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okay Runners only with dime Harley
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Runners only with dom Harvey and Rachel
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Hunter hello
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it's fabulous to have you here so we're
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you're sitting in my podcast Lounge we
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are
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I I just want to start by giving a
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reference point to like just what a big
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deal you are and just how how famous you
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are because I'm guessing there's
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probably two maybe two demographics of
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people listening to this there's people
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that are people that know you're a big
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deal but think oh that's Rachel she was
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a big deal in New Zealand and then she
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married Rod Stewart but then there's
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people older than that like me that
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remember like just how famous you were
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in the late 80s and 90s and to give you
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a reference so where we're sitting it is
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literally a stone's throw away from the
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celebrity walk at Victoria Park Market
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now this used to be a thriving sort of
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mall now it's just offices but there's a
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celebrity walk there which I think is
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one of the best kept secrets in Auckland
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no one knows about it and you're there
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with your hand how old were you when you
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did your hand print in the concrete like
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it's 18 19 17. it was probably pretty
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young it was probably like 20 like yeah
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1920 I guess yeah
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um is that better yeah that's better
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um yeah it was probably it was probably
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about 1920 at that stage but yeah at the
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hot honestly that whole just everything
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from right from the beginning when I
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started
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at 16 to you know that point I mean I
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never expected any of this and I was
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just so you know and I told you this
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before but I was I actually got found
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running because I was running
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and because I was a runner yeah like
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yeah you told me no no no no no no no no
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no no you don't have to justify your
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plays on the podcast yes you're an 800
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meter Runner when you were at school no
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well I did the Athletics like I was
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really into the Athletics yeah um at
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school at high school and I threw myself
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into that as well as I was a ballerina
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so I also they studied dance quite um
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for a long long time for like 11 years
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and uh and then at school I did uh did
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the Athletics will Athletics so I was
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800 I did the 100 but obviously with my
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height the 100 wasn't the best one
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um and then from that once I left school
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or to keep my running and my technique
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up I guess was I would run 10ks a day
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down to ballet so I would run from
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Glenfield to Milford and then dance for
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like four hours and then my mum would
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pick me up and during that time when I
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was running was when actually
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someone spotted me on the beach when I
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was doing my 10k run a day so I'd do
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10ks like every day and it was it was
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something that and you know and I'm sure
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that's what you've found there was a
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freedom in it there was this the mind
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was free by the time you start when
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things were like heavy at the beginning
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of like how the school was or what was
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going on at home or what you're
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personally going through as a teenager
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by the time I was down at the beach
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everything had changed yeah and I think
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that's the beauty of like exercise of
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finding something what your flow is
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whatever that is and that changes and
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the evolution of who we are is really
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important and um I think sports sports
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does that for us I mean it's our entry
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point isn't it for helping that physical
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side absolutely I mean the mental health
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benefits that I get from running are
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second to none what were you were you
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listening to music back then I'm
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guessing you would have happened like a
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Walkman or a discipline yeah this is
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this man wouldn't have gone down so well
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so well I think it was
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maybe like Walkman with a cassette on
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that's how crazy so what do you mean you
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discovered it discovered on the beach
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how does that happen so you're running I
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was I was
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and
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um basically this guy comes running up
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to many goes
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um
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do you want to model and I was like no I
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don't you know no I'm like that's creepy
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right and she's like who comes up and
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says that were like you know a 16 year
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old girl like that's creepy who was it
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can you remember who he was in hindsight
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he must have he was a legit obviously
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yeah he was and you know and he was he
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was the one who took my very first
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photos and stuff and and he I took the
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card took it home to my mum and within
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the next week I was in her Studio taking
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photos and the next week later I was in
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a modeling agency and then at all just
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so the running actually was the one
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something that so that's what you just
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don't know you your actions that take
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you out of
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of places sometimes the things that
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really make you well they all do for us
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right find our loves or find out what
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our path is right
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um yeah and then it kind of just all
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went from there so what what did you
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what did you have like from the lens now
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of um a woman in her early 50s you look
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the 16 year old Rachel what did she have
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what was that X Factor
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I have no idea I thought I was honestly
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growing up I had a bug teeth I had a a
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um I was a geek at school everybody
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teased me I used to have yogurt at lunch
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in the corner where I didn't like speak
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to anybody
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yes no I'm not Joe no no no no no no it
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was it was really
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like really super lanky and awkward and
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but at the same time I went and did the
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ballet because that's where I kind of
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got lost in in that so I don't know what
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I don't know what that was
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um but I certainly didn't believe it but
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I thought it was hilarious like okay we
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can do that
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must be like a natural and like a
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natural natural beauty I guess yeah I
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guess yeah but you so how how different
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would your life have looked had you not
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me that guy didn't you have like um
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you had to stop Dancing Yeah and you
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wanted to be a vet I wanted to be a vet
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yeah yeah so yeah it would have
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definitely gone into that I mean I tried
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secretary School even when I was doing
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modeling was that a thing I did it she
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went to the bridge school it was like
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you're sitting there on the typewriters
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it's a true thing and I was there and I
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think I got shoved out of there because
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I didn't turn up for for that so I got
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booted out of that but I would have
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absolutely kind of gone more the vet or
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or something yeah yeah and toxic
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plasmosis was what is that exactly
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it's from cat it funnily enough usually
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pregnant women if they're around
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letterboxes or something they get it or
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from raw meat so I actually don't know
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around 15 that's when I got it
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um and I was extremely tired I had nine
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months basically away from school and
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again that was a pivotal moment where it
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was like okay the dance has got to stop
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I can't dance anymore to get that muscle
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back
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um having trained for all those years
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and for a disease like that to kind of
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come in it really it took me down even
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just to go out for a drive it would
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um exhaust me and I'd have to come home
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and sleep for four hours so all those
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oh it's so hard to tell people because
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listen there was nothing that was
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that was harming me obviously yes
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toxoplasmosis was a disease there were
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certain things in the home that was like
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mum and dad splitting up there was all
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these different scenarios that were
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happening
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that pushed me to where I am today and
