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Forensic Files - Season 10, Episode 15 - Tight-Fitting Genes - Full Episode

January 14, 2022 / 21:42

This episode covers the case of Pam Kinamore, a murder victim in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and the groundbreaking DNA technology that helped identify her killer. It discusses the investigation into her disappearance, the discovery of her body, and the connection to a serial killer who targeted multiple women in the area.

Pam Kinamore was reported missing by her husband, Byron, in July 2002. Her body was later found in marshland, and forensic evidence revealed she had been stabbed and sexually assaulted. The investigation initially focused on a white male suspect, based on eyewitness accounts.

The episode highlights the challenges faced by investigators, including the difficulty of identifying the killer among thousands of white pickup trucks registered in Baton Rouge. It also details the violent murders of other victims, including Charlotte Murray Pace and Gina Greene, who were linked to the same perpetrator.

Dr. Tony Frudakis introduced a new DNA testing method that could determine the physical characteristics of the killer. This technology revealed that the killer was not a white male, as previously thought, but rather a black male, Derek Todd Lee, who was later arrested and convicted.

The episode concludes with a discussion on the implications of this case for forensic science and the importance of accurate profiling in criminal investigations.

TL;DR

Pam Kinamore's murder led to groundbreaking DNA technology identifying her killer, Derek Todd Lee, challenging initial profiling assumptions.

