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okay Dana this uh this show we've got Pete Holmes who's a buddy of mine that I
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see at Largo mostly a very funny comedian
a funny funny man
very tall guy
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with good hair which obviously infuriates me
and
incredible hair incredible hair we hair for about 30
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minutes and uh I I think you've worked with Pete also
uh I ran into Pete when I was first
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moved back down to LA remember I used to start going to out to dinner with you all the time during that during that
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period of time I ran into him at Conan's and
he seemed really affable he he is a
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really large person but doesn't but he's a gentle person so he doesn't you know but anyway so I went on his podcast and
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we talked about that and I did largo with him and we did improv and stuff but I hadn't seen him in a long time
uh he
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nice generous person yes go ahead
yeah I'm sorry we get into Jud But he's tight with Jud he did a show called Crashing
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on HBO
uh the story that he to get to that was very very interesting to me and
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working with different people and doing different shows and he has a podcast and he's just got a lot of he also is a bit
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religious and we we got into a slightly deep conversation all of us which
we did you know we can use now and then on this
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show
we got a little philosophical about the universe so forth and so on but someone who's uh really raised in a
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fundamentalist Christian environment and then goes out into the crazy world of standup comedy and it and it's
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potentially polluted by minds like David Spade
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i'm just pollution that's all I am is brain pollution noise pollution
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everything i talk too much so we'll give it to you right now uh here is Pete uh
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you don't need to know anything else here he is
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are you on the road
i am on the road
i can tell i look at that hotel
i am
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certain of this more than I'm certain of anything i said it's not great cuz I'm on the road and they said it's the only
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date they had and I know saying that to both of you you're going to both be like we could have done it another time i
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know it
no I just said make it as difficult for Pete as possible
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i just sent a memo eight months ago it said homes in June i looked at it today
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homes in June so here we are it's all set
yeah i wanted cuz summer's starting
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we wanted a happy guest but you you look fine i mean yeah he looks good he looks You actually look good for a hotel room
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yeah I did i got the makeup mirror here i tilted a lamp
and I paid for the
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premium internet boys
oh you know what i've done that i don't like it but I've done it
i paid i was like wait I got fly
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i'm very excited to be on the show and to see both of you and I paid for that premium that's how you know I'm not just
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saying it
no I'll Venmo you i'll
You're sincere [Laughter]
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i think it might be time to become an a Hilton Honors member and just get it where you get the immediate
I think I
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might splurge yeah and go full Hilton Honors look at
his [ __ ] hair pete has [ __ ] hair and he's hiding in a hat he
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doesn't He doesn't even know what he has god damn you can't make it look thin [ __ ] looks like Roger Rabbit can't
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you guys both have fabulous hair i just don't
That's what we were getting at thank you
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just in a forward angle like this it Look at that hair
this [ __ ] makes
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me mad every time I talk to him he's seven feet tall which I hate then he's got cool hair
he's six He's 66 don't
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make him into a giant are you really 66 uh I am 6'5 and a half but that's not
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funny to say
over 62 my friendship goes down about 40% cuz I don't want to be around
line them up for me okay kevin
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Nean Conan O'Brien Pete Holmes
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uh
Kirk Fox is tall
the magician uh Pen
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pen Labyrinth
pen
i'm I'm as tall as Conan's hair like Conan's pompador
oh he
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has a couple
what a cheater
and we're Yeah we're lined up but I'm lined up to his hair so he's probably like 6'3" I
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guess and 3 in of orange
of orange just fuzz when I go on dates I say "Wear
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ballet shoes." That's a prerequisite for girls and then I say "Flatten your hair with oil as flat as it goes you don't
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get one quarter inch higher."
Mhm
like that very very much
yeah they get that ahead of time do you what i I I told you
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Spade that I really like the movie The Wrong Misty i think Lauren Lapis is amazing and I really thought that movie was a lot of fun
and then that line she
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accuses you of wearing a wig in the movie
oh she does
yeah oh my goodness
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yeah there's a moment where she's clearly improvising and everyone laughs it's like a blooper in the movie
yeah
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because I do like at least I'm not wearing a wig and I'm like wait I'm sorry this character is wearing a wig
no
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I'm not pete this is where it is i'm kind of Everyone thinks I'm wearing a wig full time
and I wouldn't make it
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this [ __ ] ratty is it because of Tommy Boy you think
yeah because of the fan and Tommy boy
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it's uh Ted Dansen 2 fake piece in Cheers so I think people think Ted
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Dansen is bald
oh yeah you know Tommy we had to Dana will love this lore we
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did it and I said "I think it's funny." Which I was wrong i said "We walk by a
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big fan it blows my hair back and I'm bald." I go "I think it should be uh
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less goofy like it should just be a piece of it is
bald like a little bit in
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the back not
whatever we did we did it not a thousand%." And then we flew back
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to LA or wherever New York to do the show and they looked at it and they go "You can see from this clip." And I go
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"It's not that funny." They go "Do you want to come back to a full bald cap and do it again?" I go "Yes I don't want
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to." But of course as you the three of us know if it's for something funny
it's
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a it's a bigger It's bigger than you you have to do it so
bald
i didn't know that
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was a re-shoot there's your clip we're four minutes in you got your clip
you know about clips i love it
yeah you got
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to clip it clip it the secret behind David Spade's hairpiece huge that's true
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honored to be involved
i put my hat on now
tommy Boy is a trender man tommy Boy
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always gets out there what trends on Yeah it got weird what we You made it weird what is
You made it you made it
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weird you know what I've noticed is we we had um whenever we have a beautiful
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woman on I've noticed that as much as things change you kind of can't compete
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with a beautiful guest like I've noticed that like deeply handsome people and deeply beautiful people tend to
they win
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across the board somehow in a video medium they're coming
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out ahead again jesus Christ
they're coming out ahead again but I'm always surprised there'll be
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something that I'm like this is profound this is lifechanging this is huge
and then that does fun and then somebody
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somebody beautiful being witty and charming is like we can't not look at that we have to see it
yeah we know some
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beautiful people out there
but we don't do the like I should have learned that
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you know what I mean like whoops the biggest mistake in show and then that
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kind of clicky thing
we're supposed to be average i'm not including you in this because you're tall you're good and
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Dana's a good looking dude i'm sick of being in the middle here and Malcolm in the middle over here
yeah why would you
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look like you're in second grade i mean your frame is kind like just
You could adjust the frame
adjust that
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they wanted me to in home improvement i have a fake plant
yeah Dana is killing
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it
they thought that this look would be better than what you have so I did it
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you know when I went on your podcast This Will Trend I hadn't really kind of been on a podcast and I didn't really
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know what they were or what they were about
and I met you a few times in the
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clubs and then you had said you're just having a bad day you're kind of depressed
and when you did my podcast
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Yeah you said you felt like at the dental office you're wearing that thing but it was very interesting we Yeah and
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I uh that was one of my first kind of regular podcasts
that's funny that's
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what you remember what I remember was that you were such a big get slippery
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Spade keeps ducking me
but we got Dana and I was really excited and I was kind
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of like you know our podcast is long a typical episode is two uh two hours
in a
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very small room in those days it's a very small tight room with the the button pusher person right there
that's
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exactly right we're in a different studio now but I was like Dana's probably I not in a big time way but
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like just like a this is a guy he's got a life he's got a career he's got less to prove he's probably going to want to
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do an hour and get out of there not only did you do over two hours you didn't want to leave and I really respected it
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like a standup on stage you wanted to end on a really big laugh and I was like
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"Oh my god it really just how we are you know
even if it takes another hour 30."
