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we have Bonnie and Terry Turner today on the old fly on the wall and you know my best memories with them they're
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there are two uh formidable writers on SNL that have contributed to a lot of SNL and a lot of movies we've both been
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involved with and you'll hear about that uh I remember sitting around the rewrite table the first I think husband and wife
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team there and just mixed into all the huge huge strong writers we had during
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that run yeah they were we're so glad to have them because we've had a lot of our
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great writers from SNL on the show and they were a big piece of the puzzle they wrote on Church chat for me was a
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Char they were great at that Way's World Wayne's World they were great uh they're
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just great writers they're they're down uh down toe people they they don't put
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on airs they're very sweet and extremely bright and they've had a massive career in fil as well um they did um Third Rock
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from Sun That 70s Show yeah yeah yeah and and that's coming back the '90s show right is that coming back is that the
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one yes that's coming back it's second season on Netflix they already had 10 release so they're they're still doing
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it now they're at the top of their game and uh we have a very nice conversation it's really warm and it was nice old
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friends a lot of fun uh and here they [Music]
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are something's happening I see him hey I see him I like the beer Terry thanks
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Bonnie actually helped me get on she's back in the other room getting on herself we're the only household in America where the wife knows how to work
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all this stuff can't wait till Bonnie sees my goofy hair flipping
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up that'll be the first 10 minutes hi there's Bonnie hi hi
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everybody this is like some kind of like where it's the old writer room film I'll
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I'll see you guys later and then it's decades hello hi hello this is what happen so how's the last how's the last
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40 years been for you guys no can I ask how long you two have been
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married 40 it'll be 50 years next year not that I'm counting no it's 49 uh in
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November 4041 here hey so you're like the SNL reunion
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totally 50 next year yeah we were married the same year oh crazy easy to
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keep track 83 75 75 oh 75 Oh Oh you mean the show I
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me the show on on on uh on Lauren's birthday too yeah did was Lauren did he
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marry you is he um it's that thing of like
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pronouncing you man Jim what do you think Jim do you
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think Jim should they be married should they be married what Jim Downey with his keys and all his scripts in his hand
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getting into his office his office I'll talk to you
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later but we we've we're so glad thanks for coming on because we've had Jim Downey we've had Al Franken Alan's w b
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working on uh handy we love Jack Handy of course he's
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shy which we love him but uh you guys are you let him do it let Jack do it for
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a fishing location you can get him I'm sure if you just let him be outdoors and talk about trout you know Trout's very
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interesting so he's the only one probably that isn't obsessed with chiz so it's that's that's the likable thing
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about him he doesn't yeah he's great he he he just was in his own lane on Monday
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everyone's just exhausted and he would say that he he's good in other words
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whatever he he was going to do this brilliant esoteric piece of Comedy I took a bath and it's all done and that
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was during that Monday that would be it the rest have to go to the death march of Tuesday night I
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go Jack why don't you stay up all night he goes well I'm done I why would I I finished I know so uh I don't really
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know where to start with you guys it's just that that just putting you in context you come up quite regularly when
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we talk about movies and you know and sketches but the main thing for me is
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like this trajectory and I want to talk about the greatness and our love for Jan Hooks and Phil which I feel like you two
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you had different Lanes on the show but I feel like you two wrote a lot of pieces with those two starring in them
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because they were kind of our stalwarts I was more of a dancing monkey on the side you yes but uh yeah I want to get
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to the the church side stuff but just briefly how did you get on SNL because people might be curious uh how did get
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hired as writers you make it pretty quick but it was through Jan right it was Jan yeah she got she got she was
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hired and and we she said they're looking for writers and and we said what do we do and she said write a couple of
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sketches and and um send them to Evie Murray who was Lauren's you know
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assistant at the time which we did and we didn't hear that was in October and
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we didn't hear anything until January of course right and I yeah it's waiting
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must have been great waiting for gdau and waiting for Lauren they're both both Broadway shows did you write anything
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that was actually usable once you got on there or was it just sort of in general no no I think we just it was sort to get
