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wait is it double in size of the of the size of the of the original size or of the new size of the new size I think
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it's each time they just double size double double dou how does anything get
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32,768 times they're probably born like that big maybe microscopic got but even
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even if it was a one a single cell organism and then by the end of its life it had
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32,768 C that makes sense it's 1 cm across when it's moles for the first
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time then it's 32 32 M acoss huge it can't be it's got to be tiny when 33 meter
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[Music] croad all right what is up people of the internet welcome back to another episode
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of the way for podcast it's 2024 we're your hosts I'm Marquez I'm Andrew and
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I'm David and uh kicking off this New Year actually Ellis and Adam are both at
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the same time on welld deserved just kidding just kidding they are taking breaks so we have new producer in the
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house today Mariah on the board that's a she's rubbing her hands together like
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she's got devious plans she's got too much she's learned the board already
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ready but I don't know if you're ready a lot of power a lot of power over there
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but uh yeah we we're back to all the tech news catching up to everything there was a obviously a fun show for the
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end of last year but now there's a bunch of news that we got to catch up on a
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little bit so we have an update on the Apple watch ban the car that got announced which I have thoughts about
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some of the announcements uh Samsung unpacked is also in it's it's right in
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front of us yeah it's about it's about to kick off the year like CES and
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unpacked we know it's happening and we also want to wrap up with uh some of our
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favorite tech from last year yeah we got some some individual picks none of us know each other's picks either yeah we
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hit it so there may be some hot takes I don't know what you guys picked and possibly some overlap possibly that's a
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good point so we'll get there but before we start uh we have to talk about a
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video that I'm sure we've all watched uh Tom Scott who we've had on the podcast
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before released a video uh saying after 10 years it's time to stop making videos
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that's the title of this video it's more of a retrospective on his last 10 years
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of not missing a single day of weekly uploads which I just want to say that's
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a lot harder than you think insane like it sounds pretty hard but it's even harder than you think to do every single
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week and especially the the quality of videos that he gets to do and some of fun stuff that he produces I think you
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described that well it is very hard when you think about it and it is still harder than what you think about it yeah
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he said something in that video that I resonated a lot with which is you you sometimes you get to weeks where you
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don't really have much and you kind of think you might have to put out filler
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but you can't uh make worse production quality than you usually do you only you
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only have to go up you only have the ability to go up because the audience is used to better and better stuff so he
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just kept topping himself over and over again for 10 years which is pretty impressive yeah you know what's crazy
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about Tom Scott you know that red shirt that he wears mhm so he only wears that red shirt which is crazy I I went back
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in his discography and just like saw everything all of his videos he's always
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wearing that red shirt and that gray hoodie too is like his maybe it's a little chili outside I'll wear the
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hoodie the ex that exact red shirt my grandpa always used to wear and he gave me when he died and I wore that for like
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three years like exact same one exact same one but it was like before Tom Scott started making videos when I was a
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kid I used it as like a night before Tom Scott made it cool yeah we were cool I was a Fruit of the Loom red shirt
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hipster how do you know that it's the same yeah it's the same I wore that
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shirt for like 3 years you just looked at it and you knew I knew Tom if you're
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listening Thief send me your shirt you're done making videos give away the shirt but shout out
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to Tom if you haven't watched his videos If you also haven't watched him
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absolutely destroy the alphabet typing test which was one of most impressive things he's still won on our leaderboard
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right now by like a full second spoiler alert he he crushed it and so you should
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watch that episode yeah if only to see that he also still will make videos he has other channels and I think he said
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he will come back to his eventually but just not keeping that he's taking a break and not doing the weekly upload
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stuff anymore yeah he's going to still make videos he's just not forcing
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himself to make videos he has a fun podcast too that I was on where it's sort of like a game show type thing yeah
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I've listened to it before so if you enjoy our game show moments you might enjoy that one too um I thought it would
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be fun cuz he has so many videos and I know we all watch them if we all named our favorite one from him just in case
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somebody out there doesn't watch him and wants a good idea for one okay yeah do
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you want to go first sure since Marquez is obviously searching now I'm going on
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right now uh he has a video called this video has X views but the X updates every time
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there's a view basically which crazy uh it currently has over 70 million views
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so if you go on YouTube and search Tom Scott this video has X views it'll show
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up and it'll just be updated with the current view count yeah and it's funny
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he uh he wrote some code basically that just consistently updates it and in the video he's like this will probably break
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around like 3 million views or so and it just never broke it's just still going
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which is amazing um so I think I think that was pretty cool it was it was pretty early on into like YouTube giving
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public features being able to do stuff and uh it's cool that YouTube never like
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saw that and then stopped it from being able to do that and actually now YouTube
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does live view counts so when you're watching a video The Views literally tick up so yeah like that one that's
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definitely been copied since then as well I've seen multiple ones of like this get this video needs this many or
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like something like that that's like live reacting to it but yeah yeah it's a
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good one I have one that I'll always remember because it's just like his
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videos are awesome because there these little tiny pieces of information that are fun to like throw out there he has
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one called um I visited Yellowstone zone of death which is okay a very short video and essentially because of the the
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way the sixth amendment is worded in the US where if you are in trial for being accused of a crime you need an impartial
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jury of the state and District because Yellowstone is a federal district and one of the only Federal districts that
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crosses state lines there's this like one M strip in Idaho where federally it's considered the Yellowstone district
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and by state it's considered Idaho and there are no people who live there so
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you technically couldn't get a jury to have a trial if you committed a crime
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there so why doesn't everyone kill everyone I'm sure I'm sure if it actually went to court it would probably
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be they would find a way to do it but it's very funny because he went there and like I think in the description of
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the video he's like um a car did drive by and I was very nervous when it happened and he it's like a six-minute
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video and he was in and out as fast as possible well now I know where to bury a body perfect well you have to commit the
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crime there as well oh I could do that well there is no cops so I guess uh anyone ever invites you there do not
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go um I do have one that I remember and this was this one's a much older one
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it's 6 years old but uh there are a couple of these in the world but certain
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roads where when you drive on them the ridges in the road create music I remember this video and he made yeah he
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made a video about uh when that's in California and how it kind of sounds terrible because if you drive at the
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wrong speed it's out of speed it just doesn't it's not it's not it doesn't
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work very well yeah but it's still cool that it's a thing right I thought that
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was F I feel like that's cool that it's a thing when you if you drive on that
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road once if that happens to be the commute I mean it be fun I don't know is
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it only the sides in the rumble ship or it's it's only on the sides right okay
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so you have to purposely go off the road a little bit decide to do it okay cool that's fun do you have one Mariah did
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you know we were going fan favorite is the Tom Scott vape pen clip highlight of him choking on the vape pen
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I'll send it if you haven't seen it choking on you never SE it's so fun 15
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seconds of yeah it's just him coughing what's the video again it doesn't matter
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what the video is don't even know yeah that is a thing that that also happened
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and was memed relentlessly honestly I also give him a lot of credit for filming most of his videos
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outside yes because that's just a nightmare with like wind and light and the fact that he does most of them
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outside is a big and we talked about it on the podcast but I think he's the best
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teleprompter reader I've ever seen for real like ever yeah there was a great
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snippet of the podcast where he talked about that where he just like got really good at it cuz you always wonder like
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there there's all these videos where he's just standing on a beach and he's
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just walking towards you on the beach and he talks for like 20 minutes and you're just like how yeah how did you do