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He kept looking for that needle in the haystack and and
you looked at me and
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you went "Is that is that enough?" Like you didn't know like probably he probably thought I don't
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know what I'm doing here i think it it might have been Tina Fey or was it Steve Martin that just said like going on talk
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shows you you have to always be great you can't be mediocre even one second
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and you still have that mindset it's kind of a lot of pressure like okay how will I be the greatest guest that Pete's
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ever had you know
and it's uh you know
I was touched I was touched that for all
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your success that you still had that mentality touch that it was generous to
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the audience but also it made me feel less alone because I will do a podcast
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it's one of my favorite things to do actually is I'll do a smaller podcast right like I I think it's kind of nice
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it's low pressure but when I go on I'm trying to be a great guest there's no
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like math right
like this doesn't matter you're like this is all we're doing everything's an audition someone only
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heard Dana in their life on your podcast and they're like "This is my decision on Dana Carvey if he's funny or not." And
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that's the hard part people go "Oh I thought you know if they're fans they go I know you all the way back to
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grown-ups." And I'm like "Grownups nothing before that?" They go "Did you do anything before Grown-Ups?" I go "No
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it doesn't matter because all you have to do is get them once." Because I was thinking people I like if they get me in
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a movie you know what I mean the Well every obviously Chvy Chase had done some big ones a bunch but if you're just in
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an old movie and I like it I'm in for life i'm like I like that person i like that person
yeah yeah yeah yeah we just
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We were in the car we're in Irvine my family came with me and my daughter was
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watching Hotel Transennsylvania 2 so I heard your voice this morning Spade
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that's a cute one for kids i think
it's very cute but it's also I'm not just saying this it's really funny you got a
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huge laugh from us you're talking about your invisible girlfriend who's from Canada and you do this uh and we all
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know what it's like being in a I don't know if you did an ensemble i'm guessing you didn't do it in an ensemble so
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you're alone
and you had to nail this line like they're like "Oh this is your invisible girlfriend." Oh right is she
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the one from Canada and you say like "Uh quiet guys the the wedding's about to start." But you said it
in a way that me
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my wife and my daughter we all laughed and I was like that I'm not just buttering your bread i'm like that
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really is special and then Sandler as the vamp vampire in that movie
is is
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throwing the grown-up's bones it seems like every other line there's something that that the grown-ups get to laugh at
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so
we we we nudged her towards that movie but you were in my car this morning
thank you and uh you're like "Oh
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I got to do this thing today i forgot." But Irvine Improv is that where you're at
i am at the Irvine Improv yeah
it's
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It's great it's great
it's super fun and I confused it with the Brea improv i
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don't I don't know if you've ever walked into a club and you're you're walking through the kitchen
which it always
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feels like real show business to me from the back
and I'm looking for the green room and I I just couldn't I couldn't
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find it cuz I thought I was I don't know i just turned 46 i think it's like an
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airlock opened and all of these papers just flew out and I'm more confused than
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I've ever been
and then they were like "It's over here." And I went in the green room and I was like
because I was
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imagining the wrong one it was very disorienting to be like
"Yeah." And you're like "I don't even know where I am." You're like "Oh wait that means the
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stage is behind me oh wait where am I that's so weird i've done that it's so
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weird i picture a green room and I go wait I've not been to this club before i totally pictured I was just on the road
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i'm on the road too and that's probably why we do these now because I come back i don't do them on the road
it's too
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hard cuz I have either a camera i don't I can't understand how to plug in a computer so they go we got to wait
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honors members you got to pay for the I'm a red roof guy i just did the gigs with Dana where well I didn't tell Dana
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but it was a small town great theater where you see like eight people that day
00:14:08
and there's like a Hardies
and there's one Dairy Queen you go is there's no way anyone's coming to this show i don't see
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one person
and then they filled it up and you go "Oh they they show up." But my hotel had three strips of Kleenex for
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for curtains and there's like three feet in between each one and I'm like these are my blackout curtains from the
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website and then the air conditioner under this white where the vents are about 2 in wide they're like this
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yes
you know and you're all and then it and then it goes off then it comes on again you're like "Oh my god it's like a
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tornado in here."