Episode

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at times a perpetrator's dna
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is the only clue at a murder scene
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but what happens when you don't have a
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suspect to compare it to
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this case made forensic history when
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scientists saw in these genes literally
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the killer's physical description
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in the 1600s baton rouge and louisiana
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got its name from french settlers it
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means red stick and referred to the pole
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marking the hunting area of local indian
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tribes
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to this day baton rouge is one of the
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most racially diverse cities in the
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country
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pam kinamore knew the town's history
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well by birth and by profession
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pam operated an antique store
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pam loved life
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every day
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she couldn't wait to do all the things
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that she wanted to do she was fun she
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was exuberant she was enthused
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she was intelligent
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shortly before midnight on a friday in
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july 2002
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pam's husband byron called police to
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report his wife missing
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he said when he got home
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the front door was wide open
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his wife's keys were there
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but pam was gone
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strangely
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the bathtub was full of water
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it looked like she had been taking a
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bath and also there was there was some
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blood on
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a rug under the bed and the bedroom
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that hadn't been there before
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forensic testing revealed the blood on
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the carpet was pam's
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it appeared that she left her keys in
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the door inadvertently and an intruder
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walked in while pam was in the bathtub
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the couple's son was sleeping overnight
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at a friend's house and couldn't shed
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any light on what had happened
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investigators also had to consider
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whether pam had simply
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run off
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but her mother refused even to consider
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that possibility
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i told him i said i'm sure your next
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thought is she might have had a
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boyfriend
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i said i'd give you my word of honor if
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she had a boyfriend
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i would have known
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and that would be the first name i would
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give you
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pam never looked at another man byron
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was
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her sweetheart
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pam's family posted missing posters and
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billboards all over the city and offered
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a 75 000 reward for information as to
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her whereabouts
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for four days the search continued
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pam's body was discovered in the
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marshland under the whiskey bay bridge
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about 60 miles from her home
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there was a telephone cord found near
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her body
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it's amazing that it was found it was
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found by some surveyors
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she'd just been dumped at whiskey bay
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the coroner's office
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took her into custody
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the medical examiner discovered pam had
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been stabbed to death
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she had also
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been sexually assaulted
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pam
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was a beautiful young woman and uh
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she had a lot of admirers and i thought
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well you know maybe somebody just had a
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crush on her
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and took her off and i guess we wanted
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hope and i never dreamed that she was
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murdered
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do you know what it's like
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to know you'll never have any more
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memories
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that hold us happy times are gone
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forever
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so
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that's what it's like to lose your job
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the medical examiner determined that pam
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had been killed on the night she
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disappeared
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pam's husband byron had an alibi
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and it was corroborated by others so he
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wasn't considered a suspect
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but police got a tip from a potential
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eyewitness
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he thought he saw pam slumped forward in
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a white pickup truck on the night she
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went missing just a mile from where the
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body was discovered
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this is a very desolate piece of
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interstate very dark not many vehicles
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at all we get off this exit ramp it
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really leads to nowhere where her body
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was found
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the witness described the driver as a
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young white male
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police began to look for a white male in
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a white truck as the investigation went
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on they
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they were pretty focused on a white male
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and a white truck
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unfortunately there were 35 000 white
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pickup trucks registered in the baton
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rouge area
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it's like a swarming army of white
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pickup trucks in louisiana if you put
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them in to end it would probably
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circumvent the world
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at pam kinnamore's autopsy
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pathologists found biological evidence
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that she had been sexually assaulted
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and it also contained the dna profile of
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her killer
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naturally investigators wanted to know
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if this perpetrator had been apprehended
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before
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we had already taken his dna profile
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and searched it into the fbi's codis
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database which was a national database
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of
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offenders as well as evidence from other
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cases and we knew then that at that
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point that he had not been linked
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to
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any other crimes
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but this dna evidence did tell police
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something important
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the same man who killed pam kinamore
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killed two other women
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several months earlier
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i had never had experience with a serial
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killer you know other than seeing it tv
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shows so all of a sudden this was
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something that baton rouge hadn't hadn't
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dealt with before and i hadn't dealt
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with before
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two months earlier charlotte murray pace
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a graduate student at louisiana state
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university had been sexually assaulted
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and killed in her apartment she was
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stabbed
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81 times her throat was cut
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she was missing part of her ear it was
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it was very violent horrible attack
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all the people all the women in the
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world
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he picked
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murray
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why
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i'd give anything to know why and i
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don't know if you can know why
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because i wonder if
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he could articulate why if he knows why
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himself
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like pam kinamore's case
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there were no signs of forced entry this
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person was absolutely vicious this
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person was absolutely the worst type of
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human being you ever want to encounter
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also in that same neighborhood
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gina greene a nurse was sexually
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assaulted and murdered in her home
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in all three cases
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the common thread was the telephone
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either the killer took the victim's
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telephone or
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used the cords to restrain his victim
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this led to speculation
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the killer asked his victims for
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assistance
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everything he touched he took with him
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those were his trophies if it didn't
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take much for him after he killed it to
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wipe down the doorknob he knew
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everything he touched
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when residents of baton rouge learned a
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serial killer was on the loose they took
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every possible precaution
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at night the streets were all but empty
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but it wasn't enough
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i can tell you the worst thing that i
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can imagine
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could happen in fact happen
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several months later the killer struck
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again
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twenty-three-year-old danae kalam
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never returned home from visiting her
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mother's grave
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her body was discovered 26 miles away
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from the cemetery she was sexually
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assaulted and beaten to death
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a witness reported seeing a white male
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in a white pickup truck near the
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cemetery
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just like pam kinamore's case
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and the killer
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wasn't through
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the body of 26 year old carrie yoder a
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doctoral student at lsu was found near
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the whiskey bay bridge not far from
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where pam kinamore's body was discovered
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dna tests confirmed
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the same man sexually assaulted and
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presumably killed
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all five women he was very intelligent i
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think he was doing a lot of
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as i call it surveillance work he was
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stalking his victims he knew their
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movements methods of movement
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and he was gonna be tough to catch
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desperate for a lead
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police called the fbi in washington d.c
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and asked for a criminal investigative
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analysis of the crimes we thought this
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was more someone who followed women who
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watched women from afar and when he
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interacted with women
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it would be shortly into that
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interaction before they felt
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uncomfortable with him
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the fbi predicted the killer was
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anti-social and earned a below average
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income
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the fbi profile we had folks come in and
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that was the whole gist that we were
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looking for a white male somewhere 20s
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and 30s single white male
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although 90 percent of all serial
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killers are white
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the fbi says they made no prediction
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about the race of the baton rouge serial
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killer despite the perceptions of local
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officials and information carried in the
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media
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i know that there's been some confusion
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about that i know what was written and i
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know it was in the paper and it just
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simply wasn't there
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nevertheless
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the local police obtained dna samples
