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Trail of a Killer | Forensic Files | S14 E15 | FULL EPISODE

March 13, 2021 / 21:15

This episode covers the murder of Kathy Lauric in Concord, California, the investigation that followed, and the eventual identification of her killer, Robert Frazier.

Kathy Lauric was murdered during her lunch break while walking on a jogging trail. After a call with her husband, she was attacked, and her body was found by police shortly after. The murder weapon was identified as a broken fence post.

Investigators traced Kathy's cell phone to Juan Sanchez, who claimed to have found it. However, he was cleared after passing a voice stress test. Witnesses provided descriptions of a suspicious man near the crime scene, leading to a composite sketch.

Mark Fisher, a potential suspect, committed suicide before he could be arrested. Although circumstantial evidence pointed to him, DNA tests did not match. The investigation continued, leading to Robert Frazier, who was identified through cigarette butts found at the scene.

Frazier's DNA was linked to the murder weapon and Kathy's rape kit. He was arrested in Indiana, where he revealed knowledge only the killer would know. Frazier was ultimately tried and convicted of first-degree murder and rape, receiving a death sentence.

TL;DR

Kathy Lauric was murdered in Concord, California; Robert Frazier was identified and convicted through DNA evidence.

Episode

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[Music]
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up next
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a woman is murdered in broad daylight
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this is the monster jumping out of the
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bushes and grabbing you and killing you
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cell phone records and search dogs
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provided some leaves
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they were able to track a scent trail to
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a residential area that was very close
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to the canal trail
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but if not for some crafty police work
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and a chance encounter the entire
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investigation could have gone up in
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smoke
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we have an individual that's still out
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talking about who can do this again
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i don't know how much scarier can get
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during her lunch break in concord
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california
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kathy loreck went for a walk as she
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often did along a jogging trail near her
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office
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that was something that she just kind of
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did on her own as her own kind of a
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meditation throughout the day
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i know that sometimes she would use that
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opportunity to uh you know make some
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personal phone calls
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kathy was an executive secretary married
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with children
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on this day she spoke with her husband
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who was in europe
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on a business trip
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her husband reported that suddenly
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she made a loud uh a groan or a gasp
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and the phone went dead kathy's husband
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knew immediately something was wrong
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and called her co-workers and asked them
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to look for her
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they couldn't find her they came back
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and
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they called the police and the police
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got there within minutes
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about 20 minutes later a police officer
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saw what looked like
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streaks of blood the blood was like
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somebody taken a paint brush
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with red paint and simply drawn lines on
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the ground
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like you see somebody just dripping
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paint and drying with a paintbrush on a
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concrete
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the officer followed the blood trail
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down an embankment
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to a heavily wooded area where he found
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kathy lauric barely alive in a pool of
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blood
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he recognized that with the way her
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clothes were
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arranged and disheveled that she'd most
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likely been sexually assaulted
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and that she needed immediate medical
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attention
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kathy was rushed to the hospital but she
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died on route
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kathy had several major lacerations on
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her head
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what we believe to be the weapon was
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found um near kathy's body
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the weapon was a fence post was
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approximately two to two and a half feet
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long from what i leave
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detective finney came onto the phone and
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told me that
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my mom had died
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next thing i remember i kind of lost
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control
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and i think i yelled at uh
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detective finney for a little bit
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although
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kathy was using her cell phone when the
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attack occurred
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investigators couldn't find it anywhere
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in the area near her body
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when police checked her cell phone
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records they discovered
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someone had used her cell phone after
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her murder
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one of the numbers called when a person
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told us that a subject
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juan sanchez had called them
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investigators tracked 23-year-old juan
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sanchez to his residence
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and there they found kathy's cell phone
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in his possession but sanchez claimed
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he found the phone on the jogging path
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he explained to us that he was riding
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his
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bike on the canal trail and while he was
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riding his bike he found the cell phone
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he decided to use it for his personal
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use sanchez
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showed police exactly where he found the
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phone
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remarkably it was just 50 feet from
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kathy's body
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there was only one individual in our
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minds who could have had that cell phone
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and that would have been the individual
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who attacked kathy
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but sanchez denied he was the killer and
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denied seeing the blood on the trail
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near the cell phone
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investigators knew right away this would
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not be
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a routine murder investigation
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this was shocking we're talking about a
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woman close to her office
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going for a walk on a trail frequented
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by many people in broad daylight
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and have this kind of thing happen to
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her it would be like being struck by
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lightning
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family friends and even police were
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stunned
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by the sheer audacity of kathy lauric's
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murder
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i was shocked that something like that
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happened because
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i've never seen any sign of anything
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like this going on you know
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i still want to walk you know i don't
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want to be intimidated to stop and
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change
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my routine for this attack to occur on a
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beautiful sunny day
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with a lot of people who realistically
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could have been around
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the incident at the time it occurred
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it's pretty brazen
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and you know pretty bold on the part of
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the suspect
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an encampment of several dozen homeless
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people
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just a quarter mile from the trail meant
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a random attack
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was a real possibility there'd been
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concerns about
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transients and homeless people on that
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trail previously
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and a lot of folks felt it just wasn't
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safe to go out on that trail
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but that wasn't the only possibility
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there are numerous access and exit
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points to this canal trail
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either by the public roadways by
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individuals using adjacent fields
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and access gaze
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the murder weapon was a broken piece of
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metal fencing
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this perpetrator actually broke off a
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piece of metal
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fence post and it appears that they
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waited for her to
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return from her walk and then dragged
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her off the trail
