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all right what is up fellow tech timber
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sailors hope your seas are smooth
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september
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there we go what's up uh tech member
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crusaders how's it going
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welcome to the wayform podcast uh we're
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your hosts i'm marquez and i'm andrew
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and today's episode we have like a whole
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lot of eevee news we've got some
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announcements some disasters some just
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pure head scratchers uh we kind of guy
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have it all and then apple officially
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announcing some right to repair steps
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they're taking which kind of blew all of
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our heads off really interesting yeah
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but but but first
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marquez is big mad
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why are you mad marquez i am uh i don't
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know if i'd say i'm mad as much as i'm
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just a little bit uh
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confused i don't know i just so okay we
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got the news this week that
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staples center
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the iconic
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you know middle of la arena host the
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lakers and the clippers and i'm sure
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like four or five other teams
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will be rebranded
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i believe starting next year
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as
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crypto.com arena so this crypto.com
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company
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inked a deal they'll be the the name of
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the arena for the next 20 years and i
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was like i was looking it up i was like
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wow that's a that's a long time
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obviously staples center is probably one
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of the most iconic in the states
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and uh
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i was so curious how much that cost and
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it's 700 million dollars the only reason
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i'm confused is like
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i don't know crypto.com doesn't seem
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like a great name for an arena it's the
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crypto.com arena yeah like in terms of
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just catchiness and rolling off the
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tongue staple center is way easier way
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more iconic i mean yeah you mentioned
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it's it's built to the iconic-ness of it
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yeah i was thinking about this i was
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like
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here's my slightly lukewarm take all
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arena names are pretty bad
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but we've gotten used to them over time
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because we say them so often like i've
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seen i've pulled up right now just a
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list of a bunch of them in the us just
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for nba teams
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the milwaukee bucks play at pfizer forum
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forum uh we've got smoothie king arena
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that's in the nba we've got
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the cavs play at rocket mortgage field
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house like nobody really wants to say
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the company names out loud but staples
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is a company and they've paid for their
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name to be on the side of the arena and
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tons of memories have been made with
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iconic lakers teams especially in
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staples center and i still think people
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are going to call it staples center
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that's the funny
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but
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there is going to be like you know
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there's a i think someone's already
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tweeted like a render of like that
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helicopter shot at the beginning of an
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mba broadcast where like
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it it's going to be on the on the front
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on the top on the sides like i i was
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saying i went to crypto.com today for
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the first time ever i didn't know about
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them so it's working and i'm kind of
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surprised this is the first
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crypto company because oh i bet a lot of
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them have 700 million dollars this is
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the first time we've seen a crypto
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company put their name on an arena like
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this yeah i was kind of talking to david
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about how crypto.com we didn't know it
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was a website and i think it's one of
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those sites that suffers from having too
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good of a domain name it's like too
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general it's too broad that crypto.com
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just feels like
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too easy like it doesn't it's not catchy
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it's good i guess it's only it's it
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feels generic but it's kind of what they
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are it's like they're a crypto wallet
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and a crypto trading service like
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coinbase is kind of similar
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but it's a coinbase is like a unique
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name it's a little more specific yeah
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crypto is just now this all-encompassing
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internet currency that they just like
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crypto.com just feels and you have to
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put dot com because if it was just
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crypto arena that sounds better but
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that's not going to send anybody to your
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website right which is the biggest issue
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in terms of
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like advertising it which is what
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they're paying for i think they won the
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seo battle i just yeah it's a weird name
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also one of my favorite hot takes was
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like a lot of urls aren't around for a
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very long time like they expire
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companies are born and die quickly do we
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think crypto.com will still work in 20
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years i can only and i imagine i don't
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you know crypto's pretty young we'll see
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but this is uh that's i'm not mad i'm
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just like yeah a little thrown off by
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that i think crypto will be around there
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whether crypto.com is one of the places
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doing it in 20 years although i'm sure
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all these places try and lock up
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something so long to get somewhat of a
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discount and then oh yeah uber i'm sure
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plenty of people break contracts at a
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certain point if it goes to funky i
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wonder if they pay in advance to 700
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million or if they pay it like every
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year they exist or if they'll be in debt
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who knows i don't know how these deals
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work i don't know how it works i i think
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the biggest thing here that you
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mentioned was that it is still the same
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building which people just have known as
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the staples center for so long like i've
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seen nhl arenas switch but it's usually
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when a building goes down and becomes
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a whole new
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arena much easier because you're not
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referencing specifically that staples
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center will be called staples center for
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the rest of its life until it's a new
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arena yeah until everyone who who knew
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about staples center is dead
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uh
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apple right to repair we got to talk
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about this this one caught us by
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surprise this morning it definitely did
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i i am fascinated by this and i've been
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as we record this which is on a
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wednesday which you know you listen to
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the podcast on friday i've been sort of
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organizing my thoughts into a potential
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video so that may be up by the time you
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see this um but yeah we can sort of
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summarize the announcement and then our
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thoughts about it sure we get this apple
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newsroom press release titled apple
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announces self-service repair program
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which is well okay apple's notoriously
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been against right to repair so what is
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this program so apple will allow
