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it just sounds like something bad is
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happening to her I heard her scream no
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stop it I heard some gunshots
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that does not prove that I killed my
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wife we know what happened because the
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video tells us what happened the camera
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doesn't lie
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this time on Killers caught on camera in
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Knoxville Tennessee
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a married couple are killed in their
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home on the eve of retirement
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they're saying Robert as police discover
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body parts abandoned around the house
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it's pretty
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pretty gruesome
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UK
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after a violent attack
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catastrophic head injuries worst I've
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ever seen as her colleagues examine
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every angle to catch her killer oh my
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way up to
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foreign
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[Applause]
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Knoxville Tennessee
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[Music]
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home to Lisa and Joel guy married for 31
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years
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Joel guy senior was a hard worker just a
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your typical East Tennessee and just a
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good guy he worked as an engineer and
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primarily worked in piping Lisa guy was
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a records keeper and secretary for an
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engineering firm here in Knoxville
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Joel had three daughters by a previous
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marriage and in 1988 Lisa and Joel had a
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son together Joel Michael guy Jr
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Lisa guy by all accounts was a really
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dedicated mother
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I know that they liked the outdoors they
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liked being on the water and in 2016
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they were really looking forward to
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retiring they were preparing for a new
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phase in their life so they had spent
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most of their life working and taking
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care of the children and now the
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children were up and out on their own
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and that's what they were looking
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forward to it
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when your kids get up and out you get to
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kind of be a couple again
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they lived well and lived right and they
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were getting ready to enjoy the benefit
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of that
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Jamie Satterfield has been an
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investigative journalist for over 30
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years
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it was Thanksgiving 2016.
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in East Tennessee it's a really pretty
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time but so you have a lot of fall
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colors Lisa guy in getting ready for
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Thanksgiving she had decorated the house
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sisters were coming grandkids were
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coming
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Joel and Lisa were also looking forward
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to seeing their biological son Joel who
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would be returning home for the holidays
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I dare say she was probably a little
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excited about that in that it had been a
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while it was the setup for would have
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been a really happy time for them
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with Joel guy Jr living 600 miles away
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this was a rare opportunity for Lisa to
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spend some time with her son
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I know that leasing was enjoying that
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time with him because she was going to
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go to the store and one of the things
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that she was going to get was his
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favorite ice cream everything seemed on
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the surface really good that night and
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the next morning
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but just two days later Lisa was missing
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she failed to turn up to her last day of
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work and her own retirement party
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the day rolls around and no Lisa so her
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co-workers tried to call her
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and you know she's not answering the
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phone and they knew that that was not in
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Lisa's character to just disappear her
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co-workers grew concerned enough
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that they reached out to the Knox County
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Sheriff's Office
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police officers visited the guy's
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residence and checked in with their
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neighbors
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we're just doing a welfare check just
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make sure they're okay I'm just curious