Do you know you must know the life hack of the the hanger
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right you know the hanger life hack
is that for curtains
yeah for the curtains no
no uh let me see if I have one this
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is This is pretty bad
interesting let me see okay
i've heard you take a chip clip from potatoes potato chips
and
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squeeze them together Dana
yeah i don't travel with a chip clip cuz I'm not you know
okay so
I'm not I'm not eating so
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many chips that I need to keep fresh on the road yeah bert Chryser's uh act is
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the guy with a chip clip
and I love Bert this is what you use this is in the
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closet of every hotel the as you're mentioning the curtains will never close so you clip it you clip it together with
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this
oh you clip the hangers to you clip the curtains together
you clip the curtains together with the hair
oh you know what if girls have a banana clip in
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their hair that might work
and not all of us are traveling with supermodels and bags of cool ranch that we need to keep
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fresh for several days
listen if you have if you have a brick of gold
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you can lean it against the curtain you can also block the light from the people by stacking bricks
you stack them
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it's a hassle you got to take them all out of the suitcase
but you I like knowing where they are i like knowing
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where they are and I have the the private jet pilot bring them in he stacks them
he counts them
he moves them
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i go "Did anybody take one?" They go "We've been up here sir count them count them in front of me." And I'm like they're like this again
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[Music] no I uh uh I know that Pete I see it
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Pete at Largo a lot and um that's a fun place that's an appet
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from crashing on and uh
yes
tell us about crashing how it got going
well I mean
that was a big
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deal
it was a big deal i love telling that story and I love Jed i was going to
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say
yeah say it
one of the strangest things to come from Crashing is that like I would say Mike Periglia and Jud
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and Neil Brennan and Andrew Santino are the four people I talk to the most and the fact that one of those people
is Jud
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Appatile still blows me away like we call we talk about feelings what's going
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on in our lives there's no show business we're just friends and I I'm so honored
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to see the side of Jud that is just the New Balance Dadbod guy that's just kind
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of
completely you know I mean every once in a while he'll mention having dinner with Paul McCartney or something and
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you'll remember that he's Jed App but for the most part he he really is that dorky latch key t raised by television
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kid
loves it loves show business
loves show business loves comedy
tv yeah loves
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to laugh and also like doesn't talk [ __ ] like if you go like "Oh I saw the new
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season of uh" He's always like "I liked it i thought it all i thought I thought it was pretty good." You know Spade got
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a few laughs it's one of your things spade got a few laughs
it's one of my things that you're trashing that was all
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right
i just I didn't like it i didn't like it i thought I thought it was funny i thought
there's room for that show
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what What happened with um Crashing and I love telling the story because it's
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like an exercise in in gratitude so I was doing the Pete Holmes show which was a talk show that I did with Conan which
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was also that's a whole other story
and Jed did a sketch with us now that I know Jed I'm like Jed gets pitched this
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sketch three times a month it's like I'll pitch you bad movies
that's like the first idea you have but that's
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that's the kind of operation we were running
so we go in and I pitch him bad movies and if you watch the sketch it's
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on it's on YouTube i actually he starts improvising and then I start improvising back
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obviously and I pitch him crashing in that sketch as it show
cuz he keeps
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going "What's your real idea what's your real idea what's your real idea?" I'm like I remember I'm like "Oh it's a bear
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who's like the sidekick in a magic act and he learns magic from watching the magicians and he escapes and it's called
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Bear Jishin." That's like the joke like they keep pitching different animals learning magic from their their captors
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and then he goes and he seemed dead serious but the cameras are rolling he goes "What what's your real idea what's
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your real idea what what would what would you really want to do?" And I go "Well I was raised religious i married
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the first girl I ever dated the first girl I ever slept with we got married six years in she had an affair and I was
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sort of kicked into the deep end of standup comedy i sort of doubled down on my life as a comedian while I was also
00:19:31
trying to learn how to be a functional adult very Jad Appetile right like I'm going through my 20s and my 30s is
00:19:37
basically the show
and he's like in the sketch he goes "That's too sad that's
00:19:42
that's too sad nobody." He's joking but he goes "That's too sad nobody likes that that's that's pathetic
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i don't like it." And I'm like "Okay." So that that's like six months later the
00:19:53
Pete Holm show is cancelled and me and my producing partner Orin Brimmer we we
00:20:00
were like you know we're at our fighting weight we we were doing nine episodes of that show a week we were just like
00:20:06
tearing through jokes jokes jokes sketch sketch sketch we were like really strong so we're like let's go with this
00:20:11
momentum we know the show is cancelled but the show's going to air because we had all these episodes backlogged for
00:20:18
like two months beyond
being cancelled so we know it's canceled but the world doesn't know it's canceled so we're like
00:20:25
while it's still airing and we feel like we have some
still wipes yeah yeah yeah
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we're going to go out and we're going to try and pitch a sketch show uh cuz that
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was our favorite part of doing the Pete Home Show it was one of our favorite parts was the sketches so we go into
00:20:41
Comedy Central and we're like we're going to pitch them a sketch show and in the like you know that courtesy 30
00:20:48
minutes before the meeting where you're like chatting you know you have a Fiji and you're talking Kent Kent Alderman
00:20:55
who is the head of Comedy Central at the time
he's wonderful and and we're
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friends he says to me well one thing's for sure we're not looking for another [ __ ] sketch show and everyone laughs
00:21:08
and including us we're like imagine but we were there to pitch a sketch show so
00:21:15
we scramble and we go "Okay we just lied we said,"Oh we were just here you know
00:21:20
for a meeting a general meeting uh we don't have anything to pitch." And they're like "Oh that's a little weird
00:21:25
but okay
100% weird
that's strange that you all took an hour out of our day to
00:21:30
just say what's up."
I'm like "Okay we'll see you later."