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the door open was all it was yeah we wrote a thing I I just all I remember is a is a like Meet the Press thing that we
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wrote that had Jean Kirkpatrick who was flirting with uh this is how long ago it
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was Kirk Patrick you remember her with Betsy Ross yeah they were making a flag
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together one day I had a Dwight Eisenhower chunk but
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anyway oh hysterical from my point of view so I'm on the show Rosie Schuster
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is assigned to me because I did the church lady my standup she helps me develop it she called it Church chat so
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she was very useful and very helpful yeah and then at some point you guys appeared like from The Plains of the
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South or something and then you immediately started writing great stuff
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for that character and and the character is kind of Vilan I don't know if she's aged well but there is a there is a
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combination to it and you guys just wrote great for church chat that whole people love that woman they love that
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woman she is still relevant as far as I think I think I think church lady could have her own podcast don't you David I
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mean she she's she's like she's so judge judgmental is forever yeah you know yeah
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doesn't get old not no it doesn't P
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patronizing than thou the whole world are sex fiends and sinners except for
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exactly short Sinners yeah I I I think she's
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wonderful well I I'd say if people ask me alltime sketches you know I think the
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one with Phil and Jan it was fairly early on you know there was a lot of religious scandals that first year Jimmy
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Swagger and stuff which also boost but knowing what I know now Lauren
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would love a character with a talk show where other cast members get to come in
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and because they were so funny and that was like a hysterical level of laughter
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very rare in 8 so speak to that that was well I think it was Janet because we
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would watch Tammy F and uh down in Atlanta all the time and and the line
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that Jan said that knocked me out I don't know who wrote it was a uh it was
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like well it came from Tammy Fay baker said it was like Devils were in a bunt pan jammed on my head and running around
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and she said and I said they were in a bun cake pan yeah and I said evil evil
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bun cake pan Devils I rebuke you is what you said and I went I don't even know
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who wrote that but I just I fell out when Jan did that line it was great and I also the mascara running down her face
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was great yeah the mar yeah and then the you know accidental because you can't plan it was never supposed to be carette
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but when they saw her putting this stuff on yeah it was great it was crazy I love that so would do you keep in touch with
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anyone on the show no no you guys smart
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yeah we've seen we've seen Al I think more than come on by the way I called Al
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a half hour ago just to just to see you know I know you guys wrote with him a
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lot and we're just friends and tried to get some scoop but um I don't really
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know really where to begin I mean when you look back on your six seven years 86
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to 93 six and a half yeah do you look back with with joy horror uh Dron I mean
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I I think it was yes no I says yes it's a great it's
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a great it was a great experience it was like being on a ball team or something you know there was just like everybody was got a chance at bat it was hard
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struggled sometimes and sometimes it was great just joy joy is fun you know when those things would hit like that you
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just be great it's it served us our time there I think at least for I can speak
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for myself um served me well in that it knocked out
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a lot of really bad habits you know when you come in as somebody who's not worked
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in that situation before or that pressure before you know and you work under that pressure and you know to the
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you work to the live broadcast it it makes you become a clearer version of
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what you meant to do in the first place you know and there's something really amazing about it being you know it's
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like I feel like everybody we were with including the two of you so much we're
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like Army Buddies you know it's like it's like I will never you know call and
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I'll come and you know and and um and I
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you know people who you when working in writer rooms later on in our
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career um it's it's became really clear that
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the SNL experience makes you tougher sharper
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faster clearer you know um more respect
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for an idea and seeing it through you know at at SNL you have an idea you
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pitch it in the room the host locks in and says yeah then it's your job to make it
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work it's a fumble if you don't when you're halfway there exactly and in a lot of sitcom
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rooms um I will say run by other people not us uh you know we'll get to your
