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Tesla Opens its Superchargers and Weird MWC Gadgets?

March 03, 2023 / 01:16:12

This episode covers Tesla's opening of superchargers to non-Tesla EVs, unique phones from Mobile World Congress, and updates on iMessage for Windows. Hosts Marquez, Andrew, and David discuss Tesla's new charging capabilities, including the 'magic dock' for CCS cars, and the implications for EV charging etiquette. They also share their experiences with various concept phones showcased at MWC, including Motorola's rollable phone and OnePlus's liquid cooling concept. The episode concludes with trivia and a discussion on Apple's new clean energy charging feature.

Marquez shares his experience charging a Rivian R1T at a Tesla supercharger, highlighting the ease of use and the challenges posed by charging port placements on different EVs. He notes that while the charging worked well, the logistics of multiple non-Tesla vehicles at superchargers could lead to potential issues.

The hosts then transition to Mobile World Congress, discussing the Motorola Riser rollable phone and its practicality, as well as OnePlus's cryoflux cooling technology. They express skepticism about the feasibility of these concepts making it to market.

Lastly, they touch on Apple's new clean energy charging feature, which aims to optimize charging times based on energy source cleanliness, and how it has been received by users. The episode wraps up with trivia questions related to tech companies.

TL;DR

Tesla opens superchargers to non-Tesla EVs, MWC showcases wacky phones, and Apple introduces clean energy charging.