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there was blood but no prince on the
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murder weapon
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kathy's autopsy confirmed that she'd
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been
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sexually assaulted the dna profile from
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kathy loryx rape kit didn't match any in
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the statewide dna database
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of known criminal offenders
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it didn't match juan sanchez the man who
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found kathy's cell phone either
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he appeared to be very truthful to us he
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didn't have any trouble answering our
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questions
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and he volunteered to take a voice
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stress analyzer test
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which he took and and passed it was very
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disheartening
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to find out that the cell phone didn't
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lead to any place in particular
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in a search for suspects police rounded
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up everyone who was on or near the trail
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at the time of the murder
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some were homeless people others were
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joggers and bikers
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about a half dozen of them told a story
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that was remarkably consistent
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they had seen a male standing at the
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fence line looking into the canal and
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talking about the little fishes in the
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canal
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and drawing this the attention of people
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that were walking by
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and this person seemed like they were
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out of place
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he was a white male maybe six feet tall
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maybe early 30s
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a kind of heavy set not muscular but
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maybe a little bit overweight
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brownish blonde hair and disheveled some
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of the people described him as possibly
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transcender homeless
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two of these potential witnesses were
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sent to police sketch artist
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gil zamora i asked him the question if
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you saw him again would you
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recognize him they say yes
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then i i know that i can draw the sketch
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with each witness zamora tried to induce
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a state of deep relaxation
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and then had them describe what they saw
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i asked them to kind of tell me what
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they were doing right before they met
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the person
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and then kind of go through the entire
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process of the meeting or the event
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and then up until police get involved
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eventually these two drawings emerged
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from witnesses who had never spoken with
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each other
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except for the sunglasses the sketches
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were virtually
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identical they were two independent
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witnesses
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and they did not know each other i think
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these witnesses both saw the same person
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then police got a huge break
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investigators using k-9 teams
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identified a potential lead they were
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able to track a scent trail to a
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residential area in concord
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that was very close to the the canal
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trail a background check revealed a man
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living in this neighborhood had a
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criminal history
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he also looked similar to the composite
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drawings
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his name was mark fisher he was known to
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be
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violent violent to his relatives violent
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to police officers and to other public
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officials
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witnesses in the park were shown a photo
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lineup which
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included fisher's picture at least
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three of the witnesses were positive
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that
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the photo of mr fisher was the subject
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they had seen on the trail
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but when investigators went to fisher's
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house
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they got some shocking news the police
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were met by a relative who told them
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you haven't heard my brother mr fischer
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just killed himself jumped off the
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golden gate bridge committed suicide
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mark fisher killed himself less than 24
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hours
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after kathy's murder this person now
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kills himself
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a day after this type of crime
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there are no coincidences like that you
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know it just doesn't happen in my
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experience
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it was our belief that after the assault
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that he felt remorse that he felt guilt
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and he just couldn't live with what he
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had done a search of fisher's room
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seemed to confirm his role in the murder
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we found a pair of sunglasses similar to
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the type of sunglasses
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seen in the sketch they seized some
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clothing
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that appeared to have blood stains on it
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and noticed that a newspaper
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in the house was open to an article
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about the murder
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and a picture of the suspect's sketch
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was there as well
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the circumstantial evidence clearly
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pointed to mark fisher
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as the killer but would the forensic
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evidence agree
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police were certain mark fisher was the
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man who sexually assaulted and
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murdered kathy lorick along the jogging
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trail
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police sniffer dogs tracked the killer's
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trail right to his front door
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several eyewitnesses chose his picture
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from a photo lineup
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and it appeared he committed suicide
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just as
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police were about to arrest him
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after fischer's suicide scientists took
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a dna sample in the morgue
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and compared fischer's dna profile to
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the biological evidence
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from kathy lorich's rape test kit
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shockingly it didn't match
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we strongly believe that mark fisher was
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responsible for kathy's death
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all of a sudden he's not what that means
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to us is that we have an individual
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that's still out walking about who can
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do this again
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that this individual is free it
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basically put us back to
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ground zero and we had to start over
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again with a killer still
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on the loose investigators instituted
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a dna dragnet of all the homeless men
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in the area who had a violent criminal
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history
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we began contacting everybody that used
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the trail all the transients that we
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knew
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a total of 42 dna profiles were tested
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against the killer's dna this was
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actually in fact the most reference
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samples that i had ever tested that the
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laboratory had ever tested
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but there were no hits then
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nine days after the murder investigators
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got a potential break
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a mountain biker called police to say he
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recognized the man in the composite
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sketch he'd seen him on the jogging
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trail
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on the day of cathy's murder
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hey dude he said the man asked him for a
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cigarette
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and they had a short chat although he
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didn't know his name
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mountain biker smoked one cigarette and
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this other man
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who he was talking to smoke two
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cigarettes
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investigators asked the mountain biker
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to show them
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where this happened it was within maybe
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200 yards of the crime scene
