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Forensic Files (HD) - Season 13, Episode 38 - Cold Feet - Full Episode

March 05, 2021 / 21:15

This episode covers the unsolved murder of convenience store employee Julie Estes, the investigation into her death, and the eventual identification of her killer, James Ellman.

Julie Estes, a 21-year-old working the late shift at a convenience store in Jacksonville, Florida, went missing after an argument with her husband, Rod Estes. Her body was discovered in the woods, and her husband was initially cleared as a suspect.

Investigators faced challenges due to a lack of forensic evidence and leads. They connected Julie's case to other crimes in the area, including the assault of another convenience store employee, Carla Nobles, by James Ellman.

Years later, advancements in DNA testing led to the identification of Ellman's DNA on Julie's clothing, linking him to her murder. He was serving time for a similar crime when the evidence was found.

Ellman ultimately pleaded no contest to Julie's rape and murder, receiving a life sentence without parole. The episode emphasizes the importance of treating every case seriously and the impact of forensic science in solving cold cases.

TL;DR

Julie Estes' murder remained unsolved for years until DNA evidence linked James Ellman to the crime, leading to his conviction.

Episode

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up next
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the murder of a convenience store
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employee goes
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unsolved for years the case always
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bugged me we wanted to find the clown
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that did that
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police couldn't understand why the
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victim's husband didn't report her
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missing
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every time i hear them i didn't call it
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in because we had an argument
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i always wondered how can anyone believe
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this could new forensic testing solve
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a 20 year old case you got to treat
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every
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single case like it's the crime of the
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century
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when rod and julie este started their
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life together in jacksonville florida
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as husband and wife they had to figure
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out like most couples
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how to support themselves rod drove a
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truck for a plastics company
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but the only job 21 year old julie could
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find
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was working the late shift at a
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convenience store
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near their home she had graduated from
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high school
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but she was a recent transplant to the
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jacksonville area
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and needed that job to put food on her
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table convenience stores and gas
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stations were really the only things at
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night that were open that
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people would rob i imagine sitting in
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that convenience store without any kind
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of modern day surveillance
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or protection or panic button that
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she must have been fearful julie
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normally worked afternoons and evenings
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and closed the store
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at 11 pm but one night
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a customer noticed the store was closed
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at 10 30
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a half hour earlier than the closing
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time posted on the door
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police were asked to check it out we
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shined our lights in the windows
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there was absolutely no signs of foul
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play nothing was disrupted
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nothing was overturned it just looked
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like somebody left the store
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so we went back to work and went about
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our normal shift
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the next morning the daytime clerk
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opened the store
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and discovered it had been robbed the
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floor safe had been open and appeared to
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be empty
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and and that the power appeared to have
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been cut off the night before
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according to the owners around 500
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was missing from the safe
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police tried to find julie but she
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wasn't home
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surprisingly julie's husband said she
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never came home from work and he
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admitted
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he hadn't reported her missing he told
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me at that time that
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they had had a small argument before she
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left for work
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and i'm like well you didn't call the
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police when she didn't come home for
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you know eight hours every time i hear
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that story of somebody
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saying well i didn't call it in because
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we had an argument i always wondered
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how can anyone believe this later that
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morning
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four miles from the convenience store
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police found julie's car
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in the woods stuck in mud the key was
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still in the ignition
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one of our helicopters spotted blue
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camaro not a long distance away but in a
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wooded area that's known for
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vehicles dumped or parked or whatever
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out there
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they saw what they perceived to be drag
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marks leading away from the vehicle
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and then they followed the drag marks
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a few hundred feet from the car under
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some cardboard
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was julie's body julie's body was found
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with her arms tied
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behind her back with her very own
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shoelaces
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her shirt was pulled up with her breasts
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exposed her pants and panties were
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pulled down to her socks
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the details of the crime just really go
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right through you
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they make you realize how
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you know how much she really went
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through
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there was a 21 year old woman who on one
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hand wore a high school class ring
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on the other one her wedding ring
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julie's husband said he had an alibi
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one police had heard dozens of times
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over the years
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rod estes had explained that he was by
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himself
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all evening had watched a football game
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and had fallen asleep
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and no one was with him all night not
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the best alibi in the world if a
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policeman thinks you might be
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responsible for your wife's
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disappearance but
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that's all he had and investigators
