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Will Forte | Full Episode | Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade

August 16, 2023 / 01:11:50

This episode features comedian Will Forte discussing his career, memorable sketches, and personal experiences. Forte shares insights on his time at Saturday Night Live, including his iconic sketches like the spelling bee and his work on Last Man on Earth.

Forte reflects on his unique comedic style, which blends eccentricity and humility. He talks about his experiences with fellow SNL cast members, including Jason Sudeikis and Jon Hamm, and shares anecdotes about their collaborations.

The conversation also touches on Forte's personal life, including his recent marriage and becoming a father. He discusses the joys and challenges of parenthood and the significance of marriage.

David Spade and Dana Carvey engage with Forte, reminiscing about their time on SNL and the evolution of comedy on the show. They share stories about their early days and the pressures of performing live.

Overall, the episode highlights Forte's contributions to comedy and his journey through the entertainment industry, showcasing his talent and the camaraderie among SNL alumni.

TL;DR

Will Forte discusses his SNL career, memorable sketches, and personal life, including marriage and fatherhood, with David Spade and Dana Carvey.

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here we go David I'd like to sing a little song about our next guest and see if you can guess who it is
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[Music] willful time but I have one guest so far
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I'm not gonna say well okay
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Will Forte yeah anybody Will Forte I put my shades on so I could hear better uh
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it's a it's a good song It's a toe Tapper Will Forte who was in Last Man Standing last man well he was winning on
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our classic Saturday Night Live cast members he does the most eccentric
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sketches one involving Jason Sudeikis and potato chips is kind of famous yeah so it was so fun to talk to him his
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comedy is so eccentric and Brilliant and yet he's such a humble sweet guy to talk
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to yeah he was very sweet and we went through a lot of the sketches and you know Dana you're very complimentary
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because he's got he's got so many zigzag type of bits where you don't see where they're going and oh yeah the spelling
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bee does one of spelling bee if you've ever seen it we talk about that one it's so so funny he is Mr Commitment yeah
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commits perfect for SNL just on that
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[Applause] yeah can I plan you just sing
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Mr call me in my own [Music]
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I was doing it it was very long look I get letters I know you're on Insta you
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know Instagram and stuff I can't stand your letters I get letters I'm old school and uh they always say can we
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like to hear David sing ing my mom told me I had to carry out get my birthday once and this is a quick
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story Ashton Kutcher was there and uh Ashton Kutcher's at your birthday when you're like 10 when I was 40. so a year
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ago and you're still okay he was he was anyway he's a very cool dude so he comes party
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and I go to sing uh Wanted Dead or Alive the bottom line is the story is my mom
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was at the party and she told me I can't sing but the middle part of the story is wait a minute the song how does that go
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oh I'll do it okay so Ashton we go let's do this one so
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I go it's all the same all in her name of Jane you know that song oh yeah yeah
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[ __ ] goodbye that's good all right you committed every chair turns around so uh I started singing an
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episode of The Voice and then and then Ashton jumps down
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want it and I go want it that's you have that
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background part that sounds pretty good and then he sang the rest of it
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and I go you don't get all the good parts he got both parts I think he did one and then he did one and I go no no
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no that's me that's all I have left because now he's doing both the chorus and the other parts of they're called
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whole song I've heard this at the end I gave him a week high five
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my mom was like he [ __ ] you too I don't know if that's true but in karaoke
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being being kind of selfish like that it's called doing a Kushner I don't know if it travels but it's called yeah doing
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it doing it no he's good the thing about great about Ashton we're talking about willpower oh
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oh I know we saw it we sort of drifted off but one idea when I think of Will Forte I think of Ashton Kutcher no
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Ashton my mom said In fairness we all were staring at Ashton so no one cares if you're saying and I go I get it Will
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Forte folks Ashton kutchner oh no 2040 right just in there that was good
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yeah we got an Ashton plugs no it actually comes up Ashton should come on
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no he has hosted because he said to the cast he goes guys
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um I know I'm really good looking but I have hardly any Talent so I'm just gonna make as much money as I can and he's
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assumed did he say that yeah and he's a super investor I mean he's like he gave everyone when he left a hundred shares
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of apple as a party gift [Music]
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you know what will did once Dana you won't believe this because I would never [ __ ] didn't you shave your side of
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your head I did it was for work it was for work I know but it's cool I don't think I could have done it
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because I've never been in a job where they didn't want me to look the exact same and be the exact same as the movie
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before I mean with the moon with Sean Penn and
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oh in 1982 or something and we're I'm in the trailer and I'm
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gonna play this kind of wounded insane Soldier and they're just giving me this crazy military buzz cut right whoa so
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then Sean Penn comes in he's also in the military but he's got this little pompadour or anything what why did Sean
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get this cool that's the greatest haircut I've ever seen and I'm just you know and I had to call him the name of
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his character I thought that was hip anyway quick story this podcast is primarily about me and so just want to give you a
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heads up on that so well
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you have a baby and you you're how are you I'm I'm doing great I uh have a baby
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just got just got married we got engaged you married your baby I married my baby
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I I think I'm hearing it wrong she's my baby yeah she's been uh no no she's so
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it's got mirror it got engaged the Christmas the Christmas day right before
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the pandemic set in and then then during the pandemic we're kind of waiting to
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figure out when to get married the baby popped up the baby which is part of the plan eventually popped up a
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little earlier than we thought and then uh that we just got married when we were out shooting mcgruber we kind of
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realized that all our family was going to come in town to visit so we said let's surprise them and get married let
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me ask you a question because David's been married a few times I've only been married once but
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um it's kind of it is sort of that unless someone's completely cynical
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there is something like referring to I know John Mulaney did a bit about but my wife and my husband and the the clarity
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and the finality of a wedding ring and here we are I mean how do you feel
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it's crazy because you you feel very married uh
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uh and uh especially when you have a baby it's like oh we're this is this is
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but there's still something really fun about the the wearing the ring I said that that uh it's still kind of fun to