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this and he he talked about it in a pod so go watch that but basically he writes
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in the same style that he talks so because he writes everything he's able to just talk naturally in a way that
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feels like he's just talking yeah it's really good it's hard to do it's hard to
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do when I write scripts I definitely like I go back over it and speak them out and then change the words to make it
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sound more like I'm actually talking yeah yeah if you don't know Tom Scott go
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watch his channel and some heavy sh there's a lot of stuff when you publish every week you just kind of cover this
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insanely broad swath of topics and he covers it very well but yeah all right so we have an update yet again because
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this is the waveform update podcast where things happen and then they change yeah it is an unfortunate truth
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that we record on Wednesdays and things happen in between Wednesday and Wednesday so we have an update on the
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Apple watch band yeah uh the last time we talked about this was two weeks ago because last week we had pre-recorded
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the uh end of the year episode so that we could take a week off for Christmas but basically at uh the last episode
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where we talked about this the Apple watch was about to get banned um it did very temporarily uh they were actually
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off sale online starting on December 21st and they were out of stores starting on December 26th I heard it was
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a lot of fun for employees to like go through all the stores and take them off the shelves and off of the display
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tables and put them back yeah and I hadn't thought of it that they have to do that right around Christmas which is
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like hundreds of people buying last minute gifts at the Apple store so yeah Kudos shout out to all the Apple retail
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employees out there that probably had a rough week I hope you're relaxing now
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yeah no no so the update basically is that they actually did take it off sale for a little bit but then uh Apple
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basically made a software update that they think will be able to get around the patent infringement so they
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submitted that software update to the International Trade Commission to see if that was enough to get around um and in
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the interim period they are now allowed to sell the Apple watch again until January 12th when the ITC decides
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whether or not that software update was enough uh if it's not back off sale they're going to have to change out a
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hardware piece it's probably going to take a long time to do that um Apple probably has a pretty quick supply chain
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considering it's apple and a huge amount of their wearable sales as Apple watch
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yeah but uh yeah part of me would want to think like oh well they'll just discontinue it till the series 10 but
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the series 10 is definitely being made already like yeah so that's that's a
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great Point actually that's a very big problem a very Tim Cook thing thing like
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he's a supply chain Guy this is a very supply chain annoying problem to have
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for that company so they're probably trying to brainstorm way I mean I'm sure
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they've been thinking about this but now they need to figure out a way to continue to sell watches until the new
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watch comes out but not make it like too much of an announcement because you don't want to have an announcement for a
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new watch that's on sale right before the new new watch is on sale so there's
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there's question marks there the software update thing would definitely be the most idealistic thing for them
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because then they could just update all the series 10s that they're making right
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now is that do we is that pushed that software update or they just submitted it they submitted it to the ITC to see
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if it's like enough mimo still thinks that they need a hardware change obviously do you think they're just
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disabling the blood oxygen features and like call it in a day I don't I don't
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think they'll do that so last time when we did talk about that I actually got a
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lot of people I said I thought blood oxygen was fairly irrelevant and a lot of people told me what they really liked
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it for and apparently sleep apnea and sleeping and how you're breathing when
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you're sleeping it does a good job at at telling if you have a hard time during
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that and it helped people diagnose sleep AP that is actually cool and pretty damn
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common we got a lot of comments saying like this is actually way more helpful than you guys think which is surprising
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um it's interesting seeing like a bunch of people in the real world who are saying it is and then us who's saying it
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not so thank you for letting us know if it's useful to you yeah there's definitely going to be people that it's
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useful for it might be a vocal minority thing where it's it's a small fraction
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of people but the people who do find it useful really like like it so they're
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vocal about it totally makes sense uh but yeah Apple's going to try to keep it
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in there cuz that's it's a feature that they've advertised and talked about and
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means a lot so yeah I think I've come to my own conclusion that I find it hard to
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not see just Massimo that's their name getting a big old check soon from Apple
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yeah they say they' reached out to Apple and just offered to have them pay them
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and that Apple never replied because I think Apple just doesn't want to lose
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they got a little bit of Leverage now lot of Leverage that's going to be a fat
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check if that's what happens it's funny cuz them you could see why they wouldn't
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want to do it because if if one company successfully does it and gets a check then every other company's like huh I
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wonder what we can get a check for so they just want to not have it work but now that they've let it get this far
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masimo has a ton of we yeah because masimo took the very long process of getting to this point of having lots of
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governing bodies agree with them and yeah I mean that's just wild to force Apple to take an Apple Watch off the
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shelves like that is gigantic I know there's so many lawsuits against apple and nothing ever happens so yeah so
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unfortunately uh for you guys the pause lasts until exactly one week from today next Friday so next week we probably
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still won't have an update unless unless they figure it out before Friday but I
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think they're going to figure it out on Friday so in two weeks you'll probably
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know uh whether or not the Apple watch is still for sale or not um but that's
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the update for now and we try to do our best to keep you as up toate as we can yeah but time moves so moves quick moves
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quick faster than we edit moves quick so we'll keep our eye on it with that let's
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uh let's take it to a quick trivia and AD break oh Mariah was ready for that
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trivia on the trigger for that oneck all right CES is right around the corner ladies and gentlemen it's
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happening um the Consumer Electronics Show is known for having some crazy inventions and Tech products but CES is
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also known for destroying your inbox with PR emails yes which of these products is not a real product that I've
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received an email about oh God so option A is Flappy and intelligent cat door flap for your door definitely real um
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option b is Willow a smart wooden swing set that generates electricity for your backyard that's hold it for later hold
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it for later sorry uh option C Jedi which is a medical delivery drone for hospitals and option D which is saber a
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smart pepper spray device save your thoughts forat I just want to say s is the only time where we
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can do name the fake one versus name the real one cuz normally Ellis has to make
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three fake ones but CS is so wild that that's what we can do I love it it's a
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lot I have c s TSD from going to CS2 I get it I I get it it works well we'll think about those
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for a little bit answers will be at the end as usual yeah we'll be right back all right welcome back we got to
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talk about unpacked Samsung unpacked is coming up so we already know CES starts off the year and I think for a lot of
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people that's the bookend for the tech cycle for the entire year CES at the beginning end of the year stuff for the
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end of the year but as someone who's I'll call it extremely jaded uh I've stopped paying
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as much attention to CES I kind of still hope we see cool stuff at CES yeah but I
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ultimately think there's like a couple Diamonds in the Rough but then we we start to get the Heavy Hitters moving
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out of CES into their own events I think trade shows overall are kind of losing interest like uh E3 is not even
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happening anymore it's officially dead mwc is also like kind quiet now yeah so
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I'm I'm going to watch it but I think for me it's becoming the Samsung event
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at the beginning of the year that book ends the year for me and so unpacked we have an announcement date it is well let
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me check I January 17th 17th thank you which also real quick on date does this feel like it gets pushed a week earlier
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and earlier when is it it's going to be before CES soon enough I feel like as
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long as it doesn't move before New Year's it's fine I that's what I was
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going to say though at what point does this Notch just move till December it moves forward constantly I think they
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always want to be like one of the first ones out of the gate with the new Snapdragon chipset and that's like why
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they're doing that yeah I looked last year was February 9th I believe but I I
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know it's been in January before so maybe 2022 had it but yeah I just feel like it is creeping closer and closer no
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February yeah okay yeah they just went two weeks sooner this year sick so we're
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creeping up earlier into the year but we're basically expecting some of the usual suspects S2 24 s24 plus s24 Ultra
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and then there was this announcement or a sort of a teaser that they posted that