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when the last time you see I know they
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were here at Thanksgiving because their
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son was with them so that's all their
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vehicles yes sir okay
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Hector Sanchez was assistant district
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attorney for Knox County
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officers were able to determine that the
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vehicles that were registered to both
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Lisa and Joe guy senior were present
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they could also hear a faint dog bark
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inside of the residence
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we'll go over and check I'm not sure
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they're okay
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police couldn't get hold of Lisa or Joel
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on their phones
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to get money for work and looking
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through the front window they could see
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that groceries were present in the foyer
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area and in those groceries it was
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apparent to them that there was
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perishables that were in those bags
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things such as ice cream meats and such
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so that was obviously curious to them
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they did canvas around to the back of
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the residence
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thank you
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see the Hound Dog's not out this is all
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their cars are here they were able to
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determine that the doorknob in the back
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of the residence was completely missing
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so essentially they could see into the
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residents when they looked through that
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hole they could feel an immense amount
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of heat coming from that open portion
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they could smell a strong odor of
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chemicals that was obviously concerning
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to them based on the fact that there was
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no contact with Joel and Lisa guy
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they're saying rod
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police had to get into the house
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they managed to get access through the
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garage and found a back door
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I hear a dog howling Steven Sanders was
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a detective from the Knox County
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Sheriff's Office he arrived on the scene
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to an overheated house the interior door
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was opened and it was I mean it was hot
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it was it was ridiculously hot
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but wait
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the bar and Sheriff's Office
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when you go in there was obviously uh
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groceries in the floor
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there was animal feces throughout the
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house
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and a dog barking
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and as they they got up the stairs you
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could see you know brown staining which
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they believed to be blood
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explode right looks like blood
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officers obviously at this point have a
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heightened alertness they are looking to
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not only determine if someone's okay but
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also to determine whether or not a
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suspect is present in the residence
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and then the top of the stairs they
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found a collection of clothing that was
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covered in what they believe to be human
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blood that was appeared to be cut off of
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a human body that was in a pile next to
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a very large stain of blood
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foreign
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people's hands yeah I think so that's
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what I think
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that's what it looks like
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it's horrific there's puddles of blood
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there's human remains you can't really
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put that into words but you'll never
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stop seeing it
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it's pretty
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pretty gruesome
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you can't back out
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officers cleared the remainder of the
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upstairs and immediately made the
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decision to back out
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officers surrounded the house in case
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anyone tried to flee the scene
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my eyes on this back corner
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on this corner I've got the front if
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there's anybody in that house we'll
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handle it okay
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it appeared the only living being left
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in the house was a dog
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what's up buddy
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he's very hot and distressed right now
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house was made a crime scene and
