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Forensic Files - Season 8, Episode 7 - Once Bitten - Full Episode

December 16, 2021 / 22:08

This episode covers the case of Ray Krohn, known as the "snaggletooth killer," who was wrongfully convicted of murdering bartender Kim Ancona in Phoenix, Arizona. Key topics include forensic evidence, bite mark analysis, and the eventual exoneration of Krohn.

The episode begins with the discovery of Kim Ancona's body in the CBS Lounge bathroom, where she had been murdered. Forensic experts identified a bite mark and shoe print, leading police to suspect Ray Krohn, a regular at the bar who had a romantic interest in Kim.

Despite maintaining his innocence, Krohn was convicted based on bite mark evidence presented by forensic odontologist Dr. Raymond Rawson, who claimed a 100 percent match. However, this evidence was later challenged by other experts who found inconsistencies.

After spending over ten years in prison, new DNA testing laws allowed Krohn's defense team to test evidence from the crime scene. This led to the identification of Kenneth Phillips, a man whose DNA matched evidence found at the scene, ultimately exonerating Krohn.

The episode highlights the flaws in bite mark analysis and the importance of reliable forensic evidence in the justice system.

TL;DR

Ray Krohn was wrongfully convicted of murder based on flawed bite mark evidence but was later exonerated through DNA testing.