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had another problem they suspected
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julie had been murdered elsewhere
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as investigators search for julieste's
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killer
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they began by looking for clues inside
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her car which was found stuck in mud in
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the woods near her body
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and the evidence told a story
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julie herself was a tall girl she was
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approximately five
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eight five nine the seat had been moved
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all the way up as if a shorter person
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had been driving it
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and so it was apparent that someone
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other than julie had been the last
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person to drive that car
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and in fact that that person probably
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was shorter
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and they also found blood drops in the
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trunk
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tests showed it was the same blood type
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as julie's
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an indication she was injured
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elsewhere placed in the trunk then
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driven to the woods initially they
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weren't sure
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whether that was the scene of the murder
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or that was simply a dump site that type
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of development makes
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investigation that much more difficult
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because now you've got two crime scenes
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to worry about
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unfortunately there were no foreign
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fingerprints found on
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or in the car and investigators found
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no usable footprints in the mud and dirt
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julie's purse was discovered at the
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scene with no money inside
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the convenience store's money bag was
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there but it too
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was empty julie's killer
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had removed the laces from her shoes to
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tie her hands
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but her shoes were missing julie's shoes
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were distinctive
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even back in 1985 because they were
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purple
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the next day investigators got a
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potential lead
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police got a call from a man who had
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been kind of scrounging around behind
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another convenience store
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when he came upon a purple pair of shoes
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the purple shoes were almost certainly
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julie's
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the laces were missing a bowling
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bag and some receipts with julie's name
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left no doubt the items were hers
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the site was just a half mile from the
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convenience store where julie
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was last seen alive we found evidence
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that
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things were taken out of the trunk of
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her car she was
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probably forced into the trunk then
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she was driven five or six miles away
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from there
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where her body was found normally
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the evidentiary value of the items would
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be significant
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but not this time the civilian
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that had found those items had at first
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taken them home
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this meant all the evidence at what may
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have been
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the murder site was compromised
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somebody's been there moving things
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around and it just makes the
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investigation a lot more difficult there
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was no physical evidence that
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at that particular time that could
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identify a killer
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in the meantime it didn't take long for
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investigators to eliminate julie's
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husband
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as a suspect when he was perfectly
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willing to take a polygraph examination
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kept in contact
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with the officers trying to work this
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case i think all suspicion was erased
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but julie's autopsy did provide some
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important information about
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the killer the medical examiner found
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evidence of sexual assault
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a rape test kit recovered biological
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evidence presumably
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of the perpetrator unfortunately dna
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testing wasn't yet available
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crimes in 1985 were a lot harder to
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solve just based on technology
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they're just certain things that we
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could yield dna profiles from today
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you wouldn't be able to get back then as
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the weeks went by
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and the number of leads started to
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dwindle
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investigators continued to search for
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julie's killer
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knowing full well they had no forensic
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evidence to identify him
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but it didn't stop them from trying
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at this particular time when this
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incident occurred
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some weird things were happening in that
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area seven months before
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julie's murder the body of a missing
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15-year-old girl
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was discovered just three miles away
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her body was so badly decomposed
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the cause of death couldn't be
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determined
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and two months before julie's murder a
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ten-year-old girl was found
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dead hanging in a tree in the woods
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just two miles from julie's convenience
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store
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since these crimes happened within a
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radius of only
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three miles investigators had a hunch
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they might be connected we really wanted
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to find the
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clown that did that
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investigators wondered whether
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julieste's murder might be connected to
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several
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other crimes committed in the area
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unfortunately investigators had no
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evidence to link them
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right now by today's standard physical
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evidence is one of your