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cordoned off
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multiple units within the sheriff's
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department moved in and they began
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documenting the scene
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potential weapons cash and cleaning
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products were gathered as evidence
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the police had to find out what happened
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and who the body parts belong to
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[Music]
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somebody out there that's true evil
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and we've got to get them
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[Music]
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mixture of recently bought items
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provided detectives with Clues
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around the clothing were several bottles
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of Highly corrosive acidic based
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Solutions such as muriatic acid food
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grade hydrogen peroxide bleach Liquid
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Fire Drano in the middle of the bedroom
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a workout machine was was tipped over
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that was an indication to them that
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there had been some form of a struggle
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and officers in the corner did find a
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very very large spot in the corner of
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reddish-brown substance in the master
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bathroom
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were two blue storage bins
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they look in there now there are these
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big Rubbermaid containers
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and then when they look in there there
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there's torsos
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[Music]
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but the worst was yet to come
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they get into the kitchen area
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and what they see is that there's a big
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pot a Soup pot sitting on the stove it
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is boiling they weren't sure if it was
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water or a chemical but they could see
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that this had been cooking if you will
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and they look into it
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and when they look into it
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what they see is a human head
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a gruesome Discovery whoever decapitated
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this body was still at Large
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they know nothing about who may or may
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not have been in that home
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all they know is that they have a house
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full
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of body parts and this chemical smell
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the other thing that was unusual is here
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is somebody who has taken Extraordinary
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Measures of chopping trying to boil away
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to literally dissolve these bones make
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these bodies disappear
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but clearly was interrupted in some way
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because it was incomplete the job was
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not done
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disposing of bodies especially when
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people dismember bodies always sounds
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and feels so incredibly gruesome and it
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is objectively but subjectively for the
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person who's doing it they often
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describe it as going into
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problem-solving mode and the problem is
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that they have this body and so the
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solution is anything that will get rid
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of it and so they're no longer seeing
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these individuals as human beings
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they're seeing them as a problem to be
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solved as a body to be removed as
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objects effectively and so that can help
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us to understand why it might seem less
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gruesome to the person who's doing it
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and more just a necessity
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we don't know if it's a random act we
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don't know if it's family we don't know
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anything until we start getting our our
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Clues and putting them together and and
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piecing the piecing it together but
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right off the bat you know that
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whoever's responsible for this has got
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to be caught
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vital pieces of evidence gave the police
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a breakthrough
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we found two receipts from Walmart the
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first receipt was found in the groceries
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that were left in the foyer area just
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through the front door also in
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processing the crime scene the second
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level specifically investigators found
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an additional Walmart bag that had blood
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on it that had medical supplies
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including tape ointments things you
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would use for serious wound to treat