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from over 1 000 men most of them white
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between the ages of 20 and 40 most had a
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history of criminal activity
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i just felt like
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they needed to find that killer we were
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going to have more women killed
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but not one of them was a match
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that's when molecular biologist dr tony
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frudakis called investigators with a
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warning that eyewitnesses and behavioral
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profiles are not always right
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that type of information is oftentimes
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faulty wrong sometimes people lie
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sometimes they're just flat out mistaken
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so dr frudakis made police an offer he
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said he'd perform a brand new dna test
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and promised he could identify the
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killer's physical characteristics
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to be honest with you i didn't really
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believe i thought right off the bat this
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guy must be some quack how can he do
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this but he
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purported that he can determine the race
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of folks from dna and i say there's no
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way in the world he can do that this new
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test called dna witness
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ascertains the exact ancestry of an
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individual based on information in their
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dna
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it's rooted in the fact that all humans
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are descended from a common gene pool
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so instead of measuring
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the pigmentation genes that control
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pigmentation of the skin
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we can make an indirect inference about
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your skin shade through a very precise
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knowledge of your ancestral background
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so the baton rouge police gave dr
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fardakas the go-ahead
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the results made forensic history and
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changed the course of the investigation
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i've never met the guy but i'll tell you
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he's onto something
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based on statements from two
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eyewitnesses baton rouge police were
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searching for a white male driving a
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white pickup truck in connection with
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five unsolved murders
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with little to lose
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investigators joined forces with the
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molecular biologist to perform a new
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test on the killer's dna
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it's brand new technology a lot of these
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people are unaware of what it can do we
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have to go into the human genome and
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screen through large numbers of people
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in order to find these
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positions of dna so that we can harness
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their power and use them for the
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purposes we're using them
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to test dr frodakis's claims
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investigators sent him 20 dna samples
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and asked him to identify the race of
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each one
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he nailed him to a t on everybody even
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to the percentages of what black white
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indian whatever you had in him so he was
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able to do it
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when he passed that test
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dr frudakis went to work on the killer's
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dna
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the results
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the dna test showed the killer was not a
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caucasian
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the crime scene dna sample corresponded
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to an individual
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that was 85 percent sub-saharan african
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and 15 native american
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at first police couldn't believe it
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i remember the phone line just going
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silent for a few minutes i guess they
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had to digest it kind of threw you off
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because you know
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traditionally a serial killer is usually
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a white male
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and when it became a black male it just
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just it threw everybody out police now
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realized the so-called eyewitnesses were
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wrong
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and they realized something else
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around the same time of pam kinnimore's
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murder about 60 miles outside of baton
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rouge
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someone knocked on the front door of a
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woman named diane alexander
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and asked to use the phone
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when her back was turned the man ripped
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the phone cord from the wall and tried
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to strangle her
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as she fought for her life her son came
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home unexpectedly the attacker ran away
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still carrying the telephone cord
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the phone cord was actually already
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sticking out of his vehicle
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and her son was able to describe the
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vehicle very well and describe the phone
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cord sticking out of it
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and police remembered finding similar
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telephone cord near pam kinamore's body
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was it possible that the killer
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took diane alexander's telephone cord
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with him when he killed
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pam kinamore
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to find out
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forensic experts compared the telephone
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cord found with pam kinamore's body to
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the ripped piece of cord from diane
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alexander's home by performing a
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fracture match comparison
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although plastic stretches when pulled
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the ends usually remain intact
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they actually took the remaining cord
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from diane alexander's house and were
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able to match it to the cord that they
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found at pam kennamore's dump site
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in a police lineup diane alexander
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identified her attacker as 34 year old
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derek todd lee he had previous arrests
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for burglary stalking women and peeking
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into their homes
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if lee
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was the baton rouge serial killer
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diane alexander was fortunate to be
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alive
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derek todd lee
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a manual laborer married with two
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children was identified by diane
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alexander in a police lineup as the man
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who assaulted her in her home
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but he denied he was the baton rouge
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serial killer
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lee's dna sample was sent immediately to
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the forensics lab for testing
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it matched the biological samples from
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all five victims
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just a sense of relief joy come over me
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you know and it's like
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i had to smile i said
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we got him
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derek todd lee was arrested and charged
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with first degree murder
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the first thing i would tell him is he's
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a coward
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he picked on women that he took
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advantage of their good nature
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after his arrest
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investigators learned that lee's dna
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matched skin cells under the fingernails
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of yet another murder victim an lsu
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student 21 year old geralyn de soto
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prosecutors believe lee followed his
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victims so he knew when they would be
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home alone
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he would knock on the door
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asked to use their phone
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and once inside
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overpower them i don't know how he
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picked him out he hasn't talked we do
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know that
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a black male was spotted
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sort of hanging out in a couple of the
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neighborhoods but we don't know for sure
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that it was him and we like i said we
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haven't had the benefit of
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his
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you know if he's telling us what his
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thoughts were
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fortunately for investigators
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he left crucial dna evidence behind
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at lee's trial the sole survivor diane
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alexander identified lee
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as the man who tried to kill her
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and dna from perspiration found on ms
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alexander's blouse after the attack
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matched lee's dna profile
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forensic proof he was the perpetrator
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this is the real deal and now this lady
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has come to you and face you
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it pointed you out
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it was devastating
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derek todd lee was convicted of first
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degree murder
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and was sentenced to death
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the death penalty is too good for him
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they should execute him a little bit at
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a time
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i mean to do you know rape was not
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enough murder was not enough to corner
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called it
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these murders he said
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aren't overkill
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some of the victims families are angry
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that police relied so heavily on the
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eyewitness accounts of a white male in a
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white pickup truck and the fact that
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most serial killers tend to be white
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the profile itself was of course wrong
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it was erroneous
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but it was also accepted by the task
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force as
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it was given the force of fact
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when what it is is an educated guess i
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think they were getting tons of tips
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from every direction it wasn't you know
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they were getting thousands of tips so i
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certainly wouldn't say that you know
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they i think they did the best that they
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could and they worked very hard
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in this case dr tony frudakis made
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scientific history
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it was the first time this biogeographic
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testing was ever used in a criminal case
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the technology now has a 99 accuracy
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rate and new tests can even predict eye
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color with 92 percent accuracy
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if it can tell you the race it might be
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able to tell you exactly who you're
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looking for
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but if it tells you the name and the
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address and phone number it's time for
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me to leave this place it's just dna is
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too good then
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this new test also shows the limitations
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of behavioral profiles
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and the fallibility of so-called
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eyewitnesses
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i don't think it's too
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far out there to say that
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in the future
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there probably will be much less crime
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than there is today because people are
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going to realize
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that when they commit that rape
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or they commit that murder they might as
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well take their driver's license out of
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their wallet
00:20:40
just toss it right there on the ground
00:20:42
because they're going to get that
00:20:43
information anyway if people are going
00:20:44
to commit violent crimes they need to be
00:20:46
accountable and we need to take whatever
00:20:48
means is necessary
00:20:50
to hold them accountable and that just
00:20:52
makes the police the job of a police
00:20:54
officer so easy i think we need to take
00:20:56
advantage of science
00:20:58
as much as we can
00:21:00
when it's for valid reasons
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[Music]
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[Music]
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[Music]
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you