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customers like you and me customers who
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are comfortable with completing their
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own repairs access to apple genuine
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parts and tools available first to
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iphone 12 and iphone 13 lineups and soon
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to be followed by mac computers
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featuring m1 ships
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and self-service repair will be
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available early next year in the us and
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then expand to additional countries
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throughout 2022
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the initial phase of the program will
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mostly be focused on
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commonly serviced modules such as
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iphone's display battery and camera the
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ability for additional repairs will be
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available later next year
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so it goes on to explain all these
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different details but there's a lot in
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those first two paragraphs there that is
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for sure quickly being digested but i
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want to go through each of them because
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i think there's a lot yeah first of all
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we did a video already on write to
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repair if you haven't seen it i
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recommend watching it i'm pretty biased
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but i think it's pretty good we have
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some interviews we talked to louis
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rossman we have a whole breakdown on a
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bunch of different companies including
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apple but apple's one of the biggest
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companies in the world one of the most
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uh influential consumer-facing so when
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apple changes a stance and makes a pro
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right to repair move like this not only
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is it big for apple but it's big for the
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ripples it sends through the industry
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so the first detail is
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they're starting with iphone 12 and
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iphone 13 lineups soon to be followed by
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m1 max yeah so you know a lot of people
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who are probably hoping to get repairs
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done are probably on older iphones and
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older macs fine i imagine those were not
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built with
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uh
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commonly accessed repairs by normal
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people in mind yeah not in mind not that
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they couldn't be done but clearly not
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when apple was thinking of doing this
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because this has clearly been something
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they've thought of doing for a little
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bit which is probably showing in the
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internals yeah to me this says we've
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been thinking about this since at least
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iphone 12 and m1 max so that's good
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um and actually if you look at
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some of the tear downs of like this 60
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inch macbook pro or the 14 inch
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they look a little more friendly at
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least for battery repairs there's like
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tabs under the batteries now and there's
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a couple less screws involved to get in
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yeah which is nice i mean we opened our
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first in that right to repair video we
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opened an iphone 12 i believe it was
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right which is the first iphone i've
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ever opened and and opening that on the
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inside felt like a render it was just so
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neat and everything and i mean i've only
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opened up a couple phones
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none of them i've successfully repaired
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so i'm not claiming to be an expert here
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but like
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that internal looked like
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almost inviting almost like it would be
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fun to play with yeah and i mean you got
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to know what you're getting yourself
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into for sure so basically what's
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happening is individuals like you and me
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paying customers are being added to the
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group of people including uh repair
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shops that have access to these
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documents and parts
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so if your screen breaks for example on
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your phone you have the choice
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to go to an apple store and have them
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repair it however much that costs or to
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go to an independent repair shop and
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have them repair it however much that
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costs
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or your new option is go look online at
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the guides yourself and decide you want
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to do it yourself order those parts and
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the guides straight from apple repair it
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yourself send the parts back to apple
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maybe even get a little bit of credit i
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believe back on your account for the
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stuff you send back for them to recycle
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that's what they said and then you did
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it yourself on your own time on your own
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dime which is a very new option it is
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and it does say in there that they
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provide some sort of a like service a
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repair kit manual that i think they want
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you to read first and and decide if
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you're comfortable doing this before you
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enter in for the
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the parts like get the parts mailed to
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you and to actually do it yourself
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and like you said there it does say that
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they're offering some sort of credit for
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returning the parts now i'm assuming
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that means tools that they send i'm
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assuming it means any parts that you
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replace so that they can properly
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recycle them yeah and that's great
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because apple has been this company that
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has talked a lot about the environment
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lately but it always felt
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super hypocritical when
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you're so stingent on right to repair
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and reusing phones and refurbishing
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phones and basically using phones as
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long as possible and buying new products
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because that's kind of the worst thing
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that can happen like cool your boxes are
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half the size and you don't include a
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charging brick anymore but
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really the phones being able to use as
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long as possible and recycling them is
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what's the biggest impact we can see
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yeah so overall i think a good change on
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the surface but there's still more
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details right so
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um
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the other thing i want to look at the
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initial phase of the program will focus
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on the most commonly serviced modules
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such as the iphone's display battery and
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camera yeah now on one hand that's most
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iphone repairs yeah i'm pretty sure like
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screen and battery are probably top one
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and two right i bet that's like almost
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eighty percent of repairs yeah so that
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makes sense yeah in theory sure
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but this also like if you talk to louis
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rossman which we did in our video or if
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you ask independent repair shops like
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what their biggest problem with the
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program is a lot of them will say like
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they're so strict about what you
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actually have certified access to repair
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versus all the other stuff
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so you know ports
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buttons storage storage face id
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notoriously if you repaired or if you
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replaced a display with a non-apple
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a genuine part yeah and it was like old
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touch id too yeah they would disable
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face id or touch id they recently
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rectified that which is nice but like
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now if you want to replace like your
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port gets loose or water damaged or
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something you just want to replace that