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but to say that is a very hard thing
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because you do have to trust the process
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of it but we do have to be active and
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proactive in our own Evolution and to
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make those choices and that's the hard
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part that we go but how do we do that
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yeah you know and and I think what we
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have to do is not what we have to do
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because I can't speak for other people
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but for making those choices those
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healthy choices for ourselves like the
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running eating different different
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choices of friends like that we're not
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trees we can change you know we can move
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we can we can we can
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we can shift
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um location
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um but it's funny because all those
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moments I will
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you know we go back to the oh how many
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times have you said that's what made me
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who I who I am now like that's yeah
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everything leads
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the shittiest things now I'm not talking
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I'm not talking about horrific you know
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scenarios I'm going to make that clear
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but like the normal day-to-day things
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that happen to us that you know that
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that are those pivotal moments in our
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life how old were you when you when your
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parents broke up and then you mentioned
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that just before and I I know
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you were so close with your mum but I
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was just thinking I know nothing about
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it yeah so there were scenarios that's
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like my heartbreaking by the way but
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then there was another sorry like there
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were different scenarios that kind of
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were that you know those were some kind
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of fun and interesting times to be a
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parent right like it was pretty
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everything was pretty loose right yeah I
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can I can relate I'm not talking about
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me as a parent I'm talking about like
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your parents yeah yeah yeah there was no
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seat belts like there was very nice very
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nice you'd go out and go and play all
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day and just come home when it gets dark
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yeah
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um my mum and dad broke up on and off
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again numerous times and they were I
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look back now and it was a toxic
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relationship and they they stayed
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together for the kids it would have been
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better if they broke up yeah there was
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definitely different times and there was
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definitely scenarios that happened
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do you care about that about the siren
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yeah no that's all right okay good
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um so like life
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let's hope that that person is not gonna
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be okay
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um probably Ram Raiders oh my God we're
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in Auckland oh yeah so your appearance
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like yeah they there were many times
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that they kind of like did this you know
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there was the same scenarios that
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happened and
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um he's so cute it's like no Kanye's
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just come back in he's like something
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else
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um
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yeah I mean listen by the time they I
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you know I was 15 I was like can you
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guys please just like break up because
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this is like just obviously not working
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and you know kids know that they're not
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silly are they yeah was it was it like a
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fighty household or just tension in the
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air or it just didn't work yeah you know
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just it just didn't work and Dad's
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amazing like he is the life and soul of
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a party he worked for Continental
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Airlines he worked in the airlines for
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years so he was he was very
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we traveled because he was working in
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New Zealand and NAC back then
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um but he was uh yeah he was the life
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and soul of the party extremely funny
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very good looking my parents were very
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very good looking
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um just stunning couple but yeah it just
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didn't didn't work out in the end you're
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still quite close now with Dad yeah he's
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done and um he was at down in Tauranga
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for a while while and then he's in
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whakatane and then I think they're
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moving back but yeah but he keeps it
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pretty low profile yeah never seen him
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in the in the public eye or anything no
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do you think um
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psycho analyzing here but with marrying
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rod and the big age Gap there people
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immediately when there's an age Gap they
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say daddy issues yeah I have no idea
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um
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because I I don't know like where uh
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where are we at now in relationships
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there's many people doing you know
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different different
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is it really guys I just want you to
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know that I'm going through an
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appointment my daughter's just
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interrupted me saying that I'm sweating
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on the top of my lip when I'm actually
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not sitting
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Renee come on in do you want to dab your
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mum
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um yeah I'm I'm sorry the debt like the
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whole like the daddy issues I like no
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rod and I were like
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um we were meant to be together like it
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was a really strong and I didn't feel
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I'm just not that type of person that's
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going to go and but maybe it was maybe
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it wasn't I don't know like I mean when
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we look at like if you want to go back
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and I mean just look at movies like
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people do there's been doing crazy stuff
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like you know you could psychoanalyze a
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lot of stuff
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um
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and then I went the other way so there
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wasn't actually if I look at my types
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there's not actually not actually a type
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yeah yeah yeah I feel like with you it's
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probably a personality type like Rod was
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older than you but he said a fun guy oh
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yeah yeah okay but you know we'll get to
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that we're jumping around about it yeah
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but I can I can sort of relax my uh
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girlfriend at the moment she's like
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there's like a 21 year old gap between
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us yeah how does that feel well I say to
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her how's the music station switching on
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there yeah like music wise or she
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doesn't know what a radio is but I I I I
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I we had a chat on the phone yesterday
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there are things that come up from time
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to time and I I was talking about some
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people and I said I like Beavis and
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Butthead and she was like what's Beavis
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and Butthead okay so these little like
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like I suppose pop culture references
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that come up but I obviously to her
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people are going to say you've got daddy
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issues and she's like well I've got a
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great relationship with my dad I love my
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dad so much so I think that's a cop out
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of it yeah I think it's something that
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people can just like start in the
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conversation and say and that's a great
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thing that people can talk about know
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everything but who gives a [ __ ] in the
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end like as long as you're happy you do
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you and everyone else can do them
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absolutely God I feel like yeah yeah
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listen we'll get we'll get to this in
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more depth later I feel like you copped
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uh copped a lot of [ __ ] at the time
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though
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well yeah like I did a little bit of
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research for this for this um for this
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chat we're having today and you were on
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Letterman and you're on the late night
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talk shows and it was the thing in all
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of them and the some of the line of
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questioning would be like entirely
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inappropriate under the 2023 lens and
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you were just always really good at
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laughing it off and yeah not making the
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host feel like a deck even though they
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were being decks yeah but anyway it yeah
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like it was
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yeah it's so funny like I mean I look at
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like you know sometimes people say oh
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you know you know some of the work that
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we have done over the years but it was
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relative to to that time that was
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decision that was made during that era
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you know and it's it's not stuff I would
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do now you know there's certain things I
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wouldn't do now you know if the choices
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as far as even I love that the dog's dry