Episode

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foreign what is up people of the internet
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welcome back to another episode of the waveform podcast we're your hosts I'm Marquez I'm Andrew and I'm David and
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this week uh we'll have a little bit of a oh my God hmm sorry just caught my eye
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David your shirt it's oh it's so bright bright it's really colorful what is it
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this is a choice isn't it well you know YouTube commenter uh ashmit Gupta said
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hey just a small very dumb thing I'd like to mention please Andrew and David wear something colorful next time
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because I guess it's just me but from their point of view it seemed on the grayscale today and it was just a bit
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uncanny so um I did not listen to you sorry well but David I'm for both of us
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yeah there's a little red in the corner there's a little red up here their side yeah for the audio listeners um just
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imagine incredible amounts of color being like forced into your gaze it's Hypno frog yes 100 yes you can just
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imagine me in full color perfect and you'll enjoy it it's face paint well okay so this this week I got a
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little story time for uh Tesla opening up their superchargers but also we have some wacky phones from mobile Congress
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to talk about then we'll wrap it up with a couple quick hits like a little flip they switched on the iPhone and some
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iMessage on Windows laptop stuff but I guess I'll just open it with the the story time I just got back I just
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got back from a little road trip so we we've seen these headlines for the past I don't know months of uh years yeah a
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long time yeah Tesla's gonna open their superchargers to non-tesla EVS and in the U.S there's two kinds of
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electric cars there's Teslas and there's all the rest Teslas can charge on Tesla
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superchargers and also on public chargers for backup all the rest
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charge on public Chargers all the time and we've talked about the reliability issues with those the charging
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experience with those not being ideal if you're buying a 170 000 Lucid air and
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your best bet is like crossing your fingers that hopefully the Electrify America charger works it just doesn't seem to match up so you know Teslas have
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been the ones that I that I largely recommend in the US but today as of the recording for the first time that is now
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different because there are some select Tesla superchargers in the US 10 I think
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10 or something under a dozen that have been retrofitted with this new thing called the magic Dock and you can
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officially charge on them with a CCS car with a built-in adapter so today I went
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out with the rivian r1t up to the closest one which is actually like an hour and a half Upstate into New York
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and I checked it out and I saw how it went so here's how it went uh I first I drove I got there I had
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like 90 miles of range left perfect I opened the Tesla app and it shows like a
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map of the superchargers in your area you pick the one that's on the map and you say okay which charge port am I at
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because with a Tesla you know you just unplug it and plug it into your car and it's Plug and Play It's So seamless with
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this one your car's not talking to the Tesla Supercharger so you kind of have to do a little extra work you tell it
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I'm at stall 1B you hit the button you hear a little click and it's actually unlocked when you pull it out
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the head of the plug has an adapter on it already oh that works with ccs and
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you plug it in and then it's plug and play it just starts working and all the action happens in the Tesla app
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so there's no screen on the stall there's no extra work you have a Tesla account it all happens in the app
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and that for me worked fine like that to me makes the rivian a better truck for me to own in this area because now I can
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actually reliably move around on Tesla superchargers that are reliable it's not as fast as a perfectly working Electrify
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America charger would have been I maxed out at about 155 kilowatts which for
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those of you who know a V3 supercharger working with a Tesla will go up to 250 kilowatts and a perfect condition
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Electrify America charger uh with the right car May briefly hit 300 or 350 kilowatts which is crazy fast charging
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but you know it was fast it was fast charging it worked that's the bottom line so that was what was exciting and I
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was about to turn around and leave but I did want to stay for a little bit and just like fill up because I had to drive back here so I went and grabbed uh
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Dunkin Donuts muffin and I came back and when I came back there was a lucid air
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two more Teslas and an F-150 Lightning dang nice oh wow that got really
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interesting so what's happening is here's the this is what I think is going to be the most interesting about this
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which is like okay cool more EVS are more you know possible to road trip with
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but every single Tesla has a charge port at the back left corner of the car since they started making them and the point
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of that is Tesla superchargers have the exact perfect cable length so that when
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you back up into the spot it just reaches and you plug in and it's the shortest cable for the fastest charge
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and everything's optimized and that's that's great but all these other EVS all have the charging port in various
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different spots I pulled up with the oh with the rivian which you might not know has a charging port on the front left
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corner so instead of backing in I pull into a spot but I am technically in the wrong
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spot for the one that I'm charging at so if you backed in you would have been in
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one spot because because I pulled it Forward I was in the wrong spot for that car
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which is fine if it's just one of me but what if more show up yeah right so the Lucid air shows up the Lucid air has it
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at the front left as well the F-150 Lightning shows up it has it at the front left as well and so now what
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happens is when the F-150 Lightning showed up there were actually three spots available only one of them was it
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possible for it to charge at because only one of them had the cable available on the correct side for that car and
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then at that point are those other two spots not available for any even Teslas uh because it's used or one of those
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spots doesn't work for a regular Tesla I think I'm gonna have to check my video but in the moment if another non-tesla
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pulled up they could not charge I think Teslas would have been able to charge well so okay so it's three empty spots
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next to each other right assuming the F-150 pulls in the middle spot yeah then it's using the charger from the left of
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it correct so that left spot's now now keeping it from where Tesla would have been so even a Tesla in that left spot
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couldn't charge right yeah and then in the right spot a Tesla could nice Yeah so basically the idea is if it's all
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Teslas you'll maximize all the spots as soon as one non-tesla shows up and Parks anywhere it can throw off yeah it goes
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from eight superchargers to seven to six to five because people are not able to correctly so it becomes actually like an
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etiquette problem because the Lucid backed out and parked on the other side so that there was three next to each other so that the F-150 could charge so
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we all had to talk to each other to figure this out so it's like the urinal and they're like it's gonna become this
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like Unwritten rule of this is how you have to park here yeah it's really interesting I'm really curious about the magic charger and how it works so so is
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it like there is one hose that is always in the charging thing and when you hit the button it attaches the adapter so
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when it's hanging in the new normal supercharging position when you arrive most Tesla superchargers it's just the
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normal cable right you just pop it out with a button and plug it into your car yeah with this one it's sitting in an
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adapter already okay when you arrive so when you unlock it with the normal Tesla you just pop it out like normal if you
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unlock it in the app with a non-tested adapter also unlocked keeps the adapter locked onto the head and it unlocks the
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adapter and so when you pop it out the adapter is on the cable so that's how they're that's the
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retrofit that they came up with is there no way to steal the adapter is it like locked on to the I didn't try that's a
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really good question actually um I guess yeah the pin that I unlocked was specifically to pop it out of the
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the harness I guess it's called so I never tried to take it off the end okay I assume you won't be able to I would
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hope so I hope yeah um uh yeah he's something that's kind of good that um happened I think yeah
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February 15th which was actually only like two weeks ago is that the Biden Harris Administration announced that new
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um 7.5 billion dollar EV charging plan and in order to be eligible for to be
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one of the Chargers that's going to be on the road you have to have 97 uptime
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okay which compared to our experience that we had on the road trip is like night and day that would be amazing yeah
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yeah because apparently it's like terrible yeah and Tesla the Chargers have like incredibly good uptime so I
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mean that that whole bill because that's the same bill that also basically had Tesla make this change right because
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they weren't allowed to get funding from that bill or a bill previously similar
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to it unless they oh I believe once they opened it up to
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interesting not only their own company that makes sense they were allowed to start getting funding interesting we covered a few months ago I think um so
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that's that's cool that means through some of these different EV laws we're having in the US now we now have
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Tesla Chargers that can charge non-tesla cars and hopefully
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yeah way better yeah it'll be interesting to see how they enforce that because I don't know how you can like
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just say you have 97 uptime I don't know if that's if they're gonna probably they're checking all the time well
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remember when we're on the road trip and the charger that Brandon and I went to that was broken we started getting
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tweeted at by like the New York State Department of electric vehicles or
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something because they maintain it yeah and then they contacted Ford and got really mad at Ford yeah but that's what
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I suspect is going to keep happening we all think it should be up 97 of the time but who's gonna actually do that yeah
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they'll they'll have to find some way to report in with it probably a month later so it'll be a better than previously but
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I do think all the infrastructure should be ultimately getting better now that we're having more and more cars come out
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and now even if the people going to those Chargers are not going to go to Tesla Chargers more they have even more
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incentive to try and keep up because they're even losing the revenue from that right it's an interesting choice actually if you are driving one of these
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vehicles the choice of do you go to a Tesla one or a non-tesla one is kind of interesting uh my price per kilowatt was
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I think if you don't have an account I think it was 50 cents per kilowatt which is like competitive but you can get
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cheaper at other chargers but then you have to risk maybe the charger not being up or being broken do you know how much
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that is compared to charging a Tesla on it is it more I was I think it's slightly cheaper it's I said it said 10
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cents cheaper per kilowatt if you have an account so I don't know I it's different per supercharger you actually
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obviously have to check I'll do the math in my video also on the autofocus channel so we can all see the difference yeah um when you say account real quick
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do you mean just an account that you have to make to go or like can I have a Tesla account without owning a Tesla you
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can have a Tesla account without owning a Tesla just so you can use the app and then but you won't necessarily have a
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membership which I think is a month oh that was another thing we talked about that there was a membership
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that they were offering the last time we talked about this headline who knows how many months ago and probably the eighth
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time we talked about it but there's a membership to get cheaper charging rates yeah can you be a member without being