And I remember this very very vividly and as I get
00:21:38
older and even more forgetful and more papers fly out of my airlock as I as I age this story will get even more
00:21:44
romantic and special but I went down into I had a little Volkswagen Golf at
00:21:50
the time and I sat in my car parked on the street in front of Comedy Central and I was like had one of those like I
00:21:57
guess you call like a come to Jesus moment i was like what am I doing like I don't know what I'm going to do i've had this job feel like I got this break but
00:22:04
I don't know what's next and that was scary and then just like a a high school guidance counselor I said 'Well what
00:22:11
would you do if you could do anything like that it's I I find that to be a helpful exercise here's a blank check
00:22:17
you can do anything you want what do you want to do i was like well I would want to do a show I'm just talking to myself
00:22:22
in my car like I'd want to do a show like Girls i really like the show Girls so I would want to do a show about my
00:22:28
life about getting into comedy with Jud Appattow on HBO that's that's what I thought but then I was like "But what is
00:22:36
the show?" And very very quickly obviously I just pitched it to Jud pretend style six months earlier but I
00:22:42
was like "Well it could be about a guy who married the first girl he was ever with who's religious who she has an
00:22:48
affair." And then in that moment of like pressure in the car I was like "Oh." And
00:22:54
every episode he can be crashing on the couch of a different comedian because I always wanted like an interesting engine
00:23:00
like it would be
hook yeah
yeah i was and and you guys know from selling a show whether or not you do the hook
00:23:06
doesn't really matter you need to show them that there is a hook you can abandon the hook but there should be a hook
mhm
so I was like this is great
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that was a Wednesday and I I was like you know writing it in my phone and stuff and I was like I knew
00:23:21
Jud's team from having done the Pete Home Show so I reached out to my manager and I was like can we can I get a a
00:23:28
meeting with Jud this is also this is that sort of naive mania it's the kind
00:23:34
of insanity you sort of need in show business but you can have too much of where I'm like I just came up with this
00:23:39
idea and I'm like I'm going to pitch it now like that's that's not really
gather the troops
exactly but that that is how
00:23:47
I am i tend to light up
really hot for things and I want to go go so it was Wednesday and they were like "Well he's
00:23:53
in New York and he's shooting Train Wreck and if you uh want you can go to
00:23:58
the set of Train Wreck at like 6:00 a.m he has 15 minutes for you."
Again this
00:24:05
is Wednesday and that was Friday and I was like "Yes I booked the flight
on Thursday."
It's a It's a classic
00:24:13
Hollywood cliche right
movie but go ahead
totally i got the United you know
00:24:18
I'm probably in like the exit row with a with a United napkin writing out what the show is
it was flight 93 though that
00:24:25
would be
I wasn't going to say that cuz it sort of derails the main narrative but
I know sorry go ahead
00:24:32
that's true
no no no but that is that is what happened but I'm just trying to keep it to one
it's a good hook though
00:24:39
takes a big turn down
so I'm writing out the idea i get in on Thursday jud by the
00:24:46
way does not know that I flew in um because he would have said "Don't fly
00:24:51
in." Nobody flies across the country for 15 minutes but I was like it was a
00:24:57
no-brainer i got up at like 5 i got a coffee
which is two your time
which is
00:25:02
too Thank you which is to my time went in there amy was there i know Amy a
00:25:08
little bit so I'm I'm feeling kind of comfortable vanessa Bayer
she's in there too
amy they're shooting they're
00:25:14
shooting Train Wreck
but she's not in this thing you're doing
no no no there
00:25:20
I'm on the set of Train Wreck we're in like the fake magazine but that's where I'm
You mean they've already started
00:25:26
their day i thought it was before their day starts so Amy's buzzing around you see everyone then you go I got a corner
00:25:32
jud without these people and I don't want them to hear the idea and go thumbs down
00:25:39
if you're asking me
honestly totally i mean who's more distracted than a
00:25:44
director on set before their shooting like it was kind of a bad
idea so he's
00:25:52
sitting at this table i sat down and like you know I I I felt okay i I I
00:26:00
talked to him for like 12 minutes about other stuff
and then then the last three
00:26:05
minutes I was like here's the show and what happened and to take some of the
00:26:11
onus off me like I don't really deserve full credit is he Jud was just getting
00:26:16
back into standup in New York and I'm pitching him a show about a guy getting
00:26:22
into standup in New York so the the stars aligning on that he was in
and the
00:26:28
the the sort of postcript to the story is he goes write it
he didn't say like let's do it you got a deal he was like
00:26:34
write it i'll take a look at it and I wrote the script in two days and sent it to him and and we were we were off i
00:26:41
think we pitched it like a couple weeks after it was crazy
is he have to pitch too hard or is HBO saying "What do you
00:26:49
want to do next Jud?" Like kind of Adam Netflix kind of thing
they they did have
00:26:55
a deal with Jud i think we pitched it to Amazon and they passed and then Jud told
00:27:00
me to stop being so philosophical which is a funny thing because in Jud's master
00:27:06
class he uses me as the example of how not to pitch a show
which I didn't know
00:27:13
until I was watching Jud's master class and he's like "One thing you want to do is don't do what Pete Hopes did don't do
00:27:20
what Pete did." He got all philosophical just tell him it's funny and I I'm that way i want to talk about the themes i
00:27:27
want to talk about the message i want to talk about the growth and the feelings jud was like just say it's funny you're
00:27:33
going to love it trust us
and I was like yeah that is how you would pitch it if you're Jud Appatile but I've never had
00:27:39
to pitch it that way but then HBO uh
who was it
it was Casey Bl and it was Amy
00:27:45
Gravit and um I think I'm forgetting one person but they were warm it was warm
00:27:51
but I I said way less i said way less
oh he judge should have taken over a little
00:27:56
bit huh he could have but he was trying to take over by like saying I mean it's like
00:28:02
Johnny Cash pitching an album you know what I mean and there's some sweaty guy next to him being like there's going to
00:28:08
be a G and a C and a D
you know what I mean like I wasn't chill i was
He's like
00:28:15
I'm talking less is kind of a hint for the feel of it like just get less is more
well you know those shows where
00:28:21
someone's like if I crumble my paper it means shut up like we should have had a symbol like that i don't know that dana should do that to
00:28:28
me oh yeah you guys are doing great i'm just laying back today i just had
00:28:33
surgery so
did you really
yeah that's all right
on what
uh a hernia kind of
00:28:40
thing
well I'm a little loopy
but um
I'm I'm See look i'm in Irvine you had a
00:28:47
hernia this is not our perfect day but we're making
I'm in great shape across you're doing great we love this you're
00:28:54
driving the diving because I said he is good at this and he's
funny about this
00:28:59
show we get 10 minutes of gold are you out of your mind i mean we're not we're not pulling teeth we get 20 minutes of
00:29:06
gold out of this [ __ ] today there you go i appreciate
already you know
well p podcasters are great i'm not
00:29:13
saying I'm great i'm saying it's always a day off when I have podcast that's why I said he will take our dumb show and
00:29:21
make it better because he's
people who do podcasts understand the form and are
00:29:26
good guests you know when I went on Smartless
and I saw the three of them you know on the thing I said "Okay I'm
00:29:33
just going to dot stick i'm just going to go full boore tell stories and make you laugh so I want you guys to have a
00:29:39
day off."