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humping whatever that Ted is the cat
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does but we call it we call all the all
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the stuff to his bunny that would be
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where's bunny
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it's okay why couldn't you get him
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something else other than the cactus oh
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he's got so many toys so many toys yeah
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by the way he doesn't do this with all
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the guests well yeah yeah you must be
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like this lady is an animal lover she
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was going to be a vet I was scared what
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you were gonna say man
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um
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yeah no there was there was definitely
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some rough things but I think honestly
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it definitely comes down
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just get him dry humping it would be
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good right there we go go
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where's bunny
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oh this is shambolic sorry Rachel I'm
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normally way more professional than this
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no this is oh my God we're gonna like
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pretend where's ballet
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no he's like no no please no photos
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okay so
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um no but the
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the whole the getting Flack off all the
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media and stuff like
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I think you just it is what it is and
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you just you just you just go through it
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yeah are you geez so like one of the
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earliest clips of you I found is when um
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I think it was 1617
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um you just signed like a 100 000
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contract and the reporter said something
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like you're going to be earning more
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than the Prime Minister yeah
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you you was so wise beyond your years
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back then like when you look back and
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see Clips like that I think I think you
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shared it on your Facebook page like
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about a year ago do you like do you
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still feel like that person or does that
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feel like a completely different person
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no I've really been driven by my I would
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say my heart completely and that's all
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along yeah I would say so absolutely
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like mostly like I mean obviously I've
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made some dumb you know Silly choices
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and work and stuff but I feel like what
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as far as just different TV shows I
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think I would have done or been put in
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the Firing Lane as as far as like doing
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stuff like that and coming back with you
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know more you know quicker answers or
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appropriate things but you you're young
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like you're not I thought you always
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handled yourself beautifully yeah well
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thank you but yeah it was um
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I don't know it yeah
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so so you you discovered on the beach
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and then um over what time spent so
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because when you were 17 you're on the
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cover of and I've Loved four magazines
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in Australia at once like Vogue like big
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legit magazines yeah yeah
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um so you get so you get discovered by
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this guy you have some photos taken by
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how so you're at school then you're not
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at school so basically I was doing my
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math exam and then they were like Rachel
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there's a phone call for you and then
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they were like okay you have a shoot
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tomorrow do you want to do it and I was
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like I put down the phone and never went
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back into the math exam and walked
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straight out of the front of the school
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well fine landline in the office
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just everyone for those who don't
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understand what I think it has a curly
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curly tail or a straight tail probably
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even though
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it was probably definitely done [ __ ]
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yeah wow yeah and that was it
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so I'm calling [ __ ] when you say you
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look funny and you had buck teeth and
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you must have been like like you know a
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standout at school
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it's in Glenford coming going Rachel a
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model not a chance yeah like I think
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you're just you're just down playing it
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no I'm not I'm absolutely not no like
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there was I was just really taught like
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tall lanky geeky curly curly you know
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and you know like
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just I didn't know who I was it was just
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me and it's always it's always been that
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way too it hasn't really changed from
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that like I I you know sometimes you you
00:17:49
kind of become more aware and you're
00:17:50
like okay you know yeah I I you know I
00:17:54
need to lose this or do that or or do
00:17:56
something different like you have more
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of an awareness but then no there was
00:18:00
still that innocence and I think that's
00:18:02
what it was you're innocent of who you
00:18:04
are then did you did you stay innocent
00:18:06
or did you grow up fairly [ __ ]
00:18:08
quickly no no but I I definitely
00:18:11
you know
00:18:14
go no that's not right yes this is right
00:18:17
or I'm not putting up with that I
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definitely had a great time I mean you
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know we were non-stop traveling I used
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to you know sometimes I think I mean
00:18:30
with Sports Illustrated I was out there
00:18:32
for three weeks three or four weeks
00:18:33
which some people just were coming in
00:18:35
and out but I mean honestly I was I
00:18:38
literally had this incredible career
00:18:40
delivered to me and like going this is
00:18:42
and I I mean I had no idea really what
00:18:44
when I looked look back now and go oh
00:18:47
wow you were given that that and you did
00:18:49
that like you were doing Revlon
00:18:51
Covergirl all these magazines like and
00:18:53
and campaigns and you're like I didn't
00:18:56
really realize what I was doing it just
00:18:58
yeah you're living but yes just be much
00:19:00
time reflecting on it now and just how
00:19:02
mind-boggling and amazing it is so
00:19:04
grateful yeah so this was a time this
00:19:08
was a time where like supermodels were a
00:19:10
thing and there was like a few so there
00:19:11
was like Naomi Campbell there was Cindy
00:19:13
Crawford
00:19:14
um Christie Brinkley
00:19:16
um Elle Macpherson yeah oh yeah and you
00:19:18
you were you were in that mix amongst
00:19:20
them little rage from New Zealand like I
00:19:22
can't I can't overstate just like what a
00:19:24
what a big deal you were in New Zealand
00:19:26
at the time yeah yeah it was it was
00:19:28
interesting because when it first
00:19:29
happened I don't know how that happened
00:19:32
either like or the attention over it I
00:19:34
don't know how that happened like it
00:19:35
just all because I remember walking down
00:19:38
Queen Street and I was like oh my god
00:19:40
like people going hey Rich hey reach hey
00:19:43
reach and I remember walking in the back
00:19:45
of Queen Street down that road because I
00:19:48
was just like I'd freaked out because I
00:19:50
was like this is people know like it it
00:19:52
scared me
00:19:54
um
00:19:55
and but at the same time once I adjusted
00:20:00
because that's what you do you're just
00:20:01
it became just my way of life yeah yeah
00:20:04
well I suppose at the time like media
00:20:07
wasn't fragmented like it is now so
00:20:08
there was like two was there two or
00:20:10
three TV channels yeah it was like two
00:20:11
years
00:20:15
tell everyone it was time to go to bed
00:20:17
so it's like if you're on the news
00:20:19
everyone everyone knew you were on the
00:20:20
news there was no there's no social
00:20:22
media no no it was TV and radio
00:20:23
newspapers and that's it yeah so it's a
00:20:26
win it's amazing how actually news
00:20:27
actually got out yes in that fashion
00:20:30
where now it's like
00:20:33
you have to be feeding constantly with
00:20:35
content to be
00:20:36
at all in this game anymore yeah because
00:20:39
I I don't think there's very many true
00:20:42
household names anymore
00:20:44
um maybe maybe like Jacinda I do it
00:20:45
she's a household name but there's not
00:20:47
many but you were you were a household
00:20:49
name
00:20:50
yeah I mean I mean I think also yeah
00:20:53
during that time and then also when I
00:20:55
did knew oh we're going to jump probably
00:20:56
to that New Zealand's Got Talent and
00:20:58
then tour of beauty
00:21:00
um I love he's actually moved the bed in
00:21:02
now too like we've now got the
00:21:04
characters and the bed that has moved in
00:21:07
Renee you're not doing very good job
00:21:09
babysitting it's supposed to be a beard
00:21:11
but he just like scrunches it up and
00:21:13
helps them I mean he's worked out so
00:21:18
he's gonna be like what have you done to
00:21:19
the dog today he's spent
00:21:23
um I oh yeah so when did that when did
00:21:25
the Trump ahead come about there was an
00:21:26
iconic music that happened that someone
00:21:28
said oh there's this ad trumpet like
00:21:30
that was also the beginning of it that
00:21:32
was one of my very first jobs we're all
00:21:34
going to go up north
00:21:36
um in the car and then they needed the
00:21:37
one shot we we shot the the the TV
00:21:41
commercial they needed one more shot so
00:21:43
they took me to Mount Eden and I licked
00:21:46
the trumpet and then that was what ended
00:21:49
up in that in that club because I've got
00:21:52
something to show you the the there used
00:21:54
to be a thing in New Zealand's woman's
00:21:55
weekly like a celebrity look-alike page
00:21:57
and I think I think you won like five
00:21:58
dollars or a golden kiwi or a lotto
00:22:00
ticket anyway my sister Bridget who's uh
00:22:02
one year older than me
00:22:04
um she won a like a as a Rachel Hunter
00:22:06
look alike oh my God she did
00:22:09
oh wow although to be fair to be fear
00:22:13
the here is kind of similar but like
00:22:15
she's got an ice cream as a prop she
00:22:17
gave herself everything no that's pretty
00:22:18
amazing is that don't you think that's
00:22:21
been like related okay are we related
00:22:24
absolutely not but there's been like a
00:22:27
highlight of the Harvey family that's
00:22:29
amazing
00:22:30
oh it's not that you can see that though
00:22:32
that is Kenya oh absolutely why do you
00:22:34
not think so she's my sister
00:22:37
absolutely not a model
00:22:40
pretty amazing
00:22:45
yeah so so it's pretty amazing well your
00:22:48
eyesight's gone I reckon no it's not
00:22:51
the hair is really close too yeah yeah
00:22:53
so so
00:22:55
um okay so so you're 17
00:22:58
um you're over six where are you in New
00:23:00
York or Paris when you're earning 100
00:23:01
000 a year so basically went on to
00:23:05
um I went on to New York they asked me
00:23:08
to go over there four Deads because I
00:23:10
was going backwards and forwards to
00:23:11
Australia went on to New York City mum
00:23:14
was with me I was like great I was going
00:23:17
with Eileen Ford at the time
00:23:19
um
00:23:21
and then that was it Revlon the
00:23:24
Covergirl did it started doing all the
00:23:26
magazines Al magazine Hub is bizarre
00:23:28
again it just like kind of got delivered
00:23:30
and then it just it just kept going and
00:23:32
then obviously it was it was a fun time
00:23:35
to be in New York City
00:23:37
um but was that why was it a fun time
00:23:40
there was well I guess it was my age
00:23:43
like I mean you you know there were the
00:23:45
clubs there at the same time I was
00:23:47
always on a plane
00:23:49
there was a lot of downtime
00:23:51
um but when you were it was you
00:23:55
yeah it was different than it is going
00:23:58
out now for kids right like everything's
00:24:01
really super look I don't I was never
00:24:04
really a crazy crazy going you know out
00:24:06
person anyway I mean I was really only
00:24:09
someone who drunk and that was it like I
00:24:11
mean I was I was done ironically people
00:24:13
like no you must have been I was like no
00:24:16
I was never that person and I I had it I
00:24:20
had an amazing amazing time but then you
00:24:23
know you I had 20. well at the same time
00:24:25
then I went out with a couple of people
00:24:27
in the music industry
00:24:29
when I was younger like kept kept Winger
00:24:32
oh yeah yeah yeah from the band Winger
00:24:34
yeah they had a song called miles away
00:24:36
or something yeah yeah yeah right
00:24:39
um and then was this pre-rod pre-rod
00:24:41
yeah right um so I guess I did have a
00:24:43
little bit of a type for it
00:24:45
a bad boy thing maybe you know who else
00:24:48
anyone else
00:24:49
probably yeah
00:24:54
um don't go on it well there's that
00:24:57
stupid site that goes who have you dated
00:24:59
because half those people I'm like I had
00:25:00
nothing to do with them at all so oh
