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Jerry Seinfeld | Full Episode | Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade

May 08, 202401:25:08
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Dana we got a great fun comedian on that we both like we both known forever Jerry
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Seinfeld the Jerry Seinfeld who also did a what's it what was his half hour show
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in the 90s called it's called skadoo or something called Fel I know it if I hear
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it Feldman so anyway he may be well he wouldn't like this but he may be kind of
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an icon at this point but uh it was very interesting to talk to to say I mean
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people throw Legend around or oh my God you're he is one of the best Comics to do it and he's definitely has a show
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that is arguably the best sitcom or at least way way way up there yeah yeah and
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we can look now 25 years later how it's just ubiquitous it's AED all over the
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world and then Jerry is such um he at his core he's a standup and he's he's a
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scientist about it and loves to talk about it so that was very interesting it was a really fun interesting interview
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it went by very fast he has a lot to say and um his new movie unfrosted and so we
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talked all about that the idea of writing and directing a movie you know yeah and all the cameos and the so many
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comics and funny people that are in that movie and it's got a great nostalgic feel to it uh it was a lot of fun that
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one just sitting with him I don't see him that much I see him about once a year somewhere in an event never get
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much time everyone's around so just to sit and we all it's in by the way yeah oh yeah we
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all did at my house and we cracked up it's good to just have hard laughs when comedians are on yeah yeah Jerry loves
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Comedians and loves talking about comedy so I think you might enjoy this I hope so we did all right here he is here he
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here he is Jerry Seinfeld [Music]
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men and women do you have any Chunk on that yeah I do well in the olden days I
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think Chris Rock You end with male female relationships yes I do the whole
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second half of my set is is marriage and kids did you start yeah 10 minutes in
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it's pretty good we yeah we don't have a real start time hi to pece everybody are you rolling yeah oh good how how's your
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energy right now 1 to 10 uh seven good we had the premiere of the movie last
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night I saw it which was you were there no I saw the pictures of you your family
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you were smiling so much and all the pictures because I'm done I know almost
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almost this is kind of embarrassing but I saw I saw the movie twice wow well you
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know you're cooking dinner you got it on the laptop you know I'm not horrible Chair by the way work on that this
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chair's horrible I always thought you were taller why is he in the little kid chair I don't know if it's it's shaped
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like someone just drew an l and said P had that this chair so yeah chairs are
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now made for humans they're actually designed to fit human beings this is not this is like Burger King they want to
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get you in and out like something are you is a chair do you have a short torso cuz I see it's your chair I'm tell not
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mine it's a bad chair is Charlie's
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better oh this one might be better yeah slightly different Chevy Chase sat on that one I bet it's I bet it might be a
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little I think it's okay good it's the same chair you
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know I only saw un frosted once Dana I just got these jeans I put them on I
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took the tags off this morning and they fit they fit perfectly isn't that a great what store Levis okay old school
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yeah yeah I like what kind of jeans do you wear you know they just asked me just answer the question you know when I
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was growing up objection overruled yeah you're witness Mr two men and
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women what kind of I don't really know I got it's whatever wardrobe has he has a professional shopper no I don't Dana I I
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used to wear only 501 Levis and then uh somewhere along the way I got lost and it just turned into brands that I didn't
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know and they were the exact same but they cost more the Sandler what what is that Sandler thing I love that you would
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have a thing of Sandler that's hilarious this this is his album yeah 100% fresh
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and there's Norm's book over there oh that's great little PPP there's will phell that's nice it's all all we have
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is is each other it's all comedians yeah right I was talking about how
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um the only time I feel really calm is alone or with a comedian yeah if I go to
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like a showas event I will be lying to a comedian yeah and it's it's very simple
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explanation is that we're all on the Spectrum is that true oh yeah oh yeah nobody
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cares about the Spectrum when you take it out this far right it's not the one you think about yeah what's his name uh
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um Neil Brennan has a funny yeah the sprinkle of uh uh Asbergers or whatever
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it is well he says Psychopaths and addicts created the whole world basically oh right yeah that was in his
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last special let me ask you a question has Lauren ever told you his thing about funny people no cuz it's sounds like
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something you would kind of agree with you always I agree with everything Lauren says me too so I said I said I'm
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moving somewhere and he he always would say something like uh will there be funny people there that's the first one
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and then the second one he goes because there's like only 900 of us on the planet specifically 900 sound about
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right globally globally because I that's a generous number I who it's yeah cuzz
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you would used to say like 50 comedians maybe in the country are any good or 25
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six well the odds aren't good for us are we in three three picking them I'm not
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picking them but all right it's a rare you don't have to rank them I agree any time I had anywhere and if a comedian
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walks any kind of social event I'm very happy because they're immediately critiquing the room and yeah and
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analyzing in a funny way so if we're a dog are we what Jack Russell what kind
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of dog are I don't think we're Jack Jack Russell's a too upbeat for what dog breed would
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you say yor kind no no no I know I just gold rever golden retriever golden
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retriever too uh social but it's they're trying to pleas too empathetic and and
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good in social situations cynical awkward a little bit angry and a little
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bit depressed yeah French Bulldog yes bingo cat for our listeners look that
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what dog has that people like those dogs they're very popular in valuable too so it's got that in there cuz they steal
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them a lot they got the ears stick up I don't I don't do you have dogs in your I used to but we uh gave them away okay
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did Leno take them or no they were doxin and they were really weak really weak
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dogs no they no I mean they had no act you
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know that's those little dog if if you're a dog your act is tennis balls
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right M uh Master coming home MH uh Beach that's your act and they had no
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act the only thing they can do is go to a gopher hole stick their snout in it
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and be still and look down in the Gopher hole for hours not enough and that's not really entertaining no I agree weren't
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even excited about dinner they were horrible I hated these dogs you got some lemons yeah it happens
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so tell me about I would like to hear we don't see each other a lot yes tell for sure the table's just got 10 yeah ask us
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well I've done I had my own talk show I know what the hell how to do it ask us anything I want to know look no one ask
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you this that's I bring the ridge I come with the ridge I I didn't think of this
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but I'm looking at you guys I want to hear how this what is this now in your
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life this thing you thought it was just oh we'll just do X SNL players that'll be fun and then it
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blew up yeah so I like the sound of that one so what do you think about this now
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are you glad you did this what is this the only thing I wish about it that I wish it was on video because it'd be fun
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to you make a lot more money too yeah but I do like it because it's kind of old school it's like a newspaper or a um
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telegram why don't you video we're just sitting here we have Camas here uh we
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have a second podcast we video now yeah we just started one cuz so we can video and basically
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get out there because yeah it's so easy now show business boy they really changed it up didn't they amazing this
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is it now this is all the comedian has to do you know fun and you don't have to be funny is that a lot are making so