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said Samsung AI MH and I don't love or hate this like I I kind of am looking
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forward to a lot of interesting AI things in 2024 we've had a lot of them in the past year or two but Samsung AI
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what does that mean Bixby stuff is that is that what that isan that would be interesting it would be I think that's a
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good word yeah interesting what do you think is interesting that Samsung's doing AI or do you think bixby's coming
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back well I think bixby's dead I think this is the official death of Bixby yeah
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well it could be a rebranding moment for Bixby it could be a total revamp for like Bixby is this new multimodal focus
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of the phones or it could be some totally new Samsung Ai and they just dropped the Bixby name and it's just
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Samsung AI they could be pulling a Mr Peanut where they killed Mr Peanut and then they brought they bigger and better
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as a baby Bixby interesting yeah baby Groot type stuff I don't know I'm I'm
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curious I do think the AI thing will be very heavy focused for the entire year Samsung and Google have been like
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weirdly tight knit and close for the last like three years too so like apparently assistant on like Bard with
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the Google Assistant with Bard is launching fairly soon there's there was a bunch of rumors that were going out
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this week about it launching in the like the next couple weeks or months so maybe
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they like launch it on a Galaxy Device oh yeah I mean that' be cool but they're
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calling it Samsung AI I Galaxy AI is what they called it Galaxy AI I think that's what it's called in the teaser
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yeah so I would yeah galaxy AI is coming I really don't know what that means
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that's what I think it's that's why I think Bixby is gone I think this is the
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new name let's rank this from worst possibilities to best possibilities worst possibility is it's a slight bump
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to Bixby as it already exists and it's annoyingly bad no there's a worse
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possibility but go ahead okay there's a um but I think optimistically Galaxy
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AI is a giant focus on software features that have ai behind them powering them on the phones and that can uniquely
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differentiate some of the things on this phone from other phones that come out do
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you have ideas in my eyes worst case scenario is we never get the Bixby speaker because now BX is dead still had
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hopes for it oh the Galaxy home technically it was called the Galaxy the Galaxy home AI now but um I think I
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think Bixby is gone completely um andit that's bad news is that the best case
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scenario the worst scenar for the the user experience probably best case um but yeah now yeah what is your okay so
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my my best case scenario is that they just lowkey integrate thing like Transformer models in to everything like
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apple the only the only times they've ever really mentioned AI is when they say like Transformers now are powering
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the keyboard I would love if like if Samsung keyboard got updated with like a Transformer architecture in the
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background if it was like lowkey stuff that would be great we know it's not going to be lowkey stuff this
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announcement suggests not lowkey yeah my worst case scenario okay is that they're
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going to have like an on device uh image generator and you know how they have the uh Samsung
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like memojis what do they call it yeah there's a name for it there's too many
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there it's either an emoji or or bit mimoji oh there's too many yeah they're
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probably going to like have some sort of AI mimoji thing just say Emoji but my my
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best guess is that they're going to have some random like image AI image generator for some reason cuz uh
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Qualcomm has been like consistently like putting out tests of how quickly they can make an image on device right like
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this is this is going to be a lot of the features of the phone will be dependent
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on what Snapdragon 8 gen 3 focuses on so I assume if we already had the the Snapdragon Summit already they've talked
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about okay yes the the main chips the main processors are more powerful it's
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more efficient yes but now we have all these new cores and capabilities for on device AI stuff yeah so now it's up to
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every OEM to take advantage of those to differentiate their phone o okay we're
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Samsung we're GNA have some crazy on device image generation or some large language model that does cool stuff with
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keyboard something like that they'll probably have like a wallpaper generator
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yeah yeah yeah that's I think that's kind of cooline it's cool it's flashy
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for the presentation the thing that would be not flashy that I wish it would do and maybe other phones did it and I
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feel like we talked about this with like an Amazon fire stick or something but just like a chatbot that helps you with
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just like settings and things that are going on with your phone like the setting search tab is kind of a pain in
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the ass sometimes when you don't name something exactly what it is but like Contex aware yeah if it was context
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aware and could help you actually change settings and stuff on your phone especially for people who don't know
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about phones very much it would help way more than a Verizon store because a lot
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of those people have no idea what they're talking about true um and it would help all of us from when our um
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Family calls us to help with their phone which is very hard to do when they're
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talking on that phone and you have to teach them how to do something oh good point yeah so like I would love for just
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to open the settings tab and be like why are my pictures blurry or what is this but yeah it'll probably be flashy stuff
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like camera camer photo editing maybe I think wallpapers Is AO photo editing I think is like the most obvious Magic
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Eraser or something generative Phill I don't even know what Google calls all
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this stuff yeah generative fill or like moving stuff magic magic editor Magic Eraser magic magic magic magic magic
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they'll call it Samsung AI magic something I think worst case scenario would be if Samsung created a clippy
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like creature that was Bixby that was just chilling in the bottom of your phone all the time that's
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best that's game changer for me yeah I want a little Emoji a little what would
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Bixby look like clippy 100% is the one that would look like clippy I'm I'm
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going like greenish with a clown nose like if the pillsberry Doughboy was green and an alien that's my are you
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going to ask I'm going to ask chbt to make a photo of clippy of clippy or of
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sorry Bixby okay while you're on that there were uh some very minor leaks of
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possible s24 features yeah one of them was just a straight up ad that was on like a like a counter in some retail
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store that looked like it was the s24 ultra and it looks basically just like the s23 ultra but silver maybe a
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titanium rail yeah so from the back it looks exactly the same as the s23 ultra there is a rumor that it might have a
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totally flat front which I'd be happy about I think that would be awesome because they've been getting slightly
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more flat every year they had like peeled over the edges for S21 Ultra and then they mostly flattened it for s22
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and s23 and they could go the only phone that's really actually fully flat is the
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iPhone right now like they they just go straight 90 degrees on the corners I'd
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be into a flat phones the um do you remember the s or the note 20 the regular one that was flat right note 20
00:25:57
remember two versions and the note 20 was like everyone loved the form factor and everything except that the specs
00:26:03
were way worse the 20 was the plastic one right I think so it was the cheaper version of the two glastic yes I think
00:26:11
oh no maybe that wasn't totally flat the huge bezel the ultra had Curve screen
00:26:17
surprised I did that the ultra had curve curve for sure I just remember everyone
00:26:21
liking the size and the form factor of the note 20 but the specs were so much worse compared to the note and when you
00:26:27
buy a note you kind of want that but um I don't know I think totally flat the
00:26:30
other rumor though I do like about the s24 and s24 plus versions are supposively they're flattening the edges
00:26:38
kind of like the um iPhone 11 to iPhone 12 where we had rounded edges versus flat edges on the side of it the rails I
00:26:46
think that would be awesome yeah I honestly I love my zen phone the ultra wide camera has left some to be desired
00:26:56
and I want a case for it and just there's not a lot of case options s24 regular size there's going to be way
00:27:04
more accessories an extra triple camera I might go to the s24 I on that though I
00:27:10
hate Samsung we'll see what happens it's been a long time since I've used I every
00:27:15
time I daily a Samsung phone I do have to spend extra time making it usable software wise just for my own taste yeah
00:27:23
I think I use Nova Launcher on my Note 8 at least is that around I don't I know
00:27:28
weirdly enough though I apparently never took it out of the app drawer on my phone and it's kept moving and I just
00:27:34
recently took it off my zen phone cuz it's moved so many phones since then like I've never opened it but it's just
00:27:39
been sitting there and you can launch it from that icon and it'll jump into the
00:27:42
launcher yeah I never I never opened it again so I just recently got rid of it maybe I'll have to bring it back if I go
00:27:48
that's 24 rout but all I'm kind of excited low key yeah well we got some
00:27:53
car stuff to talk about too can I even call this a car or this just it's a it's totally a car it's a
00:28:01
car just made by a phone SL everything else you could also call it Vapor but let's call it car for now let's try it
00:28:07
okay so XI they actually have one though there's one that's well you can make one
00:28:13
everyone can make one Sony made a car yeah once yeah so okay xiaomi announced the su7 EV their first car it is fully
00:28:22
electric it has all kinds of inspiration from the Porsche tyan I mean if you see
00:28:27
photo of this thing yeah 75% of it looks like a Porsche tyan and there's some
00:28:32
some slight adaptations for things like headlights and and handles but it it looks pretty good that's the one car it
00:28:39
looks the most like which is a good looking car yeah can if you read that name though the su7 EV yeah it basically
00:28:46
has SUV in the title and I'm immediately thinking SUV it's not an SUV it's very
00:28:51
much a sedan it looks good it looks really good uh so yeah I think the highlight of it is the design I'm going
00:28:57
to read the specs but I'm going to careful I think the highlights the specs well that's what I was going to say is
00:29:03
I'm going to be careful to say that I don't believe that most of these specs
00:29:07
will actually happen so it is a highlight that they're trying this but I I'll read the specs let me just let me
00:29:14
know what you think okay up to 35,000 RPM Motor 668 horsepower uh up to 800 kilm of range so
00:29:26
that's about 500 500 miles of range but wait but also a long range version that will ship