00:25:03
really is that a thing that is a thing
00:25:04
that seems highly offensive and
00:25:06
inappropriate anyway we like the Taylor
00:25:08
Swift of the 90s or something
00:25:10
like what
00:25:11
um so did anything bad happen in that
00:25:13
time like any like creepy photographers
00:25:15
comments about your diet comments about
00:25:17
your weight I mean there would always be
00:25:19
like you know I
00:25:22
know not like fig and model we were we
00:25:25
were very lucky at that time because at
00:25:26
the same time there was there was not a
00:25:29
weight issue there because it was more
00:25:31
of the normal shape figures it wasn't
00:25:33
like super super skinny but at the same
00:25:35
time every now and then you'd be eating
00:25:37
or having a couple of you know drinks
00:25:39
more than you know what you showed and
00:25:40
there'd be 10 pounds or 15 pounds so
00:25:42
there was always that awareness there
00:25:44
yeah but I mean again as as hard I I
00:25:48
wouldn't put up with that I wouldn't put
00:25:50
up with it
00:25:51
yeah and that that I find that amazing
00:25:54
so where did that sort of
00:25:56
self-assurance or confidence come from
00:25:58
because it definitely comes across on
00:26:00
Old interviews you've done as well it's
00:26:01
like you're not going to take [ __ ]
00:26:03
from anyone but you'd but you there was
00:26:04
a couple of times that absolutely like
00:26:06
it hurts and like when someone says that
00:26:09
like it's like any time that someone
00:26:11
kind of nips you and says it happens
00:26:13
when you're older as well when someone
00:26:15
goes hey you're out of lying and you're
00:26:17
like and it hurts you're actually like
00:26:19
maybe I am maybe I do need to pull my
00:26:22
head in maybe I do need to get myself
00:26:24
together
00:26:26
um so it still happens but I think as
00:26:29
far as dealing with uh
00:26:32
you know they look there was there's
00:26:34
been some scenarios that happen but at
00:26:37
the same time nothing that I couldn't
00:26:41
handle myself and and and and and you
00:26:44
know and put my foot down because I am
00:26:46
that type of person I don't know where
00:26:48
that that comes from but I mean
00:26:51
I'll take and take and take and then I
00:26:52
Roy yeah yeah good for you that's
00:26:55
amazing how did the stuff not go to your
00:26:58
head at the time if it was me I'd be an
00:27:00
out of control egomaniac oh yeah I
00:27:03
reckon I'd be a diabolical mess really
00:27:05
yeah [ __ ] yeah three weeks in the
00:27:07
Bahamas having my photo taken and
00:27:09
private jets and all that I've I've been
00:27:13
I'd be a nightmare to be around how did
00:27:15
you keep grounded
00:27:17
I I always considered it a New Zealand
00:27:20
thing because I was like you know
00:27:21
there's you always realize and you know
00:27:24
I I did not come from a wealthy
00:27:27
background whatsoever it came from a
00:27:30
family that uh was
00:27:33
you know back then fruit and vegetables
00:27:35
from the store was the cheapest food
00:27:37
right normal organic food that we call
00:27:39
organic now that everyone buys an
00:27:41
expensive restaurant expensive places
00:27:43
was our normal food
00:27:45
um I don't know I just
00:27:48
I just didn't
00:27:50
um I don't know I always think of
00:27:53
there's people that are in a far harder
00:27:56
scenario than what I am and I it always
00:27:58
and you see that you can see that on the
00:28:01
street you can see it from when you get
00:28:02
out of a car in so-called you're in a
00:28:05
limo and you and you look and you and
00:28:07
you take in what's around you you see
00:28:10
people there's suffering or there's this
00:28:12
so it you remain humble and you may
00:28:15
remain aware and at the same time you
00:28:18
you know you create that action that
00:28:20
yeah you you don't forget where you came
00:28:24
from
00:28:24
[ __ ] you're
00:28:26
um I mean you you can ask your mum those
00:28:28
because she passed a few years ago but
00:28:29
you could ask your dad but your your
00:28:30
parents must be like so proud none of
00:28:32
not of your um achievements and
00:28:34
accomplishments but just of um like your
00:28:36
character
00:28:37
like did you ever have a chat to your
00:28:39
mum about that or did she say that like
00:28:40
no I mean I was a very withdrawn child
00:28:43
when I was growing up like I was very
00:28:46
very quiet this is going to be funny but
00:28:48
I used to speak to the animals the only
00:28:50
friends that I had was my animals I used
00:28:53
to make like ant farms and insect farms
00:28:57
and you know yeah now I'm gonna start
00:28:59
selling crazy but they were my friends
00:29:01
they were my friends for a long time
00:29:04
because I I really was very sensitive to
00:29:08
like
00:29:09
like school was hard school's hard
00:29:12
like it gets nasty yeah yeah I already
00:29:15
you got taste people used to say you had
00:29:16
to carry it up your ass because if
00:29:18
you're a dance posture yeah like all of
00:29:20
that and I I just found like a lot of
00:29:23
like
00:29:25
nervous of like what people said it's so
00:29:28
funny now I'm recalling on that it's
00:29:29
like nervous of what people said or what
00:29:31
people thought or cared about that I
00:29:33
actually cared about that so that is a
00:29:35
very big flaw in my personality and it's
00:29:38
it's one of those things that I now go
00:29:40
no like you know it's one of my big
00:29:43
things that you've got to go out
00:29:44
especially after mum died I was like you
00:29:46
can't
00:29:47
apologize for who you are but yeah I was
00:29:51
I was a very inward quiet child
00:29:54
um and found friends very very
00:29:55
overwhelming but did you have a good
00:29:57
quote when you're at school look I don't
00:29:59
know what happened but once no it didn't
00:30:01
I mean I did I had two or three really
00:30:03
good friends yeah and I will say that
00:30:05
and people look people weren't horrible
00:30:07
it was just who I was you know what I
00:30:09
mean it was just who I was
00:30:13
any boyfriends at school like is there
00:30:15
is there is there a 53 year old Logan
00:30:16
Glenfield going around that's saying you
00:30:18
went to the ball with Rachel Hunter I
00:30:19
think I went out with someone and I
00:30:21
can't remember that or who that was when
00:30:23
I was 10 and then I found out that
00:30:25
they'd told one person and they dumped
00:30:27
them and said no that's not working out
00:30:28
so can you just tell me like how are you
00:30:31
meant to have a relationship yeah
00:30:34
how are you meant to have a relationship
00:30:36
when
00:30:37
you're scared of people knowing
00:30:40
oh don't Dougie just brought up her
00:30:43
website called uh who's dated who yeah I
00:30:45
was at the website you're talking about
00:30:46
yeah okay are you on that
00:30:48
um no like in your own like thing like
00:30:53
do you have a Dom page in there oh God I
00:30:55
doubt it
00:30:56
hang on
00:30:58
oh we're not going through the list okay
00:30:59
I'm not going through the list
00:31:03
um
00:31:04
so um how did how did you meet um Andy
00:31:08
Hayden and when did he come into the
00:31:09
past year I feel like he was he was he
00:31:11
was your manager for so many like
00:31:13
decades and uh it was a successful
00:31:15
partnership like often these things turn
00:31:17
nasty and you know someone's being
00:31:19
ripped off but they never happened I
00:31:20
feel like he was such a protector of you
00:31:22
it's so good for your career yeah he was
00:31:24
he it was yeah
00:31:26
um Andy I
00:31:28
was 17 and with the agency scenario I
00:31:32
was kind of getting sick of it so I read
00:31:35
the sports section because I was always
00:31:36
reading the sports section God Knows Why
00:31:39
and then I saw this person in the back
00:31:42
Andy Hayden representing some all blacks
00:31:46
and whatever he was doing at that time
00:31:48
and I shut the newspaper and I said that
00:31:50
man if he's managing an all black then
00:31:53
he's gonna I want him to manage me it's
00:31:55
17 okay so I called up and I said
00:31:59
um can I speak to Andy and
00:32:02
um
00:32:03
I said I want you to manage me and he
00:32:06
goes what am I going to do with you like
00:32:08
he was like I remember him saying that
00:32:10
and um he goes let me think about it and
00:32:13
that's I was a little bit ego then I was
00:32:15
like what do you mean you to think about
00:32:16
it like come on if you can manage nor
00:32:19
black you can manage me and um he put
00:32:22
the phone down he goes give me the
00:32:23
weekend to think about it anyway never
00:32:25
heard back and I was like no no no this
00:32:27
is not happening wow and then I
00:32:31
aggressively went after him to manage me
00:32:32
and eventually goes okay let's give it a
00:32:34
try and I said something like don't be
00:32:38
you know you need to take me on don't
00:32:39
you can't like how like you need to take
00:32:42
me on and
00:32:44
um yeah and that was it and I became so
00:32:47
close to you know trash
00:32:50
um Laura and Chris I've known since they
00:32:53
were babies
00:32:55
um and I mean Andy knew what to do he
00:32:59
knew like he he how did he know just
00:33:01
because I mean this is a time like um
00:33:04
you were you you were cutting your own
00:33:06
path I mean these Talent managers
00:33:08
everywhere now it's an agencies are a
00:33:10
diamond dozen but this was unchattered
00:33:12
Waters then yeah so how do you know what
00:33:13
to do was it just like an instinct thing
00:33:15
no I mean look there was yeah I think it
00:33:17
is I think you either have that in you
00:33:19
as far as knowing what to manage
00:33:21
um how to manage somebody
00:33:23
um because you're dealing with the same
00:33:25
very different types of people right but
00:33:27
at the same time you know the All Blacks
00:33:29
have a certain thing that they're
00:33:30
looking for that or those you know those
00:33:33
um athletes their personality in
00:33:34
themselves so it's the same thing deals
00:33:36
have been offered
00:33:38
um it was just different as far as like
00:33:40
tv offers or you know the women's
00:33:43
magazines you know all of those types of
00:33:45
things will come in so and it just it
00:33:47
just worked and he he was not only
00:33:50
someone who was a manager obviously he
00:33:52
was a great mentor he was a great
00:33:55
um father in some ways too
00:33:58
um obviously I have my dad but he was
00:34:00
yeah
00:34:01
I don't want to call him my father
00:34:03
father figure because I thought they
00:34:04
might be offensive to your dad but he
00:34:06
definitely was wasn't it he was a very
00:34:07
big influence on all of our family my
00:34:10
sister my mum like Dad like he really he
00:34:14
took care he had that magnificence about
00:34:17
him you know and and also never forget
00:34:20
like Trisha I mean she was she's just an
00:34:23
incredible woman too and of course now
00:34:26
the kids you know Laura Laura and um
00:34:28
Chris but and obviously Chris manages me
00:34:32
now but yeah I didn't know that yeah huh
00:34:35
yeah yeah like it stayed in there
00:34:38
because you know there's there's it goes
00:34:41
beyond you know just getting deals to me
00:34:43
there's this deep set relationship and
00:34:46
you can't you don't buy that you know
00:34:49
you can't pay a percentage for that like
00:34:51
because
00:34:52
yeah there needs to be you need to have
00:34:56
you know you need to nurture that and
00:34:58
and it's really important important to
00:35:00
me so yeah we've I've been there ever
00:35:03
since I was 16 basically 17. but I
00:35:05
hunted him down and I would not take no
00:35:07
for an answer I was like nope you are
00:35:10
managing me well you are a hunter by
00:35:12
name yeah that's that's amazing to think
00:35:15
that you had that sort of um
00:35:17
sense of knowing what you wanted at that
00:35:19
age oh my God Claire as a whistle yeah
00:35:22
yeah clear unbelievable unbelievable
00:35:25
isn't it funny though though what
00:35:27
happens like when you look at those
00:35:28
pivotal moments you'll you will be so
00:35:31
clear right like you've you don't even
00:35:34
hesitate you just go no or you just go
00:35:37
yes right yeah there is no hesitation
00:35:40
why but you think at that age you'd be
00:35:42
like asking other people what they think
00:35:43
like your parents or whoever yeah no and
00:35:47
what about your parents at this time so
00:35:49
your mum sort of became like your
00:35:50
chaperone for a while well she was yeah
00:35:52
she was there for about eight it like
00:35:54
took me over there and then pretty much
00:35:55
I left home by the time I was 16. so I
00:35:58
was living actually with my boyfriend at
00:36:00
the time down on the beach at 16 17 so I
00:36:03
left home quite early so
00:36:05
um I was out on my own I went from being
00:36:07
this shy inward child that had
00:36:10
toxoplasmosis that was you know doing
00:36:12
ballet was doing ballet competitions was
00:36:15
running
00:36:16
um you know had very you know a few very
00:36:19
important friends at school but you know
00:36:22
that school was not my thing so no no
00:36:25
it's not a lot of people's but yeah and
00:36:28
then it was like boom Straight Out The
00:36:30
Gate there was just no looking back
00:36:32
after 16. I didn't know what it was it
00:36:34
was like an explosion like who was who
00:36:37
was that that happened
00:36:39
you know to who who the hell were you at
00:36:42
16 who just turned around and just knew
00:36:46
what you were doing and it must do you
00:36:48
spend much time reflecting now or not
00:36:49
really like it was a crazy few years
00:36:51
yeah like I look it's insane yeah have
00:36:54
you got like the the magazine covers
00:36:56
hung up in frames around your house no
00:36:58
and a box somewhere yeah because I did
00:37:01
have them downstairs in a pool table
00:37:02
room but I didn't want with my children
00:37:05
growing up I didn't want them to see
00:37:07
that why because I don't think it's it
00:37:10
didn't I want them to have their
00:37:12
opportunity to like what was hanging on
00:37:15
the wall was us where that was yeah I've
00:37:18
done that and the kids knew and I did
00:37:20
have them hanging out for a little bit
00:37:22
but like I said I took those down pretty
00:37:24
pretty fast because I didn't want them
00:37:26
to yeah I just didn't want them to have
00:37:29
to
00:37:30
know me as that because that's that
00:37:33
someone's Vision that someone's dress up
00:37:35
version of me yeah and um one cover that
00:37:38
you made onto the cover of was um
00:37:40
Playboy and
00:37:42
um like it's easy to look at Playboy now
00:37:44
and go oh God that's like but this was a
00:37:46
big thing at the time my Playboy was a
00:37:48
classy makers it's not like the porn
00:37:50
that's online I don't know it was I mean
00:37:52
look you're on the cover event it said
00:37:54
um Stacy's mom is naked I know I know
00:37:58
how do you feel about that now looking
00:38:00
back I I wouldn't change it because
00:38:02
again I think that the the photographer
00:38:04
he was really beautiful how he shot it
00:38:07
um I I wouldn't apologize about that
00:38:10
whatsoever because like you said there
00:38:12
was person after person after person who
00:38:15
was on the covers and that was a legit
00:38:18
thing for now a celebrity a celebrity's
00:38:20
manager would say don't don't do this
00:38:22
but back then yeah Kim Kardashians and
00:38:24
yeah McPherson and Marilyn Monroe back
00:38:27
in the day and the thing is is people
00:38:28
have to see that was relative to that
00:38:30
time now would we do it
00:38:34
relative so there is no shame on me to
00:38:37
do that yeah I read an interview with
00:38:39
your um daughter saying she'd never do
00:38:41
it yeah
00:38:43
but yeah did you get paid he's like 2
00:38:45
million or something no no no no no no
00:38:48
no it wasn't it wasn't uh is it one of
00:38:50
those things you do for the money or for
00:38:52
the opportunity because Playboy involved
00:38:55
yeah it was it it it there was a part
00:38:58
where there was a
00:39:00
um it was a thing to do at that time
00:39:02
when you go back and look at that era of
00:39:04
how many girls did it and who did it it
00:39:06
was pretty it was an incredible lineup
00:39:08
it was like a who's who yeah celebrities
00:39:11
yeah
00:39:12
um
00:39:13
so let's talk about Rod when first of
00:39:15
all um in preparation for this interview
00:39:17
I downloaded his um book on Audible and
00:39:20
I was I've been listening to some of
00:39:21
that have you have you ever read that
00:39:22
book but I'm guessing people have told
00:39:25
you about what's in it and stuff no like
00:39:27
well no no a little
00:39:29
why too hard or
00:39:32
no because I just
00:39:35
just story really well
00:39:37
yeah but there's as you know within this
