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Elon's Third Party Push | Pivot

July 10, 2025 / 01:14

This episode discusses Elon Musk's announcement of forming a new political party, the America Party, and the potential implications for the political landscape. The conversation includes commentary on third parties as spoilers in elections, referencing historical examples such as Ross Perot and Ralph Nader.

The hosts express skepticism about the viability of Musk's party, with one stating it appears to stem from sour grapes. They discuss the possibility of Musk influencing Senate and House seats, potentially blocking legislative agendas.

The dialogue highlights Musk's significant influence in politics, suggesting he may have played a role in Trump's election. The hosts weigh the pros and cons of Musk's political ambitions and their potential impact on the current political climate.

TL;DR

Elon Musk's new political party raises concerns about its impact on elections and political influence.

Video

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Trump is calling Elon quote off the
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rails following Musk's announcement that
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he'll form a new political party, the
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America Party. And actually, I think it
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can cause some real damage here, but
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maybe you don't.
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All third parties do when they're
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successful, and I don't think this one
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will be, is there spoilers. Bill Clinton
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should not have won the presidency, but
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Ross Perau took 18% of the vote and
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Clinton became president. Ralph Nater is
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what handed W the presidency. So, they
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can be spoilers, but this one has no
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reason for being. This one comes across
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as sour grapes. I think this will die a
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quick death.
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One of the things that he's been talking
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about is is knocking off a couple of
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seats, right? What if he goes after two
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Senate seats and eight House seats and
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then gets a certain number of people
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into place that could block everything
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instead of thinking it like let's have a
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third party, let's have a third blocker
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is how I look at it.
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What you're talking about is influence
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and Elon Musk has already proven he can
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have massive influence. There's a decent
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argument that he is the reason that
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Trump was elected.
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Correct.
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We'll see what happens. But I'm here for
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it because Musk isn't going to use his
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power and his money to get people
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elected who will support the president's
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agenda right now. So fine. My enemy's
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enemy is my friend.
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Episode Highlights

  • Elon Musk's Political Ambitions
    Musk announces the formation of the America Party, sparking controversy and debate.
    “Trump is calling Elon off the rails following Musk's announcement.”
    @ 00m 02s
    July 10, 2025
  • The Impact of Third Parties
    Discussion on how third parties can act as spoilers in elections, referencing historical examples.
    “All third parties do when they're successful is there spoilers.”
    @ 00m 10s
    July 10, 2025

Episode Quotes

Key Moments

  • Political Spoilers00:12
  • Third Party Dynamics00:46
  • Musk's Influence00:52

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