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much money that it's you said something the other day that uh was sort of forgettable but I it was a uh no you
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said something about movies and I it sort of rang true with me that movies aren't the pinnacle pinnacle and it always was always and now you can make
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more and standup there's these guys that are playing Arenas and and going on to her and they go I don't even have time
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to do a movie cuz I'm making so much money it just and it doesn't help me let's take the money out of the for a
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second break it down let's pretend we actually care about the comedy movies are over was how you record movies are
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over which was really fun and they asked what replaced it and I said a good line um
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disorientation is what is the new Pinnacle well we're all feeling somewhat
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disoriented um I think that um you can't just talk
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about money because you're gonna you're going to go down a bad Road sure in your work if you really just go I'm making
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more money exciting in the beginning but then you got to yeah if the what you have to accept is that um we have to
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chart a different path yeah I saw Nate barazi last night and Ted sanos was there and I was he's working on some
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putting some kind of show together T he's going to lose money it's so funny he would lose money doing a show
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anything else don't don't this is the the thing I really hate I've always hated about comedies that we have to do
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other things none of us want to really this thing we do like this is this kind
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of work is fun you had it on on Wheels basically I had it on Wheels I loved it
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yeah but I had to edit you don't have to edit well this is at times well now it's a long form talking with you and stuff
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at times it's like behind the scenes SNL before you had to hone your sketch down the best improv and the best lines were
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just in the writer room me and Kevin nean would laugh for hours doing Hans and fr and so now we can and I know you
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loved it I did um so now we can do this but I I would say one unexpected thing
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about this is the camaraderie is now omnipresent with we're seeing all these SNL people Comedians and we're like when
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will we again be across the table for an hour you know it just so you're seeing meeting people for the first time and
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you have you feel such empathy for them and their journey and how they're feeling and so it's more emotional that
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happened to me on Comedians and Cars and now I'm friends with Eddie Murphy which we weren't friends before and everybody
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on the show you you know you texting and it's so nice you do a long chunk of time
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we saw we talked to Khloe fman the other day we both know and then you sort of have a new thing you go well they were
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very interesting they about their life so the thing is I guess that we're just
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interesting to listen to for people I I don't know if that's true I mean I wouldn't never I mean if unless it's
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somebody I really like yeah why why would you listen do you listen to podcast no um but you you have I have
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did you ever listen to one and like it I kind of you know the thing is about
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entertainment Now Jerry this is something that you would observe um people are always doing other things
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when you're at a comedy club you're at the club you may be getting a drink but you're watching the comedian everyone listening to this will be doing
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something else gardening walking mostly driving they'll be distracted 12% this
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so we don't have to be that good right but we're still enough Howard Stern
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invented this right yes but we're better than him now yeah Howard is interesting
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Howard is a great interviewer but you know comedy chops I mean may we can we speak candidly sure
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no well he got Robin he get serious Robin is big part of how yeah they're
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all great but let's face it that he's been he's been outflanked by some very
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and yourselves I would say is absolutely this show is comedy podcast this is the
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best one on on the on the air that's nice thank you yeah because you guys you you play nice together smooth you don't
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you don't you're not uh you know jumping on on each other which is annoying to listen to we're friends we don't compete
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we really don't right he cracks me up it's fun to hear him I like to hear him score uh I like to talk to guys like you
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it's not always this level but anybody in comedy is interesting to me and you and we're all a little damaged and beat
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up and uh it's fun to hear so some are tougher than others you probably when you interview sometimes it is it is wor
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well that's why I love I had to edit it I couldn't put that out to people with the with the best put through I couldn't
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do it no and then I got tired of doing all the editing right yeah but I do think that
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people like with a standup they if they love a standup you or David or whatever part of it is they're on your team
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they're buying the ticket and they're there they're already rooting for you you're their friend you're their guy
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Jerry's smart Jerry does this this is my guy so if you don't kill that KN you're
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still Jerry so they just like to listen to us if they've seen me on SNL doing crazy stuff now they're hearing me now
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there was none of this before four years ago three years who knew there was a market who knew people wanted to get to
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know us who gets the credit for figuring who figured it out Dennis Miller he did
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I made that up no it's not denn no you know who did the first big comedy
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podcast that people liked that was funny I mean mar mar is
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more ours isn't that serious we don't dig we don't want to know that much we don't want to put people on the spot
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either Jesus Christ make us laugh what how interesting do you think you are
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you're not that interesting okay you're not right when you're funny you're worth
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it yes this is my line which you know me I know you have a lot of great Lines no
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but you know that I draw that line if you're not funny we're not that interested in
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you so that's still my true Northstar if I do stand up I'm I'm trying to really
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be you've always been that way since you and I hung out what year 81 we've been
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we known each other I think you might have blown through not in the 70s maybe maybe maybe late 70s maybe cuz
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you were we like 14 months apart in age or something but you and Jay Leno always seem like my dad in a way you were so
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much more professional in fact you're the first comedian I ever saw with an act a real act that was at the other
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Cafe in San Francisco the ashbery and our bits were all disc compated all of
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it was running into a corner ditch and was late '70s and like you had all this
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stuff laid out i' never seen anything like that it was like but you advise me don't go on the comedy competition you
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don't need it this was a laugh off no s Fran laugh off I did one I did one came in second who beat you George Wallace
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well that makes sense yeah 78 you put him in unfrosted yeah I did yeah he has
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a funny line too I en I I love other people's anguish is that what he says
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he's a bartender yeah he say uh trouble keeps me in business I I love other people's
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anglish what about my my remembrances of uh Jerry Seinfeld are the you don't
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always remember your openers no one always does but we did San Diego improv on Garnett we'll never forget that it
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was [ __ ] great and then I had my Honda and I had my skateboard in the trunk and I would skate around and I
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think you thought that was interesting and um because I was so young like what was I doing there I was from Arizona and then my recollection which is funny that
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what you remember I don't remember all Comics obviously that you were good but when you're doing like 45 every comic
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I'd worked with wasn't that many has the same 45 like Stamped Out on the road even if you see him five years later and
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you did 45 and the next night I watched you flipped about 20 of it was different I was like I couldn't believe you had
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different stuff and then you flipped it again the next set it's maybe out of boredom that's what I would have done now but I was like oh he's putting he's
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flipping the order and he's also changing different material so you have that much material so I was just a fan
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across the board of that and you were cool to me and uh which we had fun isn't it funny how I mean I remember that so
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well I remember sitting in your apartment in San Francisco so well you guys don't think that I have forgotten
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any of these things I just think that it was there's so many memories and also I was newer maybe later you'd remember but
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you you know when I've openers some people say I remember I go oh yeah now that you say I remember something like that it's weird it's weird but uh when