00:39:39
situation in life there's there's you
00:39:41
know one perspective another perspective
00:39:42
and then the truth's usually somewhere
00:39:44
in the middle yeah but um
00:39:46
well did you get to pre-read or suggest
00:39:48
any edit sorry no he don't even offer
00:39:49
that no I I mean I remember sitting down
00:39:52
with the like not not did I sit down
00:39:55
with
00:39:56
no I no there was a complete trust there
00:40:00
it wasn't anything wow so
00:40:03
what about the post story oh my God how
00:40:05
hysterical is that
00:40:08
we were we were on a boat and basically
00:40:11
it was the first time that we're dated
00:40:13
and I know you've been seeing it
00:40:15
accordingly
00:40:17
consummated you've been seeing each
00:40:18
other a few weeks and basically the next
00:40:21
morning I was like I actually don't know
00:40:23
which part he read but I was like what
00:40:25
the [ __ ] was on the bed and basically
00:40:27
there was this brown stain and I was
00:40:29
like
00:40:30
I don't know whether he thought of me
00:40:32
both of us thought the same thing and
00:40:34
then it was like
00:40:36
but it didn't smell it smelled delicious
00:40:39
it smelled so good you could eat it
00:40:42
and it was chocolate guys
00:40:45
that's a great story this is so good
00:40:48
that's the best story ever and um I I
00:40:51
mean you know he doesn't say so many
00:40:53
laughs honestly we have so many laughs
00:40:55
we laughed our way through that
00:40:57
relationship and you know people go with
00:40:59
them why did you leave it was like
00:41:00
because I didn't know who I was yeah I I
00:41:02
was so young it was it was it had a lot
00:41:06
to do with where where who was Rachel
00:41:08
what did Rachel like you know all of
00:41:11
that and it wasn't because he's there
00:41:12
was no Suffocation there it was just my
00:41:15
own you know my own and it was probably
00:41:18
way before even him like I mean I left
00:41:21
home at 16. yeah it's um it's really sad
00:41:24
like I was listening to it on a run and
00:41:25
I had to stop because I thought I was
00:41:27
going to start crying because it's like
00:41:29
um it like it doesn't reflect badly on
00:41:31
on you but you you broke his heart so
00:41:33
badly but I think I think most adults
00:41:36
have probably been in a situation where
00:41:37
where you've had your heart broken and
00:41:39
also you've been the person that said to
00:41:40
break another person's heart and both
00:41:42
perspectives are horrible and you can
00:41:44
sort of you know see it from both points
00:41:46
of view and it's um it's not an easy
00:41:48
read or listen it's tough you're like
00:41:51
you feel bad for you and you feel bad
00:41:52
for him yeah it's it's it's one of those
00:41:55
those things that
00:41:58
you sit there and you go is this about
00:42:00
to come out of my mouth you know when
00:42:03
you're about to be break up with someone
00:42:06
that you actually really love yeah so he
00:42:08
according to me is reading like an
00:42:09
architecture magazine or something
00:42:10
because he's looking at some home
00:42:11
renovations and he's asking you about
00:42:13
Cabinetry benches or whatever yeah and
00:42:16
you say that under your breath something
00:42:17
like I don't think I'll be there no yeah
00:42:19
so how long before that had you sort of
00:42:22
been in the departure Lounge
00:42:24
like a few months or uh no like it was I
00:42:28
I don't I don't like why did you why did
00:42:32
you vocalize it at that point because
00:42:34
you can't keep something like that um
00:42:36
you know you you just can't you can't I
00:42:39
can't like I said to you I've really
00:42:41
gone from my heart and so from that
00:42:43
point you go oh is it the way I'm
00:42:45
feeling or isn't it you know is it or
00:42:47
isn't it
00:42:48
um and then when you do you just go I
00:42:51
need to bring this up now to have this
00:42:52
conversation you know and how do you
00:42:54
start a conversation like that I can't
00:42:56
imagine what you were feeling at that
00:42:57
point because you know as soon as those
00:43:00
words are out of your mouth nothing's
00:43:01
going to be the same ever again yeah and
00:43:03
as you can see right now I'm breaking
00:43:05
into a menopause sweat because I'm just
00:43:07
like literally thinking of the whole
00:43:09
thing which shows you that menopause
00:43:14
because
00:43:15
um it was hard because
00:43:19
this is someone you love this is
00:43:21
someone's kids you've you've shared and
00:43:25
still to this day with the thought of
00:43:28
how I said that and how I still look
00:43:32
back and go how the how do I rack up the
00:43:36
courage to break up with somebody I love
00:43:39
because I didn't know who I was like
00:43:41
where is that confusion store what is
00:43:43
that you know and sometimes you've just
00:43:46
got to say things
00:43:48
you have to be in that truth of that
00:43:50
moment and go I don't know where I am
00:43:53
and I have to take that risk and that's
00:43:56
what life is you know like you have to
00:43:58
take that risk of like
00:44:01
I can't miss this person around either
00:44:04
you know I can't pretend I'm in love
00:44:06
like I can't pretend I'm not going to go
00:44:08
through my life pretending I'm in love
00:44:10
with somebody or not love with somebody
00:44:12
or I've got this on my mind because it
00:44:14
wasn't a question of like whether I love
00:44:15
him of course I loved him and still do
00:44:18
love him dearly not that's not for
00:44:20
people to take out of context either and
00:44:22
but at the same time like I had to come
00:44:25
with the truth of like I don't know
00:44:27
where this is at and I need the space to
00:44:29
figure this out that's what it was and
00:44:31
then obviously ended up in a in in
00:44:35
separating in divorce if you took a
00:44:37
while to divorce I didn't yeah we did
00:44:39
yeah yeah yeah and also you know like
00:44:43
seeing um
00:44:46
Renee
00:44:48
um through that time I mean held with
00:44:51
that so they're like yeah
00:44:54
still very very young yeah so the whole
00:44:57
thing was just really
00:44:59
it was interesting but we were we always
00:45:02
stayed connected and and spoke and as
00:45:05
hard of of a time it was but at the same
00:45:08
time like
00:45:10
I look at Renee and Liam
00:45:12
and
00:45:14
at that time I know when I when I broke
00:45:17
up my whole life would be obviously I
00:45:20
would have to remain working because
00:45:22
that's what I did to support myself but
00:45:25
also my life would remain around the
00:45:27
fact that
00:45:28
I'm going to make sure that the kids
00:45:31
it's about their life what they want to
00:45:33
do like be into you know Renee was into
00:45:36
dance Liam into hockey Renee into soccer
00:45:38
and it wasn't about at that time there
00:45:41
was obviously touring of getting into
00:45:43
they were getting into that age where
00:45:45
they needed to be the be in school or
00:45:47
they were on getting tutored and being
00:45:49
on planes flying around so there was
00:45:51
that pit so there were lots of things
00:45:53
and it worked out for the best you know
00:45:55
and you know writers in an incredible
00:46:00
human being he was definitely a huge
00:46:03
love of my life and I I love him and
00:46:06
stand by him and everything he does he's
00:46:08
a beautiful wife and they have amazing
00:46:11
children all those children are so
00:46:13
deeply connected to all of us there's
00:46:16
there's a lot of love there so how lucky
00:46:19
am I you know I mean as much as I
00:46:22
haven't actually been in a relationship
00:46:24
for a very very long time but is it by
00:46:26
choice or I don't know it just kind of
00:46:28
happens that way yeah I remember I was
00:46:30
on the psychic who told me I wouldn't be
00:46:32
in a relationship for five years
00:46:34
is up now but you know was that Tyler
00:46:37
Henry you went on that oh really it's
00:46:38
like exactly five years
00:46:41
done now come on
00:46:43
so do you do you think you've been Lucky
00:46:45
in Love or unlucky in love oh lucky
00:46:48
because I always you know I my heart's
00:46:51
always open to love like always at the
00:46:54
same time
00:46:56
um
00:46:58
I mean especially since when my mum died
00:47:00
that's funny because that's when it kind
00:47:02
of closed off I would say as far as
00:47:06
you know how
00:47:08
important she was in my life and
00:47:11
actually when I really reflect on it how
00:47:13
much
00:47:14
I left home at 16 and then I was gone a
00:47:17
lot of the time I would see her but
00:47:19
really how much she was a huge such a
00:47:22
big effect on my life and I'm a huge
00:47:24
part of my involved and hugely involved
00:47:26
in my life but how much I didn't spend
00:47:28
with her yeah has been really something
00:47:30
that's played on my mind for the last
00:47:32
couple of months
00:47:34
um yeah you're you're late teens and and
00:47:36
20s where I'm unbelie like everything
00:47:38
was accelerated so you're married at 21
00:47:40
a mum at 23 22.
00:47:44
and then set in return that's when I
00:47:47
broke up funnily enough everyone who
00:47:48
knows that sat in return 27-28 When the
00:47:51
[ __ ] hits a fan what were you doing
00:47:53
27-28 oh
00:47:55
um I wasn't me I was just working radio
00:47:57
in Palmerston North but I was a mess I
00:47:59
was a complete mess yeah it's something
00:48:00
comes along on that they call it satin
00:48:03
return it like literally shoves your
00:48:06
whole you go who am I what am I doing
00:48:08
where am I going with my life and that's
00:48:10
exactly what happened to me when I broke
00:48:12
up with Ruth Rod at that time yeah
00:48:15
but mommy yeah she was
00:48:17
yeah I want to get into your
00:48:19
relationship with your mum but um first
00:48:20
of all on Rod so one of one of my
00:48:23
favorite well why are you laughing
00:48:26
nice
00:48:29
he is
00:48:33
one of the most funniest human beings
00:48:35
you must have interviewed it no I've
00:48:37
never interviewed him but I um uh
00:48:39
whenever I see an interview with him
00:48:40
he's he's charismatic and he's funny and
00:48:42
he's Charming like I can see why you
00:48:44
fell in love I feel like he's one of
00:48:45
those people where you don't see you
00:48:48
when you were 21 you don't see an old
00:48:50
man looking in front of you you just see
00:48:51
this funny cheeky charismatic
00:48:54
yeah man I think that's you've hit the
00:48:58
nail on the head because that's how I
00:49:00
see people I don't see a lot of what's I
00:49:03
mean of course you have the chemistry of
00:49:05
how someone looks and all the rest of it
00:49:06
but ultimately like it is that
00:49:10
I mean he's so charismatic
00:49:13
Ally was he really into the is he into
00:49:14
the model trains you didn't find that a
00:49:17
little weird no
00:49:20
like how badly is he into the model
00:49:22
trains is it Renee
00:49:25
dead in the trains
00:49:29
like is it true when he goes on tour
00:49:30
like he has like a second hotel room
00:49:32
where no he loves his trains he loves
00:49:35
his dreams doesn't he he loves his
00:49:37
dreams
00:49:40
he loves it I just think it's great he's
00:49:42
very meticulous he's very very
00:49:44
meticulous with them
00:49:46
yeah
00:49:48
who how was your what did you think of
00:49:51
your child died
00:49:53
okay
00:49:57
if you don't want to be on camera that's
00:49:59
that's fun I read some interviews um
00:50:01
with about Renee and she was like quite
00:50:03
wise and you talk about how when you're
00:50:06
when you're a kid at school and people
00:50:08
ask what your dad does you just say he's
00:50:09
an entertainment or something and not
00:50:11
elaborate any further than that
00:50:16
listen to you guys like listen to what
00:50:19
their Viewpoint of it is because I
00:50:20
haven't really it's a it's a pretty
00:50:23
pretty crazy ringing that you've had
00:50:25
I've never met your brother but I've met
00:50:27
you now and you both seem you're more
00:50:28
you seem very normal like very normal
00:50:31
and grounded and I suppose that's got
00:50:32
that's a lot to do with your Rachel but
00:50:34
it's got to be a reflection on Rod as
00:50:35
well I guess
00:50:36
yeah like they honestly he's just such a
00:50:39
family person isn't he he's just he's
00:50:41
got a big heart and just he's he's
00:50:44
really I know some people go probably
00:50:46
like wait did you break up with them if
00:50:47
you have so much love for him but again
00:50:49
I think it was you know Rod knows who he
00:50:52
is you'll see that he knows who he is he
00:50:54
knows what he loves he knows and I and I
00:50:57
think yeah I think and Celtic
00:51:00
um the dog mean while the dog still
00:51:01
humping
00:51:02
um I don't know what it was but it just
00:51:04
happened yeah
00:51:06
um it's one of my sorry no thank you
00:51:08
maybe
00:51:11
interview yeah um what were you one of
00:51:14
my favorite rod songs it's not not
00:51:16
actually um has it's a cover from a guy
00:51:18
called Robbie Robertson called Broken
00:51:19
Arrow and it's I don't even know what
00:51:21
the song's about but it's a bloody
00:51:22
beautiful song yeah and you're in the
00:51:24
music video dancing around
00:51:26
um and there was another song about the
00:51:27
same time you you were when you were
00:51:28
with him he sort of had a Resurgence in
00:51:30
his career okay put out an album called
00:51:32
Vagabond heart no he's one of the
00:51:33
biggest artists in the world
00:51:35
um so when how how long was it
00:51:37
afterwards that you'd hear a song like
00:51:38
Broken Arrow or Have I Told You Lately
00:51:40
That I Love You that
00:51:42
I think that you could listen to it
00:51:43
without like crying or feeling sad or
00:51:45
guilt or shame or whatever the emotions
00:51:47
I think that Have I Told You Lately That
00:51:49
I Love You was a really hard one because
00:51:51
obviously that was done on I think MTV
00:51:54
at the time for those who don't know
00:51:55
what MTV was
00:51:56
um
00:51:57
Google it
00:51:58
um
00:52:01
um but I yeah it was it was emptively
00:52:05
unplugged and I think you were side of
00:52:07
stage holding Renee as a baby at the
00:52:09
time yeah it was and and she was she was
00:52:11
in the van and I brought her out to
00:52:13
listen to the song and yeah and and that
00:52:16
he dedicated that song at that time and
00:52:19
that was yeah that would that was hard
00:52:21
so like yeah so I mean he's one of those
00:52:27
artists that's like it's you could be a
00:52:28
I don't know Bloomingdale's on the Grove
00:52:30
or whatever and that song would come on
00:52:31
or I know I've been in this I've been in
00:52:33
a shop where that comes on or when
00:52:39
I swear to you sometimes that happens or
00:52:42
it's just like timing that you know and
00:52:46
I you know whenever I go I'm like going
00:52:48
did that person just put that on or did
00:52:50
that person's just where do you see what
00:52:51
my reaction is going to be and I just
00:52:53
remain Stone Cold
00:52:55
it could have it could have been Stacy's
00:52:56
mom I guess that would have been
00:52:57
marginally worse like that I feel sorry
00:52:59
for the kids but they had to go through
00:53:01
the Stacy's bumper all right what do you
00:53:02
mean you feel sorry for them so that was
00:53:03
the song I thought I'll just do a little
00:53:05
song little little bit music video and
00:53:08
nobody will know and it became like a
00:53:10
massive video yeah it is amazing so yeah
00:53:12
the band's called Fountains of Wayne the
00:53:14
song's called Stacy's mom and it's a
00:53:16
it's a homage to this fantastic movie
00:53:18
from the 80s I think called Fast Times
00:53:20
at Ridgemont High yeah so you just um
00:53:22
duplicating a scene from that in a red
00:53:24
bikini well how old were the kids at the
00:53:26
time
00:53:27
like teens or no no no I think they were
00:53:30
more like 10 like 10 11 that which is
00:53:32
even 10 or 12 which is even worse to be
00:53:34
honest why why is it worse well no
00:53:36
because I didn't think that that anybody
00:53:38
would see it you know you can see the
00:53:42
job thinking of this wasn't gonna be on
00:53:43
top of the kitchen table like in a
00:53:45
corset like taking off my and you know
00:53:47
it was down to the corset and I was like
00:53:48
oh no one's going to see this and then
00:53:50
of course a lot of people saw it and um
00:53:53
you know I guess it's just not something
00:53:55
you want you know
00:53:57
your kids
00:53:59
I don't know it's a moment in your time
00:54:01
and your life and your career and surely
00:54:02
like I would have thought you look back
00:54:04
now from the perspective of um you know
00:54:06
a glowing woman in the early 50s and
00:54:08
think [ __ ] you
00:54:09
[ __ ] you I do now no problem and thank
00:54:12
God the kids are broken on the lake yeah
00:54:14
they have a good laugh over it but I'm