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without owning a Tesla do that I don't know okay we should figure that out that's being a member made it 10 cents
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per kilowatt cheaper okay so if that if you wind up doing road trips through a Tesla charger a lot even without a Tesla
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it could potentially be worth it but it's still pretty cheap to fill up right yeah so total I went from 30 to 85 on
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the rivian which is a pretty big battery it's 135 kilowatt hour battery and that cost me 30 bucks and it cost 30 minutes
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so it was pretty solid um here's one more uh twist to the end
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of the story the F-150 Lightning charging port is on the front left but
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it's kind of like back a little bit over the wheel you know where the badges yeah and the cable was just barely barely
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long enough to actually plug in so I was there it was a YouTuber actually who was there who was testing this he pulled his
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car up one inch from the stanchion oh my God to like almost hitting it to be able
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to stretch the cable taut all the way to like bend it around the flap because the
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flap comes out over the top of the flap and it just barely barely worked those Tesla hoses are really short yes yeah
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yeah wait and that was that was in the spot that's where he's already using the
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wrong quote the wrong charging port yeah yeah so he if that hadn't worked we were gonna try I have video of uh the Lucid
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which was like parked halfway out of one of the spots to work and then if the I think they were gonna swap after I left
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so maybe his video will be up by the time this goes up but like he was going to try swapping with the Lucid it was
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it's just there's gonna have to be conversations that superchargers won three different types of cars show up with three different types of charging
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yeah do you think there's any chance they extend the cable no I think that's harder the problem I see with it if they
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don't do that though is now so I already was gonna have the question of like do we see this becoming an issue in uh
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super popular supercharging uh locations like on the west coast where there
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already is a line like that's one of the one thing with EVS that kind of sucks is
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if you're at a gas station line everyone only takes two minutes you're at a line for a charger and you need that charger
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you're there a couple hours so now if you have that position and where one
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non-tesla EV is in there and taking up two spots essentially yeah you could be
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doubling or tripling that line very quickly yep and I can't wait till the
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public freak out subreddit has like fights because an F-150 a lightning guy yeah they're just like fights at the
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Tesla Supercharger but yeah I feel like Tesla for their own customers needs to
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do something to make that that's that was interesting so on I'm really curious how they're gonna roll this out I think
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the ones that they've opened up so far are specifically some of the lowest use superchargers just so they can see how
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it goes like when I got there at you know nine in the morning or whatever I was the only one there there was one other model three briefly before other
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people started showing up to try to test and all the ones that are in our area were not on the map and I wonder if
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they're gonna just not do that for a while just see how it goes with the non-highly used ones because of the
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types of things I just mentioned which is like there are going to be people like crossing over people making spots on optimized and I don't think that's
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going to fly in the ones that have like 16 styles that are always full so I
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think it's a wait and see type thing for Tesla especially uh considering how that went
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um what else uh we did pricing how many Chargers yeah I think making
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the cable longer would have been a harder retrofit oh yeah it's not even a retrofit at that it's like rebuilding
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fully rebuilding yeah right yeah I would say that if they do get the funding to make new Chargers and they make a lot of
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new chargers they should just try to figure out how to make the cable longer I think yeah yeah it's also it doesn't
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kind of feel like the Apple effect where it's like when they opened up FaceTime for Android it was like yeah we enabled
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it for you but like you know in order to get the best experience you need one of our phones yeah I think that's a a
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really important thing to talk about because potent that might potentially be like it's not only that it's like we did
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it it's we did it and we can get a lot of funding because we did it but it's not the best yeah I I honestly don't
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think that's and I'm usually pretty hard on Tesla I don't think that's really I think they're getting the funding I do
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think they will try and make it a better experience for everyone mostly because if they don't they're screwing over
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their own their own customer base right they they need to find a way ideally to make it
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available for more cars and also not make it worse for Teslas yeah yeah kind
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of like you know an iMessage group chat where everyone's blue Bubbles and then suddenly the green bubble shows up and screws up everything it's like the same
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thing like when when an F-150 Lightning shows up it just ruins the optimization that was happening there and I do feel
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like at Tesla leaves things about that that's got to be something they have in the back of their head I was expecting them to do like if it's a 10 charger uh
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what do you call them a just just a supercharger a center Station okay yeah like a 10 Charger station like two of
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them have the retrofit but all of them yeah we're good yeah that's great I I
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would only assume they would try and make a way to like push Teslas to the front of the line for
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it but it's possible that to get the funding they need all of them to be that way potentially like all new Chargers or
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all new updated Chargers interesting because this was an existing charger that was like they added the retrofit to
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make it compatible I imagine new Chargers will also have the battery that could just be to test it to see how it's
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going I really think it's a wait and see it I think it's pest I'm just gonna enable it for the Dozen that have it now and like see how it goes you know our
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videos will go up they'll see the pr they'll see how the conversations go yeah we'll take it from there yeah but
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that was my morning one last question yeah when the Tesla started showing up were they like
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what the what is happening do they think like people were did you talk to any of them I talked to all of them yeah uh one
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of them was he was watching both of our like two of us were YouTubers and he's watched both of our videos so he was
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like charging in a model 3 and was like I just got this the other day like this is crazy we were all charging here
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um but yeah they just backed in and parked like sort of normal what's funny I was gonna mention there used to be
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supercharger etiquette specifically because at V2 superchargers uh stalls
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next to each other share the same power source yeah and so if there's 10 stalls it's like urinal etiquette yeah
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do not charge next to me because you're gonna cut my charge time in half for no reason charge over there please uh now
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with the three superchargers that's solved everyone gets full power but now you have this new problem so we'll see
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interesting we'll see keep an eye on that the full videos on the autofocus channel for sure by the time this is out so
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and we'll see who's the other YouTuber that has the F-150 stuff uh let me find his name just in case anyone wants a
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more in-depth F-150 I like that you both brought charge state of charge date of charge cool
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um another also a video from the out of spec uh Channel he like last night as soon as it showed
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up on the app drove up there and charged so like people are are testing it readily that's great so yeah so that was
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my day uh let's take a quick break and do a trivia question and when we come back we gotta talk weird phones
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trivia time so quick update the scores yes Marquez has eight
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Andrew has six David has nine oh that's right you're doing great Andrew loves
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you okay first question so we just finished talking about rivian uh but do you know what the company was named
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before it was called oh my God I so I'll accept two answers because they had two
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previous names so what yeah two different previous names okay sorry wow yeah I listened to a
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podcast about this and I didn't rotate the information oh no I know a lot of things about Riven but
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that might not be one of the things yeah okay I have no idea all right answers at the end hopefully listeners retain this
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information retain this watch time and be right back
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single year and often there are just a lot of strange announcements at mwc sometimes concept phones sometimes
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concept laptops sometimes real stuff um and then sometimes yeah and then
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often uh announcements of stuff that's coming later in the year so it's kind of like a CES part two but specifically
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more around phones and that kind of stuff um so there's a bunch of announcements here the first one we got to talk about
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that I think I have a lot of comments on is this concept Motorola Riser it's
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called the Moto Riser which is there is their rollable phone and I just want to
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say it's just this Moto Rola was right there they could have they could have
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they could have done it they could I was told that in Portuguese Rolla means something not so I can't say on the
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podcast darn all right but wait I think Riser is not a bad name Riser is actually a throwback to an old flip
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phone Motorola phone Verizon I didn't know that yeah but just like it's spelled like Razer r-i-z r-i-z
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I see I mean Motorola is used in Brazil so it probably need to be sensitive to them yeah but they could have called it
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the Moto roller too and that would have been more Motorola roller well because it's the Moto it's not even the Motorola
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this now the brand is just Moto now that would have been so good exactly okay that's s tier I call this still an a
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tiered name yeah it's way better than a Sony phone that might be the best thing about it
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its vertical height yes by the way this is all in the background of us we did a
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video on concept phones which is my basic conclusion was like there are um
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they're fine yeah but they're what they are is a a marketing spin on failed r d
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or maybe just not ready yet r d so you do all this work you do prototyping you
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test things and then they get to the stage where you decide if it's going to go on the phone or not and some things are a no they don't make it to the phone
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but we did spend all that money and do all that r d and maybe we just like repackage it and make one phone and like
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show it off as a concept phone and then maybe in the future it'll happen and then suddenly there are companies that
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have spun this into like yes every year we do a concept one with a new cool idea and you talk about us so that got me
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kind of like on this little mini rant this I don't think is gonna ever be a real
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um I'd probably doubt it yeah it seems interesting thing I mean it's like this weird aspect ratio and the screen sort
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of folds into the the phone itself and then when you either press a button or
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change the direction of the phone like you're watching a video it rises like from the back so the the screen sort of
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folds around the phone and then a motor pulls it around the front yeah and so
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much around the phone that yeah I know motor it's a good Motorola just saying wow so you can get this so I
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didn't want to I didn't want to interrupt the joke okay yeah but it's it's not that it goes inside the phone either it literally goes underneath and
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around the back and then there's a screen on the back as well yeah it's yeah so you go from a slightly
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short phone to a normal size phone yeah well no it's like a taller phone dude this is completely pointless
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I disagree yeah same thank you but I think this is a poor implementation of it what would you want this to be okay
00:24:46
here's my issue just I would want it to have a customizable sound effect for when it rolls yeah there's no doubt if
00:24:52