00:29:36
later with 1,200 km of range 750 mil of range cool I wish okay I'll keep going
00:29:46
800 volt architecture so it can charge 137 mil in 5 minutes or you can add 37 mil and 15 minutes of charging not sure
00:29:55
what charger uh hyper OS so they have the software that matches the xiaomi smartphones and then all the design
00:30:02
stuff that I'm sure you're seeing in the video version of this podcast do we
00:30:06
think this car achieves a single one of these specs I think all of these or well
00:30:14
not all of them two of them are very closely connected and I don't think the
00:30:18
charging is as absurd if you can believe the range because 3177 M 15 minutes is a
00:30:25
percentage of the battery in Peak charging so if the battery is actually 750 mil that seems totally plausible but
00:30:34
that would still imply you need to charge cuz we don't have a do we have a kilowatt hour size of the battery that
00:30:40
they're promising I think they did have one I think it was like only like 13 it
00:30:44
was not even that big oh let me see if they okay so maybe I'm wrong there but
00:30:48
when I first see yes 15 minutes 3177 miles sounds crazy but to a battery that's so big if you can keep Peak
00:30:56
charging for longer because logically that checks out there this is only a 73.6 for the standard and 101 for the
00:31:05
long range so the same size as a Tesla Model 3 Model S yeah the 73 or the 100 73 is a Tesla Model 3 more or less 100
00:31:14
there are cars out mil range there are cars out there with 100 Kow hour battery packs Model S the model S and what's the
00:31:20
range on that 47 on a good day 350 I think they claim the long range to go about 400 yeah okay so this one's
00:31:30
claiming they're claiming 750 yeah insane 750 like I at least if they claimed like a reasonable range I
00:31:39
might think that this car might exist but because they went straight to 700 miles of range I now don't think this
00:31:45
car will ever exist that's I didn't realize the battery pack comparison of
00:31:48
it I thought they're just kind of going crazy is xiaomi's test track just 700
00:31:53
miles of downhill it's actually gaining battery the entire time it's just a wild claim
00:32:00
it's supposed to have a self-driving there was a video out there that showed
00:32:04
it parking in a parking structure where it just like Goes Around in Circles a bunch and then it like it almost hits a
00:32:10
car but then it backs up and the other car goes around it and then it it parks in the most like inconvenient parking
00:32:15
space possible that's the most believable thing about the car yeah the fact that it will go park itself in a
00:32:20
garage yeah you know they say it might be 2024 when this comes out we're we're
00:32:24
living in the year 2024 I don't I mean I have to take it somewhat seriously because it's xiaomi and they are really
00:32:31
announcing it and this isn't CES like this is an announcement of a car by itself yeah if it by the way if you see
00:32:38
a new car announced at CES I'm just going to tell you to confidently assume that that car is never coming out don't
00:32:44
don't assume that you will ever be able to buy that car if they had announced
00:32:48
this at CES we'd be like it's definitely not yeah that would be confirmation
00:32:51
that's all the confirmation I need that this car is never coming out because
00:32:54
it's its own event outside of CES I have to go all right well yeah I guess it's
00:32:58
sh me doing a thing yeah I was just looking at old photos and I saw what what was it called the Nissan
00:33:05
MX I or something from 2020 yeah yeah it's a cool looking car but a super concept when you go to CES and the seats
00:33:14
are like lighting up and there's no steering wheel enjoy the 10 seconds it's like 75% of the cars there
00:33:22
was a BMW once that we sat in and it was so protot might be that when marar tried
00:33:28
to scoot through the back seat they were like wait wait wait can you step out and
00:33:33
come to the other side of the door the middle of that se's cardboard yeah it
00:33:37
just it'll collapse collapse yeah so like if this was just a random EV startup that announced these I'd be like
00:33:42
it's definitely not coming out zero that would be 0% but xiaomi makes like everything which is why it's just above
00:33:48
zero but they actually make every yeah I mean yeah just above zero cuz if you if
00:33:53
you'd ask me what company on planet Earth has the best opportunity to show up out of nowhere and ship an EV with
00:33:59
750 m of range on a 100 KW battery xiaomi would be nowhere near the top of the list I would think okay who has the
00:34:06
best most advanced Battery tech and drivetrains and efficiency we're talking
00:34:10
about lucid Tesla the absolute the the top stuff in in EV world and xiaomi's
00:34:17
never shipped a car so I mean they're they're confidently putting models of
00:34:22
this car in xiaomi stores which is easy to do you can put a model car in a store
00:34:27
store that's super super simple but I just don't believe that it will actually
00:34:31
have those specs it is interesting though like David was saying that the fact that it's xiaoi and it's a big
00:34:36
company and announcing this has way more risk for a large company that already has other products they have to worry
00:34:42
about like if you just told me these anev coming out with these specs I'd be
00:34:46
like all right it's a pickup truck from a company I've never heard of that 300
00:34:50
Kow hour battery yeah and of and the first thing on the website is a reserve your pay as $300 to reserve you
00:34:58
buy someon next to it um but the fact that a jiai does change this and like you said a bit more hopeful I think I'm
00:35:06
a tad more hopeful than you I don't see it hitting those specs that's a w like
00:35:12
750 miles out of nowhere but I trust xiaoi doing it more than the like random startup getting billions of dollars from
00:35:22
investment funds like coming out of nowhere so if you had to assign a percent chance you think of this car
00:35:29
actually delivering with let's say 500 mil yeah yeah let's say the standard
00:35:34
version The 500 Mile version what percent chance do you give this exact card does it have to be 2024 or just
00:35:41
percent chance it comes out that it comes out in the next two years cuz this is China they they they
00:35:48
develop Battery tech very quickly they do they ship the craziest fastest charging phones ever yeah yeah exactly
00:35:54
so is that what's going to happen are we just going to get mind-blowingly fast
00:35:57
charging but you can't get uned States and they're not using they're
00:36:01
definitely not using nacs right I give this 15% chance 15 that's actually more than I thought say
00:36:08
that's the same percent um of Andrew's diet think about it Mak you think so 15%
00:36:16
that it hits 500 miles in the next two years yeah next two years 15% of my diet is cha played but I you've been studying
00:36:24
that board I appreciate it yeah I mean it's hard to say like they haven't given
00:36:29
a price or release date yet right they said 2024 I think this is regardless of price they could have said 60 Grand they
00:36:37
could have said 600 Grand I still don't think you can give a 73 Kow hour battery
00:36:41
5 range I don't think EV companies have straight away from being extremely expensive and still aren't hitting these
00:36:47
numbers so xiaomi I don't think price has to do with it they also haven't said
00:36:52
where they're going to sell it which is sad they probably won't sell it in the
00:36:55
US probably not yeah possibly e either way unless we're missing some really long range electric
00:37:03
vehicle I'm going to go 25% and say I'm being optimistic about it I'm goingon to
00:37:08
say 30 yeah Price is Right rules Price is Right rules I'm going to give you guys
00:37:13
some context um the most efficient Lucid just from me Googling it the entry level
00:37:18
Lucid air pure has a claimed 46 mile range on an 88 KW hour battery m and the EV everyone keeps telling me to check
00:37:30
out which has solar panels on it has three wheels and I also don't think will'll ever ship but they talk about it
00:37:37
a lot is the aptera EV oh they claim up to a th000 miles on a single charge that's that like like this yeah it's
00:37:46
that street I guess it could be Street there's all those other things that has
00:37:50
like solar power yeah that's good it's got some solar power okay but if you're
00:37:54
not a aware of what it is yet it has three wheels it's like uh it doesn't look like a car it looks
00:38:00
like it's supposed it looks like a science project that's supposed to get
00:38:03
a, miles it looks like a car that would be in that the future if image it looks like a car you would buy and then learn
00:38:09
that the Hummer EV and the Cyber truck are on the roads and be like I'm never
00:38:12
driving this on the road yeah never driving again it has 100 mph top speed the aptera has a claimed 400 mil of
00:38:20
range on the 40 KW hour battery and a th000 mile range how much does it weigh though that thing got to be 80% battery
00:38:29
weight yeah yeah it also has solar panels so like yeah I guess but solar panels even on the smallest version of
00:38:37
that are adding not a not all single digit miles every single company that's
00:38:41
put solar panels on has even in their most optimistic Market said like at best this is controlling your like air
00:38:48
conditioning for the day yeah the priest Prime that I tested when I left it parked outside for several several days
00:38:56
gained several miles of range nice so so there's that yeah yeah do with it what you may it's xiaomi
00:39:04
they announce crazy stuff I just want it looks really good it does we probably won't be able to buy in the US but I
00:39:09
would own this personally wow without even testing that it probably doesn't have Apple carplay or Android auto or
00:39:15
anything like that it definitely has Android auto xiaomi but not carplay okay probably not carplay yeah that's fine
00:39:21
that's bold you would own it I would own this for sure what's the okay one more
00:39:26
question maximum price you would pay to own it that I would pay yeah I wouldn't pay a
00:39:31
lot for a car but it's XI so like may I would say they're going to try to sell this for
00:39:39
like let's assume all the specs are true 55,000 MSRP that would be crazy those
00:39:44
that would be like best bang for your buck that' be unal if it hit these numbers I think that's what they're
00:39:48
going to try to sell it for the 400 mile base Lucid is about 80 grand yep so but
00:39:53
it's sh me it is Shi and they basically if you go on their website and look at
00:39:57
all their products they're literal direct ripoffs of other really expensive products oh they're not shy about that
00:40:03
their vacuum cleaner looks exactly like the Dyson vacuum cleaner like all of their stuff is pretty much exactly a
00:40:08
ripoff we shall see but it's way cheaper so we'll see we'll see yeah all right
00:40:14
speaking of EV news oh I saw this uh basically at the very end of last year Porsche and Aston Martin announced this
00:40:23
new carplay that apple had originally announced at WWDC 20 22 which is a long time ago it was a very weird very am I
00:40:31
in auge state I have so many thoughts portion of wwc where Apple was just like in the future all of the cars are going
00:40:39
to be completely controlled by your iPhone all of the screens are going to have all this information and it was all
00:40:45
a bunch of mockups and they didn't announced anything real and then we didn't hear anything for like an entire
00:40:50
year but moved on they had announced that by the end of 2023 they would be able to have
00:40:57
announcements about it actually coming true and literally at the very very end of 2023 they put out a little press
00:41:04
release with Porsche and Aston Martin talking about this next generation of carplay didn't they many also say that
00:41:12
80% of people wouldn't buy a new car unless it had carplay that's that might
00:41:16
have been another Apple quote Yeah I'm pretty sure it was a wild stat clearly
00:41:21
not true the model y does not have carplay and it's the most popular car in the world they like they only uh people
00:41:28
in cero just looking to buy a new car they went around on the Apple campus and they're like hey I need a I need a
00:41:35
little survey here I need a quote it's like when you're in high school and you
00:41:38
have to do a survey for a class so you ask like 14 people and you're like my
00:41:42
data in did it you just ask your friends yeah first of all I think yes carplay if
00:41:50
we just stick with carplay is an important feature for a lot of people in cars why because most inar software suck
00:41:57
like real bad horrible carplay not that great but better than car software so very very bad this mockup of it like
00:42:07
taking over your whole car would seem to make sense because again what car is going to have better software than what
00:42:12
Apple can make right everyone just wants their phone anyway so like why not just
00:42:16
give people their car just being their whole phone and apple doesn't make a car
00:42:18
yet so I guess this is the Apple car you know uh the Press announcement showed they said Porsche and ason Martin
00:42:25
Porsche didn't really give any model numbers Aston Martin did say that next year's
00:42:30
db12 would have this full carplay thing on the screens which if you look up photos of the interior of the Aston
00:42:38
Martin db12 the 2024 db12 there are physical buttons for lots of the same things that show up on the screen like
00:42:48
your your air conditioning and your media like your volume all of that there there are knobs and buttons on the car
00:42:53
already so they'll have a physical button and a digital button how how is that a good idea how is that a useful
00:43:00
like how is that a good use of space it's going to be very redundant yeah seems weird to me so I don't I want to
00:43:07
throw in there I'm Pro physical buttons me too all in a car not all but climate
00:43:13
control easily accessible physical buttons yes pretty much everything I think you could probably get a there's
00:43:20
not a lot of things almost every human agrees on but I think one of them is that physical buttons for things like
00:43:25
that are better than digital buttons in a car in a in a car for sure when you you should be keeping your eyes on the
00:43:32
road yes and you want to reach and have real haptic feedback about what like you're moving and adjusting physical
