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Southside Strangler | S1 E6 | Forensic Files | FULL EPISODE

March 04, 2025 / 22:33

This episode covers the 1987 murder of Susan Tucker, the investigation led by Detective Joe Horgus, and the use of DNA evidence to convict Timothy Spencer.

The episode begins with the details of Susan Tucker's murder in Arlington, Virginia, while her husband was away. Detective Joe Horgus was assigned to the case, which revealed similarities to a previous murder of Carolyn Ham just a few blocks away.

As the investigation unfolded, Horgus linked the murders to a series of similar crimes in Richmond, Virginia. The FBI's Behavioral Science unit provided a profile of the likely killer, suggesting a young male with a troubled background.

Forensic evidence, including hair and semen samples, was collected from the crime scenes. The episode highlights the groundbreaking use of DNA testing, which ultimately linked Timothy Spencer to both the Tucker and Ham murders.

Timothy Spencer was arrested, and DNA evidence played a crucial role in his conviction for the murders. The episode concludes with the impact of DNA technology on criminal investigations and the emotional toll on the victims' families.

TL;DR

Susan Tucker's murder led to a groundbreaking DNA case that convicted Timothy Spencer for multiple murders.

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shortly after Thanksgiving in
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1987 an intruder broke into the Tucker
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residence in Arlington
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Virginia it might have been just another
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statistic but the crime committed that
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night launched a new era in police
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investigations
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[Music]
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this is how DNA evidence and
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psychological profiling helped catch a
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serial killer and set an innocent man
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free
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[Music]
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[Music]
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[Applause]
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everything about her was very gentle she
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was very
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softspoken um just had this amazing
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softness about her um this human quality
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44-year-old Susan Tucker was a
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Publications editor who worked for the
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United States forestry service she was
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spending the Thanksgiving holiday alone
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since her husband Reggie was out of the
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country in Wales on a business trip
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neither of us could put the phone
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down we kept saying I love you and we
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said this over and over again I don't
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know how many times but without
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explanation telephone calls went
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unanswered and neighbors noticed her
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bedroom window wide open in the cold
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November weather so they called police
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as they approached the front door they
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noticed it was a jar inside a woman's
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purse was lying on the foyer floor I
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arranged call on the Monday couldn't get
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an answer just just ran sucker I rang
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again I rang
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again I don't know how many times I
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around Susan Tucker's badly decomposed
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body was lying face down on the bed dead
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she had been dead for four or 5 days her
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hands were tied behind her back her feet
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were tied the head hanging over the side
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of the bed almost she had been strangled
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and possibly raped it appeared that the
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killer more than likely was was inside
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the home for for quite some time I mean
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it wasn't a just very you know quick in
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andout type of a situation uh you know
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many of the the drawers had been you
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know ransacked had been gone through
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when Reggie Tucker first first heard the
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news he was devastated she said sir I've
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got bad
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news and I knew it I just knew it at
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that
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point I just you know
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my my whole
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world just fell
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away Detective Joe horgus of the
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Arlington Police homicide unit was
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quickly assigned to the case his task
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wouldn't be easy for for one thing the
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killer had been careful he had worn
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gloves and left no fingerprints this has
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been White Plain it had been raining on
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the night of the murder and he
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meticulously cleaned the area around his
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point of entry he's smart enough uh to
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know that Footprints which is what we
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were we would have gotten from that
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would maybe come back to Hanam which
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kind of tells you maybe some past
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experience on burglaries police
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collected the sheets night gown and the
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large sleeping bag which covered Susan
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Tucker's body to look for possible blood
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and seon stains they found hairs on the
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bedding around Susan Tucker's body in
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the bathroom sink and on a washcloth
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discovered outside on the clothes line
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and they gathered shards of broken glass
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from the basement window everything was
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taken to the forensics lab for analysis
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but perhaps the most important clue was
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all also the most obvious the rope and
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Knots used to strangle Susan Tucker the
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police were convinced they had seen this
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Killer's work
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before 3 years earlier a 34-year-old
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lawyer named Carolyn ham had been raped
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and strangled in her home only four
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blocks away from Susan Tucker the killer
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entered the ham residence the same way
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through a basement window and tied his
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victim using the same knots and it's not
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a common occurrence not not common at
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all to see victims killed by using
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ligatures to strangle them uh ropes
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tying up victims um that's it's really
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quite rare but the H case was closed
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when this man David Vasquez confessed to
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her murder and was sentenced to 35 years
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in prison could he have had an
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accomplice Horus spoke to him for
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several hours and from the way he was
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talking and everything and answering my
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questions I didn't think he knew a damn
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thing about Carolin H's murder while
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detective horgus began his search for
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Susan Tucker's killer 100 miles away in
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the capital city of Richmond police
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there were investigating a series of
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murders shockingly similar the body of
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35-year-old Debbie Davis was found
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inside her South Richmond apartment
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she'd been raped and stranged in less
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than a month two young women had been
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raped and strangled in their homes just
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a few blocks from each other in each
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case there was a forced entry with the
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murderer entering by cutting the screens
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and entering through an open window each
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victim was strangled both victims were
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quite between the ages of 30 and 35
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years 2 weeks later he struck again this
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time a 15-year-old girl raped and
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strangled in her bedroom while her
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family was sleeping
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all three had been bound raped and
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strangled with rope the knots were
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identical to the ones used in the
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Arlington cases detective Horus
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suspected that the killer of Susan
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Tucker was the same man who murdered
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Carol and ham and the three women in
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Richmond if horgus was correct a Serial
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murderer was loose on a 100m killing
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spree
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detective horgus believed the man who
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raped and strangled Susan Tucker had
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also murdered Carolyn ham 3 years
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earlier horgus also believed the same
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man was responsible for the three rapes
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and murders in Richmond 100 miles away
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the Richmond police weren't so sure I
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mean they have three murders that were
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within a couple Miles Square radius I