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say wife now uh yeah it's just it's it's for some reason they're the weirdest uh
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part of it was when I would say fiance it was just weird to say Beyonce because it was it was open-ended I was for years
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when I would make love with my uh partner my wife I would you know that would be my sex word wife I'm having
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your wife no I made this up it's your favorite into a sketch oh please and
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make it brilliant no I'm telling you I'm the one that has been married the most and I uh I think there is something cool
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about that I I get it I get it you just know it you know what it is yes you want you it's like one of laurenisms
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and sometimes I don't know if he makes him up or he invents them oh marriage is a prison that everyone's trying to
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escape into but then you you never heard that one
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I've never heard that uh brilliant right but then you're so happy that you you have this parameter in this area that
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you work from and then you kind of all this lovey-dovey stuff keeps coming up flowing forward and you know my family I
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got to get my family I'm taking my daughter here and my wife's meeting me there anyway I'm trying to get Spade
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married so I'm trying you know I will say I heard the Ops this is what I heard from my dad and it should be on a
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t-shirt this is my dad because they had a crummy marriage and a ugly divorce but he said two things
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marriage is the only game that two can play and both can lose and then he said which is very nice so
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your kid when your mom's right there and then he said the [ __ ] you're getting is not worth the [ __ ] you're getting
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and I'm like can I just go to preschool you had you had a good Mentor I mean I I like I know it sounds funny but I like
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that stuff I mean yeah that's very honest I think that um but I still wouldn't mind getting married
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well is your wife would you say your wife is sweet and kind and essentially
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as just good values and a sense of humor that'd be the four yeah yeah she saw
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those things she's she uh she has a tremendous amount of patience which is uh something that I basically need in a
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in a partner because I'm um yeah yeah exactly yeah but she's she's
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uh wonderful and and she's a great mom which is uh and she's a uh she's just I
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I really got lucky because she she was just I was super on board with
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everything very in love with her and then found out she was a great a great cook she's just coming in she's just
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somehow On Cue can we make her up hello hi there she is she's going she's there
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she is that's Olivia yes congratulations
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on your family we've heard all about you for the last nine years
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sorry now gorgeous oh now I can't it's still just trapped in fun
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[Music] nice to meet you
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and yeah she she just she exudes niceness and
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sweetness and then she's very nice um her mom is in town right now we're
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doing the and and I and man I've scored in that department too she's got a family I like hanging out with and and
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uh uh just every everything is great everything is is fantastic okay so
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that's that's kind of cool I just wanted to ask about that because that's a big experience you know it's like okay
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where are you where are you guys from because Dana I know you're in Northern California right now right because
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that's where I actually have a town home in West Hollywood where I am right now so but I have my house in Mill Valley
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but I spend a lot of time down here and I remember you're a bay area from no
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belly are you are you from my wife group my wife grew up there okay I grew up in San Carlos down in the peninsula
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yeah Lafayette and Moraga uh until I went down to UCLA in 88 so
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I love it up there that's that's always where I wanted to end up so just quickly
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because I did this for like a half hour with Tom Hanks and I got in trouble but uh did you have a favorite uh gift as a
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kid like it could be a bike or an instrument when you were like you know between five and ten I'm always just
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curious about you as a kid I would say the thing that first jumped out to me
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was uh Stretch Armstrong [ __ ] yeah okay I love that that was Unreal but it was
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it was that was like a Gumby but as a soldier and it was a workout Gumby
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it was yeah and you'd pulled the thing until the arms would come out and there was like a it was from what I remember
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kind of like a sappy blood it was it was red red colored whatever was inside it
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making it you know gooey it was and I think it's always fun that the character's name is exactly they do
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you know his name isn't much going on if you look at the toys one day like the oldest charm song I had one you just
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pull it and it gets a little longer and then it goes back and you're like yay I don't know but it was [ __ ] great I
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loved it I don't know yeah one of my first stand-up bits when I couldn't write anything so I just go
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to toy stores and get props because I couldn't think of a joke but I wanted to be a comedian I had a Gumby on stage I'd
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hold it up and I'd take it out of a bag put it up against the mic I'd pull its
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legs apart and just and just make the sound like ah like I was torturing Hey
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You Gotta Laugh I did I did stuff like you did but in my early days everything was
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avant-card by the way let me tell you when I was looking at this we'll get around it Will's genius I'm gonna ask
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him because Dana and I were doing some digging on you we had a big argument whether you're a
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genius a huge it was like a 40 minute no we uh we were looking and the funniest thing I saw on one of these Pages was uh
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you know it says like trivia about you and it says Forte's humor has been described as
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bizarre Porky last night and my wife was over my
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shoulder and she just looked very quickly and she goes now now that's funny thanks honey
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yeah I watched uh we watched different things last night but go ahead well sorry we were giving you confidence we
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were inching into it no I I this is it is crazy to hear you guys saying stuff
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like this because I'll be honest I was a little nervous coming on here I I I'm
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such big fans of beer guys that that I get that I was like oh I hope I don't clam up around them and David I've I've
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seen news so many times Dana I only met you once at the SNL 40th but that was
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fun uh you know I just I have such tremendous respect for you guys and and
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love you guys you you're Heroes so I would be as a as a as an attorney I
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would make the case in a courtroom for that you have a lane that's so specific and I don't think anyone occupied it in
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quite the same way the potato chip I'm just going with you and sedek is the potato chip NASA thing
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Jon Hamm sex offender uh the spelling bee thing and then the dance
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where Peyton Manning ended up dancing and McGrew her sensitive sensitive you train if if anyone's listening wants to
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see what I mean those are pretty good representation that's a real nice assortment pack I had to dig on a Peyton
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Manning one to go to Vimeo because YouTube wouldn't show it so I had to get into a Vimeo situation oh yeah I think