So that's lit and they kind of got it so that's all I did the whole time you know
that's what that's what
00:29:45
Conan said about Martin Short he goes "He's a day off." And I was like "Yep there are guys that come on and just and
00:29:51
deliver."
Well they do some homework on those shows and they get out there and just uh it help it helps um
it does
00:30:01
[Music] i'm not going to go over the fact that you're atheist which is maybe the
00:30:07
funniest word I've heard in a while that's funny i can tell where you're getting your research
no you don't
00:30:12
you'll never guess yes I do i know where you get your research yeah i think it's so funny
i wrote a book
00:30:20
about my spiritual journey and there's one chapter called the hertheist which
00:30:26
means when I was a fundamentalist Christian and I thought everyone I talked to was going to hell which is a
00:30:33
huge burden this is under reportported if you're loving person which a lot of people of
00:30:40
faith are it sucks to go around and be like "Wow David I I can't believe you're
00:30:46
going to hell." Like
seems like a great guy but uh I just figured it out you said the wrong thing and uh
it was it
00:30:55
made me sad all the time and all of my friends were atheists because all my
00:31:00
friends were comedians and I wrote this chapter about how confusing it was after my my first wife obviously left me that
00:31:08
was very challenging to my faith because honestly if I'm being real I thought God
00:31:13
was looking out for me like stuff like that doesn't happen to people who don't smoke or drink or swear i was very clean
00:31:20
on stage and and then this bad thing happened so I'm like questioning my faith
and all my friends are comedian
00:31:26
atheists and I noticed that uh my friends were all deeply moral good sweet
00:31:34
loving people and that's what that chapter is about i'm like why why like we were in a hotel and there was like an
00:31:42
unmanned convenience store you know those little convenience stores where you're supposed to charge to the room
i
00:31:48
was like if there's no God why don't I just take a Sprite like I don't understand like what is the point if
00:31:54
it's not for some sort of afterlife insurance you know and I remember my friends were like "It's for us if you
00:32:02
steal the guy or the woman working this shift might get in trouble you know what
00:32:07
I mean like she might be reprimanded she might lose her job you don't do it because in and of itself it's the good
00:32:14
and right thing to do
it's it's wrong and and and even better it's right to
00:32:19
not do it you know what I mean so I was like
it felt so pure and good it wasn't
00:32:24
to be rewarded or recognized or you know given an eternal massage on a cloud or
00:32:30
the harp it was for the here and now and for to take care to to remember that we belong to each other that that person
00:32:37
even though we don't know them we care about them and we care about them not being in trouble so I didn't obviously I
00:32:44
wasn't going to steal the spread it was just an example but then after I saw these beautiful atheists in my life I
00:32:50
briefly uh as like a thought experiment I was like I'm going to be an atheist and it was such a surprise that I liked
00:32:58
it i was like I enjoyed putting down all of these heavy
00:33:03
ideological bags that I had been carrying and I was just like this is it let's care about each other let's take
00:33:09
care of each other and there's nothing else going on here and I found that to be a nice break from thinking everyone I
00:33:16
mean think of all the millions and millions and millions of people throughout history that are just burning in hell putting that away made me go
00:33:23
"This isn't an atheist this is a hertheist i like this this is nice you die it's over where where were you you
00:33:30
said this on my podcast Danny you said "Where were you during the Renaissance?" That's where you go when you die it's
00:33:36
over i was like "This is a relief." As compared to the you know the eternal
00:33:41
judge Judy that's going to like tear you apart so I was briefly an atheist and I
00:33:47
called the chapter her atheist but it really was like a month
and then I took some mushrooms and then I I started
00:33:53
thinking about those things again you know do you think do you think Christians get a bad rap out there
i
00:33:59
think they're having a tough time because I read about things where people go after them more and more i read about
00:34:04
something in Africa i'm like "Wow I don't know." Because you just don't hear about it a lot but maybe you would know more
i I don't I I don't feel qualified
00:34:12
to um
Oh I am i'm I'm a podcaster i will say that you
00:34:21
know I I I no longer identify as a Christian it's very confusing because I I love Christ and I think that's that's
00:34:28
what it is man i think what what he was teaching is the truth um but where we fall away is I don't believe in what's
00:34:35
called atonement theory this is boring atonement theory is the idea that you both are very familiar with which is that Jesus died because you both are
00:34:42
wicked little children and you need to be like washed in blood or otherwise God is going to flick you into a furnace
00:34:48
that's where it loses me but if you look at the words of of Jesus he's that's not his message that's sort of added on
00:34:55
later that was a lot of theology for 30 seconds
i read on Jesus's Wikipedia
00:35:00
because I But I mean I I would say that like
00:35:08
I see it I see it a lot of a lot of different ways meaning a lot of my atheist friends come on my podcast and
00:35:16
we start talking and realize we don't believe in the same God if that makes sense like we're talking about an old
00:35:22
man in the sky with a beard like a lifeguard who's watching and blowing his whistle
00:35:28
basically a guy like a king with a surveillance system that's watching you do all your wicked things and can't wait
00:35:34
to torture you
i'm like I also don't believe in that god and and when you broaden it out to have a conversation
00:35:40
about consciousness or awareness or being itself the atheists the Christians we all can kind of like come into this
00:35:47
middle where we all agree and I'm very interested in that space h
okay
you guys didn't do ketamine
00:35:55
before the talk
no we already cut that part out um this we while we were I was texting
00:36:02
everyone going this part we got to lose it no I'm kidding i like I started it no
00:36:07
I like hearing about it because we talk about different things and it's very interesting to me
to hear that and also
00:36:14
that's such a part of you
that listen we can go back to talk about 7-Eleven and
00:36:19
stuff like my act but uh sometimes you have to talk about real things it's
00:36:24
interesting
well you know what's funny is it's it's we're not actually talking about something that's exotic or or
00:36:30
mysterious every every person listening you me David Dana we're all having the
00:36:38
experience of being aware and that's the mystery even science agrees that's called the hard question of
00:36:43
consciousness we don't know it's funny science looks into microscopes and looks at stuff but we don't know what is
00:36:50
looking into the microscope it's really kind of funny if you think about it like we're we're acquiring all this data but
00:36:56
that which knows the findings is itself a mystery and that to me is why I don't
00:37:03