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your top factors in reviewing a case
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it's very significant very important
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they make the case
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with no leads no evidence and no
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suspects the trail of juliet's killer
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turned cold
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julie's family started to believe her
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murder would never be solved
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after a couple of years i just gave up i
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said well
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we're up here and they're down there and
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you know
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nobody cares
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the case always bugged me you know
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she went missing on my watch
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and it bugged me i mean every time i
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drove by that store i thought of her
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and it bugged me after a few years
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patrolman frank mccasey was promoted to
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chief of detectives
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with the power to recommend cases to the
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cold case unit
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mccasey had always had a strong desire
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to solve this case this is a case that
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had stuck with him and stuck in his
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mind through his whole career so when
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the cold case unit got involved
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they broadened their search they looked
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at every sexually motivated crime in the
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region
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and got a break just two months after
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julius d's murder 30 miles away in
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another jurisdiction
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there had been another convenience store
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crime
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almost identical to julie's except
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in this case the victim survived
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a 19 year old convenience store worker
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carla
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nobles had just closed the store and
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given a ride to a young man she met
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in the parking lot
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she voluntarily let him in the car
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having no idea what he was capable of
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she did a quick drive to the post office
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where he said he wanted to go
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before they got there the man pulled a
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knife
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forced her to drive to an isolated field
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and sexually assaulted her
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he then forced her to drive away she
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was sure he was going to kill her
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because she could identify him
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but then she saw the only chance to
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escape
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a police officer directing traffic
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what are you doing
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she just literally tries to run up there
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and get the officer's attention
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practically hitting the officer
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when he got to the car the abductor had
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a
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knife to carla's throat and so he pulled
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his revolver
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and the abductor dropped the knife the
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man was identified
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as james ellman he was convicted for the
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crime
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and was currently serving a 22-year
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sentence
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in a nearby prison and cold case
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investigators learned another
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startling coincidence ellman had a close
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connection to the ten-year-old girl
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found hanging in the tree
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near julie's store two months before
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julie's murder
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the ten-year-old was a half-sister of
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elman
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investigators now wanted to test the
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biological evidence collected
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from julie's rape test kit to see
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whether james ellmann
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was her killer but there was a risk
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the test would consume all of the
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evidence
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unfortunately sometimes you have to make
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a choice you might have to run the
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entire bit of sample
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but at the time you're thinking this is
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the best technology available
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investigators decided the gamble was
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worth it they consumed
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all of the semen that was contained in
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those slides trying to get results
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results that unfortunately never showed
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who the killer was
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this was a devastating setback it's just
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shocking it feels like you're hit with a
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ton of bricks then you've got to start
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over it's like going
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starting from scratch again but
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investigators
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refused to give up ellman has a rough
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history
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and people around james ellen tend to
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die
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unfortunately if elman was
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julie's killer there was no longer
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any dna to prove it
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they used up all the evidence and and
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found nothing
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uh that that brought them any closer to
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a suspect
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after years of searching for julie
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este's killer
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investigators were convinced they found
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him
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he was serving time in prison for a
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similar crime committed
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30 miles away
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his name was james ellman
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ellman was the worst of the worst we
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talk about he's the poster child of
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eddie social
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it's a clue when the public defenders
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are afraid of him
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when the doctors are afraid of him when
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the people at the
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medical treatment facility are afraid of
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him
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but investigators wanted to be sure
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ellman
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was responsible for julie este's murder
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why because if he wasn't
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julie's killer was still on the loose
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no it's not always a hollywood ending
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sometimes you don't get any results
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cases still go unsolved so 16 years
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after julie's murder
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the jacksonville police department sent