if I can have it do like the Jetsons car sound like if this thing as it unrolls goes
00:25:01
there's no doubt there is a crazy sound that happens yeah like the old Razer had a crazy sound a sound effects pack of
00:25:09
things that happened when you opened and closed it I don't know but yeah what do you what is this I like that like I think this
00:25:16
short form factor is kind of cool fits in your pocket but this is the so we've seen old rollable Concepts that were
00:25:21
more like this Samsung fold where it goes from a regular size phone and rolls out wide like a square ratio this is the
00:25:28
rollable version of like the flip where it's a small compact phone and goes to a normal sized phone here's the issue many
00:25:35
yeah when it goes up the extra like three inches on the top is just this like super thin fragile
00:25:42
looking screen yeah that looks like it's gonna break immediately oh yeah and now the thing the when it's small you have
00:25:48
the screen on the back so now you have this uneven back it's it's like when every single time we say two in one
00:25:54
laptops I don't want a tablet that has keys on the back of it I want the back to feel right yeah so those are two
00:26:01
giant flaws I see with this there is also a thing where it automatically rolls out if it gets put in landscape
00:26:06
mode which seems bad because if it's like in your pocket and happens you just roll it out and then also having movable
00:26:14
Parts in devices kind of a bad idea that's the main thing we we had those like pop-up cameras briefly which I
00:26:20
loved but like let's be honest they were kind of gonna be on the way out they were a stop Gap they lasted one
00:26:26
generation exactly yeah I feel like with all these concept phones we should put them in the bucket of either
00:26:31
uh never gonna happen concept or not ready yet maybe in the future concept yeah this one I think is never gonna
00:26:39
happen concept I still like they did it I think it's fun I think I mean rolling
00:26:44
screens if if you could happen sometime
00:26:50
I think there's potential over a folding screen because like if you could go from a a square small it does eliminate the
00:26:58
crease uh technically true if the crease is the issue then yes but you you ditch the
00:27:05
crease for a extremely fragile like well okay I'm not saying like this form
00:27:10
factors how to do it I'm saying I think there is potential for uh maybe rolling and maybe not even phone I do remember
00:27:18
the Rolling LG TV like I do think that has a niche area where if you have
00:27:23
enough money yeah there are lots of people who like to hide their TV screens and there's where they have it like
00:27:29
mounted in the wall or behind a picture or cabinets and stuff like that so that is like a a nice credenza where you can
00:27:34
have nothing there and then a giant TV all of a sudden Fair all right all right well very low tier of like might could
00:27:41
be happen but this is this ain't it bro yeah maybe yeah okay here's the next one all right it's the one plus concept
00:27:47
phone we saw this coming this is the one we got to play with here this is a concept of a active cryoflux liquid
00:27:56
cooling trademark thing yeah they call it cryoflux so that's how you know is
00:28:01
gonna go that's how you know it doesn't do anything yeah so so the full the concept phone itself has these like
00:28:07
see-through channels through the back of the phone which have this visible clear
00:28:12
liquid with bubbles flowing through it which looks crazy like you've seen a water cooled PC where you can like look
00:28:17
at the water cooling it's like the same thing you can see the liquid moving
00:28:22
um it's got these tiny tiny pumps it has uh LED lights in it so you can turn the
00:28:29
lights on and it will illuminate all of the liquid moving and it just looks like this cool crazy thing there's also a
00:28:34
circle around the camera bump for some reason you're cooling your cameras too yeah um but this concept phone doesn't
00:28:41
actually cool the phone better than normal it's just a normal phone with lights and it actually makes it hotter
00:28:48
yeah it actually doesn't work very well but their idea was oh yeah we've tested a version of this where we do have it
00:28:55
optimized well and we suspect it can cool your phone while gaming 2 to 2.1
00:29:01
degrees Celsius which could give you three to four extra frames per second wow and can charge one minute faster I
00:29:07
think it was like once it was like two seconds it was up to one minute faster okay yeah so great so yeah despite how
00:29:16
terrible all of that sounded yeah wait you're telling me that that really is water inside there I think this concept
00:29:22
phone has distilled water and blue lights and the theoretical finished version of cryoflux is a special liquid
00:29:31
that would optimize this okay cool it would have a way to dissipate the heat which it currently does not like an
00:29:36
actual heatsink that it would run over with the water yeah the thing about this is all those bubbles like not ideal no
00:29:43
it's cool to show that it's actually what I thought it was fake I just thought no there there are there's a real pump system where it like changes
00:29:50
the charge of a thing and because it slightly moves up and down it it sucks water up and then pushes it through
00:29:56
another Channel yeah it's cool to watch um but well it's cool to watch because of the bubbles but yeah the more bubbles
00:30:02
there are the less it's cooling because it's more air than actual liquid like yeah logic it applies to this entire
00:30:08
phone yeah they did things that look cool to make it look cool that make it worse at cooling yeah like if you're
00:30:13
looking at a water cooled PC and you just see that many bubbles going through yeah like I need to fix something yeah
00:30:19
exactly so that that's that was the idea that they made a phone that looks really cool and they presented it and they were
00:30:25
like but what if um I'm putting this also in never gonna
00:30:30
happen territory because look obviously we have these really complicated uh
00:30:36
really intense cooling systems for our our phones because it's very to keep them cool they have batteries they
00:30:41
charge over and over and that's one of the most important things you can do is reducing heat but this specific method didn't seem like it was going to give
00:30:47
that much of an advantage and if I dug into the phone settings it had like 3 000 milliamp hours of battery missing
00:30:54
from it just to make this concept work of course the finished version might be more optimized but I just don't see it
00:30:59
actually maybe OnePlus will prove me wrong but I don't see this ending up in a future OnePlus phone either
00:31:06
maybe I'm wrong I don't know I mean prove me wrong they do sometimes end up putting stuff in future devices remember
00:31:11
their last concept phones your last three concept phones also didn't come to the real device it was a
00:31:18
color changing back with piezoelectric piezoelectric however you say it and then it was uh entity filter over the
00:31:24
camera which was the same super thing I wanted that to be yeah that's the one thing that I think please yeah OnePlus
00:31:30
proved me wrong yeah but they haven't which is also a piece of electric right yep yeah yeah yeah so you know that
00:31:37
probably won't come to Market I was I was a little bit annoyed because a lot of the headlines were like OnePlus made
00:31:42
a water cooled phone and it does but it doesn't actually work like yeah they were they were like yeah this could work
00:31:49
if we had the additional components to actually cool it and I'm like okay but how much extra space is that gonna take
00:31:55
up is the battery gonna be even more reduced I made an electric car that closed a thousand miles on a charge just
00:32:01
not this one just it does just look at it yeah like it would go a thousand as well
00:32:07
I'll take your 100 bucks right now it'd be interesting to see this cryoflux Tech
00:32:12
uh put into a wireless charger instead of a phone that's exactly what I was thinking we have like a little more
00:32:18
space for a little more liquid and it would just cool during the charging process it would work perfectly with
00:32:24
OnePlus 2 because they're so focused on like we're like with is it still called warp charging
00:32:30
dash dash charging no it's something else now it was Dash now it's Luke okay
00:32:36
whatever from it's an Oppo they like they like this they like to enhance the charging function right so like then
00:32:42
they why don't they do this as their new like cool supervook wireless charging where and it could even have the cool
00:32:48
lights and the water flowing through the back and all the bubbles if you want because I mean yes but then it would
00:32:54
only reduce charging temperature which is just one of the factors and you won't get those three to four frames yeah I
00:33:01
guess but okay the irony is that almost all mobile games are capped at 30 to 60 FPS in almost every single phone already
00:33:08
hits that whoops yeah anything that's going with like a high refresh rate is made to get to that like already and
00:33:16
it's probably hitting that refresh rate so like I don't think anybody's hitting that span of well I've got more frames
00:33:22
in my phone yeah you can like really handle it I think that with something I'd like to see more of um is Asus does that thing where why you
00:33:30
have your phone plugged in while you're gaming it doesn't actually push energy to the battery it just Powers all the
00:33:36
components straight through the cable it pass through yeah yeah I don't think this makes sense as a gaming phone but as a gaming accessory for gamers to have
00:33:44
one more RGB thing on their desk and now when they pick up their phone in between matches it'll be less hot Yep this is uh
00:33:51
that on its own by Dimension degrees Celsius I mentioned the Rog phone and the Legion phone dual Yeah in our video
00:33:58
Yeah phones that are inherently more Niche but that can pull off these more
00:34:03
optimized features for your last three to four FPS on gentian impact are the most intense games where you do want
00:34:09
that yeah so it's out there yeah uh okay what else do we get speaking of charging yeah yes next we have a charger a new
00:34:16
redmi phone well not new because it's probably won't come to Market it might it actually probably will come to Market uh a phone that charges with 300 watts
00:34:24
and can charge from zero to 100 and literally under five minutes a lot um I feel like yeah yeah I feel like
00:34:32
every single month we get a new fastest charging smartphone I feel like they're
00:34:39
yeah I just saw like a 240 watt one and I was like that one's actually coming to Market too that one's coming to Market
00:34:44
and so yeah it's like 240 watts is a MacBook Pro 16 inch M1 Max is 140 Watts
00:34:53
0 to 105 minutes yeah okay so five minutes is is less than five minutes it's like it's like 450 or something
00:35:01
it's 300 seconds yeah and so divided by uh so it's one percent per second every
00:35:08
three seconds I think they said one
00:35:22
oh my God yeah dude there's a stopwatch so it's like you need to charge real quick here just okay yeah I would really
00:35:28
yeah seriously I would really like this in something that has a bigger battery capacity
00:35:34
um because as we've seen with smartphones like you have this super high wattage charging but it only hits
00:35:40
that wattage for like a few seconds and then it drops like the charging curve is very like gets to the top and then just
00:35:47
dunks right you know I mean this is that curve will be true for all of these
00:35:52
types of batteries but for larger capacity batteries it's more interesting like we mentioned tablets when we were talking about this uh or computers
00:35:59
laptops how Wild would a 10 minute charge on a laptop be yeah that'd be sick
00:36:05
Pros already charge really fast yeah but if you could charge that at like double the speed imagine just tapping your
00:36:11
Apple watch Ultra on the charger 100 super capacitors those have like 410
00:36:18
million power batteries so that would be insanely 100 in one second that would be pretty nice
00:36:26
um yeah so maybe that will come to Market in like a year considering the 240 watt phone just came to Market yeah
00:36:32
and by the time this comes there'll be a 350 watt Concepts yeah I was gonna say did they present this as a concept or as
00:36:38
a as a feature of a phone concept okay so I'm I'm going to I'm going to file this under it's coming just not ready
00:36:45
yet yeah because that I'm ready for the kilowatt phone oh my God I'm ready for the kilowatt it sounds crazy now but
00:36:51
it's it's gonna it's gonna happen and it's gonna be like three percent in one second yeah yeah that's ridiculous
00:36:58
okay that's that's sick yep um next we've got a rolling laptop which I would
00:37:03
definitely use uh very cool explain so this is not dissimilar to the Moto Riser
00:37:12
um Lenovo also Lenovo oh yeah it's a thinkbook concept um but it's like a regular aspect ratio
00:37:20
computer that has sort of like a like a shroud over the back of itself but then
00:37:26
when you want to extend it it just Rises upwards and it becomes a very strange
00:37:31
aspect ratio gets taller yeah it gets taller laptop oh Mike it gets like one and a
00:37:38
half almost 2x taller than the normal it's I said it's like Gerald from Hey Arnold
00:37:47
I think it's super sick I would run two Arc browsers on top of each other if
00:37:52
this is the case well Arc browser you can do vertical split tabs so you just do one giant tall tab okay so what would
00:37:59
you actually do with that extra vertical resolution just another browser for more tabs for me okay yeah yeah more tabs I
00:38:06
mean because I'm thinking about someone who would pay extra money for this rollable crazy thing and then trying to
00:38:11
think of the reason that they got sold on this idea there are like those con like there's those Asus computers that
00:38:18
have a second display on the bottom and theoretically you can do anything quote
00:38:23
unquote second display by just splitting the display right so if you wanted to have like Discord or twitch chat in the
00:38:30
bottom and then have your game in the top part you could do that yeah you know just like more real estate to be honest
00:38:35
it's it's fair laptops are vertically constrained I mean they're all widescreen laptops and so this is why
00:38:43
Arc browser was so interesting to me because cause I put the tabs on the side like oh duh yeah that's the spot we have more extra room that's yeah okay do you
00:38:50
think this is gonna actually ever okay I feel like this almost is kind of on my
00:38:56
point of rollable screens where like at least this goes into a protected aspect like you're not gonna run around and
00:39:01
snap the top of the screen off it provides a little more because it looks like it rolls Back Down Under I'm
00:39:07
assuming the base of the laptop that's a guess is that what happens uh that's a guess where does it roll I guess it must
00:39:13
roll it doesn't mean where else could it roll yeah under the keyboard when it's unrolled that the aspect ratio is eight
00:39:18
by nine which is like having two 16x9 displays is that now what the Dual up is or is it
00:39:24
9x8 the do-up is uh 16 by 18. so it is
00:39:30
eight by nine yes okay but yeah the Dual lip is a very strange uh listeners the
00:39:36
do-up is the greatest monitor invented by me just want to say my my friend just got one and like I told him you had it
00:39:42
and you liked it and he loves it there's so many people buying that it has terrible pixel fridge nice and I love it
00:39:50
to death all right Lenovo we see you so I like this Lenovo always does really really weird stuff it's so funny
00:39:55
watching it roll up like you have to go watch a video of it rolling it's fantastic thank you just imagine being in Starbucks and like staring at
00:40:02
somebody on your screen just slowly rolls up you catch somebody's eyes over the top of your laptop and you just hit
00:40:08
the button and it just rolls up over your eyes and all you hear is no yes uh we also got a bunch of new
00:40:18
foldable phone news which is cool um OnePlus officially announced that they're bringing a folded pill fun to
00:40:24
Market by the end of the year which is cool uh there's going to be a new Moto Razer 4 that's coming out this year that
00:40:31
the concepts look kind of insane for like the entire front of this I saw that thing as a display that's when it goes
00:40:36
around the cameras like literally the whole front like the cameras are a cut out on the front display yeah on the
00:40:42
flip that's I mean if they can pull off that's crazy yeah we were talking about this I don't know if I it's not gonna
00:40:49
look great David and I were saying it would be really cool if there was some sort of like low power always on display yeah or else it is just
00:40:56
fingerprint black on the front it's durability it's yeah that's a lot
00:41:02
because you before you were protecting the inside screen but the outside was at least the outside and the the screens on
00:41:08
the outside get bigger and bigger and that's more and more functional but that's also more and more now you just have a glass sandwich I guess ultimately
00:41:13
that's what a regular phone is right the screen just outside I mean like it probably doesn't have as much protection
00:41:20
on the edges and you don't have a if you're a case user like most people are it's probably not protecting that screen
00:41:25