walk away from metaphor and interesting spiritual texts because we're talking about something that's very difficult to talk about but it's what's looking out
00:37:10
all of our eyes right now it's not it's not in India it's not at the top of a mountain it's not buried at the bottom
00:37:16
of the sea it's what you're experiencing right now it's it couldn't be more familiar to you
00:37:22
i was around a really sweet dog this past weekend and I you know it doesn't
00:37:28
have any of that higher consciousness so it's very pure very eager very happy
00:37:34
completely in the moment and uh it was kind of nice and there's a there was a real estate agent I met recently in the
00:37:41
last year or so and he doesn't watch any of the news anything he goes "I want to be like a dog i want to just be in the
00:37:49
moment happy but humans our brains go crazy and I just feel the whole thing's
00:37:55
a mystery
and it's so elusive." And uh we'll find out one day exactly what's
00:38:01
what happened if not you know
yeah yeah yeah you know what is really helpful to me and is a little less sort of high
00:38:08
flutin is I say yes thank you all day long especially when something isn't
00:38:14
going my way i like to use the example of a delayed flight or something and you're having all these feelings the dog
00:38:22
one of the things that makes a dog so beautiful is it's not really resisting its experience you know what I mean it's
00:38:27
just there for it so it's not just present when everything's good it's it's it's there
david what's your riff David
00:38:34
no I agree i think uh No dogs are funny i have a chunk
now uh
00:38:40
thanks for the setup
you do have a dog chunk in your special right
i do i do
00:38:47
i scare you
i can't believe it a dog chunk
of course i like this angle of
00:38:52
dogs it's like when you see kids there's something magical about kids that are really little because there's no weight
00:38:58
of the world they're literally minute to minute just trying to find the fun and everything and couldn't give a [ __ ] and
00:39:04
then the older you get the more it's piled on it feels like you know too much almost you're like uh too much too much
00:39:10
info too much data add in social media add in the news and everyone kind of
00:39:16
tilting it a little more doomsday some of the things don't come true that you're being warned about all the time
00:39:21
just like [ __ ] it's just a heavy heavy life and you try to go through going try to be a good person just a couple basic
00:39:28
things try to not make everyone's life harder try not
00:39:34
just like when I see people out there if I used to be a bus boy like Dana if you
00:39:40
when I'm at a restaurant you're just trying not to make their life harder that I didn't want anyone to be kissing my ass or going overboard just don't
00:39:47
make my job any harder just be a normal person
and go
hi hi whatever you don't
00:39:53
even need to say thanks just But when I'm there I try to in in real life situations you try to go okay let's not
00:40:00
make everyone's life a [ __ ] pain in the ass everyone's just barely hanging on
i agree i agree with that we're
00:40:06
barely everybody is alone you know we're not interconnected in a way that maybe
00:40:12
we will be in some other dimension but you know how do you not have empathy for people um because you know
some don't
00:40:21
and that's
it's hard just being alive yeah just to get dayto-day even if things go good you're like if you have
00:40:27
problems people think of like their five biggest problems and then someone takes money away usually number one money away
00:40:34
and they all just slide down you go oh wait that rich guy
isn't that happy and
00:40:39
you go yeah you took money away but now the other one slid down now number one is this or health or something i've noticed a lot of very wealthy people
00:40:45
start getting really anxious about recycling and that sounds like a bit but like you'll never meet more ardent
00:40:53
recyclers than the very the uber wealthy and it's because exactly what you're saying i'm not worried about money
00:40:59
anymore i will now worry about whether or not that coffee cup is plastic coated and if it needs to go in this trash or
00:41:04
that trash which
whatever your next problem is kicks down to number one and then you go oh so that one's you as a
00:41:11
human you almost need something to think about or to fix or to go I need this to be better and then make my life better
00:41:17
or make someone else you know whatever well that's what they call in the in the spiritual traditions they call that the
00:41:23
monkey mind right and what what you're saying is actually quite profound is you'll never not have things to worry
00:41:30
about there you're a human being
yeah you find them
and even when you know the
00:41:36
three of us have been very fortunate to have some really great peak experiences in our lives and and and hopefully more
00:41:42
to come but like we know that even those flare up and then go away it's a little
00:41:48
bit like being a gambling addict get the big win and sometimes I'll get an email of an offer of something that if it had
00:41:55
come in when when I was 23 I would have thrown a parade you know what I mean and
00:42:00
now I'm like ah it's in May you know what I mean like
00:42:05
so again not to I guess one of the reasons I'm interested in spirituality is it's like if we can get all those
00:42:11
things to settle down like all of those things are coming and going your your happy moments and your
00:42:19
sad moments your your anxiety but there's something that was consistent like your experience has been consistent
00:42:25
there's always been a sense of being myself and when you look at what you essentially are meaning those things
00:42:32
that come and go can't be essentially who you are so what was there the whole time your being and then when you look
00:42:38
at the quality of your being you see that it itself is peaceful and happy that's better than what I was going to
00:42:43
say i was going to say um that sometimes you go if I do this thing oh when I host
00:42:50
Saturday Night Live next week that's going to be really fun and then you start to say when I'm driving to get gas
00:42:56
I go this is actually the real life so you keep thinking of something else but you're like this is 99% of my day just
00:43:03
doing normal things so
Mhm
this is the part
everybody's just
being happy in you
00:43:08
just go I just want to be okay right now because this is really the life part then the minutia little things
am I
00:43:15
content here because
of course there's peaks
well yeah well you know Ramdas
00:43:21
talked about this right you eat ice cream so you're hosting SNL next week which is awesome that's an ice cream cone but the human temperament is okay
00:43:29
I've had ice cream now I want some water you know and now I want a nap and now I'm bored and I want TV and now I'm
00:43:36
tired and I want to sleep and now I'm awake and I want coffee this is your life so you're absolutely right we need
00:43:41
to like
slow down and drop into our lives and en Yes it's like
when David
00:43:49
does SNL and now you're like well what are people going to say about it instead of being mad at that you can go just
00:43:54
like the dog the dog is unfolding lawfully and being a dog perfectly david
00:44:00
you're going to be David perfectly you can allow that and even you know forgive that be like this is just what it is but
00:44:08
if we can find little moments of quiet even as we're talking right now if you can just kind of find a stillness behind