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it's because of the song If there's you know the song that it kicks it out oh they kicked it up
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certain sites because it doesn't want to you know pay for the song to be heard
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over and over again just because we may not get to this later I just wanted to ask very quickly about mcgruber and
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Richard Dean Anderson because I've been watching with one of my sons who's a Sci-Fi fanatic we're watching Stargate
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and there's 220 episodes so I become a super fan of Richard Dean Anderson yeah
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and then I know we did that commercial with you and he was on SNL just seems like an incredibly nice guy anyway I
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just wanted to bring him up so I could tell my son the knife this guy because we we uh we had been doing mcgruber's
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for a while and then we got a chance to do a Super Bowl commercial which uh uh
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like Pepsi had approached Lauren and said hey do you want to take an SNL
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sketch and turned into a commercial and somehow he picked mcgruber and then when he told Pepsi that that mcgruber was
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what he wanted to go with they quickly bowed out said well you know what maybe we don't want to do a Super Bowl
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commercial so Lauren said you know what let's keep making this thing and just
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make it good enough that they'll wanna they'll want to do it so we said all right and and rallied the troops and we
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did it and brought Richard Dean Anderson in and we decided because there was no guarantee that this was gonna go
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anywhere we would make uh a sketch for the show at the same time so he we got
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to hang around with him uh for a whole day once and he was so cool and he
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talked about uh this is way before the the movie came about so we talked about
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all about how he had been watching uh the magrubers with his 10 year old uh
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daughter and that and it was very sweet and then and then after the movie came
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out it took a pretty hard turn into very dirty territory and uh I don't I don't
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think they watched that one together you know I have two I have two questions
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one is just a statement that my first year of SNL I think I was on about a year and a half and I was making 1500 a
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show or a week and then I got out of the blue got offered a Diet Pepsi Super Bowl commercial and I was so excited and my
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manager gervitz Dana and I'm the same guy he goes still gotta run it by Lauren and I go what does Lauren give a [ __ ] so
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I go okay tell him and he goes yeah sorry he said no I go no what I didn't know that was possible like he said no
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to my it's not no not time not now and I go I think it was 250 Grand I was like
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Bubba I have to anyway so that that was a bummer and then the other thing is I
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my assistant sounds so Richie Rich but this girl that works with me was I've known her forever
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and she's like a fake assistant because she was just like we were friends but she would help me with stuff so she
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started dating Richard and um and so I would see him here and there and then
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she got pregnant and then that daughter is Wiley I think and then that I know
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her so I know his daughter and yeah okay I know him because I see him through her so they didn't get married but they had
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this great daughter and uh I had seen a few times and he was a [ __ ] cool dude and I knew what you guys were doing that thing and I'm like this is like
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flattering it's cool to be part of that whole thing oh yeah I mean this was you know
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mcgruber would not exist without MacGyver he was cool everyone thought he was cool this girl oh yeah all the girls
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are crazy about it he's in Stargate what he's doing is kind of a light leading man and the quips and the way he plays
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it is like Perfection anyway to the commercial good yeah and it's really not easy to do and I think he ad-libed a lot
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of his lines but just really good when in 1988 I think or 89 anyway Hans and
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Franz was offered just do it the campaign from Nike yeah and it was just do it we were going to start the
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campaign and then Lauren had to call me and I was going to do what you know because we we all thought we were Bob
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Dylan with the Beatles or something so you don't sell out later on later on there were you know conehead oven mix in
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the SNL store at the time it's not what we do here it's not that thing and it's like you
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know some of course but everyone learned that all the hippies grew up it's like
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the movie The Big Chill with you know uh like oh we got to get money you know it's not it's not corny to make money
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yeah um so anyway wait can I go back yeah yeah I want to hear what you have to say
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yes oh I was just gonna say uh uh when you bring up Hans and Franz uh I will
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every once in a while go hiking it's been a while but hiking with Kevin Nealon yeah do you keep in touch with
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him oh yeah yeah yeah anyone that's part of your team when you're there they're like your soldier buddies yeah yeah yeah
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but the sweetest person I've just you know I I he married uh I went through
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the grounding system with his wife Susan so so uh you know I I kind of got to
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know him later on once they were together but man what up what up
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throw away dry jokes he's so clever he just says so funny when we would do Hans
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and Franz uh and it was it was really Kevin's driving element of it that once we were on the
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phone laughing about it we were trying to create characters and when Kevin said yeah and if you don't think we could do
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this we could very easily come to your house once we knew we were never gonna lift weights we were only going to
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scream at this imaginary we're so paranoid and if you doubt us we will do this but right as we were at the music
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we're getting the we got stuff on we're on 8h we're about to start the sketch and Kevin's just being Kevin Nealon and
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then he would look at me and I swear his whole face his IQ would go down like 100 points like in a second always made me
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laugh right before we started he was just like cross his eyes or something but he instantly became incredibly
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stupid hear me now believe me later I like that one listen to something we could stretch your buttocks out you know
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you're like we could we could light you but you're lucky there's not a campfire here because your brothers are like soft like marshmallows you know that one I
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did like I didn't feel I like that one I like the humor but can we just for a
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second I don't want to lose
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that I looked at I mean can we let's take one of them or you can pick one you want to talk about yeah or just when you
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want to talk no you kick it you pick it you pick it well okay well just quickly I want to go back and turn it around and
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ask you guys yeah a couple questions that's so that's allowed this is a conversation I guess yeah okay uh John
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well this I I just mentioned a few the the sex offender thing is crazy brilliant the the spelling bee thing how
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long it went on in the multiple layers of laughs as the audience you know and then Jack Black singing at the end the
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dancing when they stood out Not only was your dancing and the coach so [ __ ] funny but then when Peyton
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Manning got up and I guess he's six four two forty and how how light on his feet