but oh yeah it's kind of weird yeah a case for that phone's gonna be weird it's just a bumper I guess yeah how long
00:41:33
do we have a folding phone that's folding screen on the inside and the outside so it's just full screen both
00:41:38
sides remember though remember like the couple years we had where every phone's like presentation was like 81 screen to
00:41:46
body ratio yeah 200 screen to body ratio that was that concept
00:41:53
uh yeah the concept phone
00:42:00
and I did make a video on that concept phone fully knowing that that's not gonna happen and it's a terrible idea
00:42:05
but it was just something that you can still buy it you can't you can't buy the alpha you can buy the alpha really yeah not dirt I don't think directly through
00:42:11
xiaomi but you can buy like you can buy them they're really expensive oh they were very protective of it and they took
00:42:18
it back as soon as I was done yeah they were like please no more touching this is a very delicate prototype we made it
00:42:24
is a weird phone wow um yeah next we've got this phone from techno which is a brand that has been
00:42:30
making some weird phones recently um they made some color changing phone last year that got everybody's attention
00:42:36
but this one is basically just a Galaxy Z fold competitor but the thing about it
00:42:42
is that it's like a thousand dollars and there's an early bird price that makes it under a thousand dollars so for the I
00:42:48
guess this would be the hot dog style foldable fold versus flip is that like
00:42:55
an official thing like yeah yeah when I hear folds this is what I think yeah it's like the first full phone that's
00:43:02
gonna come in at 9.79. yeah never mind is that not hamburger
00:43:07
full well but if you think of the flip then that's way more hamburger I feel like because it's like buns on top of
00:43:13
each other versus I was picturing the flip on its side becoming you know the longest most hot dog I feel like we're
00:43:21
thinking of like bun like how you would fold it yeah the bun folds over it you know yeah if you have
00:43:28
a piece of paper yeah yeah no you're right you're right you're right I see it now yeah you could fit a hot dog in exactly a Samsung
00:43:36
but not in the Z flip no hot dog would be out of place in a z-flip yeah but you
00:43:41
could put a hamburger patty inside of a z-flip if it was dense enough
00:43:46
[Laughter]
00:43:51
this is what they're referring to this is exactly what we're talking about off the bun off the okay
00:43:59
uh okay there's one more Link in here yeah and then the other thing was that
00:44:04
we're probably going to get a pixel fold at some point yeah so getting a ton of foldable phones this year which I think
00:44:10
is really sick and we might even have enough we were talking about this earlier we must have enough to do a best foldable phone category yeah we've been
00:44:17
debating it for a long time will there be enough folding phones that come out during the year and do we think folding
00:44:23
phones are gonna stick around long enough that we should have a best folding phone trophy specifically and
00:44:31
then will there be another year of best folding phones after I think there will be at least two two years years I was
00:44:37
like there's gonna be more than two phones there's gonna be like seven or eight this year how long until someone
00:44:43
other than Samsung wins that trophy though pixel well honestly the Oppo Find
00:44:48
and to flip might be considered a Better Built flip than Samsung so still find
00:44:55
that too also is the final view for some people is is that good it's that it's
00:45:00
that it's like the passport type instead of bigger Galaxy folder is that also
00:45:05
coming to the us this year no that was not I was largely disappointed because I was told by a source that the regular
00:45:12
friend into was coming Global at mwc and then apparently they scrapped making it
00:45:17
Global and they're gonna see how they find them to flip does globally because that's going global okay and depending
00:45:23
on how that does the regular fund and two might go Global but I'm like pressure guys the better one is the find
00:45:29
end too yeah I don't really care about the flip interesting yeah well so I think there's going to be enough do you
00:45:36
think there's 10 10 different folding phones I mean we have some old Samsung flip xiaomi fold xiaomi flip Oppo Fine
00:45:43
then two Oppo Fine and two flip yup yep that's six uh one plus if one plus comes out pixel pixel pixel this
00:45:51
techno one now there has to be one other one we're missing I just need another oh and there's also honor and there's also
00:45:57
yeah there's a Huawei Flip or fold toss the flex we're definitely a razor review there's not going to the razor V4 yeah
00:46:04
the OnePlus One probably doesn't come out this year I'm guessing right no it is coming out this year oh it's coming out there I think there's I think we've
00:46:10
got a new category all right I think it's good the category can in your like if you're worried about it lasting for
00:46:16
so long it can turn into like something else later or yeah we can just hold a
00:46:21
funeral for folding phones for the category we have a whole casket we have the design category from that ended up
00:46:27
being like wow folding flip phones might become a thing it might start winning the design category but yeah putting it in its own category is starting to make
00:46:33
more sense so yeah okay yeah yeah I like it so yeah I mean I think by the end of the year we're gonna have definitely
00:46:39
enough folding phones and I think considering there's this much uh this many phones coming out right now
00:46:45
next year I'm sure that'll be enough too and there's genuine interest at least on my part of like how the different ones
00:46:51
will do it what is a one plus folding phone gonna do different from an Oppo folding phone what is a pixel folding
00:46:56
phone gonna look like and is that gonna put pressure on some others maybe Samsung's start to look different does the outer screen get bigger all this
00:47:02
stuff yeah yet another will keep an eye on it moment yeah I think yeah for all these
00:47:08
cool and all of these are supposed to launch by the end of the year which is really awesome I'm very excited kind of sick yeah all right well that that Loops
00:47:15
us right into trivia then for our last segment let's do it
00:47:22
all right so for today's second trivia question I wanted to do another audio round so I have three sound effects this
00:47:31
time we're going um sounds and Jingles from famous tech
00:47:36
company advertising um so I'll play all three sounds right here you can let them sit in your head
00:47:42
and then at the end we can uh start make our guesses name like the company or the product the company I
00:47:49
think all three yeah all three of them are companies okay yeah I know the Coca-Cola one but that's not a tech
00:47:54
company so it's like tech company jingle yeah and uh I'll just tell you now I
00:48:01
think tech company more broadly you know what I mean like product
00:48:06
yeah metaphorically a tech company you know like Pillsbury isn't going to be in
00:48:12
here oh okay okay all right because number one
00:48:17
oh yeah easy okay I got that right so easy Andrew I actually think I have a yeah uh number
00:48:25
two yeah okay yeah and number three
00:48:34
[Music] that's a tough that one that's a tough
00:48:39
one you want an increasing order of difficulty there if you uh
00:48:45
if you think really hard about this one you will get it it's it's when I when I tell you you're gonna be like oh my gosh
00:48:51
are points one per correct guess or one for all three uh one per correct yes wow
00:48:57
opportunity arises a lot of points on the board this week we'll be right back
00:49:06
thank you all right welcome back let's talk about a short that we did on a new feature
00:49:13
there's an iPhone feature uh I just thought the reactions to it were fascinating and I feel like I ended up
00:49:19
in hot take territory so I'll just go over what happened and then my take I already can imagine I think I had a
00:49:25
similar response to When the boxes got smaller and I got kind of dumped on also and I understand we'll see if we're on
00:49:31
the same page so so this new iPhone feature iOS 16.3.1 added a toggle in the iPhone's
00:49:38
battery health settings and let me actually oh I'll pull up the video so we can all get it exactly right but it's
00:49:45
called clean energy charging and what it does and this is entirely us trusting
00:49:52
Apple at this point because I don't know how they do this but it knows when you plug in whether or not you are drawing from
00:50:00
clean energy sources or not and if it detects that you're in part of like some routine charging like let's say you plug
00:50:06
in at 11 PM it will wait until you are charging from cleaner energy sources to
00:50:12
start your charge or speed up your charge when this does happen you'll get a notification and you can override it
00:50:18
anytime you want but the idea is this is a opt out feature meaning it is on by
00:50:24
default flipped on for every iPhone in the US that just updated their software
00:50:29
so Me by myself leaving this feature on is not going to meaningfully impact my
00:50:34
carbon footprint I charge I drive an electric car like me charging my phone at a slightly different time is not going to matter but Apple flipping the
00:50:42
switch for every iPhone in the US collectively gives them something to
00:50:47
brag about because they just took the equivalent of you know a million cars off the road or something crazy I think they're going to
00:50:53
say probably at their next iPhone keynote what it did but they get to say that we made this
00:50:58
free change to the iPhone that made nobody's experience worse theoretically and saved a ton of the environment as
00:51:06
it's just like a a rare win for the environment coming from a mega company like Apple so my take was this is a good thing but
00:51:15
when I made this short all the comments were thanks for pointing this out I turned it off immediately because I was like obviously people don't want their
00:51:22
charging to slow down or be interrupted when it's inconvenient to them but I mean the idea is you don't even notice
00:51:27
the features on which I think is what apple is planning on I'm curious if you guys feel the same way yeah so I mean there is a there's a thing that happens
00:51:35
where if your phone is on the charger and it's not pulling from clean energy sources it just won't charge it'll have
00:51:41
a little thing that comes up that says by the way this is a dirty energy source uh you can bypass this setting and just
00:51:47
hit charge now um I want to see like tweet at us if you
00:51:53
ever get that notification get this notification yeah I am really curious I'm wondering what points of the night
00:52:00
or the day your house or wherever you are is going to be pulling from Dirty energy sources and I would like to know
00:52:06
this I get a letter from like Con Edison like every month being like you can pay a little bit more yeah to make sure that
00:52:13
you pull from clean energy sources more often it costs a little bit more money but your carbon footprint your conscience your conscience
00:52:20
um so yeah I think like you said one iPhone especially in a phone that has you know like a 4 000 million dollar
00:52:27
battery it's not gonna do much yeah but if you turn it on for like every single
00:52:32
iPhone in the United States collectively it will do something theoretically and the interesting the most interesting
00:52:38
thing about this to me is that it was it's opt out yeah it's rare it's very
00:52:44
rare that companies will turn something on by default and you have to turn it off because usually that makes people
00:52:50
really upset especially when it affects their charging yeah apple knows nobody would have turned this on yeah yeah
00:52:56
so for them to go through all the r d which I suspect is a lot located for
00:53:01
them to like location based decide when your your energy is going to be cleanerly sourced I don't even know how
00:53:08
they that's one thing I want to know is like that feels very it's like there's a lot of companies who if they said that
00:53:13
I'd be like really it might be EPA data I would bet you that the EPA requires local energy providers to say what times
00:53:21
they're providing clean energy and dirty so GPA GPS based and then like time of day yeah
00:53:27
but it also depends on your on your provider too yeah like it's different for different providers yeah
00:53:35
if you're on solar yeah I have no idea but the idea is like uh by them opting
00:53:41
everyone into it at least in the US for now um it is some level of a meaningful
00:53:47
positive change so I was like yeah this is a good thing for them to add which was turns out to be high tech people hate this they hate this so you
00:53:54
single-handedly made a bunch of people use dirtier energy I mean I put this video on uh YouTube shorts It's on Tick
00:54:02
Tock it has probably like five million views between those two five million lots of people turned it and turned off lots of people turned it off and I get
00:54:09
it people don't want that possibility of like any it also kind of feels like guilting because the way they phrased it
00:54:15
it's like the iPhone will try to reduce your carbon footprint yeah which if they just phrased it just a little different
00:54:21
like apple would try to reduce iPhones global yeah carbon footprint or something like
00:54:27
that maybe it would have felt a little different but it's like I don't need you trying to help my carbon footprint I mean that's that's what like the whole
00:54:33
us basically is in terms of like Recycling and everything right it's like let's make the user think it's their fault when it's Mega Millions that are
00:54:40
totally the term carbon footprint was created by what shell as like a way to Gaslight people into thinking that
00:54:46
global warming is their fault when like 85 of global warming comes from like 10 corporations or something I I will say
00:54:53
that's like random numbers it's around there it's pretty it's really bad yeah but I'll say and this kind of can also
00:54:59
loop back into when I made a similar comment to the reducing the size of boxes I ultimately thought it was a good
00:55:06
thing I do think this is a good thing and I do think good things can happen even if
00:55:12
Apple's end goal isn't to be good there is incentive for them to do this which
00:55:17
like the boxes it was saving apple a ton of money right right we still got a beneficial environmental impact from
00:55:23
them saving a ton of money yeah so there's definitely some incentive somewhere here I don't know what it is I
00:55:28
don't know if it's so they can say their net zero emissions or it can help their numbers on carbon emissions and stuff
00:55:34
like that there's definitely tax breaks or whatever or just towards something exactly so it is in their interest to do
00:55:41
this not in the world's interest but the world still benefits right yeah which I'm okay it's similar to like people who
00:55:48
donate a bunch of money on YouTube it's effective something yeah something good still happens
00:55:53
there may be an ulterior motive of it but I don't care because something could happen and that may have not happened
00:55:59
yeah I think most of the comments of people objecting to it were like apple you could do so much more you could
00:56:04
Source batteries better you could do all these other things but it also kind of feels like when like a billionaire donates to charity in a very public way
00:56:11
or like oh I see what you're doing here but you did also just do a really good thing and enable a lot of things to be
00:56:17
better about the world so I guess I can't be mad so it's a good thing I'm happy it happened I don't need to relentlessly applaud them first I guess
00:56:24
yeah yeah we'll see I I bet and maybe I don't know do we have like a tally of like running bits of things I do but I
00:56:31
haven't been adding it to the league but I should somebody in the comments are on Twitter keep an eye on this I I'm pretty
00:56:39
sure they're going to in the next year say in an iPhone related keynote what this I I it's probably dubbed up tons of
00:56:46
CO2 removed from the environment or cars taken off the road yeah equivalent something like that I bet at WWDC maybe
00:56:52
I will definitely too quick just looking it up just to like clarify how they're doing this
00:56:58
um all the sources I've been finding say that your iPhone gets a forecast of the carbon emissions in your local energy
00:57:03
grid and uses it to charge your phone during times of cleaner energy production meaning like off-peak times
00:57:11
is probably not dependent on your provider they're all pulling from the same grid but using different providers
00:57:18
so the clean energy versus dirty energy is independent of your provider maybe I don't know maybe because yeah I don't
00:57:24
know enough about this yeah to say definitively like when I Wireless charge my phone in my car and my car is
00:57:30
charging on a Tesla Supercharger what happens then like I just I don't know I think it's going to change also a lot
00:57:36
City by City because every city has a different relationship with different Power suppliers and Distributors and
00:57:42
anyone who lives in Philadelphia knows endlessly like how complicated this is yeah yeah New York just shut down a
00:57:48
nuclear plant which was like one of their less clean energy sources or something and I don't know yeah it's