Episode

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this man ray krohn was known throughout
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arizona as the snaggletooth killer
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an unusual bite mark on a murdered woman
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resulted in his conviction and death
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sentence
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a forensic expert told the jury that he
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was 100 certain that it was crohn who
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bit the victim he knew he was wrong but
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he had already committed and his comment
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to me was i'm in too deep
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the cbs lounge is one of many
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neighborhood bars in downtown phoenix
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arizona
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hank arredondo owned the cbs lounge
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kim and kona managed it for him
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in the bar business you have to have a
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nice personality you have to be honest
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and all those qualities kim had
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on december 29 1991
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kim closed the bar at the usual time
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shortly after 1 am
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as was his custom hank called to make
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sure there hadn't been any problems
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kim answered i asked her i said is
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everything okay do you have any problems
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and she said no she said hank
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i know you're tired go to sleep rest
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i'll take care of it
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when hank arrived the next day to open
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up
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he noticed the door was ajar
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i know my bartender didn't leave the
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door open i know i didn't
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so something's wrong he first checked
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the safe
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but none of the bar's money was missing
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he went to the kitchen
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no one was there
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then
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he checked the men's room
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i can close my eyes
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and still see that that scene
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i saw her laying in the bathroom
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her eyes fixed
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dead
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i can still remember that to this day i
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probably will the rest of my life
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but
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the girl was beautiful even in death
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the evidence suggests the killer grabbed
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the knife from the kitchen forced kim
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into the men's room
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and stabbed her to death
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he placed the knife in a trash can
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under the liner
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on his way out
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he left a shoe print on the freshly
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cleaned kitchen floor
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forensic experts identified the print as
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a converse brand sneaker size nine and a
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half
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hairs were found on kim and kona's body
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they were black and not hers
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it appeared that the killer had bitten
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through kim's tank top leaving a bite
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impression on her skin
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two drinks were sitting on the bar
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apparently poured after closing time
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forensic scientists found kim's
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fingerprints on one glass
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the other had prints not clear enough
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for identification
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working theory then became she must have
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known who the person was it allowed them
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into the bar against company policy but
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nonetheless
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and thereafter was killed by that person
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robbery didn't appear to be the motive
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there was no money missing from kim's
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purse but inside her purse
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police found an address book with the
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name and telephone number of one of the
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bar's regular customers
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a postman named
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ray krohn
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he was not not well liked you know he
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was just uppity or something there was
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something different about him that
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people that didn't sit well with people
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some of the bars employees told police
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that kim had expressed a romantic
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interest in crone
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if the bite mark the shoe impression and
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the hairs could be tied to him
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police were sure
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they had their killer
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during kim and kona's autopsy forensic
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photographers took numerous photographs
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of the bite wound on her upper chest
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the photograph showed the killer had a
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distinctive bite pattern
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his left front tooth pointed outward
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beyond the line of his other front
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kim's address book contained the name
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and telephone number of a man named ray
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krohn someone she had often spoken with
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at the bar
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kim and kona had told several friends
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that she was interested in rey that she
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liked him you know that she thought
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maybe something could happen
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and those friends in turn relayed that
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to detectives
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ray krohn was 35 years old an air force
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veteran with no prior criminal record
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several bar employees told police that
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kim had a date with crone planned for
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the night of her murder
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when police talked to kim's friends the
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last person that they expected kim and
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kona to meet that night was ray crone
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to
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he was supposed to meet her to help
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close up the bar
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when questioned ray krohn said the two
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were just acquaintances he denied there
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was any romantic relationship
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she was always a nice congenial person
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and very friendly and outgoing and so
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you know
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i i uh
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liked her personality i liked you know
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her bubbliness and things like that
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there wasn't a relationship and crone
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denied that he had plans to meet kim at
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the bar as her friends claimed
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he also had an alibi
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he shared a house with the co-worker who
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said crone was home the night of the
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murder
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but as police questioned crone they
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noticed that his left front tooth
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protruded slightly in a way that looks
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similar to the bite wound found on kim's
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chest after looking at the bite marks on
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kim and kona's body detectives pretty
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readily jumped to the conclusion that
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his teeth matched kim and kona the bite
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marks found on her body
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krone willingly agreed to provide an
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impression of his teeth by biting into a
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piece of styrofoam which is commonly
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used since it's soft but still stable
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forensic odontologists examined a series
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of bite impressions from men who knew
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kim and kona
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they found only one in which the left
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front tooth was clearly extended just
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like the bite mark on the body
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it was ray krones
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i hear you know brakes squealing doors
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slamming i look over and here's a police
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van unloading with officers all armed
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guns pointing at me telling me to freeze
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i was throwing the ground handcuffed and
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taken off and i was charged with murder
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kidnapping sexual assault that was the
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day of my arrest new year's eve of 1991.
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crone maintained he was innocent but he
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had no explanation for why his bite
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impression looked like the wound on kim
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and kona
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it was a
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a very frustrating aggravating
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belittling uh um
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situation where you're just saying why
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what why why won't somebody listen why
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would somebody take a minute and look at
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this intelligently responsibly you're
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going to see that there is a definite
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problem here but the bite wound wasn't
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the only evidence against crone
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the perpetrator left his saliva on kim's
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clothing
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dna tests of that saliva sample were
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inconclusive
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but test revealed the perpetrator had
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type o blood the same blood type as ray
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krohn
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he was arrested and charged with murder
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at his trial prosecutors believed the
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bite impression evidence was the most
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convincing they hired a nationally known
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bite mark expert from las vegas nevada
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to testify that it was a 100 percent
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perfect match better than a fingerprint
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that expert was dr raymond rawson a
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forensic odontologist and also a senator
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in the nevada state legislature
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at the trial
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dr rawson used this video in which
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photographs of the bite wound from kim
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and kona's body were superimposed on ray
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krohn's bite impressions
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based on that evidence
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ray krohn was convicted the first degree
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murder
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and was sentenced to death
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i didn't care if i was going to be in
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prison for something i didn't do it you
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might as well kill me i mean what was
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life my whole life everything i worked
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for everything i stood for 35 year old
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man was gone
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the press called crone
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the snaggletooth killer
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that judge believed the bite marks were
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a form of torture
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um
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and
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because of that he sentenced him to
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death
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but if crone was innocent as he claimed
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how could a nationally known forensic
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odontologist
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be wrong
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ray krohn had spent three years on death
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row for the murder of 35 year old bar
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manager kim and kona
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during that time he formed his own
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opinions about the bite impression
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evidence used to convict him
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i mean you basically could take a sharp
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object stick it in skin a couple places
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and have somebody say oh yeah that's a
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bite mark and uh and it matches him and
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you could get if you showed it to enough
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people you'd have you know somebody
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saying it yeah it's a match
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that's junk
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all death penalty cases in arizona are
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automatically appealed to the state
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supreme court and fortunately for crone
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this bite marked videotape made by the
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prosecution provided grounds for an
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appeal
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the court ruled that the defense team
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wasn't given enough time to review the
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tape before the trial
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for crohn's retrial his family asked
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chris plourde to represent him
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lord specializes in difficult forensic
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cases
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i heard the story you know that ray
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krohn's on death row as a result of a
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bite mark