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I'm guessing or maybe even
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less uh that you know and and now we're
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trying to say that a 100 miles away
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we're trying to link something to theirs
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it's like he get out of here I mean this
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thought a local guy horgus was a man of
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he was the perfect man for this case
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because he was obsessed
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he he was he knew something was wrong
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author Paul monz wrote a bestselling
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book entitled stalking Justice it
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profiles the rapes and murders of these
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five women and the history-making
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investigation which followed Joe horgus
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is motivated by by uh the uh the hunt
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he's not a guy who's obsessed by issues
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of right and wrong except for his own
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internal moral compass which tells him
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if there's an innocent man in prison I
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don't care if we got the guilty guy we
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got to get the innocent man out and he
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was determined to get this guy but if
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horgus was right that all of these
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murders were connected he needed proof
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for that he turned to to the forensics
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lab where scientists were examining the
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stains found on Susan Tucker's night
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gown and bedding I found four semen
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stains and when I analyzed the sleeping
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bag I found one very large semen stain I
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typed all of those stains the Sean came
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from an individual with type O blood and
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a pgm1 enzyme profile although this
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matched 133% of the population it also
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matched the seen found at the carollyn
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ham murder
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scene next they turned their attention
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to the hair found at the Tucker crime
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scene and there are characteristics
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microscopically that can classify hair
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into one of three racial categories
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which are Caucasian negroid or
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the hairs found at the Tucker
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crime scene appeared to be pubic and did
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not appear to be from the victim or her
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husband they were positively identified
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as negroid in origin this was another
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possible link to the Carolyn ham murder
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case 3 years earlier at the time of
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Ham's murder a black male wearing a mask
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had raped a number of women in the same
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neighborhood the masked rapist was never
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apprehended and horgus always suspected
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that there was a connection to the H
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murder actually the same day that
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Carolyn H's body was found another girl
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lady uh was in her house uh and this
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black male with a mask and a knife uh
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Bur regiz her PL house got her and
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actually uh he did some sexual activity
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with her the Richmond police and later
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the Arlington Police both sought help
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from the FBI's Behavioral Science unit
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in Quantico Virginia this unit has
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interviewed hundreds of serial killers
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to learn what similarities exist in
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their psychological makeup they were
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able to predict a number of important
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things about the killer we get in look
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at the uh the behavior that's that's uh
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uh left by the offender in the
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commission of his crime uh it's we
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believe that by looking
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at uh that behavior we can interpret the
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type of offender uh that may have
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committed the crime the fact that the
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Strangler attacked his victims in their
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homes suggested that he had stalked them
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first and knew precisely when to strike
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the FBI concluded that the perpetrator
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was between the age of 18 and 30 the
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quiet type a loner who held a menial job
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he probably had a troubled relationship
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with his mother and began his crimes
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free with arson historically many serial
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rapists and murderers begin with arson
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serial killers are usually white but
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could be any race he lived or worked
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close to where he committed his first
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crimes that's because
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criminals begin their crimes freeze in
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an area where they feel most
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comfortable he took sadistic pleasure in
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strangling his victims he would
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periodically release the bindings so he
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could hear his victim plead for her life
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it appeared that the perpetrator had
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intended the victim to suffer
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considerably in one case a shoe
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impression was found on the victim's
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back these w women were obviously first
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just terrified to the very bone and then
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were systematically sexually assaulted
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and um uh you know at the end and it's
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not clear whether they were dead when he
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did this or alive but he also
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masturbated on his victims and it was
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these Seaman samples which would prove
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to be extremely important pieces of
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evidence I can remember a prosecutor
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Helen fahe a couple days after the
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murder asking me if this was going to be
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a a DNA case and I'm kind of I don't
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know I we don't even know what we had
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got yet in 1987 when Susan Tucker was
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murdered DNA evidence was still in its
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infancy the first time DNA evidence was
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used in a criminal case was only a year
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earlier in England when DNA from a
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seaman sample was used to convict a
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bakery worker with the rape and murder
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of two 15-year-old girls horgus decided
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to to try this new DNA testing sending
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the seamen stains from Susan Tucker's
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night gown to the life codes laboratory
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in New York forensic scientists were
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concerned that the samples may have
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degraded or been
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contaminated you basically isolate the
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DNA you cut it up you generate profiles
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or patterns and you then generate these
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patterns on a piece of X-ray film so
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it's like a picture of the DNA and when
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you then compare these pictures and the
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components are the same and the the two
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dnas that would indicate that they're
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from the same Source the final results
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from the DNA tests would take up to 10
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weeks but Detective horgus still didn't
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have a
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suspect detective horgus suspected that
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the same individual who raped and
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murdered Susan Tucker and Carolyn Han 3
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years earlier was the Mas rapist who was
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committing crimes in the same area but
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was never caught so Horan drove out to
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an area of Arlington known as Green
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Valley the area where the masked rapist
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committed his first assaults the FBI
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told horgus that rapists usually commit
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their first crime close to home if the
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first rape was the first rape for this
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guy then he would have lived around
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there and that was very crucial to me
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because I didn't I didn't know that and
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as he drove through Green Valley Horus
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tried to recall the names or es of
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likely suspects young men he'd run
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across over the years who came from that
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area and it just so happens that
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detective horgus uh started to focus on
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this one juvenile he he had dealt with I