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right so Andy talk about any of those okay pick a favorite I'll go and order
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the the uh uh spelling bee was one I used to do at the ground length for
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years and years and I I uh you know probably definitely one of my
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two or three favorites of things I used to do at the ground link so I kept trying to put it up at the show and and
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I didn't get up oh no no you you you for people who who
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don't know what the process is like you put something up once you get you if it
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goes well at the table sometimes it just doesn't get picked but but you can put it up maybe a second time if it didn't
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get picked after the second time then then you just don't put it up it's a little stinky go ahead how many times I
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put it up five times oh gross okay five
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and then uh Jack Black was the final uh person and he said oh we got to do this
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so I you know we wrote him the song at the beginning but it was it was so fun
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to get to do that there because you know it just it it kind of reminds you of the long
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the long journey from Groundlings to the I don't know I think cowbell Wills cow
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the other will cowbell didn't that it it they either it got canned after the
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dress show or whatever but it took a while and then when walking came yeah it just went boom yeah I remember hearing
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that helps I'm sorry and we can't imagine another human being saying more cowbell
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better than walking I felt funny was when you said can you spell it was hilarious and then when you uh and then
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when you were doing the letters I pictured Wally or someone just holding a million cue cards just going I'm like I hope it's not one letter per card or did
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you have it memorized from the Groundlings the scary thing about that is is I
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remember going out on stage it was really in a area it was the last thing
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before the musical performance it was the Christmas show and I remembered looking down it was like it was like 12
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50 82 or something we were going out there I knew that Neil Young still had
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to perform a whole song and then they after they had to see everything you know they had to see the whole uh uh ice
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skating stuff everyone was that they wanted to shoot us down this is great inside baseball so I was like I probably
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would have gone on for another you know that was a short version anyway I was
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yeah I just was in the back of my mind I was like are they gonna give me this thing and and then you know sometimes
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every once in a while they'll cut off of a sketch like in the middle of it very
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often but but to your performance you know as someone who does this it just
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you were so patient yeah you you never pushed you never blink you never I mean
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you were so straight with it honestly you're supposed to be speeding up quietly like on the side you know the
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pressure's like get the [ __ ] off get this thing done and you're like nope is this
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sorry David to pull the rip cord a little bit and slightly wink or do something a little high pitched or try
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to get a little laugh in the middle because but you never you never waited I told the line it's like you never ever
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ever winked at all I think they know with will it's like gonna be like that go ahead
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no just for you know for sure having a chance to do that so many I I must have
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done that 40 or 50 times at the ground length so so it really
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gives you um the pacing you get a little confidence in in what what it is and and
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Clarity on on what what it is that that and I don't know if that was uh I
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mean I wouldn't I wouldn't compare it at all but Church lays kind of almost like a Vaudeville sketch but whatever but I
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I'd done it in the clubs as part of my stand-up and then the minute I Victoria
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Jackson said something and then I said well isn't that special and I got to laugh like I did in the club it did
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totally it helped really relax me
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[Music] wait dear what was your first thing you ever did on the show what what both of
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you uh what was do you remember that very first yeah it was the very first thing I came on the show with Phil
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Hartman and Jan Hooks yeah and we it was in our uh was it called very first show we were in the cold opening and I was a
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game show psychic so Phil was the game show host Jan was playing like a frumpy you know motherly character and I was
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like this uh kind of a genius like I would answer before Phil could ask the
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question so at one point I I and I was doing a Garth type character based on my brother I go meteor you know and he
00:27:00
hadn't even asked the question meteor oh no we have to ask the question you know meteor and then this giant meteor came
00:27:07
down and killed a Jan or something but that was that was my first one and
00:27:13
um I was uh levitating I mean I wasn't quite in in my body you know I mean I I
00:27:18
was oh yeah like anyone else I was playing pizza parlor I was barely it was just a stand-up in July and then
00:27:25
suddenly I'm a Saturday Night Live so tell us your your experience with your first thing on SNL mine was uh I was in
00:27:31
a a sketch it was Matt Damon was hosting and it was a sketch about Hannibal
00:27:37
Lecter in college and I was sad to say is dude I told you he was gay that's the
00:27:44
only thing I had to say and I almost couldn't terrify say the words I couldn't remember I thought coming up
00:27:50
and I'm like is my mouth are the muscles gonna remember what to do and and
00:27:55
somehow remember it was [ __ ] terrifying remember what color you were on your cue cards I used to ask for
00:28:01
green no ask for blue light I think I was green I think it was green funny you go I want this and Wally would go I
00:28:07
think Wally was there for you guys but oh yeah what do you want and I watched Farley squint is I go you're actually
00:28:14
hurting your head you're squinting sword because he doesn't he wouldn't wear his glasses and I go at some point
00:28:20
[Laughter] my first one thank you will Dana never
00:28:28
asked me questions about me Dana I've heard it down there the guy was
00:28:33
well I was brought on with uh Rob Schneider and the end of the season for four shows so I went a week ahead and
00:28:40
watched one I met you know I saw love it's and I watched just to see what it was like even though you have no idea
00:28:46
unless you're part of it I'm just watching on holy [ __ ] this moves fast and it's smaller than you think and all
00:28:51
this and so I go back and I think one of those four shows I didn't write anything that got on maybe a few update jokes and
00:28:57
then there was something about casualties of war with Michael J fox was coming out so
00:29:03
I got to do a weekend update and it went in limbo which means you're not at the desk you're somewhere else with a
00:29:09
backdrop so it looks like I'm in a jungle and so Dennis is like hey [ __ ] sputtly right and now we're going out
00:29:14
with Mike fox or whatever catches his war and I'm in an army uniform like hey Sarge you gotta give me a minute on this
00:29:21
here you know perfect anyway I do it and then he goes
00:29:27
thanks Sam Mike Fox and then and then they go and Kenny Amon bless his heart I
00:29:33
love Kenny they forgot to put my card at the beginning it was just a card saying featuring and you wouldn't be in the
00:29:40
show I wouldn't have my name at the beginning unless I was in it and so when I was in it I get paid at 1500 bucks and they
00:29:47
give me featuring up front and David's featuring David's face but they forgot and so people thought it was Dana or
00:29:53
Mike Myers
00:30:04
Dane and Mike heard about it and Dennis is like they [ __ ] you guy
00:30:09
Christopher your first time was your first time on camera was like toward the
00:30:14
end of the whole thing yeah it was like second last show came in late in the season you know it was staggered in and then comes in the beginning
00:30:21
sedakis was the same thing had been a writer for a while and then was you know one of the last couple shows of his
00:30:27
second season of the pigs yeah I was at the beginning I came in uh 2002 with uh
00:30:32
Fred armis okay okay so yeah you were the normal beginning I don't know if you want to talk about if you've already
00:30:39