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you hang out with people if I if I hung out with Steve Carell it would all be about the show we did and I would go
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right back to 9 6 just that it got cancelled but wasn't Seinfeld put it that way I was going to ask you a
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question do you think that most comedians even the good ones are essentially
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lazy uh first of all so impressed that you have questions is is this some a
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little preparation this is out of respect this is you know what this is so flattered you and Jim Gaffigan are the
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two that I've most seen this really discipline I don't even know if you call
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it discipline willingness to tape the ACT sit with it work on the bit if it's
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not working like like you had I had a bit once that I could never get to work without saying [ __ ] right and it really
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frustrated me that's interesting and I tried all these different combinations right it never got quite but I only had
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one [ __ ] in my act right did you ever say what is the [ __ ] deal I I did I had one in a Superman bit but I'm going
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to answer your other question because it's a really good one I had one uh in my super a Superman bit was one of my
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first bits about that Lois and Jimmy were these reporters and they were e
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always tied up in an effing cave and how are they doing their job you know and
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you if I took the F out of it nothing no laugh so that bothered me I go so it's
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not funny yeah unless I say effing cave well especially if comedians use it casually I if you're going to use we'll
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call it the f word yeah make sure it's a punchline just don't go how how the [ __ ]
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are you doing you're wasting if you might get it's all wasted it's all wasted but did you ever figure you
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couldn't get it to work the same way no I couldn't get it to work and I thought well then that's not funny what the hell am I doing aren't I supposed to be good
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with words isn't that kind of part of this job but as we know there are many many people great great comedians who
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use all uh lot of profanity and use it beautifully 99% do not right but some do
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so I can't say I have a I don't have a problem with the word it's but we're supposed to be good with language I
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think that's what they're paying to see back to your question are comedians lazy generally speaking all humans are LA are
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lazy period right but they're not standing on a stage getting no laughs because of the
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laziness no all humans are lazy period comedy is the hardest thing to write or
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do in humanity comma I'm seeing you had more no I don't
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have anything there's no look we all know writers my my friend Barry Martis
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says you think you're funny or you want to be in the business you want to do write me one page of standup one page
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and you see exactly chops or no chops one page of stand this the writing stand
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up it's it's poetry that makes air burst out of your mouth that's what it is let
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me ask you a question what I find please stop announcing questions stop I have a
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question question for youed arm was my grandfather my mom's side quick question
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is the worst you just doubled the length question that's how much you know about
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quickness I'm going to ask you a question this one's very serious no go ahead
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[Music] do you do um do you do any race jokes a lot of comics are doing race jokes I
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don't have any I would do any joke I could think of that works that I like I
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don't have anything on race race but what what what why would you ask that question
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because some uh African-American Comics have race jokes and it doesn't seem like
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a lot of white Comics have race jokes yeah we'll take this out I mean
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um the a question why did you pause there cuz what he said was so stupid I
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didn't know how to respond no I have have another one I wonder why black people think about race
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more than white people I know I'm just saying is it possible Wonder ever wonder
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if that has something to do with their life experience well is it possible to make fun of race if you're white that's I'm saying is like is it too touchy or
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is just too off limits or is it just better left on side uh this thing be I I
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I I really really get ill when I great when I hear you know as a white guy you
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know oh oh I'm white you know I I really hate that crap I don't like any of the any of that white guy black guy this guy
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but I do love and you'll say but so hacky I absolutely love any black people
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do this white people do this I love that bit I don't care who does it I don't
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care what you got love that bit yes it's funny yeah you got Steve Harvey the
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yellow suit special white man fishing black man fishing come on yeah love that have you ever seen Steve Harvey's bit
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it's on YouTube see uh where he's if baby boomers went to war no it's so
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brilliant it's like nine minutes and it's uh extraordinary I need a so that's
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what I care about because we were talking about money or something before I don't care how many tickets you sell I
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don't care where you're playing I don't care what you're raking in let me see the stuff if you've got great stuff I am
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really envious and impressed I don't care what so what are you going to do with this money how many square feet is
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your house who cares how far you walk to take a leak I don't I totally agree bits
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that bits is our only currency that's what I'm saying yeah yes and people ask did you always think this and that I'll
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ask my wife because I met her in 79 did I ever mention getting rich and famous
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she says never right right never I was only trying to kill in the club be as
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good as Len you are one of the great uh uh kill um club though you you're you're
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a uh you're kill obsessed which is what makes a great comedian you are up there
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and I I think I'm I'm not at your level but I I have that I have got to get these people I have to get these people
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yeah I know I care about more than anything yes I do and I I it's nice to live a nice life of course it's nice
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yeah how we live and all that but the best thing ever in the club Jerry was a woman with a napkin going like this
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right in the front row yeah because you know that you reorientated her world
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that's it well turning a crowd around is a good feeling yeah if you're not working it's not working and you're trying every trick in the book and it
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starts to come around you're like oh my God 30 minutes in and i' I've got them did you ever open for music in the day
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and and and go out no that's too tough I think is it did you do that oh yeah lot
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that's a tough one it's kind of fun right it can be I open for Todd runger I open for Robert Palmer I open for 10
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Tower of Power sometimes your hero will be on in a second yeah but first This Is
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Me In 1978 going to college Dana garno boo Fu you yeah this doesn't that
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make a man out of you uh yes it does it does I did for Kid Rock in a in like a probably 7,000
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seater outdoor outdoor to boot uh did I get them let's look at a clip um when's
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the last time you really bombed yeah did you still bomb a lot and and you're mine like you were off look I'm I'm not going
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to tell you where when it was no recently it was wiip it was a couple weeks ago and I came off and with that
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was [ __ ] and I was really and I'm still I I have a set tonight um at the Hollywood ball
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we're doing is this oh that's going to be great is this when is this this is in two years um this uh no the Hollywood Bow
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sounds like such a [ __ ] fun show is it you gaffan and Bazi Sebastian who's
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following Sebastian here's what we're gonna do we're going to go out with a top hat with four number I love it so
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you might open I might open I love it and your mind who no want to answer who's the hardest to follow of those
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three following is a philosophical we I think there's energy
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no versus me yeah I I'll follow anybody I see you're say follow they're all I
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followed Cosby after um 911 we did a benefit at Carnegie Hall and I followed
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Cosby who I F who I was adored as a child and sat there on the floor playing
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wires their air over and over and over and I followed him was no problem yeah so following that's we get into
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a did you follow kenis in his prime oh well now you're talking I did and I
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bombed right five five minutes that's that's loud too loud is tough loud is tough but you know look have you ever
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remember in the old days we used to flip around TV and you're watching a cartoon and then you're watching porn and it's
