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Neal Brennan | Full Episode | Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade

May 29, 2024 / 01:12:44

This episode features comedian Neil Brennan discussing mental health, his Netflix special, and experiences with psychedelics. Topics include depression, gratitude practices, and the comedy industry.

Neil Brennan, known for co-creating the Chappelle Show, shares how he has dealt with depression and found relief through psychedelics like iasa and MDMA. He talks about his journey from being on anti-depressants to discovering new methods for mental wellness.

The conversation touches on the challenges of performing stand-up, particularly during special recordings, and the pressure comedians face to deliver their best work. Brennan reflects on the evolution of his comedy style and the importance of being open and authentic.

Additionally, Brennan and hosts Dana Carvey and David Spade discuss the dynamics of writing for shows like SNL and the creative process behind sketch comedy. They share anecdotes from their careers and the impact of their experiences on their current work.

Throughout the episode, Brennan emphasizes the significance of gratitude and self-reflection in achieving personal happiness and success in the competitive world of comedy.

TL;DR

Neil Brennan discusses mental health, psychedelics, and the comedy industry with Dana Carvey and David Spade.

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well we got Neil Brennan today Dana and uh before we start I wanted to say our YouTube for Superfly got to uh 100,000
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subscribers that's nice applause applause wow here we go and a lot of nice comments people are seeing the clips and
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they go over to watch it on YouTube which is nice you know we we have a known big fan of H Superfly who's that
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Joe bton yeah it's good stuff it's the fly is it's like a fly but Superfly away
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because the David P Dan Can't Believe It's Not Butter oh
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that's nice that he said that yeah um and we got Neil Brennan today uh on on
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flying the wall and um Neil's an old buddy well spoken standup has a special
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out right now he's had him out before uh a lot of fun to talk to and a very sharp
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mind yeah very uh thoughtful person about The Human Experience he has a
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podcast called blocks we can promote that his podcast is about people who have mental health uh things they may
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not be aware of he has comedians on and talks to stuff so he's very interesting to talk to just about life in general uh
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very bright guy and has a new Netflix special he's got a new Netflix special out right now he'll tell you all about
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it and uh I have a blast talking to him I live near him so I see him out but
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he's you know part of the Chappelle situation the Chappelle show co-created that he's gone on to do a lot of things he
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writes for a lot of people so he kind of knows everybody I think it's because he is so uh open you know about uh what
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he's thinking or what he's feeling and for this particular episode he'll talk about how he dealt with his depression
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and how it got lifted with different uh a method that you will find very very
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interesting that's made him a much more content person I'm pretty tight about my craziness so uh I'm I haven't been on
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blocks but uh I will one day unveil my craziness to um I'm doing a side podcast just
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called blocks and it's literal blocks that you play with on the floor so it's me with Lego I can do that and a guest
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the guest and I just build a little Lego village as we chat well that's nice um
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well uh until that airs here's Neil Brennan with uh fly on the wall let's
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talk
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I got carded legally by a English-speaking person wearing a
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baseball cap at age 53 what what no do we brag about the
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last time we got carded is that is this a segment on we do this with that you have blocks you have your thing this is
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our thing last time I got carded in Thailand trying to buy a lady boy when I
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was I'm kidding not old so Neil we're just guys hold on let me switch headphones
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yeah have we ever run into each other are we meeting right now no we we have run into each other just really quick
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John loveit's comedy club in the Universal City yeah oh yeah yes and
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that's what I thought and so I hope there I hope there's not another one is there another one the CH it didn't turn
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into a chain as quickly as we thought I don't want to uh John is a friend but you know as a comedian you're kind of
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like oh you got to it's a universal studio so you park in Jurassic Park you
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got to walk a quarter mile you go in it's built for blues that there's a three- tier thing so people on the top
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level are looking down at the top of your head and talking amongst themselves and the stage is really
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high um so and there's a lot of surfboards right because love it's love
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surfing that was his theme maybe it was left over from BB King but but yeah John
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B King another B be king another Avid server he was getting out every morning at 5 remarkably very funny very funny
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had good patter between like a yeah really good patter and would remember
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like narratives between he'd come back up and be like how's your date going he knew you know what I mean he did crowd
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stuff yeah knew how to do it uh wait let's keep talking about the universal
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gangle 18 theaters I used to go to those theaters you know because and also if
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you did the uh John LoveIt Comedy Club you when you after you'd walk through or Swim through the Jaws theme to get there
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you could get 10% off at Tony Romas across the street yeah you absolutely could absolutely could your primary
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audience that was available with North Hollywood gangs that would just kind of infiltrate them all that was the
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audience you're were drawing from other than that it had good sound John was very nice they had good snacks trying to
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think of something and they love they let be like hey G what's up G it's hey you are G
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right baby you know what this is baby this is G yeah g I know act like G for a
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minute that's the thing and it's a good problem to have but if I try to do standup in a traditional setting say I
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could feel the audience it I guess the the only thing worse than not having hits is having
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hits I don't know what the word is but they want me to do the characters they saw in SNL so to Our Guest today Neil
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Brennan do you feel like do you have Classic Bits that people yell out for at
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this point I three likes do it do it no I know but no what's funny is I so I on
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the on the newest the tour for the one that's out for crazy good the new
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Netflix that we're all talking talk is that true you saw it great oh
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yeah I wouldn't have yeah great great great speci thank you we're gonna talk
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about yeah no yes well you did some stuff I haven't seen before we'll talk about that later I thought was so we're
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we're uh I'm assuming this will be in the podcast we're we're all we're three guys all of it
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on the good the parts where you guys shine fantastic um the uh the so I go I
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do a show this basically the this the ACT that's on Netflix and uh a guy DMS