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i didn't know whether other evidence
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supported his conviction or not i was
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originally kind of skeptical because i
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hear these stories all the time forensic
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experts hired by plourde discovered that
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the hairs found on kim's body were
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[ __ ] hairs meaning they were from
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someone of asian or native american
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descent
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they also discovered that ray krohn wore
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size ten and a half shoes
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the shoe impression found on the kitchen
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floor of the bar was a size nine and a
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half
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the defense brought in dr skip sperber a
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past president of the american academy
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of forensic odontologists to look at the
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bite-wound evidence that more than
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anything else convicted crone in his
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first trial
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what dr sperber told them
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came as a shock he said
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he'd seen this evidence before
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it had been sent to him before the first
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trial
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a good friend of mine john piacus in
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phoenix arizona called me and he asked
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me to look at this particular case the
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people versus crone when i first viewed
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that case
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thought there were too many
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inconsistencies
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for that to be a
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positive comparison between the teeth of
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ray crone
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the suspect and the victim's wounds
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dr sperber told his colleague working
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for the arizona prosecutors that this
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evidence was exceptionally weak
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we say on a range of one to ten
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with ten being very good
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i would have rated this around three or
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four
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on the low side
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here is a bite mark considered on the
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high end of the scale
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a nine or a ten
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all of the teeth have made clear marks
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and the relationships between the teeth
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can easily be seen
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the bite wound on kim and kona had very
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few distinct markings
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dr sperber took the cast of ray krohn's
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teeth
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and using a low-tech but time-tested
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method made a styrofoam impression and
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then
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traced the teeth patterns onto a
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transparency
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he then
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placed the transparency over the top of
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the photo of the bite mark on kim and
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kona's body
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although the left front tooth in both
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marks was jutting forward
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ray krohn does not have any separation
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between his front teeth
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the bite mark on the victim's body shows
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an obvious separation between those
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teeth
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for dr sperber
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the results were clear
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if it's a good bite it will really jump
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out at you and you will see immediately
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similarities in the crohn case there
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were no similarities so this was the key
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evidence and and to get the initial
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report back that a bite mark expert said
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it's not me it was like oh wow you know
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something something good can happen in
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the second trial dr raymond rawson
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the same bite mark expert from the first
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trial repeated his testimony he said
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there was no doubt the bite mark was
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from ray krohn
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a team of defense experts disagreed i
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could positively exclude ray krohn as
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being the biter i wasn't the only one
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there were three other forensic dentists
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that are all board certified highly
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qualified guys
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and they excluded them but the jury
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disagreed
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they sided with the prosecution's expert
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and found ray krohn
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guilty
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again
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what does it take
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what is this uh beyond reasonable doubt
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what is this innocent until proven
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guilty it don't exist in in in the just
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system the one that i've seen it did not
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exist for me we knew that there was
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another person in that bathroom at the
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time of death there were unknown
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fingerprints that came back to somebody
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uh there was a person who had shoes that
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were inconsistent with the defendant the
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hairs were inconsistent with the
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defendant you know the fbi
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uh forensic people testified that these
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hairs were not mr crohn's they were not
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the victims to me logic and common sense
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told me it wasn't mr cronin committed
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this crime and the jury found the
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opposite result when i heard the verdict
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in the second trial i really couldn't
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believe his total disbelief it was an
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absolute dog and pony show the likes of
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which i've never seen before
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ray krohn tried to reconcile himself to
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a life behind bars
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but then
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he got help from an unlikely source
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the very system
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he had grown to despise
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ray krohn
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languished in prison for a crime that
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some of the country's top forensic
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experts said he didn't commit
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just before krone's second trial
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dr richard suveron one of his defense
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experts sat next to the prosecution's
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forensic expert dr rawson at a
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scientific conference
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his comment to me was i'm in too deep he
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knew he was wrong but he had already
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committed and if that isn't a scary
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thing
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uh i don't know what is
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and i hated to see him get sucked in on
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something like this and told him you
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know
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get out of this deal just say i don't
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want to do it anymore or i've changed my
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opinion or there's i've listened to
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everybody else and you know i've
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rethought my position anybody can make a
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mistake i mean we're not none of us are
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above making mistakes
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but he said i mean too deep
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and that was the end of that
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conversation
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through a spokesperson dr rossen denies
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that the conversation described by dr
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seuveron ever took place
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it wasn't until 2001 that a new law
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offered crohn's some hope
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arizona one of the first states in the
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united states passed a
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new bill for post-conviction dna testing
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which allows convicted offenders access
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to evidence and post-conviction dna
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testing if they contend that they were
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innocent
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so crohn's defense team asked the state
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of arizona to test every piece of kim
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and kona's clothing for dna the saliva
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on kim's blouse had already been tested
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and the results were inconclusive but
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her genes had small blood stains
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the prosecution believed the blood was
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chemenconas
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the genes were sent to the state crime
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lab for a new dna test that analyzes 13
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different genetic markers
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the test yielded
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unanticipated results
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the blood on the genes
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wasn't kim and kona's
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and it wasn't ray krohns
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but whose was it
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to find out
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forensic scientists entered this new dna
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evidence into a national dna database
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with genetic profiles of more than a
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million convicts from across the country
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profile after profile was checked and
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cross-referenced
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and the database came up with a match
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to this man
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a 35-year-old native american kenneth
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phillips who was currently in prison for
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child molestation
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at the time of kim ancona's murder
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kenneth phillips lived just 600 yards
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away from the cbs lounge he lived right
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behind the bar
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and his nationality was an american
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indian which which was consistent with
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some of the other dna results we had in
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the hairs it was found at the scene the
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crime when interviewed by police
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phillips made a startling admission
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he said on the morning after kim's
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murder he woke from an alcoholic
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blackout to find his hands
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covered with blood
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then he saw news of the murder on tv
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his fingerprints were among the unknown
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fingerprints found in the bathroom where
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the murder took place
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[Music]
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his shoe size
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matched the print from the kitchen floor
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and his bite impression had the same
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left front tooth protruding from the
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rest of his teeth
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for ray kron
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the ordeal was over
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after serving ten years and four months
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for a crime he didn't commit
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he walked out of prison
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a free man
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i'd spent over 10 years in prison
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i would never forget that day i got out
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in fact i commemorated it
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so i won't ever forget it
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[Music]
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forensic odontologists say that the
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problem with the crohn case was that dr
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rawson told jurors bite marks could
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match like
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fingerprints but that is rarely possible
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the best that a forensic dentist can
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give is reasonable certainty and that
00:20:13
means that that's the highest level we
00:20:16
give there is always
00:20:17
a remote possibility that there's
00:20:19
someone else that has teeth similar that
00:20:21
could have left the pattern
00:20:24
ray krohn
00:20:25
is trying to resume his life
00:20:28
experts say the lesson of his case is
00:20:31
that bite marks are rarely definitive
00:20:34
and should only be used to exclude not
00:20:37
include suspects
00:20:40
above all they say
00:20:42
bite mark analysis is more opinion than
00:20:45
fact
00:20:46
and that this should always be made
00:20:48
clear to jurors
00:20:50
what was allowed in mr crone's case was
00:20:52
bad science scientific explanations
00:20:55
given by people who were
00:20:58
unscientific in their methods
00:20:59
interpretation of a bite mark is what
00:21:01
convicted me nothing scientific not the
00:21:03
fingerprints that didn't match me not
00:21:05
the they even had footprints that they
00:21:07
couldn't match the shoes the hair not
00:21:08
the not the uh the dna none of that
00:21:11
stuff they used an interpretation of a
00:21:12
bite mark to convict me that has no
00:21:14
place in the courtroom any more than
00:21:16
perjury has a place in the courtroom we
00:21:18
shouldn't allow witnesses that lie no
00:21:19
matter what they say whether it's
00:21:21
regarding a scientific issue or any
00:21:23
other issue and in this case it was
00:21:25
clear that some of the scientific
00:21:27
experts were actually misrepresenting
00:21:29
their data and the scientific validity
00:21:31
of what they were talking about
00:21:34
[Music]
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[Music]
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[Music]
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you

