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Europe's Policies Increasingly Risk Default and Uncompetitiveness

September 14, 2012 / 04:04

This episode features Wharton Finance Professor Franklin Allen discussing the economic policies of the Euro Zone, debt monetization by the European Central Bank and the FED, and their implications for middle-class wealth.

Allen draws parallels between current economic conditions and the pre-World War II era, highlighting how the destruction of middle-class wealth contributed to the rise of extreme politics in Germany.

He emphasizes the risks of substantial redistribution from northern to southern Europe, referencing Greece's potential defaults and the broader implications for global stability.

The conversation also touches on inflation trends, asset prices, and the lessons learned from Japan's quantitative easing policies, which did not lead to consumer price inflation but resulted in a loss of industrial competitiveness.

Overall, the episode raises concerns about the future economic landscape in Europe and the US, particularly in relation to emerging economies like China and India.

TL;DR

Wharton Professor Franklin Allen discusses Euro Zone economic policies and their parallels to pre-WWII conditions affecting middle-class wealth and competitiveness.

Episode

4:04
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the destruction of middle class wealth
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in parts of the Euro Zone under current
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economic policies has parallels with the
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pre-World War II era that ushered in
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economic collapse followed by extreme
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politics says Wharton Finance Professor
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Franklin Allen debt monetizing policies
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by the European Central Bank and the FED
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may also reduce competitiveness against
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China India and other emerging
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economies so of course one of the
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reasons that the Germans are
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against this kind of
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monetary intervention is the experience
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in 1923 with the
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hyperinflation now people veryy on this
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but many people argue that it was the
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destruction of middleclass households
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wealth which was mostly held in the form
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of bonds or Bank
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deposits that really allowed the rise of
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Hitler in the 1930s and then the second
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world war that followed and of course
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this
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is an important issue not just for
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Germany but for the world since the the
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entire world suffered very much from
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this terrible war that we had in the
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middle of the 20th century now hopefully
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it won't come to that anything like that
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in uh modern times but there is the risk
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that we will have
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substantial
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redistribution from across countries
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from the north to the South that's
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already effectively happening with this
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uh possibility of default that we've
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seen we saw Greece default already they
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may start defaulting on their official
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sector debt which will be a more
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straightforward uh redistribution from
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the north to the South but there are
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many other ways it can happen so
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inflation is a possibility I think we
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already see it in asset prices if you
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look at stock markets they're doing very
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well I think that's the first kind of
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inflation that we see Consumer Price
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inflation that's much more complicated I
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don't think we have a very good
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understanding of how these quantitative
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operations actually might lead to
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Consumer Price inflation what we've seen
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in Japan is that they did this kind of
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quantitive easing it never led to
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Consumer Price inflation in fact they
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have uh deflation what we saw in Japan
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was that this kind of low interest rate
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this kind of attempt at Monetary
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stimulus led to a grad ual loss of
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competitiveness of the industry in the
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country and they've gone from being
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arguably the most competitive country in
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the world in terms of their firms to
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ones where they're no longer at that
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level they're struggling to compete with
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Korean firms and they don't have the
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kind of dominance that they used to have
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and I think that's the real worry for
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our economies in Europe and the US from
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these kinds of monetary measures
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that we lose our competitiveness
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particular Visa China and India and the
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new upcoming emerging
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economies

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Episode Highlights

  • Destruction of Middle Class Wealth
    The destruction of middle class wealth parallels pre-World War II economic conditions.
    “The destruction of middle class wealth is a serious issue.”
    @ 00m 19s
    September 14, 2012
  • Economic Redistribution Risks
    There is a risk of substantial redistribution from northern to southern economies in Europe.
    “We may face substantial redistribution from the north to the south.”
    @ 01m 46s
    September 14, 2012
  • Inflation Trends
    Current trends show inflation in asset prices, raising concerns about future economic stability.
    “Inflation is a possibility; we already see it in asset prices.”
    @ 02m 15s
    September 14, 2012

Episode Quotes

  • The destruction of middle class wealth is a serious issue.
    Europe's Policies Increasingly Risk Default and Uncompetitiveness
  • We may face substantial redistribution from the north to the south.
    Europe's Policies Increasingly Risk Default and Uncompetitiveness
  • Inflation is a possibility; we already see it in asset prices.
    Europe's Policies Increasingly Risk Default and Uncompetitiveness

Key Moments

  • Middle Class Crisis00:19
  • Economic Redistribution01:46
  • Inflation Concerns02:15

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