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me afterward and is like dude it was my birthday I paid 150 bucks for T whatever
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whatever I kept waiting for you to show up basically he was upset that I wasn't
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sadder he wanted me to be sad like I'd been in uh three mics and blocks and
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most of my life uh and I wasn't sad enough I'm sad that you're not sad no I
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know it's a part is missing we're I want fix things I want to go
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back and watch just stylistically or your the way your shoulders are just your physicality uh it felt like it was
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Neil but you say up front I feel good it's almost like I
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can't so I could do two hours on this uh I know you are very aware of you know
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psychology and emotion so for our audience who doesn't know you've famously been dealing with depression
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and having this really but having this extremely successful career in comedy
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and standup so that's kind of almost illogical in a way but no one
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understands that somehow that take you you made it through that but then something happened I've only read your
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Wikipedia page so tell how did you get less sad or kind of happy I got less sad
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in a very uh sort of risky way which is
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uh which is iasa DMT and
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MDMA um most the alphabet yes thank you
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um and uh the I got into iasa because
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our mutual friend Chris Rock uh sent me an article from The New York Times about iasa and was like we
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got to do this which is you know you're old you know you're old when you get your drug ideas from The New York
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Times drug idea where Rock's like we got to do this did Rock do it
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too yeah I didn't know oh that explains a lot no I wouldn't think that rock
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would do that that doesn't seem like but he's very openminded to a lot of stuff no he's talked about it in public I mean
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he talked about it on like James Cordon I know he talked about it a few times but uh but yeah he we did it together
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and it was pretty we did it together twice and uh it was pretty wild I know
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he likes diarrhea no he loves diarrhea and loves puking but uh and it's sort of
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he both his clothes are he calls them and so he so yeah so we did it together
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twice and and I kept doing it uh but he he's only I I don't I don't know if he's
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done it recently but did you like Ron White did you guys go to a place or just
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do it we didn't yeah Ron White went to a place we me and rock did it Spade we
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actually did it maybe a year old remember when Rock was renting a place in
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Malibu like two years ago or during Co I think it might have been year old place
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Spade that you sh you shared with litz in Ted Sanda spot no that was litz live right next
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to geret oh LoveIt and gervitz yeah they live next to I don't know but that was
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the same Beach go ahead I just want to know set the scene when you set the scene hey Chris are you walk he walks
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into the place or what I want to hear I mean now it feels now I feel like I'm
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telling his all right so personal no no I don't it's his I don't get he's talking about enough that it's not not
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it's not elicit it's in the EAS just tell yours like what is it you go in there and you have a helper or it was a
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guy we I got a private I got a guy came uh and and he was like a white guy
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and rock was like little starbuy um it was you know because you he's still funny until this yeah no
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you're still yeah you're still it wasn't we hadn't even done it yet so then the me rock and then a few friends maybe
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three or four friends of mine did it in the place Rock was renting and it took maybe four or five
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hours and and it was like it was just a very strong have you got done
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mushrooms I have done mushrooms but not in only in my 20s yeah it was like it's
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like mushroom I remember comparing it to mushrooms and at one point being like wow like this is like uh mushrooms times
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like a 100 in terms of intensity in terms of like what it could do so so and then we did it again at another place
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that was more we it was still in LA but we did it it was like me and rock and
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25 white like crunchy white people crunchy white people now you've got this
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Rock's neck special crunchy white people yeah it was like very crunchy white
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people and uh that was and and I would I would say that you would have to ask him
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about it but I will say I saw Rock get his ass whooped by by the by the iasa in
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a good way he got got like it was wild
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the SEC second time yeah the second time and I have a question like 15 times
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since I did mushrooms uh Dane did I did uh acid once
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this a while back this is last Friday I did um acid when I was probably what you
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know late teens and I did mushrooms back then it was the kind you know you get in a baggie you buy from whoever and then you
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just eat the stems and you think they're not working and then you start sort of hallucinating and so I was okay with
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that but I had to be with other shroomers my friends because we were walking on the beach to a party and when
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we were around people that weren't on it we could not really at all we ran back to each other so my experience was I
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don't do them later in life cuz I get scared of getting out of control like back then I had nothing to live for I had nothing going on I who it was just
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like drug drug drug me up just for fun I think I'd be scared now is the point I
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think I'd be scared to get like out of my head a bit and be around people even
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though you're friends that would help but I don't know it would be a little scary for me yeah were you was it scary
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at all were you nervous uh little bit I don't well the thing of it is I don't do it's like once you take it out of like a
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party setting it can be just different it it'll just be like a different it becomes like at you know not to be
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pretentious but like it just becomes more like ceremonial or something so I
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did I but I've done I used to do as you're telling me this I remember I did mushrooms with Norm
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Saget Brewer and Chappelle one time I like forgot about it until you were just
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talking like group it actually it was we were at like the mandre at the Sky Bar it was like
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probably 1999 or something and it was just too but it was too like too much energy um so yeah so if you're
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GNA yeah try to do it like uh away from people and what do it get you after so
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you come out of it you go I it it it like resets your it it
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affects your neurons like there's a thing called neuroplasticity Etc MH and
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uh it iasa in particular grows new neurons it's the only substance on Earth