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such as a knife injury in that bag was
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the second receipt
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receipts these days have time stamps on
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them they send some folks to go to the
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Walmart to review surveillance video
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around that time frame
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the Walmart was only two miles from the
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guy's family home
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[Music]
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going into the Walmart being able to
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give them a time stamp for a seat we
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were able to pull a video of what was
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taking place at that particular cash
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register being checked out in the
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self-checkout line
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the video surveillance at the checkout
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helped the police identify the person
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buying the groceries
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we're able to identify some of the
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clothing we believed that was Lisa's
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they were able to determine that
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two days before that Lisa guy was in
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there buying those exact groceries
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[Music]
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made it home with the groceries
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when the police checked the Walmart
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video footage for the time printed on
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the second receipt 3 30 PM that same day
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they made a surprising discovery
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you can tell in the Walmart footage that
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this person and he's got bandages on
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he's clearly injured himself and he's
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buying some bandages and things it would
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appear for his own cuts
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they look at this surveillance video and
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who they see
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is the face that they've seen in that
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house in family photos
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of the Sun
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the son of Lisa and Joel guy senior was
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28 year old Joel guy Jr
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he lived in an apartment in Baton Rouge
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over 600 miles away
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[Music]
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he was working on his undergraduate
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degree from the Louisiana State
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University and he had been doing so
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since he was roughly 18 years old he was
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a smart kid by all indications a smart
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young man and was working on potentially
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becoming a plastic surgeon
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Joel guy Jr also had a difficult
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relationship with his family
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what was a little strange is that wow
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the girls were very close to their
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parents their son
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really never connected with his own
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family from a very young age Joe guy Jr
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he wanted to be away from home and as a
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child he wasn't sent to boarding school
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he insisted on going to a boarding
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school
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Lisa and Joel guy senior had been
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supporting their son financially
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[Music]
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first rent I was paid for his food she
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paid for his vehicle his car insurance
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Joe Michael guy Jr never worked a day in
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his life
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told him they planned to stop supporting
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him so they could retire more
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comfortably
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someone who's so dependent on his
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parents at this point starts to wonder
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well how am I going to survive if my
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parents cut me off and that can lead to
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a spiral of
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catastrophizing of thinking worse and
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worse and worse potential consequences
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and that catastrophizing can make you
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think well the only thing I can do is to
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somehow figure out how I can still get
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that money and
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that might lead you to fantasize about
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ways to do that and fantasizing can
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include
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maybe thinking about ways of taking
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advantage of people or of maybe even
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killing people
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two days after Thanksgiving Joel guide
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Jr was supposed to be back home in Baton
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Rouge
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but the Walmart footage showed that he
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was still in Knoxville Tennessee
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the distance between Knoxville and
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Louisiana is pretty significant I mean
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we're talking five or six hundred miles