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no problem you can change you can change lanes the human brain is built to change
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lanes just need you need a minute if I follow Dennis Miller and when he's really got them I can follow it but you
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have to deal with his energy for a couple minutes forget it his energy is none of your business well it's it stays
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there for a moment you can't you know yeah that's none of your that's not your problem I just go out and do something like that say I'm playing Tucson I go
00:27:49
what's up Tucson and I have them okay last night I did a set right but I'm on the I'm on the bill so they know I'm
00:27:55
there and that only matters because uh John malany comes in and he does a
00:28:01
guest set and so it he's very hard to follow anyway and he's uh I'm not saying
00:28:07
I don't agree with you but he's also a guest set so it's even better you know what I mean his a surprise right right
00:28:14
he goes off and you want to tell the uh you know uh MC which you would never do do one joke in the middle but I didn't
00:28:20
even say that didn't didn't use that [ __ ] that crutch I said bring me right the [ __ ] up that's right and I went up and I just said John Lenny great
00:28:27
you got guys got lucky tonight and then I go right into it yeah and I did good and it's it's hard you just go right
00:28:34
into it you go I got to floor it because yeah you can't be the one they take the night off on you know if there's great comics in a row like you for tonight
00:28:40
sometimes they go I've laughed too hard if someone doesn't their first joke doesn't work they go yeah let's get some beers and then everyone kind of goes
00:28:46
down for you and you go oh this is the one they took off on they just kind of said well he's not going to be that great in your case Jerry I saw it up
00:28:53
close it was at the comic strip must have been early
00:28:58
0s wow going into the files so there was there was a lot of stuff going on like
00:29:05
people were killing or drinking the room was completely unsettled this before you were Jerry Seinfeld right so you came up
00:29:11
and I was just in the back watching and you're doing your thing no laugh no laugh no laugh but you're not losing it
00:29:17
you just keep going and going and after about seven or eight minutes you started to get him and then you ended up killing
00:29:24
and I remember I never forgot that I go this guy is bombing he's just laying out these great bits one after the other no
00:29:31
one cared everyone's talking but you wore them down yeah mhm see I gave you a
00:29:37
compliment thank you thanks Dana that's so nice um well we could we could he
00:29:42
calls it out too here's a compliment now you know corporate gigs are like that corporate gigs sometimes
00:29:48
you can get them after like 20 they start hating you or just they don't care about you and then they start to go what
00:29:55
the [ __ ] this guy talking about and then they then they start to get some smiles and then if you that that's a big
00:30:01
victory especially a corporate game yeah so you do corporates we all do them you saw the house yeah think I get this from
00:30:08
getting 28 bucks The Improv I used to do like real money at these clubs now at
00:30:14
the clubs yeah these clubs you get making hundreds of dollars yeah you get it's up to no not 100 but it's up there
00:30:21
400 Cedars you know two shows would you ever do two shows anymore yeah I still do okay in one night one night wow what
00:30:29
is your perfect size venue a lot of people brag like we played this and it's bigger bigger I
00:30:35
like what's a good type is it it's not my job is a couple thousand where you want to stop and it's not my job I the
00:30:42
stage is my job I don't care who's out there I know I'm saying you like it no I don't care what I like so if
00:30:50
they I know what you [ __ ] Li would you prefer screens or not screens you don't care it's 20,
00:30:58
do you want the microphone to actually amplify that's not your job do I love Arenas no thank you there we go we
00:31:05
cracked him down we broke him I don't love it but it's not my job to think if you're hired you're supposed to do good
00:31:12
no matter what what are you saying if you're hired you're there you do one person or 100,000 the best I can with
00:31:19
your setup that's I have a question for you and I'm going to attitude I know
00:31:25
what you would have done that's very political this gesture like there he is J Seinfeld funny don't you love D it
00:31:32
just quick when they go look the word look it's like I I I what do I say you know when they get asked the question
00:31:39
look and I disagree with everything you've just said that who was who had the bit where they have the glasses on
00:31:45
they go what do you mean my son's gay who was that guy I don't I don't remember but anyway I had a putting a
00:31:50
cigarette out bit to end the argument I had one of those but I used to do it that people who smoke when they put they
00:31:56
don't they're not an by the smoke until they put it out so anyway that was great went to the pool don't forget your
00:32:02
question I want to what about the the question what Jerry Seinfeld would have done yeah uh
00:32:10
maybe a thousand Cedar out in West Virginia uh little soft Jay phoh played
00:32:15
the night before so I assume so I said sounds just like Jay I mean how's the sound I didn't do a sound check oh yeah
00:32:21
it's great sounds great so I go up huge slapback hello hello hello
00:32:28
horrible I don't think they can fix it or they would have so I had to do the whole set feeling like I was in a
00:32:33
fishbowl that's really hard because you start it wasn't hard cuz hard's not my
00:32:39
business no hard is your business hard is exactly your business suck it up and
00:32:44
do it or to go could you guys but you start to have a mini production meeting because you're trying to be funny you're
00:32:49
like hey guys this guy from D over here but honestly could you [ __ ] fix this uh and are you hearing that and then
00:32:55
blah blah and are these lights too bright but I you try to work it in but you can't just stop and go okay here's what's going on because if they can't
00:33:02
fix it now the audience is on to it going I did a show two weeks ago and I said 10 minutes into the set please go
00:33:08
to the box office and ask for a refund if you're not happy and $4,000 had to be
00:33:14
returned because they they cocked up the sound they cocked up the sound so by the way when you had that bad set did you
00:33:20
think you were just sometimes I feel like the audience better than me it's a yeah I was about to say easy easy felt
00:33:27
sometimes the audience you're better than the audience sometimes the audience is a little quiet and you're really on and sometimes the audience is really
00:33:33
good and I feel just a little that's all fine yeah but there are there are those shows where you can't get that coat off
00:33:42
you know what I mean you walk in someone's house you got your coat on and your job is to take your coat off and
00:33:47
just be comfortable in their house and that's that's a set when you get your cat off in front of the audience okay
00:33:54
I'm here with you we're socializing quote quote and I couldn't get off of
00:34:00
myself you know I have uh I have a uh a trainer guy uh Adam right and he's a
00:34:06
sports pitech he works for a lot of teams a lot of Olympians and we discuss the negative voice a lot which every
00:34:12
comedian is intimately acquainted with the war between you and the negative voice on stage telling you why would you
00:34:19
even go into this field it's clearly not your Forte it's not working it's not working tennis is very strong tennis
00:34:26
golf and St stand up if you have to have a strategy for the negative voice so you
00:34:32
won't be able to play I would say like the code analogy for me is sometimes I forget to say this one thing right
00:34:39
before I go out have fun oh and if I forget to say that and I'm out there and why is this not feeling good I'm not
00:34:46
having fun but the good sets are like you're having fun it's a subtle distinction but if you forget to have
00:34:53
fun and you're and that voice is really loud the best is when the voice is gone that's the best yeah it's very hard to
00:34:58
completely but fun is not really a good um it's an internal clinical work the
00:35:04
the real the sports uh psychology word is flow that that's the state that you
00:35:10
seek in writing or performing or socializing flow is really the word it
00:35:16
is it is a bit overused but there's no better word for it would you accept Zone tone Zone Zone yeah zone I'll accept
00:35:23
zone I'll accept Z but flow is a little more Flo movement yeah and that's what
00:35:29
you're always trying to find you know you let me try and do this bit a little different maybe I can find fun or flow
00:35:35
but when you get flowing and then they get flowing and then you don't have to work well it's like you're enjoying it
00:35:42
and they can feel it and and it feeds it it's a feedback loop you know you guys
00:35:47
are seeing the really good show do you ever do that do you ever like it's going really well and you say you guys are really great tonight do you I can't do
00:35:55
that I I didn't think you would no I didn't think you would I tell them it's their fault when they're not laughing I
00:36:00
got to let them know what I will say is my version of that is I'll just take a sip of water and go let's go to
00:36:06
work okay that's what I'll say that's that's my way of saying this is a good crowd I'm into this I have a theory that
00:36:13
most comedians especially the all-time greats have a little bit of a tell for the audience and that's a little giggle
00:36:19
and if you look at prior prior had the yeah a constant little thing that's
00:36:25
funny Lou CK will do eight or nine minutes and then once in a while he'll just do a big
00:36:31
laugh just like and you you have you'll do it and then you'll put a little laugh
00:36:37
in every once in a while it's it's very subtle yeah but they're seeing that you're enjoying it yeah I've seen that
00:36:45
well your eye is stunning by the way you have an amazing eye that you pick that you pick those that you know that and
00:36:51
you and you tweezer those out that that's great well now I'm just curious I I no I got a tweezer for you i' like to
00:36:58
see a great comic that doesn't have one I don't think you do I don't think you do tons of crowd work from when I've
00:37:03
seen you I do my Encore is always Q&A I take so I guess that's crowding that's
00:37:09
that's just fun right you don't open with it so uh you win them over without it and then you have it at the end but a
00:37:16
crowdwork thing that's funny is when someone goes uh Hey blah blah blah and then they answer and then if it doesn't
00:37:21
get laugh he goes two weeks ago in Cincinnati I asked this lady the same I go you're read living a joke that wasn't
00:37:27
from this crowd have you seen that trck oh it's I saw it last night I was like IO
00:37:34
how do you feel this is a younger uh uh person's thing that they do I'm curious
00:37:40
if it bothers you any comedian that says when I wrote that
00:37:46
joke that's not really part of the show dude don't that's not really no we've
00:37:53
come here dude uh we've come here to hear let's let's play The Illusion that
00:37:58
you're this funny the magic yeah the rabbit will appear and we don't know how it got out yes we don't don't say when I
00:38:05
wrote this J please please now when you're watching standup or watching a special do you find yourself being
00:38:10
analytical a little bit what are you talking about well you're going oh he's doing that bit oh he's doing you know
00:38:17
just watching the standup maybe a young standup it's all right we can move on Wow note to self never bring that was
00:38:23
worse than the race sorry about him sorry about you you sit down for was thank God no you're just saying it's so
00:38:29
obvious that you do I I I am always we're always have the meter running in the cab we're watching H how how you
00:38:37
know when I watched Nate when I called great writer yeah and I watched his second special and I wasn't really that
00:38:44
into him I hadn't seen I shouldn't say that I hadn't seen much of him but the
00:38:49
second one his uh laugh per minute rate was so high lpms yeah so you called so
00:38:57
that I I called him and I said that was a really and my daughter is writing comedy and I said this is what we call