00:57:53
controversial I don't know enough about it to have an opinion don't don't uh cancel me I'm counting stop canceling
00:57:59
Marquez start canceling David I'm counting this as a positive switch flipped which is rare in apple land that
00:58:07
we can all agree that Apple did something independently load that is great for the environment so I'm just counting this as like a good
00:58:13
thing I'm just giving it one of the few things that has opt out that is actually yeah probably that's actually most
00:58:18
opt-out things are like really bad yeah like yeah it's they have to do opt out because no one in their right mind would
00:58:25
ever put it it's so rare that they add a feature even like with the iPhone when they added all these lock screen
00:58:30
features and all this stuff with the new version of iOS you have to find it yeah like they don't automatically start
00:58:36
adding widgets to your like all the stuff that gets added to the especially with apple they keep the iPhone so
00:58:41
simple yeah and so like if you want to find something and add it then you can do it but everything will be in a
00:58:48
setting for you to enable later and the stuff that they do with batteries which is there's this one thing that they already do which is if you charge at the
00:58:55
same time every day and you have an alarm for the next morning it will not charge your phone all the way up right away it'll charge to 80 and then wait
00:59:02
until an hour before your alarm clock's gonna go off and then charge the last little bit because it doesn't want to be at 100 all the time lots of good reasons
00:59:08
for that that's one of the rare things that it'll just start doing automatically I just found it fascinating that that was like
00:59:15
I'm very curious like you who's gonna get this notification yeah and how many people will actually see it and and
00:59:21
we'll see another one more time we'll see how this goes we'll see how it pans
00:59:26
out a sound effect for that yeah it's starting to we'll probably have a button on the on the road Caster let's see how
00:59:32
this goes but that's that's kind of it we have a couple other small things uh there's a new Google keep widget which
00:59:38
we'll put this in just for you well I'm not going to use Google keep I love it okay but I do every day really yeah is
00:59:44
it your to-do list app yes it is really because you can't set reminders can you I don't know it's just like a checklist
00:59:50
thing don't look at David's Google keep it gives me anxiety you want to see my YouTube maybe I'm not going to show it
00:59:56
publicly to the audience but I'll blur it out just take a screenshot okay well the new feature is you can add a widget
01:00:03
with your to-do list with functional check boxes to your home screen
01:00:08
all those are active notes uh yep yeah you don't even code them and they're all check boxes yeah but it's got a really
01:00:15
good search feature have you seen my tab management it's fair yeah Andrew let's go I actually recently
01:00:23
moved a lot of my kept Google image plus number just randomly in here I did I've done a lot of this I re I
01:00:30
moved a lot of that stuff into notion and I have like a section for things that I keep long term I have my like
01:00:36
Mileage Plus number or like backup passwords but it's literally called Google keep you should be keeping them in keep well I have some stuff the one
01:00:43
thing weirdly that I've kept there is in golf I have like my stock yardages for all my clubs so when I'm playing I pull
01:00:50
up the document and it's got like 7R and 185 six iron 195 5 iron 205 and I can
01:00:55
just like pull it up know the yardage and I that's like the thing that I keep there I don't do the shopping list thing
01:01:01
I don't do the to-do list thing I I don't use Cape that much well the news is the the widget for keep yeah they can
01:01:09
now be on your home screen right it just kind of lets you check stuff off yeah I think if you couldn't do that before yeah yeah so now you can have like uh
01:01:16
you can have like a shopping list and you check it off on your home screen instead of having to be in the apps you know what's cool that you can do on
01:01:22
Google keep that like I saw recently that I didn't know you could do is or keep users baby you can take a picture
01:01:28
of like your shopping list unlike a whiteboard yeah you can change it into text and add check boxes onto it so like
01:01:36
you can do a grocery list that easy and now you can add it to your home screen we should do a short on this I think it's uh
01:01:42
okay yeah Google keep power user hidden features let's go yeah I love how our
01:01:48
user features yeah I use it all the time one last thing Microsoft brings phone link that lets you now use iMessage from
01:01:56
your PC is this better or worse than Eric what is the the thing on the error message
01:02:01
error message yes is this actually so the difference is that for error message to work you have to have a Mac server
01:02:08
because it's passing the information through the server into the cloud and then to your phone yeah whereas this is
01:02:14
a Bluetooth uh handshake that is connecting your phone to your window
01:02:20
your iPhone to your Windows computer via Bluetooth and then it's just passing the information through your through your
01:02:26
iPhone over Bluetooth to the Windows computer it shows your iMessages on your
01:02:31
computer but it is only messages that you've gotten and sent since you
01:02:37
connected in that session so you won't have a history as soon as you disconnect they go yeah that was my question
01:02:42
because I could understand not having all your previous messages when you first joined but then every time I close
01:02:47
my laptop oh that's terrible yeah um you can't do group messages and you
01:02:53
can't send photos so it's literally like you are just texting but it happens to show up as a
01:02:59
blue bubble on the other person's phone well I guess and it's like it's happening while you're working like if
01:03:04
you don't want your phone up like if you want a separate chat log on the side but no picture sounds crazy like that's
01:03:09
something I would love to just because I have dragons yeah I have like way more pictures on there that I've edited or
01:03:15
whatever that I want to send to somebody in Windows has already integrated um iCloud photo like I iCloud photo
01:03:23
um backup through their photos app I believe so you can sync iCloud photos through on Windows now but it's not
01:03:30
within phone link so that's pretty frustrating um it's possible they could like bundle them in the future but error message
01:03:36
which is what I've been using to be able to send iMessages through an Android phone allows you to do the full
01:03:42
resolution photos and videos that you can do on iMessage it allows you to do group messages which is huge uh the only
01:03:49
thing you can't do right now on error message is uh react to messages but you do get reactions you just can't react
01:03:56
back yet it's also funny because just regular RCS lets you react to iMessages yeah this is what I was going to say well
01:04:02
yeah I guess that's through Android right so this is specifically for people who have iPhones but have Windows computers which I know that doesn't seem
01:04:09
like there's a lot of those people oh no there aren't um yeah I guess there are yeah I have a couple friends um that
01:04:14
work in like finance that work at my Cafe a lot and they have iPhones for their phone but they are issued like a
01:04:20
Lenovo laptop that yeah they can only use that for work yeah so I mean if you want to be able to text from your
01:04:27
computer and you have an iPhone but you have a Windows laptop then I guess it's beneficial it's just like annoying that
01:04:32
it wipes it every session and can't do images and can't do group messages and all that stuff to start it's a start
01:04:37
it's a start we'll start you know what I'm gonna say already trivia we'll keep an eye on that we'll see how this goes
01:04:45
uh I want to give a quick shout out to uh Hassan minosh who had me on The Daily Show he's hosting a daily show this week
01:04:51
and he came to the studio and we shot something briefly and it was really fun we'll put a link in the show notes it's
01:04:56
he hates Tech I'm the tech guy that Synergy was hilarious so check that
01:05:02
video out uh but we should wrap it up with those trivia answers let's get to it sure yeah I did trivia yeah dude my
01:05:10
marker's over there because I threw it up all right so first question what was the
01:05:17
name of rivian the company before it was called Vivian [Music]
01:05:25
and their writing writing on the boards deep looks of concentration
01:05:34
time's running out [Music] do you have your answers man I don't
01:05:40
know this one I have no idea I actually am very curious what the answer is but I don't know what it is
01:05:45
well there's two okay there's two all right flip him and read hold on I'm still writing my
01:05:50
explanation oh my God okay well we can still get the points yeah yeah
01:05:56
I mean we're both wrong I know that much yours is closer than mine I wrote Caribbean
01:06:02
no I wrote R1 no yeah nope Amazon okay
01:06:08
I'm just gonna say it so it was gonna be the name but then okay I just can't
01:06:15
remember the name and they they were gonna call it that but then another car company released a model of their car
01:06:21
which was the same name as the car that rivian was the company that Riven was
01:06:28
going to call their company model I I don't know that to be true so I don't have any now any sounds for that
01:06:34
budget let's hear it there it is I can I can also explain why it's called Arabian why is it called ripping yeah because
01:06:42
it's a common it's a mash of the word River with something regarding iin
01:06:50
um Ian it was like a thing oh like a like an Amazon River thing I don't know
01:06:55
but it was River was it's a word play on Indian River in Florida oh yeah where RJ
01:07:01
grew up RJ being the CEO so River and Indian yeah Indian River Indian River
01:07:08
interesting yeah but no didn't get the answer all right so the correct answer yeah what is that I didn't get the
01:07:14
answer so it was first started as mainstream Motors and then it was renamed in 2011 to Avera Automotive yeah
01:07:22
and then it became ravian that was worried one of the names are going to be I would like it more than rivian so I'm
01:07:29
glad I like mainstream Motors is terrible terrible awful and then Avera
01:07:34
is funny there is a nivera by rumette yeah but that you know to RJ's um credit
01:07:40
he like started the company in his garage when he was in like high school or something like true this guy's crazy
01:07:45
but he um yeah there's a how I built this episode with guy raw is about rivian that goes into detail about all
01:07:52
of this stuff so I should have them on we should talk about that novel idea yeah see how it goes we'll keep an eye on
01:07:59
that all right this is the sound one isn't it do you want us to put all three on the
01:08:04
board at once no one one at a time for sure yeah I'll do one at a time okay I am very confident about one of them
01:08:09
number one [Applause]
01:08:16
no one needs to hear it again no no nope that might be wrong but I also am kind
01:08:23
of hoping I'm right okay good that's what I put so I wrote both names oh get the did you
01:08:29
just write it no wait no no he did start writing before yeah but I can check the tape I didn't I feel like it should be
01:08:35
specific I well it's singular which turned into a t but yeah so they kept it
01:08:42
yes so they did keep singing I don't think they got it I don't think they don't really got it either yeah all of
01:08:49
us yeah you're all wrong it's T-Mobile that's T-Mobile sound I really thought
01:08:55
that was a singular sound I need to play the song I'm glad I'm glad I wasn't totally out of
01:09:00
also singular is a pretty good name for a brand it is like the only brand you need singular brand even though it's
01:09:06
spelled differently [Music]
01:09:11
yes singular
01:09:17
that's it's not no it's not a ringtone it's like the it's like what it plays like at the commercial when it shows the
01:09:23
logo are you sure you guys are just thinking of T-Mobile that's weird I guess it is T-Mobile huh
01:09:29
wait was that the same noise when you wrote down singular I had to think for a second I was like did
01:09:35
singular at any point become T-Mobile but it didn't it became attitude yeah
01:09:40
wow we just all were that was collectively wrong Effect called when you think something you miss remember
01:09:47
seeing Bears yeah the Mandela no it's crazy that we all thought it was Singularity yeah we just mandelid
01:09:53
ourselves I bet the comment sections can be like how did you not know it was T-Mobile but I bet other people definitely thought it was T-Mobile and
01:09:59
or thought it was ATT and singular at T Mobile all right sound number two that wasn't it
01:10:05
who played that David David
01:10:10
[Music] will your confidence betray you on round
01:10:16
two no now I'm not so sure yeah now I'm not so sure Verizon
01:10:22
oh no now I'm really not so sure would you like to hear it again no yes please
01:10:29
oh no oh no now this is part of it oh no Marquez
01:10:36
I'm crossing out this one is legendarily burned into most people's brains I think
01:10:42
I'm right but I'm I was so sure about the last one that I'm not as Billy Joel would say you may
01:10:48
be right you may be crazy [Music] I'm Mandela okay all right flip them I'm
01:10:55
ready oh no oh I'm wrong Intel [Music]
01:11:00
Intel [Music] Gateway
01:11:05
oh okay it hurts just as much When You're Expecting did you save yourself because you were like this is burned
01:11:12
into people yeah because every time I'd open my damn laptop it would be like oh
01:11:19
yeah this one was especially tricky because this sound would get played at the end of commercials that were made by
01:11:25
companies that weren't Intel it's Intel I so badly wanted to raise it until inside yeah like I wanted to write
01:11:31
inside so bad all right for round number three the tricky one dig deep into your
01:11:37
memories oh boy I promise if this is singular
01:11:44
are you ready yeah
01:11:49
[Music] I have heard that before I also heard that that's sound played on
01:11:56
one particular device I'm not expecting the device um but versions of that song are used
01:12:02
for this brand throughout time can you play one more time I most certainly can at least
01:12:08
[Music]
01:12:22
what okay and just can you play it again can you
01:12:27
play it again yes just a company
01:12:32
the company is all I need [Music]
01:12:39
you want a hint yeah they make Hardware I thought
01:12:44
helpful thanks Alice um they make exclusively Hardware
01:12:52
that sounds so familiar that is a core memory for my childhood
01:12:57
I like that guitar strum at the beginning boom it's a good sound it's
01:13:03
memorable you know it's funny I played a company and then went no I think it's this and then realized that was made by
01:13:08
the company I put down all right okay give me like another second oh we have the song just so you could you have
01:13:14
to finish before the end of the song oh is that what it was yeah oh yeah [Laughter]
01:13:21
three all right two one flipped okay okay three different answers here
01:13:28
before you guys read no changing your answers I'm just curious does this jog your memory
01:13:37
yeah that's what I was picturing I was gonna ask you that is that is the extended version of what I
01:13:43
just played you crap I still don't know what that is let's read it it's like the Orchestral Version what did you put I
01:13:49
wrote Gateway Sony I wrote LG
01:13:55
um the answer was Nokia and the sound that I played you 808
01:14:02
ringtone what was the 710 uh commercial jingle and startup sound
01:14:08
um [Music] some songs like orchestral sound or
01:14:14
whatever which is like locked in my brain they play so many different remixes of that exact same sound for
01:14:21
everything commercial everything they do that it's incredible it must be like
01:14:27
I'm glad you brought this up can I play you five seconds of my favorite Samsung
01:14:33
remix of one of their ringtones ever okay this is incredible [Music] this is a live band version of the
01:14:39
Galaxy ringtone
01:14:47
[Music]
01:14:54
there's like a whole music video like the bands in the studio it's incredible
01:14:59
we'll put that in the show notes that's incredible they have a lot of versions is there a video there's a video of this
01:15:05
yeah yeah no one got any points what no we got
01:15:11
Intel we both got Intel oh yeah so you guys got two points okay Marquez didn't get anything I got no points
01:15:18
which is rough um that's okay we'll see how it goes
01:15:24
until it's like your version of ride the wave we'll see how we'll see how trivia
01:15:29
goes it'll be okay uh we got plenty more weeks of it coming up for me to catch up either way that's been it let me know in
01:15:35
the comments the questions that we asked you of course because I have plenty of questions like do you ever see that notification either way catch you guys
01:15:41
in the next one base waveform was produced by Adam Molina and Ellis Robin we are partnering with the VOX media podcast Network and
01:15:46
our intro outdoor music was created by vayne cell wall this is a different outro music but vayne still could probably do this too
01:15:53
foreign
01:16:09
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Episode Highlights