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other career okay but they but but they um you know will have an idea and if
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they can't make it work in a couple hours they throw it out and move on and you go no no don't don't
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don't the hard part you know the easy part is making it work you know it just it takes some some thought but ideas are
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the hard part yeah you get one good idea yeah yeah right yeah and and you should
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make it work and SN is is a clear shot at learning how to do that it's it's
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really amazing to me you know when I was there I just I learned a lot from you know these two Dana and everyone there I
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was newer and uh these two were obviously always nice to me um but I was so new and I think I was learning from
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just at read through because you you read a tight sketch that works and you go oh that's how like you study it you
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go oh there's no fat in here everything means something this to this what am I doing I don't need 18 pages I don't need
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you know just but every sketch you learn and then the next read through you go okay and then you see how it's written
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you just learn over time I think and watch what works on on its feet I agree with you I agree with that totally and
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you know the sudden potential humiliation just focuses you
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oh as writers sitting there and air show
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it's going out or and read through or during the rehearsal you don't want any fat you want it to be like monkey bars
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that's funny that's good that's funny you can't be baggy at all so and this
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procrastination Theater which is sort of part of that whole week but it's taking that proc okay we got to do it now it's
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got to go now and by the way Jim Downey was electric at 1110 great yeah you know what's funny
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Dana he could write he could write five jokes when there's like you'll have it in the C it's just like right right
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right at that point I would have a sketch that if it God forbid got to the rewrite table and we'd be going through
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it and The Bu and for the listeners the benefit is you get Bonnie and Terry and
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smile everyone's funny adds to your sketch so you get the credit but I remember we I think this one time we
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turned the page to the next one and Jim kind of ran his pen from the top to the middle and goes I don't know if you need
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this part like this whole chunk could go and you wouldn't even miss it I'm like like
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really and then when you read it it was a dead spot and you just takes fresh eyes or someone else look at it go no
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and then those are tough to take as a writer but again like Bonnie said it's
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just boot camp you got to go okay I'm in with the best people so I gotta trust
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I'm good do Bonnie and Terry to this question like do you have people ask you
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and they oh you wrot for SNL I thought you were that 70 show oh we did where are there sketches that standout that
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you shephered or co-wrote or wrote with for the host or anyone that you remember people ask you well if you want check
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that out on YouTube what what were the ones that your image of it and then it's on the air and it's like oh it's even
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better I like the one the way the raise your hands raise your voice that set the chickens free oh my Go song yeah the
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song I remember that because of everybody that was in it doing a impr
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and I remember the two of you you were doing Dylan and you were doing uh Tom Petty yes am I right and that and you
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didn't sing but you did this expression facial expression that was Tom Petty's you had award we could not
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understand the word that Bob Dylan was saying and Farley was part of uh was he
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meatloaf or was he Wilson Phillips no it was Wilson Phillips Wilson Phillips drag is Wilson Phillips
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guaranteed laugh yeah that was just great I love that that piece and when the chickens came over the hill where
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where they had the slow motion slow motion running over the hill I I thought that was absolutely great I love
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everybody everybody scored in it it was so great a cast piece where everyone's do Impressions is a score and then was
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the host who was the host that week I don't even know well Michael Bolton we talked Michael we talked Michael it was
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it was Stephen Seagal was the host and Michael Bolton was the musical guest and we were like can't write for Stephen
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Seagal and but we we T we said if we write this song Michael Bolton has to do
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he has to set it up because he's the setup he's the genuine yeah and uh so he went down
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to his dressing room and talked to him and said would you Mr Michael Bolton
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would you please do this this is what we're doing and it it's not we're not making fun of
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Quincy Jones or anything like that it's not a thing that's not what it is you know and and he went yeah sure I'll do
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that oh I love it and now he does all kinds of Comedy I mean maybe that was the first time he did something comedic
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and then who knew that he was a standup you know you have you two have eyes for talent I'll tell you that you've got a
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nose for the winter every time you you did do a lot of musical stuff as well
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when I didn't I do a cowboy thing one was it Woody sure you did and we were on fake horses and it was you guys song you