00:39:04
tight this is what this defines tight yes and uh so that so the meter is
00:39:09
running but I will totally get lost in anybody I like but that other that other thing is also there well once in a while
00:39:16
standup has someone come on it's kind of they have their moment you know and so I think it was seven or eight years ago
00:39:22
when I just would go through and watch Sebastian his first kind of
00:39:28
and his physicality and his rhythm sitting there clipping his to Nails over
00:39:35
there eating the C and I was just like okay this this is a this is a rebirth for me this is this is new familiar but
00:39:42
new and I knew that that was his moment right and I'm trying to think the current but that happens once in a while
00:39:48
you last a few years and then not often not often not often once a
00:39:54
decade yeah I mean definitely I think is having his moment Sebastian had his a
00:40:00
few years ago who was before that Chris well Louie chis Lou yeah Lou Lou had his
00:40:07
moment it's it's quite rare it's quite rare when when all the pieces Nate does have a high slugging percentage of like
00:40:13
oh yeah you keep watching you go wow cuz he cuz a thing that I was not accustomed
00:40:18
to and you probably weren't more is when a new thing of doing tour special tour
00:40:25
special and I always feel like the first one's probably the best special and then these are the second best jokes then the
00:40:31
third it just feels like just cuz how hard I work on just jokes to work and I hate throwing them the garbage and uh
00:40:36
yeah me too and you don't really have to I guess because I sort of like a little mix I like stuff that I love and I like
00:40:42
stuff that like if you were on I wouldn't mind if you pulled out uh they've seen the fork or whatever that
00:40:48
joke yes I still do that you know but I I hate to tell you this we're old and
00:40:53
out of it yeah that's just not the way it's done told every day of course but if I went to see George Carlin I would
00:41:00
love if he did baseball and football I would love that that's what I'm saying but I think our day has passed I
00:41:06
remember a comedian coming to the punch line in San Francisco might have been Frank Orman or something the impression
00:41:12
but he was like 55 The Riddler right and I was like what is he even doing this for why would
00:41:18
you I was 26 do you remember Denny's joke for some reason Johnston no Denny
00:41:25
Miller oh oh the Denny do you remember for some reason I want to see Nancy
00:41:30
Reagan and Frank goran's old Riddler costume do you remember that joke said I think about that joke at least once a
00:41:36
week because I love that joke so much it's I don't know what it is you know he
00:41:42
has to say Frank Goron's old Riddler costume see the image you get that image
00:41:48
the green tight yeah I mean Dennis H I love Dennis Dennis my favorite one I
00:41:53
don't know why this one always stuck in my brain yeah he's up there goes Jimmy crack corn and I don't
00:42:01
care big pause what the kind of hell attit is
00:42:07
that [Music] just I'm so glad you're laughing that
00:42:12
hard I love Dennis so much is brilliant he was the one when I started when I
00:42:17
would go to The Improv when I was like that old I was probably 20 21 and the chalkboard and it would be guys like you
00:42:24
and Leno and uh maybe Dennis and Kevin not much Dan he was more up in San Fran when I started but I'd see him but uh I
00:42:31
would go in there and it was such a great comedy school just to watch and go [ __ ] is everyone this [ __ ] good I mean it's unreal about his big gulp one
00:42:39
you know you big gulp 32 o of liquid who's who needs that much liquid I just
00:42:44
stepped off the surface of the Sun I'm a little parched something going only drink with a [ __ ]
00:42:50
undertoe got a life CH cha or the guy didn't forgive the pope you're lucky my
00:42:56
chick's not here yeah yeah Dennis got a milum but I think
00:43:02
in the the Hall of Fame of Our Generation I think of you and Leno and Dennis you know I saw Jay last night
00:43:09
yeah Jimmy uh we had the premiere of unfrosted last night Jay was there Jimmy Brogan was there Larry David was there
00:43:16
and I felt like I was getting married to myself it was it was like
00:43:22
it's it's like well there's the life that was the life that was it the history so was fantastic that they
00:43:28
showed up you know who wants to support me why you know but they're Jerry needs
00:43:34
more success yeah exactly it's subn help him help this
00:43:42
guy you know uh not to talk about the movie but unfrosted speaking of
00:43:47
tight uh one thing that hit me pretty quickly was how fast it was moving like not not really like a normal movie it
00:43:55
was like not not only it's got story so it's not just setup punch but it's really line line lap line I mean once
00:44:01
you see you get it feels like a rhythm where it just goes wow you're not wasting any time you're getting the
00:44:06
scenes out which takes a lot of work ahead of time just tighten tighten but I thought Gaffin was funny everyone that
00:44:11
came in of course I I got the whole cast list here but Melissa McCarthy's always funny yeah Amy was in at Bill Burr of
00:44:17
course uh is the surprise takes you a second yeah to find out it's him but everywhere you turn there's some funny
00:44:24
people and the movie is light it's it's maybe I wouldn't say Willy wonkish but something weird you know something like
00:44:29
that very light very fun very it's a mad mad mad world people caring so much
00:44:36
about something and so maddingly caring about serial thing that was the that was
00:44:41
the track we tried to this I think it's a director this is my first note okay that was I thought was great the kid in
00:44:47
the first scene was so good so good so hard to get a kid that good you're at Din B who I just love this kid I saw him
00:44:55
last night I hadn't seen him since we we shot that I just was hoping is Isaac going to come to the premiere I've got
00:45:01
to see him again he was just a sweet kid he was funny he didn't had line like
00:45:06
I've had better days or something it was something really funny leave the Box yeah yeah uh tough and the and the guy
00:45:13
at the counter says tough day says you don't want to know that was it you don't want to know and then and then a little
00:45:18
while later you have the the little girl in the dumpster like she was she star
00:45:23
she was great her voice and then she comes back she's got a lot of she's a killer did you add her because those two
00:45:30
were getting laughs did you add a scene for them or no you know that's done sometimes they some someone no we didn't
00:45:38
we didn't but you know when the scenes kill obviously there were scenes like I cut and but their scenes all always well
00:45:45
um tell me her name again the little girl I'm okay I got it right in front of me yeah her name is the boy her name is
00:45:52
John Slattery I kind cherubic face her name is John H I like when am calls her Cabbage
00:45:58
Patch Amy Schumer is so great in this movie she's funny well they mean you had
00:46:04
God you had gagan was so [ __ ] funny in this movie like it was a perfect part for him like he looked like Central
00:46:11
Casting from a 60s sitcom or something I mean it was his born to play that role right the president the son of the
00:46:17
president of Kelloggs who inherited the company and he plays it so earnestly that Kyle dunan doing kronite
00:46:25
is what a that was a great Runners love and he did Carson too I saw that with the face with the face replacement we
00:46:32
had him in the we interviewed him right here oh yeah how great is he as good as they come as good as they come good as
00:46:38
they come brilliant underused undersold I'm glad you used very humble kind of unassuming but he Nails it Christian
00:46:44
Slater was you know he came up with the whole cronite I'll stop drinking when you stop talking oh yeah that was an ad
00:46:51
lib on on in a take I said that's this character that's who he is nobody knew that Walter crunch had an uh uh an old
00:46:59
uh [ __ ] wife and a drinking problem it is a it's our generation you know it's
00:47:05
such a touchstone yeah I mean I believe cereal was huge in our family oh sure huge Silly
00:47:10
Putty x-ray specs they gety or Silly Putty if you got one which one we'll
00:47:17
tell you what Tom Hanks said wow that's a tough call I'd probably go with silly putty because of the egg I love the Dual
00:47:25
the two-color egg just made slam it too hard then you never see it again it's the only
00:47:31
problem no that's Super Bowl Super Ball is the one is like you go for the
00:47:37
newspapers yeah I went nuts when they came out with the Super Bowl mini do you
00:47:42
remember the Super Bowl mini oh the little tiny little one that I went they made it smaller and
00:47:50
yeah and you would slam it on the sidewalk and it would fly I want a bigger one so I can [ __ ] find it
00:47:56
sometimes they just go and that's it you get one out of it and then it's like down the street so the yeah so you
00:48:01
wonder is are kids having as much fun today as we had I don't think so the stingray was in there too you had stingr
00:48:08
yeah everything I loved everything it was a little indulgent I I I have to why would it be indulging I just love
00:48:14
Stingray there's no reason for that to be in there oh Steve Schwin and the Stingray well we had to kill somebody
00:48:20
cuz I wanted to do the the full serial honors barri out that was the bit I
00:48:26
wanted to the milk and all yeah I think the rhy that you hit with the movie was like if if this joke wasn't your thing
00:48:33
just wait a second right here's another one well we're Comics we're not fil I'm not a filmmaker I'm a comic I mean Jerry
00:48:41
said filmmaker I I asked my I have a 13-year-old nephew and I said what is
00:48:46
the equivalent of like a slinky for you to kill time and he said great question porn online porn oh okay is that a joke
00:48:54
no that's sad and slinkies would get all caught up only because you're never
00:48:59
going to enjoy sex you're never going to enjoy it no and that's a shame isn't it I had a slinky I they ruined it they
00:49:05
ruined it I know we had a Playboy magazine at the dump and saw a little bit but hard porn for a first grader I
00:49:13
don't agree with it just count me as don't like porn for kids taking a stand
00:49:18
who said this um I quit porn Chris yeah it's so funny you could just do the
00:49:25
pace without the tells me every day also the fingers on on the shoulder Spade
00:49:32
Spade listen to me he had one of the greatest lines I've ever heard about how
00:49:38
to be a professional comedian okay we were talking the other day we did the um Kevin Hart's Mark Twain price he he were
00:49:46
talking about he was talking to some young comic I'm not going to mention that name either and he was telling him
00:49:51
he said to the kid what do you do during the day he says hang out do don't do anything during the day and says to the
00:49:57
kid during the day is when you make the money I go yeah we collect it at night
00:50:03
but we make it during the day so that line he and I really love that line that
00:50:08
that's that should be the code for S but I think all the young kids today they do they're either doing these they're
00:50:15
selling or they're writing but you you make money during the day you collect it at night so you go out in the world and
00:50:22
that's how you get bits yeah yeah yeah mhm look at things different do you have any bit you haven't that's just in your
00:50:27
brain right now and you haven't done it in your act just the thing you're working on yeah tons I know and you want
00:50:33
to S you want one well I I just I had a a notion I don't have any tried to
00:50:38
finish we'll fix it right now you probably have thought of this the a question announcements uh I've got a
00:50:43
little bit of a grip on it that I did earlier to you yes uh no more stop
00:50:48
announcing I have a question right one question well that's in your my question
00:50:53
yeah I'm working it I'm working you fell into the Trap that was a bit so that was I kind of knew that and I was sort of
00:50:59
it's an assist yeah that was an assist made yeah so that's one that's I'm my thing is this because the phone is
00:51:05
always going in and out of the car talking to someone I'm taking you into the car now I'm going for a ride can I
00:51:11
just have a conversation I'm putting you in my ear oh okay that's funny I dropped
00:51:16
my wife said the other day I oh I just dropped you in the trash so oh that's really funny that's a concept that's so