  • Tesla Superchargers Open to Non-Tesla EVs
    Tesla has retrofitted select superchargers to allow non-Tesla electric vehicles to charge. This change could revolutionize road trips for all EVs.
    “More EVs are now possible to road trip with!”
    @ 04m 38s
    March 03, 2023
  • Charging Etiquette at Superchargers
    With multiple EV types charging at superchargers, new etiquette rules may emerge to maximize efficiency. The arrival of non-Tesla vehicles complicates the charging process.
    “It's like the urinal and they're like it's gonna become this unwritten rule.”
    @ 07m 01s
    March 03, 2023
  • Concept Motorola Riser Phone
    The Moto Riser is a rollable phone that sparks debate about its practicality and name.
    “Riser is actually a throwback to an old flip phone.”
    @ 22m 22s
    March 03, 2023
  • OnePlus Concept Phone
    OnePlus showcases a concept phone with a cryoflux cooling system that looks cool but doesn't perform well.
    “This concept phone doesn't actually cool the phone better than normal.”
    @ 28m 41s
    March 03, 2023
  • Lenovo's Rollable Laptop
    Lenovo introduces a rollable laptop that expands its screen height, offering a unique aspect ratio.
    “Imagine being in Starbucks and your screen just slowly rolls up.”
    @ 40m 02s
    March 03, 2023
  • Foldable Phone Competition
    The market is heating up with new foldable phones, including a Pixel Fold and Oppo Find.
    “We might even have enough to do a best foldable phone category!”
    @ 44m 10s
    March 03, 2023
  • Apple's Clean Energy Charging
    Apple introduces a feature that charges iPhones based on clean energy availability, but users are divided on its utility.
    “This is a good thing, but people hate this!”
    @ 51m 15s
    March 03, 2023
  • Trivia Time
    The hosts dive into a fun trivia session, testing their knowledge on tech brands and sounds.
    “I mean, we're both wrong, I know that much!”
    @ 01h 05m 56s
    March 03, 2023
  • Rivian's Name Origins
    Discover the interesting history behind Rivian's name changes from Mainstream Motors to Rivian.
    “It was a mash of the word River with something regarding Indian.”
    @ 01h 06m 42s
    March 03, 2023