00:54:15
sure at the time yeah all right so so
00:54:18
those those broad songs I have I told
00:54:20
you lately so so when you hear that now
00:54:22
like if that song comes on now like how
00:54:24
do you how do you feel like um it had
00:54:27
like it hits inside like I mean I
00:54:29
definitely have that
00:54:31
um
00:54:32
that
00:54:34
that um you
00:54:36
know it's like that oh I feel like that
00:54:39
off you know that that's that feeling
00:54:41
that's just you know that there's that
00:54:43
Association there
00:54:45
um but there always will be because
00:54:47
that's what happens I think like you
00:54:49
know like the lobster you know you're in
00:54:51
this you're in a same place like we
00:54:54
don't just stop loving you know just
00:54:56
because we can't be together it just
00:54:58
doesn't work like that for me it doesn't
00:55:01
sorry for some of you it might obviously
00:55:03
in the different scenarios obviously
00:55:05
there's some people that just cut off
00:55:06
and it can't work absolutely but for oh
00:55:10
we're just not getting on and there's
00:55:12
there is differences that you cannot be
00:55:15
together but you still love each other
00:55:16
you know that that's it is there's
00:55:19
possibility and I think that you're an
00:55:20
example of it and you know two people
00:55:23
can be adults and and move forward and
00:55:26
meet new people and grow and and it's
00:55:29
the same thing like I mean people go oh
00:55:30
like you go on about Rod but at the same
00:55:32
time I mean you're asking me the
00:55:33
questions but yes yes
00:55:40
I fully get it I I try and be friends
00:55:42
with all of my exes because I the way I
00:55:44
said if I love someone I'll love them
00:55:45
forever yeah they'll always hold a
00:55:47
special place in my house yeah unless
00:55:49
someone does something really that
00:55:51
that's obviously dangerous or traumatic
00:55:53
like that that you know if it's an
00:55:55
amicable split up or even sometimes when
00:55:57
it's not you realize what your part was
00:56:00
or their part and it was and they come
00:56:02
back you you can't help but not love
00:56:04
them every single person I've been out
00:56:06
with I would say hello to and respond to
00:56:09
absolutely yeah have you been in love
00:56:11
since then do you think
00:56:14
yeah for sure if you're going to ask me
00:56:17
with who
00:56:18
um
00:56:20
I don't know
00:56:22
um I think there was a couple of
00:56:24
engagements
00:56:26
no there's one engagement that didn't
00:56:29
happen oh I was at the ice hockey guy
00:56:31
right was he about um look it just
00:56:34
didn't work out and the best thing and
00:56:37
again I literally called him up think
00:56:40
you know and thanked him thank God I
00:56:42
didn't go down that road because it
00:56:43
wouldn't have been raised you know but
00:56:44
did I love him absolutely you know were
00:56:47
there other people that I loved without
00:56:49
a doubt did you this is nothing to that
00:56:53
celebrity website but I if it's then
00:56:55
it's not a big relationship then just no
00:56:57
comment it but did you and Robbie
00:56:58
Williams were you see each other for a
00:57:00
while I can't get in okay
00:57:02
because I read some story online about
00:57:04
um some guy from a band I think it was
00:57:06
Stereophonics he was at a bar with
00:57:07
Robbie Williams and then there was a
00:57:08
thing with him and Rod and oh really
00:57:10
yeah apparently really yeah him and Rod
00:57:12
had a chat and then Robbie was like oh
00:57:14
come on let's get out of here so I
00:57:15
wonder if Rob was like you treated her
00:57:17
right or no I don't think no okay no
00:57:20
we're not getting into that no okay
00:57:22
that's fine
00:57:25
um so should we get into your mum can we
00:57:28
talk about your mum a little bit Yeah
00:57:29
you um
00:57:31
um so your mum passed away in 2018 uh
00:57:35
2017 yeah yeah yeah and you shared um
00:57:38
God you shared some some beautiful and
00:57:40
very personal posts on Instagram at the
00:57:42
time
00:57:43
um yes you and you and your son and um
00:57:46
I'm one of the posts you were you're
00:57:48
both there on sort of beard watch yeah
00:57:50
so you do like chefs and then go home
00:57:51
for a shower and then come back
00:57:54
um yeah what are your Recollections of
00:57:55
that time
00:57:57
um it was
00:57:59
it was first couldn't believe that
00:58:01
obviously she had cancer and then during
00:58:04
that time I was just finishing up to
00:58:06
shooting tour Beauty and
00:58:09
um
00:58:11
then
00:58:13
when it was oh it's so strange I was
00:58:16
actually in Fiji and I was like this
00:58:17
part of me was like I need to go home
00:58:19
and I came back and surprised her and
00:58:21
this is further down my feet and and
00:58:24
Facebook back in 2000 I think 16 and I
00:58:28
walked into the house and
00:58:30
mum couldn't believe I was there
00:58:33
and
00:58:34
she started crying and I went over and
00:58:37
hugged her and I was like oh my God like
00:58:39
you're I can't believe you're you know
00:58:40
so
00:58:41
surprised and she just turned around to
00:58:44
me and she goes I think I have cancer
00:58:45
and so you came home from Fiji on a
00:58:48
hunch just not even on a hunch just
00:58:50
coming to surprise you because it's so
00:58:51
close but there was this feeling that I
00:58:53
had in Fiji that I was like I have to go
00:58:55
home because I just yeah I'm so close
00:58:57
here and I surprised her because I you
00:59:00
know we don't usually surprise her like
00:59:02
that and I walked in and she was like oh
00:59:04
my God Rachel and I actually cut the
00:59:06
video off in Facebook because that's
00:59:08
when she said I think I have cancer and
00:59:09
I was like what are you talking about we
00:59:11
don't have cancer in our family you know
00:59:13
and that's the ignorance right you don't
00:59:15
think you have cancer in your family
00:59:17
um and then basically went to the
00:59:20
doctors the next day and I could tell by
00:59:22
the doctor's face at that point it was
00:59:24
not good
00:59:26
um
00:59:27
and then it wasn't until the next you
00:59:29
know the next and I I just going through
00:59:32
that Journey with her and at the time
00:59:34
and I I think maybe some people can
00:59:37
relate to this I don't know whether you
00:59:39
can or you know you've been through
00:59:42
scenarios like this or not but yeah with
00:59:44
friend not not no one as close as a mum
00:59:46
but yeah
00:59:47
and you go who people get into that
00:59:50
state who's going to look after that
00:59:52
because you know it's a journey yeah
00:59:55
going through obviously cancer and
00:59:59
um
01:00:00
and I always said you'll never so many
01:00:02
people who have that disease are in such
01:00:05
truth
01:00:07
you you can't deny their truth they say
01:00:09
what they feel right there's there's so
01:00:12
much truth there yeah and I suppose
01:00:13
that's the um if there is one like
01:00:16
blessing or silver lining with a um like
01:00:18
a disease like cancer is that you do get
01:00:20
the chance to like leave leave nothing
01:00:22
inside no so things that you want to say
01:00:25
that and you don't [ __ ] around like you
01:00:27
don't you don't
01:00:28
like my relationship at that time like I
01:00:31
remember she was in radiation and I was
01:00:33
walking up ahead of her and I was crying
01:00:35
because I was just like I can't like for
01:00:38
me to keep seeing like for her to keep
01:00:40
going through this like I was like and
01:00:42
it was fresh right so your endurance is
01:00:44
building at that time when you're
01:00:46
journeying let alone the person who's
01:00:47
suffering and
01:00:49
and I go turn around here and I go this
01:00:52
really sucks and she goes thank God you
01:00:54
said that it does suck you know it
01:00:56
really sucks and I mean sucks isn't even
01:00:59
relevant to how big of of a situation
01:01:02
that was and we we literally hugged each
01:01:06
other and just started crying and there
01:01:09
was a relief there that it was like okay
01:01:11
let yeah like finally oh it's not like
01:01:14
oh we're gonna got this we're gonna get
01:01:16
through this we're gonna do this yeah
01:01:18
those moments come but they're not
01:01:21
relative because at that time we both
01:01:23
needed to just fall into each other's
01:01:24
arms and surrender to the fact that this
01:01:27
journey is really hard and she had
01:01:28
incredible friends around her that would
01:01:30
have been amazing and and during that
01:01:33
time my head was down and just
01:01:35
concentrated basically on her and then I
01:01:38
kind of left
01:01:39
LA and basically came down and and
01:01:43
looked after her until she until she
01:01:46
died
01:01:47
um was that a special time it was
01:01:50
it was it was really hard because Liam
01:01:52
was going through playoffs at the time
01:01:54
and I went up to
01:01:55
um
01:01:56
London to be with Liam for that time
01:01:59
because the doctors were like it's okay
01:02:01
then came back down and then when I
01:02:04
walked through the door and Renee had
01:02:06
come back down while I was up there to
01:02:08
be with mum too so that it was like this
01:02:11
thing and Renee she was God bless her it
01:02:13
was really it by the stage it had taken
01:02:15
over quite a bit but
01:02:16
you know before I went up to London I I
01:02:20
was in mum's rest home and
01:02:23
because she needed get palliative care
01:02:25
obviously and I said mama said if
01:02:28
there's one thing you regret in your
01:02:29
life what do you regret and she goes
01:02:33
I regret not for the being who I am and
01:02:36
that today still hits because people
01:02:39
need to go and be who they are and not
01:02:42
apologize for it and I think the truth
01:02:45
and authenticity
01:02:47
um and not be shamed of who you are and
01:02:50
and not hide any of that as
01:02:54
is so key in in what your journey is in
01:02:57
Life or be something else you know
01:02:59
because we still care about what people
01:03:01
think and that for me
01:03:04
was like a message
01:03:07
that that's why I basically picked up
01:03:11
sticks after she passed away and went
01:03:13
home back to LA and kind of re-looked at
01:03:16
my life and I was like I've been around
01:03:17
the spiritual world my whole life with
01:03:19
my mother like I'm going to India and
01:03:21
I'm going to you know get through this
01:03:23
this pain of of grief which you never
01:03:26
you know it's always there but
01:03:28
she said such a key thing for
01:03:32
so every human being on this planet you
01:03:35
know that we hear over and over again is
01:03:37
be who you are and and honestly do that
01:03:40
and be that and that changes and and be
01:03:43
in that state of evolution of who you
01:03:45
are and if you want to be a vet when
01:03:47
you're young and you end up teaching
01:03:49
what I mean I can only speak for myself
01:03:50
a yoga when you're older [ __ ] great
01:03:53
do that absolutely and you know what
01:03:55
those Worlds Collide there is no oh I'm
01:03:59
spiritual Namaste and all the rest of it
01:04:01
and then I'm not going off and having
01:04:03
fun and in love with my friends there's
01:04:06
an integration process there and that's
01:04:08
who I want to be and represent for
01:04:10
people like of who I am you know I want
01:04:13
to be
01:04:14
there's those still intense moments
01:04:17
which is exactly what my mum was
01:04:19
incredibly talented incredibly spiritual
01:04:22
very very psychic she made tarot cards
01:04:24
she made it I mean yeah yeah so what did
01:04:28
she um so what did she regret exactly
01:04:30
because I felt like she was she was she
01:04:32
was it was such a like now everyone
01:04:35
talks about that spiritual world as such
01:04:37
like but it was always kind of like oh
01:04:40
don't talk about it I'm talking
01:04:41
mainstream like you know yeah like it's
01:04:44
a bit weird
01:04:46
and now it's not like everybody's kind
01:04:48
of like out of the you know someone will
01:04:50
have a crystal or oh you know I thought
01:04:52
I saw that or I felt that when I was in
01:04:54
a room so none of that's weird and I
01:04:56
think that she
01:04:57
she regretted like
01:04:59
there were parts of it that she she
01:05:01
regretted not fully
01:05:04
stepping into yeah right and it was just
01:05:07
such a powerful moment because
01:05:10
he goes I wanted to be the one who was
01:05:11
in the kimono with the you know with the
01:05:14
long you know thing with the with the
01:05:16
tarot cards and not be worried about
01:05:18
that I think there was also
01:05:20
it also comes down to confusion in your
01:05:24
own self of like you know oh I want to
01:05:27
be the one in kimono with the tarot
01:05:29
cards but then I also need to go and do
01:05:31
a job and I need to do that you know
01:05:32
what I mean it's like oh who am I not
01:05:35
lucrative enough to be a nine to five I
01:05:36
know yeah yeah yeah so I think that you
01:05:39
know that please that plays with all of
01:05:41
us because we are human beings in this
01:05:45
Equitable world like having real life
01:05:47
experiences yet we're still very
01:05:49
connected to what is the spirituality so
01:05:52
I think to those to integrate and not to
01:05:54
be so different or weird needed to
01:05:57
happen and I think with with some very
01:06:00
amazing people Emma Milton actually
01:06:02
being one of them who came along at that
01:06:04
time when I was going through that is I
01:06:07
think a great person who kind of pushed
01:06:09
that forward in in New Zealand and
01:06:12
around the world actually but yeah do
01:06:14
you know what I mean
01:06:15
but I still think no matter what like
01:06:18
there is something
01:06:20
about
01:06:22
like
01:06:23
we're cautiously kind of did you ever
01:06:26
find it on Instagram you're like oh what
01:06:28
should I put out there because what are
01:06:29
people gonna think
01:06:31
all the [ __ ] time and it's terrible
01:06:33
[ __ ] problems terrible this is the
01:06:36
problem
01:06:37
yeah yeah and I I I like to think I'm
01:06:41
feeling comfortable in my own skin but
01:06:42
even is that self-editing aspect yeah um
01:06:45
and I'm and I still even after my mum
01:06:48
told me that you're like sitting there
01:06:49
going oh should I push the button oh
01:06:50
don't worry it's gone now but it
01:06:52
actually was quite funny and quite
01:06:54
relevant right but you're too scared
01:06:56
because people what are people going to
01:06:57
say yeah windy windy and miss you the
01:06:59
most
01:07:02
um I actually was in India like a couple
01:07:05
of weeks ago and for some reason there's
01:07:07
just intense moments that of that
01:07:09
sometimes happen but I I miss her love
01:07:12
her it's something that we all aren't
01:07:14
gonna we don't avoid this scenario
01:07:17
um it's how you know she has inspired me
01:07:21
to live my life courageously again
01:07:25
um and and to continue doing that and
01:07:28
and to just keep evolving and that that
01:07:31
spiritual size and that naughty side
01:07:33
because she was she was kind of naughty
01:07:34
she when she was 16 she used to have a
01:07:37
mini skirt right up to here with her
01:07:39
beautiful big hair and her false
01:07:41
eyelashes on and she was stunning and
01:07:43
she was so she still had that so yeah I
01:07:47
think that's the message from her as as
01:07:48
is that integration of
01:07:52
of being for us being human beings and
01:07:55
also to have that wacky cuckoo side
01:07:57
isn't it those are the ones that we love
01:08:00
being around absolutely yeah because
01:08:03
they're the most authentic I think yeah
01:08:05
um yeah then they Yeah the more it's
01:08:08
funny the more someone doesn't seem to
01:08:09
give a [ __ ] the more you enjoy being
01:08:12
around them yeah because they are being
01:08:14
more authentic yeah yeah there's this
01:08:16
little bit I think in most of us that
01:08:17
holds you back from doing that well I
01:08:19
would say here too is that we're very
01:08:21
concerned because you know people raise
01:08:23
their phones and they take a snap at or
01:08:25
they overhear a conversation and the
01:08:26
next thing this is a problem yet no
01:08:28
one's in on the whole conversation or
01:08:31
the whole snippet so therefore that we
01:08:33
get thrown under the rails and and like
01:08:36
everyone just needs to like for me I'm
01:08:39
just like I I won't live like that and
01:08:41
half truths like well I suppose from
01:08:44
your possession especially like you've
01:08:45
probably been subjected to some gossip
01:08:47
and some stuff over the years that you
01:08:49
know as utter [ __ ] yeah and
01:08:51
completely unfair and unfounded so I
01:08:53
suppose you've got that perspective yeah
01:08:55
but a lot of people with very boring
01:08:56
lives I suppose they get excitement out
01:08:58
of it even if it's not like celebrity