talked about this but I do think it's funny when I that you you were had you had you were writing
00:30:45
for Bonnie and Terry Turner basically you had nice Network TV jobs Third Rock oh that was for Bonnie and Terry Turner
00:30:52
who wrote in that movie that I was in Dana Brady Bunch no that was Tommy Boy me boy
00:30:59
yeah they were great so then when you when you auditioned for SNL apparently you weren't as nervous as you normally
00:31:06
would have been because you kind of had this other job and I guess you were swearing or you did what was your
00:31:12
audition process like were you really nervous or were you Cavalier because you were on the fence about taking the job
00:31:17
or is that all just Wikipedia stuff there there was an element of it that I
00:31:23
was not nervous for I was doing a growling show during the Hiatus uh I was
00:31:28
working at 70 show at the time uh and so I did did a series of grounding shows uh during that Hiatus
00:31:36
period and Lauren came to one of those shows and that was where I was super loose and because like I had a job and I
00:31:43
knew that I couldn't do anything I mean and I also thought like oh they'd never like all right kind of well I'm too busy
00:31:49
to do SNL yeah well just like I'm contractually obligated to this other
00:31:54
job that I love and and and also like you know they're not going to like me
00:32:00
I've got no chance anyway I'm a an acquired taste and Europe so did you
00:32:05
destroy did you destroy that night by the way I did I had this sketch that
00:32:11
went so well it was crazy you know with the Groundlings uh uh when you're in the
00:32:16
main stage show you'll do us uh you'll have an opening of a show and that was the opening of this show and then you'll
00:32:22
do the show for two or three months and this sketch went so well and then bombed every other time that I ever did it it
00:32:30
was just somehow meant to be it I I I
00:32:35
just got really tired exactly no but then I went to so they
00:32:41
asked me to audition and then I was terrified yeah go in there I I it was
00:32:47
the scariest were you guys nervous to audition well were you in 8h kind of
00:32:52
doing that or where was your other audition okay uh no the first thing was that the ground link so what okay what
00:32:59
Lauren came to was just a our set groundling show nobody knew that Lauren
00:33:04
was coming it wasn't it wasn't a an SNL showcase they just happened to show up on this night he wore a mustache hello
00:33:11
just me yeah did he bring uh any kind of movie star because I he had Cher when he
00:33:17
saw me and with Melanie Hutzel he had Quincy Jones yeah I was a little Club on the west side and Lauren walked in and
00:33:24
then Cher walked in and the head of the NBC Network at the time Brandon tartikoff
00:33:30
that's crazy did you know he was supposed to come uh I was told and that's why I was able
00:33:38
to get it to this little Club because I'd done the whole cattle call at The Comedy Store a couple times 20 comedians
00:33:43
doing five minutes no MC just one after the other and I followed Sam Kennison at
00:33:48
midnight he levitated the room literally there was structural damage to the to the room and then no one ever got my
00:33:55
name right and now Dana garno very I'm not kidding often Dana it was always
00:34:00
Dana and then Garvey Dana Garvey so then I just complete Dead Silence isn't that
00:34:05
special so then Lauren's coming back around so I
00:34:11
wanted to go play this comedy club with a hundred people in it that was a normal audience and Rosie O'Donnell was
00:34:16
headlining that week I didn't even know her and she agreed because I was bringing Lauren and I met her there and
00:34:22
I she seemed like she was like so worldly and confident you know so I said maybe I should go on first so I went on
00:34:29
first but I had four minutes she's great and I thank her for this uh 40 minutes
00:34:35
instead of five and that's kind of and then I auditioned later at a studio that's a whole other story wait a second
00:34:40
you were supposed to do five you did 40. no this was a regular comedy club so I just squeezed in and did oh yeah oh yeah
00:34:48
and then Rosie closed and we had an MC so that that's why I got the show if I'd done five minutes no way because
00:34:54
everyone goes so we can tell if they're funny even if they're not getting laughs I know if they're funny [ __ ] you no you
00:35:00
don't no you don't they got here so then when you go and do uh the audition was
00:35:06
it the same process I assume it was the same thing do a couple characters do a couple impersonations
00:35:12
um did you ever go into 8h Dana no I did that in LA and I did it you know like 10
00:35:19
people were there and and Jim Carrey went up and and Phil went up and uh and
00:35:26
they had a given point I ran out of stuff and Lord do you have anything else is there anything else you have besides
00:35:33
oh I'm sickening no but I realized later at least I thought I've never asked
00:35:38
Lauren were you testing my nerves did you want to see if you could handle the
00:35:43
pressure but uh then I had a little thing called Chop and broccoli you mind if I play the piano did you play Josh
00:35:52
I did of course
00:36:03
you know what chopping broccoli is to me it's one of those ones where I think I'm
00:36:09
the only one that likes it I go this is so [ __ ] funny I bet no one gets it and then everyone else is like chopping
00:36:15
broccoli's the funniest thing he does oh it is one of the all-time classics yeah
00:36:21
I know I thought I found here with my own ears you saying that in a story that
00:36:28
uh you're you're telling to me and David yeah
00:36:33
yeah it's so stupid odd shows and theaters in the round and
00:36:39
someone will also hit my back and it's a stock of broccoli like people being brought me in his throne and you know
00:36:44
you're cute you're like chopping baka chop but I think Lauren liked it because
00:36:50
it's the it's the idea of someone running out of uh creative you know getting all this money and success and
00:36:56
then essentially phoning it in you know and you're like she's like what was behind it but anyway let's get back to
00:37:02
it I have another question yes will
00:37:13
Foreigner oh you're like I would never do no offense
00:37:19
um but will you wrote for Letterman and my only question for that is I actually have a couple but I would say
00:37:26
is it true that you don't see Letterman much or see him at all when you write for him
00:37:31
uh yes that's true yeah I mean it's it's I came in I was a lower level writer
00:37:39
never made it past the lower level I was only there for about nine months um Letterman was you know one of my uh
00:37:47
comedy sensibility growing up yeah and we all revealed to go there David but I
00:37:53
just wasn't as good at writing for him as I thought I would be I thought it'd
00:37:58
be this natural match and I still like he's still one of my all-time Heroes but but uh yeah I barely you would see him
00:38:06
if you had written something that was there was going to be a pre-tape on and you had to go out on
00:38:13
the shoot or or if you're like a department head or you know you had to run stuff by him you'd go down or if you
00:38:19
walked a long way down the hallway exactly you're running oh oh I never talked to him as a guest did you talk to
00:38:24
him as a guest either I did I I went back on there twice uh
00:38:30
uh oh no no but you did a show though you did a show as a as a guest you mean behind the scenes you know behind the
00:38:37
scenes No I don't think I ever talked to him it was always just on air which is I got why he wanted it to be like that did
00:38:44
that too a second I thought you were a thing you had never been on the show I thought you said he went on the show and
00:38:49
then didn't talk to Letterman I'm like on the show you didn't no that's weird
00:38:57
yeah so well
00:39:02
is this over are we starting no I wanna can we let's see the sex offender one
00:39:09
that's another one oh that one so so the sex offender one Colin Jost wrote that I
00:39:16
got the good fortune of being in in uh in in that one because I you know uh for
00:39:21
some reason he thought of me when he thought sex offender and you can just play off kilter
00:39:28
I I it would seem like perfect casting if you didn't write it was Jon Hamm and you were a a creepy but awkward weird
00:39:35
and it was that Colin's thing just a few like but that's not me that's you what
00:39:41
that catchphrase was that I basically did exactly as he wrote it
00:39:48
like he just would you just do that catchphrase for a second what
00:39:54
what what but yeah there was something that happened but I'm not you you're not me yeah anyway so the witch so it's yeah
00:40:02
so it's a guy going up to to trick or treat and he's dressed as a sex offender
00:40:08
and he's as part he's so somebody's like wait are you a sex offender and it's
00:40:13
like no no I'm dressed as a sex offender and then and then it comes out that he does have a form for the people to sign
00:40:21
acknowledging that he's moving into the neighborhood and then it's like wait a minute part of the costume like that's
00:40:29
like yeah part of the costume who was who in the sketch Jon Hamm was the guy who I was trying to
00:40:36
get to who played it to sign the form man yeah have you ever had have you ever had the host go I like your part better
00:40:42
let's switch
00:40:49
what happened tell the whole story sorry I'm subtly interesting
00:40:55
um everyone does Hollands in front I did uh actually that's actually sort of
00:41:00
interesting story excited it was a sketch where I played a receptionist and I would say oh and you are and you are and this is regarding and it was one of
00:41:08
the ones that was hard to get on yeah I had put it through read two and I couldn't get it on but they thought it was kind of a funny
00:41:15
idea it wasn't just a straight set up punch line it was more of an attitude so Lauren like that and even Downey liked
00:41:22
it which helps and uh I don't think Frank it was the receptionist you have trouble getting past yeah yeah he
00:41:27
stopped you because he thinks they're better than you something like that and uh so Bowie was the guest as music with
00:41:35
tin machine so I wrote it with Bowie coming in and then uh they sent it to his hotel Marcy
00:41:42
Klein said uh Hey Bowie wants to call you there's a message in my little we had mailboxes back then and you pull it
00:41:49
out from NBC and it says David Bowie this hotel this fake name column as soon as possible I was like oh my god did