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know that's so much that's a fun part of the show yeah it's doing the musical stuff is great in the show it's a lot of
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fun I like to when when uh oh God think who I feel like a million
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dollars I feel like a dynamite um Christopher walon thinging when he
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would do musical stuff on the show oh he loved it to it was great and he could move he could dance and for people who
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don't know you usually have a music director we had it was Cheryl right chery hard you get as a novice and you
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know comedian you're sitting with this person who like oh Bradway Oh you mean like that I mean you
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and she played um some Santana song the chords backwards and that was the themed to church chat but you guys would I
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didn't know that fun fact for the kids wow um but that that was so great to be
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on a real musician like that where they just and then there and then you get all the casts together and she try to tell
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you your part stuff like that that was fun what about the one that was dysfunctional family Christmas leave me
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alone please go away F leave me alone please don't don't touch me please don't
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was that you guys that was that was us yeah that was us great one
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[Music] yeah you two were kind of ubiquitous you were like in a lot of quadrants you
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weren't like in one little lane and so you would sometimes punch up things or you'd come in youd rescue write a line
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you write your own thing right for the host so uh that's the way I see you on the show you were just every just
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floating around and and and obonnie and Terry are here and they're gonna have great ideas it just that's the way I
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remember you guys I don't know if I remembered it correctly but I remember we didn't have the great ideas that part you got wrong we were around but we not
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with the great you're right we were utility players no and and stars but
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that's part of did you work was coads during SNL it was wasn't it Conan cone
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head's movie conad movie conad yeah yeah that was I think it Wasing
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yeah I just want to um just for all of us for the people at home I'm going to read some of the cast of Cohen heads the
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movie okay that you guys wrote on okay uh obviously Jane Jane curtain Dan
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arride uh Chris Farley Lorraine Newman John Lovitz Michael mcken Parker posy
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Garrett Morris Julius Sweeney Adam Sandler David Spade Ellen degenerous
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Michael Richards Tim Meadows uh William Shatner Phil Hartman hooks Jason
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Alexander Joey Adams Kevin nean and Sinbad all crammed into one movie that
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didn't work exactly but it was a it was at least a lot to look at oh
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Drew Cary a lot of right was in the back of the c i David I was thinking about you the
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other night about uh the last line on remulac the uh super
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guy I think that was a re-shoot I think it totally was a re-shoot yes and it
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always made me laugh oh I love going heads I had such a fun part in that that was so fun uh goad was a good movie I
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just saw stuffing on it lately because people find it again you know some streamer picks it up and then people
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give it a shot that didn't drag out to the theater and then they go oh that was fun I know it's kind of a cliche but I
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it seems like there's a hunger for these big kind of dumb '90s comedies uh
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they're just fun you see con EDS you're just laughing it's so silly and fun you know but one
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thing interesting about you too I'm just observing it casually sketch writers film writers yeah and then
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dominating the half hour world and doing it now with that 90s show oh yeah season
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two so yeah season two films are what's what's the hardest of those three or
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what's the easiest of those three because you you've done all three I think films are the hardest for me it's
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a bigger picture it's a longer shot and it seems like uh I don't know just they
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seemed harder and I don't know why it's like 120 pages I mean that's a lot you
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keep the balls in the air oh my God yeah you get two acts in and then
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what happens how do we get to the end now yeah we got to get there the one
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hard the one that you guys wrote on extensively was way world let's just talk about wayn world one which was sort
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of uh just landed so beautifully uh yeah that was a great experience yeah did you
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guys this is what I would say like on the first one it was 35 days maybe or 25 35 days it was short and we're on the
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car doing but if Abraham Lincoln she'd be a baby bab whatever you probably
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wrote that line or um bab's Bunny and then and then the sequel we had so much
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money and I they built a set where gu and Wayne hang out and it's like just Fantastical it seemed like it was almost
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a parody of the the theme of the first movie it should have been it actually should have been a a parody of the first
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fil that we do just we do just sell out or what GTH and Wayne have money yes