01:08:59
gossip it's just their friends
01:09:01
supposedly kissing someone at work or
01:09:04
whatever yeah yeah but it's still I
01:09:06
agree with you I just don't buy into
01:09:07
that at all no no
01:09:10
I mean I miss her and I
01:09:12
don't know you know but at the same time
01:09:14
I I
01:09:16
for something so hard to happen she's
01:09:20
given me the biggest boot up my ass that
01:09:22
I could ask for and
01:09:24
um yeah
01:09:27
in terms of like the journey you're on
01:09:29
now yeah yeah just
01:09:39
yeah with those words that she said
01:09:41
we're really really relevant yeah yeah
01:09:43
what have you like so you're you're
01:09:46
alive and well have you got any regrets
01:09:51
um not right now no no
01:09:53
I mean real estate in New Zealand is
01:09:57
what what you don't have a house by the
01:10:00
way it was just really spiritual deep
01:10:01
moment and now I talk about my run
01:10:03
regreters is not buying a house in New
01:10:05
Zealand other than that no no prices I'm
01:10:09
like you're joking me that's such a
01:10:11
manual that's a great answer yeah it's a
01:10:13
very light light relief um did you say
01:10:15
you were spiritual your mum was quite
01:10:16
spiritual blood to you like do you feel
01:10:18
her around
01:10:21
um no because the one thing a very
01:10:24
another very good friend of mine who was
01:10:25
around at the time I had all these
01:10:26
amazing women like Michelle Buchanan who
01:10:29
she's a numerologist
01:10:31
um Emma Milton who's very well known for
01:10:33
her books and stuff as well as uh Kim
01:10:36
who was from Wiccan and all these women
01:10:38
came out of nowhere and they were just
01:10:39
around me and I remember ringing up
01:10:41
Michelle and I was like Michelle if
01:10:43
she's so spiritual why can't she just
01:10:45
come and sit on the end of my bed like
01:10:46
where is she why is the tarot card not
01:10:49
flipping out of the deck or wires
01:10:50
because she made tarot cards as well
01:10:52
which are these little cards which have
01:10:54
all these like different meanings for
01:10:55
those would Google it at home as well
01:10:57
just tell everyone to Google it you
01:10:59
don't understand what I'm saying Google
01:11:00
it right you're giving the audience a
01:11:02
lot of homework to do there's a list of
01:11:03
things to Google when you're watching
01:11:05
this interview bring a notebook because
01:11:07
you're gonna have to Google
01:11:09
um
01:11:10
but no and I was like why isn't she
01:11:12
sitting on the end of my bed why didn't
01:11:13
I feel well I'm sleeping an imprint or
01:11:15
you know and
01:11:18
and you know that's just ego just
01:11:20
wanting you to show up yeah one last
01:11:22
visit yeah but the other like I was in I
01:11:25
was actually in Delhi and I had this
01:11:27
overwhelming feeling of just like it
01:11:29
just of
01:11:31
just memories of her and um and I got
01:11:34
and I just every time I go where did she
01:11:37
go like what how did that happen because
01:11:40
it happened so fast like within 18
01:11:42
months she was gone I was like well
01:11:43
which is actually quite slow in some
01:11:45
people's yeah
01:11:48
but um yeah I I don't
01:11:53
I I kind of accept that like I mean this
01:11:55
is what we we all that's our way how we
01:11:59
go out obviously suffering and seeing
01:12:02
someone suffer in that way and many
01:12:05
people that suffer in that way is is a
01:12:08
very
01:12:09
um hard on that that person
01:12:12
um and you know that that was one thing
01:12:14
that I really
01:12:17
um
01:12:18
like I think they're called uh when
01:12:21
people pass Jewelers I think there's um
01:12:23
there's people that help through that
01:12:25
stage but it was
01:12:27
yeah it was uh
01:12:29
I'm just sure I'm sure she's around but
01:12:31
I
01:12:32
for a spiritually connected as I am it's
01:12:35
funny because it really is kind of a
01:12:37
buffing situation where I go I I
01:12:40
actually don't know I haven't had that
01:12:42
experience I haven't had that image of
01:12:44
her and it's actually okay you know it's
01:12:46
actually okay yeah okay where are they I
01:12:49
don't know we none of us know some
01:12:51
friends at my Murray underneath they
01:12:52
lost their daughter Jasmine to cancer in
01:12:54
her early 20s and um she was such a live
01:12:57
wire and such a such a such a presence
01:13:00
and such a spirit they went to a
01:13:01
hypnotist show and they're like if
01:13:03
anyone's going to present themselves
01:13:04
tonight it's going to be Jazz and she
01:13:06
didn't and they're like nah we don't
01:13:08
believe yeah so what do you what do you
01:13:10
think now what do you think happens when
01:13:11
you die is there like an afterlife or
01:13:13
what
01:13:14
what are your thoughts on that
01:13:16
I don't know like I I
01:13:20
there's such a bigger picture to the
01:13:23
whole thing yeah and it's so complex and
01:13:25
you know we're talking about quantum
01:13:27
physics to all sorts of things like you
01:13:30
know from science and I think science is
01:13:32
really starting to catch up with that
01:13:34
spirituality that we are seeing even
01:13:37
with you know different breathing
01:13:38
techniques or something relative to the
01:13:41
spiritual so-called world we are seeing
01:13:44
science kind of backer yeah back some of
01:13:46
it so you know and I think the
01:13:49
dimensions people talk about
01:13:52
two-dimension five dimension like it
01:13:54
just keeps going but I think if we are
01:13:57
able to think it
01:13:58
understand it see it whatever it is
01:14:01
there's there's Limitless possibilities
01:14:03
and I don't know what that looks like
01:14:06
but you can't deny energy
01:14:09
and energy is something that immediately
01:14:11
when we feel connected to someone that's
01:14:14
energetic yeah so to me that is the
01:14:17
proof is energetic response it's not
01:14:20
actually our skin well it is because our
01:14:23
flesh is alive but there's an energetic
01:14:26
response that happens and the same thing
01:14:29
inside like there's this energetic shift
01:14:32
that we can change any possibilities
01:14:34
within our own self with changing our
01:14:37
perception or our Consciousness so I
01:14:40
think energy wise without a doubt
01:14:42
energetically there has to be some kind
01:14:45
of energetic afterlife whatever that is
01:14:48
um it's just bizarre that we come in
01:14:50
these vehicles
01:14:52
Laura I think Laura calls them eth suits
01:14:55
which are right that's Laura that's Andy
01:14:58
Aiden's right yeah in these Earth suits
01:15:01
and yeah we get to perform for a little
01:15:02
bit and then off we go again yeah
01:15:06
um one thing I'd like to touch upon with
01:15:08
um every guest on the podcast is there
01:15:09
like mental health how's how's your
01:15:12
mental health it's been good over the
01:15:13
years I know you're incredibly spiritual
01:15:15
so you obviously um I I was when I was
01:15:19
growing up when I was
01:15:21
uh young I actually ended up in therapy
01:15:25
quite a bit and what age are we talking
01:15:27
oh yeah like like pre-model oh yeah way
01:15:31
before young like in the tens 11s oh so
01:15:34
this is my therapy is reasonably
01:15:35
reasonably normal now not L.A normal but
01:15:38
it's getting there yeah but this was not
01:15:40
a thing back then I guess in the 80s I
01:15:41
was a very inward child and I took
01:15:45
things really personally
01:15:48
um that's why I said I would always talk
01:15:49
to the animals and stuff because I
01:15:51
thought that they understood me and
01:15:53
that's why I think I had a very close
01:15:54
relationship with my with my mum but
01:15:57
um I just thought everything was
01:15:59
suffering to me it seemed yeah how do
01:16:03
you mean can you elaborate on that I
01:16:04
don't know like I could feel things
01:16:06
right and I felt like that person sad or
01:16:09
that animal sad and like there was deep
01:16:11
sadness and suffering and that it was
01:16:14
not relative to what my family life was
01:16:16
just so everybody knows there was no
01:16:18
suffering my you know we had you know
01:16:21
change to different houses and all that
01:16:23
but my mum was like our anchor like it
01:16:25
was but there was so was it wasn't true
01:16:28
empathy or was it like an imagination
01:16:29
thing well you know empathic like I
01:16:32
remember when I was
01:16:34
um
01:16:34
just before I had my back surgery I was
01:16:36
going through a bunch of stuff as well
01:16:38
and because I've been in and out of
01:16:40
therapy with different therapists
01:16:41
throughout my life yeah yeah and yeah
01:16:44
and it wasn't until actually
01:16:47
I stopped like 15 years ago but I to me
01:16:51
therapy whatever you need to do run
01:16:53
whatever you need to think it's
01:16:55
important to find the way that that what
01:16:58
helps you
01:16:59
um but yeah I was 15 16 I think when I
01:17:03
went to therapy
01:17:05
um
01:17:08
yeah and it wasn't
01:17:10
I don't know like some sometimes it
01:17:13
helps sometimes it doesn't you know it
01:17:14
was
01:17:16
to me it was just part of the process of
01:17:19
life do you know what I mean like
01:17:21
yeah but it wasn't yeah but it wasn't
01:17:23
very not like I guess normal like it's
01:17:26
not the sort of thing you'd tell anyone
01:17:27
about no no no no no but mum could tell
01:17:30
like she was she was very much you know
01:17:32
sensitive to that kind of stuff and then
01:17:35
you know once when I got older there was
01:17:38
in in and out of you know going to
01:17:39
therapists and some therapists were
01:17:42
great somewhere [ __ ] terrible
01:17:45
um and but eventually I have to say like
01:17:51
um for me
01:17:55
yeah it
01:17:57
like
01:17:59
it's a it's a real can of worms I guess
01:18:02
because
01:18:04
I was very very young when I
01:18:06
yeah I had a really I don't know I was
01:18:09
very like the whole childhood thing was
01:18:12
a very inward child
01:18:14
my mum obviously sorry I needed help she
01:18:17
she did that you know she did she got
01:18:20
that
01:18:21
um and then I kind of jumped out of it
01:18:22
then I would start running or start
01:18:25
doing ballet and you know that helped
01:18:30
but you know I think the conversation of
01:18:33
of no matter where you're at or or how
01:18:37
little you think somebody something is
01:18:39
and and you think it's not big enough to
01:18:42
really worry you
01:18:43
will it's big enough to jolt you off
01:18:46
then find the help that you need or or
01:18:49
talk to your friends because you know
01:18:52
you want to be in a place of of
01:18:55
compassion and love and care and feel
01:18:57
safe and nurtured so no matter how
01:19:00
little that thing you think is is little
01:19:02
it's big enough to jolt you off so so
01:19:05
find that care that you need of safety
01:19:09
of being safe and I think that's what
01:19:12
those whether they were right or wrong
01:19:14
they provided safety yeah and and
01:19:16
someone to listen to and I think
01:19:18
sometimes parents
01:19:22
um as much as you have a great
01:19:23
relationship like I did mum was still
01:19:25
great she like you need to talk to
01:19:27
somebody who can listen to you you know
01:19:29
yeah not who can listen to you sorry
01:19:32
that is a different than me because yeah
01:19:35
you know I think it's good yeah
01:19:37
absolutely it is it feels so good so so
01:19:40
the um so the Rachel that we saw like
01:19:42
from 16 onwards who didn't didn't seem
01:19:45
necessarily very in which like she's
01:19:46
very no that's what I mean like was that
01:19:49
a mask
01:19:51
no all of a sudden everything no because
01:19:54
at the time I also remember when I was
01:19:57
modeling actually bring up a good point
01:20:00
I was modeling so much that when I was
01:20:02
done with work
01:20:04
um I would go to the church because I
01:20:06
knew people would be in there
01:20:08
so I could actually sit in the church
01:20:10
and be surrounded by people so I wasn't
01:20:12
alone and then I'd go back and then the
01:20:15
next day I would be leaving to go and do
01:20:16
another shoot or whatever but I would
01:20:18
use the
01:20:20
um a church like a religious place to
01:20:22
actually have that moment of feeling
01:20:25
connected centered with people and
01:20:28
because otherwise what you'd be back in
01:20:30
your hotel room on your own yeah or
01:20:32
something like that yeah so it was funny
01:20:33
that that's what I kind of went to yeah
01:20:37
unbelievable and how are you today you
01:20:40
feeling good today yeah like I just you
01:20:42
know I mean I've obviously I spent a lot
01:20:44
of time in India and and that's created
01:20:46
different tools for me like you know
01:20:48
leaning into some fears that sometimes
01:20:50
that arise like it's it's a completely
01:20:53
different type of I guess therapy of of
01:20:57
looking for things but at the same time
01:20:59
like I said if anything got to a point
01:21:02
where
01:21:03
um it continues and continues I would I
01:21:05
would absolutely ask for help from
01:21:07
somebody now yeah so what is you what
01:21:10
does your day look like now it seems
01:21:11
like you're doing a lot of meditation
01:21:12
and a lot of yoga No I
01:21:15
actually
01:21:16
said on Instagram
01:21:18
a lot of like walking around with cows
01:21:20
and and and talking to them yeah and
01:21:22
talking to them
01:21:24
um no like I I do that but at the same
01:21:26
time like I'm I'm I was just in Jaipur
01:21:28
like I was looking at doing like a
01:21:30
couple of things with with different
01:21:31
like you know creating pajama sets and
01:21:35
like bed wear and all that kind of stuff
01:21:38
um because that's where a lot of cotton
01:21:39
is and obviously making sure it's
01:21:40
ethical as well but um you know I I go
01:21:44
and meditate and then I mean I was very
01:21:47
excited to know that Renee's down here
01:21:50
um obviously I knew Renee was coming
01:21:52
down here so to spend time with her but
01:21:53
spend time with with friends
01:21:56
um but yeah it's not all
01:21:58
um yoga meditation this is what we see
01:22:00
on Instagram it's like oh my God does
01:22:02
she ever get out of the downward dog I
01:22:05
know but I do when I get to India like I
01:22:07
do go into these really you know like
01:22:10
deep Dives and then then come out I do I
01:22:14
do love it you know yeah yeah it makes
01:22:16
you feel good yeah makes you feel good
01:22:18
of uh fallen off the wagon but I did a
01:22:20
TM Transit meditation for a number of
01:22:22
years like 20 minutes in the morning
01:22:23
yeah yeah three minutes in the afternoon
01:22:24
I should get back to it because it felt
01:22:26
really good it was like having a power
01:22:27
nap it does yeah it reboots it and send
01:22:31
us yourself yeah yeah and you're going
01:22:33
to become um a grandmother for the first
01:22:35
time in May
01:22:37
how many times people are going what are
01:22:38
you gonna get called like what are you
01:22:40
what is the baby gonna call you and
01:22:42
stuff no no I know
01:22:47
I feel like you
01:22:48
yeah
01:22:50
yeah so this is your son yeah Liam Liam
01:22:53
and Nicole yeah right yeah does it feel
01:22:55
because I feel like um your daughter
01:22:58
Renee like if she's if she's ever lucky
01:23:00
enough to to get pregnant I feel like
01:23:02
the mum's more involved when it's the
01:23:03
daughter does it feel that way from your
01:23:05
perspective when you know it's your
01:23:07
son's partner having the baby no I just
01:23:09
I I to me as long as Liam and Nicole
01:23:14
like are are happy and and you know
01:23:19
they've been they've known each other
01:23:22
for so long and also you know I I think
01:23:25
to have this it's just amazing honestly
01:23:28
I was in discipline I was just in
01:23:29
disbelief and it and it's beautiful
01:23:31
because I mean the family's big anyway
01:23:34
like I mean Kimberly has Delilah and now
01:23:36
we've got you know Ruby and
01:23:39
and Liam and Nicole but I don't know I I
01:23:42
don't know what the grandma territory
01:23:44
looks like but it's exciting though and
01:23:46
you've you're very young to be a
01:23:48
grandmother as well and Nicole and and
01:23:50
Liam and Tina like all of us are I mean
01:23:53
it's all very close anyway there's
01:23:56
there's just
01:23:57
it just seems like this big family
01:23:59
anyway you know and they have a Nicole
01:24:01
is a big family as well so yeah I don't
01:24:04
know I guess so but at the same time I
01:24:09
you know I feel involved with Liam
01:24:12
anyway but I mean I'm always traveling
01:24:14
too so I'm interested to see how it all
01:24:17
but I blocked off literally the entire
01:24:18
summer because I just want to you know
01:24:21
be there if they need yeah they need me
01:24:23
yeah it's one thing you get off social
01:24:25
media you seem to have um but there is a