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julie's clothes to the u.s army crime
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lab in forest park georgia
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one of the most sophisticated labs
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available
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the items evidence included socks and
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her shirt
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and jeans as well as other items from
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her sexual assault kit
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which included like fingernail scrapings
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and other swabs
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scientists there were discouraged all
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but
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one of the items had been analyzed and
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tested
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the socks had never been tested probably
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because nobody expected to find anything
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useful
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on them the idea that forensic evidence
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could
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have transferred onto julie's socks
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was remote nevertheless
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analyst brian higgins examined the socks
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with light sources that cause
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genetic material to fluoresce i was kind
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of like wow
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you know could these be actually semen
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stains i was kind of surprised actually
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because
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it's not one of the more common places
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we would find semen
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the areas were removed then analyzed
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with the new dna test that needed
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only a very small amount of genetic
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material
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when dna first started out you needed a
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lot of dna and
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they needed to be high quality dna
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nowadays it can be very degraded
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and we could have very limited
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quantities and still yield good results
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miraculously the test generated a
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mixture of
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two dna profiles one
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female and one male
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one was julie's dna the other
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was the dna of the killer they were
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able to identify that dna profile as the
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exact match
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to james ellman we were all ecstatic i
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mean it was
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unbelievable feeling and you know that's
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that's the reward of cold case when you
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have that piece that you never had
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before
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and you're able just to put that one
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thing together and you know you've got
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the entire case
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investigators confronted elman in prison
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with the evidence
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and i'm telling you that your dna is in
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the murder scene of this
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this this this murdered girl
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i'm telling you i wasn't there i don't
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know anything about this girl
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if you're not there how do you how does
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jen how does james helman seem to get in
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to get in the damn crime scene
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is a monster that now sits behind bars
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i always knew that there was going to be
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a day
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that they were going to say we got it
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this case is solved based on the dna
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evidence prosecutors believe james
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ellman was probably walking by the
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convenience store where julie estes
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worked
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around 10 30 and noticed there were no
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customers inside
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he shut off the store's electricity
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held juliet knife point forced her to
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open the safe
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then he made her drive a half mile away
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to an area
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behind an unoccupied store he used her
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shoelaces to tie her wrists
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then raped and killed her
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he removed items from julie's trunk to
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make room for her body
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elman drove to the woods where he hid
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her body under some
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cardboard the biological evidence from
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the attack
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was embedded in her cotton socks
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elman probably wanted to keep julie's
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car
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but it got stuck in the mud and he had
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to escape on foot
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authorities had plenty of suspicion but
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no evidence to charge element with his
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half-sister's murder
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but after 17 years there was plenty of
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dna evidence to charge him with julie
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estes rape
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and murder it just was unbelievable
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that it would be the socks that would
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hold the true identity
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of her killer and how would you want me
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to say
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what you really want me to say i guess i
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just asked for an explanation
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i mean you know how forensics works i
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can't give it to you
00:20:10
well the only reasonable explanation is
00:20:12
that you're involved in the murder
00:20:13
no that's not true
00:20:17
that's not true
00:20:20
that's definitely not true faced with a
00:20:24
possible
00:20:24
death penalty ellman decided to plead no
00:20:28
contest to julie este's rape
00:20:30
and murder in return he was sentenced to
00:20:34
life in prison
00:20:35
with no possibility of parole the lesson
00:20:38
for criminals would be no matter how
00:20:40
long ago you did
00:20:41
the crime the forensic has a capability
00:20:43
of solving it
00:20:44
if it wasn't for forensics in this case
00:20:47
i
00:20:48
you know the dna and everything i i
00:20:50
don't think that they would ever solve
00:20:52
it
00:20:53
we always talked about if we ever got
00:20:55
out we were just going to have to we'd
00:20:56
be counting bodies
00:20:58
he was we believed he was that bad you
00:21:00
got to treat
00:21:01
every single case like it's the crime of
00:21:03
the century
00:21:05
and what i mean by that is you got to
00:21:06
make sure that you you don't take
00:21:08
any evidence for granted

Badges

This episode stands out for the following:

  • 90
    Most heartbreaking
  • 85
    Biggest twist
  • 80
    Most shocking
  • 80
    Most unpredictable

Episode Highlights

  • The Unsolved Murder of Julie Estes
    Julie Estes, a convenience store employee, went missing and was later found murdered. Her case remained unsolved for years until new forensic testing provided crucial evidence.
    “The case always bugged me, you know?”
    @ 10m 19s
    March 05, 2021
  • Breakthrough in Cold Case
    After years of investigation, DNA evidence linked James Ellman to the murder of Julie Estes, finally bringing closure to the case.
    “It just was unbelievable that it would be the socks that would hold the true identity of her killer.”
    @ 19m 54s
    March 05, 2021

Episode Quotes

  • The case always bugged me, you know?
    Forensic Files (HD) - Season 13, Episode 38 - Cold Feet - Full Episode
  • You got to treat every single case like it's the crime of the century.
    Forensic Files (HD) - Season 13, Episode 38 - Cold Feet - Full Episode

Key Moments

  • Unsolved Case00:08
  • Missing Person00:17
  • Discovery of Body03:30
  • DNA Breakthrough16:50
  • Justice Served20:35

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