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they're now living in a giant Warehouse yeah or wherever they were they the doll it was the doll factory yeah the old
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doll factory oh that's right there's a giant statue of lenon there was a restaurant in there
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somewhere that was and one you guys I think dream girl was yours or you just
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we wrot you wrote a lot of stuff for G and I just want to thank you and we
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were fun to work together on things you know was very nice well I always felt
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like that uh that the first movie uh was like uh Wayne and G get uh $10 million
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to make a movie and what do they want you know G wants the dream girl the Dream Woman and uh Wayne wants an exotic
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singer in a rock band and they have this cool car and and there there was
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something that was in the uh do you have any gray pong that that scene where yeah
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he said they think everything they do is so [ __ ] hilarious G Can't hold it
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together when they drive up to the it back and forth and they just explode with laughter over do you have any
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pardon me do you have any gray coupon I know they were laughing too we never smoked pot or drank in the movie but
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they were laughing and I way little Stone people asked you over the years I go well the two losers in town and their
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friends are the happiest people in the town like like absolutely by 10x yeah
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yeah it's ritualization of all those things and of course a tip tip of our hat to Mike Myers arit go ahead Terry
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well there was a a note that Paramount gave to uh to underline the fact when
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Farley came up to the car we should know that this is an important moment and you
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know about Mr Big in the car we should underline this moment and and then okay
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Mike put the line in you know for a security guard he had an awful lot of information don't you think like it's
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just directly into the camera and Paramount was completely happy with it it wasn't what they asked for with but they said oh that'll do it that'll
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underline it this is insane it was like oh it's kind of nice all the exposition
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funny version of that yeah just put go to the camera and go this is what's happening this is what we're thinking
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okay right and next um there was one I think that wasn't G he was on the grass
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going ow ow ow he was like Mar you know those kinds of moments yeah yeah yeah it was my keys my keys my keys I fell on my
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keys so if you're going to yeah I mean so that movie but going back to like our
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movies harder there when we did the um the scene where he does foxy lady and I
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don't know if you guys remember we were trying to get what what's new pussycat what's new pussycat yeah but Steve
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Martin was doing it in Father the bride just a fun fact yeah but that that was a day where you go triple overtime just to
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get it because I remember walking to the set and going I think this is the most tired I've ever been on my life you know
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isn't it a little weird that that one going to film this thing but that's part of uh film it gets gritty sometimes it
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gets late it gets cold it gets got to get the shot you know the the other weird thing
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about films for us and doing them was that um as we went through you know
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Hollywood there they don't let writers on the set that the idea that writers
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that Terry and I were there on the set was like a weird thing
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for we didn't realize it at the time because it was we were just as far as we were concerned we were just working you
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know true yeah and um and and there is a
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a thing about having you know writers talk to the actors you know you you have
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to go through the director and you have to you know there's a filter all the time and you go man if you know who
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you're talking to and you know what their comic butt are and and like what
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how they're physically funny or how they're you know you should be able to talk to them right because the director
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could kill that because they're also um they don't know it's also you two with Dan and Mike who you two are together
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every day and someone comes in from the outside yeah and is the mediator yeah
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it's weird I know it is weird it seems to come from SNL in a way like sometimes a writer would jump in a sketch or even
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if Davey Wilson came down a writer or a cast miracle more of a clubhouse feel
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like rather than you're the writer I'm the performer and you know yeah there was no there was no hierarchy it was
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just Ary just Ary you direct your own sketch you just
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write it then you go in the booth and watch and yeah you produce and write your own work at SNL with people like
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you on the set because you're if you're if I'm in the character of gtha I'm doing things I can get notes from you
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guys because you're objectively watching the whole thing maybe you should go your entrance a little quicker just a timing
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thing so yeah I'm I'm glad to hear that we had that but that's you know what what was your next movie you did
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wayworld you did con Tommy Boy Tommy Boy Tommy Tommy Boy was I mean what a great