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and he pointed right to the ground and
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said those are the cigarettes that we
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were smoking
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but nine days had passed and analysts
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were skeptical about
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getting dna certainly if it's been
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sitting outside if it's been exposed to
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uv light
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or rain or mud or dirt the longer it's
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been sitting out in the
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elements the harder it would be to
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develop a dna profile
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but the cyclist did provide an important
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piece of information
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he said the man told him he worked as a
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telemarketer in nearby walnut creek
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a background check revealed there was
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only one telemarketing firm in walnut
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creek
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the manager immediately told me that
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you're looking for robert frazier
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he'd gotten into some trouble he had
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committed some robberies
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he had spent time in prison he had
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committed some very violent assaults in
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prison
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and out on the street he was
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a drifter may have spent time in the
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chicago area in indiana as well
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as well as contra costa county in
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california
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frazier's co-worker said he looked like
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the composite sketch
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however they said he'd quit his job
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around the time of kathleen lorich's
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murder
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police visited frasier's last known
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address and found
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his ex-girlfriend she said frazier left
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town and she hadn't seen him since i
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think he left town
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but frazier's girlfriend had a parting
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gift for police
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frazier's toothbrush they hoped it would
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be
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the forensic answer they were looking
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for
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police now had a suspect in the sexual
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assault and murder of kathy lorick
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robert frazier but he'd left the area
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shortly after the murder
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and they had no idea where he'd gone
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investigators had cigarette butts that
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they thought were used by frasier
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while on the jogging trail the day of
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the murder
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but they'd been exposed to the elements
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for nine days
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before police recovered them i really
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felt that if that could happen to this
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victim that could happen to anyone
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so i felt that i really wanted to do my
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best
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in working hard on this case to help
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catch this individual
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fortunately for the scientists it hadn't
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rained on the cigarette butts
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and they were able to generate a dna
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profile and compare it
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to kathy's rape test kit the person who
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had smoked the cigarettes was kathy's
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killer
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scientists then compared the dna on the
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cigarettes
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to the dna on frasier's toothbrush
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unfortunately the toothbrush actually
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contained dna from
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at least three individuals male and
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female dna
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once i was able to actually see that
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within that mixture fraser's dna was on
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there
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you know of course i was excited perhaps
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most important scientists also
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discovered
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frasier's dna from skin cells on the
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bloody fence post
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found near kathy's body finding robert's
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dna
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on that fence post which was the murder
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weapon
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was very important it showed that robert
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was the one responsible for kathy's
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death
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the dna evidence established a credible
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eyewitness
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who saw the murderer in person on the
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day of the crime at the location of the
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crime scene
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but where was robert frazier
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well you know murder investigations
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typically don't proceed in a linear
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fashion
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police subsequently entered mr frazier's
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name
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into the national criminal offender
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database known as ncic and discovered
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that he
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was being held on a criminal charge in
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the state of indiana
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he was actually arrested for some sort
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of traffic infraction
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and it was learned that he was on
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probation and that his probation officer
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was looking for him california police
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immediately flew to indiana to question
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frazier
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he seemed to be very cooperative not
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nervous at all like
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you would expect somebody in that
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circumstance he talked about being
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religious of some sort in in some sort
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of way frazier admitted
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he heard about kathy lauric's murder on
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television
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you've ever seen her picture on tv yeah
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what does she look like you remember
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but frazier slipped revealing a
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piece of information only the killer
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would know
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she had long hair it looked like it was
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brown
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i don't know how did you know she had
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freckles
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because i could see it on the tv it's
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got a 43 inch screen
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i'm wearing makeup you can see it on the
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picture
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yeah yes you can as you can
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it wasn't until investigators told
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frazier
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they found his dna on the murder weapon
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and on kathy lorich's rape test kit
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that frazier changed his story
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the only thing robert was able to come
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up with is well maybe he was down there
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in the tree line area where kathy's body
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was found
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previously and that he had urinated in
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the area and that would be the only way
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prosecutors believe kathy was walking
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along the jogging path
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talking to her husband on her cell phone
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when frazier first
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saw her
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prosecutors think frazier chose kathy as
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his victim because
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he saw no one nearby in either direction
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then he struck her with a piece
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of a metal fence post
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[Music]
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he quickly dragged her from the jogging
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trail
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down the ravine where he sexually
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assaulted her
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afterwards he struck her several more
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times in the head
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and left her for dead
00:19:49
thanks to the incredible accuracy of the
00:19:52
eyewitness accounts
00:19:54
a superb composite drawing and
00:19:57
the chance meeting with the cyclist
00:20:00
frazier left
00:20:01
plenty of forensic evidence behind
00:20:04
i still don't understand why it happened
00:20:06
there really hasn't been
00:20:08
a why he never showed any remorse
00:20:11
and that that's a real sense of
00:20:13
frustration and anger that
00:20:15
you know that this person just didn't
00:20:17
care about another human being
00:20:20
and you wonder how anybody could be that
00:20:22
way
00:20:23
robert frazier was tried and convicted
00:20:27
of first degree murder and rape
00:20:30
he was sentenced to death
00:20:33
in my opinion he's the lowest person in
00:20:36
that you can be
00:20:37
he is a
00:20:40
he doesn't deserve to breathe another
00:20:43
breath
00:20:44
in this life he doesn't
00:20:47
he took so much away from us and he
00:20:49
needs to pay
00:20:50
i think robert ward fraser for a lack of
00:20:53
a better term is a monster
00:20:55
i don't know how he became a monster and
00:20:58
frankly i
00:20:59
it doesn't matter to me how he became a
00:21:01
monster
00:21:02
and the dna is what solved this crime if
00:21:05
this crime had happened
00:21:07
30 years ago robert frazier would have
00:21:09
gotten away with it