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that's not one of the things covered by
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apple they don't have manuals or parts
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or anything for that you're still got to
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go back to the apple store in apple's
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world so that hasn't really changed
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so again i think it's great that if my
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display cracks or if my battery is
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getting old i can do that myself but
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that's a that's a pretty important note
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which is like this isn't changing for
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independent repair shops it's still true
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yeah and like i think there's clearly an
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optimistic side of reading this and a
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pessimistic side of reading this and i
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think taking a little from both is
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really good like if we're talking pure
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optimism like this is a step in the
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right direction the fact that apple's
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even even
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using the term like repairability and
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stuff like that it's just huge and
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something like i said none of us
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expected we came in this morning we were
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going to record the bottles of april
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fool's yeah this article pops up and
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we're like okay this is now the number
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one thing we're talking about today yeah
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so it's interesting the pessimistic side
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is
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this still feels a little bit like this
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is a small first step because how many
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people in the the world of one of the
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most popular phones in the us at least
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how many of those people want to make
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these repairs themselves and that's
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essentially what this is opening up that
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is
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very very little but that's always been
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the argument so the fact that this step
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happened at all is really interesting
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yeah and i think that i think i was just
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gonna say the question i had right away
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was okay why is apple doing this like
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they didn't have to they never looked
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like they were going to so why are they
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suddenly doing this and uh you know
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david made a lot of good points about
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all the impending legislation around
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right to repair the presidential order
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there's some local orders in new york uh
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a lot of stuff in europe happening where
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it like seems like there's a lot of
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momentum behind the movement yeah for
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sure and apple's squarely in the middle
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of that like target like they're the
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notorious ones everyone mentions so
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they're kind of getting out ahead of
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that a little bit by saying look we let
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you we let you repair phones we give you
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the genuine parts
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but we're not going to let you do too
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much i think it's pretty clear this is a
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like you said a step ahead this is not
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listening to the customers this is uh
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yeah it's not apparent
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this is purely apple focus it's not tim
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cook going oh you'd like to repair it
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yes okay
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this is the first time i'm hearing that
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yeah we should do that what great
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feedback you have um yeah no so i think
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it's a lot of that but it's also and i
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think i'll make this point near the end
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of the video is like it's a great
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headline it's great pr yeah for apple to
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have a right to repair positive headline
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which goes back into the whole like
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getting ahead of legislation thing
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but also i still think it makes ripples
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in a sort of a positive way i still
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think there are the john deeres of the
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world there's all kinds of other
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companies that don't have anything near
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this friendly for like let's say you're
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a farmer and you want to repair your
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tractor like even if it's only the top
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three most replaced parts that's better
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than nothing yeah so we're still going
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to want to see those ripples through the
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industry for other companies to actually
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take a bit more of a positive stance on
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right to repair even just in our own
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tech industry like we're seeing all the
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more and more gadgets getting smaller
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and smarter smaller and harder and
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harder to repair and harder and harder
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to find things because they're realizing
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that apple's done this so well makes so
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much money off of it
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they like to do what apple does yeah and
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it works so seeing apple go this way
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it's gonna make a lot of other
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tech companies go the same way yeah
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that's awesome the uh the note in the
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newsroom thing i want to hit one last
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time is they've said that this
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program will be expanding to more than
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just cameras batteries and screens
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they haven't provided any details on
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what more things that will be maybe it
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will be ports yeah and camera or face id
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or maybe not i don't know
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and the other thing that we don't know
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because it's not anywhere in the article
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is
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what qualifications will there be to get
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these parts and what will the prices be
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prices are huge i think and and what the
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um rebater
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credits are when you return it as well
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yeah so
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that we'll have to see i mean we'll get
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the details early next year when they
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like start the program i'm hoping it's
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not ridiculous prices there's already
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memes on twitter about like oh you'd
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like to repair yourself that'll be like
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a hundred dollars a pop like
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it should be ideally reasonable yeah um
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but we all know how expensive it is for
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a player like a to go to the apple store
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and get a new screen if you don't have
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album care it's it's very expensive so
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we'll see all that is yet to be seen but
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hey it's a positive right to repair
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apple headline who would have thought
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who would have thought that's not on my
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2021 yeah my bingo card did not have
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that on on the square well i'll i'll
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leave that we'll go to a break on a
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happy note there that's a pretty solid
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spot to take a quick enjoy so we'll take
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a quick quick break we'll come back we
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all right we're back
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we're welcome to welcome to the car
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section of the episode we have a bunch
00:17:00
of random stuff
00:17:02
in the ether that all happened to be
00:17:04
related to cars in some way yeah but i
00:17:06
think they're all really interesting so
00:17:08
they're all like kind of fun yeah let's
00:17:10
go through them you'll understand why
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we're talking about these they're all
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talking to tech stuffs but uh first up
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lucid air
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becomes motor trend's car of the year
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okay cool now
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i think uh
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we've had a there's a large variety of
00:17:27
cars that have one car of the year for
00:17:28
motor trend like i'm not this doesn't
00:17:31
shock me but it is interesting
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that uh that this particular one won i
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think tesla model s won a couple years
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ago it has its early years and i think
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there was one other ev that one um i
00:17:42
mean listen i don't follow motor trend
00:17:45
that much from after this happened
00:17:47
there's a lot of people saying that they
00:17:48
haven't made some of the best choices in
00:17:50