00:41:55
they send it to him I just put him in I didn't put in read through I don't think because he wasn't there and so I called
00:42:02
him any answers and it's [ __ ] Bowie and I'm like hey man and he's like this is
00:42:08
so [ __ ] funny this is the this is so it's exactly my life and these people I see and he goes one tweak can I play the
00:42:15
receptionist and he goes That's the funnier part and I go oh well because I mean I just come
00:42:22
in as David Bowie it's kind of boring everyone's seen that it's [ __ ] stupid and I go he goes you could play me
00:42:27
and I go I mean I could and I said I said no you said no the [ __ ] meals he
00:42:36
asked to play the church lady I just put my foot down I said Neil I'm sorry man I
00:42:41
love you like a brother no but literally you said no to him I am the most colossal [ __ ] ask anyone and I was like
00:42:47
I just can't I go you know how it's like [ __ ] like a like a character like
00:42:52
Wayne's Wayne's World or something like you want to do it again and he goes yeah yeah okay sure and he was not rude he
00:42:59
was just like uh that's a point okay well playing myself is isn't that fun you know whatever and I go I get it he
00:43:05
goes okay all good and then the rest of the week I wasn't in the show and I was like [ __ ] and then I'd see Bowie and
00:43:11
he's like Anyway Gene Genie yeah and so I got and then at good nights he
00:43:18
said hey sorry man I kind of I I I I get what was going on and I shouldn't have been like a little Chiller really wow
00:43:25
now it's like a sweet full circle I used to see him I saw him um he was at my
00:43:30
young comedian special in the audience when Dennis hosted in the audience and watching and then I
00:43:35
saw him with Bobcat I went to his house so I'd see him I think before that just briefly so it wasn't too terrifying it
00:43:42
was still weird to call him but to shut him down and then and then after that and then never go you might and he goes
00:43:49
well what if the sketch never gets on I'm like God how do you know the show this well it's so true
00:43:55
what if it doesn't get on I'm [ __ ] blowing and he's like it'll get on if I do it I said it before but I ran into
00:44:01
him and Jagger with Dennis and Lovitz at the Jesus cafe after the show and oh there's there's Bowie and Jagger she's
00:44:09
saying Jagger smoking a joint the Columbus catfish Planet he says we're very we're very famous you know and then
00:44:16
Jagger kind of liked the girls with Dennis or whatever but then we we went
00:44:21
downtown with Bowie to a disco type place he showed us how to plant your
00:44:27
left foot and do a spin so here's another one off a genius like in his own
00:44:33
lane main Miracle of talent just wanted to throw that in there for the fans like
00:44:38
when Corey Feldman was at cantors I walked right up to him those are that is basically my level of
00:44:46
story I told Urkel listen buddy all right sorry no believe me those those
00:44:51
things here you know you know when you're in SNL some people come to the show you walk by and you go like at the 40th I was shocked I was saying to Dana
00:44:59
like for once I almost felt comfortable talking to people that are out of my range because they were uh they were on
00:45:06
my turf for once and it was like it is
00:45:12
that year was when the movie Nebraska came out and oh my God I forgot about
00:45:17
that congratulations I somehow got to got to be a part of that movie it's I still have no idea how
00:45:25
and then got to go to the Oscars because it was nominated and that was the same
00:45:30
year of the 40th 40th yeah and the 40th was way cooler than the Oscars uh yeah I
00:45:38
mean it was but it was you know like the Oscars I feel like I have no business being there and then you know and and
00:45:45
and then I'm at the 40th and I did feel a little bit of ownership like hey I'm a part of this thing and and even you know
00:45:52
and I've still you know bowed down to all you guys you I mean just you guys
00:45:58
were the ones who paved the way for all of us you know down the road so I so I
00:46:03
was still so so nervous around you guys and Dana I remember I'll always remember
00:46:09
this moment we we got to meet at the after party for the first time and then
00:46:14
we're talking for a while and somebody's playing a Prince song in the background and and I'm not really paying attention
00:46:21
because I'm just you know very excited to talk to you and then after a while there's like they're you know this
00:46:28
person is playing a couple Prince songs and then after a while you're realizing oh this isn't somebody playing this song
00:46:34
this is Prince playing Prince song that was so bad so we we both kind of realized oh maybe we should go into this
00:46:41
room because we were I don't know 20 yards away from this Ballroom where Prince had just been ripping it up for
00:46:48
it was like that one was up there and everybody got up and jammed it was everywhere you look someone was famous
00:46:54
yeah it was a throbbing two plus ones let's keep it famous I remember talking
00:47:01
with Glenn and close in Sigourney Weaver and they were just seem like two nice women they probably feel out of place
00:47:06
too you know because well everyone everyone shrinks down a little bit except if you're Paul McCartney or
00:47:12
something you know just you're you know you're no matter where you are you're like I'm the [ __ ] King but I talked to Billy Crystal everyone seems smaller
00:47:18
and but in the same time if you're a veteran of it and I I hate military analogies because it's not but in the
00:47:24
pantheon of Show Business you know there's that little like oh you were there you know what it's like to you
00:47:31
know have cottonmouth and have to do a sketch or fall down or the cue cards are torn in half or someone throws up on you
00:47:37
so that is cool you could talk to anyone about SNL like we're doing we call
00:47:42
anybody and when they talk you know immediately even if you weren't there with them you go oh is this kind of the
00:47:48
same way when you go back by the page test like yep everything's the same it's all the same oh I like that I love that
00:47:54
oh yeah oh yeah everything's I mean it's a shorthand did you have a celebrity person that you
00:48:01
were most uh excited to meet over over those Seasons or kind of StarStruck or just someone that was sort of a thrill
00:48:07
to because I got to sit with Willie Nelson wants to sing with him and have him learn a song you know that was like
00:48:13
I remember thinking this is an SNL type moment this is weird it's happening to me I I was it took me several years to
00:48:21
to relax I mean it was it was very interesting uh coming in with Fred Armisen because Fred was the exact
00:48:28
opposite he seemed just so immediately ready to perform and so excited to get
00:48:33
up on stage and I I was I was just terrified from week to week and I would enjoy it as I looked back on it
00:48:40
that I oh yeah he's fantastic and but then the you know the Summers would come he couldn't wait for the summer to end
00:48:47
and get back to the next season I get so stressed and like July I'm like
00:48:54
it's coming and I load up my one sketch ready and then I go I'm ready this year
00:49:00
and I got one the week two I'm like what the [ __ ] if I have nothing I'm sober oh yeah and you go in you you go to the
00:49:07
final show in May and you're like I'm gonna spend every day just just like a half hour thinking up ideas I might not
00:49:13
even turn them into full sketches but I'm going to come in with so many ideas and and you know you of course don't do
00:49:18
any of that I would call Marcy and go who's the host who's the host who have you booked yet you know just to get a head start
00:49:24
I think it was my second season the cast was in 8h and we had these reporters there like a little press conference uh
00:49:32
do you have any new characters I said I don't but I have a new catchphrase which was uh I got that got that got that got
00:49:38
to go and they took it through it was in the New York Post and stuff like it was a thing they didn't real and then Jan
00:49:44
was my sidekick funny little poopy head was my name and her name was Mrs funny little poopy head and she I'd go I got
00:49:50
to got to got to go and she would say and I'm gonna go on with them and they they took it they thought it was they
00:49:56
thought it was catch phrases are decided by the audience basically they but I I'm with you guys I feel like it's a
00:50:01
gathering storm in a sense a sense of anxiety when The Season's starting and how will you do it never left me I think
00:50:08
I kind I think I was pretty good the last 30 shows I think the first hundred was still trying to get really relaxed
00:50:16
but I think what happens is the audience discovers you and you get more relaxed and it kind of Builds on itself you see
00:50:22
it with a new cast member because it probably at some point will when the audience saw you come in and knew your
00:50:27
sensibility like by the time the Halloween thing came in it seemed like the audience saw you and just went oh
00:50:33
it's will we love him I mean it gets relaxing at that point right certainly I think there's a point when that happens
00:50:39
but but my point happened a little bit later because my the stuff I would write would be so weird it would always be the
00:50:45
stuff toward the end of the show so so it just took longer I mean I think there are some people after I left the show
00:50:52
that just didn't know that left the show because they had never really seen me that much in the show anyway well Dana
00:50:59
was saying a nice compliment to you that uh oh no I'm thinking of someone else no he was saying a nice comment about you
00:51:05
where he said uh you you know because you have sort of a different vibe so
00:51:10
when you go out there first of all what I would say is people know it's coming so when you're doing a bit they're like this bit is going to go sideways in a
00:51:16
weird way where it's not the predictable structure which is good you know might go zigzag where you don't see it coming
00:51:23
and then also he said you remind him of a little bit of Jack Handy which I think is a gene I think we both do me oh my
00:51:29
God that's a huge comment and being like we'd see him in read through and he's so quiet sitting in the corner and he's kind of giggling he's got little glasses
00:51:35
and then they go uh impending doom or whatever it was some sketch and it was so [ __ ] bananas and we're all like