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that can do it that they found dead you will grow new neurons so so you grow new ones and it's
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like it changes your brain kind of but having said that it's it's can also be like very uh I've seen people get
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possessed I've seen wild stuff so did you get a what are you eating sorry is
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it like a P or is it vegetables or what do you uh it's actually a tea it's a tea tea okay it tastes like uh tastes like
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uh uh espresso and are you getting uh do you feel nauseous in the beginning kind of
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like mushrooms did or I've only gotten you get a little nauseous I will say
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rock generally has puked both times uh I uh I haven't I puked I'm not embarrassed
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I drank too much so what Neil um so what good for me yeah puked um so
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so uh so so yeah so it's it's a little it's a little crazy but um it's it was
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effective for me but I can't say like do it everybody it's like Can it can go a
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lot of different ways I did it a lot in 2020 and 2021 and this past year I've
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done MDMA four or five times and that's been helpful in a different way
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how why is it different which ones for which uh MDMA is Molly X you ever do
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that Dana no all right um I feel like a bully you ever do it uh and nerd yeah uh
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that I just it's like that's changed me also it's you know what I'm gonna be honest it's opened my heart a little bit
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guys okay I I a good reason good place to be rather than hardened cynical and
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being organically empathetic to people and wanting to
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which I I think Dana you are generally uh you seem very empath you've always struck me as very
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empathetic um I don't know my wife and I saw across at our breakfast table took a
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test personality test 10 different types okay blink just do the question and then
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what would you come out as helper would you come out as helper it can be toxic
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and the extreme but yeah my wife and are very much like after you after you uh
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people ask me how did you did you let people how did you navigate The Game of Thrones of Saturday Night Live you know
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because wouldn't you like hey you can do that part you can but it's not to that level I also have a really a competitive
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streak um but I'm working on that you know so the the late great Warren Thomas
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told me a story about you in the 90s uh and he said that you one time Dana
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one time said that he wants the audience to die from laughing at him you want to
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kill so hard people die well I would say to people that I was in that scene in
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the late 70s early 80s and Rob Williams was there briefly and then gone and then he would come back as a you know a star
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Mor and Mindy and he he would create a small seismic event and I just I was
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naive I just thought I guess that's where you want to try to get to that if you can the most impossible what do you
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think the hardest you've ever killed is Dana yeah Dan I want to hear you as well okay I'll think about it oh boy that
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goes back a long time I would say for me in anything in a sketch in a I would say
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um in the early 80s when I was really
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doing a lot of standup I had done these goofy pilots and TV shows and then I was
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working at this place called the other Cafe which Paulo Poundstone went and a lot of people 70 seat or 60 seater with
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a big window and that's where I got so confident doing eight shows a week that
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the late shows I would literally just kind of go with what I wanted to do and
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uh I had so much confidence I was crushing in that room and the reason is this is cu I was always a sketch player
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but didn't know it there was no grounding up there so I was always trying to do characters and sketch so in
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this 60 Cedar where there was no hard liquor was really helpful in the hate ashberry where I met my wife by the way
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um those are the best sets I've ever had um different kind of standup then you
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were you doing like what were what were you were you doing like chop and broccoli chop and broccoli came from
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there church lady came from there I can only imagine how hard chop and broccoli
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must have killed in a 60 seater CB as it's known
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CB thank you thank you for helping this podcast SP I know I'm helping so I I
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would just say that and then what happens is um you go on Satur Night Live and you're not doing as much standup and
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then they're offering you enormous amounts of money to play enormous rooms but you're never really in the shape
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that you should or could be in uh so your act gets worse and the money gets bigger but you're you're famous so
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you're riding waves and going to your hooks but that that was the best I ever was from my head space um and if I do
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shoot another special I would have to do it in a 50 seater that's a tight space
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but you know it's not popular to do that what your theater how big was that one
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uh Fonda it's probably 8900 so that's it felt very intimate oh Fonda on
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so David that's my story Neil David when Spade when was you when were you crushing the
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hardest I feel like it's any time I'm doing standup where they're not filming it for
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Netflix and then when they film a special something happens where the Crowd
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Goes I'm paying to see you but this this just goes back to the joke of whenever
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most people film a special it's not their best night on stage this was my
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Netflix that just came out was the two worst shows of the whole tour see I'm
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telling you it's true Dana agrees something about it I had the same thing
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there was a technical issue on Friday night um so that got to throw that out
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so you work on it for six months and then you got one shot and the audience sees the cameras and the lights and so
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it's hard to that's why Sandler's special because he did it all all over
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the place and over you're watching a guy you're watching a special and the guy doesn't know he's doing a special so
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Sandler didn't know if he was going to use all that and so that was awesome because it was just not he wasn't doing
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a special but really that was your worst set because it felt felt pretty no it was I know it was still very good but it
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was like and then the thing happens where you're like you're pissed and you can't be pissed yeah there's like a
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party that's like oh these [ __ ] uh you paid to see me yeah that's funny
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I I'm having a tough set on my special night when they paid to see me is that like you popped in at The Comedy Store
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yeah I want to introduce a psychological problem based on this and not being able to shoot it 20
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times that and it's not a good place to be in like if you you have the exact