the past oh yes motor trend in general
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but like this is just one where
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the lucid air
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in both of our eyes as far as i know has
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just kind of been
00:18:01
we've been wondering is this a fair day
00:18:03
or is this an actual real thing that's
00:18:05
going to come to market so to me we i
00:18:08
did a video on the lucid air riding in
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it very close to fully functioning
00:18:12
prototype i think like air conditioning
00:18:14
didn't work which was like yeah
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we were the first people to do that this
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is yeah i was on the job for like four
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months and we went over and did that and
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i was so amped it was so cool yeah so
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we've seen the rolling lucid air
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happen many years ago right and i this
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has happened before where companies are
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like hey marquez come back check out our
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factory hey marquez come back check out
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like this new update to our interiors
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and i'm like i've seen the car i've
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covered the basic idea
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please start shipping them yeah because
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i want to see if they can actually
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deliver on a couple really key things
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which include 500 plus 520 miles of
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range yeah now okay i saw that they had
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like an initial delivery event but that
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got me really amped because i was like
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oh my god there's really evs out there
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in the wild today with 500 miles of
00:19:01
range please somebody tell me there's
00:19:03
like a video on youtube or some test or
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something where i can go watch that
00:19:06
happen haven't seen them yet i'm gonna
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keep looking but
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uh i would really like to see
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like somebody go do the road trip test
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or like actually get the 500 miles of
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range because that if that's real that
00:19:18
no one's talking about it enough that's
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a huge deal if
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it only gets 80 of that it is still by
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far the best range out of any ev that's
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out there it's like ash astronomical
00:19:29
like range yeah compared to everything
00:19:31
else you know plaid plus got cancelled
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and part of the reason why is it's like
00:19:34
that car would have had like a 500 plus
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mile range also and i think elon had a
00:19:39
quote on twitter after it got canceled
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saying you know what 400 miles is enough
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like we just don't need more than we rip
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that apart yeah we're like okay but like
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if you could do 500 you would people
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would buy it over the 400. um so the
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fact that lucid is doing it allegedly i
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want to see it but i think that would be
00:19:55
super cool so the lucid air is out there
00:19:58
i don't really honestly care who wins
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motor trend car of the year but i think
00:20:01
it's interesting that it's so brand new
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and barely shipping and we're giving it
00:20:06
these awards it's like all right well
00:20:08
motor trend you do you but i want to see
00:20:11
more of them like in that i want to see
00:20:12
them i mean it's something where i i
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followed them on twitter from the day
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that we went to visit them and i
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remember like two years ago them
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tweeting
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and i was like i forgot i followed these
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guys this is just like i think when we
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first went their original
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release date was supposed to be 2019
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we're now end of 2021 and i think
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i just cannot find somebody who has this
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as an owner including in the lucid
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motors subreddit
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where people are really excited about it
00:20:39
people have reservations for it there's
00:20:40
a whole thread that says who has theirs
00:20:42
yet there's probably like 50 comments
00:20:44
and the closest you can get to it is i
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met somebody with vin number zero zero
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six and they really love it
00:20:51
and that's the closest i can get to
00:20:52
really seeing this thing in the wild
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interesting yeah and you know i think a
00:20:57
lot of the the early delivery stuff from
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all these companies are probably like
00:21:00
super fans or like employees and things
00:21:02
like that so we don't know where those
00:21:03
deliveries went but uh i want to bring
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up two things one uh tesla model s got a
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motor trend car of the year also very
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early in its life cycle i think it was
00:21:13
like before range was proven to the
00:21:15
public yet probably very few deliveries
00:21:17
as well so i have actually no problem
00:21:19
with it winning the award i just think
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well i want to see more of these in the
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wild um but number two
00:21:24
the lucid air seems awesome
00:21:27
it seems really good it's very expensive
00:21:29
that should just it is say that right
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off the top it's like 140 000. we've
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always kind of known that because like
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it was very
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they very specifically told us like that
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top end model with the bucket seats in
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the back that like that was like a
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luxury
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like
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rideshare car that wasn't really
00:21:47
somewhere between that and like a
00:21:48
maybach yeah like you want to be in the
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back seat of the yes
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exactly and for that it is awesome and
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for that 160 000 is probably not that
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crazy if you're looking towards like
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bentleys and stuff like that yeah
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with the
00:22:02
the specs that this thing has
00:22:05
it's crazy i think it's a good-looking
00:22:07
car it kind of looks like a like
00:22:09
updated lincoln which i don't
00:22:12
know but again
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yeah yeah um
00:22:15
there's some really really cool things
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1111 horsepower
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1390 pound foot of torque like imagine a
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maybach 2 thousand horsepower what
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there's just like
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some really really crazy numbers about
00:22:30
this and my issue with it winning though
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is like
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i get that they're trying to do things
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that are like
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breaking trends or like these big new
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things in the category
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we
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are starting to see rivien
00:22:45
be delivered right now and to me rivian
00:22:47
like hits this a little better and it
00:22:49
wasn't even in the finalists yeah yeah i
00:22:51
think if lucid actually does
00:22:53
is delivering and delivers a little more
00:22:55
like it could have been next year's
00:22:56
where rivian seems a couple steps ahead
00:22:59
right and is also this pickup truck
00:23:01
that's coming out evie
00:23:03
really really great stuff on it
00:23:06
i'm somewhere between giving them credit
00:23:08
for not being faraday and just like
00:23:10
never delivering anything
00:23:12
and wanting to see more like maybe i
00:23:16
mean rivian's also barely starting
00:23:18
deliveries but just a little bit more i
00:23:19
want to see them in public hands youtube
00:23:21
tests yeah like we see like maybe plaid
00:23:24
model s is like barely out now
00:23:26
to that level maybe um so i'm sort of
00:23:28
stuck in between them but at the end of
00:23:30
the day i would love to drive like a
00:23:32
finished version i'm excited for lucid
00:23:33
and i think why i've always been so
00:23:35
excited for lucid is because
00:23:37
when i started was right when you got
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back from ces where you test drove the
00:23:40
faraday and it was like the completely
00:23:42
gutted interior you know like
00:23:45
absolutely nothing and then we directly
00:23:48
went to lucid where i was like wow
00:23:49
they're so far ahead of faraday here and
00:23:52
it felt so much more promising and it
00:23:54
felt like something that was right
00:23:55
around the corner an hour four years
00:23:57
later and
00:23:58
waiting yeah so i hope this doesn't
00:24:00
sound mean against lucid i'm really
00:24:02
excited to try it but it just felt weird
00:24:05
i think there's more
00:24:06
remax in the wild probably right if
00:24:08
we're talking about that guy saying vin
00:24:10
number zero zero six uh-huh
00:24:13
i can almost imagine there's more rimacs
00:24:15
out in the wild so technically so the
00:24:17
rimac concept one had i think let me
00:24:20
look at it it was a single digit number
00:24:22
i thought it was double digit but in the
00:24:24
teens
00:24:25
uh they made student hammond crash like
00:24:28
one of them
00:24:29
the what
00:24:30
he crashed
00:24:32
oh oh one of them okay yeah yeah so the
00:24:34
rimac concept one they only ever made
00:24:36
eight
00:24:37
wow okay six have been probably wrong
00:24:40
about that six have been sold
00:24:42
the one that wasn't sold is the one we
00:24:44
drew
00:24:45
and the eighth one is the one that was
00:24:47
crashed okay so there is only
00:24:49
uh
00:24:51
yeah only eight ever made uh and then
00:24:53
the concept two or the navera that's
00:24:56
gonna be like 18 right or something yeah
00:24:58
i don't believe there's any deliveries
00:25:00
yet but they're doing a lot of tours
00:25:02
with it and it's coming soon
00:25:04
nevertheless not only that was a pure
00:25:06
yeah i thought i was being smart i mean
00:25:08
like
00:25:08
the closest i've seen is
00:25:10
vin number 006
00:25:12
so there could actually be more concept
00:25:14
ones out there but i feel like there's
00:25:16
probably more lucids out there and we
00:25:17
just haven't seen them i think uh john
00:25:19
rettinger said he's on a reserve list
00:25:21
he's in california and they've been
00:25:23
getting them sooner because it's a
00:25:24
california-based company so if you're
00:25:26
listening to this or if you're watching
00:25:27
this and you have one please get in
00:25:30
touch please get in touch
00:25:32
all right we also want to talk about uh
00:25:35
another kind of quirky story with the
00:25:37
mustang mock egt
00:25:39
i spent a couple days with it here
00:25:40
actually i didn't have a ton of time to
00:25:42
like really push it because it's just
00:25:44
sort of driving it around yeah observing
00:25:46
how new it feels it is the fastest
00:25:48
version of the mustang machi
00:25:50
um but there was an edmonds review of