01:24:27
big connection between the mother and
01:24:28
daughter I think too yeah absolutely I
01:24:30
think that there is a really important
01:24:32
but at the same time I fully there and
01:24:35
I'm so excited for it do you know if
01:24:38
you're allowed to be at the birth or oh
01:24:40
God I have no idea yeah yeah no I don't
01:24:42
know
01:24:43
um yeah oh that's really exciting from
01:24:46
this is just basing purely on social
01:24:48
media but it seems like you have a
01:24:49
fantastic relationship with both your
01:24:51
kids yeah no though though honestly
01:24:53
they're just amazing I mean we were just
01:24:56
talking about it before it's funny how
01:24:57
things happen because with Liam I was
01:24:59
around like when he was up in Spokane up
01:25:02
to when he was in his his twenties then
01:25:05
he went over there and then now I'm
01:25:06
spinning obviously Renee and I spending
01:25:08
a lot of time together with that so you
01:25:11
know as they are growing different
01:25:12
relationships I'm more the one who's
01:25:15
like I don't want to be like actually
01:25:18
stationed anywhere I just want to follow
01:25:21
them around like I just want to follow
01:25:23
not be annoying but I just want to be
01:25:25
like I'm going to dip into like Liam and
01:25:28
Nicole and the baby and then go and see
01:25:30
Renee and you know whoever when you know
01:25:32
when whatever happens there
01:25:35
um
01:25:36
yeah so I get to I think that's exciting
01:25:39
for me I still I sold my house in 2020
01:25:41
when the covet hit and basically so
01:25:45
you're homeless renting a house all my
01:25:47
houses in storage and so I'm just
01:25:49
floating around so I think that's what
01:25:51
people don't understand either is I
01:25:52
don't actually have the so-called family
01:25:55
house anymore I have like I'm living in
01:25:57
my one bedroom apartment with my
01:25:59
Pomeranian
01:26:01
um following my kids around so that's it
01:26:03
yeah but that paint's a very sad picture
01:26:05
which I think is not a fair reflection
01:26:08
no that's not a sad picture why did you
01:26:12
so did you have like a like how long was
01:26:13
you were you in your last house for was
01:26:15
it like oh my God you raise the kids
01:26:16
yeah raise the kids was that was that
01:26:18
sad or are you not Material oh my God no
01:26:20
no it was really like it was sad it was
01:26:22
our family home but it was just getting
01:26:23
to the point where everybody was
01:26:25
traveling and
01:26:27
um
01:26:28
the dog inside the house and I would
01:26:30
obviously be going and visiting Renee
01:26:32
and Liam and so when I got back from
01:26:34
from being in lockdown in India I um
01:26:39
I just moved into where my sister was
01:26:41
just for the time being and haven't
01:26:42
really left so you know now you know now
01:26:46
I have to kind of at some point make a
01:26:48
decision of where where I want to kind
01:26:51
of
01:26:51
cement myself but at the same time I
01:26:53
don't really want to yeah and like
01:26:55
living simply I mean I'm envious I'm
01:26:58
envious of you I I I I I I feel I
01:27:01
suppose materialistic I I feel like I
01:27:03
always need a base somewhere but I think
01:27:04
it's very courageous what you're doing
01:27:06
just having [ __ ] in storage and other
01:27:08
things they're just things yeah but I
01:27:10
mean I have all my stuff that I love and
01:27:11
in this one bedroom apartment
01:27:13
and make oh my God you know
01:27:16
leave goodbye and I go and see the kids
01:27:19
it's a great situation and the next 30
01:27:22
years of 30 years of your life How's
01:27:23
that gonna look I feel like 15 years of
01:27:25
my life
01:27:32
easy no so what do you know 53 yeah so I
01:27:36
was like how old am I so like I think um
01:27:39
if you can get to get to 80 and still be
01:27:41
in good shape I think that's good
01:27:42
anything after there it's like a gray
01:27:43
area as long as you're still like
01:27:46
absolutely cognitive and you're still
01:27:48
able to physically move I think yeah on
01:27:51
the Assumption you've got another 30
01:27:52
good years yeah how's that going to look
01:27:53
what do you want to do anything you want
01:27:55
to do that you haven't done yet no at
01:27:56
the same time I don't think I'd change
01:27:58
anything right now as far as like you
01:28:00
know going and doing what I want to do
01:28:02
six months of the year obviously that
01:28:03
can be over any months or two weeks or
01:28:06
whatever it is but and then just be able
01:28:08
to be with my kids like that's what I
01:28:10
want like be able to share the the times
01:28:13
that my kids have when they have
01:28:15
families
01:28:17
um and then go on you know go and do the
01:28:19
work that I'm doing as well so I see it
01:28:22
as a is a good thing for for now that's
01:28:25
what it is now as far as a relationship
01:28:27
I don't know if that when that person
01:28:28
comes along then then great yeah do you
01:28:31
think that that like one or I mean that
01:28:34
one true love is still out there I just
01:28:36
think I'm in a menopause right now I
01:28:37
don't know what is it what does that
01:28:40
mean exactly just going into hot sweats
01:28:42
like it's so good I've only done two
01:28:44
since we've been filming
01:28:46
so that's not bad and especially that
01:28:48
we're talking about emotional stuff so
01:28:49
it tends to rise with emotion but um I
01:28:53
am lucky I just kind of and I think also
01:28:55
the yoga for me helps um because I know
01:28:58
when that that it's just like heat
01:29:00
rising in your body and I'm lucky that's
01:29:03
all I have so
01:29:05
what are the other symptoms what have
01:29:07
you got to look forward to
01:29:10
everyone at home get your notebook out
01:29:13
especially men
01:29:16
sorry you have to pardon my ignorance
01:29:18
here no but it's really fascinating yeah
01:29:21
yeah you should definitely get a doctor
01:29:23
who is informed on the subject because
01:29:26
women would be craving especially for a
01:29:28
man to understand it too I think it's
01:29:30
nice because I think especially with the
01:29:33
Heat and the the rapid emotions that can
01:29:37
when I it first started happening to me
01:29:39
I was like oh that's a really fast
01:29:41
emotion to feel and you know with with
01:29:44
the
01:29:47
tools that I have with with what I've
01:29:49
learned I've learned to kind of calm
01:29:52
that down but the sweats up and it's not
01:29:54
a great time because during covert you
01:29:56
don't want to be sitting this wedding
01:29:57
because people are like do you have a
01:29:59
fever especially on a plane I know where
01:30:03
has it sort of changed your personality
01:30:05
in a way do you think no I don't think
01:30:07
so no no do you think so no absolutely
01:30:09
not just sweat
01:30:14
exactly that's like Divine timing that
01:30:17
I'm actually but to be honest with you I
01:30:19
sweat a lot you know I'm a sweater
01:30:21
anyway so yeah and um and how do you
01:30:23
feel about aging like I I feel like
01:30:25
you're very good with aging yeah and
01:30:27
you've done TV shows about it and
01:30:29
um but you've been from that moral
01:30:30
background I suppose it's something
01:30:31
everyone's sort of curious about do you
01:30:34
have you had any work done or just stuff
01:30:35
for TV no like I I did you know BOTOX
01:30:40
for TV yeah for yeah
01:30:42
Beauty like there's definitely you know
01:30:45
situations that I look at now and go
01:30:48
okay like do your eyelids need to start
01:30:51
being like you know when does that start
01:30:54
happening you know sometimes around my
01:30:57
neck like you kind of get cracked but
01:30:58
this is all just this is all just that
01:31:01
stage of of awareness that we have and
01:31:03
we see so much on social media of like
01:31:06
and that now a woman who's really done
01:31:10
filler and Botox and different things
01:31:12
like they're happy with what they're
01:31:13
doing but it's also become somewhat the
01:31:15
norm too right yeah
01:31:17
um but I don't know I think again you
01:31:20
have to do what makes you happy you know
01:31:22
you have to do what makes you happy you
01:31:25
know if you want to tell people great if
01:31:26
you don't want to tell people then great
01:31:27
too it's nobody's business
01:31:29
um but I mean for now
01:31:32
um but I I definitely go oh you know
01:31:34
what shall I do I try and keep things
01:31:36
really simple with my with my beauty
01:31:39
regime as far as
01:31:41
products and stuff but as far as you
01:31:45
know food keeping it simple very not a
01:31:48
lot of sugar keeping away from all the
01:31:50
you know the the Wheats and stuff as
01:31:52
much as I can but again with diet like
01:31:54
someone will be like oh you said that on
01:31:56
on you know the podcast or whatever but
01:31:58
sometimes I'll have pasta sometimes I'll
01:32:00
go and eat you know if a fish sometimes
01:32:04
you know or a piece of chicken or
01:32:06
whatever
01:32:07
um it just depends and then sometimes it
01:32:09
just all falls away you know I don't eat
01:32:11
meat whatsoever yeah what if anybody's
01:32:12
craving yeah you're not much of a
01:32:14
drinker are you no I did a lot of that
01:32:16
did you think
01:32:18
yeah yeah
01:32:20
yeah that was those were some fun times
01:32:22
the 20s and 30s definitely had my my
01:32:25
moments yeah amazing I think you've got
01:32:27
to get out of your system yeah I mean
01:32:30
yeah it was it was fun it was fun and
01:32:34
what about um what about exercise now do
01:32:35
you still run at all
01:32:37
no because I had back surgery so I had
01:32:39
s1l4 surgery on my back
01:32:42
um part of me would love to because do
01:32:45
you know what the part I love about
01:32:46
running
01:32:47
that struggle at like 15 15 to 20
01:32:52
minutes and then all of a sudden you
01:32:54
push through and you get to that stage
01:32:56
where you just could go forever and ever
01:32:59
and ever that moment to me that struggle
01:33:02
is just like anything we do in life that
01:33:05
you know you're you're trying to get
01:33:07
like
01:33:08
you know your pace corrected and then
01:33:10
the Mind goes and then the breath goes
01:33:12
and then this goes and then your piece
01:33:14
gets off and then all of a sudden like I
01:33:16
said between that isn't it between 15
01:33:18
and 20 minutes I guess depending on how
01:33:19
fat you are yeah that push through that
01:33:22
happens then all of a sudden that
01:33:24
expansion happens and or you you could
01:33:26
run forever yeah it's almost like a flow
01:33:28
State oh my God but even exactly even on
01:33:30
the days when that doesn't happen like
01:33:32
you never get home and think I regret
01:33:34
doing that no you always feel so much
01:33:35
better so what do you do to keep fit
01:33:36
back
01:33:38
why can't you run
01:33:42
run retrain yeah I don't
01:33:45
I would really love to maybe it's
01:33:47
something that I should look back into
01:33:48
because I mean it but I do do a lot of
01:33:50
walking a lot of up and down a lot of
01:33:52
hiking
01:33:54
um I'll do yoga and I also love doing um
01:33:56
like Renee's got me into
01:33:59
um body sculpt society which is like you
01:34:01
do dancing as well I think it's always
01:34:03
good to have a good dance and a good
01:34:04
laugh too so any of those types of
01:34:06
workouts as well weights is also
01:34:08
important too for like someone who's
01:34:11
older waiting I know how does this
01:34:15
happen right
01:34:16
um but when it was yeah do you have a
01:34:18
moment every now and then when you look
01:34:19
in the mirror and you're like oh [ __ ]
01:34:20
that's me
01:34:21
to vote like can we delete that photo
01:34:25
okay in the morning you still used to
01:34:28
look fabulous I reckon I think you look
01:34:30
great but great I think you're aging
01:34:31
absolutely beautifully thank you so are
01:34:33
you oh [ __ ]
01:34:35
oh some days I'll look in the mirror and
01:34:38
it's like oh [ __ ] that is me age a lot
01:34:41
easier like they don't wrinkle
01:34:44
I don't know I don't know if I agree
01:34:46
with that he's feeling uncomfortable
01:34:47
yeah hey
01:34:49
um Ed has been so wonderful having you
01:34:51
having you over today it's amazing
01:34:53
you're like you're an absolute New
01:34:54
Zealand treasure at the beginning I
01:34:56
mentioned um the thing uh the the
01:34:58
celebrity walk here at Victoria Park
01:35:00
just over the road like you're on there
01:35:03
amongst some iconic kiwis a lot of
01:35:05
there's a lot of who are still alive but
01:35:07
a lot of who are dead now like Sir
01:35:09
Edmund Hillary Dame Fina Cooper Rob
01:35:11
Muldoon Barry Trump Peter Blake and it's
01:35:14
amazing it's like you like I I don't
01:35:18
think I can paint a picture successfully
01:35:19
enough for the younger listeners and
01:35:21
viewers to this podcast about just how
01:35:23
famous you are the only thing comparable
01:35:25
is probably lured recently different
01:35:27
sort of career path in terms of music
01:35:29
but that's the level of Fame we're
01:35:31
talking it was um what you went through
01:35:33
is crazy yeah I I hope well I I'm
01:35:38
looking at maybe writing a book I've
01:35:39
been really reluctant to do that
01:35:42
um or an audio or a Kindle or whatever
01:35:44
your other
01:35:45
so awesome
01:35:49
you've done a book hey you've done like
01:35:50
a tour of Judy book yeah yeah give her a
01:35:53
book about your life why not I I think
01:35:55
I'm ready to do it now I think I'm
01:35:57
definitely ready to do that and I
01:35:59
actually want to do two because I think
01:36:01
the spiritual journey is really because
01:36:03
that's got a lot of comedy in it too you
01:36:05
know it has a lot of
01:36:07
yeah it so I think to I'd like to do two
01:36:09
different types of books
01:36:11
um but yeah I think I'll do that do that
01:36:14
soon but I
01:36:16
yeah
01:36:17
I'm I'm just really grateful and I think
01:36:19
that the
01:36:21
the New Zealand I don't know whether
01:36:24
this is weird to say but I think the
01:36:25
support of New Zealand really May
01:36:28
uh like who you are because there's the
01:36:32
support of New Zealand there you know I
01:36:34
I don't know it it I it was just
01:36:38
weird timing I guess or or the timing
01:36:41
was
01:36:42
what happened I I mean I still was
01:36:44
getting the bust doing modeling you know
01:36:47
so it's it's the whole thing is just
01:36:49
bizarre when you look back from this
01:36:51
quiet inward person who like I said was
01:36:53
was was having her moments and then like
01:36:55
16 hat it was like someone came along
01:36:58
and like
01:36:59
threw the sheets off and was like this
01:37:01
is a completely different human being
01:37:03
like honestly it was like that and I did
01:37:05
have I'll tell you what I did have I had
01:37:08
toxoplasmosis and the only way the
01:37:11
doctors said like you'd have to stay in
01:37:13
bed for the next nine months my mum goes
01:37:15
no way you're going to a naturopath took
01:37:18
me to a to a herbalist got me on this
01:37:21
disgusting tea that I drunk for at least
01:37:23
three months got better she also said it
01:37:26
was I think it was this amazing Indian
01:37:28
doctor and she said you need him it was
01:37:31
called a metamorphic massage and she
01:37:34
started massaging my feet she was a
01:37:36
ballerina too
01:37:37
and I was like oh you know what that
01:37:40
mum's like this is what I grew up with
01:37:41
the next thing I'm she goes in 10 days
01:37:45
you're going to see something happen
01:37:47
I swear to you I don't know what
01:37:49
happened to me but I was like this quiet
01:37:51
in which I all of a sudden I was
01:37:53
outspoken don't talk to that thing like
01:37:56
that no that's you don't you do that
01:37:58
like completely outspoken and the next
01:38:01
thing I was you know and like working in
01:38:04
a modeling agency amazing how was that
01:38:06
yeah so those scenario that was a bit
01:38:08
weird that was a little bit of the
01:38:10
woo-woo part of the story but it's good
01:38:13
that you can recognize the way we're in
01:38:15
parts of the story yeah like who is that
01:38:17
I don't even know what it Google that to
01:38:18
me so much homework how does a
01:38:22
metamorphic massage I've got no idea I'm
01:38:25
going to be Googling that as well I
01:38:26
don't even know whether we should put
01:38:27
that out there
01:38:29
um
01:38:32
a bit about Robbie Williams maybe hey
01:38:35
Rachel Hunter thank you so much you are
01:38:38
an absolute
01:38:39
um National Treasure and it's been
01:38:41
wonderful having us so are you thank you
01:38:43
yeah thanks for sharing I really
01:38:45
appreciate your dog
01:38:47
he's funny he's exhausted
01:38:50
he's tired I love you so much thank you
01:38:53
very much thank you
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