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same set cameras are gone just gone it's Saturday night and it's a little tight whatever at least for me I might step
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outside the lines do do a little crowd work switch up my set you know try to
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work what's been given to me but when you're out there and you're doing your set and it it's doesn't help me to be in
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this linear thing I feel like it's homework I have to get to these bits as
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opposed to I got a lot of bits in my quiver and I'm just out here tonight so that's another thing to get quiver like
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quiver like that whoops there's more arrows here's some chuing broccoli
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oh be careful the church lady may make an appearance but U that's why I want I
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want it be like that on a hello um besides me and Spade don't me
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and Spade don't do crowd work what were there any other suggestions I don't really do it either I think I don't
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really do it either but in a small room you can really have a conversation a little
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bit should we go on I'm still just curious how you're Happ ask like I can
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do an hour I don't I'll go however you guys want just cut it down I don't you know because happiness is such an elusive word I'm not and you're just
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saying you're better what yeah I don't I'm not yes I'm not like uh like you
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know I'm still like the joke engine or whatever is still the same but it's I it's more pleasant for to be me I'm not
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I'm not I realized something on MDMA which uh I was like very I was like
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felt very forgiving and very open and I was like why am I so open now and I
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realized because most of the time my brain is just like cortisol and adrenaline and I'm like thriving in that
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and I think that's my personality and that's my Outlook and then I was like that's not even your Outlook that's just
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the chemicals you have so therefore it makes you think you're it makes you seem
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cynical and cutting and biting and and abrasive and it's like
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that's just the chemicals you have so I've figured out a way to try to ignore those chemicals and bring in more of
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like the nice serotonin family chemicals it seems like a lot of things in life
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are a little bit like just working it fake it till you make it you know yeah it's just literally you know what I've
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been doing which is the corniest thing in the world it's like I do a gratitude checklist oh four times a day smart yeah
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but like I do it four times a day CU I feels high four feels like a lot but
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because I will forget it I will forget oh yeah I just forget in and then I
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start thinking negatively about my life or like I I say it's like I write science fiction about my life like
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they're out to get me and Spade hates you whatever and then you go uh and then
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I just go and then I write down like no you're a popular comedian you have three
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Netflix specials you co-created Dave like just things that are actually true
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like you write jokes jokes just come to you your whatever the attributes of the
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positive attributes of life you're good at your job you do well you know it's a hard field if you can make a living in
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the arch or something you love at and make a good living that's a gratitude check off absolutely absolutely I get
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paid to do this I still go back to that all the time yes it's very hard I'm working right now yeah it's hard to well
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this feels like work but it's other stuff um it's it's hard to remember it's
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just hard to remember the positive parts of your life because we're like kind of pro it's cooler to be negative and look
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look like oh this is hard and I'm like I'm a soldier and all like no we're all
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incredibly lucky and so was it your idea to write down the four times a day or is it a therapist uh it was actually no I
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mean like I was aware of it as like a you know an Oprah thing and then some
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and then I was talking about Islam and I said they pray five times a day which is smart because it's like you got to
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remember and then rain Wilson from the office was like why don't you try doing
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gratitude four times a day and I was like all right and I've been doing it like probably four months at this point
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it's pretty great and what did iasa give you if that MDA gave you that sort of gratitude and IA gave me it got me off
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anti-depressants for good pretty pretty big yeah and I was an atheist before and
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then Doan iasa made me believe in a central creation Force thing and but
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it's not like religious or like so therefore I nothing wrong with that I I totally believe in that you know yeah
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you know yeah I think people get hung up on like well what Rel it's like what what franchise do you you know believe
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in right and that's yeah it gets to me
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uh we're here I always go back to that like what are why are we here are we really
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here what is our purpose here what are we doing here so I I just emotionally
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have to think there's some creative designer some some reason some some
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reason because it's it's also more comforting just to you know a lot of faith or just belief systems if they I
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mean they asked Mel Gibson who's a very devout Catholic and he did rather than going defending the religion goes he
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goes what what choice have I got I did a Australian accent what choice have I got so you know it's like
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I'm G to be way more content and at peace with myself during this time this
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journey so it's sort of like I'm choosing to be open to the yeah in a
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weird way it is like a self-interested choice because it kind of feel it's easier if you're not if you don't take
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everything so literally like if it's like this is this is my only shot and I got to make I got to make the most money
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and I got to succeed and I gotta on this time this 80 years or whatever on Earth I gotta rise and grind and you're like
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or it's like no you're part of a bigger that's what I say four times a day I would
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say this is my only shot I need more money now I thought I believe and I was
00:28:48
in my late 20s I realized there was a higher power than lawen Michaels no I
00:28:53
was at 30 and then I said there's got to be something above that and now I'm inine
00:29:00
and we're talking of course about Bernie burlin those are two of my favorite
00:29:06
references fantastic nobody knows nothing nobody
00:29:12
knows anything in the business not give me 10% of your
00:29:17
money I don't know anything but listen to me but we love we love Bernie I love
00:29:23
Bernie when you did Chappelle show was let's say 20 2003 does that sound right
00:29:30
oh yeah that sounds right it is right 2002 to 2004 or 2002 to 2005 okay so SNL
00:29:38
was going and you guys did you ever want to write for SNL was that any even in
00:29:43
your possibilities or you we had written yeah like kind of like I me and Chappelle R Half Baked in 97 and then
00:29:50
was in it and then I kind of got you were doing SP that's when I met you you were doing uh eight heads in a duffel
00:29:57
bag not at the top of the resume but yes Toronto that sounds about right Toronto
00:30:03
yeah in Toronto uh and then and then I was sort of and then I met a guy named