00:25:53
the maki gt that discovered
00:25:56
that it is only able to ever put down
00:25:59
five consecutive seconds of full power
00:26:02
full power yeah and so they discovered
00:26:04
this because they're doing track tests
00:26:06
on it yeah versus the model y
00:26:08
performance because
00:26:09
similar sized cars both the like higher
00:26:12
end sportier performance models love
00:26:14
them a lot of praise for the maki like
00:26:16
in general like it's a very well selling
00:26:18
car
00:26:19
despite some weird quality control
00:26:21
issues which like every new car kind of
00:26:23
has at this point like
00:26:24
better suspension by a lot of people's
00:26:26
standards i think it drives just as well
00:26:28
if not better than the performance model
00:26:29
y the the guy in edmond said the overall
00:26:32
package
00:26:33
until he discovered that felt like a way
00:26:35
more cohesive track car right then the
00:26:38
model y now
00:26:39
it's a whole other debate about whether
00:26:41
people buying these cars are taking them
00:26:42
to traffic it's a crossover it's it's
00:26:44
whatever i don't even wanna it's fine
00:26:47
but
00:26:48
five consecutive seconds of power was
00:26:50
the limit according to ford because they
00:26:52
wanted to preserve battery life
00:26:54
how did they not build a button into the
00:26:56
software that lets you disable yeah like
00:26:58
track mode tracks that away yeah i don't
00:27:00
care about preserving battery life if
00:27:02
i'm on a track even if you are a track
00:27:05
like if you're someone who brings it to
00:27:06
the track you're probably still only on
00:27:07
the track
00:27:08
at most 10 of the total time you're ever
00:27:11
driving this car and that's probably
00:27:12
even being super conservative like
00:27:15
it's not going to like vastly
00:27:17
deteriorate this battery um yeah and you
00:27:20
know you're saying if there's a big
00:27:21
debate on how many people bring these to
00:27:22
the track i would argue more people
00:27:24
bring the g this the mustang
00:27:27
maki gt
00:27:29
to a track like you're probably buying
00:27:31
this because you want to bring it to a
00:27:32
track mustang already has the legacy
00:27:34
whether you want to put this in the
00:27:36
mustang family or not i know that's
00:27:38
super controversial
00:27:39
but if you are talking about a mustang
00:27:42
a car that is just known for performance
00:27:45
and known for people wanting to get the
00:27:46
most performance out of it and then you
00:27:48
also had a gt model like this is meant
00:27:50
for a track this is meant to get the
00:27:51
most power and then you just
00:27:53
cut it at five seconds just feels like a
00:27:56
slap in the face it was odd it was like
00:27:58
they were driving it and they would come
00:27:59
out of a straightaway and they'd get
00:28:00
five seconds straight and then they
00:28:02
would out of the next straightaway not
00:28:03
have to turn part and they'd wonder why
00:28:05
and then they'd wait a bit and then
00:28:07
they'd give it full power again but then
00:28:09
on the next straightaway they'd have
00:28:10
only like one second of power left out
00:28:12
of the straight and it was like what is
00:28:14
going on with this car so props to
00:28:16
edmund for like putting the car on a
00:28:18
track and actually finding that but yeah
00:28:19
ford just confirmed like oh yeah we're
00:28:20
just we're just doing that to save
00:28:21
battery life yeah ford if you're
00:28:23
listening you can push ota updates to
00:28:24
the ford machi i know you can
00:28:26
just add a button for track mode so that
00:28:28
you can not have your power nuked on
00:28:30
this fun car you've made that's my only
00:28:32
advice uh i dug the yellow that they
00:28:34
gave us it was like a papaya i
00:28:37
i think it's mclaren orange basically i
00:28:40
thought it was more yellow i felt like
00:28:41
it was more yellow a little brighter
00:28:43
yeah i think adam will put something up
00:28:45
on the screen and if i'm wrong you
00:28:47
better color correct it to look like i'm
00:28:48
right it's a good-looking car i kind of
00:28:51
dug it i liked it more than some of the
00:28:52
other colors we've had because the gt
00:28:54
also they put like the black grille on
00:28:55
the front even though it's plastic it
00:28:57
does look sportier it's got a little
00:28:58
more like finish just make it mac
00:29:00
matte not mac yeah make it matte make it
00:29:02
matte that would have been nice i mean
00:29:03
it's going to catch bugs no matter what
00:29:05
yes but it looks good cool maki gt's in
00:29:07
the wild by the way random fun fact i
00:29:10
think i said this on the last episode
00:29:11
the rivian is
00:29:13
faster
00:29:15
is just actually what is the maki gt
00:29:18
is your 0-60 and 3.5 that's what the
00:29:21
f-150 does right the riffian does in 3.0
00:29:25
what wait it's a truck ford make
00:29:28
even going past that how can ford make
00:29:30
an f-150 go 3.5 and not make the car
00:29:32
that's probably half the weight gord
00:29:34
makes both yeah i guess they just put
00:29:36
more power bigger bigger motors in the
00:29:38
f-150 yeah i mean i'm sure you're not
00:29:40
sport driving an f-150 it's just
00:29:42
hilarious that it goes that fast now i
00:29:43
want to put like f-150 motors in like
00:29:45
the mini cooper ev and watch it just
00:29:48
take like that's like the future of
00:29:50
that's the future of mods i think like
00:29:52
before because everyone would be like oh
00:29:54
i have a custom built engine in this
00:29:55
like sleeper chassis like you have no
00:29:57
idea how fast this like 68 mustang goes
00:29:59
now it's like yeah i put quad motors and
00:30:01
a huge battery in the hummer eevee
00:30:03
regular looking ev and it crushes what
00:30:06
was the hummer ev 0 to 60. too fast it
00:30:08
was awesome
00:30:10
under 10 seconds i think that's a safety
00:30:13
hazard that thing is it's already a
00:30:15
safety hazard that yeah i honestly think
00:30:17
that's going to cause more accidents
00:30:20
than any other car i just looked it up
00:30:22
and it's quoted at three seconds flat
00:30:26
that's faster than the arch audi e-tron
00:30:28
rs if i'm ever driving and i see a
00:30:30
hummer ev i'm taking an alternate route
00:30:33
i need my ways to direct me to avoid
00:30:35
hummer evs because nope
00:30:37
at no point will i trust that thing
00:30:39
anyone driving that on the road when
00:30:41
they deliver that i can't wait to see it
00:30:43
it's going to be wild
00:30:44
okay here's another weird weird one yeah
00:30:47
tesla model 3s and model ys right now
00:30:51
have been spotted being delivered
00:30:53
without wireless charging or the usbc
00:30:56
ports but not just like gone from the
00:30:58
car
00:30:59
the cutouts for the ports are still
00:31:01
there they're just delivering the car
00:31:03
without the ports and they're blaming
00:31:05
the chip shortage for not having the
00:31:07
part ready yet and they'll retrofit it
00:31:09
for free in the future but they're not
00:31:12
telling people
00:31:13
they're just giving you the car hey
00:31:15
here's your car would you like to accept
00:31:16
delivery uh it's missing the usb ports
00:31:20
which is like i have a picture here in
00:31:22
the dock which adam can put on the thing
00:31:24
but it's like
00:31:25
it's a usb-c port it's small
00:31:27
no one's like peering into it to make
00:31:29
sure the actual connector's there like
00:31:31
i'm sure people i would not doubt if
00:31:33
there are people who have this car that
00:31:34
have their their phone plugged in like
00:31:37
right now no idea and like not paying
00:31:39
attention and wondering like oh i must
00:31:41
have not connected it all the way after
00:31:42
my drive i mean wireless charging not
00:31:44
working i think that's one of my
00:31:45
favorite features of the car it just
00:31:46
sits right up in the front where the gps
00:31:48
would be and it just wireless charges
00:31:50
the phone so that's how the first big
00:31:52
post i saw about this happened was
00:31:53
somebody had it on the wireless charging
00:31:55
mat and i mean like we're at the point
00:31:57
where most people throw it down on
00:31:58
wireless charger and don't really
00:32:00
look to see if it's charging and then
00:32:02
they'll notice later so the guy in the
00:32:04
post
00:32:05
noticed that
00:32:06
noticed it again and then went to go
00:32:08
plug it in and i'm assuming just didn't
00:32:10
feel the snap or anything and then
00:32:12
realize it was just straight up missing
00:32:14
it yeah and then when they went to the
00:32:15
tesla service center the people there
00:32:17
said that
00:32:18
they will retrofit it in december it
00:32:20
will be free
00:32:22
but the fact that he had to go back to a
00:32:24
service center to guess that and then
00:32:26
there's a ton of comments in that reddit
00:32:28
thread and there's multiple people
00:32:30
reporting this that they're just and
00:32:32
like sure there is a chip shortage
00:32:34
it just seems insane to me to one even
00:32:37
deliver these
00:32:38
and to to
00:32:39
not say anything yeah if i was tesla
00:32:42
like okay put yourself in their shoes i
00:32:44
don't think you stop delivering the cars
00:32:46
but you have to tell people i think the
00:32:49
best way they could have done it while
00:32:50
still delivering is
00:32:52
hey you know we're having an issue with
00:32:53
the chip shortage you can still take
00:32:55
your delivery now you can wait to take
00:32:56
your delivery later if you do take it
00:32:58
now free supercharging for three months
00:33:00
and will retrofit in december well
00:33:02
here's the thing about you know keeping
00:33:04
cars around they don't have a lot of
00:33:06
space like they're building cars as fast
00:33:08
as they can and they're flying off the
00:33:11
shelves or however you want to phrase it
00:33:13
and so if they offer people the option
00:33:16
to refuse delivery because of it which i
00:33:17
guess they do
00:33:19
they're just going to sell the car to
00:33:19
someone else who will take it without
00:33:21
the ports so they're just like
00:33:22
they're just making the car without the
00:33:24
ports and it's like here do you want it
00:33:25
yes or no and if you say yes here you go
00:33:27
we'll retrofit it later if you say no
00:33:29
someone else will probably take it
00:33:30
without the ports it's really hard to
00:33:32
get these right now but
00:33:34
tell people tell people that they don't
00:33:35
have the
00:33:36
ports yeah so i just can't like
00:33:39
i know tesla gets a lot of
00:33:42
a lot of flack for a lot of things that
00:33:43
happens and they clearly like people try
00:33:45
and make stories out of things and
00:33:47
usually they're blown up this one feels
00:33:49
kind of like the opposite where i'm just
00:33:51
i can't imagine
00:33:52
a legacy car manufacturer doing this and
00:33:55
not having like
00:33:57
what is going on you're the like a lot
00:34:00
of weird queries i think if the f150
00:34:01
came out with this people would go
00:34:04
bananas it's really it's it's like uh
00:34:07
yeah no i it's it's weird it's really
00:34:09
strange a weird issue it's i feel like
00:34:11
you gotta at least offer like a little
00:34:13
something yeah tesla's tesla's also been
00:34:15
one of the companies that's like
00:34:16
been somewhat unaffected by these
00:34:19
shortages like they seem to be
00:34:21
delivering cars just fine like there's
00:34:22
lots of cars that need ships that are
00:34:24
just like oh we can't make as many
00:34:26
hyundai launchers as we thought we could
00:34:27
this year they all need the same chip
00:34:29
and there's a million of them yeah so
00:34:31
tesla's been like sort of cruising along
00:34:34
seemingly unaffected but it's like this
00:34:35
is a big deal like ports simple things
00:34:38
hard to get so that was sort of a wacky
00:34:41
story but yeah hopefully if you
00:34:43
if you have a model 3 or model y
00:34:45
pull over and check out whether your
00:34:47
ports work or not and if they don't
00:34:49
definitely uh
00:34:50
definitely get in touch with your
00:34:51
service center yeah get those ports for
00:34:53
sure okay so that's that's some of the
00:34:55
weirdest stories
00:34:56
let's get into
00:34:58
some new ev announcements that have come
00:35:00
out there's one from
00:35:02
let's see subaru subaru and nissan which
00:35:05
one do you want yes sir so both of them
00:35:06
are like their cars have been announced
00:35:08
but we didn't see much of them these are
00:35:09
like almost the full announcements for
00:35:11
it um i mean i'm going to pick subaru
00:35:14
let's talk super a little subaru fanboy
00:35:16
so bias warning although um
00:35:20
2023 subaru sultera yeah suv
00:35:23
yeah like crossover ish
00:35:26
to be honest i think it looks so
00:35:28
do i like it man you really just are uh
00:35:31
asking the the hard question right off
00:35:33
the bat
00:35:34
i don't think i can just say yes or no
00:35:36
on this interesting what do you want to
00:35:37
say so like right off the bat do you
00:35:39
like it
00:35:40
normally means design right yeah i like
00:35:42
how this looks
00:35:44
it's fine it's fine and then you gotta
00:35:46
look at like specs and price yeah so the
00:35:48
design i don't hate it but i don't love
00:35:50
it it's like pretty typical i feel like
00:35:53
the crosstrek and the impreza has kind
00:35:55
of been going this a little harder line
00:35:58
route my biggest complaint about it is
00:36:00
i've always loved
00:36:01
how much of a hatchback you get with
00:36:03
like an impreza or crosstrek as it goes
00:36:05
all the way to the trunk of the car
00:36:06
where this has that really really hard
00:36:08
slant kind of like a honda cross tour i
00:36:10
think it's called right don't love that
00:36:12
i think you're kind of losing space
00:36:14
um i wish you were a tad bigger but
00:36:17
again i don't hate it there's some
00:36:19
design things that aren't my favorite
00:36:21
but i kind of think the color was kind
00:36:23
of weird they announced it and also i
00:36:24
think maybe in a black or a gray or a
00:36:26
white it might look a lot better
00:36:28
um i don't mind it yeah that's fine at
00:36:31
all yeah it's there it's not a head
00:36:33
turner so then then the specs
00:36:36
we've got a starting price of 37 000.
