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>> David Stevens, David the Medium, welcome
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to my podcast.
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>> Lovely to be here. Thank you so much for
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having me on,
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>> mate. It's great to have you in New
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Zealand. Um, we you're flying out this,
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just to time stamp the conversation,
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we're recording this in um sort of mid
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December. Uh you're flying out this
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afternoon and you've been here for your
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very first international show over the
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weekend.
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>> Yeah. So, I'm on tour at the moment,
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inverted commas tour. Uh, so yeah, I did
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every Australian capital city, uh, the
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Gold Coast, and yeah, first
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international show being Oakland, New
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Zealand. So, and I'm from Melbourne. So,
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>> how was the Oakland show?
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>> You know what? It was actually really
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good because I've never actually been to
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Oakuckland before, even for a holiday or
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anything like that. So, you never really
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know what the audience is like, but they
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were so engaged and fun and yeah, the
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messages were great and it was yeah,
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really good night overall.
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>> Who who is the audience? Who who goes to
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a David the Medium show?
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>> Yeah. Well, it's been very eclectic. So,
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on social media, my audience is
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predominantly females. I think, you
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know, the stats like 93% female. Uh, but
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you know, the good part is about doing a
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live show, they drag along their
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husbands and their boyfriends, so you
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get a nice mixed audience. And
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>> why is it such a female heavy thing?
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>> It's a question I've been asking myself
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a lot since I begun as a psychic medium.
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I think from a spiritual perspective,
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females are more intuitive and they're
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more open to sort of seeing the the
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grays of life. Uh, whereas males are
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more predominantly black and white. we
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live more on our ego like as a
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generalization of course. Uh but I I
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think females are more open to sort of
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seeking you know different modalities,
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different sort of holistic approaches to
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life especially when it comes to
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guidance and probably more open to
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spiritual messaging because they
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probably feel a lot more than males do.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Now full transparency I I hadn't heard
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of you um and uh a mutual friend of ours
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Jamie she messaged me a couple of days
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ago saying my friend David's in the
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country. Would you want him on your
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podcast? And I I looked up your
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Instagram page. You got a couple of
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hundred thousand followers. I end up
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going in a deep dive watching some um
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incredible videos. Um and I felt
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embarrassed that I I wasn't familiar
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with who you are because you're a big
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deal.
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>> Well, you know what? Social media only
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took off in October. So
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>> Oh, is that right? It's fairly recent.
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>> I've been really fortunate. Like I've
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had a very loyal audience in Australia
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and you know they're cy curated to me in
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terms of like uh our opinions on life
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and things like that. But you know I
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built a quite a large profile in
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Australia during co with some of the
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predictions I was making. But uh when I
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started my tour uh back in October we
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started posting some of the reals from
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that which I I don't doubt uh you were
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able to see and you know those were sort
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of 45 second to you know minute 30 kind
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of clips of the readings from the live
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shows
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>> and they just took off
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>> uh you know on Tik Tok and Instagram.
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Like I think my Instagram audience has
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grown about 180,000 people in two
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months. Wow.
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>> Like it's incredible engagement. So, I'm
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just, you know, so fortunate to be able
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to connect with people in that way and
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the people are relating to it positively
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as well.
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>> Yeah. Now, full full um disclosure here,
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I'm I'm I'm a skeptic.
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>> That was my next question. I like it.
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No, so was I.
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>> Really?
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>> Yeah. So, my background for those that
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don't know, I'm my background was law. I
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worked in uh my last inverted commas
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proper job was criminal prosecution and
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I wasn't raised religious. I didn't have
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a view of the afterlife. If anything,
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when I was in my early 20s, I was that
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stereotypical early 20s kind of guy,
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like if I don't see it, it doesn't
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exist. There was that black and white
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viewpoint that I think a lot of guys
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have to life.