00:30:09
Mike Sher who wrote for SNL and he and I wrote a little bit a couple screenplays together okay and then so I was always
00:30:15
sort of around and then and then I and then through Sher I became friends with like Seth Meyers and Po and and then all
00:30:24
those people uh so I would go to the the parties that's
00:30:29
something yeah so that's something and then I actually when Dave posted in
00:30:36
2016 I uh wrote that week on the show and uh
00:30:44
and it was it was it was I mean it was the week Trump got won the election so
00:30:49
it was an insane week to be there oh wow um but uh and it was like
00:30:58
I remember being on I was friends with Joe so I was like in Joe's office and on
00:31:05
a uh exit polling conference call at 6 pm on the election night and the guy
00:31:12
Frank Lutz was like Hillary's up by six Hillary's up by six points like so
00:31:19
then so then uh p.m. okay yeah at 6 PM
00:31:25
eastern time and uh and then so as the night went on you just got to
00:31:33
see like what like people transform and like me and Chay Michael Chay wrote A
00:31:39
Sketch about it was gonna be Rick James doing an update I like it already of anything
00:31:46
with Rick starts with Rick James right Rick James doing a weekend update uh doing an update about how he realizes
00:31:55
that he could have been president of the United States and uh and and like but we did like
00:32:02
three versions of it like there was like at N9 o'clock it's like Donald Trump failed at Rick James's dream and then at
00:32:10
2 am we rewrote it to be like another thing and then it and then 5: a. we reot
00:32:16
it to like I could have been president and then me and joose at like 6 or 7
00:32:24
a.m. I I pitched a sketch of like why don't we just do a bunch of people
00:32:29
watching the Returns come in and it ended up being like the popular sketch that week good but we
00:32:36
wrote it it I mean again I'm not tell it's all these like it's the same heroism stories every all the SNL like
00:32:43
I'm a hero and then like I punched Downey and uh and then we got the
00:32:49
scripted cards um but uh Rand the cards yeah and then Wally was like what is
00:32:55
this I can't even read um uh so we wrote that sketch and it did
00:33:01
like pretty good it did like decent read through but it had like some punch and
00:33:06
then we rewrote it some of those are visual and then you they come alive when you're doing what what was the the
00:33:12
through hook of that just just the uh it was literally like it was like 7
00:33:18
A.M I I'm really like everyone's excited and then like you know couple lines
00:33:24
about how shes keep start dropping yeah 930 yeah then like uh looks like Trump
00:33:29
won and like them going like what and then Dave's watching it with them and then Chappelle had a funny like a funny
00:33:37
Direction uh for the rewrite he goes just make it blacker so so so the so then the
00:33:44
direction became like white people overreacting to a bad outcome and Dave
00:33:52
being black about it Dave just being like what the [ __ ] did you like what did you think the and then Rock came in uh
00:34:00
like then Rock shows up at like 11: like with some food like what's going on and
00:34:05
then him and Dave are just like play uh play sniper to a bunch of upset white
00:34:11
people um but it was a funny it was funny like be not real not I mean like
00:34:18
knowing about the show secondhand through Seth and sure and a few people but so so I because I was like with
00:34:26
writing with Dave I got to go into the sketch pick thing after big place the
00:34:33
inter sanctum with Lauren Club each each each sketch is a card and some cards
00:34:38
make it onto the outline some don't it's a scary place so you go in there I did a
00:34:44
I did it's like the sanctum of sanctums right yeah it's the it's the death it's the center of the Death Star so I did a
00:34:52
thing that I didn't know you can't do is I went up to the board
00:34:59
yes I went up to the board took a card and said I think you should move this
00:35:05
[ __ ] stuck and I don't think anyone had ever done it no no I never saw anyone to
00:35:10
it no I think I paralyzed I think I yes exactly and I paralyzed Lauren to the I
00:35:19
because Lauren is for the many things he is fairly passive yeah if you confront
00:35:25
him I didn't none of this was C Cal at so I I I I basically hacked Lauren
00:35:33
godamn moved a sketch up hack the system pushed him out of the way put yeah like
00:35:39
get out get punch him in the yeah threw him through the window uh and then um
00:35:45
and then after after the after dress dress didn't go well I I never
00:35:53
realized how Shaggy dress was Shaggy yeah yeah it was it's it can be really
00:36:00
some loose ends and dress yeah like you don't know it's like oh this shouldn't
00:36:05
be not only this shouldn't be a television show this shouldn't be on its feet right now this is rehearsal no this
00:36:11
it's not a joke but there were a couple times my first season I didn't know how it all worked either I thought it was so
00:36:16
bad and so long and so discombobulated I just thought the show is not going to go
00:36:22
on tonight they're going to have to show a movie or something yeah they're going to have to show like Godfather or
00:36:28
something or like a or like The Lone Ranger or something it's so long you're like this is still
00:36:34
going what the we got to do the real one in a minute starts at 7:30 you're like we're not g to be able to do the 11:30
00:36:41
show this is running so long so so after
00:36:46
dress I we're in the lawren office which is like 75 it's a fire hazard it's like
00:36:52
75 people yeah in this cramp room it is a fire hazard 20 by it's like
00:36:58
yeah Chappelle was actually talk about hacking the system he was smoking during that
00:37:03
meeting it's a tiny room um and uh and I
00:37:11
Lauren I think I did the card thing again Jesus you took over and then this is how how hard I
00:37:19
hacked this guy during the show you gave no during
00:37:24
the show it's like uh you know the show's going well right it's like we we figured it out whatever cut the jokes
00:37:30
that don't work it was a miracle when you cut the [ __ ] that doesn't work the whole thing is better it starts to shine
00:37:36
a little bit yeah yeah yeah and uh and at you know it's
00:37:41
12440 45 there's one sketch left and there's a few on the board and I go
00:37:47
what's next and Lauren goes you decide ah wow so I got to pick the sketch which
00:37:57
with Seth was Seth Myers was like I don't think anyone's that's ever happened no um and the do the way you do
00:38:05
it is you you have to rush the cockpit on Wednesday yeah you rush the cockpit
00:38:10
you get you rest control from them and uh and and that's the only way that and
00:38:18
now and then you're the captain now and then Lauren forgot your name because he's so many people he's probably oh
00:38:24
could we have the the pin Pusher card guy come in from Wednesday pin Pusher no
00:38:29
you know what's funny I did go I did go back because I had a good experience I
00:38:35
went back another week when I think aiz I'm sorry was hosting and me and joose
00:38:41
wrote A Sketch and uh guess who wasn't in the sketch picking meeting
00:38:47
yep you know what I since then they have
00:38:52
someone in there that pushes a beverage cart in front of the host and his friends in the room
00:38:58
so no one can get to the board I like I just like the balls of him going okay now it's the air show we're going to
00:39:04
open with uh Dave's monologue and you hear in the back nope not this week old man sorry that's
00:39:12
at the end mon yep no I know what do what do you
00:39:18
think well why would that's interesting but it was it was uh it was I done it I
00:39:25
went back two more weeks so a total of three weeks and by the third week it I
00:39:31
was I had like the classic experience of like the sketch you're think your SK you
00:39:38
have to kind of get your they don't pick your sketch and then you you I like Jo
00:39:45
objected and then some people didn't like it and then H we got it on but it
00:39:51
was like late and then people objected and then it got cut Friday night oo yeah
00:39:57
no I know it was like oh this is the I was like this is the experience I've heard about oh
00:40:03
wow yeah and uh ugly
00:40:08
ugly no it was pretty ugly we should take a we should take a pause I mean this is a and you go I guess I don't get
00:40:16
to pick the last sketch again maybe I'll pick that one maybe Lauren do I need to
00:40:22
reintroduce myself maybe maybe you who runs the show yeah Lauren you're
00:40:28
spinning a p Lauren I could pick it please is there
00:40:34
a donkey tail anywhere H this fell off the board
00:40:39
accidentally yeah so it was uh I had like I had every experience I think in 3
00:40:44
weeks so
00:40:49
funny so you Chappelle like I mean just in Broad stroke just for our listeners
00:40:56
the difference between doing sketch in that environment and that whatever
00:41:01
protocol you guys had I didn't really know but I assume it was pre-taped not live it was all pre-taped yeah and it
00:41:09
was and the staff was me and him so it was like it was well because we had done
00:41:16
Half Baked in 97 and it didn't go well and then uh and then like we just didn't
00:41:23
get what it was we worked with Bob Simons who you guys both work with like un Half Baked and uh and and uh we it
00:41:33
was we just kind of got mauled by the process because we were 23 so what what
00:41:38
is the when you look back at because I've done a lot of bombs and stuff or I was in them but what was the what was
00:41:44
the was there a flaw in half-baked or it was Tiny it was I mean I will I'll clean
00:41:49
up our end of the street we should have just Rewritten it more uh once we got green lit we were just like [ __ ]
00:41:56
we're 23 let's get this perdum in our pockets and get to the Brass Rail the
00:42:02
strip club in Toronto in Toronto yeah um yeah what are you gonna wear to the