00:36:39
where do you see that did i write that i
00:36:42
have that on car and driver
00:36:43
2023 subaru sotera starting at 37 000
00:36:46
wait what
00:36:47
hold on hold on this is
00:36:49
i did not have a price in here and i
00:36:51
have a lot of price speculation and is
00:36:53
this real this is estimated wait hold on
00:36:56
it says est let me let me see what they
00:36:58
mean by est so they think it'll start in
00:37:00
the high 30 000 this is not official
00:37:02
from subaru okay subaru hasn't announced
00:37:04
pricing yet okay so let's go with that's
00:37:07
fluttering let's go with that no pricing
00:37:09
but estimated somewhere in the high 30s
00:37:12
there's a spec we know is range right
00:37:14
let's yeah let's talk range let's talk
00:37:15
specs first and then uh
00:37:17
pricing i think i have like a lot of
00:37:19
thoughts on okay let's let's do that
00:37:21
okay so yeah
00:37:22
range i've been super pessimistic about
00:37:24
it i think in a previous episode i guess
00:37:27
240 miles
00:37:28
and i even thought that may have been on
00:37:31
the high side instead
00:37:33
we have a single motor and a dual motor
00:37:36
the
00:37:37
single motor has 329 miles of range and
00:37:40
the dual motor has 286 miles of range
00:37:44
now just to be clear here this is wltc
00:37:46
standard which is a standard in japan
00:37:48
and generally is
00:37:50
a little overrated versus an epa rating
00:37:53
so the epa rating will probably knock
00:37:54
that down a bit but we're still talking
00:37:57
at least three 300 miles of range okay
00:38:00
on the single motor single motor like
00:38:02
lower performance okay yeah yeah which
00:38:05
blue blew my expectations out of the
00:38:07
water i mean we've seen way too many
00:38:09
legacy car manufacturers come in making
00:38:12
a v with a
00:38:14
abysmal range
00:38:16
i usually will see here's a new ev it's
00:38:18
available now it has 210 miles of range
00:38:20
or i'll say i'll see here's a new ev
00:38:23
it'll have 315 miles of range it's
00:38:25
coming out in 2024 which is like oh
00:38:28
that's a good number but it's gonna be
00:38:30
three years too late which is when we'll
00:38:31
all expect even higher numbers yeah so
00:38:34
to have a new solterra assumingly coming
00:38:36
out somewhat soon and with 300 miles of
00:38:39
range is pretty good i'm very very
00:38:41
excited for that i think that's awesome
00:38:43
awesome
00:38:44
um let's see it says it supports dc fast
00:38:47
charging up to 150 kilowatts they didn't
00:38:50
say about how long it would take to
00:38:51
charge your battery but
00:38:53
we're lucky here and this is built on
00:38:54
the same platform as the bz4x which is
00:38:57
from toyota because they partnered with
00:38:58
this got it they look very similar bz4x
00:39:01
and toyota claim
00:39:02
that will charge 30 minutes to 80
00:39:05
capacity so i mean we're looking at
00:39:06
pretty standard about a 70 kilowatt hour
00:39:08
battery if if you know the network
00:39:10
actually turns on so that's always
00:39:12
something yeah
00:39:13
question yes um we have subaru talking
00:39:15
about their x mode which is a pretty
00:39:16
standard company-wide thing it's an
00:39:18
all-wheel drive control system and you
00:39:20
know subaru is known for their all-wheel
00:39:21
drive that'll only be in the dual motor
00:39:24
i'm assuming so i mean right it didn't
00:39:26
specifically say that but i can only
00:39:27
imagine okay um
00:39:29
so when it comes to
00:39:30
i have like two main gripes or questions
00:39:33
i guess that aren't answered quite here
00:39:35
um
00:39:36
number one is price
00:39:38
if we're pricing this out
00:39:42
40 000 feels like kind of the sweet spot
00:39:45
of
00:39:46
now that we're seeing the model 3 creep
00:39:47
up in price to like 46
00:39:49
if we're talking about a car
00:39:52
kind of
00:39:53
similar to it i think the sole terra is
00:39:54
a little bigger clearly does not have
00:39:56
the performance that the model 3 does
00:39:59
but
00:40:00
six thousand dollars cheaper
00:40:02
and most likely we'll have the tax break
00:40:03
because it's a new company doing evs
00:40:05
that seems pretty awesome and similar
00:40:07
range i mean like the main thing we're
00:40:08
talking here is range right when we're
00:40:10
comparing
00:40:11
i think forty thousand could get quite a
00:40:14
few people to make the choice if they're
00:40:16
between
00:40:17
a model three and a soul terra okay
00:40:19
if some the thing is is like subaru is
00:40:22
very well priced for a lot of their cars
00:40:24
um at least i think so and i do think a
00:40:26
lot of people think so i bought my
00:40:28
impreza in 2013 for 21 all-wheel drive
00:40:31
great car crosstreks enforcers and stuff
00:40:34
kind of start around like 26 which is
00:40:36
great great pricing so 40 000 is a big
00:40:39
jump there if this could somehow be at
00:40:40
35 000 i i'll buy it i will 100 buy it
00:40:44
if this is at 35 000.35 you're in i
00:40:46
don't think it will that would be the
00:40:48
starting base price probably at best yes
00:40:50
and i kind of have wonder price wise on
00:40:53
which model will be which but um
00:40:55
i'm worried though that this will be
00:40:56
closer to like 45 and then i think it's
00:41:00
they will only get sales for subaru fans
00:41:03
you are not gonna have the person going
00:41:05
to it over the model 3 when you're at
00:41:07
the same price yeah and maybe this is
00:41:09
people cross-shopping i don't know if
00:41:11
it'll be model 3 or model y more i guess
00:41:12
crossovers model y which is a little
00:41:14
more pricey but when you're at the same
00:41:17
price as model y you have to offer
00:41:20
somewhat the same stuff to be considered
00:41:22
if you're priced above model y you have
00:41:24
to be better at something yeah which
00:41:27
seems like just the subaru things and
00:41:30
being a subaru and having like maybe
00:41:32
more range or sorry maybe more storage