00:43:40
buttons are better so this carplay taking over your whole screen your whole dashboard maybe there's a secondary
00:43:49
screen in your car I don't think every car of the feature is going to have to
00:43:52
have all screen I think that's an aesthetic that got popular because Tesla got popular with EVs and part of making
00:44:00
an EV affordable is cost cutting around the expensive battery so Model S and model 3 they have incredible batteries
00:44:08
and drivetrains but then they've cost cut everywhere else take away the screen
00:44:12
take away the buttons take away everything it's super minimal and so because Teslas are so popular all these
00:44:18
other car manufacturers are going oh this is this is getting popular maybe we do that too and so you're seeing all
00:44:24
these super minimal Interiors come out but that's not actually what what's
00:44:27
popular about the car I think people are buying the EV for the EV reason and are
00:44:31
dealing with and are okay with the whole screen thing but I think we all still know that physical buttons are better
00:44:38
than digital buttons so this weird like head fake that we're doing towards all
00:44:43
carplay on your car but also in cars that have regular buttons is kind of weird because I think we're in a couple
00:44:49
years going to realize we we're just going to have regular cars with buttons
00:44:52
again so it's it's weird well you still need your car to work if you don't have
00:44:55
an iPhone right so it's like like I feel like that's why they're doing all the
00:44:58
physical buttons in conjunction because even though they're going to have the
00:45:02
digital button option with all the carplay stuff you still need to be able to control your car if either you don't
00:45:09
have an iPhone or if you're don't want to plug your iPhone in yeah I guess so
00:45:13
if it's still the nextg carplay this is still a projection from your phone like
00:45:16
this isn't built into the car like Android automotive but it's well no this
00:45:19
next generation carplay is supposed to have access to all of your car's features so you're supposed to be able
00:45:25
to like control the temperature show your speedometer and your range and your RPMs if it's a gas car yeah but you
00:45:31
still need your iPhone for that to work for the carplay to work yeah so if you don't have your iPhone if your iPhone is
00:45:36
dead it's still going to back up to whatever Aston Mar software is underneath it that's actually a good
00:45:42
point I had not thought about if that's the case cuz I'm not sure I I assume it
00:45:46
needs your iPhone but it could be not sure yeah needs your iPhone will this next gen carplay be built into the
00:45:54
carlik Android automotive or will it still be like carplay and God that's actually an interesting question if you
00:46:00
have Android automotive but an iPhone can you still connect and do basic like you can connect your iPhone to the do
00:46:08
like music and stuff like that right yeah yeah exactly so I guess it if it's
00:46:11
built in it's the best case scenario because then even if you don't have an
00:46:14
iPhone you can at least do the minimal things like contacts and whatever and then just it's an apple UI for the rest
00:46:19
of your car your phone will be like your car will be like another device in your
00:46:22
Apple account basically yeah when I first thought about like adjusting CL and everything like that and carplay I
00:46:28
was like well I'll just use my knobs for that and carplay for everything else but
00:46:32
like a lot of these pictures that they're showing of like renders of it are showing climate controls and
00:46:36
everything like that so they do want that in there and it is both the way I see it is like I'm just going to use my
00:46:42
knobs for the stuff I want to use and then hopefully just customize the screen enough to I'm never going to touch my
00:46:48
heated seat button on the screen never going to touch my climate control on the screen it's going to have my maps it's
00:46:53
going to have my music and you know this skin on my I would I would do exactly what you're doing but
00:47:01
then yeah it it comes down to again the the question that we've asked many times
00:47:06
on this podcast before what do you think will happen first a car company deciding to spend the money on
00:47:13
software and become a good software company as well so that they don't have to rely on Apple putting all their stuff
00:47:20
on the car screen or a tech company becoming a good car company so something like Tesla or xiaomi or apple or
00:47:30
whatever who's already really good at software getting really good at the Car
00:47:35
Part you know panel gaps build quality materials we talk about all that all the time which do you think will happen
00:47:40
first yeah you know so theoretically becoming a car company should be much harder than uh hiring a
00:47:48
good software team uh but I think we kind of talked about this a little bit yesterday like for some reason these
00:47:55
traditional auto manufacturers Just like don't want to H hire a software division
00:47:59
to maintain good software in their cars really good they have software divisions
00:48:05
but they're not a focus that's like pushing boundaries right and I think
00:48:09
they don't want to do that because people currently aren't buying cars for
00:48:13
the software people are currently like if you're buying an expensive car like a
00:48:16
Porsche they're buying it because it's a Porsche or if they're buying a Honda
00:48:18
Civic they're buying it because it's a Honda Civic but I don't think right now
00:48:22
software is like a major reason that people buy cars and so that's why they're so likely to just be like oh
00:48:29
Android auto or uh carplay just like off the shelf put it in we don't even have
00:48:34
to hire a software team yeah but slowly these these startups like rivan are coming and like devoting these really
00:48:43
big software teams to the interior software of the car and that is a major selling point for people that are the
00:48:49
early adopters of EVS but as EVS become normal cars by 2030 when it's illegal to
00:48:55
buy an ice car in the United States M like what is that going to look like yeah so people up until let's say 2020
00:49:04
didn't really think too hard about the software built into the car it's just
00:49:07
whatever I'll get car play and that'll be fine yeah but people buying new cars
00:49:11
in 2024 and Beyond are going to start to care about the software because a lot of
00:49:16
them will be EVs and the software will matter and a lot of them are younger people who care about the software let's
00:49:21
be honest so it almost feels like Tesla's success kind of tricked a lot of the car industry into some of the wrong
00:49:28
focuses weird yeah I do think a fully compatible like Android auto or carplay car in an ideal world is the best option
00:49:41
because those two software manufacturers are so much better than even the software software car companies are
00:49:49
currently and I think they have such a head start I don't see Tesla or rivan
00:49:53
ever catching up to them in the software function Plus if we always talk about Tesla and the
00:49:59
ecosystem of charging and being inside your Tesla all the time what's a better
00:50:03
ecosystem than your car being connected to your actual ecosystem of your phone and your like all your smart stuff yeah
00:50:12
it almost feels like the only possible way to get that ecosystem integration is for it to be the carplay thing like if
00:50:18
you use like if I use Tesla as an example their app on the phone is phenomenal it's the best I've ever used
00:50:24
for any car you can do you can send instructions to the car you can preheat the car you can have schedules for
00:50:30
charging there's all sorts of things that plug and and by the way and this is
00:50:35
separate from the car like if you have a Tesla solar Roof System there's all the
00:50:38
software that talks to the car where I literally have it where if my car is plugged in while it's sunny outside it
00:50:45
will only use the excess energy from the solar that the house isn't using to
00:50:50
charge the car insane I couldn't even dream of doing that with I don't think
00:50:53
the Tian has anywhere near that functionality so the integration in Tesla's ecosystem is great but if you
00:51:00
still want the texts from your phone or the apps on your phone you kind of need carplay I think there's a specific
00:51:09
phrase you used in there that's so important and really important for a lot of people saying like rivan and Tesla
00:51:14
already have really good software which is it is the best I've used in any car
00:51:18
MH any the best car software right now from Tesla and rivan or whoever is like still worse than an iPad SE level
00:51:28
and UI and software from bigan that's my favorite part about watching some car
00:51:33
reviews someone go oh yeah the the incar infotainment is really good and they'll
00:51:36
swipe across and it'll be like this horrible janky animation I'm like if I
00:51:40
reviewed an iPad and did that you'd be like what is wrong with this thing this
00:51:44
is horrible I just like anytime you think car software is really good imagine that yeah being on an iPad or in
00:51:49
a phone review that we were doing right now and people would be like you thought
00:51:52
that was a good are you serious you can't be kidding interesting angle of this is that the with the new carplay is
00:51:59
that depending on the manufacturer they're going to skin carplay to be based around the manufacturer car cool I
00:52:06
want to customize I think it's well I think it's important I think it's
00:52:09
important for especially for the car manufacturers right they don't really want you to get into a Porsche and then
00:52:14
everything around you is Apple UI right colorful like everyone else's yeah it
00:52:19
makes a lot more sense for you to get into the Porsche and everything is sort of Porsche themed but still has all your
00:52:24
phone functionality and as a car manua fact sure like I think a big reason that there's sort of this tension where they
00:52:29
don't want to give all the power to Apple is that they don't want to just be
00:52:33
like oh yeah half of your experience is dictated by not us so the fact that they
00:52:38
themselves can skin it and make it feel like it's a first it it's going to feel
00:52:42
more first party even though it's a third party thing yeah that's why I think this this carplay thing H it has
00:52:50
to be a stop gap between the car companies eventually going all right we got to get good at software yeah and
00:52:56
we're not good at it now so you know what if we can work with apple and they
00:53:00
can deliver a great experience we can keep selling cars to these new people who care about this software experience
00:53:05
yeah but we're eventually we can't just give it up yeah so I think this is a
00:53:10
stop Gap once EVS get a lot more popular and prevalent and there's cheaper ones
00:53:15
like the Tesla Model 2 or like a rivan r R2 is that what it's called R2 the platform yeah yeah okay then I think
00:53:23
that it's going to be a much more major thing that traditional makers like Honda
00:53:27
or Toyota actually have to consider because people that are going to be buying the most cars are going to be
00:53:32
like Millennials and gen Z yeah so that's the reason why I think Google and apple will prevail because they're going
00:53:41
to see more companies going towards their own software and they're going to be like hold on a minute we want to be
00:53:46
in these cars this is this is our opportunity to make more money or our opportunity we possibly losing money
00:53:53
because now people aren't using carplay or Android auto they want data as much
00:53:58
as possible if you start taking away driving data from them you start running into some issues I wouldn't doubt if
00:54:05
they're going to start I mean like they're going to want to make deals with
00:54:09
car companies and be the thing inside of cars as much as they can it's an easy
00:54:13
selling point hey why pay a software team just pay us or we'll pay you to be
00:54:18
inside this car well here's the question for you guys would you prefer a really
00:54:23
good like rivan or Tesla UI that's just really good or would you prefer carplay
00:54:28
or Android auto that's I think that I think there's an obvious answer there I
00:54:32
think if both of them are at Absolute Peak you want the one that's also connected to all the other Tech that you
00:54:37
use I actually don't I I like my car software being like separate from my phone I think
00:54:45
that's like a small wait same no I no I think that's like a small personal thing
00:54:50
where it's like I think in Peak if they were absolutely perfect on both sides you
00:54:56
would want it connected to everything else I think that if it was skinned to feel native and but it was actually car
00:55:03
Player Android auto then I would be okay with it yeah but I prefer like the Tesla
00:55:08
UI or the rivian UI to carplay and Android auto but I I see you're saying about that's what I'm saying like if it
00:55:14
was perfect in both scenarios you would want it I would want the one that's connect to we all we all want something
00:55:21
in our ecosystem it's because it's the what you're the most familiar with too
00:55:23
it's already plugged into everything yeah summ summary of everything for me is the the legitimate older car
00:55:31
companies have a head start in the making cars thing and they're trying to figure out how to solve for all the
00:55:39
downsides that they have with software and this feels like a patch for now mhm the software companies have a huge Head
00:55:47
Start when it comes to the software Tesla rivan maybe even xiaomi who knows but they are trying to figure out all of
00:55:55
the shortcomings that they have with the whole making cars thing batteries range
00:56:00
build quality panel gaps whatever tono covers tunel CS so they're they're both
00:56:07
working on their shortcomings and the patch for now seems like good car good software combined please buy our car
00:56:18
that's my summary okay we have to take a quick break's been on the trivia button for
00:56:24
like half an hour cuz our notes were like three sentences and then that was 30 minutes yeah hit the button there it
00:56:31
is all right all right friends I don't know if you're ready for this one so this is a
00:56:38