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This episode stands out for the following:

  • 80
    Most shocking
  • 80
    Biggest twist
  • 75
    Most intense
  • 75
    Most surprising

Episode Highlights

  • The Snaggletooth Killer
    Ray Krohn was known as the Snaggletooth Killer after being convicted of murder.
    @ 00m 09s
    December 16, 2021
  • The Crime Scene Discovery
    Hank Arredondo found Kim Ancona's body in the CBS Lounge bathroom.
    “I can close my eyes and still see that scene.”
    @ 02m 24s
    December 16, 2021
  • The Bite Mark Evidence
    Forensic experts linked a distinctive bite mark to Ray Krohn, leading to his conviction.
    “It was a 100 percent perfect match, better than a fingerprint.”
    @ 08m 38s
    December 16, 2021
  • The DNA Breakthrough
    New DNA testing revealed that the blood found at the crime scene wasn't from Kim or Ray.
    @ 17m 36s
    December 16, 2021
  • Ray Krohn's Exoneration
    After over ten years in prison, Ray Krohn was exonerated when DNA evidence identified the real killer.
    “I commemorated it so I won't ever forget it.”
    @ 19m 48s
    December 16, 2021

Episode Quotes

  • I'm in too deep.
    Forensic Files - Season 8, Episode 7 - Once Bitten - Full Episode
  • The girl was beautiful even in death.
    Forensic Files - Season 8, Episode 7 - Once Bitten - Full Episode
  • What does it take? What is this beyond reasonable doubt?
    Forensic Files - Season 8, Episode 7 - Once Bitten - Full Episode
  • I would never forget that day I got out.
    Forensic Files - Season 8, Episode 7 - Once Bitten - Full Episode

Key Moments

  • Snaggletooth Killer00:09
  • Crime Scene Discovery02:24
  • Bite Mark Evidence08:38
  • DNA Breakthrough17:36
  • Exoneration19:48

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