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title that we missed which was Billy the thir of Midwestern Billy the Kid Billy
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the Kid the working bil the thir the third it was Big Bill Little
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Bill sorry myad Billy would have been great too though bunny thank you thank you Dana a
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Midwestern I'm out of here I'm out of here T yeah well that was such a great
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and I think it was a Billy Madison bump right yeah that's what we heard from uh
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somebody said that the audience might confuse it and because it was s you know two people from SNL and they might go to
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the wrong movie or something which I I don't know I don't know yeah oh oh my God what line am I
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in two people named Billy can't with I know well Tommy took a while I mean
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Tommy Boy the title took forever uh it seemed because I don't think in my
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recollection which is you know a little Dusty is a I don't think it was named
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when we got to the set I mean I think it we have to find a new title yeah Adam I
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think was shooting Billy Madison maybe in Vancouver I don't know but yeah at the same time so but Tommy Boy of course
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just like Wayne's World another one where it landed and uh I appreciate that
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one writing a movie how did that even come about uh we were talking with with
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we've talked with Farley and it turned out Farley's we all had working dads of
00:29:09
course everybody had working dads then but Farley's dad and my dad had a lot in common not only their size not only
00:29:15
their demeanor not only everything about them but there was this one thing that happened when I said my dad used to when
00:29:21
he drove a truck and he had to take dinner napkins and tuck them in
00:29:28
at a certain weight will you get this he had to tuck dinner napkins into his belt and fold them over because the steering
00:29:34
wheel would rub on his pants and shine them up right below his belt line and uh barley said my dad had his pants would
00:29:41
shine too when he got in the car and I went this is weird so we started talking about our dad's and everything and it's
00:29:47
and my dad was on the road a lot so that's how that sort of started went that way and I was on the other end at
00:29:53
Paramount finishing up the cone heads and looking at the testing and the
00:29:58
testing numbers for Farley were off the charts oh and I went yeah and I went
00:30:04
over to um John Goldwin office who was the president of production at Paramount
00:30:09
at the time and said have you looked at these numbers this is weird is this weird you
00:30:15
know I think this is weird this is this number is way high in a good way yeah
00:30:21
but but is are you look has Lauren looked at these has you know this is he this is this is
00:30:29
interesting and um and John went yeah I know I know and we went huh and then
00:30:36
Terry and barley had this conversation this ongoing sort of thing where they
00:30:42
would laugh at each other's fathers and um and it became a movie yeah so Lauren
00:30:49
say write something up about this because he's good in conee heads he's
00:30:55
good on the show let's put something together where salesman he was he I I
00:31:01
remember uh nothing about how that happened I think do you Terry I don't I
00:31:08
don't really remember I don't know how it I don't remember what the Gap was the word I got was Lauren got you two
00:31:15
because you're great writers and you wrote well and he said maybe it's probably for Farley but he's like maybe
00:31:21
farly and Spade because it could be like a buddy comedy and kind of the way they are around the office and Spade kind of
00:31:28
makes fun of them and Goofs around and they pal around and the traveling salesman thing because a pitch we always
00:31:35
laugh later like a pitch of a guy selling break pads in Ohio wouldn't wouldn't go as far but you have to back
00:31:42
into it it's like yeah what's a funny Farley movie what's a funny idea my dad was a Salesman too so I related to that
00:31:49
part too of like oh um you got he worked in commission you don't get any money to
00:31:54
you sell and all that stuff so I I related to that and then it just turned
00:31:59
into uh reading it and going oh we're GNA do it this summer what a blast yeah
00:32:05
yeah blast yeah that was a great I enjoyed that movie tremendously there's something kind of magic about that movie
00:32:12
there's the likability to it and there's a POS there and then of course all the funny set pieces it was like just it
00:32:19
just really feels good whenever you see a piece of it it's just like I don't know what you guys did but Chris
00:32:26
Farley's Chris's brother uh je his name just left my
00:32:32
brain there's Kevin there's okay yeah uh said that they watch it they watch the
00:32:38
movie once a year just to visit with Chris just to visit with Chris yeah
00:32:44
because it really captured and Chris yeah in a f also they can't help it because it's on TBS five times a day
00:32:50
well this is why it's like the it's like The Wizard of Oz or it really is I was I
00:32:57
was on the road I saw Tommy Boy and Joe D in the same day just on the same channel I'm like oh my God what's going
00:33:02
on is this why I keep getting three cents I knew it was for some
00:33:08
reason wonder you were great in that film wonderful it was ready it was well
00:33:14
written for me and um just perfect falling into place uh well the two of
00:33:20
you together great doing stuff like the fat man in a little coat thing which I've done around around the office in
00:33:27
the writers little you know I love that it's on film
00:33:33
yeah couldn't include all the stuff in the writer room no um anyway no what what are you what are you talking about
00:33:39
I don't know Chris Chris would get big laughs some you could show some you could sometimes clothes would come off
00:33:49
[Music] yeah and then you went on now what was the first one sitcom wise after that was
00:33:55
it a third rock or was it it was Third Rock yeah yep and that came from was it
00:34:00
I just I didn't put it together with like it was a cone head type of thing or
00:34:06
is that was that not oh man it was it was this started with just the thing with Marcy Cary said would you like to
00:34:12
do a show about aliens who visit the Earth to maybe do a book report on it or something like that we and we went no
00:34:21
no that idea and get out of my office right now but the more we thought about it and we were walking down the street
00:34:27
New York and uh and a moving van went by that said the Solomon Brothers on it and
00:34:34
we said the Solomon Brothers they all come in their brothers which which we traded around and moved around but that
00:34:39
was just how it started and went from there and ran forever how'd you get John
00:34:45
lith out was he a first choice or he he just appeared because he's he's so perfect in that he it was his Bonsai
