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Obama's Sedate Debate

October 04, 2012 / 07:09

This episode discusses the recent presidential debate, focusing on the performance of Mitt Romney and President Obama, tax policy, healthcare policy, and the budget deficit.

The conversation highlights Mitt Romney's energized style compared to President Obama's articulate but less dynamic approach. The speakers note that while style may attract media attention, substance is crucial for voters.

Key topics include tax policy, where Romney proposes lowering rates and broadening the tax base, while Obama aims to return to 1990s tax rates for high-income individuals. The complexities of these policies are acknowledged.

The episode emphasizes the importance of understanding the implications of budget deficits and the need for responsible government spending. It points out that both candidates provided some clarity on their plans but lacked specifics on spending cuts.

Overall, the discussion reflects on the debate's effectiveness in informing the public about critical economic issues that will impact future generations.

TL;DR

The episode analyzes the presidential debate, focusing on candidates' styles, tax policies, and the budget deficit's implications for the economy.

Episode

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there was a big difference uh with
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respect to style I think many people and
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I as I watched it were uh uh interested
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to see Mitt Romney was very energized
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and excited to be at the debate last
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night and I think the president uh very
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articulate but perhaps a little less so
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so with respect to style I think there
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were there were some differences there
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in terms of substance they covered a
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huge set of issues uh and I think it was
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very interesting to me to hear them uh
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talk about tax policy Health Care policy
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energy policy what they're going to do
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about the budget deficit and many other
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critical areas that are really going to
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have a just huge effect on how the
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country performs economically in the
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years ahead with respect to the
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substance I think you know it's somewhat
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less clear partly because the two
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candidates could only summarize their
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own policies or their opponent policies
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at a very high level so some of these
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things are quite complicated energy
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policy tax policy Medicare policy and so
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forth and so I think on that Dimension
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it was somewhat less uh less clear uh
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but in in terms of the style I think
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many people agreed uh had the view
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afterwards that in terms of style uh
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that that the Challenger Mitt Romney
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fared somewhat better on that front so I
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think that the the mainam mainstream
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press enjoys the style stuff quite a lot
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uh and so but I think in terms of the
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voters and not just the voters but kids
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and people who don't vote just the whole
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country it's really the substance that's
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ultimately going to matter and in at
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some level I think it would be helpful
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if uh the media did a better job of
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educating people a bit more about the
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challenges that the country faces we
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have some really big challenges we have
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this huge budget deficit demographics
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that are going to change quite
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significantly over the next few decades
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as we go from having five non five
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non-elderly adults for every elderly
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adult to three for every elderly adult
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and that's going to create some strain
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on uh on the economy because of Social
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Security and Medicare and other things
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and I think to the extent that the media
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could do a better job educating people
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on these challenges that would I think
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make it uh more uh then it would make it
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helpful then more helpful to telescope
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in on the specifics of the policies
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because the policies end up being
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summarized at a very high level
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unfortunately and so that causes people
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to focus a little more on style than on
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substance
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I think on tax policy so tax policy is
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going to be quite possibly issue number
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one after the uh whoever wins the
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election and I think the debate did do
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quite a good job of highlighting the
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differences between the two candidates
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uh you know on the oneand uh Mitt Romney
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has a proposal out that uh involves
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lowering tax rates and broadening the
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base and one thing that he's been
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criticized for is not specifying how is
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he going to broaden the base when we
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talk about broadening the Bas Cas that
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might involve well let's get rid of the
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mortgage interest deduction or let's not
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allow people to deduct state and local
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income taxes from their taxes and so
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forth there's a lot of specifics as soon
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as you talk about those specific
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deductions immediately people say well
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wait wait a sec I'm not I'm not so sure
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and so I think one thing that Mitt
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Romney has been criticized for is even
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people like to hear lower rates but
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that's going to have to come along with
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something else if we're not going to
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have revenues plummet and so last night
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he he did sketch out in a
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in in somewhat more clearly what he has
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in mind on that front with respect to
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the president I think the you know the
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president sort of talked about the
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policies that he has been pursuing and
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that he uh continues to uh push for
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going forward so as an as one example I
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think that a big difference exists in
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terms of how are you going to tax very
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high inome people uh and it is I think
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there's they had a vigorous debate about
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that the the Obama uh Team uh the Obama
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Administration would uh basically push
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to return the tax rates to where they
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were let's say in the 1990s uh and the
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Romney uh uh plan would call for
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lowering them below where they currently
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are and that is that's a really big
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difference and that is going to have a
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big effect on the economy on budget
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deficits and other things too I think it
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was I think it was somewhat helpful but
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I think if you really want to understand
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what the different plans would mean for
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you and your family or for your company
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or for just the country I think one the
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debate wouldn't give you enough
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information unfortunately and I I don't
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fault the moderator or the candidates
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it's just it is somewhat complicated but
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I think it people who tuned into that
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debate and listened closely should
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emerge with a somewhat better better
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understanding of of the two plans so I I
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I think that I think the debate 90
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minutes there's a lot to cover I think
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that that we learned quite a lot I think
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they did a good job of explaining
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why it's
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not great for the country to be running
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such a large budget deficits because
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essentially at some level we're leaving
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this burden to Future generations to our
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kids uh to basically pay for these these
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deficits that we are running up so I
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think they both did a very good job of
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sort of arguing why we shouldn't keep
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doing that uh and why in it's not in the
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country's best economic interests uh
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with respect to and we heard a lot about
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tax policy if you're going to lower the
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budget deficit I I think I I agree with
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the candidates that if you grow the
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economy more quickly that's going to
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help to reduce it but we're also going
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to have to make some difficult choices
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with respect to government spending and
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the Big Ticket items in government
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spending Social Security Medicare
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defense and so forth we didn't hear much
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about how exactly they would slow the
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spending on those programs and right now
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the the budget deficit in the US is
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quite large it's basically you know over
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a trillion dollars so in terms of per us
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resident that's more than uh
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$3,000 per us resident that's a lot
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that's a lot to be to be uh for us as a
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country to be borrowing each year and so
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how we're going to bring that down is is
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going to be driven to a large extent by
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what we do on spending and the
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candidates were pretty vague there
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Episode Highlights

  • Debate Style vs. Substance
    The debate showcased a stark contrast in style between the candidates, with Mitt Romney appearing more energized. 'In terms of style, many people agreed that the Challenger Mitt Romney fared somewhat better.'
    “In terms of style, many people agreed that the Challenger Mitt Romney fared somewhat better.”
    @ 01m 32s
    October 04, 2012
  • Tax Policy Differences
    The candidates highlighted significant differences in their tax policies, particularly regarding high-income earners. 'A big difference exists in terms of how are you going to tax very high income people.'
    “A big difference exists in terms of how are you going to tax very high income people.”
    @ 04m 16s
    October 04, 2012
  • Budget Deficit Concerns
    Both candidates addressed the importance of managing the budget deficit, emphasizing its impact on future generations. 'We're leaving this burden to future generations to pay for these deficits.'
    “We're leaving this burden to future generations to pay for these deficits.”
    @ 05m 39s
    October 04, 2012

Episode Quotes

  • It's really the substance that's ultimately going to matter.
    Obama's Sedate Debate
  • We're leaving this burden to future generations to pay for these deficits.
    Obama's Sedate Debate

Key Moments

  • Debate Style01:32
  • Tax Policy04:16
  • Budget Deficit05:39

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