Badges

This episode stands out for the following:

  • 85
    Most heartbreaking
  • 80
    Most shocking
  • 80
    Biggest twist
  • 75
    Most dramatic

Episode Highlights

  • The Investigation Unfolds
    Crafty police work and a chance encounter led to a breakthrough in the investigation.
    “If not for some crafty police work, the entire investigation could have gone up in smoke.”
    @ 00m 22s
    March 13, 2021
  • The Shocking Murder of Kathy Lauric
    Kathy Lauric was murdered in broad daylight while on her lunch break, shocking the community.
    “This kind of thing happening to her would be like being struck by lightning.”
    @ 04m 42s
    March 13, 2021
  • DNA Evidence Leads to Arrest
    Robert Frazier was identified through DNA evidence linking him to the crime scene.
    “The DNA is what solved this crime.”
    @ 21m 02s
    March 13, 2021

Episode Quotes

  • I still want to walk, I don’t want to be intimidated.
    Trail of a Killer | Forensic Files | S14 E15 | FULL EPISODE
  • There are no coincidences like that, you know.
    Trail of a Killer | Forensic Files | S14 E15 | FULL EPISODE
  • He is a monster.
    Trail of a Killer | Forensic Files | S14 E15 | FULL EPISODE

Key Moments

  • Murder in Daylight00:06
  • Crafty Police Work00:22
  • Community Shock04:50
  • Suspect's Suicide09:59
  • DNA Breakthrough21:02

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