00:51:42
God damn I'm gonna quit writing because I I don't even know what he's doing everything is funny and it's so weird my
00:51:48
first one was me and Kevin were like there was a launch pad with a rocket and we were the guys with the binoculars and
00:51:53
like okay a uh 10 9 8 and then Lassie would wander underneath the rocket oh
00:51:58
wait hold on you know and then it was then it was Hitler okay we're going and then it was uh Hitler holding the Mona
00:52:06
Lisa and Lassie it was just you know just so brilliant
00:52:12
so you have a thing where you got a little you got a different vibe which is good to have
00:52:17
oh man well I mean talk about that dance you did when you were here
00:52:22
like how did you come up with how funny that dance was well he didn't even describe it so so the dance uh do you
00:52:31
guys know John Lutz Lutz was in the show 30 Rock he played one of the writers John Lutz so he was a writer on the on
00:52:39
the show SNL and and then uh and now he writes for Seth Meyers but he was he
00:52:45
came to me and he had that uh song Casino Royale and said we got to do
00:52:51
something with this song and I had had this idea this was also back from the Groundlings of just a a coach who wanted
00:52:59
to give a motivational speech and use something really stupid as the motivation so we married those two
00:53:06
together we wrote the whole sketch the dance was not even part of it the dance
00:53:11
it was just like I was gonna listen to the song yeah for a long time and right right as we're about to do the sketch I
00:53:18
think it was right before the table read he said hey why don't you dance during the song just start dancing just so
00:53:25
people don't get bored during the song and I said yeah you're probably right that's probably a good idea so that was a total afterthought
00:53:33
um and then and then when we did it throughout the week I I'm sure you guys are are it it was never quite I mean it
00:53:41
was it was the idea that we loved but it just wasn't hitting for some reason and
00:53:48
and uh Lauren even said it was it went well enough and dressed rehearsal that
00:53:53
he said you know he put it in the show but he did say you should cut down on the uh the dance a little bit and then
00:54:00
for some reason this was you know most of the time so many times you'll do the best version of the sketch at dress
00:54:06
rehearsal and then yeah this was like one of the only times that
00:54:12
I that that the sketch actually was the best version and it was just like a
00:54:18
straight up Arc and and somehow the the dance just uh the dance moves were
00:54:24
flowing like wine and and uh nice and crisp and and I I was so excited by how
00:54:29
it went I I went longer than I was supposed to but I think he was fine because I you know the team was not into to it they were
00:54:37
playing it very real and disappointed and then your exuberance and what I would I refer to that as funny with the
00:54:43
sound off you know I I'm sure there's other ways to put it to physical comedy but cool funny with the sound off means
00:54:49
the audience is not listening for a punch line or anything they have permission to just really laugh hard it's the I Love Lucy and the grapes and
00:54:56
or the chocolates and when I did massive headmoon Harry on the air show
00:55:02
with the dog and you know I'm working with an animal going crazy and that was just the longest laugh I'd ever got
00:55:09
because they knew what I was in and I did not want the prosthetic to fly off because then that would be that
00:55:14
secondary joke and the sketch would work so well so I was just decided to hold it and then the dog went to town so it was
00:55:21
funny this sounds that's that's two what you were doing dancing like that was that kind of thing like I just get to
00:55:27
really laugh you know hang on by the way that doll after that sketch bill as I was right next to I mean uh what'd I say
00:55:34
Phil well I was right next to the stage and the dog walked by and he goes follow that [ __ ] I go Jesus Christ this
00:55:41
dog's gonna be a cast member well they put more goo on the mat on the yeah
00:55:48
very smuggly trick or something to put all this extra stuff you know you'll have fun out there that was one of the
00:55:54
hardest kills Michael wrote that I'm not sure if it was a was maybe Schneider I'm
00:56:00
not sure I don't want to say because I'm not sure if it was a group effort but I was a a participant in that as the
00:56:07
through line and just lucky to be in the sketch oh you're in the right [ __ ] place I was yeah sometimes they just are
00:56:13
get Pennies from how that was it yeah it was great that was one of the all-time great we
00:56:20
were talking about the wheel and then we went into that no I love it
00:56:25
L talk is funny I like it all my sound went out for a second all-time what
00:56:31
you know I had a glitch it's a Wi-Fi issue uh no it's a it's a it's such a
00:56:37
mutual a mutual thing um have you ever heard people think you're weird or stuff because I had it once at SNL like
00:56:44
literally maybe slightly off or perverted or something's wrong with you oh sure all the time all the time so
00:56:51
yeah tell me your experience I'll tell you my experience oh just no I well
00:56:57
especially uh during you already brought up that hairdo I had to have for last
00:57:02
man on Earth which I kind of did to myself like I I thought it'd be a fun idea so and then I had to have it for a
00:57:10
month so you'd be walking along you know most of the time it was such a crazy work schedule that I would just be kind
00:57:16
of going back and forth to work but every once in a while you gotta go to the store you gotta do [ __ ] rounds yeah exactly yeah so it's people people
00:57:25
people already kind of thought were were nervous by the length of the beard before I had to shave off half of it
00:57:32
yeah so and then what homeless thing it was half it was directly down the middle of your face one side was like long hair
00:57:38
and a long beard right yeah but one total hairiness uh like the
00:57:45
brawny brawny guy yeah well Brian guy plus a year of hair growth and then the other side's completely uh right down
00:57:51
the middle completely shaved uh eyebrow gone eyebrows oh yeah oh yeah Dad I had said
00:58:00
okay yeah we saved it on a Sunday afternoon and and I was everyone was
00:58:08
warning me about the eyebrow but then I sent a picture to my dad just to say hey look at that look what your son is uh
00:58:14
looking like right now and he said oh you're keeping the eyebrow huh that's a great dad voice yeah no he is
00:58:22
so I had to oh because you had to commit all the way um daddy daddy said to shave the
00:58:27
eyebrows I love it I love that mine's not quite like that it was just it was
00:58:32
uh involves Steve Martin and it very quickly I I church lady would say penis
00:58:38
a lot when I was doing the clubs and then the censorship Guy Mr clockworthy said she can't can't say penis so much
00:58:43
so then I started to write your naughty bulbous area and you're willing and throbbing buttocks and so I was in read
00:58:50
through and Steve Martin was three feet away and I'm just digging into and he's next to Lauren I'm digging into the the
00:58:57
church lady because it was early days with the character and you're naughty bulbous and your your wickets this
00:59:02
throbbing member is going you know and I was getting into it and I heard Steve say to Lauren under his breath what kind
00:59:09
of mind thinks of it Steve one of our baby and bulbous and
00:59:16
throbbing became really pornographic compared to just saying penis and Gorge you're in
00:59:23
Gorge loaf is throbbing a little Loaf and the sentence attaboy that a boy that is so funny that
00:59:31
the guy who was in the friggin jerk and wrote I mean I love it how would he say
00:59:37
that you would think oh that's right up his ass I took it as an incredible compliment you know
00:59:45
I mean that the jerk for a year that's one of my favorite all-time movies he
00:59:51
had a kindred spirit with you with the absurdity and the weird crazy of man with the brains and yeah he was an
00:59:59
abstractionist yeah
01:00:05
what so do you know what what you brought up there I want to talk about is that this is a [ __ ] drive you crazy
01:00:11
excuse my swearing I'm sorry but it really chaps my high that that when the the the uh when when uh
01:00:19
the standards and practices would say oh you can't you can't say uh penis uh that
01:00:26
many times but you if to me it's like oh if you can say penis once on TV you could say penis for the entire 30
01:00:34
minutes why why what's like if you can say a word say it like we for last man
01:00:40
on Earth there was a a goat piss joke that sedakis had told and then and then
01:00:47
he improvised uh off the script and said goat piss again and it like made sense
01:00:53
for the story but they wouldn't let us say goat pissed second time just two
01:00:58
words two of the word pisses and it was fine to stay pissed you just couldn't say it twice it just drove me crazy yeah
01:01:07
there was ours evolved that eventually which it did it took a while to get on I think Tom Hanks was the host but it was
01:01:12
a nudist colony so we all were shirts off and we were all just commenting on each
01:01:18
other nice penis hey look at it thanks a lot and so we said it 300 times So
01:01:23
eventually uh Mr clockworthy Game up at some point that's where the eye to Andrew Brewer
01:01:29
oh Brewer was a ball buster man bro he's always like guys I'm trying to be your
01:01:34
friend here no yes and clockworthy had Buster Brown shoes and little glasses and a bow tie who was yours
01:01:42
you know what I can't remember who would uh
01:01:47
right up to us and say hey Spade I just read your weekend update you cannot do it I'm like whoa start always shocked
01:01:55
what no yeah I said [ __ ] and then he oh
01:02:01
whatever but I well you you I gotta put in [ __ ] five or ten times and go okay I'll just do three yeah it was a trick
01:02:09
yeah it's like the the politicians do this package is gonna cost 10 trillion
01:02:14
that's insane all right five trillion oh it's not so much that's that's pocket
01:02:21
change yeah and I remember during uh God my
01:02:26
standards in practice uh things that I remember much more clearly from the last man on Earth stuff there was we had
01:02:33
there was uh when I was there you couldn't have people having sex but you
01:02:40
could like you could excuse me you could have people having sex but they couldn't be moving at all so you like you