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>> And for me, I started off because I I
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just started a new job and I had a work
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colleague and she said to me, "Have you
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ever been to a medium before?" And I was
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like, "Well, not really. Like, I don't
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really believe in it." Like, wasn't for
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me to say it wasn't real or anything
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like that, but I was an open-minded
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skeptic. And she says, "No, no, I know a
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lady who's great. You should go see And
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I was like, "Okay, well, for I'll go see
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what she brings up." Like, and I went in
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very black and white. Like, I was like,
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"If she asks any questions, I'm giving
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yes or no answers. Like, she's not going
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to know a thing about me." And within 5
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minutes, she said something. Um, you
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know, my grandfather had crossed over at
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that stage. And she relayed like a
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conversation that him and I had had
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together. And we could sit there for 100
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years, Dom, you'd never even guess it.
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>> So, I was like, "Okay, that's
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interesting."
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And she said to me, she says, "You
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realize you can do this?" And I was
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like, "Absolutely not." And she said, "I
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thought you knew, but the more that
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we're talking, like we're 5 10 minutes
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into the reading and I realized you've
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literally got no idea and this is your
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first ever time." Uh, so long story
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short, she ran a mentoring class. And I,
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you know, this was very casual. We were
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in, you know, the outer suburbs of
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Melbourne on a Wednesday night in her
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lounge room around a couch. Like, it was
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very casual. And there was about five or
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six of us. And I ended up going along to
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that thinking it would be a complete
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waste of time and that it wouldn't work.
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And turns out in the right environment I
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could and I could do it very easily and
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very naturally. Uh and I believe every
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single person can do it. Like there's
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nothing special about me. I don't have
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some extra sensory ability that makes me
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the chosen one. Uh like we've all got
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intuition. We've all got gut feelings.
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Uh and irregardless of your spiritual
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belief or your religious belief. Uh you
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know we're we're all souls who have come
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here and we were somewhere before we're
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here and we're going to be somewhere
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after here. like we're just visiting. Uh
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and I think sometimes skepticism and
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especially in my case, it came from a
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lack of experience like it came from a
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lack of understanding. Uh I think for a
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lot of men in particular, it can be
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quite a scary thought to think that
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there are sort of things that are out of
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our control. Uh and it also does come
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from a and you know this is again a
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generalization, but a lot of guys
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sometimes also have um skepticism around
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spirituality because it's actually a bit
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more feminine. And I'm not saying this
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is your case, of course, but sometimes
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if they have uh relationships in their
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life uh or you you know I find a lot of
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men uh that I've read for before or even
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some you know people that you know troll
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me on Instagram for example which I'm
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used to was fine but like sometimes they
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had a bad relationship with their mom,
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sometimes they had bad relationships
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with their sisters and you know the
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spirituality connects more with the
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feminine side. So sometimes that forces
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the shadow to come into them. So it's
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just uh yeah I think it just comes down
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to experience. So you you never saw
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anything or had any sort of um you know
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any sort of power as a kid.
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>> Never like I looking back on it my
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intuition was always very strong as a
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teenager.
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>> In what way?
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>> Like I see with the gut feeling for
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example I thought the gut feeling for me
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uh it was never a suspicion. It was
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always like that's the answer. Uh and it
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was only as I've grown up I realized
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maybe everyone doesn't have it like
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that. But I you know my friends used to
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ask me for advice cuz I used to give
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banging advice as a 15-year-old. You
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know what I mean? I couldn't sort out my
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own life to save myself. But yeah, I'd
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give great advice. But yeah, like a lot
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of the more, you know, prominent uh
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mediums, especially the international
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ones, they're very devoutly religious
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and they always reference seeing spirits
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at the end of the bed when they were
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kids and talking to them throughout
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their life. I never had any of that. And
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I think part of what it is is because I
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was pretty blocked out to it. Uh which I
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think is probably the average human.
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Like we're not exposed to this. Uh, and
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it's only the more that I, uh, you know,
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developed my ability that I realized in
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hindsight that I probably was connecting
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in certain ways without even realizing.
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And I think a lot of people are probably
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going to be like that.
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>> Was that quite confronting when you when
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you realized when that medium told you
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that you had this gift?