00:42:08
Oscars yeah I mean we were yeah so like it's so exciting you
00:42:14
go this is it they bought the movie let's go shoot it you you don't think of let's keep I do think it had a great name yeah half B yeah that was brewers
00:42:23
brewers pitch so like uh so we just should have rewriting it and then there
00:42:28
was just stuff production stuff that it was like you know by the time we
00:42:33
saw drawings and renderings of this the sets and stuff it was all very bright
00:42:39
and colorful and we were just kind of like is this what you thought it was gonna be just like we didn't I think Bob
00:42:46
had like the the Billy Madison Billy Madison lens on it yeah like the Billy
00:42:52
Madison color palette and I Dana I didn't see Master disguise but it looked
00:42:57
like you had that we had it uh Adam had it less in Happy Gilmore because it was
00:43:03
more exteriors but he got sort of further away from the sort of coll the
00:43:10
kindergarten color palette um Che cheerful family oriented film exactly we
00:43:17
yeah we were doing a weed movie so it was kind of like not exactly right for that so what just stuff like that like so the
00:43:23
authenticity quotient went yes yes and Rewritten it more Neo you can even get
00:43:29
burned on posters because there's a whole art like a blue background like and and I think Tommy Boy has one A lot
00:43:35
of them there's a there's a system where there's certain colors that make it look like a fun happy family movie and
00:43:42
there's some that look a little grainier even on the poster yes that's exactly right and but then also were you in
00:43:48
Airheads Spade no no uh sorry to put that on you Frasier yes but like
00:43:56
AirHeads was a little more Indie looking Half Baked had the bright blue background yeah grass Dave and J you
00:44:03
know it's like you're absolutely right like there's just a bunch of stuff and I'm not saying like that it was wrong
00:44:09
I'm not I'm I'm I kind of feel like wasn't quite right for us and by the time we were just we didn't have any
00:44:15
power to go like no I didn't know that you could just walk up and take the index card
00:44:21
yeah it's not it's not actually all the time anyone's fault or a conspiracy it's
00:44:26
just no exactly there's subjectivity to it but I you know I think if there's a
00:44:31
through line let's say you and Davey wrote it and you had complete control over it essentially like the way Adam
00:44:38
Sandler does then you would all that all your standup would come into play like well what's working what's working but
00:44:45
if it gets mut that's exactly right yeah and also we were I was 23 Dave was 23 we
00:44:50
didn't so then once we got to Chappelle Show then it was every single decision
00:44:56
comes through one of us yeah and that that's why I mean there for better for worse at least you can take the credit
00:45:01
or live or die with it yeah and uh and so so like that was so it was me and him
00:45:09
we would write we would people a couple people a guy named Brian Tucker who went on to be a great SNL writer would pitch
00:45:16
pitched us some sketches uh but it me and they would always write them ourselves and uh so it
00:45:25
was you know we it was just a twers sort of black hole operation of like how many
00:45:32
how many sketches did you need because they were half hours right yeah was it was 22 yeah it was 22 minutes one a week
00:45:39
no it was 22 minutes uh my plus we had
00:45:44
musical guests which would end up being about 3 minutes so we ended up needing about four or five per episode the heart
00:45:51
and that's very hard so that's a lot we to do yeah we had to do 12 episodes but
00:45:57
here's the crazy part without reruns so we had to do 12 weeks in a row
00:46:06
of four or five sketches yeah so that's where you it's just becomes like almost
00:46:14
unbearable well just you two I mean come on the writer room is too much yeah just
00:46:20
us so it was and and like like you guys said for better worse there's some some of it's great second season's way better
00:46:26
than the first one to me um but uh and to I mean just objectively but but yeah
00:46:32
it just became like very so there was so the hard part was the
00:46:39
pressure and not the there was no back stabbing there was no there were no
00:46:45
politics okay it your energy goes to the show yes but so it's like you guys got
00:46:51
weeks off but the whole week off you're thinking about what an [ __ ] soand so is you know um so we didn't have uh we
00:47:00
had less of that but it is just like un like so so hard to do it that many weeks
00:47:07
in a row and uh and then we get you know three months off for for between Seasons
00:47:14
but but yeah but it's but were you riding High when when did you go holy
00:47:19
[ __ ] we got a hit well you know what's funny is I I way it pertains to SNL is
00:47:25
uh you guys did you guys read that live from New York book The Tom shales book flip through it yeah I'm I'm familiar
00:47:34
with it yeah yeah you lived it so you're less you're it's more like oh yeah is
00:47:39
that what happened but oh yeah there's a lot of stuff you go well that didn't happen like that yeah exactly but from
00:47:45
an outsider for an outsider it was interesting to I didn't know I genuinely
00:47:52
didn't had never and I love SK I wrote for a sketch called all that on when I was like 20 before all that stuff yeah
00:48:01
with Keenan on Set uh Qui on set you may know um dude that show is so popular
00:48:10
it's it's number one on HBO today it's been out for like a month but uh not that quiet yeah it's
00:48:18
not that uh I have I had a good joke on that guy that'll tell you guys off the air um it wasn't about molesting it was
00:48:25
a fat shaming joke that's pretty cool okay um the uh but so I never until I
00:48:31
read uh live from New York I never thought about like character sketches or
00:48:36
parodies or premise sketches or like I never knew the I never kind of
00:48:42
classified them so once so I literally read it I I take it toel go read this
00:48:49
like before we do we' gotten picked up and then he was like oh so then we
00:48:55
started approaching it like let's do a character sketch let's do a premise sketch let's do I mean our it was so
00:49:02
disorganized it was such a Twan operation that we had we ended up having two distinctions of sketches which is
00:49:08
longies and shorties so it's a pretty yeah smart high level high level
00:49:14
operation but like high level lingo well there's also uh which is done is we used
00:49:20
to call them on the Dana Carvey Show presentational so it's like there's a
00:49:26
little song or a Kyon that kind of gives a joke away like Germans who say nice things that I did with Steve Carell it's
00:49:32
his bit it's just two guys facing you know the premise right away yep two
00:49:37
minutes of jokes that yes that's that's a that's a I'm glad you brought that up because the the I remember I went to SNL
00:49:45
while we were doing Chapelle Show and I was like I looked at Seth and I was like oh I I now I realized having Chappelle
00:49:53
on stage setting the sketch up before befor hand MH does so much heavy lifting
00:50:00
yes I don't you don't need to spend 80 Seconds going like here we are at a
00:50:06
restaurant I hope nothing crazy happens everyone's wondering where it's going like what's going on what we doing so he
00:50:12
could say like me and my wife argue about race and who does what and then we go like so we got to have a racial draft
00:50:19
and then toss to like everything's set up uh which again I think there's like
00:50:25
you guys but D I forgot how great The Dana Cary show was until you mention it uh congratulations again that show was
00:50:32
incredible it's nice to have a do when you only get eight shows on the air and you get a nice documentary thank you
00:50:38
Josh bomb you know that kind of goes uh yeah you know could be worse yeah could
00:50:44
be totally forgotten I was gonna ask you this question based on you asking
00:50:49
bringing that up because uh Steve Carell and Stephen cber they were not them they
00:50:54
weren weren't who they are now yet you know they're kind of insecure but they were great immediately and you've known
00:51:00
Dave so long and forget the how funny he is just his stage presence has gone to
00:51:07
this other level I don't know how you've watched this evolution of somebody who's that
00:51:12
comfortable on stage and confidence yeah I don't I don't think it's uh or has he
00:51:18
always been that guy it's I mean he's kind of always been that guy and he was good I don't know when you guys for some
00:51:25
but I I heard a story fairly recently where Martin Lawrence Dave's in high school on stage
00:51:34
at Garvin or somewhere in DC and uh Martin Lawrence has has done like do the
00:51:40
right thing and he's come back to DC and he's doing good and uh somebody's like
00:51:45
and Dave's on stage and somebody says to Martin what do you think of this kid and Martin goes I don't know but I can't stop looking at
00:51:52
him uh like he's in high school that Dave also had a joke that I like telling
00:51:57
people one of his high school jokes uh when the show Alf came out um Dave had a
00:52:04
joke uh it's a good thing Alf didn't land it's a good thing Al landed in a white neighborhood and not a black
00:52:11
neighborhood because if Al had landed in a black neighborhood two weeks later you would have seen brothers wearing Al skin
00:52:18
coats Al skin coats pretty good joke for a kid in high
00:52:23
school so like the thing of his uh how natural he is and like I don't
00:52:31
even think it's can I don't even compare it I it's like well I'm never gonna be able
00:52:37
to do that so it's not even worth emulating because a lot of people could
00:52:43
yeah yeah like do you guys know of anybody that's that like I've literally been having conversations with him like
00:52:51
I don't even know when the show's starting he's smoking be like brenon you don't know then now
00:52:57