00:41:34
or uh crosstrek type features model y
00:41:37
well the hard thing is if you compare it
00:41:39
to model y because it's a crossover this
00:41:41
is like a weird this feels like the at
00:41:43
least by the pictures i haven't seen
00:41:45
full size but it looks like the lower
00:41:46
end of like a size of a crossover
00:41:49
whereas like model y feels like it's
00:41:51
closer to like compact suv and it's this
00:41:53
really really confusing but model y is
00:41:57
58 starting i think
00:41:59
so like
00:42:00
i
00:42:01
no way sultaira's
00:42:03
that so i like kind of want to compare
00:42:05
it to model three more but yeah you do
00:42:06
get some more room probably than a model
00:42:08
three yeah it's in a weird spot so if
00:42:10
you undercut if you undercut it you just
00:42:12
got to do a couple things as well
00:42:13
obviously it doesn't have a supercharger
00:42:15
network but that's an advantage that
00:42:17
they can take if you're cross-shopping
00:42:18
model y and soltera i think zoltara is
00:42:20
going to have a great chance even at 45
00:42:23
to you know if you are not a tesla fan
00:42:25
or you're not a subaru fan you are just
00:42:27
looking for an ev around that size i
00:42:30
think it will split it pretty well which
00:42:31
is all all
00:42:33
companies need to do now is split the
00:42:35
price split the difference for a tesla
00:42:37
to that um if you're looking for a model
00:42:39
three or soltera i think the sole terror
00:42:41
has to be
00:42:42
35 to 40 to really sway the model 3
00:42:45
buyer over
00:42:46
to that for saving enough money let's
00:42:48
let's make a bet over under
00:42:51
would you take over under
00:42:53
or sorry would you guess that the
00:42:54
solterra's announced price for the base
00:42:56
model will be over under 39
00:43:00
over
00:43:01
okay i'll take that bet you'll go under
00:43:03
i'm hoping i'm wrong or i'm hoping i'm
00:43:05
right and it is under but now see if we
00:43:07
really want to make this bet interesting
00:43:09
if i win you buy me a solterra and if i
00:43:12
lose i'll buy myself a soul terror
00:43:14
because that sounds like a good that
00:43:15
sounds like a good bet i don't know if
00:43:16
i'm gonna agree to it right now but it's
00:43:18
a solid um but so now my next big thing
00:43:21
kind of loops into pricing and that is
00:43:24
i'm confused at what is going to be the
00:43:27
more expensive version of this what is
00:43:29
going to be the base because
00:43:31
in every single eevee
00:43:34
range is like the number one priority
00:43:36
right yep now
00:43:38
subaru is known for all-wheel drive
00:43:40
their thing is that essentially every
00:43:42
car comes with all-wheel drive super
00:43:44
great price point for it
00:43:46
you go to colorado and like 90 of the
00:43:48
cars in the shopping the shopping mall
00:43:50
parking lot are going to be a subaru
00:43:51
because of the all-wheel drive yeah
00:43:53
driving snow all that stuff yeah
00:43:55
so if you are now buying a subaru ev
00:43:58
what is your choice are you prioritizing
00:44:00
all-wheel drive or are you prioritizing
00:44:02
range because the all-wheel drive is
00:44:04
about 50 miles less range according to
00:44:06
wltc standard the single motor will be
00:44:08
cheaper the single motor with longer
00:44:10
range will be cheaper and the extra
00:44:12
motor which costs a lot more which has
00:44:14
better performance but has all-wheel
00:44:16
drive will be more expensive despite
00:44:17
lower range
00:44:19
real quick
00:44:20
what you're saying is correct but like
00:44:23
the
00:44:23
the single motor has a higher horsepower
00:44:26
per motor
00:44:27
whereas the dual motor yeah there's they
00:44:30
are technically each motor is less
00:44:32
performance but the total is larger
00:44:34
exactly definitely i believe that that
00:44:37
base model will be the single motor
00:44:39
front wheel drive with a longer range
00:44:41
because that gets you longer range the
00:44:44
all-wheel drive one will cost more it
00:44:46
will have better performance because of
00:44:47
the higher overall power and all-wheel
00:44:49
drive but
00:44:50
it will have slightly less range
00:44:52
interest um
00:44:54
man if the if single motor could be 35
00:44:56
and dual motor could be 40 that would be
00:44:58
really awesome yeah also dual motor
00:45:00
performance though is not going to be
00:45:02
anything close to a model three no no no
00:45:04
no like we're all i think i hope we're
00:45:06
all on the same page that we're not
00:45:07
comparing it like that yeah um but yeah
00:45:10
i'm excited well the other one that i'm
00:45:12
less excited about
00:45:14
but it exists so i'm happy about it i
00:45:16
think it's important still yeah is
00:45:17
nissan's upcoming electric suv
00:45:20
so nissan is able to claim that they are
00:45:22
a leader in the ev space because of how
00:45:24
long the leaf has been around sure i'll
00:45:27
give you that so now in 2023 they're
00:45:29
going to drop what's called the aria
00:45:31
a-r-i-y-a it'll start at 47
00:45:35
and it will have
00:45:37
did they say the range you can see
00:45:40
about 300 miles of range so yeah 300
00:45:42
miles of range for 47k you can go up in
00:45:45
performance and also up in price there's
00:45:47
a 60k option yeah with 265 miles of
00:45:50
range but a little more power
00:45:52
it looks
00:45:54
uh fine okay if you were already buying
00:45:56
a nissan rogue this this looks like a
00:45:58
nissan yeah you know what this looks
00:46:00
like it looks like an eevee nissan which
00:46:02
is fine it's i don't like it you've
00:46:04
brought up a pricing of subarus in the
00:46:06
past this is an expensive nissan
00:46:09
60k for a nissan is a big ass yeah can i
00:46:12
look up what a nissan rogue is sure yeah
00:46:14
like a nissan rogue starts at 26. yeah
00:46:18
and i'm i believe
00:46:20
i just want to make sure i'm on the
00:46:21
murano's 32 the rogue is 26.