01:02:46
couldn't even tell so if Kristen Shaw and I had sex we'd have to basically say oh I'm having such great sex with you
01:02:53
currently right now yeah without moving much but then what you could do is you
01:02:59
could do the exact same thing but if you put it in the script if you put in the
01:03:04
script that you're having sex then you can't really move around at all but if
01:03:09
you just say are engaged in foreplay you could be doing the exact same thing but
01:03:14
then be moving around a little bit it was just oh so Madding all the time
01:03:19
yeah prime time now you got to go to live streaming and there's other rules now though because you know there's just
01:03:26
a lot of sensitivity put it that way oh man with uh peacock with peacock uh
01:03:33
quite risque I was about to say I saw your trailer and I'm like this looks
01:03:39
like it's going to be pretty rough on the edges oh yeah no there's it's it is essentially they let us do whatever we
01:03:47
wanted to do yeah it's very hard are um I love it is it because you pay for
01:03:53
peacock and they and so they there's like a barrier there gone yeah I guess so like we could never do it for NBC
01:04:00
right um but because it's their streaming service I guess there's uh you know the
01:04:06
fans of the movie are gonna come over and the movie was R right yeah the movie Super R and so it's it's basically the
01:04:13
same tone as the movie yeah um but yeah peacock's been awesome and and uh really
01:04:19
fun to work with and and you know none of that stuff you know we're just very excited because
01:04:26
it's it's kind of impossible to to do this character after the movie without without quite a bit of swearing and and
01:04:34
dirty dirty scenarios I like super R's actually a new rating yeah yeah I think
01:04:40
it's super hard yeah all right well good luck with that one that's gonna be [ __ ] cool and any other questions or
01:04:47
Dana what do you got anything you got any questions for us or anything we never know how to wrap up yeah we're
01:04:54
just saying we did your we did you did a good hour you're [ __ ] entertaining and it's good to dig deep and know more
01:04:59
[ __ ] what's that oh man I I guess my question is so Dana you're you are you come down
01:05:06
here from time to time because I did I did text with Kevin Nealon uh last week
01:05:11
and said hey we should go we should we haven't hiked in a long time we should we should do a hike so if you guys would
01:05:18
I I guess what I'm doing is hang out would like to get a hike on the books
01:05:24
yeah I just want to let you know my resting pulse is 39. not a joke I I hike
01:05:29
really hard because I was in track now did you run in high school or you were swimming I didn't okay I was a I was a
01:05:35
swimmer and I played football but but uh they we didn't have a hike club or else
01:05:40
I probably would have joined it I I just I was a distance Runner so I take that but if I was doing it with you and Kevin
01:05:47
we would just stroll and talk Kevin has to hold like Waters and he holds like a
01:05:52
camera in front of them he's barking out orders and he's like so
01:05:58
tell me and I'm like Kevin I can't even walk this fast I I asked him I swear to God can we do it in a parking lot I I go
01:06:04
it's just about the interview because my neck is all [ __ ] up I go I don't want to go [ __ ] Mount Everest in the Iger
01:06:10
sanction let's just walk around Kmart and he's like no I go what's the difference maybe tilt the camera we
01:06:16
think we're walking around the last time he lured me up to this real Poison Oaky
01:06:21
play like you're like he said okay and that's the one thing that I I'm very
01:06:28
allergic to poison oak so I I had to basically wear a full full body you
01:06:33
don't have to make excuses he's like you want to go to scorpion Junction no I go where Neil and tells me to go I
01:06:41
am rattlesnake Hills by the way there I go uh now Dana David and I got to go I
01:06:49
had run into Tim Meadows at uh we'd we go to the same gym and I saw him and we
01:06:55
got a little dinner together and so David came it was me and hater and Tim
01:07:00
Meadows and David and Molly Shannon came and wait there's one again that was a
01:07:06
good little mix yeah it was kind of like this getting to talk about different eras of the show and
01:07:12
just it was so much fun we should do another one of those that's true that's kind of why we're doing this podcast because it just it gets ridiculous when
01:07:19
you are fans of people and people are missing out on friends that you don't see and you wait until maybe you're at
01:07:25
some award show or the 50th this will even if I don't see you between now and the 50th I guess we're all going there
01:07:31
and then I'll go well you know just because it's coming up I mean it's kind of it's It's what it's got to be it's
01:07:38
three years or something what are you gonna wear I mean like full tuxedo or what are you guys am I gonna do Garth it
01:07:44
let's do it they better bring Vaseline and cotton swabs on that one did you say
01:07:49
that did you say that Garth is uh is uh my brother brother yeah oh if we put him
01:07:56
on the phone he would talk like this I used to do them in my stand-up act yeah I could make a nuclear weapon with the
01:08:03
paper clip that's why Garth had a stun gun and all that in Wayne's World one that was all from Brad advising me how
01:08:09
would Garth make a homemade stun gun because he was kind of a MacGyver kid Brad was oh wow that is awesome he must
01:08:18
be flattered by it or oh yeah does he like it okay he invented the first prototype of an at-home video editing
01:08:25
system called The Video Toaster with a man named Tim Jenison so we were on magazine covers together when I was
01:08:31
doing Garth and yeah it's very flattering because Garth who wouldn't want to be Garth that's a character that
01:08:37
I would like to just be him or hang out with him he's so loyal and fun and he got some points yeah yeah he's just so
01:08:44
nice he always has some pretty girl in the movie like really Garth and he's like
01:08:52
at the 40th she's goes why does he hold his jaw like that
01:08:57
and I go because because Brad always all this uh his you know his anxieties his
01:09:03
stress or something that's I guess but it is because it makes it funnier she should know she's [ __ ] hilarious
01:09:09
she's great the best of the best she is she's uh
01:09:14
certainly in the conversation there are certain people that are so good at Saturday Night Live there's no there
01:09:20
shouldn't be ratings but it's fun I'm number ten you know that are just as good as anyone's ever done it and I
01:09:26
would put Mr Will Forte in that category unless someone else comes along and does
01:09:31
does this what I'm looking at with my look at that [ __ ]
01:09:36
look at that did you see the word oh God I did all that yeah uh I don't see it
01:09:42
anymore nice to meet you Dana uh and if you ever want to do a dinner with
01:09:48
or without Dana let me know I would love that I would love that and I'll tell Kevin I would like to go for a hike with
01:09:55
you guys or a dinner yeah I okay that's fantastic I'm gonna I'll talk with him and we'll we will get
01:10:02
in touch with you and figure it out I'm here almost all the time you know you hike and then we'll I'll meet you guys for dinner
01:10:08
you guys it is such an honor to do this with you thank you for thank you come on
01:10:13
you guys are really fun freaking the best and I could ask I could ask you so
01:10:20
many more questions and will this might lead you to say no to this
01:10:27
hike and dinner but but uh no it's just a thrill I find everything to do with
01:10:33
Saturday Night Live interesting really weirdly enough only because which I say many times it's like experientially the
01:10:39
height of what you could do on planet Earth unless you're a Navy SEAL or something it's just this adrenal bizarre
01:10:46
live weird show so nothing like it that's why yeah yeah Tracy Morgan why run to him he goes hey Alum how you
01:10:53
doing Alum that's the way it looks at it part of the team all right well go about
01:10:58
your day kiss your baby and your wife in what particular order doesn't matter uh fire lumps have fun
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Episode Highlights

  • Will Forte's Eccentric Comedy
    Will Forte's unique style shines through in his sketches, showcasing his brilliant humor.
    “His comedy is so eccentric and brilliant.”
    @ 00m 47s
    August 16, 2023
  • Marriage Insights
    A humorous discussion on the nature of marriage and its complexities.
    “Marriage is a prison that everyone's trying to escape into.”
    @ 07m 43s
    August 16, 2023
  • Nervousness Around Heroes
    Will Forte shares his nerves about meeting the hosts he admires.
    “I was a little nervous coming on here.”
    @ 13m 43s
    August 16, 2023
  • First Impressions on SNL
    The excitement and nerves of performing on Saturday Night Live for the first time.
    “I was terrified, it was the scariest.”
    @ 32m 41s
    August 16, 2023
  • Chopping Broccoli's Legacy
    A discussion on the iconic sketch 'Chopping Broccoli' and its unexpected popularity.
    “Chopping broccoli's the funniest thing he does.”
    @ 36m 21s
    August 16, 2023
  • David Bowie Sketch Rejection
    A humorous moment where a writer turned down David Bowie’s request to play a character.
    “I just can't, you know how it's like...”
    @ 42m 47s
    August 16, 2023
  • SNL Moments of Anxiety
    The pressure of preparing for a new season can be overwhelming for cast members.
    “It's a gathering storm, a sense of anxiety when the season's starting.”
    @ 50m 01s
    August 16, 2023
  • The Dance That Stole the Show
    An unexpected dance during a sketch became a highlight, surprising everyone with its success.
    “The dance moves were flowing like wine and nice and crisp.”
    @ 54m 24s
    August 16, 2023
  • The Thrill of SNL
    Being part of Saturday Night Live is described as the height of experience on Earth.
    “It's like experientially the height of what you could do on planet Earth.”
    @ 01h 10m 39s
    August 16, 2023
  • Podcast Presentation of Cadence 13
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  • Eccentric Comedy00:47
  • Marriage Talk07:43
  • Nervous Auditions32:41
  • Iconic Sketch36:21
  • Bowie's Request42:47
  • SNL Anxiety50:01
  • Podcast Wrap-Up1:11:13
  • Free Podcasts1:11:20

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