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November 08, 2024 / 10:56

This episode discusses reactions from tech leaders to Donald Trump's political comeback, featuring comments from Mark Zuckerberg, Tim Cook, Jeff Bezos, and Elon Musk.

Mark Zuckerberg, Tim Cook, and Mark Cuban offered polite congratulations to Trump, while Jeff Bezos's response was more effusive, calling it an extraordinary political comeback.

The conversation highlights the motivations behind these tech CEOs' statements, with a focus on shareholder interests and the implications of their relationships with Trump.

Peter Thiel's influence on Trump and his political connections are examined, with discussions on how Thiel's support has shaped the political landscape.

Elon Musk's financial investments in Trump's campaign and their potential benefits are also covered, alongside predictions about the future dynamics between Musk and Trump.

TL;DR

Tech leaders react to Trump's comeback, highlighting motivations and influences, especially Peter Thiel's role in shaping political dynamics.

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big Tech leaders are taking to social
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media of course to congratulate Donald
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Trump this is this is typical let's just
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start off with that Mark Zuckerberg Tim
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Cook Sai Nela sunar Pai and Sam mman
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wished Trump well I thought they were
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pretty anodin so did um Mark Cuban he
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was like godspeed You know what I mean
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he was like you won fair and square
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which I thought was fair I thought that
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was classy of him to do so he didn't
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like slavishly say something the person
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who did Jeff Bezos was quite different
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from the others um he was on the first
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to kiss the ring calling Trump's win an
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extraordinary political comeback and
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decisive Victory it it had it did not
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have a tone of someone who owns the
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Washington Post he's the only one who
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actually has another thing he's got to
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think about which he didn't at all in
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any way so I thought that was
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problematic and it was much more
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effusive than the others um you know
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they all want to work with this
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Administration they've done it before um
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they don't want to be in his crosshairs
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and they'd like to get rid of uh all the
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different investigations and and things
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like that although a lot of Republicans
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like these investigations very much and
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so that's a really interesting uh push
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back um talk a little bit about these uh
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CEOs obviously you more than more than
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anyone Tech CEOs weit in they're smart
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to do it Cara he responds to this type
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of obsequious flattery and if they're
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they're they're focused on their
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shareholders they're smart to do it and
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it's it you kind of have to you throw up
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a little bit in your mouth when when
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it's more than anything just than just a
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polite congratulations but if you
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reverse engineered to shareholder value
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they're smart to do it just a lot of
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foreign leaders pretend that he's really
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interesting and and that they're
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fascinated with him and he's going to
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get more he's going to get
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more you know when when you're courting
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someone and they tell you that they're
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really into jewelry or baseball trading
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cards and that they will like you if you
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buy them these things you buy them these
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things and he's made it clear that if
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you say nice things about him it works
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and um so I think they're smart to do it
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yeah I agree but I thought Bezos was a
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little bit abusive compare if you could
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put them next to each other it's really
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quite a different tone and he does also
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own the Washington Post he might have
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been a little less it's around it's all
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about money The Washington Post is
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nothing but I understand for right now
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he shouldn't own it then he shouldn't
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own it then stop owning something where
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you have to we're talking about should
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versus is he Jeff Bezos is all about
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money he already he already did that
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already with the dumping the uh
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endorsement so I just felt like he
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should have maybe been a little less
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kiss assy anything about the Peter teal
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factor I think he's the quiet one here
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mus gets all the we're going to talk
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about Elon in a second but I think Peter
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teal is the one the real Mastermind here
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in so many ways um and I know people I
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thought he clocked Trump early um and
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was in there the last election I think
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he clocked Vance um I think he's been
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quiet he doesn't need all the attention
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the way uh musk does I think he's far
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smarter than Elon Musk in many ways um
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and I think he's all roads lead to Peter
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teal in this regard even though it
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seemed like he was out of the election
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right but I don't I feel like is every
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one of his tenants is here is present
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here you you first highlighted this to
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me and it struck me as something I
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hadn't I just hadn't thought about it
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not at least it I hadn't connected the
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dots the way you had and I've thought
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about it more and more and I think what
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you're saying makes sense because I mean
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here's the scary thing with Trump's age
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and body mass index there's about a one
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in three chance he leaves the White
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House feed first you know in four years
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and 2 months an obese what is he 78y old
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man it would be very hard to get life
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insurance and that puts a guy in the
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White House who will never utter one
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word to Peter teal and that word is no
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he owes everything to Peter teal he
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that's how he got to be a senator that's
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how he got the VP spot and so if Peter
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Teal calls him and says I need you to do
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away with this tax or put a tariff here
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or deregulate this or create a floating
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island where billionaires don't have to
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pay tax or we totally ban the following
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activities or
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so Vance Vance if he can will do it I I
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just don't think Vance could ever say no
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to Peter he is where he is he is one
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heartbeat from the presidency because
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not because of an impressive business
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career not because he's a great
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politician because of Peter teal yep yep
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that's the one to watch and even though
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Elon as usual the circus clown likes to
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take all the attention as Bloomberg put
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Elon is about to find out what $130
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million for Trump gets him we mentioned
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the Tesla stock surge that's added 26
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billion to his net worth but Elon stands
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to benefit in a number of other ways
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including government efficiency
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commission role EV and autonomous
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driving policies that benefit Tesla and
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more government contracts for SpaceX uh
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Tom has previously pledged his support
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for elon's goal of sending a rocket to
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Mars um that one I don't mind so much I
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honestly don't and as I mentioned I
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think Elon merges x with true social so
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I also think they're going to have a
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falling out I really feel like this is
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coming if I had to make any one
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prediction that's what I feel like Peter