Episode Quotes

  • It's like the urinal and they're like it's gonna become this unwritten rule.
    Tesla Opens its Superchargers and Weird MWC Gadgets?
  • These portable powerhouses can keep cool under pressure.
    Tesla Opens its Superchargers and Weird MWC Gadgets?
  • I think there's potential for rolling screens.
    Tesla Opens its Superchargers and Weird MWC Gadgets?
  • This is what they're referring to!
    Tesla Opens its Superchargers and Weird MWC Gadgets?
  • It's a start!
    Tesla Opens its Superchargers and Weird MWC Gadgets?
  • Wow, we just all were that was collectively wrong.
    Tesla Opens its Superchargers and Weird MWC Gadgets?

Key Moments

  • Road Trip Adventures01:24
  • Trivia Time18:39
  • MWC Announcements21:20
  • Moto Riser Concept21:50
  • OnePlus Cryoflux27:47
  • Lenovo Rollable Laptop37:03
  • Apple's Charging Feature49:38
  • Rivian Origins1:06:42

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Tesla Roadster and Fisker Ocean Updates?
The Next iPhone Will Be…Orange?
August 01, 2025
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The Next iPhone Will Be…Orange?
The New Teslas Are a Bad Deal
October 10, 2025
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The New Teslas Are a Bad Deal
WWDC Predictions and the New Motorola Razr Plus
June 02, 2023
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WWDC Predictions and the New Motorola Razr Plus
Google might have to sell Chrome!
November 22, 2024
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Google might have to sell Chrome!
Everything Changing on the iPhone 15
August 04, 2023
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Everything Changing on the iPhone 15
We Love/Hate These Apps!
November 08, 2024
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We Love/Hate These Apps!
Why Are Some iPhones Turning Pink?
October 24, 2025
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Why Are Some iPhones Turning Pink?