puts the cigarette doesn't even put the cigarette out just backs onto the stage while we're talking and gets a standing
00:53:05
ovation yeah like just not there's no separation
00:53:10
between being a person and being the guy on stage yeah well well two things that
00:53:15
are interesting is do that that I guess for a period of time post that show and
00:53:20
everything that happened you know he'd start to show up in clubs and I would just hear yeah I would hear six hour set
00:53:26
or 4our sets I don't yeah you know and so that would get someone confident
00:53:32
anyway but this is what's interesting to me like Eddie Murphy is 19 he comes out on SNL so he's
00:53:40
he's had a a confidence you know he's just there it's unbelievable right I'll
00:53:45
take Louis CK just just because I he's such a brilliant standup amazing comedian yeah and he's going through the
00:53:51
normal thing of finding his way then 20 years later he's at this level that you
00:53:57
can't you can only equal it as a standup so it's interesting where people who get
00:54:03
it so fast and so young um but we could get there Neil you could get there I
00:54:11
start today we start I have you booked at uh the west side you're going to do a seven hour set Neil Neil Brennan and
00:54:19
friends but no one else is coming well no but that's what's funny is like you
00:54:24
don't I I don't I'm I it's like how I would think of it's like I don't have I
00:54:30
bar I have the material I have I have 43 minutes or whatever whereas I don't I
00:54:38
can't like Channel or whatever like Spade you seem like a very bit oriented person like you have the time you
00:54:46
have yeah well I I also like to do longer stories now because to eat time
00:54:52
also and to be more personality driven bits because some bits can be if you do it about a subject it
00:54:59
might have been trampled on already but if you talk about your own life or your version of something that happens that
00:55:05
sort of identifies you and your persona so those stories I like a lot because
00:55:11
they can't be really duplicated it has to be me telling them so I like those in the ACT uh it doesn't do well for how
00:55:19
old are stories are there stories that you're doing that you didn't you were like could I do that in my ACT are they
00:55:25
new stories or is it like when I was a kid U most of it's new but I could go
00:55:32
back and mind stuff and say this was funny and I can make it funnier because
00:55:37
you you learn how to tell stories better but if it has like little tiny punch lines along the way yeah and little tent
00:55:44
pole laughs so it's not just a story like Norm used to tell a joke Johnny went to school and then it's a 15
00:55:50
minutes and then he does the punchline so it's It's Kind of a Funny walk there
00:55:55
through the joke but you also are like waiting for the actual funny part yeah
00:56:01
but but if you can keep a story going like that uh I do like that I also have someone liners it's really a mess to be
00:56:07
honest but it's whatever is funny he's funny I but I don't like doing long sets I'll say that I don't like doing hour
00:56:13
and a half I don't think it's necessary I don't either I don't think people want like my Netflix is 53 minutes like I I
00:56:21
it was an hour and five live but like I'm like I don't I'm with you no I think
00:56:27
everyone's sharing shorts and stuff I think it just needs um atel I think was
00:56:32
35 minutes to stand up but he had people playing the reporter to extend it to 40
00:56:38
so if you go past we were talking about this that you can kind of ride a wave to
00:56:44
maybe 40 but not anybody has to have that low the audience gets tired if
00:56:49
you're lucky you know from laughing and then you have to low and then you have to rebuild but what I would say about
00:56:54
you which makes you unique one is the three mics thing very original
00:57:00
incredibly fun for a comedian to watch you know it's just like oh you know all these Styles and then on this one I
00:57:07
haven't seen anyone do it but you're just doing regular standup you're killing but then all of a sudden you're
00:57:13
talking about atheism you your face goes to a little corner In Black and White I
00:57:18
think and then this sort of commercial this big video comes on I do basically I
00:57:24
do uh B the premise is religions should make
00:57:30
attack ads on each other like politicians yeah and uh and so then I do
00:57:37
I basically do the voice over in the corner and uh screen in the theater no
00:57:45
there was no screen there so they're laughing because of your you're laughing because of the voice over and then
00:57:51
because this is a visual presentation for people at home I'm like yeah why
00:57:58
it's the you know what analogy I always use is the like television degrades
00:58:04
makes you can film an amazing thing and in order for it to work through a
00:58:09
television camera and go and work at homes it has to be so great that it can
00:58:15
get through television like knocks the quality down six 40% right yeah and and
00:58:22
the analogy I always use is SNL musical guests SNL musical guests live in that
00:58:29
studio I think we could all agree some of the best shows I've ever seen or
00:58:34
heard too it's like some of the best yes what I mean yes literally someone you
00:58:40
don't even like will give you the chills yeah at when you watch them at 8h and
00:58:46
then if you if you're at home you're like fast forwarding and that's the difference
00:58:52
between like television just makes stuff worse like in the room it can feel the Bas in your chest so it's so in terms of
00:58:59
like standup I tried to do more visual stuff on Netflix because they people can
00:59:06
watch anything people can watch Batman return they can watch any
00:59:12
they can watch flip and fall videos they can watch the zuder film they can watch
00:59:17
they can just watch any they can watch The Godfather too they can watch like right you know
00:59:23
so that a PR's bad quality because that's it no it's not great quality but you can you can see it no on TV it comes
00:59:30
out very but it's pretty funny and it is pretty funny it's
00:59:38
funny what I was going to say was then you also did a a visual effect where
00:59:43
you're you're like on a big iPhone talking to us I'm do I'm talking about
00:59:49
social media Spade you would like my comedy you should look at it you would I and get influenced by it who
00:59:57
yeah um I do I talk about girls on social media and guys on social media
01:00:04
the kind of hustle preneur thing and I Danny you know what's funny is I'm kind
01:00:09
of doing I'm doing Hans run I'm doing the clap I do the clap basically and it
01:00:16
took me like a year before I'm like I'm doing H I just was doing it and then I
01:00:22
realized like oh I'm doing Hanson FR U without the accent um but uh but I cut
01:00:27
to when I'm doing the like what's up guys you want to make money I go to like a frame you know like the the 9916 frame
01:00:37
so just trying to help myself on television yeah yeah it's and and it
01:00:44
it's like it's less of a man it's less of a t talk it's less of a one man
01:00:50
standing there nothing happening if you do think of that way cuz on the last special when I went into the inter them
01:00:56
they said mo mo that Max people last 12 15 minutes and if you designed your
01:01:03
standup like the audience the physical audience is going to start leaving you
01:01:08
would really frontload it and the g the way to win the game show is that you keep them longer than anyone else but
01:01:15
about your visual imagery it's a little bit to me like when David and I talk on this other podcast we're doing where
01:01:21
we're just sort of riffing and stuff and I'm doing a couple voices and then we have a gentleman young person edit it
01:01:28
together and then mix in visual effects to it um that and that's your YouTube
01:01:33
short clip everyone does it and it's just very potent you know potency is H
01:01:39
better this idea that like you know I'm like I'm breaking the sanctity of
01:01:45
standup like there's no no like I'm compete I want people to look at it I
01:01:51
don't want to I don't like and all this thing about like what about the history your legacy I love comedy I haven't
01:01:59
watched Richard prior in 25 years I'm not going back and looking and the like
01:02:04
what about it's like it did we have my n the the One Crazy K was on the Netflix
01:02:11
charts for a week I can't believe it was on there that long I usually it's like
01:02:17
we get about in terms of like bring the pain christas special came out in '96
01:02:23
and I feel like it lasted Al for three years do you know what I me analog in
01:02:31
the 9s yeah yeah and even like Mike Mike Myers was saying like this is very like
01:02:37
what all what this is is not the Showbiz that we all started especially you guys
01:02:43
who were like popular like Wayne if you were in Wayne's World this is a little different right
01:02:51
um so so even it's say Stark standup special it's like at a certain point it
01:02:56
could be anel Adams you know you just don't want to go it looks great but you you want to get with the times too so we
01:03:02
have little Clips you got to Jazz them up or put words anything just Jazz them anything anything anything people are
01:03:10
it's Dana that's a good way to think of it is like how do I get people to not
01:03:15
walk away imagine them walking out of bur Bill Burr actually said he tries to
01:03:20
make his setups sound insane so that people will be like what where he's like
01:03:27
I'm sick of fat people crying and then you go wait what right yeah every Tik Tok starts with this is the craziest
01:03:34
thing that ever happened to me and then they go let me back up and you're like yeah yeah have you guys you guys know
01:03:40
about toes well I st mine has that happened to you it's incredible like y I
01:03:46
got really rich with crypto should I hate myself you know yeah that's right by
01:03:53