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a car drive of you know eight to ten
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hours so to have Joe Michael guy Jr
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still present in Knox County days after
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he was thought to have been gone that
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was significant to our investigation
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on closer inspection the CCTV footage
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also revealed Joel guide Junior's
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physical condition
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this angle of the video from Walmart is
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real important to us it's a
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self-checkout which allows us to see the
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items purchased which match the items at
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the residence it also allows us to see
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his hands which shows us that he has
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injuries and wounds on his hands
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[Music]
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the police found footage of Joel guy
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Jr's car leaving Walmart which meant
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they could track his license plate
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the FBI task force and they actually
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located the vehicle and
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him in the apartment back in Baton Rouge
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so they just set up surveillance and
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watched that why me and detective McCord
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began our travel to Baton Rouge
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when they got there they arrested Joel
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guy Jr he was taken into custody police
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found another trail of receipts inside
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his apartment
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in connection with the investigation
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officers were able to ascertain that Joe
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Michael guy Jr had been buying various
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supplies in and around the Baton Rouge
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area in Louisiana
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[Music]
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17 days before Thanksgiving Joel guy Jr
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was captured on camera at Ace Hardware
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in Louisiana
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this video is of him purchasing heavy
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chemicals Drano
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and so forth that were the same
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chemicals that were found here which
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helps us prove premeditation
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this is him at a Home Depot
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going through self-checkout purchasing
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the garden hose purchasing a garden
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sprayer bleach sprayer and a spray
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bottle
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and we have him walking out
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[Music]
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police match the items in the video with
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the same items found at his parents
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house in Knoxville
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they also discovered another chilling
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piece of evidence as the law enforcers
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are searching this house one of these
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rooms belonged or had at one time
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belonged to Joe guy Jr and so when they
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go into that room they find he
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had left a backpack it had his laptop in
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it but it also had this
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college rule notebook
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and when they open it up what they see
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is Page after page after page of
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handwritten notes
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the best description of its contents I
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would call this a murder book
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his notebook laid out that he wanted to
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render his parents into a liquid form
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and then put them into the public
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Waterway before he lit the house on fire
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to get rid of any evidence
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Joel guy Jr was putting his detailed
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plan into place in the days leading up
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to Thanksgiving
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the video evidence was damning
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Walmart Louisiana he is purchasing the
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bins the blue bins were what we located
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in the master bathroom with the human
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remains
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18 or 20 days before these brutal
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murders he's out in Baton Rouge in the
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surrounding area buying all these
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supplies that were all captured on
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various surveillance closed circuit TVs
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foreign
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the importance to it to us was it showed
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his premeditation
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and his intent
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for what had happened back in Knoxville
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through DNA analysis forensic
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Pathologists found that the body parts
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in the house belonged to Lisa and Joel
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guy senior
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their son Joel Michael guy Jr was