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remembered him he just couldn't place
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the name and all I could remember was
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Timmy I could see his face I remembered
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the
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approximate time period and everything
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that he that I remembered him from but I
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couldn't remember his last name so we
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running all these names to the computer
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scene when they had been locked up and
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released and suddenly he just came in
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and he said Spencer Timothy Spencer
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that's the name and I saw where he was
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arrested in on January the 29th
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1984 which was four days after Carolyn H
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her body was found Spencer's history
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unfolded in trouble as a teenager he had
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a string of burglary convictions and
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even more surprising just as the FBI
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predicted Spencer had first drawn police
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attention for arson for setting fire to
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his mother's car he was presently in a
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halfway house in Richmond well that wow
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that's exciting now Spencer was on
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probation living in this halfway house
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just a short distance from where the
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Richmond murders took place and
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according to House Records Spencer had
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been signed out during the Thanksgiving
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holiday visiting his mother in Arlington
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the week Susan Tucker was murdered the
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fact that he got out of prison two weeks
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before the first murders down in
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Richmond the fact that he was available
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for every murder the fact that he came
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to Arlington when he did for our murder
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and the FBI was correct about another
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important detail Spencer lived in the
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area where the first rape was committed
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and that happened over there and at the
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time Timothy Spencer was living down
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here over this hill Hill in his mother's
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house barely a mile from the homes of
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Carolyn ham and Susan
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Tucker on January 20th 1988 police
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arrested Timothy
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Spencer within hours they had collected
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a blood sample some of his hair and
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confiscated his clothing for forensic
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analysis the clothing was scraped down
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for removing any debris in once that
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debris was uh collected it was taken to
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a microscope several dozen particles of
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glass were removed from the debris that
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was uh removed from his clothing the
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glass fragments were of particular
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interest to the
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police after police recovered glass
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particles from Spencer's clothing they
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were examined forensically to see if
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they matched glass from any of the
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victim's homes one technique is called
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glass GL refraction analysis by Shining
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Light from different points on the
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Spectrum through the particles the
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characteristics of the glass can be
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plotted on a graph in effect measuring
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how the particles bend light if you
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stick the pin into the water which is
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more dense than the air it bends the
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light what we're doing with the glass
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particle basically is measuring how much
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the light is bent in a refract and we
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call it refractive index they compared
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the glass fragments found on Spencer's
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clothing to the glass particles taken
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from the broken window at Susan Tucker's
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home we were able to say that that glass
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that was removed from Spencer's clothing
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either came from that particular pain or
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that particular source of glass or
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another source of glass that had the
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same Optical characteristics when
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scientists completed the DNA analysis of
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the Seaman stain found at the Susan
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Tucker crime scene they made a chilling
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Discovery and I remember pointing out an
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x-ray film from the from the developer
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and holding it up from these two
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separate cases and being you know
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bombarded immediately that the patterns
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I'm seeing are the same I'm seeing the
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same profile on this case from one
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County versus this case from a second
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County which says to me that same the
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same person's involved in both of those
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incidents really gave you chills up and
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down your spine to see something like
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that horgus was right all along the
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Seaman sample from the individual who
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raped and presumably murdered Susan
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Tucker matched the Seaman stains from
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the murders in Richmond there were seven
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hairs there were consistent with his
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there was a glass fragment that was
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consistent with his his family couldn't
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provide him with a complete Alibi for
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the entire weekend and finally Timothy
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Spencer's blood DNA was compared to the
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Seaman samples from The Crime Victims
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once we got a sample from uh Mr Spencer
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to test uh we generated a profile that
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was the same as the profile we got from
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the evident samples we had a frequency
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of occurrence of greater than one in a
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million so that means that only one
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person in a million in the population
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would have that particular genetic
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profile and starting with the first
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result the blood
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type it was a match it was a match it
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was a match it was a match on July 11th
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1988 Timothy Spencer went on trial for
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his life it was the first time in the
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United States where DNA evidence would
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be used in a Serial murder case it took
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the jury less than 7 hours to find
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Timothy Spencer guilty of rape and
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capital murder he was sentenced to death
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I feel some kind of
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relief uh but I'll never have my wife
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back know that's that's really the
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bottom line is I'll never really feel
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happy I can't feel happy about
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somebody being guilty of raping and
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murdering my wife I can't feel happy
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about that so whatever anger I feel I
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will feel till I
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[Music]
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die death was pronounced by the
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attending position at 1113 p.m. there
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were no complications Mr Spencer did not
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make a last statement thank you up until
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his death I don't
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think the Timothy Spencer made the
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connection between Sean and
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blood I don't think he knew that the
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same DNA that's in your semon is in your
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blood without DNA it would have been
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impossible to convict Timothy Spencer he
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if he had committed those murders a year
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or two years earlier he could not have
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been convicted in fact if this had been
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1984 or
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1985 we probably would not even have
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arrested him some people ask the
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question will DNA fingerprinting replace
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detective work I don't think so Susan
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Tucker left detective horgus the crime
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scene and Timothy Spencer um left part
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of himself at the crime
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scene but his name would never have come
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up if it wasn't for Detective horgus
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    Best concept / idea