lines yeah approaching it from like not even Sensational like or as
01:03:59
sensationally as you can do it and not feel like a piece of garbage um so like
01:04:06
that's the that's kind even Sandler's a good example like guitars and I'm gonna put it down and then I'm gonna go over
01:04:12
here and it's just like and he's got visuals yeah he's got visuals he's got the his clothes are now with the like
01:04:20
the thank you comedy thing like it's like and he said he's going to he had a screen and stuff behind behind him
01:04:26
so yeah I tot agree do yeah do like I don't I I think it's silly to think that
01:04:32
we should just do it the way it was done old F yeah a pure a purist would be the
01:04:39
yeah because if I'm never I'm sure you guys meet people all the time who are
01:04:44
like have no idea who you are and then you go I remember there was a girl I
01:04:50
know let me slow down uh no there was a girl there was a there was a girl girl
01:04:55
who wrote on The Daily Show who was a black girl who didn't know that Chris Rock had a show on HBO here you go like
01:05:04
easily easily yeah how like how and then you go well how would she know she was
01:05:10
eight when it was on right someone said I know all your [ __ ] all the way back to grown-ups I'm like grown-ups that was 10
01:05:18
years ago I thought I was done by the time grown-ups came out yeah I go I got new juice juicy life on TBS my
01:05:26
have jped the shark on that you know they're like in their late 60s and they're like you know my kids sure sure
01:05:33
are fansy yours they are yeah they were born when Wings world was made how's
01:05:38
that possible but yeah Dana what are the what are the bits that people bring up from Wayne's World now that like the
01:05:45
most common bits obviously like swing and all that stuff when it's out but what is the little ones if you're going to spew
01:05:52
spew into this for me little gar things um I'd say for me it' be the
01:05:59
dream girl and being knocked over and the foxy lady dance because the hendrik song is very potent I don't know if
01:06:04
you've seen the movie but G the shiest guy in town does this dance um stuff
01:06:10
like that if you to get a hit like that is so rare talk about gratitude I'm gonna write that down gratitud W World W
01:06:19
world and Mike Myers and I and Lauren Michaels share net profit on the film
01:06:24
and so every year we get checks from that film met profit yeah there were no
01:06:30
gross players people don't know that you don't really make money for movies because if there's someone in there who
01:06:35
gets 20% of the gross they'll never turn a profit but we made it for 12 and it did 200 million and then it did a bunch
01:06:41
on video so that was kind of cool so I didn't want to say but I took iasa
01:06:48
right before we got on this is kind we're timing this really well I'll I'll tell you what I learned
01:06:54
from today's podcast sum it up before before we let before we let go you guys
01:07:00
I'm trying to think of anything else we should talk about if there's anything I I was gonna say I did like that you wrote for singled out because I used to
01:07:06
watch that show and Jenny McCarthy blew up that was a cool fun show but was it was there any crazy thing you that was
01:07:12
my first job in Show Business that was my first writing job and I remember a big show it was yeah it was like she was
01:07:20
on the cover of Rolling Stone I like uh and and the Rolling Stone was a magazine
01:07:27
and then it was like there were a few cultural hubs um and uh they yeah no I
01:07:34
remember saying during the pilot this is this show is very stupid and it's going
01:07:39
to be very popular like I could just sort of tell like oh this is gonna be yeah I'm so old
01:07:46
Neil how old are you I was I'm so old I was in Las Vegas the night Tupac was
01:07:53
murdered and I ended up sitting at a blackjack table with Jenny McCarthy all
01:07:58
night playing Blackjack that's how old I am I was meeting Chappelle there and he missed his flight is that how you
01:08:05
mourned wow wouldn't be the first time it wouldn't be the last time you miss a flight to meet me and uh and yeah so I'm
01:08:14
quite aged yeah you're old and um I think your next special should be called
01:08:20
cortisol and adrenaline is cortisol yeah cortisol and
01:08:25
adrenaline negative negative uh chem brain chemicals it should be called be
01:08:30
grateful that you're about to watch Neil Brennan's comedy show with a lot of extra pictures and words oh I'm if I do
01:08:39
one now I've been thinking this way anyway it's just gonna be just blasting video and parodies and it should be
01:08:46
what's the downside it's like nobody nobody gets one person complained like
01:08:51
not even complained they were just like it kind of took me out of it everybody else knows like this is where we are
01:08:58
Seinfeld Jerry Seinfeld didn't mention the video you know what I mean like didn't say like I didn't like that like
01:09:04
it was every everyone's on board like we we have to help ourselves guys I think
01:09:10
mine might be called wait for it because that's what every stupid Tik Tok says wait watch till the end no yeah watch
01:09:16
till the end and then you go by the way I I like when they say wait for it and it's a sixc video I'm like I'm here yeah
01:09:24
I mean yeah now how bad are people attention SP like wait for six seconds yeah and then it's very uh anticlimactic
01:09:31
I just want to quickly do a quick test to see if we can bring crazy good back
01:09:37
into the top 10 this is a great special it's revolutionary it has video effects you don't believe it he talks about uh
01:09:45
antivaxx people talks about Joe Rogan I see sex couples Psychopaths invented the
01:09:51
world basically and drug addicts they're very very important and of course course iasa we talk about on this of course and
01:09:59
and Ellen degenerous I have a I have a joke about Ellen degenerous that SP I think you will like and I'm sure can you
01:10:06
say it right now yeah I'll say it right now IAL I basically it you know people but
01:10:13
like comedians are expected to be leaders now and like moral morally righteous and people go is Ellen nice I
01:10:20
was like is Ellen nice how many nice lesbians have you ever met in your entire life
01:10:28
um yeah I go after Jim Jeff I go everybody gets a little something I'm
01:10:34
not even I don't go after any everybody was like everyone has approved and thanked me for them so like it's all
01:10:41
it's all it's all in good fun yeah and Jim Jeff I only in because with his Australian accent when he first came out
01:10:47
on this scene he had like a 10-minute bit and I remember him saying I don't like lesbians you can be having the best
01:10:54
day of your life a lesbian shows up you're [ __ ] you know something like that but anyway yeah great comment yes
01:11:01
great yes incredible comment and he and he is on the Spectrum all right great I it was a I'm I'm very happy to be here
01:11:07
and thank you for having me uh you were an incredible easy guest people who do
01:11:13
podcasts are really good guests I've noticed yeah I would like you both on my
01:11:18
podcast uh it's called blocks uh Spade I don't think you're going to do it it's a
01:11:24
little too emot for you Dana on the other hand I think is a is a prime candidate and I'm going
01:11:31
to send some emails about it yeah I would I have a I have a story I have a
01:11:38
story right um yeah okay most David has
01:11:43
stories too I don't know that's a whole another podcast of whether comedians also have some struggle we're all nuts I
01:11:51
mean obviously a lot of people do but comedians I meet seem to have stories a
01:11:56
lot of them you know Seinfeld did it yesterday so I feel like I Letterman's done it Letterman's done it and now I've
01:12:04
got Letterman ins signville I feel like who anyone who passes I'm kind of like okay so you're
01:12:09
better okay buddy got very good all right boys good to see you thanks Neil miss you see you soon on the street miss
01:12:15
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Episode Highlights

  • Neil Brennan's Journey with Mental Health
    Neil discusses his experiences with depression and how he found relief through unconventional methods.
    “I got less sad in a very risky way: iasa, DMT, and MDMA.”
    @ 08m 05s
    May 29, 2024
  • The Gratitude Checklist
    Neil shares his daily practice of gratitude to combat negativity and maintain a positive outlook.
    “I do a gratitude checklist four times a day.”
    @ 24m 41s
    May 29, 2024
  • The Power of Gratitude
    Practicing gratitude four times a day transformed my life and helped me find peace.
    “I've been doing it for probably four months at this point.”
    @ 26m 42s
    May 29, 2024
  • Sketch Writing at SNL
    Writing sketches at SNL is a high-pressure environment where every decision counts.
    “It's the center of the Death Star.”
    @ 34m 52s
    May 29, 2024
  • The Evolution of Dave Chappelle
    Dave Chappelle's stage presence has evolved into something extraordinary over the years.
    “I can't stop looking at him.”
    @ 51m 52s
    May 29, 2024
  • The Authenticity of Comedy
    There's no separation between being a person and being the guy on stage.
    “There's no separation between being a person and being the guy on stage.”
    @ 53m 05s
    May 29, 2024
  • Changing Comedy Preferences
    Comedians discuss how audiences prefer shorter sets nowadays.
    “I don't think people want long sets.”
    @ 56m 13s
    May 29, 2024
  • Adapting to Modern Audiences
    The need for comedians to evolve with the times and engage viewers.
    “We have to help ourselves, guys.”
    @ 01h 09m 04s
    May 29, 2024

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  • Neil Brennan's Special00:41
  • DMT Experience08:10
  • Gratitude Practice24:41
  • Finding Purpose27:28
  • SNL Experience34:52
  • Cultural Commentary52:04
  • Stage Presence53:05
  • Audience Engagement1:09:04

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