spe special interest uh topic so ruinscape is a browser based Fantasy game no no no hear me out originally
00:56:46
released in 2001 by the company jagex with over 200 million registered accounts it's the world's most popular
00:56:53
free-to-play MMO RPG still to be determined oh registered accounts yeah RuneScape is known for many things
00:57:01
but especially they're staggeringly large music library in 2017 they were awarded with the guus world record for
00:57:09
most original pieces of music in a video game H as of November 27th of 2023 how many total songs are there in ruinscape
00:57:18
it's a multiple choice answer don't be scared okay is that all of RuneScape o
00:57:23
like old school end runes AP 3 cuz are there different songs I think it's just
00:57:29
like in the newest version so RuneScape 3 yeah is RuneScape 3 considered the newest version anymore or is old school
00:57:36
considered the new help I've never played aape you don't need to play to
00:57:40
know I didn't even know this so I still don't Mariah famously has a RuneScape
00:57:45
desk mat at her desk so not anymore not anymore oh yeah you swapped that yeah you're wearing a RuneScape shirt though
00:57:51
yes is my Christmas that's a RuneScape oh actually it's it's based on one of
00:57:54
the songs it is oh all right option a uh 1,589 songs I could see that option b 1,362 songs this is not a large
00:58:08
variation too many option C 1,27 songs or D 856 songs those are all way too many they're way too those numbers are
00:58:17
way too close to each other I like it's I was thinking it would be like 64 songs
00:58:22
they are good songs a th000 songs yeah 10,000 yeah that's what I would do yeah
00:58:30
just saying I don't know if it helps at all but you can get something in the
00:58:33
game called The Music Cape correct or yeah so if you unlock all of the songs you get a piece
00:58:41
of equipment based on unlocking all of the songs unlock the songs RuneScape is also
00:58:48
famously known as the grest game possible yeah so okay that shouldn't don't be scared we'll think let's take
00:58:56
it a break we'll think about it we'll be back I just want to hope somebody's
00:58:59
listening right now like you idiots of course it's 1,130 famously welcome back uh this is a
00:59:10
section that I think maybe we should have done uh at the end of last year but I wanted to fit in here because it's a
00:59:15
little fun section we always get a very positive audience reaction we do when we
00:59:19
do something like this never too late yeah I wanted to go over our individual favorite pieces of tech from 2023
00:59:25
something we started using in 2023 that we think like kind of changed our workflow or that we just really
00:59:31
positively liked um it's always a little fun I I like recommendations sections uh
00:59:36
Gadget lab from wired actually did a full recommendation episode for the last week of 2023 uh so I thought it would be
00:59:42
fun to have a little recommendation section so I think we're going to do three products each and we're going to
00:59:47
go to a little round tables we're going to start off with Marquez and uh it doesn't have to be something that
00:59:52
released in 2023 just something you started using that you really like H I love how in this for audio
01:00:00
listeners randomly after an adbreak people hosts of the show will just be wearing smart glasses oh I didn't even
01:00:08
realize marus doesn't even wear normal sunglasses except for these indoors all
01:00:12
the time yeah uh spoiler sorry I'm picking I'm picking the ray bands meta
01:00:19
smart glasses as my first pick these things I mean I don't know I don't like
01:00:23
you said I don't wear sunglasses that much but they surprise me at how how like just overall as a package they
01:00:29
managed to fit a lot of fun smart features in things that look like just regular sunglasses and they actually get
01:00:36
David's wearing the clear ones so you could kind of just wear them and then are those a transitions right too or no
01:00:43
uh yeah I think they are trans they turn into sunglasses too they're not full
01:00:46
sunglasses they're not like nearly like yours but they tint you know yeah personally I think that wearing the
01:00:51
sunglasses ones is probably a better option because if you wear clear glasses when you don't normally wear clear
01:00:56
glasses then obvious like what are you doing but if I'm walking through the city like the POV videos that you can
01:01:02
get of just like walking around or whatever activity you're doing are actually pretty solid from these so just
01:01:08
for that feature alone I thought these were really cool um I've been wanting to
01:01:11
do more POV driving videos for autofocus and struggling to find safe ways to do that so this is a this has been an
01:01:19
actual workflow game changer for that too so yeah I I'm liking these the video
01:01:24
quality is really good the sound quality is surprisingly good it kind of shoots sound into your ears directional audio
01:01:30
Yeah and then they have they're like one of the first multimodal AI products as
01:01:34
well exactly I've been I've been testing the hey meta look and tell me what you
01:01:39
see it's going to start reading to me now we did this a couple weeks ago yeah
01:01:43
do you want me to oh it didn't do it it didn't do it that time that's fine
01:01:49
cool we're in the early stages all right this is my favorite piece watch it not worry watch it not
01:01:55
all right Andrew all right I have for show and tell today oh oh if you couldn't guess cuz I won't stop talking
01:02:03
about keyboards the last couple months this bro the Omni type power light wow which is a keyboard from a company named
01:02:12
omn type they're famous for a very old or an older very expensive very low inventory keyboard called the bower 2 um
01:02:22
but they made a light version which is polycarbonate it's 100 bucks 120 bucks
01:02:28
and it's like in stock inventory which is really cool and really the newer thing in the keyboard Community that's
01:02:33
happening right now um and they were nice enough to send me one and when I was on paternity leave I built them and
01:02:41
now I've built like 10 keyboards and I've been having so much fun with it um
01:02:46
this one I brought specifically is I think sounds and feels so good I'm like obsessed with it it is um
01:02:56
yeah it's a polycarbonate board it's hot swap I have switches from kinetic Labs
01:03:01
they're called the kinetic lab Moon switches which are actually hand lub from the factory so they sound really
01:03:06
nice without any effort um and a nice Game Boy theme key cap set called gmk DMG going to do a little typing test
01:03:15
yeah oh I could listen to that all day inject that in my brain I have head first into the keyboard hobby to the
01:03:28
point where before I left for paternity leave I had built my first keyboard to now I am back from it and I have like 20
01:03:34
of them and a keyboard YouTube channel so this is where we've G I have a question so I I love all these these
01:03:40
like Niche like super deep dive into hobbies that we do and I always I I I've
01:03:45
started getting to keyboards more and so I've come to appreciate much more the
01:03:50
different sounds and feels that you get from a keyboard why does the lightness of it matter the light
01:03:57
this is just light because polycarb cheaper CNC aluminum so the reason I'm actually on a video right now on this
01:04:04
for the studio Channel but the reason you can just stamp and mold polycarbonate whereas before the b 2
01:04:12
that they were making he said it took over yeah cuz it's aluminum but it took
01:04:17
more than a year to make 500 of them and 8,000 people signed up for the raffle so
01:04:23
that's just not an option for smaller companies or even some bigger companies
01:04:26
to make stuff like that um places like keyron do do aluminum bodies and they're
01:04:31
great at in stock stuff and there's way more companies doing in stock things
01:04:35
right now which is really cool um all this I'm working on in the video that I'm doing right now but polycarbonate is
01:04:40
nice I like the lightness of this just for like bringing it to work was nice I think I do still like my heavy keyboard
01:04:48
playing games cuz it like sits in its spot do you bring this back and forth every day not every day um I'll probably
01:04:53
leave this one at work I built a bunch of home I'll probably leave them at work
01:04:56
to just use as props cuz I obviously don't need 20 keyboards um but yeah I've
01:05:01
just been building a lot of different ones trying different sounds and feels and stuff and I've been taking videos of
01:05:06
all of them and posting typing test plug your Channel I want you guys what do you
01:05:11
think of this channel name it's called l m n o key I love it that's nice right
01:05:18
that's a cool channel name it's just me and my friend typing pretty much very
01:05:22
lowkey but yeah this one Omni type B light big fan I liked the keyboard uog I made a keyboard uog it's an hour of
01:05:30
typing with like fireplace crackling did you type for an hour or did you Loop it did you type for an
01:05:38
hour I I typed for 10 minutes and then looped it nice I debated typing Christmas songs during it but that was
01:05:44
too much work yeah that reminds I used to bring my H uh when I worked at Intel I brought my happy hacking keyboard to
01:05:49
work every day he had a a carrying case I I had a carrying case for it uh there was a period of time as well that I
01:05:54
brought my ergod do to work and I used to eat ramen at my desk while typing Nur dox is like a split hand keyboard where
01:06:02
you do this and then you can put something in the center like keyboards look really
01:06:06
cool someone clip that where I just went like this yeah I had I had a wood case and Elvin Elvin keycaps from Lord of the
01:06:13
Rings it was pretty amazing yeah and a runes skate mouse pad yeah all right um my I think favorite piece of tech from
01:06:22
this year is software it's very we've talked about this before for it's Arc
01:06:26
browser uh they're a cool startup you have to pull it out of your computer to
01:06:29
show it to us yeah yeah I've got a sticker on my laptop oh okay they're they're a very fun startup they're uh I
01:06:35
don't really know how they're going to make money uh and they don't really
01:06:38
either they have some random ideas but for now they're running on some Runway
01:06:43
um but yeah I don't it's it's hard to get me to switch a piece of software or
01:06:49
technology that I use all the time and I I generally will try things for like a day and then I'll be like um no I like
01:06:57
going back to my other thing um I think I described Arc very badly the last time
01:07:01
we talked about it I was like it kind of gets rid of your tabs and then it can kind of do this stuff and uh it cleans
01:07:07
your room for you yeah it kind of yeah I I famously am really really terrible at
01:07:12
tab management so at a certain amount of time uh at like 12 hours later it will clear all your tabs and you can have
01:07:19
different spaces so I have like a work space a personal space um and then like a website management space face just all
01:07:26
these different things it's got boosts now that came out this year which is like you can basically modify the code
01:07:32
for a website to look however you want you can turn it pink you can get rid of certain things they had this funny
01:07:37
little uh ad that came out when Twitter when Twitter blue came out that like removed the Twitter blue tab and
01:07:45
removed all these things just to like clean up I don't know it's just a it's a
01:07:49
very fun uh startup with a very fun browser and most browsers are so stagnant they're just it's Apple's
01:07:57
browser Microsoft's browser or Google's browser so it's like they're not playing
01:08:01
with fun quirky interesting features yeah they're quirky I think that's would
01:08:04
you say Firefox is no no no I'm just sad you didn't say it um no I would say
01:08:09
though it is stagnant but to David's like Point here is it's really hard to
01:08:15
change things that you use for a very long time and a browser like I'm using
01:08:18
Firefox because I started years ago and I don't know why I use it over chrome
01:08:24
I'm just used to seeing it that anyways and I just haven't made the change so
01:08:28
like that's a big change so you it's got to be a fairly solid product if you've
01:08:32
made that change I was going to say the same thing my there's a small list of
01:08:35
software that if I change it which I do once in a while it's a really big deal
01:08:40
to me which is my to-do list app my email app my calendar app yeah my video editing app yeah and my browser right
01:08:49
they're like I'll have one for years at a time and if I find one I might try it
01:08:53
for a day and then come back to the one I like and find another one try for a day come back to the one I like but if I
01:08:58
change from Premier to final cut my life has changed I change from Safari to Ark
01:09:03
like which I did huge change so I I I like it a lot also Arc is doing something kind of crazy and
01:09:09
unprecedented where they're uh unprecedented like presidented unprecedented they're basically they're
01:09:16
doing something called uh Swift on Windows which effectively they didn't want to write a whole code base right
01:09:22
now it's only Mac OS and so they wrote it for Swift because Swift is like a much newer cleaner thing and they didn't
01:09:28
want to use um some of these like platform switcher applications so they're making this thing called Swift
01:09:36
on Windows where basically they can just write it for Swift and then theoretically can make it run on Windows
01:09:42
they can make it run on Android um and they have an iPhone app right now but they're going to completely revamp it
01:09:49
because it's not really a browser app it's sort of just like a you can only
01:09:52
have one tab open at a time and you can pin things to your to your browser on your laptop but it's a very big
01:09:58
undertaking I think because they made a browser and they don't see it really
01:10:02
obvious path to monetization they're trying to figure out how they could monetize this um but they're they're
01:10:08
quirky and fun and that's just kind of the reason that I kind of have stuck with them from uh since the beginning of
01:10:13
the year nice but we'll see if they're around they make nice hats too just
01:10:17
saying they do make nice hats oh that's how they can make money they dig their
01:10:19