Episode Highlights

  • The Murder of Susan Tucker
    In 1987, Susan Tucker was found murdered in her home, leading to a groundbreaking investigation.
    “This crime launched a new era in police investigations.”
    @ 00m 23s
    March 04, 2025
  • DNA Evidence Breakthrough
    Detective Joe Horgus utilized DNA evidence for the first time in a serial murder case.
    “It was the first time in the United States where DNA evidence would be used in a serial murder case.”
    @ 19m 56s
    March 04, 2025
  • Timothy Spencer's Conviction
    Timothy Spencer was found guilty of multiple murders, marking a significant moment in forensic history.
    “The jury took less than 7 hours to find Timothy Spencer guilty of rape and capital murder.”
    @ 20m 04s
    March 04, 2025

Episode Quotes

  • My whole world just fell away.
    Southside Strangler | S1 E6 | Forensic Files | FULL EPISODE
  • It was a match, it was a match, it was a match!
    Southside Strangler | S1 E6 | Forensic Files | FULL EPISODE
  • I'll never really feel happy about somebody being guilty of raping and murdering my wife.
    Southside Strangler | S1 E6 | Forensic Files | FULL EPISODE

Key Moments

  • Murder Discovery02:27
  • DNA Evidence12:41
  • Trial Verdict20:04

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