00:51:23
much more you that you can run with it you're giving it to me I am I don't want it I that's too sweet that's too nice
00:51:31
it's something something you could make I have enough yeah you've you've already done so much for me just having me on
00:51:37
the show you're our biggest guest in quite a long time that's cool so give me
00:51:42
I don't want to waste the the not notes that I had about the movie that I liked um I missed the first hour Kennedy we
00:51:50
love Bill Burr Ken he sounded like Kennedy even his regular voice pretty much yeah well Bill bur is the only guy
00:51:57
out of Boston that I've liked since
00:52:03
Kennedy long time yeah a long time yeah those are my two the only two guys out
00:52:09
of Boston that I like PE twins are here yes are they wearing the traditional
00:52:14
golf I think uh meeting's over yeah lot I mean you know him as Kennedy was so
00:52:21
did you have to cut any friends out of the movie and tell them no no MM oh brush over that one okay well
00:52:27
um what what is your favorite scene in the movie if you have one or one one the poptart in launching in the toaster
00:52:34
which I stole from Ron Howard's Apollo 13 I took the same track right uh spirit
00:52:40
in the sky Norman greenbound very cool Pop-Tart launches I just like the energy of that that was like I felt like I was
00:52:46
film making there it's like a felt like a big budget inside a toast that whole thing a rock and the and the funeral
00:52:52
scene uh which was a scene that a lot of people did not want to do they said it won't work it's not on
00:52:59
story uh and I said yeah but this is why you make comedy movies to do something really silly that you think will play
00:53:06
right Mel Brooks the Cowboys come into the Busby Brooklyn what else that whole
00:53:11
movie to me is to just get to that and Harvey Corman saying raisinets at the
00:53:17
candy counter do you remember that yes yeah
00:53:22
count vodila is that is that one of the count vodila hysterical but that's just it's just peppered with
00:53:28
so many jokes that it's hard to remember all them but I just remember going oh it's still going it's still going it's
00:53:33
still funny it's still funny it's over all right before I forget before I forget John Ham's moment with Melissa McCarthy when they're floating flirting
00:53:40
it's just a very worked really I thought John Ham was stood out too were there
00:53:46
all these cameos you had he was so serious yeah about advertising yeah why
00:53:51
are they so mean it's just advertising gets in your face he was so cool about doing that and doing that with with uh
00:53:57
John slau yeah they were really amazing to do that that was a dream that you thought could we get them you think they
00:54:03
would do it yeah so that the other thing I wanted to do that I couldn't I almost did was Chris Rock was going to be the
00:54:12
MC of the bowl and Spoon Awards and we shot that right after the Will Smith
00:54:18
slap and I was going to have somebody come up on the stage and have Chris punch him out as they got there and then
00:54:24
and then Chris wasn't he wasn't up for the to perform he he was still a little shook from that event yeah but that was
00:54:32
that was what that scene was going to be but Cedric saved the day I love Cedric
00:54:37
yeah he was instantly hilarious in that moment do you think that would have been funny if Chris as the MC of the bowl and
00:54:43
spoons somebody comes up on stage and he lays him out
00:54:49
I I think without the Will Smith thing I think it's funny it just sort of there's still kind of a residual Darkness around
00:54:57
that moment yeah yeah isn't that what we're attracted to than anything dark I
00:55:02
this we were in The Writer's room I'd be sitting with you in spy it could be let's think about that you yeah but if
00:55:07
you if Chris is there wants to do it you get it I don't know if it would have worked you can always trim it it was an
00:55:13
idea always get the shot yeah yeah so what was your first cut how long was it cu the movie is like 85 minutes minutes
00:55:20
and there's not a chance in hell I was going to go over that M I don't know how long the first cut was but I definitely
00:55:26
pulled out at least 15 wait you you had a number in your head first oh yeah wow Woody I I uh what I I do the Woody com
00:55:34
Woody would go 81 82 MH and everyone's happy no one's not happy with Annie Hall
00:55:42
is too short we do we do comedy we get in we get out yeah you said I think you
00:55:47
said about stand up but maybe I asked you just off the Record a party or something like at a certain point it
00:55:53
gets to be people like even Rock was his special I half I go why don't you save a half for the next one just do a tight
00:55:59
hour and he goes nah I think they expect it from him maybe but I was like I'm from the school of after an hour it
00:56:05
starts to get what they expect is not our business it is our business don't
00:56:11
give them what they want you think they know what they want if they knew what they want they wouldn't have to pay to
00:56:16
get it let's get that on a
00:56:21
t-shirt yeah I I feel like oh when I'm watching someone and it goes over a certain amount I start to lose and
00:56:28
that's when I start to go God I love comedy and I'm starting to go [ __ ] how long is this you can ruin it so fast
00:56:33
yeah and I learned that watching Jerry Lewis and Sammy Davis at the Sands in Vegas in Vegas and Jerry came
00:56:41
out he did 45 uh Sammy came they did another hour together and then Samy
00:56:50
started singing and it was like this is now not a good experience I always felt the Jerry Le tell was too
00:56:58
long anything Sammy can go on a long time I was sitting with Kevin Pollock's about to go on The Tonight Show he's out
00:57:04
of his mind I was just there visiting so excited sammi's singing so Sammy gets to
00:57:10
thing cu the name a love and then he breaks it down break it down break
00:57:17
it and I just see Kevin just deflating in The Green Room there's a knock maybe
00:57:22
next time [Laughter] I want to hear more stuff you like that
00:57:29
makes me feel good stuff that I didn't like made me laugh your first name is is uh trap pop trap pop did you see it
00:57:36
coming that we were G to it was a mirror image yeah the Silly Putty but I like
00:57:41
cuz you know you I knew it's going to change I didn't know how you were going to find figure that out we didn't either
00:57:47
and that was a great way to figure we didn't either doesn't make sense exactly yeah it's the exact reverse Words
00:57:54
letters rather I said if he's [ __ ] cheating this no I didn't um there was a big discussion of should we show it on
00:58:00
the Silly Putty spelled backwards or make it say poptart back and forth and that we we
00:58:06
like to do what it would really look like with the letters would be backwards funny when it's a bad name and everyone's like
00:58:13
yes it sounds horrible means nothing snap crackle pop Bobby Monahan uh those
00:58:19
three characters Mikey that wasn't Bobby moik was I saw the movie Mikey day
00:58:27
I don't know you did a great movie recently do you still want to do another do you you what are you talking about
00:58:33
wrong Missy yeah wrong Missy was great uh wrong Missy thank you bud uh yeah I I I I have one I wrote one was theovon
00:58:40
know Theo comic so we're trying to do that uh hopefully end of summer this year oh great fantastic so we wrote it
00:58:46
together so right even if you like one of us just come to that one great yeah it's who are you working with it's about
00:58:53
serial it's a little bit of a bump Netflix no uh I wrote that we don't know yet oh okay cool we don't know who the
00:59:00
lucky Winner Is Yet right embarrassing you got James Marson in there too yeah
00:59:05
James Marson James Mar did you see jury duty that he did no oh it's amazing I heard about it yeah mock documentary
00:59:12
yeah and the the bloopers I always like out takes at the end yeah I do singing
00:59:17
dancing laughing breaking character you know it's just fun so I the movie is just fun and I do think that this will
00:59:25
get a little I gist you'll have a strong opinion about this this is so trite right now you know with the way the
00:59:31
world's going we need I know you're I'm going to begging you I knew you know in
00:59:38
these troubled times Mr Seinfeld I will pay money for you to stop
00:59:43
talking do you have to get the cast to stay to shoot the song yes at the end of
00:59:50
the day when they're tired yes how was that not fun
00:59:56
I knew it anything extra on a day is like I gave a spike gets all the credit
01:00:01
for that I could not ask them he would he thought it would work I never thought it would work it it does work because
01:00:08
the song is cute and it just gets you off you know you cow farting thing when you're running through the cow fart
01:00:14
thing yeah what did you think what were you thinking during that that actually happened to spike in real life as a kid
01:00:20
Ser he was they forced him to exit a dairy barn between two cow cow a line of
01:00:27
cows and I just found that so funny he was so traumatized by it as a kid so we put it in the movie your character
01:00:33
traumatized there's nothing else to make him feel bad I can't get clean you're kind of having a nervous breakdown I can't wash it out of my mind that was it
01:00:40
what about you're clean now what about my mind I can't unsee it something like
01:00:49
that do you still have this Mount Rushmore is just something someone lied about Richard prior Carlin Cosby Rickles
01:00:56
is that close yeah okay yeah but I do think I started the Mount Rushmore Trend
01:01:02
Oh by saying the Mount Rushmore of something of something I think and and and my uh my adviser Tom Keeny agrees
01:01:12
that that's I did it with Rickles to introduce Rickles what's your
01:01:17
uh comedy standup mm you don't want to hurt anyone's feelings but no no but if you go back to there's there's two ways
01:01:24
for me to think of it like now looking back but like in the 70s they were all magic I saw prior on Ed Sullivan doing
01:01:32
regular stand up sure of course and they were all magic to me Jonathan winners um
01:01:37
absolutely des and and you know um Carlin you know Carlin you have to put
01:01:44
in there and I think that that prior Carlin Winters you got one more slot well then mid 70s like Steve Martin Peak
01:01:53
Steve martinr that's pretty great group and Robin Williams who sorry we're out of
01:01:59
time yeah we are out of time who I thought later only so so much Stone about Robin and what he was very he's
01:02:07
like oh I think I might have taken material from you you know he was very very shy about stuff I said I try to
01:02:12
take your whole act I mean his the artif the thing that he presented was a Shakespearean actor right is pushed out
01:02:19
on the stage with no material and that was the brilliant conceit and he's just
01:02:24
wandering around and I don't know what I'm doing and he picks up his brave for those of you on said this is a Frisbee
01:02:30
and he go and so that was his genius so I think those Steve Martin and Robin at
01:02:36
that time for me the rhythm of Steve uh excuse me the freedom of Steve
01:02:43
his freedom on stage is still stunning to watch we'll talk about a performer of
01:02:49
expressing Joy the character the happy idiot so likable yeah was so so you know
01:02:55
but a very calcul cated yeah Joy meticulous meticulously calculated to be
01:03:00
funny slash Dum it's got to be funny dumb it's very hard to do yes in in the
01:03:06
it's a recipe the acting of it because he we were talking with him and he goes we've talked about the excuse me and he
01:03:12
goes oh it's just a catchphrase but I go no no no I saw you do it at The Boarding House you say can I get a blue spot yeah
01:03:19
right can I get a blue spot and and you work your way to that right excuse me after just ask for a blue spot can a you
01:03:26
know he also says that's the brilliant thing then you excuse you think it's an actual screw up when I was listening to an album and I'm sitting there riveted
01:03:32
and he goes can I get a blue spot for this and then he then he waits and he goes blue spot and then he goes red red
01:03:38
or blue doesn't matter and then he keeps inching up then he stops playing and he goes you know
01:03:44
what's funny I come here I get up I write jokes you know the whole [ __ ] setup and you think so I'm like someone
01:03:51
actually [ __ ] up you know and it made the album that's what I you asked me to name your Mountain Rush I think I could
01:03:57