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charged with two counts of first-degree
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murder and abuse of a corpse
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when you think about a case that
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involves someone who is accused of
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chopping up his parents the first
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thought I think that anyone would have
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is he's got to be crazy I'm certain that
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his defense team would have loved to
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pursue an insanity defense because they
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have nothing else but he refused it was
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almost as if he were offended that
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anybody would be questioning his
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intellect
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Joel guy Jr was comprehensively captured
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by the net of surveillance
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he was sentenced to life in prison for
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two counts of first-degree murder and
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dismemberment of his parents Joel guy
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senior and Lisa guy
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at the trial the full extent of the
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horrific details of what happened were
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revealed
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[Music]
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he did kill his father first when his
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mother was out grocery shopping and the
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reason he did that he could have
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accomplished The Act of Killing the
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bigger threat which would be his father
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he did that in the upstairs kind of
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spare bedroom slash exercise room we
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believe that perhaps his father was
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engaged in working out when he was
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attacked there was proof from the
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medical examiner that he was stabbed in
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the back multiple times there's also
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proof that Joe Vass senior fought back
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which ultimately led to Joe guy Jr
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obtaining a pretty serious wound to his
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hand
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further proof established that once Miss
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Lisa guy got home from Walmart based on
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the collection of the groceries that
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were not put away with perishables she
00:24:19
was likely lured upstairs and the minute
00:24:21
that she reached the top of the stairs
00:24:23
is where she was
00:24:24
attacked and murdered Joe guy senior was
00:24:27
disarticulated at his hips
00:24:30
and also at his elbows and hands
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Lisa guy was decapitated
00:24:38
she was disarticulated at the kneecaps
00:24:41
and we believe that that was in order to
00:24:45
render his parents in a position where
00:24:48
he could put their remains in each one
00:24:49
of those blue storage tubs
00:24:52
despite the measures that he took the
00:24:54
planning he took his plan did fail and I
00:24:57
think a lot of the reason his plan
00:24:59
failed was based on the fact that Joe
00:25:01
guy senior fought back Joel Michael guy
00:25:04
Jr had to leave the state of Tennessee
00:25:07
and drive roughly five to six hundred
00:25:10
miles to seek medical attention
00:25:12
we were able to determine that he did
00:25:15
come back to Knox County where he likely
00:25:18
saw that his neighborhood was saturated
00:25:20
with law enforcement and decided to
00:25:22
again leave and go back to Baton Rouge
00:25:27
parasite is when a child kills their
00:25:30
parents double parasite is when a child
00:25:32
kills both mother and father or both
00:25:34
parents it's rare for children to kill
00:25:36
their parents it's even more rare for
00:25:38
children to kill both of their parents
00:25:40
so if a child is going to kill a parent
00:25:42
it's usually one parent and it's often a
00:25:45
boy who is killing their father or their
00:25:48
mother
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Joel Michael guy Jr was made aware that
00:25:55
his parents were going to cut him off
00:25:56
financially and when that was threatened
00:25:59
he decided to kill his parents
00:26:04
it's the coldest motive there is greed
00:26:08
I'm sure he manipulated his mother all
00:26:11
the time and for once she was standing
00:26:13
firm even though it upset her she was
00:26:16
standing for her and I think he realized
00:26:19
that the gig was a and that's when he
00:26:22
put this murder book plan into Plus
00:26:26
Joel guy Jr hoped by killing his parents
00:26:29
he would receive all their savings and
00:26:31
life insurance money but there was
00:26:33
another twist to his financial motive
00:26:36
an emotional one
00:26:38
he was homosexual he had a partner that
00:26:42
lived with him for a while and then they
00:26:44
they separated and they were friends but
00:26:47
Joe got Jr wanted to be with him
00:26:50
and the other individual did not want to
00:26:53
be with him
00:26:55
the individual in question was Michael
00:26:57
McCracken
00:26:59
and in jail Joel guy Jr made a call to
00:27:03
Michael where he revealed his motivation
00:27:05
for killing his parents
00:27:12
we first met 12 years ago and I always
00:27:15
got insanely jealous and it became
00:27:18
blatantly obvious that I didn't need any
00:27:21
of the criteria there has never been any
00:27:23
question about that physically speaking
00:27:25
you know he can bariatric surgery I
00:27:28
could get cheap space implants to give
00:27:32
me any facial blood structure
00:27:42
very very realistic chance of being
00:27:45
happy if I got around to doing that
00:27:49
he wanted the inheritance for himself to
00:27:52
change his appearance and make
00:27:55
the love of his life want him
00:27:58
I don't know what to say I'm
00:28:00
angry and lost and confused and
00:28:02
disappointed and upset and mourning you
00:28:05
like your dad even though I'm talking to
00:28:07
you on the phone is taking everything I
00:28:09
have to process and maintain my sanity I
00:28:12
I found you all the time
00:28:15
you were the only good thing in my life
00:28:18
he did this to take all the inheritance
00:28:21
to change his appearance to make his
00:28:24
significant other want him
00:28:27
and that's basically it
00:28:30
what was particularly disturbing when
00:28:33
you look at that murder book
00:28:35
as
00:28:36
that while he's seated at The Family
00:28:39
Table on Thanksgiving
00:28:41
and he's being friendly and loving on
00:28:46
his family all the while his instruction
00:28:50
manual for killing his parents is up
00:28:52
there in his bedroom and they had no
00:28:54
idea
00:28:57
the role of of cameras as it relates to
00:29:00