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is very quiet in the background and gets
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exactly what he wants Elon can't help
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himself and neither can Trump and
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Trump's the president so
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thoughts well
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look this arguably you could say that
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Musk $119
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million in donations to Trump were one
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of the best investments that's ever been
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made he made it over approximately 3 or
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6 months and in exchange his net worth
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has gone up $15 billion just from his
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Tesla shares which skyrocketed on on
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news that Trump was retaking the White
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House so if if someone said to any
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billionaire or any institution or any
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hedge fund uh here's 9 million if you
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give us $119 million we think if the
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markets are right there's a two 23
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chance you're going to get 15 billion
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back yep so you got to give it to the
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guy the whole best best investment of
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the year was must dollar uh uh his his
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$19 million investment in the Trump
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campaign yeah because he was NE if she
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had won he was never going to get that
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dinged for it also no so yeah that's
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exactly right 15 billion on 119 million
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that's the best trade of 2024 yeah so
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what what's going to happen next now
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well so I need to disclose we talked
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about this I was planning you know under
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see above got it wrong I thought poly
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Market the gambling site which had it
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was 4060 own by Peter teal or was
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invested in by Peter teal I didn't know
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that so 4060 Harris to Trump's
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likelihood of being elected so you were
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going to get two and a half to one I saw
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that as asymmetric upside because I
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thought it was a coin flip according to
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the polls that I saw so I was I was
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going to take
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$400,000 and put it on Harris thinking I
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could get a million back and I want to
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be clear for people listening this is
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not investing this is gambling and I can
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afford to lose that and it would ruin
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maybe an afternoon but it wouldn't have
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any impact on my life and I don't want
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to in any way tell people that they
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should be doing this so but I was
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planning to do it so I went to the site
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signed up for it wait till Harris went
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down to 38 then up to 42 and the site
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said you can't be a US citizen and then
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it said you can transfer money in from
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the UK so I could not figure out how to
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get one of these betting sites up so I
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went to a different different strategy I
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decided to I sold I did a a call a
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caller call strategy on Donald Trump
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media and that is I thought if this
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stock if he loses the stock goes below
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10 if he wins it could Skyrocket but I
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also thought if he wins this is no
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longer a prediction vessel it's just a
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shitty company and I actually thought
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there's a chance it might go down even
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if he win so MH I sold calls at 20 bucks
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a share
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way way into the money thinking this
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thing could crash there's a good
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likelihood it could crash but I was
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worried well what if something [ __ ]
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crazy happens and it goes to 400 and I
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owe someone $8 million who I sold these
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calls to so I bought calls way out of
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the money at 60 I got $20 in premium for
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buying or selling calls at 20 I got six
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bucks I cost me six bucks to buy calls
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at 60 so my downside was limited to like
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two and a half million bucks my upside
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capped at 1 and a. half million and
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what's happened is he won the stock
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spiked I'm like oh [ __ ] bad day for
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Scott but since then the strategy around
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it's no longer a tracking stock it's
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just a shitty company now it's come down
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I think it opened it about 31 bucks
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today yeah it's going down so I got very
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lucky it's better to be lucky than good
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I was going to make a straight wager on
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Harris and couldn't because I'm in the
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UK and I'm impatient with websites can't
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use it yeah that's right yeah so this
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this kind of I think it's called called
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a call a collared call strategy so far
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so far is working out because Donald
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Trump media I think people are waking up
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and going okay now what this is a shitty
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little company yeah that's no longer no
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longer a prediction machine or gambling
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it's basically shares or ownership in a
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company that has no revenues but is
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hemorrhaging money yeah interesting
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we'll wait and see for you but anyway
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Peter teal uh has and along with the
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founder of uh ethereum raised money for
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poly market last earlier this year just
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you know he's involved in that one too
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um it's interesting times but but musk
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and Trump falling out thought real quick
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thought then we'll move on you know more
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about this than I do Cara what it's an
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interesting Theory why do you think
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because you there was a movie with
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jeanclaude vanam where the future and
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the past person could never come
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together was called time cop I recommend
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it to everybody and you couldn't ever be
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in the same room with your future self
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and your present self or your past self
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whatever cuz would blow up the world
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can't take that in the same place and at
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the very end the the villain gets into a
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he gets them to get in a room together
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and then everything breaks loose and
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they blow up essentially I don't quite
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understand it whatever I think these
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people can't coexist together in the
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same room for much for too long that's
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my that's my sense maybe I'll be
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completely wrong but I feel like that
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Trump likes the attention and Elon likes
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the attention and there's only so much
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attention to go around and if the
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Remember When Bannon got kicked out when
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he got all the attention as being the
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puppet master of trump and then Bannon
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got and now he didn't get totally kicked
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to the curb he kept getting brought back
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but kicked to the curb and brought back
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he kicked Bannon to the curb very early
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we forget this uh in the Trump
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administration because he sucked up all
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the oxygen so Elon might be very smart
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to not suck up all the oxygen

Episode Highlights

  • Bezos's Controversial Praise
    Jeff Bezos's effusive praise for Trump raises eyebrows, contrasting with other tech leaders' responses.
    “Bezos was quite different from the others.”
    @ 00m 24s
    November 08, 2024
  • Tech Leaders Congratulate Trump
    Big Tech figures like Zuckerberg and Cook extend their congratulations to Trump after his victory.
    “They all want to work with this Administration.”
    @ 00m 50s
    November 08, 2024
  • Investment Strategies Post-Trump Win
    Discussion on the financial implications of Trump's victory and Musk's significant investment.
    “Musk's $119 million investment in Trump was one of the best investments ever made.”
    @ 05m 31s
    November 08, 2024

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