spend an hour and I wouldn't get it I could not guess your comedy standup
01:04:04
taste but the audience and I are dying to hear it we want to hear your you can
01:04:09
go I have one more I'm going to talk about you can't add anymore it's more people Jer but Jerry it's the best
01:04:18
guy for me yeah on talk shows the best guy ever Rickles Rickles Rickles okay I
01:04:25
had to say it yeah Rickles and Rodney interestingly no one ever talked about
01:04:30
this and probably shouldn't the the two most exciting guys on The Tonight Show
01:04:36
tough to do an hour for both of them MH oh they style for an hour that's why he
01:04:42
had the band Rickles The Genius of him no joke it was so dry as a kid it just
01:04:48
made me laugh he'd be out there with Johnny and Ed Ed doesn't know the show's talk Ed's in the corner give him a cookie pack him an ice there's no real
01:04:55
joke it's just all those are jokes those are jokes well they're just it's that's it's stylist mookie yeah yeah ice they
01:05:04
sound like jokes who cares yeah before you can answer so you know why and I just want to answer because those guys
01:05:11
were 100 meter sprinters they were sprinters right and then other comedians are long distance middle distance guys
01:05:18
Bob newart Bob newart longdistance Runner so it's hard I I couldn't even do
01:05:23
it come on you got to give a shot start with Jerry I don't know I know I i' probably
01:05:31
because it changes over the years that's why I was asking you yours because you've seen so many since Rickles that
01:05:37
has anyone even put up a fight that's a different question but the question mine
01:05:42
would be God dang I never even thought of it I know I know St specials is one
01:05:47
way to do it I know Steve Martin for sure because I listen to album so much uh and uh
01:05:54
prior prior we had his eight tracks um if I have to have a black guy
01:05:59
in there um you do yeah there you go you got to
01:06:05
have one it's out of four if you want to keep doing the show yeah um that's Long
01:06:11
Beach that's his special in Long Beach Long Beach yeah that is is that what it was or Suns said well he walks out well
01:06:18
Long Beach is where he walks out the crowd is still coming in they're still coming in he's opening up for GL for
01:06:23
someone he's doing Patty Lael yeah he's filming a special that he they said he
01:06:28
was opening for someone is that possible no no no Patty leel opened the that sounded crazier okay but that yeah yeah
01:06:35
crazy so he walks out is what you're saying he walks out when they don't even introduce me yeah there no introduction
01:06:40
in the crowd's still coming in and talking love it see you got to shut the [ __ ] up or can't s my sorry my best
01:06:49
Cosby because you you like a little pill come on David I mean if we I I I'm going
01:06:56
to go back early like you did because that's what shaping right uh I would maybe put Carlin because I did go see
01:07:02
him even at the celebrity theater in Arizona when I was 14 right and it what about Sam Sam Kennison yeah yeah I I I
01:07:10
saw what about Bernie Mack Bernie Mack Bernie ma when I want to laugh and
01:07:16
I'm just you know that's who I YouTube Prime get out of the desert go to where
01:07:22
the food is go where there yeah go where the the food and I saw him at finny
01:07:27
bones you might remember fny bones in Arizona and I would get be an MC same thing drove him to his condo I had me go
01:07:33
get him beer and do all that and then he had a pile of coke and he said uh you want some and I go no and he goes okay
01:07:40
you can stay and he was with Robert Townsen and Robert Townsen said he
01:07:45
didn't want any part of that so he goes can you run me to my room so I drove him to his hotel and thirstily came back to
01:07:52
hang out with kenneson cuz I loved him so much and I did want to do and I didn't want to do his cuz I didn't want to look like a m one of my favorite
01:07:58
kenison lines is from a movie the the Rodney movie what was it called back to school back to school when he asks about
01:08:06
uh why we went to Vietnam and he goes is she
01:08:11
right before he goes into the ramp you know is she right holding the rage you
01:08:17
know okay I I thought of I thought Kennison when you said that and I go I don't know there's too many people to
01:08:22
think of but kenison I had to say was not really fair it really shocked me kenison and I was like [ __ ] when you see
01:08:29
people that really put you on your heels like and you go [ __ ] that's new that's a new angle that's new but there are
01:08:36
comics and I and I'll I'll say that I think we're all pretty good at you can see you don't need an hour you can see
01:08:42
one joke and you say it might be a fluke if it's good and if you see another good one you go okay he's good that's right
01:08:49
you remember the Westwood comedy store I went there like I was there like a
01:08:54
Tuesday night at midnight maybe eight 10 people yeah um first guy comes up
01:08:59
dressed like Elvis you know and he's kind of going around like that and he goes with the cigarette yeah yeah you
01:09:06
know dice dice I'm gonna get you you know and he was so electric so [ __ ] then Ken came up oh the same show he goes he
01:09:14
goes there is no God and he took his Beret off and he was bald there's no God
01:09:19
and he got a guy so frenzy the guy got up and took his pants down yeah go yeah
01:09:24
he was just like I never SE like it so I tried to get K work I couldn't get him work cuz I went back to San Francisco
01:09:31
and they go what is he done who is he well you'll find out I also love Pablo Francisco do you know him all about him
01:09:37
absolutely I love that guy that see now that's the kind of guy I don't see anymore same same energy yeah remember
01:09:44
those there was guys that crazy they're crazy Alman yeah Jeff miss those guys I
01:09:50
feel like we don't see a lot of that kind of that energy and just pure madness madness barely under control
01:09:58
know did he later on do his thing where he played a video game character with music and lights and he's walking around
01:10:04
like a who Pablo oh yeah no pabl does a lot of tech techno club I I watch him
01:10:10
all the time all the time just because I want to laugh uh Alman Bernie Bernie
01:10:17
Mack uh old I love watching Sam's first Letterman and then I'll watch the second one cuz I like uh the first one he was
01:10:23
nervous and the second one he knew this stick works this character works he had a long coat oh yeah and uh I love the
01:10:31
way he took the mic nobody took the mic on a stand on Letterman in those days he
01:10:37
hand it to you or you used the boom which was so weak I was on a Tonight Show with Carson and Sam was out there
01:10:43
doing his thing and then he starts to do something you're not supposed to do I guess or he kind of x-rated and I I'm
01:10:49
Johnny's next to me he's going oh sham no sham to himself no oh sham no no
01:10:55
don't sham don't you think he's [ __ ] up Dana anyway really no I didn't say that to but I was there and Carson said
01:11:02
no sham oh sham he's out there just how how great was Carson he really did love
01:11:09
Comics yeah you know for all his other political structures that he put Comics
01:11:15
through you know they created the hierarchical structure to I don't know why Jim mcau that is that what you're
01:11:22
talking about no I'm sure it was maybe it was Fred de cordiva you come on you don't sit down until you're approved you
01:11:29
don't just come out not do stand up until you're approved it was a hierarchy that they built MH even though we were
01:11:36
the best part of the show yeah people wait for that stand I remember your first set do you well I don't remember this
01:11:43
did you get called over no but he called me back out I walked behind the curtain and he made me come back out and take a
01:11:49
bow you killed that hard no I didn't it was he I was not happy with it that I
01:11:55
thought it was good but everybody was killing and I didn't know in those days that if I don't have a mic in my hand I
01:12:01
can't do it my my thing doesn't work did you use the boom I use the boom and I don't I can't do it it's so different
01:12:08
yeah I can't make my stuff work with a boom well you don't have any Dynamic without a mic CU then you can go a little bit closer have no vocal Dynamic
01:12:15
and you can't move yeah uh physically yeah yeah and you're so used to every
01:12:21
set you're doing is practicing like this right and you walk out the one that matters and you're like what am I doing
01:12:26
what do I do with my hand so what are you excited about doing David in in the near term okay that's a good one
01:12:32
um I uh I think uh movies are hard I like them if if I like to do them right
01:12:38
so uh what do you like about it I think I like when they come out when they're when they're done when
01:12:44
they're you like when they come out the process kind of doing anything sitting there sometimes they're fun to do and
01:12:50
then it's fun but if if if you're just doing it for the money which I've done in the past if you're doing it you don't love
01:12:56
admit that yeah but you you can tell which ones and um but when you get one
01:13:02
that's like like the wrong Missy that does well that becomes worldwide and
01:13:07
then Ted call all those people then then you feel like oh one worked and I really like when a Comedy Works and you go oh
01:13:13
it actually worked the whole way because the interesting was reading it and it's funny and it gets funnier and doing
01:13:18
scenes about halfway through I go wait we still have these scenes D that are supposed to be pretty funny if it works
01:13:24
this actually might might be good and you never know something interesting about movies is no one has it solved no
01:13:30
one has correct or they just make good movies not can if you go 100 movies AFI
01:13:37
and you're looking to watch a movie God or even like best science fiction there like 10 good science fiction movies
01:13:43
let's just if I mean obviously comedies our category greatest comedies ever made
01:13:48
oh and or movies that we think are what we would call Great comedic movies that
01:13:54
is a short list right what I was goingon to say in terms of the standup you say yours and I'll agree our first exposure
01:14:00
Jerry to funniness yeah was probably abat cell meets Frankenstein yep and
01:14:07
Jerry Lewis movies meets Frankenstein love movies yeah I remember those being
01:14:14
big so the fun of movies are like you're making this movie and then you think of
01:14:20
oh you're like those guys well you're just you're you're be you're trying to do something like they
01:14:25
it's almost impossible and they didn't make every movie it was great no Aban costell goes to Mars it's terrible the
01:14:31
trick is you have to meet Frankenstein those guys aren't their movies are not great if you wanted to show an alien how
01:14:38
funny Laurel and Hardy was you're not going to show them the features you're gonna show them the shorts well here's I
01:14:44
have a okay I won't say this question how do you feel because someone was on the podcast recently mhm and it was
01:14:50
Michael Keaton and said as a kid he didn't really get the three stoes you
01:14:56
know and then it now he loves them not a that was not a fan but I watched I
01:15:02
watched anyway because of Curley Curley was so gifted such a genius yes the
01:15:08
other two especially Mo you not funny well they were in their early 60s when they started like Mo would try to get
01:15:16
them back on track though okay when things are things are going wrong which is a lot of the time studio exact what's
01:15:23
a great comedy film to you yeah go you have five seconds
01:15:29
uh I I am not in any way comparing what I did in any way shape or form but I
01:15:36
watched Blazing Saddles the other day and I felt like oh I'm in this universe
01:15:42
I'm in this universe this the the real the the reality tone of what I of this
01:15:47
one is in that Universe Mel Brooks having a gov on the back of the jacket
01:15:53
yeah you know the big band in the desert you know things that we know are not really happening and but we we like
01:15:59
punches the horse that incredible knocks out the so uh yeah wow um I would
01:16:06
probably have to go Marx's Brothers um I think the Marx's Brothers they pacing
01:16:12
today is still quick yes you know uh in the way they work because they worked it out on the ti the pacing the complexity
01:16:20
of the bits uh phys the physical bits with dialog so I would I would pick one
01:16:27
of theirs there's a few of course that are great what about something like airplane that's sort of crazy airplane