00:34:51
Buckaroo you know that weird weird film John had a reputation for doing odd things and um and
00:35:00
we thought and we had worked with you know we it was an SNL and he was a host
00:35:05
a couple times and it was you know we' written a Thanksgiving sketch and he he he knew how to be really funny and very
00:35:12
normal and um and actually Bonnie Bonnie was the one who thought of him because we couldn't figure out who was going to
00:35:18
play that role because we said it was like a a cross between arrol Flynn and Bugs Bunny he wasn't afraid to pick up
00:35:25
the sword and stab somebody with it or put on the dra he would do you know anything whatever you need to do and we
00:35:30
thought and thought we were thinking for a while and Bonnie said one morning she said John let go I said what she said
00:35:37
it's John lith go and I went of course it's John let go who else would that role you know and we we had we didn't
00:35:44
have a full script we had like three scenes written some descriptions and
00:35:50
some yeah description in between and and we went this is all we have and we were having breakfast we Marcy and Tom and
00:35:58
you know the Cary Warner had decided we should have breakfast with John he
00:36:04
didn't know that we were going to pitch a show to him and we gave him these
00:36:09
pages with the stuff written and said you know just just it's about an alien
00:36:16
and and he went and he went what an alien on
00:36:21
this and what that mean like Lop I nearly puked a muffin was just like oh
00:36:28
this is really bad this is not good he probably thought alien makeup every
00:36:33
day something anyway he he called that night at like around 7:30 and said uh I
00:36:41
hate you both and we went okay great why and he
00:36:47
said because I'm going to do television I never wanted never wanted to do series television oh and now I'm going to do
00:36:53
series I'm going to do series television how fun well good for us this is good
00:36:59
for it's bad for you it's good for us this is great we shot it for ABC originally and uh ABC was not keen on it
00:37:06
and it jumped networks which very seldom happens yeah and uh then it would end up
00:37:12
on NBC and they got it as a mid-season replacement and we shot 16 episodes or
00:37:17
15 13 13 13 episodes and it never aired in the dark we said we're in the dark
00:37:23
because we shot it in front of an audience they got to see the pilot and then
00:37:28
uh then they put it on the air after after half a year or more of shooting the show and then they put it on the air
00:37:33
and it took off but it was very very weird that people were coming in to watch a show that nobody had seen and
00:37:40
for some reason it worked you know how you just get into a project and you go well I'm in it so we'll just keep
00:37:47
working you know cross fingers right how many times has that happened to you in you're over the last 40 years yeah you
00:37:54
know several times right were you at CBS Radford yeah yeah I think I was just shoot me
00:38:00
right on the same time you were there were yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah CU which was a very funny show I led to shoot me
00:38:08
yeah it was great it was great David I always say David was the fonds of that show he
00:38:14
totally meaning it is the you know the kind of that whatever you call that character
00:38:20
character the very cool idiot yeah idiot for sure cocky idiot but funny because
00:38:27
one episode they find out I have a big wiener that Finch us and then um they
00:38:34
saw me they and they were all jealous at work because they saw me in the sauna and then they George seagull and uh
00:38:41
Elliot see me hitting on a girl and I'm so bad at it that um they go you know
00:38:46
the the clouds are parting and the sun is coming because it goes George Goes Classic great product bad sales
00:38:54
department that's a good line that's great and they walk away
00:39:00
happy oh yeah that was such a fun show that was a fun show and you guys did so it was 70 no no it was Third Rock then
00:39:07
70s Show and then was it 80 show the 80s Show yeah yeah yeah I think Britney was
00:39:13
on that maybe um Britney Daniel and then um and then there's 90s yeah can I ask
00:39:20
you guys a question yeah before we get I just that I remember the first time I met you and I'm kind of I'm not even
00:39:27
sure if I remembered it correctly but you said something the effect of we're going to work really really hard and
00:39:33
then we're going to go move on move you know retire or do something else I don't
00:39:38
know I this is like n when you first came in the off I probably misremembered that but I was just curious because all
00:39:45
this success and I know there's other little things in between but basically the show the movies the TV shows did you
00:39:51
guys take kind of a Hiatus before you came back did you spend or we've been working since all the way through you
00:39:59
before the 90s show you mean oh just yeah in these last 10 years was there a time you were we stopped we just stopped
00:40:05
completely yeah we stopped stopped we we became serial Renovators at that point we started we renovated the apartment we
00:40:13
renovated the house and that was what we did we have to do something you know but and then we started back up Tom Warner
00:40:20
wanted to reboot the show and Marcy said if you'll do it I'll do it and we said
00:40:25
okay we'll do it yeah and recast it the fun thing is actually the casting on it because the New Kids On It are are good
00:40:31
they're great and we get to work with de Jo and kurtwood again so that's fun well
00:40:36
those two I mean are Kirkwood Smith there's something about I mean he is
00:40:42
just so funny well he carries the baggage of the Dead Poet Society when
00:40:48
when we and the son that commits suicide you know yeah it was it was like when we said when we told the First cast that
00:40:56
the grandpa in the you know the show was
00:41:01
uh gonna be Kirkwood yeah everybody went
00:41:06
oh my God you know because oh my god the guy who son kill himself my God he's
00:41:12
gonna be the dad you know he's gonna be he's gonna be the dad yay so people
00:41:17
don't know you came back and you did season one it's on Netflix 10 episodes yeah the 90s shows well received I read
00:41:24
some reviews people love it I try to do the homework you know but
00:41:30
then then now it's back on season two when is the premiere 27th of June okay June when
00:41:37
they yeah basically if you like the 70 show those parents are back their empty
00:41:44
nesters and then the grandchild come back with all their friends and so it's this conflict again
00:41:51
and um Deborah Joe rup and Kurt Woodsmith are back yes really really
00:41:58
funny what was okay here's here's an Oprah type question what was it like coming back to the after that Hiatus
00:42:04
working on your house coming back into the mom into the into the the we didn't
00:42:10
want to do it Dana we were we were when there's our trending it's trending it
00:42:16
was it was we just we just went we in the very beginning Terry and I just went
00:42:21
why would we want to do you know why do why do we just keep nailing and make a kid
00:42:28
you know and and um and Lindsay our daughter who uh I don't know if you guys
00:42:35
remember her of course Lindsay she was the mascot who was always smiling I
00:42:40
remember her always smiling yeah on Joe dixo stool yeah you know sitting there