hat yeah on the hats yeah merch baby they have a pretty rabid uh fan base that is like always a good thing loyalty
01:10:26
is nice very loyal fan base and surprisingly they uh like every week they update the app on Thursday of every
01:10:32
week and add a fe pretty much add a feature every week which is cool they now have on their YouTube channel they
01:10:37
put out like feature update videos every week and those videos get close to 100,000 views every week now that's
01:10:43
where you make YouTube creators now baby they're YouTubers now um so yeah it was
01:10:50
it was fun using that this year yeah nice all right prod number two Marquez my next one is extremely expensive so
01:10:58
hopefully you guys have less expensive things put the affiliate code in there yeah I love the rivan r1s that is
01:11:06
expensive it's a it's my it's the most well-rounded most I I had almost only good things to say about
01:11:16
this EV which is very rare for me and I mean we test all kinds of vehicles cars SUVs pickup trucks all sorts of stuff
01:11:22
like that I had like nothing negative to say about the rivian r1s and my first exposure to it was I think in 2022 but
01:11:29
it started shipping in 2023 and I reviewed it in 2023 and um yeah there's a lot of things
01:11:36
that I like about it so I'm there's also an Easter egg in the video that I made
01:11:42
about it which you guys will probably understand sometime later in 2024 but uh yeah wait what that's really
01:11:50
I don't even know what you're talking about or I don't think I know what
01:11:53
you're talking about so yeah that I mean it's expensive it's it's I'm starting to
01:11:57
see a lot more of them on the road which I think is a good sign for rivan as a company iwhere it's selling way better
01:12:02
than the truck yeah so that's cool but yeah I just I'm shouting it out because
01:12:07
I think it's amazing I think r2s and r2t will be much more interesting for the
01:12:10
masses because they're trying to bring most of the capabilities that most people need on the street down in price
01:12:15
to an attainable level and I think they're going to be great what if I want a sedan
01:12:21
can rivan make a sedan a sedan so rivan has this adventure type of theme Adventure sedan I think an adventure be
01:12:29
interesting like a cross track yeah I think that's a that's a popular vehicle
01:12:33
category so the pickup truck technically the most popular vehicle in America is a
01:12:38
pickup truck and they started with a competitor to it and I think the the big three row sedan is another very popular
01:12:43
category that maybe an adventure spin sorry three three SUV but I think this the big crossover or sedan big sedan
01:12:51
could be another thing for them to aim for because because the super saltera was so bad if if they made like a sutera
01:12:59
competitor that was actually good I would be so happy iy that in a heartbeat I want the R2 so bad slightly bigger
01:13:07
similar size to my Forester if that's the case yeah would be very veryy again
01:13:12
I think I I put my demands out there that might be two row what because r1s is a small three row maybe r2s is two
01:13:20
yeah R r2s I would assume is going to be a two row but still decent trunk space if it's still got thexy look of rivan
01:13:29
and it still like some of the like trunk a lot of times I feel like when you start going to the smaller SUV they
01:13:35
start getting rid of the front trunk I still want I think is uniquely building EV from the ground up or some of the
01:13:40
ones that get rid of the front trunk are just not they're just L they're not
01:13:43
building an EV from the ground up in that way I have a real I feel like I'm going to reserve the
01:13:48
R2 as long as you're not planning on having three more kids then you can they
01:13:52
find their own car go in the front truck then you're getting that white Chevy minivan baby
01:13:59
it's on on Odyssey yeah r1s that's my shout out that's awesome um I'm going to shout out
01:14:05
something so I don't use it but we have it in the office and I think it's really
01:14:09
really cool and unless you see it so I'll try and describe it it sounds kind
01:14:14
of lame but I think it's awesome it's the Corsair platform 6 sit desk that we
01:14:19
got recently I like I thought about I thought a lot about getting one yeah I really it so they they sent us one and
01:14:26
we put it in our gaming room and it's like a Corsair is obviously a gaming company this desk doesn't scream gamer
01:14:34
as hard though it's like a nice wooden platform it has kind of like its own adjustable pegboard backing so you can
01:14:41
add all these different customized like shelves and hooks and like there's side
01:14:46
plates that come out to extend the desk left and right there's pegboards that
01:14:49
can go on the side it's Auto it's sit stand it just has like all these really
01:14:54
awesome customizing things on it without looking without like looking like a real
01:14:59
desk because here's the thing I could see having this in a garage and using it
01:15:02
as like a workshop desk it probably Workshop desk probably should be a little sturdier or like thicker just if
01:15:11
you're like using a saw and stuff and getting side of it I like soldering and
01:15:15
that kind of stuff yeah yeah fair I mean this is this is it's just a really nice
01:15:19
looking desk that has all the customiz customization that you would like ever want like we have really nice speakers
01:15:25
up on the side of it me right now my studio monitors are on the desk and they they've been on my desk for years but
01:15:31
the the thought of being able to get them up off the desk at your ear level but then have you reclaim the desk space
01:15:36
underneath it that that's and still has all sorts of great things for like cable
01:15:40
management and stuff like that and places for arms like essentially you can create this with like almost nothing
01:15:46
sitting on the desk except for what you want and have your monitor and computer set up in all different places and I
01:15:51
don't it's just a really sick desk I don't even know how much it is it's
01:15:55
probably pretty expensive but it's on sale it's on sale baby how much uh it's
01:16:01
only $30 off but it is oh no uh it's $848 as of right now that's not that bad
01:16:08
for a desk for a motorized sit stand desk there are obviously better or cheaper options out there but I don't
01:16:15
think that's terrible yeah I spent a lot on my desk yeah I think it's really sick I
01:16:21
think I don't know if we've done have we done an a-roll set in in gaming room
01:16:25
since we changed that no I will Al did one Alex might have Sho for a video that's not out yet but I think it looks
01:16:31
great and it's going to be a really good yeah just for our set purposes being
01:16:35
able to customize it it's really the pegboard is really awesome I like that a
01:16:39
lot good job corer all right my second one uh is I promise not sponsored okay uh but the eight Sleep mattress topper
01:16:49
pad interesting go on okay this thing is so sick I love mine so much we got yeah
01:16:55
we got it originally for a sponsorship yep um and well basically they they reached out they wanted to sponsor us I
01:17:01
said I will have to try it first and if I like it then we'll do a sponsor and
01:17:05
then I loved it and did the sponsor yeah right so they have a full mattress option and then they just have a
01:17:10
mattress topper I got the topper because I already have a mattress that I really
01:17:14
like um but effectively it's this high-tech Sleep mattress topper that can cool you and heat you at different times
01:17:23
of the night it uses like intelligent machine learning or whatever to like change the temperature over the course
01:17:29
of the night so that you sleep better it has all these trackers to like tell you
01:17:33
how you slept and like say when you should go to bed the app is weirdly welld designed it is pretty good yeah
01:17:40
yeah like it's it's a very high quality product with a very high quality app and
01:17:45
honestly it has made me sleep significantly better since I've had it yeah um it's crazy too because at the at
01:17:53
every morning it gives you this sleep score to tell you how you slept and my sleep score always correlates with how
01:17:59
good I feel which is crazy like if it's it's like oh you slept terribly you got
01:18:02
a 63 I'm like yeah I know I feel like crap but if I'm like if I wake up and
01:18:06
I'm like wow I feel incredible it's always like 98 um and it'll change the
01:18:12
temperature over the course like as it gets closer to you waking up to help you wake up more naturally and add a point
01:18:18
in your like circadian rhythm where it's you feel better waking up I mean just
01:18:22
waking up to it being like a little warmer is is cooler and it can also vibrate to wake
01:18:32
you up which is kind of weird I don't use that feature it's pretty low they
01:18:35
just updated it did they okay I haven't tried it again since then I have one
01:18:39
major gripe with it which I is very small and I don't know how they would change it so if you want to like go take
01:18:47
a nap in your bed in the middle of the day and it's cold in your room because
01:18:52
there's water flowing through it without it changing the tempure like the bed is
01:18:56
cold when you get into it which is like so small and I'm more of a couch Napper
01:19:01
but like so you have to feat it up ahead of time well because it it starts heating up based on like when you said
01:19:06
as a bedtime right well no no but like if you're if you would prefer to be a
01:19:10
little warmer oh then you can go on the app and yeah but if you're just like oh
01:19:14
man I'm pretty exhausted at 2 o' I'm going to go take a nap in bed it's just
01:19:18
like cold because it's just water that's sitting in a cold room so very minor
01:19:23
grape yes still absolutely love it two things one it's hilarious that my bed
01:19:27
got a software update but two two is I think I got home from like an overnight thing once and so I like got in bed to
01:19:34
go to sleep at 6:00 a.m. or something and it it just turned on it just figured it out realized that I was and I still
01:19:41
got a horrible sleep score but like it realized that I was getting into bed at a crazy time and I was like all right CU
01:19:46
it's got the sensors the heart rate monitor everything is built into the mattress topper it's it knows a weird
01:19:51
amount about you it's kind of maybe a little too much it is also on sale wow what not a
01:19:59
sponsor it is a very expensive product it's $2500 for the mattress topper which
01:20:04
I know is a ton um and some of those features are behind a pay behind subscription you don't need the
01:20:11
subscription you really don't need it no I think some of the way I think they'll
01:20:15
like it changing cuz like you can set what points of temperature you want over it's like when you go to bed when you
01:20:23
hit light sleep when you hit deep sleep when you wake up but I think the automatic changing of that based on your
01:20:28
movement and stuff is behind the pay water yeah it's like autopilot well yeah I really like it I
01:20:35
have slept way better in the last six months since you have a water cooled bed have you gotten to the point where it's
01:20:42
harder to sleep in other beds um it that's an interesting question cuz I wasn't sure if I was actually sleeping
01:20:50
better in the aid sleep I thought wow I do I feel like I am going to sleep faster and then I tried to sleep in a
01:20:55
hotel bed and I was like I'm cooking okay Hotel Beds suck man I disagree with
01:21:00
both of you I've really enjoyed I think Hotel Beds are usually pretty good and
01:21:04
at least for me and I I've started feeling like wow these are too hot now interesting I see the reason I still
01:21:10
sleep okay in a hotel bed is cuz I'm not paying the electricity bill of what I
01:21:14
set the H to when I go into a hotel that's very D of you and exactly so I'm
01:21:20
cranking that to whatever preferred temperature want it's still 64 degre and
01:21:23
you have to like get out of bed when it's cold yeah it's tough I like the
01:21:27
feature where uh it had hit zero cooling or heating like an hour before I wake up
01:21:32
but as I'm waking up it gets colder and it sort of nudges me out of bed by getting colder and that works really
01:21:39
well see that's probably why my sleep score sucks cuz I make it get warmer and
01:21:42
then I'm like I don't want to leave I've never once wanted my bed to be warm so
01:21:46
I've never I don't have it get warm ever I'm a cozy boy I guess there you go yeah
01:21:52
anyway all right cool product last round let's do a speed okay last last item for me um I recently
01:21:58
started using this set of inar monitors by 64 audio I don't know how to pronounce the name but I'm going to try
01:22:04
which might be a mistake I think it's called the vour but they IMs I back in
01:22:09
high school I have this memory of every time during Like Home Room and study hall I I just had my zoom HD and my inar
01:22:16
monitors and I would just Zen out and not talk to anyone and just listen to music for hours and that was that memory
01:22:26
was like a core memory that was unlocked when I just went back to starting to use
01:22:29
in- your monitors again because you start hearing things in the music that you didn't realize were there because
01:22:34
you've only heard them on headphones or you've only heard them on speakers I've
01:22:38
been listening to these I've been editing with these a little bit they're
01:22:41
very versatile very expensive also uh but I'm giving them a shout out because
01:22:46
I don't have anything bad to say about them yet so I made the mistake of opening them and trying them and then
01:22:51
handing them to you and not trying them for longer cuz now that haven't left
01:22:54
your desk since I gave they going to be there for a while yeah they're actually
01:22:58
in his ears right now it's it's funny what you unlock when you find a new
01:23:03
better listening experience I uh I have this turntable that I've had for a long
01:23:07
time and I I have like 500 records but they're all on my mom's house cuz I was
01:23:11
that weird kid in high school who was like super into records uh but I finally like got a couple new records and put
01:23:17
them on my turntable at home and I'm like damn this sounds so good yeah it sounds way better so I am ex I want to I
01:23:25
want to try your I am I'm editing I'm like hearing things I've never heard
01:23:29