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>> I I kind of was very curious by it
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because I in that moment I looked at her
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and I was like, well, there's something
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special about you because, you know,
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through the conversations that we were
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having. And so she saw that in me that
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it was that real curiosity where I
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really wanted to explore it. Uh but you
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know in hindsight I think at the very
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start of my journey I kind of looked at
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it more like a party trick like I maybe
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didn't give it the respect that it
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deserved because you know I was this man
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that was studying law and
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counterterrorism of all things. Uh and
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you know my career path for me was going
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to lead me to you know working in
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homeland security. I was going to be
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like you know the Australian version of
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the CIA like you know be a spy overseas.
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I wasn't going to be the guy who, you
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know, connected with spirits at pass on
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messages and have that as my, you know,
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my journey. I just never saw that as a
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possibility. And I think for so many of
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us, especially young men, uh, you know,
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we grow up, you know, Australia and New
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Zealand are basically the same country.
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No offense, New Zealand. Um, I said at
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my live show, we've got the, uh, the
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North Island, the South Island, and now
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the West Island. So, it's all good.
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We're all one country. Uh, but, you
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know, men in particular, we grow up uh,
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and it's society. It comes from our
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parents in a lot of ways that life has
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to be a certain way. Uh and it's, you
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know, most of us we work the 9 to5 and
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you know, you have to get a mortgage and
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you've got to have kids, you've got to
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do that.
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>> Uh so it was confronting to suddenly be
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exposed to a different way of life
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because it wasn't something I'd ever had
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experience with. No one in my family was
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a medium.
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>> Uh you know, we all sort of had that
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structure and then this was completely
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different. So
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>> yeah. What was your family's reaction
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like when you when you came out as a
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medium?
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>> Well, I've come out in multiple ways
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throughout life. So and the good news is
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they've been supportive at everything.
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But I mean, my uh my mom's like my my
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biggest supporter. Like, she's a good
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sounding board for me. Uh my dad was a
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bit like, "Wow, okay, cool." But like,
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roll with it. Uh and yeah, my family,
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they come to all my live shows in
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Melbourne. And uh my mom's great and so
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is my brother. Like, I've got an older
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brother. They'll always watch the
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podcasts and, you know, listen to
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everything that I'm doing. So, I think
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for them, like, uh again, it's the
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firsthand experience. I needed uh and no
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one in my family had ever been to a
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meeting before or you know down done
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like meditation classes or anything. So
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>> for them to experience it the first time
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again it was like seeing as believing
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>> and they had their own experiences like
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my brother and my mom had both been to
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my mentor for readings and you know sort
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of opened up their eyes to different
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ways of how life is too.
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>> Yeah. Oh you mentioned before that you
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sort of um blew up or experienced some
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success during co with some predictions.
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What what what were they?
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>> Yeah. So that was,
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>> by the way, is Melbourne still locked
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down? Melbourne had like the longest
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lockown in the world.
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>> Well, it may as well be, honestly. Like,
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no one's recovered mentally, put it that
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way. Uh, so yeah, it was 2019. So I I I
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built a I was very fortunate to have
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built a very like cool loyal audience in
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Melbourne. And a few of the other states
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knew about me through social media, but
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the audience was rather small. And it
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was uh my profile in Australia kind of
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took off because about 6 months before
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co begun I started talking about it on
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Instagram uh about how 2020 we're going
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to see you know incredible change in the
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world like it was going to uh be a
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before and after view of life kind of
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like September 11 was like we look at
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life before that and after that
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>> and I remember saying to everyone I was
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like yeah once we get to March 2020 like
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or February March 2020 the whole world's
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shifting. I actually thought it was
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going to be a world war at the start
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like I didn't know what was going on. Uh
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but then when you know obviously it
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started making news at you know really
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the start of January that there was a
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virus I was like guys get ready like
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this is going to be massive changes but
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I made all these very randomly specific
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predictions like I talked about how um
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you know the king was going to get it
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the queen was going to get it and I said
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at the very start Melbourne would go
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into six lockdowns which you can imagine
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a reaction to that everyone was like oh
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great uh but yeah just it was all
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predictions around co and then uh you
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know the flow on effects from that that
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really sort of bought it up. Yeah. So,
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what what do you see or feel?