00:44:14
the conversation and go "Oh that's the place where it's enough." That it doesn't matter how it goes
I'm sure
00:44:21
it'll be fantastic day to day is just like this is your real life this is the part where you go after that's done i'm
00:44:28
right back here and this is it's not so bad so
well you don't want to postpone your happiness i don't want to go I'll
00:44:33
be happy
that's kind of what I'm saying yeah yeah
yeah if I nail this podcast then I can feel good about myself i'll
00:44:38
get a certain exhilaration from doing this show with you guys but that that's it's a fool's errand to keep going oh
00:44:45
and then I'll kill it at Irvine and then I'll kill it tomorrow morning with my coffee like try to just say yes to what
00:44:51
is that that's a big that's a big one for me
and even that you botched this podcast you still you're
00:44:57
Well that's the trap right if I say I'll be happy that I did well I have to be
00:45:02
unhappy that I botched it
that's that's just a dumb scale to put your your
00:45:08
worthiness on i think uh helping other people is a kind of nice way to get out of your own
00:45:15
head
yeah for sure
whether it's your wife your child or you know just or the club owner can you do five more minutes
00:45:22
or any little thing that you're focused on helping somebody um it's I think it's
00:45:30
really useful
i agree
want to do it anyway you know
totally the best shows I
00:45:36
was going to say are the ones where I remember
where I just take a little moment to think about everything they
00:45:41
had to do to get there and and and like you said David the five big problems that they have these everybody here has
00:45:47
those five slots filled mhm and then when you see
they're never empty really
00:45:52
they're never empty yeah you're right one goes out number six drops down okay now I'm in line now I'm in the top five
00:45:58
and then one of the great things about laughing and laughing together something
00:46:04
you know there's something magical about releasing that
tension and there's a way you can release it with other people
00:46:10
around you that you can't do it you know that's what sort of makes our phones so
00:46:15
in a way awful is that you're it's a methodone it's it's like a synthetic
00:46:21
lonely version of something that I think is much better when we're you know touching elbows with strangers yeah for
00:46:28
sure
yeah letting it out
i mean the flip side to careerism is just sort of you know later on as I was going down this
00:46:35
journey of being a stand-up or a comedian people would come up and say to me "Oh I really needed that." you know
00:46:41
and I didn't quite appreciate it as much till later on that's really what we're
00:46:46
doing here
uh even right now we're just trying to make life a little eater easier a little lighter for everybody
00:46:53
and I do think when a peer group takes one of your bits either of you and you
00:47:00
understand that that's a touchstone for them that they'll quote you and that's that's like a communication device for
00:47:06
peer groups that is the most flattering thing me and my friends do this once a month or whatever those kind of
00:47:13
compliments you're like "Oh that's that's really cool because that's what I had with Monty Python
you know with
00:47:19
friends."
So fun the first time Dana the first time I did standup I was I think I was 20 or 21 and
00:47:27
I rented out a little restaurant again one of those things I didn't know any better so I just was like I've never done standup i'm going to do 45 minutes
00:47:34
of standup i'm just going to do it
first and and first time and even worse I'm
00:47:40
going to invite everyone I know to come and watch like just a nightmare i wouldn't do that
today my parents are
00:47:47
there we're filming it so I could give it to clubs but the reason I mention it it went fine actually it went well they
00:47:55
were so supportive i know i know i should have bombed all my friends just not laughing but they
00:48:00
were so supportive they gave me a standing ovation which isn't because I was so excellent it's because they
00:48:06
really were trying to like go go go yeah help they were trying to help
and they
00:48:12
did
nice
but the first time I did stand up Dana I one of the laughs I got was I said "Not going to do it." I said it
in
00:48:20
my set obviously was unplanned but I was like "Yep that's not happening not going
00:48:25
to do it." And it gets this big laugh and I was like "Whoops that's not mine." Uh that that counts as your laugh
00:48:32
anybody can have that
well I know but it's not that I stole it but it didn't feel as good as writing something for
00:48:38
myself but you were in my very very first uh standup set ever isn't that
00:48:44
wild
flattering yeah yeah that's that is uh Yeah inexplicable you know bits uh
00:48:51
not just for myself for you guys are nonsensical they're not really one and one is two they're they're sort of off
00:48:57
offkilter
like a lot of a lot of David's throwaways and little things uh they
00:49:02
last longer in a weird way the quirky you because you can't ever it's like
00:49:07
trying to catch the wind you know
yeah one
unscripted lines and movies are sort of remember from Catty Shack or old
00:49:14
movies
well David you were in the sketch it's it's Farley's line but my wife and I say "Lay off me i'm starving." Maybe
00:49:21
every day it's the main thing we say to one another cuz like
we're just constant
00:49:28
we're like food people and we're just eating and someone's like you're really going to have all that or just lay off
00:49:34
me
that I think that is the ultimate I'm agreeing with you guys that's the ultimate compliment is if your comedy
00:49:41
can somehow be infused and incorporated and it goes back to what you were saying into daily life not just into something
00:49:48
you do sometimes don't know what it is and you do
sketch in a room there with
00:49:53
people and they go okay commercial go and they push this gap girl sketch out and you're going and years later you're
00:49:59
saying that a line that just was passing in the sketch is
it's like mindboggling
00:50:07
[Music] I don't think and I love that sketch I could totally see you guys being like
00:50:15
why would this one be a sensation you know what I It was Farley which is a trick so if you have Farley and he's in
00:50:22
a wig and he's drops his voice from a female and chokes me um and it's about
00:50:29
French fries it's just funny
and you have Sandler in a wig too which is funny going you guys yeah and uh and then but
00:50:37
if it gets a laugh in there you're just relieved that it worked and now they're going to Weekend Update everyone's
00:50:42
running and changing and so then you things get picked out of shows like Dana knows you don't know what they like you
00:50:49
don't know what a movie
look and history remembers the winners or whatever i'm like I could so and I mean this as a
00:50:56
compliment that sketch could not have worked it might not have worked and we just never know like you still don't
00:51:03
rehearsal you hit it wrong rehearsal you get it barely right and you hit it right on air which is not always the case you
00:51:08
do better in dress and on air you just go "God can I just walk in one more time because I just didn't it didn't come off
00:51:13
in the right energy it just
and you go nope that's it we're doing it." And then you go "That was an okay sketch." And
00:51:18
you go "God the one that everyone would have loved was 2 hours ago but you nailed it perfectly."
