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Is Cyprus a Game Changer?

March 19, 2013 / 05:52

This episode discusses the financial bailout of Cyprus, its implications for small depositors, and the potential contagion risk to other Euro Zone economies.

The conversation highlights how Cyprus became the fourth Euro Zone economy to receive a formal bailout, following Ireland, Portugal, and Greece. The unique aspect of Cyprus's situation is its oversized financial system, with assets significantly exceeding the economy's size.

Key discussions include the controversial decision to impose a tax on depositors, affecting both small and large savers. The episode compares this approach to previous bailouts, emphasizing the differences in treatment of depositors.

The potential for a bank run in other countries like Italy and Spain is also addressed, as the fear of similar measures could lead depositors to withdraw their funds.

Overall, the episode warns of the serious implications of the bailout strategy in Cyprus and its potential to destabilize the broader Euro Zone banking system.

TL;DR

Cyprus's bailout imposes taxes on depositors, raising fears of bank runs in Europe.

Episode

5:52
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well Cypress is the fourth uh economy in
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the Euro Zone that has uh received a
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formal bailout after Ireland and uh
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Portugal and Greece and it is Tiny uh
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even smaller than the other three
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economies and the problem with uh Cyprus
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is that it has an oversized Financial
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system uh the Assets in the banking
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system are six or seven or eight times
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the size of the economy and there's a
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lot of uh foreign money there
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and uh including Russian money but also
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British money and the Europeans
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especially the Germans have been pushing
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for a solution that is very different
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from the one implemented in the other
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three countries in the sense that they
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wanted uh Savers uh so people with money
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in cpress to pay for you know part of
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the bailout about half of it and this is
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why they've imposed a tax on depositors
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a tax on wealth essentially but of
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course the controversy has been around
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the fact that U they didn't exclude
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small depositors they could have gone
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after just the big depositors those with
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uh you know several million dollars in
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in Cyprus but what they've done is
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essentially uh you know go after the uh
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the small depositors so so this is a
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very different kind of bailout uh it is
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as uh the media have reported a uh you
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know there's a before and an after with
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this kind of a bailout because not even
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small depositors now are safe yeah the
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bailout of Cyprus uh is qualitatively
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different and if uh you remember the uh
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bailout of uh certain banks in the
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United States was unimplemented under
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the premise that depositors would be
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guaranteed and in fact uh the FDIC here
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in the United States extended uh made
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its guarantees of depositors even bigger
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and so did the Europeans because they
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made Mutual guarantees uh at the
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beginning of the financial crisis 5
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years ago that depositors money wouldn't
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be touched uh so this is a uh a creates
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a very different dynamic
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uh it reminds one of Argentina in 2002
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where depositors actually U you know
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lost quite a bit of the money so in
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Cyprus right now what they've done is
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they they're saying that they're going
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to you know take away you know six 7%
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from small deposits and up to 10% or 11%
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from larger deposits but not only that
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uh they've also um decreed a bank
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holiday so right now what we have is
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that people cannot access their money of
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course why are they doing that well the
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reason is very simple which is that
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otherwise there would be a run on the
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banks so they're trying to create some
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stability now this week uh and try to
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sell the idea that uh it makes sense to
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uh you know uh Implement a haircut on
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depositors uh but remember again this
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was uh imposed by Europe because they
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didn't want to give Cyprus the entire
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amount of money that they needed for the
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bailout of the uh of the country well
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the the danger intrinsic to this kind of
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a bailout in Cyprus um raises the uh you
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know the question of whether there could
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be contagion into other economies in the
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Euro Zone uh also with banks that are in
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trouble and uh you know the uh the
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problem May spread first to places like
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uh Italy and Spain which so far have
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avoided a formal bailout the issue here
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is of course whether people with money
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and Italian or Spanish Banks start
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thinking that something like what
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happened or what is going on in Cypress
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right now could happen in Spain and
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Italy and of course you know there's
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nothing rational about Bank runs but if
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a bank run starts then it is rational
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for you to go to the bank and try to uh
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you know get out your money um so this
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is the the real danger is that people
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will extrapolate from what's going on in
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Cypress now and see the writing in the
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wall and just uh think well my money is
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also at risk let me take it out and of
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course you know banks on average keep
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you know four 5% of the deposits in cash
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right because they have the rest of the
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money they have it invested uh so it's
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very easy actually to bring down an
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entire banking system if depositors uh
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start to believe that uh their money is
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not safe so this is a what is going on
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in Cypress is actually pretty serious
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well what we've seen is that when the
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deal was announced over the weekend yes
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on Monday the markets the equity markets
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uh responded badly not just in Europe
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but around the world now that's Equity
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markets that's not you know driven by
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depositors depositors include pretty
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much everybody in these economies
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everybody has a bank account everybody
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has at least a small balance in the bank
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uh I think as a result of this bailout
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which again is very different from the
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one implemented in Greece or Portugal or
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Ireland uh I think the the risk of um
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other banking systems in Europe
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suffering from some kind of pressure
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from depositors has increased
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considerably now that doesn't mean that
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people are going to run to the bank in
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Spain or in Italy or or even in Portugal
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or in Greece right that doesn't mean
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that but it but it does mean that the
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risk has gone up significantly and it
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means that you know I think it's a
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warning signal for policy makers that
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something like this you know the uh the
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bailout of Cyprus perhaps is not the way
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to go uh because look at all the Uproar
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that he has created uh you know I think
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it is unnecessary to uh punish uh small
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Savers small depositors
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Episode Highlights

  • Cyprus Bailout Controversy
    Cyprus imposes a tax on depositors, affecting even small savers, unlike previous bailouts.
    “This is a very different kind of bailout.”
    @ 01m 13s
    March 19, 2013
  • Potential Contagion Risk
    Concerns arise that Cyprus's bailout could trigger bank runs in Italy and Spain.
    “The risk has gone up significantly.”
    @ 05m 07s
    March 19, 2013

Episode Quotes

  • This is a very different kind of bailout.
    Is Cyprus a Game Changer?
  • Not even small depositors now are safe.
    Is Cyprus a Game Changer?
  • The risk has gone up significantly.
    Is Cyprus a Game Changer?

Key Moments

  • Tax on Depositors01:13
  • Market Reaction04:22
  • Contagion Fears05:07

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