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>> So, yeah, it's a great question. So, as
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a medium, I see, hear, and feel. So, uh
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when I'm if I sit down with someone to
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do a a one-on-one reading, uh I can see
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in my head. So, I say if I close my
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eyes, it basically it's this room in my
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head, but people are suddenly here. Uh
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>> is there really?
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>> Yeah. If I Well, yeah, we can actually
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read later on if you want. I never
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thought about it actually, but let's do
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it. Um and uh
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>> is that is that Sorry, sorry to
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interrupt. Is that is that noisy for
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you? I've learned boundaries very
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strongly. So for me, it's like a a uh a
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radio frequency. So if I it's like
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tuning in the dial. So 99% of the time
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I'm David and 1% of the time I'm David
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the medium. Uh so yeah, when it comes to
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reading uh spirit, I yeah see here and
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feel. When it comes to making
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predictions on the world or sort of
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world events or future timelines, as
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weird as it sounds, it's usually when
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I'm dreaming.
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>> Uh so I'll dream about it. Uh or also if
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I'm in the shower like it's I guess it's
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when we go into that autopilot kind of
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stage which a lot of us do whether we're
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driving we're in the shower or you're
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kind of sitting there watching TV on
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your phone and then suddenly you just
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kind of get things.
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>> Uh but it was yeah a lot of the uh co
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predictions came actually when I was
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dreaming.
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>> Uh and I don't know whether you ever
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watched or read the Stephen King
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movie/book the stand. Do you know that?
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>> No no I don't know that one. one of his
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best books and it's they turned it into
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a miniseries uh like a mini movie in the
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1990s but essentially it's about a virus
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uh that escapes a a military facility in
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the US uh and within a month it wipes
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out the world's population uh and they
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were showing me the opening scenes of
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the stand when I was dreaming and I was
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like oh great so I thought the whole
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world was about to go well it did go
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nuts but I thought there was going to be
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a lot more death than there was but
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essentially a virus had escaped the
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military facility
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>> so this this podcast um that we're
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recording today this will be released
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early in 2026. Have you have you have
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you got a vibe for 2026? Have you got
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any predictions?
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>> Yeah, it's a great question. I've been
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working on that myself at the moment.
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So, it's uh it's very succinct that you
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ask about it. I think I mean 2026 is
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going to beh
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like I try and be positive, but I think
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by now people realize that the world's a
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bit nuts that it's a very up and down
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sort of environment that we're in. I
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mean, there's a lot of talk from even a
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lot of other psychics about, you know,
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financial collapses. I mean, but they've
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been talking about that since the 1990s
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really. Uh I just think uh my whole
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theory and what I say to everyone is
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sort of like, you know, adaption is key.
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Like if we can't control certain
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circumstances, situations or world
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events, we can't let them control us.
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It's just about how we adapt to it
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emotionally uh and even spiritually like
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how we react. But I I'm very interested
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to see what will happen over the
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Christmas period in the US. says a lot
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of sort of uh a lot of my predictions
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actually have formed from the United
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States because uh from a spiritual
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perspective the US is ground zero. So
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it's uh we call it the spiritual empire.
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Uh so anything that happens in the US uh
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inevitably reverberates around the world
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and we see that already whether it's
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politically, economically.
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>> Uh so I think there'll be yeah very
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interesting events maybe around
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Christmas time in the US whether that's
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terrorism or just conflict or yeah
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there's just sort of a bit of a
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heaviness around there. uh that will
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lead into 2026. But I think I mean it's
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pretty much the same as 2025 in a lot of
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ways. Like we're still dealing with the
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same issues whether it's conflict or uh
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you know Australia and New Zealand as
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well as the rest of the world aren't
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having necessarily the best economic
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circumstances and situations at the
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moment. Uh so in a lot of ways it's a
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continuation of 2025. Uh time frames you
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know as we look at it like there's no
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difference between December 31 and
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January 1. like, you know, even though
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it's a new year, nothing necessarily
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changes in that sense. But, uh, I'm
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going to feel a bit bad because I'm
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really going to dive into it over the
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next few weeks to get my predictions for
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2026 sorted out. But, I say always
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expect the unexpected, which I think
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we've all become pretty accustomed to
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over the last sort of five or six years
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in particular.