00:42:49
and uh she's she said do this do this it's it'll be great it'll be wonderful
00:42:54
and she she went you know you got Deborah Joe and C would you have she started pitching what she thought the
00:43:00
series should be well I guess it's the thing we went the thing about you know
00:43:07
modern live streaming all that so you you get to do 10 just 10 take a break do
00:43:13
10 and you probably can mix and match I don't I don't it's just it just seems
00:43:18
easier than 22 was do I you remember that correctly it abely right 22 23 one
00:43:25
year was 25 by the way a little insert here I for a period of time 10 years ago
00:43:32
I was developing a half hour Show with Tom Warner oh yeah and he constantly uh
00:43:39
was just sort of sweet well well Bonnie well Terry we we'll talk to them you know I'm gonna reach out to them if we
00:43:45
could get Bunny and Terry but Bunny and Terry I mean he loves you guys um and uh
00:43:51
I said I know I think I think that you know it Tapped Out did you guys so you
00:43:58
you you got a couple nickels in your pocket you know you're not you're not from wealth wealthy backgrounds I assume
00:44:04
you weren't so and you're you're you're independently you're okay you can do what you want and so you decide to after
00:44:12
I don't know working your asses off for decades I think it was a well-deserved and so you're renovating a cool house
00:44:18
are you reading books you're taking walks how do you feel that after all that
00:44:24
freneticism I miss it you miss well what the I I miss I miss I
00:44:31
miss the crazy I miss the work I I I love I love the work I love I love the
00:44:38
thought process I love I do and I love and I love you know one of
00:44:44
the things that got us through the pandemic was the 90s show we were we were sitting and thinking about it we
00:44:49
were GNA you know we were in a in a house couldn't go anywhere but we were
00:44:55
thinking our brains were in this we were in Point Place wiconsin you know
00:45:00
and and that's a wonderful place to live yeah general area are you in Point Place
00:45:08
like a casual street address where would you be don't give it away 20 24 2415 rugby
00:45:17
Drive rugby Drive sorry that was a long way to go for that joke so exactly it's
00:45:23
okay but um so I give it you're saying so your brain is occupied during the pandemic with thoughts of this and I do
00:45:29
think from the the stuff I've seen the cast is really good and very likable all
00:45:35
the young people and so that's also sort of a kick right now you're meeting people first time in a TV series and
00:45:41
then you guys come in like rock stars I assume not that you would present yourself that way but like hey they did
00:45:47
the 70 show they find out what you did they're like oh my God they've done all this stuff well I mean it's kind of nice
00:45:54
isn't it it makes them relax a bit and go oh my God these guys know what they're
00:45:59
doing I think the Tommy Boy was one of the guys sat down uh uh one of the The
00:46:05
Tech Guys uh wait a minute I'll get his name in a minute oh Brad Brad okay there
00:46:13
I'm not good with names either I the names Escape me I couldn't remember who Dave Gro was yesterday was like you know
00:46:20
the drummer from Nirvana Dave go yes Dave of course of course of course early
00:46:26
on set yeah Jeopardy for couples like Bonnie and I and and the time you have
00:46:32
to answer the question is actually 45 seconds and you get to discuss he was
00:46:37
who was she was on that show the the soap opera Opera no not Dallas the other
00:46:44
one I don't know I once sat with George and Barbara Bush Nam drop in Houston
00:46:51
outside and they were a little long in yours but the name would come up like well you know the the people and then
00:46:58
Barbara would uh close her eyes look up like this for like a
00:47:04
minute and not moving and then come down with the name but it was really an interesting kind of
00:47:11
just look and stare and then just well that was Jill Masters whatever good one
00:47:19
bar sorry I don't want to do I don't normally do voices on this Bonnie and
00:47:24
Terry good stuff [Music]
00:47:31
well you guys I guess we'll let you go but what a blast it's so fun talk about all this stuff this was wonderful this
00:47:37
was lovely so nice to see you fun I wish we were going to dinner this is like a
00:47:42
dinner basically with no food we just next time we'll do it um so uh probably
00:47:49
don't know the answer to this are you go did you guys go to the 40th did we running each other there or no I think
00:47:54
we were there it just like it was like 3,000 people just like it was a Sea of
00:48:00
Faces especially at that party you couldn't even move was insane um so that's to that do you plan
00:48:08
on going to the 50th and would you wear the same stuff you wore to the 40th I totally I totally will all right I
00:48:15
always I always dress like a chist so smart you know yeah well it's black it's
00:48:21
easy and you anything between my legs it's hey wait what
00:48:27
old you kept it clean until now yeah yeah it was a family show you ready for
00:48:33
this it go like this I apologize I apolog Bonnie and
00:48:38
Terry Turner the the uh I don't know you guys are so humble and normal it's hard to go uh some of the greatest you know
00:48:46
um Arc typo uh a big part of the zy the last 40 Years of American Comedy and
00:48:53
film I mean right thanks I could bring out icon or I can just stay with an
00:49:00
important part of Americana film whatever you want
00:49:06
to so last thing I just want to ask is you're not currently in production are you actually you're just in your house
00:49:13
and and relaxing yeah we're relaxing until probably November we're watching
00:49:19
cuts of the show and doing editing notes and things but we're doing it all on Zoom I
00:49:24
know this is my job this is where I was right yeah it's great yeah and then I
00:49:31
yeah get Paula behind the door um but anyway uh I don't I don't even know what that means you guys look great thank you
00:49:39
you look wonderful and you sound wonderful we're doing good is is just like readr for me
00:49:44
just right by the table um we yeah for the amount of damage I've done to my you
00:49:51
know how much I like beer on an airplane one one final thing I remember we're going to fly and I don't like to fly I
00:49:57
think it was from LA to New York or something and Terry was talking and Terry's is going well I have no no no
00:50:04
fear of flying I go wow that's great he goes but I only fly Delta that's the only Airline I'll fly thought that was
00:50:10
kind of funny I have absolutely no fear but I'll only go do you remember that Delta I will only Delta to this day I
00:50:18
like Delta one fatal crash and it was not and it was a a wind shear factor and they asked the tower to go around and
00:50:26
the tower would not respond and they landed in Dallas and the plane went down but most of the people walked off the
00:50:33
plane a lot of the people did and there were some fatalities but that's been the that's Delta Delta you walk off our
00:50:39
crashes I'm just buying some Delta stock right now I know a tip when I see it
00:50:45
very good 10,000 thank you Terry thank you guys Terry Turner or our
00:50:51
guests and you guys have a nice day lots of love love you both love you both love you love all of you
00:50:57
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