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Catalonia's Risky Gamble

November 19, 2012 / 03:00

This episode discusses separatist movements in Spain, Canada, Belgium, and the UK, focusing on the Catalonia situation and its implications for the global economy.

The conversation highlights the increasing risks associated with sovereign debt in Spain, where domestic banks are purchasing a larger share of government bonds. This trend raises concerns about financial stability.

Arur Mas, the head of the Catalonia government, is mentioned as he seeks to advance Catalonia's claims for independence, which are rooted in historical, cultural, and linguistic factors.

The episode emphasizes the uncertainty these separatist movements create for foreign investors and the broader financial markets, particularly in light of ongoing global economic challenges.

Overall, the discussion reflects on the complex dynamics of regional autonomy and its impact on national and international finance.

TL;DR

The episode covers separatist movements in Spain and their economic implications, focusing on Catalonia's push for independence.

Episode

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the the problem uh not just in Spain but
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in many other countries with uh
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separatist uh movements uh is a real one
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and uh you know there is a problem in
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Canada there is a problem in Belgium as
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you know with potential split of the
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country there's a process now in motion
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in the UK uh for a potential referendum
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uh in Scotland and uh then in Spain
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there's uh essentially two uh regions
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right so there's a uh an anacronistic
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side to this of course right because in
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Europe uh you know the movement in terms
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of uh sovereignty has been away from the
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member countries and to Brussels or to
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Frankfurt over the last 10 years but at
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the same time we see this these other
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you know movements right within
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countries and uh you know I think this
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adds to the uncertainty this adds to the
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uh you know um the reluctance of foreign
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investors to come in. Remember that most
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of the bonds that the Spanish government
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is selling these days uh are being
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acquired are being bought by by domestic
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banking institutions. This is a very
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dangerous aspect of the situation which
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is that uh you're having more a greater
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and greater proportion of the uh
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sovereign debt being owned by domestic
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banks. So in other words, there's this
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massive increasingly massive
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concentration of risk right uh within
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the uh financial sector in each of the
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countries affected by the problem. In
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Italy we see the same development. So as
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to the uncertainty I can understand the
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strategy by the uh by Arur Mas who is
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the head of government of the autonomous
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government in Catalonia. I mean he
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perceives the situation as being one in
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which uh you know he can advance his
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goals. uh he perceives that the
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government in Madrid is against uh you
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know the wall and uh he perceives that
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it's the moment you know to um to
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reassert those claims and Catalonia you
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know has claims right uh that are based
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on history and culture and language and
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uh the same does Scotland and the same
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does Quebec right the timing is not
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great I don't think for the global
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economy or for financial markets because
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this is just going to add to the
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uncertainty and the volatility uh but
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that's the reality And uh I guess we
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need to be prepared for it.
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Episode Highlights

  • The Challenge of Separatism
    Separatist movements in Spain, Canada, and Belgium create significant uncertainty for investors.
    “This adds to the uncertainty.”
    @ 01m 12s
    November 19, 2012
  • Financial Risks in Sovereign Debt
    Increasing domestic ownership of sovereign debt raises risks within affected countries' financial sectors.
    “This is a very dangerous aspect of the situation.”
    @ 01m 29s
    November 19, 2012

Episode Quotes

  • This adds to the uncertainty.
    Catalonia's Risky Gamble
  • We need to be prepared for it.
    Catalonia's Risky Gamble

Key Moments

  • Separatist Movements00:25
  • Financial Uncertainty01:15
  • Catalonia's Claims02:15
  • Global Economic Volatility02:28

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