01:16:32
absolutely absolutely uh you know Manhattan Woody
01:16:39
you know I don't think is it is funny I don't know it's is Midnight in Paris is I think a great Wood movie and and funny
01:16:46
great absolutely great you know yeah can you do you fight yeah you know the guy who played him yeah no and and you know
01:16:54
um Owen Wilson was the perfect surrogate voice for Woody yeah incidentally
01:17:00
because Woody's like no you're terrific woman and then Owen's like terrific yeah
01:17:06
wonderful well I was just wondering if you maybe want to go to a museum today in was he in the Seinfeld not the the no
01:17:14
That Seinfeld sketch not the Woody Allen I think that was what sketch we did a
01:17:19
Woody Allen sketch oh really we did one Jason the one I saw today is today was
01:17:24
you play the Talk the game show host with me and uh Schneider and Sandler stand up and win yeah stand up and win
01:17:31
that's a huge one that was funny the way you played the host was very very funny how about when you're the teach okay the
01:17:37
energy is waning guys I know where where is it when you play the teacher and we're all in the audience and you go
01:17:43
what's the capital of and Farley goes like this and you go it's not German he goes he puts his hand down I think it
01:17:50
was me Sandler that was I like seeing that it showed up and I was like oh it's
01:17:55
so fun to see old ones it's like a group of everybody and it's funny and you were there and it's funny okay that's it I
01:18:01
gotta go Jerry um I got to wrap this up I got a million things going to so Jerry Seinfeld what's what's next oh what's
01:18:10
next you've just done model for kth remember when you modeled that I did yeah a lot of people like that how do
01:18:16
you do with reviews because I love bad reviews I love them you love bad yes why
01:18:23
wouldn't you hate it it makes it's of course I didn't make it for you particularly I made a movie that bombed
01:18:30
in 1988 it's called opportunity KNX and I'm just I remember opportunity I'm casually talking to I'm Cas you
01:18:36
do talking to Bill Murray it's a Wednesday the movie's coming out Friday yeah Bill Murray very seriously says to
01:18:43
me can you can you get out get out of the country I mean could you go to the woods I mean he's assuming the reviews
01:18:49
will literally destroy me really any way you could hike somewhere and just be away from all
01:18:56
but yeah I got some bad ones yeah but as comedians it's not fair because we have
01:19:03
uh we have Iron Man suits that we wear in Show Business which this was the
01:19:08
biggest thing that I experienced doing this movie is seeing the lives of these actors and how different it is from our
01:19:15
lives they are they they to have a house like this like you have they're sweating
01:19:22
out each gig this I have to kill in this this has to work or things that's it or
01:19:28
there could be a downturn you and I we don't think like that yes we want our stuff to work but you got this metal
01:19:35
Iron Man suit that nobody can get off of you you can go out and work yeah you can
01:19:41
go out and work whatever you want it was revolutionary to John Lovitz when I convinced him to try it yeah how's he
01:19:48
doing with it he loves it he goes because the movies are they edit they cut my part all that then he goes he
01:19:54
goes go to the club they go here's your dressing room there's the stage I do my
01:19:59
timing they give me a check you could not believe the arithmatic thing that standup is it's
01:20:05
kind of the most interesting thing about our careers is we lived through what it was at the beginning to what it is now
01:20:13
it changed underneath us yes and I I give uh Ted serenos a tremendous amount
01:20:18
of credit for this he he changed who comedians are in the culture he changed
01:20:23
it definitely yeah I went on Berke Cher's podcast he goes I'm I'm playing Berlin tomorrow night wow you know these
01:20:31
Netflix specials are Global yeah you know hundreds of millions of people yeah God Bless America all right all right
01:20:37
what what I'll just my final thing what are you going to do the rest of the day you're going to go meditate to get energy I'll go meditate and uh I'll just
01:20:45
I got to come up with a bit weekend upate I'm doing Weekend Update oh this weekend I need a get and I need a bit I
01:20:51
don't have a bit you don't have a bit you're you're booked you're just kind I don't I'm I I won't do it if we don't
01:20:56
I'm going to call Colin Jose and we're going to try and come up with a bit right okay what could you do they've invited me I I mean I have to do it
01:21:02
because when your movie comes out and you're on SNL you're officially uh you know the the the guy of the weekend you
01:21:09
want to be the guy of the weekend right uh you absolutely should I'm just starting to think of what you're what you could do but did you see the bid I
01:21:15
did with the president of poptarts calls me into the Board Room Kelvin kelman P
01:21:20
gasworth yes I mean was that in the no that was just a promotional bit that we
01:21:26
I saw it yeah did you like it it's not with the guy Jeff where the guy says how do you feel how do you feel people just
01:21:32
take your stuff and do whatever they want I go you mean like friends I didn't see that I like cuz he
01:21:38
goes I'm going to take your stuff friends friends the sitcom took stuff from Seinfeld
01:21:44
well we got our we got our trender that's all we needed Jerry that's going to go all over the world I saw that
01:21:51
promo and you need that that stuff's floating around on Instagram yeah yeah so what do you do on there anything in
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the news lately anything non prootest that's in the news lately
01:22:02
yeah yeah all right I'll I'll hit you with some stuff later I don't want to say in front Okay how does that stuff get written on the show I mean the
01:22:10
updates yeah update G you want to have somebody on just to do an update yeah usually usually it starts like right
01:22:15
after um probably the read through on Wednesday you kind of you would go to
01:22:21
the update guy at the time herb Sergeant when I was there I'm thinking to do update thing it just gets in The Ether
01:22:26
but if they say we have Seinfeld this week they might even say it earlier in the week but if the writers are freed up after they wrote their sketches they go
01:22:32
everybody let's brainstorm okay and we'll come to in with three ideas okay so I should say to them see what you can
01:22:38
cook up if you could have if you could have Hugh Grant you you're doing
01:22:43
something and then Hugh Grant comes in probably can't London yeah but he also was uh God incredibly funny I love you
01:22:50
grant yeah it just something about that ACC he's what men used to be the hard hard drinking fun just yeah
01:22:58
collar open broad shoulders everything I want to to been yeah he's got really nice shoulders
01:23:04
he does yeah well he look good when you had the horns on and the yeah all right
01:23:10
comedian you know uh Nate barazi has good shoulders almost no comedians have good
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shoulders can you name one I can't um I was thinking about this the other night
01:23:21
Sandler I don't know I'm just Sandler had good shoulders when he was young younger but now not there's our
01:23:27
second rude you really notice shoulders that's your update bit okay col little
01:23:35
shoulders Jay shoulders yeah Jay had them I never had them Jay had them I never had him yeah comedian should then
01:23:42
you show CPS shoulders shoulders here's this comic shoulders s out of 10 here's
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this comic then you just go I know you've probably already done this at home but I'm going to go through with you you guys and then we say who's got
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weak shoulders yeah and you'll never work the relationship between the shoulder and the hip because if you have
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shoulders then you have what else do you need when you're young if you have really good shoulders everyone's going
01:24:08
to like you right yeah right everyone's checking their you're get gigs you're going yeah you're going to get everything get free food yeah people
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love big shoulder guy little shoulders not so much Rickles
01:24:21
surprisingly I saw him once with his shirt off Jack shoulders Jack he has a solo F in his dressing
01:24:28
room all all right so I gotta pee that's enough we did a good job did a good job
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thank fun that was as good as we thought it would be it is it's great
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Podspun Insights

In this episode, Dana Carvey and David Spade sit down with the legendary Jerry Seinfeld for a lively and humorous conversation that feels like a backstage pass to the world of comedy. The trio dives into the intricacies of stand-up, the evolution of comedy, and the making of Seinfeld's new movie, "Unfrosted." With a mix of nostalgia and sharp wit, they reminisce about their early days in comedy, share personal anecdotes, and dissect the nuances of performing live. Seinfeld's insights into the craft are both enlightening and entertaining, revealing the science behind his comedic genius. The episode is peppered with laughter as they discuss everything from the pressures of performing to the absurdities of life, all while maintaining a light-hearted banter that showcases their camaraderie. This episode is a delightful exploration of what it means to be a comedian in today's world, filled with laughter, wisdom, and a touch of chaos.

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This episode stands out for the following:

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  • 90
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  • 90
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  • 90
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Episode Highlights

  • Memorable Moments in Comedy
    Reflecting on unforgettable experiences that shape a comedian's career.
    “The best thing ever in the club was a woman with a napkin.”
    @ 24m 34s
    May 08, 2024
  • The Challenge of Following Great Comics
    Jerry Seinfeld shares his experience of following legendary comedians and the pressure it brings.
    “Following is a philosophical question.”
    @ 26m 31s
    May 08, 2024
  • The Importance of Flow in Comedy
    Comedians discuss the concept of 'flow' and how it affects their performance.
    “Flow is really the word you seek in writing or performing.”
    @ 35m 10s
    May 08, 2024
  • Gagan's Perfect Role
    Gagan's performance in the movie was a perfect fit, bringing humor and authenticity.
    “God, you had Gagan was so funny in this movie!”
    @ 46m 04s
    May 08, 2024
  • Kids Today vs. Our Childhood
    A nostalgic reflection on whether kids today have as much fun as previous generations.
    “I don't think kids are having as much fun today as we had.”
    @ 48m 01s
    May 08, 2024
  • The Daytime Grind of Comedy
    A valuable lesson in comedy: make money during the day, collect it at night.
    “You make money during the day, you collect it at night.”
    @ 49m 51s
    May 08, 2024
  • Cedric's Hilarious Moment
    Cedric's performance was a standout moment, bringing laughter to the scene.
    “I love Cedric!”
    @ 54m 32s
    May 08, 2024
  • The Mount Rushmore of Comedy
    A discussion on the origins of the Mount Rushmore trend in comedy.
    “I think I started the Mount Rushmore trend.”
    @ 01h 01m 02s
    May 08, 2024
  • The Electric Energy of Comedy
    A comedian recalls an electrifying performance that left the audience in frenzy.
    “He was so electric!”
    @ 01h 08m 59s
    May 08, 2024
  • The Hierarchical Structure of Comedy
    Discussion on the approval system in comedy shows and its impact on comedians.
    “You don't just come out not do stand up until you're approved.”
    @ 01h 11m 22s
    May 08, 2024
  • The Evolution of Comedy
    Reflecting on how the comedy landscape has changed over the years.
    “It changed underneath us.”
    @ 01h 20m 13s
    May 08, 2024

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Key Moments

  • Audience Dynamics33:27
  • Comedy Work Ethic49:51
  • Mount Rushmore Trend1:01:02
  • Electric Performance1:08:59
  • Bold Statements1:09:14
  • Iconic Comedy Moments1:10:17
  • Movie Reflections1:12:56
  • Comedy Evolution1:20:13

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