from the microphone before like there are there are cars outside the parking lot that I see the levels on the mix pre
01:23:35
or at zero so I'm like I think we can keep talking like I don't hear I don't
01:23:37
see it on the levels and then I hear in the IMs I'm like this is so much so I
01:23:42
hear everything I hear my I hear the hair is growing out of my face crazy anyway okay what's your pick um this is
01:23:49
definitely something that came out in 2022 and the thing I'm looking forward
01:23:52
to got delayed till 2024 so using it as a 2023 thing is maybe not the best but um the Pulsar X2 wireless gaming mouse
01:24:01
I've used before PSAR Pulsar p u LS a r um it's just a mouse that I loved it was
01:24:08
fantastic I was using the random Frank P version but they do all these really good collabs and designs and they're
01:24:14
coming out with a Demon Slayer collab soon which is an anime I started watching and I really like so far so I
01:24:19
can't wait till that comes out it's gonna be sick but yeah that's my my
01:24:23
quick hit nice um mine is a little boring but I really liked the pixel fold this year I know it
01:24:29
had a lot of problems uh like the bezels are pretty big on the inside and the inter screen not very good they come I
01:24:36
don't care about tensor whatever whatever um but I just really liked the form factor because I was really hoping
01:24:41
like the Oppo Find n and the find N2 never got a US launch and that's like a
01:24:47
shorter more pocketbook style foldable phone and so if you live yeah passport style I like the pocketbook style yeah
01:24:57
so if you live in like the United States and you want a pocketbook style passport
01:25:00
style phone it's kind of the only option and the thing is pixel software for
01:25:05
Android is by far my favorite Android software and so having that along with all the Google smarts on a passport
01:25:12
style phone allowed me to sort of ignore some of the the issues with it also we've talked about this before probably
01:25:20
the best phone to use closed um and I like that mindset when it comes to folding phones because the Galaxy uh Z
01:25:29
fold has always been a phone that's been like oh we want you to use this open
01:25:33
most of the time and they make it a little bit awkward to use unfort because it's so narrow but this phone is like a
01:25:40
really nice aspect ratio closed it's short and it's nice and I like it um I'm
01:25:45
really hoping that the second generation is significantly better I doubt it will
01:25:49
be maybe the third generation will be uh I just want a better interior screen maybe some smaller bezels and that's
01:25:56
about it I really like that phone shout out to the pixel fold I'm looking forward to the pixel fold too as well
01:26:00
yeah yeah imagine do you know you said it's narrow and awkward to use on the
01:26:04
front of the zold yeah remember the essential phone 2 concept That was supposed to be that like skinny phone
01:26:10
the gem phone yeah yeah yeah that so many people were like excited for that I think they were just excited cuz it was
01:26:17
different it's just weird and different yeah but if you remember the original
01:26:21
Samsung Galaxy fold it was super slim and narrow and then it just had a small screen inside of the front yes it had
01:26:28
the weirdest bezels ever looking back that was a very first first gen the screen broke yeah I
01:26:35
mean yeah the interior screen broke so um yeah awesome cool well I think that's
01:26:40
going to round it out for this episode I think it's time for trivia to wrap it up
01:26:45
trivia where eyes on it time for me to expose how little I know about scoring music for video games I
01:26:56
guess I don't know anything about I feel like Ellis is gonna be upset that he's
01:26:59
not here for this because Dad does sound stuff for World of Warcraft or did at one point oh what
01:27:07
hasn't his family done dang close to this trivia question okay Ellis is like
01:27:12
Nicki Minaj is my neighbor which of these products is not a real product that I've received an email about option
01:27:20
a flappy the intelligent cat door flap how much AI is involved in it these are all AI related unfortunately uh option b
01:27:29
Willow a smart outdoor swing set that generates electricity option C Jedi a medical
01:27:37
delivery drone for hospitals jenzy jenzy and saber a smart pepper spray device these all could be real like
01:27:48
honestly no they really all could be real can you play the music oh yes yes sorry
01:27:55
is this the waiting music I already saw that think we're supposed to play the
01:27:58
music while you're asking the question right uh technically I think it's
01:28:01
supposed to be like the Jeopardy this is how much time you have to answer it's
01:28:05
broken sorry cuz this doesn't seem like the right music but this is what this is the
01:28:10
right music okay you guys said that the same yeah we did yeah we did oh I [Music]
01:28:16
missed all right flip them and read boys all right DAV we all we all pick the same the same one we all picked B
01:28:26
the swing set all right you are correct uh would you like to read what Ellis wrote about for the swing set yes um
01:28:34
Ellis did a collab on this one um Willow is a revolutionary Alternative Energy Solution intended for families with
01:28:41
children comprising of both photonic and electromechanical transductors Willow focuses on two energy sources the sun
01:28:51
via solar panels and the near unlimited energy of a child uh via a series of passive components aimed at turning a
01:28:59
child's kinetic energy into useful energy so that's too good for CES that's
01:29:04
why that's really needs to be a PR person he can really spin this stuff the reason I picked that was because I was
01:29:12
like there's no way that a child is going to be able to create enough energy
01:29:16
on a play set that is going to be useful to your home in any way which is why it's realistic but what if the
01:29:21
electricity is just like to power some outdoor lights that are on the swing set for your yard have you a child they have
01:29:28
energy I had heard of the smart pepper spray already me too I got that email for that yeah I think I saw it on like a
01:29:36
Verge article what's smart about it I don't know um knows how many times has
01:29:42
Bluetooth and it connects to a safety app so I guess every time so it alerts someone when you're spraying some yeah
01:29:48
so it has like a map and then it sends the location whenever it's deployed that's actually that's really SM also
01:29:54
the smart cat door sounds like a very good idea sounds handy yeah what is so smart about it also has an app I'm
01:30:01
hoping that it can tell when it's been used so you can maybe say like oh I haven't seen my cat in a while when did
01:30:06
it go outside but also I'm hoping when it comes inside maybe at night it can
01:30:10
then lock it it does yeah so the cat's not going out at night it not only detects when a cat tries to bring in
01:30:18
prey into your home um I don't know how that works I have no idea leave that
01:30:22
bird outside it'll lock the flap also um it has a prey detection camera and an
01:30:27
app experience definely a camera it's just a visual AI going I see something
01:30:32
not your cat awesome interesting all right I think that's cool we all got points for that yeah Co that's pretty
01:30:37
sick what does that bring the time for us to get it oh yeah that is a good question isn't
01:30:43
it uh let's see how many songs I'm just gonna guess but they were so close to
01:30:48
each other I that's why I have to guess yeah we just have to guess all right I
01:30:52
have no idea either yeah what if we all get it right again since we all got it right it looks like
01:30:59
Marquez is at 20 points nice Andrew's at 14 carry the one do the whatever thank
01:31:07
thought it was good David is also tied at 20 points Perfect all right 2020 RuneScape AB RuneScape was awarded the
01:31:15
Guinness Book of World Records for most original pieces of music in a video game
01:31:19
in 2017 as of November of 2023 how many total songs are there in ruinscape and option A is 100 sorry option A is
01:31:32
1,589 songs option b is 1,362 songs option C is 1,027 songs and option D is 856 songs if you need me to read that again
01:31:50
I can read it again man that's difficult they're all close [Music] all of them seem absurd to me so it's
01:31:58
too many either way yeah I just want to get this right because it's run escape uh
01:32:17
okay all right smile and wave I wrote C did you all write the same thing no I also wrote C you said c David yeah
01:32:28
incorrect what'd you write Marquez I wrote a is also incorrect option b 1,362 I originally wrote B but I was
01:32:39
like the last question was do I get an extra point if this is what the Music Cape looks like man I actually don't
01:32:44
think you're far off with that I think I'm pretty close right it's like a harp
01:32:48
nice hey wait point no you guys didn't know what did you write Marquez I wrote
01:32:53
1, 89 which was the first one oh okay yeah H yeah they're Banger songs too just saying that's too many songs
01:33:01
they're good you didn't have to go that hard The Sims has like 60 and that's way
01:33:05
too many wait I recently saw a video of Katy Perry recording her song for The Sims and she had to do it in
01:33:13
Sim very funny would you guys like a bonus question for no points or we can do it for points I would like a no
01:33:20
points bonus this is a an obs question for this week this question is about crayfish I love crawfish I love crawfish
01:33:30
see exactly so oh crayfish cads mug Mud Bugs ditch bugs freshwater lobsters Mountain lobsters and yabes are all the
01:33:40
name for the same creature um these little Crustaceans who are close relative of the main lobster can be
01:33:47
found all across the US and have dozens of regional nicknames crawfish can live on every continent in the world except
01:33:54
for which two every continent in the world I don't think I can name all the continents
01:34:02
there's less than 10 right there's seven seven yeah right right this is tough yeah cuz I'm going
01:34:17
by that is tough no I'm going I'm going that but I'm going be mad because I changed
01:34:25
my answer halfway all right I wrote Antarctica assuming we all wrote that right I did and
01:34:33
Australia you are half right oh yeah and then what did you have all I wrote Antarctica in
01:34:41
Asia oh damn you're close to close I wrote Antarctica and then I wrote Australia then crossed out and Road
01:34:49
Asia Marquez is just a hybrid of me and Andrew you guys America you're half right
01:34:55
you're all half right uh the two places that you won't find Crawfish are
01:35:00
according to we love crawfish.com uh Africa and Antarctica thinking Africa maybe would you like a fun fact about
01:35:08
crawfish sure that wasn't F fact why you bring up C I have a fun fact about crawfish I can eat 60 in a day did you
01:35:15
do that wait have you ever sorry before the fun have you ever heard the parks and wck joke where he's like I think I'm
01:35:22
allergic to Sushi anytime I eat 80 Sushi and throw up I've not heard that wait so when did
01:35:28
you eat 60 crawfish uh a couple years ago my neighbor had a party where they imported a ton of them directly from
01:35:35
Louisiana and had a backyard barbecue crawfish party basically and just had them all stacked on a table and I just
01:35:41
sat at the table and ate them the entire party Jesus they were amazing God I also
01:35:46
watched him boil them alive individually have you guys gotten the Tik tocker who
01:35:50
does the Crawfish boils I have seen he's been going for years Mariah why did you
01:35:54
bring that why why did you introduce that question there was a video I don't
01:35:59
know if it was a bone appe petitte video or like some con k Nast video it was uh
01:36:05
interviewing people from every state and asking them what they call a crawfish oh
01:36:10
cry daddy probably cish I was just in New Orleans over Christmas break um for no reason and you mean nin Nala yeah I I
01:36:22
never knew that people called it no Nola yeah yeah anyway uh there was a band there that I saw called caddy problems
01:36:30
they were really good nice and uh or caddy issues one of the two probably C CAD issues it's a funny name but also I
01:36:37
forgot about the whole croad thing and it was everywhere so you couldn't forget true
01:36:43
amazing all right all right so crawfish fact uh they can shed SL Mt their shells
01:36:50
up to 15 times within their lifetime and each time they shed their shell they double in size oh oh my God I'm glad
01:36:58
they can only do it 15 times that's a lot of doubles that's exponential growth
01:37:02
they double it si the difference between this a level 12 and a level 15 is crazy
01:37:08
wait what's two to the 15 do you know this off at the top of your head ask the R 2 4 8 16 no I got
01:37:15
this 32 64 128 256 512 1024 20 48 4096 8,00 83 16,36 16, 366 32,0 722 how you do power no
01:37:42
idea 64,000 65,000 oh there we go 400 65,500 and 64 what was the number you said
01:37:55
before that it's 32,768 oh I went too far which means these crads by the end of their life can be
01:38:04
32,670 768 wait is it double in size of the of the size of the of the original size or of the new size of the new size
01:38:14
I think it's each time they just double size they double double how does anything get
01:38:20
32,768 times they're probably born like that big man microscopic but even even
01:38:25
if it was a one a single cell organism and then by the end of its life it had 32,768 that makes sense it's 1 cim
01:38:33
across when it's mol for the first time then it's 32,2 m across huge it can't be it's got to be
01:38:43
tiny when 33 M CAD that would be incredible have you ever heard of dragon's breath candy no this is a Tik
01:38:50
Tok that I saw recently but they say it it expands a million times because it's
01:38:55
a you turn into a loop and then you cross it over and then pull it again but like a million sounds absurd but it's
01:39:01
really only probably like 20 times pulling it because it is doubling every time look
01:39:06
like Str and it winds up looking like hair at but it's like a Taffy almost interes my second tiny fact not as
01:39:14
exciting is they walk forwards but they swim backwards oh yes walk forwards that
01:39:20
I did know that's all I got all right fun fact I also so walk forwards swim backwards that's it for this week on
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01:39:56
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