Badges

This episode stands out for the following:

  • 85
    Biggest twist
  • 80
    Most shocking
  • 80
    Best concept / idea
  • 80
    Most unpredictable

Episode Highlights

  • Pam Kinamore's Disappearance
    Pam Kinamore goes missing under mysterious circumstances, leading to a frantic search.
    “Pam loved life every day.”
    @ 01m 24s
    January 14, 2022
  • Discovery of Pam's Body
    After days of searching, Pam's body is found in marshland, revealing a tragic fate.
    “Do you know what it’s like to know you’ll never have any more memories?”
    @ 04m 07s
    January 14, 2022
  • DNA Breakthrough
    Forensic scientists use groundbreaking DNA testing to identify the killer's characteristics.
    “The results made forensic history and changed the course of the investigation.”
    @ 12m 19s
    January 14, 2022
  • Arrest of Derek Todd Lee
    Derek Todd Lee is arrested and identified as the serial killer linked to multiple murders.
    “I had to smile, I said, we got him.”
    @ 16m 40s
    January 14, 2022
  • Trial and Conviction
    Derek Todd Lee is convicted of first-degree murder and sentenced to death.
    “The death penalty is too good for him.”
    @ 18m 42s
    January 14, 2022

Episode Quotes

  • Pam loved life every day.
    Forensic Files - Season 10, Episode 15 - Tight-Fitting Genes - Full Episode
  • Do you know what it’s like to know you’ll never have any more memories?
    Forensic Files - Season 10, Episode 15 - Tight-Fitting Genes - Full Episode
  • I had to smile, I said, we got him.
    Forensic Files - Season 10, Episode 15 - Tight-Fitting Genes - Full Episode
  • The death penalty is too good for him.
    Forensic Files - Season 10, Episode 15 - Tight-Fitting Genes - Full Episode

Key Moments

  • Pam's Vibrance01:24
  • Mysterious Disappearance01:44
  • Body Found03:20
  • DNA Breakthrough12:19
  • Killer Arrested16:46
  • Justice Served18:33

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