So that's just
00:51:24
that's that's part of the fun crap shoot of SNL but we know in movies in life you just throw away joke weird things that
00:51:30
happen
pluck them out of the atmosphere yeah
it's endless it It is great that
00:51:36
we'll never solve comedy you know it's always humbling i thought that would kill it bombed and this this worked or
00:51:42
whatever it's always full of surprises um so but you're on tour
00:51:48
a mini tour kind of
and it was going to be called the PG-13 tour and then you
00:51:54
switched the name out
yes uh which was actually you know that's sort of a
00:52:00
layover a carryover from my youth and my religious days and and this this sort of
00:52:07
tender
I don't want to say pathetic but like it's sweet i'm like "Oh maybe I
00:52:12
could do a tour that my parents would like." You know what I mean i'm like "Wouldn't it be fun i'll do it it's
00:52:18
called the PG-13 tour." And the hour that I was writing was just kind of coming together less dirty than the
00:52:23
other ones and it still is uh not filthy but then I did it one time in Austin and
00:52:32
I was like "This is it felt like doing it underwater or something i hate the
00:52:39
feeling." We're talking about how precious laughter is i hate the feeling of knowing I could put on these brass
00:52:46
knuckles and really smack them in the face but instead I'm going to like hold back to like stay in a box that I
00:52:55
created they didn't even ask me to do it so I was like "We're not we're not doing I did it one time and I was like I'm
00:53:01
never doing that again." Some some people like
like Nate Bargatsi who's a favorite of mine he just is that guy
00:53:09
yeah and I saw him say when he gets cut off in traffic he's like "Golly." You
00:53:14
know when people cut me off in traffic I say the worst things you've ever heard in your life
and that's me i want to be
00:53:24
me i want to hit as hard as I can i don't want to get off stage like you on my podcast Dana i want to leave it all
00:53:31
and I'm constantly taking the temperature of the audience do you want it to be a little more wicked do you
00:53:37
want it to be a little bit sillier do you want me to be louder do you want I'll do it any whatever but I can't go
00:53:43
well I can't say [ __ ] because I called this tour that so stupid
stand up's also
00:53:50
so hard you can maybe do that clean set 7:30 on a Thursday but then it's like
00:53:55
late show Friday sometimes you need to be like "Come on guys wake the [ __ ] up." Like you need
like a teacher
[ __ ]
00:54:03
shut up like you need that sometime
and it's not filthy it's just you weave it into your act where no one walks away
00:54:08
going "That was a dirty act." But you just kind of weave it into jokes where they don't even notice it it's just funny
i I get that all the time people
00:54:15
are like "I like that you're a clean comic." And I'm like "I'm not a clean comic."
Not really
but they think you are and that's why I think the metric is
00:54:22
wrong we think clean comedy is comedy where you don't say [ __ ] [ __ ] piss c
00:54:28
whatever and dirty comedy is where you do and I'm like "No I've seen comedy
00:54:34
that passes that test of cleanliness that is deeply flawed and ugly like
00:54:39
meanspirited and the message underneath it." And I'll defend their right to say that but it's just not for me i'm like
00:54:45
"Wow
that is a really toxic message." Yeah yeah
and then I get up and I'm
00:54:51
being a silly floppy dumb golden retriever boy just trying to delight
00:54:56
everybody and yes I sometimes say uh swears and sometimes I talk about sex or whatever it might be but the intent
00:55:04
really matters to me and and and I think you can feel that because I've seen some really filthy comedy that was squeaky
00:55:11
clean if that makes sense
sure
and I've seen filthy comedy that I would call clean
i think main thing is not to not
00:55:19
to lean on it you know like you could you don't need to be blue all the time or not blue all the time you know it's
00:55:25
just you just weave it in it's not one one or the other
well it's a seasoning yeah it's a seasoning i'm not like
Don't
00:55:32
abuse it yeah well go see Pete Holmes on the road this guy
00:55:39
Thanks for hanging with us
wait what was your last statement sorry
i just I just want it was the last thing on the
00:55:44
cleanliness and thank you for the plug seinfeld was like
uh swearing is like
00:55:50
steroids it's like cheating i love Seinfeld because I think Seinfeld really is that guy but he goes like "Swearing
00:55:56
is like steroids." And I'm like "Yeah." And I want to hit a lot of home runs like give me the steroids like I will do
00:56:04
anything to delight the audience until they're red in the face and forgetting
00:56:09
those five problems including I don't mean cheat other human beings but I will cheat i will swear i will spit i will
00:56:16
cuss i'll do whatever it takes because life is hard life is lonely life is
00:56:22
painful and we need this this release we need this art form so yeah it's steroids
00:56:27
and I I'm Barry Bonds man
i'm glad we we did that
well I wouldn't want to follow
00:56:32
you i don't know if I followed you once or you followed me but yeah it was it was lonely uh you are you're very very
00:56:39
powerful in a very funny funny way
i've seen him kill i've seen him kill
you
00:56:44
have a lot of weapons and a lot of things you're doing that's very powerful i just want comedians to be who they are
00:56:50
that that's really all it is
that's it sorry David you wanted to wrap it up go ahead
well we actually have a call that
00:56:56
we have to make i don't know what you know about podcasting or something just
00:57:02
Okay
and Dane is falling apart obviously I I'm at 2% but I feel pretty good
i I
00:57:08
enjoyed this podcast i enjoyed it
i do it was a great You're a a good dude i
00:57:14
will see you tomorrow
i hope so thank you both
all right Dana don't hang up right away
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