00:46:25
it's not is there 24 to 26 like there's
00:46:28
not a lot of brand new 60 000 nissans
00:46:31
yeah this will start at 47 which is you
00:46:33
know still pretty premium for a nissan
00:46:36
yeah the leaf if i talk about the leaf
00:46:38
anymore i'm getting sad but like they
00:46:40
did they did hop on that early and lots
00:46:43
of people have leafs because they don't
00:46:44
have long commutes it had like a
00:46:46
100 mile range at best and it was like
00:46:48
all right you can drive this as your
00:46:49
commuter car back and forth and like
00:46:50
have a totally good time never pay for
00:46:52
gas again great but when we talk about
00:46:54
like the inspiring like let's replace
00:46:56
every car on the road with an electric
00:46:58
version you need a couple more versions
00:47:00
than just a leaf so this is something
00:47:02
else i do they're accepting deposits i
00:47:05
don't know if this is going to start
00:47:06
getting cross shopped with model y it's
00:47:08
47 so it's cheaper yeah there are two
00:47:10
main things i have out of this one's
00:47:12
good ones makes no sense okay 47 000
00:47:16
for
00:47:16
this
00:47:17
buy pictures this looks bigger than like
00:47:19
a sole tara so i think this is a direct
00:47:20
competitor yeah the model y yeah 300
00:47:23
miles of range is also meant at 10 000
00:47:25
cheaper
00:47:26
there's def they're gonna sway some
00:47:28
people okay
00:47:29
yeah i think that's really cool again
00:47:32
really happy that we see another 300
00:47:34
mile range i'm so glad we're actually
00:47:35
seeing these legacy car manufacturers
00:47:37
like
00:47:38
putting real miles on their range the
00:47:40
thing i don't get is who on earth wants
00:47:43
a performance
00:47:45
nissan rogue ev essentially i don't get
00:47:48
why you'd spend an extra like 15k yeah
00:47:51
the performance version interesting it
00:47:52
doesn't look like a sporty car it
00:47:54
doesn't look like something that you're
00:47:56
going to go
00:47:57
drag race or even just like i guess
00:48:00
that's the thing about evs is they all
00:48:03
naturally are able to offer performance
00:48:05
and instant torque and the base model
00:48:07
will have that
00:48:08
yeah
00:48:09
true like enough for what you need so in
00:48:12
main in normal everyday driving like the
00:48:15
cv thing the best thing about it is
00:48:16
merging onto a highway like you don't
00:48:18
feel stuck yeah but the base model will
00:48:20
have that like it'll feel better than a
00:48:22
regular nissan rogue which i by the way
00:48:24
if you haven't noticed i'm comparing the
00:48:26
rogue to this thing because they look
00:48:27
very similar i just don't get why you'd
00:48:29
pay an extra 15 000 for this like
00:48:31
performance version of this there's a
00:48:32
lot of questions that we didn't think
00:48:34
had there were like solutions without a
00:48:36
problem like who wants a crossover
00:48:39
mustang ev but here we are and like this
00:48:42
might be another one of those where
00:48:44
we're like looking over the obvious
00:48:46
answer of like oh yeah i've always
00:48:47
wanted like a faster like i love my
00:48:49
nissan and i love this the ui for some
00:48:52
reason but i really wanted an ev version
00:48:54
with more storage like here we are yeah
00:48:56
i don't know
00:48:57
there are nissans that people mod and
00:48:59
like to do stuff it's just
00:49:01
as far as i know it's not the rook it's
00:49:02
a smaller group if you have a modded
00:49:03
nissan rogue
00:49:05
show send us some videos or pictures
00:49:07
because i'd love to see it but i'm i'm
00:49:09
not really sure that those really exist
00:49:11
but like you know good point here
00:49:13
ten thousand dollars cheaper than a
00:49:15
model y
00:49:16
for the people who don't care about the
00:49:17
model y performance and who are are able
00:49:20
to
00:49:21
you know
00:49:22
not have to use the tesla supercharging
00:49:24
network right ten thousand dollars is a
00:49:26
big big price jump price difference so
00:49:28
yeah so we'll see next to your car so
00:49:30
that's that's it for evs thanks for
00:49:33
sticking along with our rambling i i
00:49:34
thought all of those were pretty fun
00:49:36
pretty interesting even pretty important
00:49:38
yeah tv podcast exactly
00:49:40
wave can we label this one where the ve
00:49:43
and wave is switched
00:49:45
yeah switch the ev now it's the waveform
00:49:48
the waveform we can do that for april
00:49:50
fools or something but um i just have
00:49:51
like one psa i want to end this on every
00:49:54
year we talk about black friday a little
00:49:56
bit but we always talk about it on
00:49:57
friday
00:49:58
where it's too late so we're just gonna
00:50:00
do our little psa if we're looking
00:50:02
forward to anything but like
00:50:04
i think the main thing i always tell
00:50:06
people on black friday is
00:50:08
go into it with a plan we all are tech
00:50:10
heads here we all want to get tech
00:50:12
cheaper we all know tech gets cheaper on
00:50:14
black friday
00:50:15
but stop going on amazon or best buy and
00:50:18
just like buying things because they're
00:50:20
on sale do your research
00:50:22
pick something that you really want hope
00:50:24
that that goes on sale
00:50:26
buy it on sale yeah going to whatever
00:50:28
retailer and buying what's on sale is
00:50:30
how it's designed for you you should go
00:50:33
in with your own plan and then buy
00:50:34
things also i'll give a little psa if
00:50:37
you're holiday shopping the chip
00:50:38
shortage and supply shortages are very
00:50:40
real so if you are not yet getting stuff
00:50:43
for gifts for family or whatever think
00:50:45
about that earlier than usual
00:50:47
as in like right use your pride pauses
00:50:52
yeah that's it that's it for my psa
00:50:54
but yeah i uh
00:50:56
i actually with a new house and stuff i
00:50:59
do have some i
00:51:00
i'm ready for black friday i haven't
00:51:02
bought anything for a really long time
00:51:03
so you're gonna be part of the like the
00:51:05
crowd running for the tv section no no
00:51:08
no online
00:51:10
on my couch in my slippers under a
00:51:12
blanket i don't do this i'm looking for
00:51:14
a new gaming monitor because i haven't
00:51:15
upgraded since probably black friday
00:51:18
like five years ago okay really excited
00:51:20
about that i was ready to look for the
00:51:22
logitech g pro super light but now they
00:51:24
just came out with the logitech g303
00:51:27
wireless which i ordered already that's
00:51:28
the collab with shroud
00:51:30
i'm so excited that was like my favorite
00:51:32
that was my first gaming mouse i had two
00:51:35
or three of them then they discontinued
00:51:36
them and i was
00:51:38
very very sad
00:51:40
whatever that won't come up and just
00:51:41
like some smart home stuff there's this
00:51:43
really good tp uh
00:51:45
like smart switches hopefully those will
00:51:47
go on sale they're not too expensive but
00:51:49
when you're buying them for the majority
00:51:50
of your house it adds you want to add a
00:51:52
bunch
00:51:52
and like
00:51:54
i mean you should probably be looking at
00:51:55
these too like all the ego
00:51:57
electric
00:51:58
house tools like leaf blower weed
00:52:00
whacker all that stuff
00:52:02
if that went on sale i'm yeah i'm buying
00:52:04
that up yeah it's gonna be sick i'm
00:52:07
excited all right get your uh get your
00:52:09
retail on ladies and gentlemen thanks
00:52:11
for listening to this episode of
00:52:13
waveform it's been a fun time make sure
00:52:15
to watch that right to repair video when
00:52:16
it's out if you haven't seen it already
00:52:18
but
00:52:19
that's been it catch you guys in the
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next one
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