this particular case was tremendous all
00:29:01
the security surveillance footage that
00:29:03
we had at various locations I do believe
00:29:06
that it would have been a lot harder to
00:29:07
present the case in the way that we were
00:29:09
able to and to corroborate theories that
00:29:12
we had about the premeditation and
00:29:14
purchasing items and and utilizing them
00:29:17
in the commission of these brutal
00:29:18
murders
00:29:20
the cameras are
00:29:22
very important because they there's no
00:29:25
there's no dispute in who this is and
00:29:28
what is being bought and what was at the
00:29:29
crime scene
00:29:31
this case is obviously one that that no
00:29:34
one wants to be a part of it's a very
00:29:36
heavy case the loss of life and the
00:29:38
manner in which these folks were
00:29:41
murdered is just brutal
00:29:43
it's the strangest defendant that I have
00:29:46
ever encountered
00:29:48
there is something missing in his soul
00:29:51
how can a person be so
00:29:54
so cruel and
00:29:56
brutal not only to just somebody but
00:30:00
family
00:30:02
it's a day that you won't ever forget
00:30:15
research has found that since at least
00:30:17
2020 CCTV has been used more often than
00:30:21
any other kind of forensic science or
00:30:23
technology to identify and charge
00:30:26
suspects
00:30:27
cameras are vital in helping track and
00:30:30
place suspects in or around the scene of
00:30:33
a crime
00:30:33
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00:30:35
the Hamlet of Snowden near alesham in
00:30:39
Kent
00:30:41
home to 53-year-old Julia James
00:30:45
Julia had recently remarried she had two
00:30:48
children from two separate relationships
00:30:51
Julia James was a police Community
00:30:54
Support Officer and she was really well
00:30:56
known in the area because of her role as
00:30:57
the pcso and she was really outgoing
00:31:00
friendly she was a massive part of the
00:31:03
Kent Police Community as well
00:31:05
she was a the a pcso so domestic abuse
00:31:09
police and Community Support Officer
00:31:11
supporting victims of domestic abuse and
00:31:13
she was there to help and that's what
00:31:14
she wanted to do
00:31:16
[Music]
00:31:17
Julia lived next to ackled Wood and
00:31:20
often walked her Jack Russell Toby in
00:31:22
the Woodland and Countryside which
00:31:24
surrounded her home
00:31:26
Kirsty Bennett is a lecturer in
00:31:28
criminology at Leeds Beckett University
00:31:31
Julia used to walk her dog quite
00:31:34
frequently in a Woods which was at the
00:31:37
back of her house and while she was
00:31:39
there she came across a man on a couple
00:31:42
of occasions lurkin which made her feel
00:31:44
quite uncomfortable
00:31:48
Gavin Moss is a senior investigative
00:31:50
officer at Kent Police
00:31:53
Julia had expressed some concerns about
00:31:55
a male she'd seen I think on two or
00:31:57
three occasions she described the person
00:32:00
saying that he was in the area of accot
00:32:02
woods and gave her some calls for
00:32:05
concern this was never ever reported and
00:32:07
that's no criticism of anybody because
00:32:09
people do see things like that and
00:32:11
things don't always get reported
00:32:15
told her husband Paul that she'd passed
00:32:18
a really weird dude on the occultwood
00:32:20
Bridle Path
00:32:22
and on another day when Julia went for a
00:32:24
walk with her husband she pointed out
00:32:26
the same man to him
00:32:28
Paul James Julia's husband mentioned
00:32:31
that he'd seen this person in the
00:32:33
February so February 2021 in the year of
00:32:36
Eckhart would
00:32:43
for 19
00:32:46
to occur either threats or incidents
00:32:49
where they feel like they've been
00:32:50
watched before they report it to police
00:32:52
so you need to have really seen that
00:32:54
person quite a lot in order to raise the
00:32:57
alarm and go to authorities
00:33:03
after their encounters with the strange
00:33:05
man in the woods Julia and her husband
00:33:07
avoided their usual dog walking route
00:33:11
and as an extra precaution Paul bought
00:33:14
Julia a smart watch
00:33:16
that was there as an extra security
00:33:18
safety measure so she could quickly
00:33:20
alert people if she felt unsafe and that
00:33:24
allowed her to go back into the woods
00:33:25
after taking a break from not visiting
00:33:28
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00:33:30
7th April at 12 minutes past two in the
00:33:33
afternoon
00:33:34
Julia left her house and took her dog
00:33:36
Toby for a walk in the nearby Woods
00:33:39
at 2 23 PM she was spotted on a distant
00:33:43
CCTV camera walking through a gap in a
00:33:46
hedge near ackled Wood
00:33:49
this video clip is from a local business
00:33:52
that overlooks the echo wood area and
00:33:55
what it actually shows is an image of
00:33:58
somebody walking along here
00:34:00
this CCTV was cross-referenced with GPS
00:34:03
data from the smartwatch
00:34:06
we were able to say that that individual
00:34:08
was indeed Julia James it showed the
00:34:11
exact route she'd taken from her home
00:34:13
address
00:34:18
peered in the footage Julia's Smartwatch
00:34:20
detected a big change
00:34:23
the Smartwatch indicated that a heart
00:34:25
rate rapidly Rose from 97 to 145 so we
00:34:31
can see that something's a problem she's
00:34:34
moving very quickly
00:34:37
the Smartwatch data also showed Julia
00:34:40
made a detour from her usual route
00:34:48
and her heart rate changed dramatically
00:34:50
it was very clear to say that she she'd
00:34:53
run away our take on that was that she
00:34:55
was being chased and
00:35:00
and walking in the woods and came across
00:35:02
Julia's dog wandering alone I saw
00:35:06
Julia's dog Toby but without an owner
00:35:09
they then went to investigate and sadly
00:35:11
that's when Julia's body was found
00:35:13
[Music]
00:35:15
Julia suffered very traumatic bluntforce
00:35:18
trauma injuries she had a broken wrist
00:35:21
she had multiple lacerations and
00:35:23
injuries to her skull and face the
00:35:25
offender took strides to to Really
00:35:27
injure Julia
00:35:30
she stood no chance of survival and died
00:35:32
very very quickly unfortunately didn't
00:35:35
didn't you know go through too much pain
00:35:41
capable of carrying out such violence
00:35:45
at the time understandably there was a
00:35:47
lot of concern a lot of fear in the
00:35:48
community one of my first thoughts is is
00:35:50
this person going to strike a game where
00:35:53
we end up having another murder that
00:35:55
could follow
00:35:56
the police started to search the area
00:35:59
where Julia's body was found
00:36:02
the area was absolutely enormous it is
00:36:05
by far the biggest scene that I've ever
00:36:07
dealt with we use licensed search
00:36:09
officers to undertake what we call line
00:36:13
searches fingertip searches we use the
00:36:16
Drone we had frenzy recovery dogs out as
00:36:18
well
00:36:20
they're in video evidence was crucial to
00:36:22
the case
00:36:25
I remember saying that one of my
00:36:26
briefings be creative think about other
00:36:29
opportunities think about buses think
00:36:31
about lorries think about delivery
00:36:33
drivers get it as open as we can to make
00:36:35
sure we capture everything possible in
00:36:38
terms of footage that we we had to view
00:36:40
it worked out to six thousand seven
00:36:43
hundred hours worth of footage
00:36:46
but digital forensic analysts spotted
00:36:49
something just under two hours before
00:36:52
Julia was murdered CCTV captured a
00:36:55
person in alsham carrying a bag you can
00:36:58
see that he's walking in the direction
00:36:59
of a gap in a tree line
00:37:02
this individual was carrying something
00:37:04
in his bag
00:37:05
you can't get any facial identification
00:37:08
of him
00:37:09
31 minutes later what seems to be the
00:37:12
same person was spotted again
00:37:15
and then again leaving the area at 3 45
00:37:19
pm
00:37:20
what really helped is that this also
00:37:23
coincides within the time frame of
00:37:25
obviously after Junior was was brutally
00:37:27
murdered so it all starts bringing it
00:37:30
all together about his movements pre and
00:37:32
post what tragically happened
00:37:38
as well as the CCTV footage police also
00:37:41
investigated potential Witnesses who'd
00:37:43
been driving in the area around the time
00:37:46
of Julia's murder
00:37:48
after such a high profile incident the
00:37:51
community was on high alert and a
00:37:53
critical piece of dash cam footage was
00:37:56
recorded by local gamekeeper Gavin
00:37:58
Tucker
00:37:59
oh my way up to
00:38:04
right
00:38:07
yeah
00:38:09
all right what's that about then
00:38:13
yeah where you going then
00:38:17
he described the location he come from
00:38:20
was um the ABS the crime scene
00:38:23
um and that's what aroused Mr Tucker's
00:38:25
suspicions
00:38:31
hastily left the scene
00:38:34
Gavin Tucker needed to act fast
00:38:37
please please
00:38:40
oh yeah it's a
00:38:44
it's an ambitious fella of Justified
00:38:46
approach and he's running off and
00:38:49
there's been a bit of the um a death
00:38:53
um at occult down at Echo at the moment
00:38:57
he then runs away uh and runs along
00:39:00
Addison Road and then as you can see
00:39:02
here he cuts across and runs into to the
00:39:05
wooded area
00:39:07
I felt wood near Dover between Dover and
00:39:10
Canterbury
00:39:12
oh particular interest to us was this
00:39:14
item here which was being carried
00:39:18
the pathologist's report gave the police
00:39:20
critical information about the type of
00:39:22
weapon that was used to kill Julia
00:39:25
from the post-mortem the pathologist
00:39:27
said to me if you're looking for
00:39:29
something cylindrical linear and heavy
00:39:33
on one end
00:39:36
the weapon used to kill Julia hadn't
00:39:39
been located near the scene of the crime
00:39:42
police were looking for anything which
00:39:44
may have fit the pathologist's
00:39:46
description
00:39:50
as well as the dash cam footage Gavin
00:39:52
Tucker managed to take a photo of the
00:39:54
suspect in the field before he ran off
00:40:00
so excited the image to the General
00:40:02
Public
00:40:03
that wanted the whole deal to be cropped
00:40:06
so we didn't show exactly what that was
00:40:08
in the event that we could hopefully
00:40:09
locate that in the future
00:40:13
when police released the image to the
00:40:15
media a witness identified the suspect
00:40:17
as 21 year old Callum wheeler
00:40:23
arrested Callum on Friday the 7th of May
00:40:26
10 days after Julia was murdered
00:40:30
show me your head hey both hands show me
00:40:33
heads step back step back step back
00:40:36
barricading himself in protesting his
00:40:38
innocence right from the beginning and
00:40:40
he resisted arrest
00:40:42
[Music]
00:40:51
within his bedroom uh just over this
00:40:54
side there is what we believe to be the
00:40:57
weapon which then was subsequently
00:40:59
seized
00:41:01
suspiciously during the time of the
00:41:03
offense okay
00:41:07
up against his bedroom wall matched the
00:41:09
item he was seen carrying before and
00:41:12
after Julia's murder
00:41:13
the weapon that was used was actually a
00:41:16
railway Jack handle that is used by the
00:41:19
railways to lift tracks effectively with
00:41:21
it on a Jack was made of fiberglass and
00:41:25
consistent with what exactly what the
00:41:27
pathology said it was linear cylindrical
00:41:30
and it was very heavy on one end
00:41:41
we didn't know a great deal about Calum
00:41:43
wheeler from a police intelligence point
00:41:46
of view very little was known about him
00:41:48
and he was a completely loner in life
00:41:50
he he had no friends
00:41:53
he'd lived in ayush him he'd been in
00:41:55
alsham for a couple of years came from
00:41:57
South East London apart from that we
00:41:59
didn't have a great deal more
00:42:00
as part of the investigation detectives
00:42:03
are looking to create a narrative of the
00:42:04
event to support a successful
00:42:06
prosecution
00:42:08
DNA evidence was vital to put Callum at
00:42:11
the scene of the crime
00:42:13
what we were able then to show was that
00:42:16
we had Callum Wheeler's DNA on Julia's
00:42:18
clothing but also on the weapon we had
00:42:21
Julius DNA
00:42:24
we also had on his training shoes
00:42:26
presence of Julia's blood he was charged
00:42:30
he appeared at court and he was reminded
00:42:34
in custody
00:42:37
in court the full details of what
00:42:39
happened to Julia James on the 27th of
00:42:42
April 2021 were revealed
00:42:45
Callum we're at ambushna and subjected
00:42:48
her to an absolutely brutal and horrific
00:42:52
murder causing absolute catastrophic
00:42:55
head injuries worst I've ever seen
00:42:58
the extent of the injuries is not a
00:43:01
common occurrence because we know that
00:43:04
Julia was likely unconscious from the
00:43:06
first injury and we're seeing the
00:43:08
multiple attacks afterwards which
00:43:11
is not necessarily needed to cause death
00:43:15
Julia was not sexually assaulted in the
00:43:18
sense that she was a victim of a right
00:43:20
we know that because of the forensic
00:43:22
analysis that we did but there were a
00:43:25
few significant issues in relation to
00:43:28
Cannon wheeler that we were able to
00:43:30
establish during the course of the
00:43:32
investigation the presence of Cannon
00:43:35
Wheeler's DNA on a vest top that Julia
00:43:37
had been wearing at the time and that
00:43:40
didn't happen by accident she was
00:43:42
wearing a jacket she was also wearing a
00:43:44
jumper as well and the vest talk was
00:43:47
underneath those items so you know he he
00:43:50
had touched her breast and that all came
00:43:53
to what we've said was a sexually
00:43:55
motivated murder
00:43:59
Callum Wheeler's internet search history
00:44:01
also showed that he'd searched the word
00:44:04
rape just two days before Julia's murder
00:44:08
and his actions after he was arrested
00:44:11
were disturbing
00:44:14
when he got arrested taken into the
00:44:16
PlayStation he exposed himself to a
00:44:18
female police officer a masterbite in
00:44:20
front of that officer which would have
00:44:22
been absolutely horrendous for that
00:44:24
individual officer to see
00:44:26
had he not been caught the police
00:44:28
believed this could have been the first
00:44:30
in the series of attacks on women in the
00:44:32
area
00:44:33
I can't ignore the fact that he was
00:44:35
walking around with that weapon you know
00:44:37
was it because he wanted it as a trophy
00:44:39
was it because he would have killed
00:44:41
again only one person knows that and
00:44:44
that is Canon wheeler
00:44:45
um because I'm a detective of many years
00:44:47
you know I can't help but think that
00:44:50
potentially we could have had another
00:44:55
had enough evidence
00:44:57
surveillance footage and things like
00:44:58
CCTV are so important for tie-in weapons
00:45:03
belongings
00:45:05
to an offender and the victim an
00:45:08
identifying sequence of events so what
00:45:10
was the offender doing beforehand what
00:45:12
were they doing after the event that we
00:45:14
can put together into that story
00:45:17
my way up to
00:45:19
had we not had CCTV we wouldn't have
00:45:22
seen him holding the weapon before we
00:45:24
wouldn't have seen him holding the
00:45:25
weapon afterwards that could have
00:45:27
presented a defense for him that he'd
00:45:29
found the weapon Callum wheeler was
00:45:32
sentenced to life in prison with a
00:45:35
minimum term of 37 years
00:45:38
I went to the funeral and the impact of
00:45:41
Julia's murder was absolutely
00:45:43
significant
00:45:45
did I treat this any differently to any
00:45:47
other murder I didn't because I needed
00:45:49
to catch him we needed to catch him
00:45:51
because he was quite clear he was a
00:45:53
brutal individual but it is you know
00:45:56
something
00:45:57
different difficult one is one of your
00:46:00
own
00:46:10
foreign
00:46:29
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