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>> Yeah. Cuz you got a fair bit of
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attention for predicting that Trump was
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going to win the previous election,
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right?
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>> Yeah. Yeah.
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>> Yeah. How far out did you call that?
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Well, the funny thing is with Donald
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Trump, I called his first win in
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February 206 against Hilly Clinton. I
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was like, there's no way that she will
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win that. Uh, and then I also said that
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he won in 2020. Uh, it depends how
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controversial you want to get, but I
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don't believe he actually lost in 2020,
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but that's another podcast altogether.
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>> Well, he agrees with you.
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>> Yeah. Yeah. Well, some uh voting data
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also agrees, but they just didn't look
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at it.
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Everyone's like, Dom's canled now. the
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podcast off and then but with uh 2024 I
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made the prediction at the end of 2023
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and this is on some other uh podcasts
00:15:51
online that I've said that I said Joe
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Biden will drop out. I said uh there
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will be two assassination attempts
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against Donald Trump. I even went on Sky
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News Australia and said that which is
00:16:00
pretty big for them to have me on
00:16:01
actually. Uh and I said there'll be two
00:16:03
assassination attempts but he'll go on
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to win the election. Uh and then lo and
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behold that's what happened. So
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>> yeah that is scaringly accurate. It's
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and it's a little bit random to say when
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you think about it. Yeah. So,
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>> yeah. What gives you the courage to to
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say these things?
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>> Well, it's it's I
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>> mean I suppose what I mean is like
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there's there's a huge potential for you
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to look like an idiot.
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>> Yeah. Well, that's the thing. I mean, I
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went very all in on 2020 saying that he
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would win. Uh and then obviously, you
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know, the situation was maybe a little
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bit different energetically in the
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physical world. But I just have the
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faith in what I sense and feel. Like
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I've done this for 15 years. Oh, no.
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I've been in, you know, been able to
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connect for 15 years. I've been, you
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know, inverted commas full-time for 8
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years. Uh, but for me is, you know, as
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weird as it sounds, it's just energy.
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And I look at it and I was like, "No,
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this is it. This is how it is." And, uh,
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it's kind of like, you know, to put it
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an analogy. If you've got to make two
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decisions, uh, and they're both very
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different decisions for you, Dom, you
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instinctively know which one that you
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feel will be right. Maybe sometimes you
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can't explain it. You don't know why
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you're thinking about it like that way,
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but you just know that instinctively
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that's a decision I have to make.
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>> When it comes to predictions for me,
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sometimes you see a lot of different
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sort of timelines or a lot of different
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possibilities. Like if I was to ask
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myself, okay, who's going to win, Donald
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Trump or Joe Biden? Way instantly
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instinctively said, well, Donald Trump's
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going to win. Uh, and then obviously I
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build on it and I meditate on it and I
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dream on it. I was like, well, Joe
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Biden's not even there. So I was like,
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well, he's dropping out. Uh, I had a
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dream that Donald Trump got shot in the
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head and he hit him on the ear. Yeah.
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And the funny thing was I actually
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watched that live.
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>> I was in Cambodia watching it on X uh
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cuz I I was lying in bed jetlagged at
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4:00 a.m. in the morning. They're like,
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"Oh, Donald Trump's doing a rally on and
00:17:47
I was like, "Oh, yeah, I'll watch it."
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But I didn't hear the gunshots. I didn't
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know what had happened. Uh and then when
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I was on Sky News Australia at the start
00:17:53
of August, uh the host uh we we were
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talking about the assassination attempt
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because that was only about 2 weeks
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beforehand. And I'd already said that
00:18:01
there had been two and the energy around
00:18:03
it, you know, I use the word energy very
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broadly. Uh but it was always around the
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nine, number nines, uh with him maybe
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being shot at again or having something
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happen. So for me that was September
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been the ninth month.
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>> Uh and you know this is available for
00:18:15
people to watch cuz it was you know
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online with Sky News and the host was
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like and you know is he out of the
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woods? So I was like, "No, there's going
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to be another one probably in the next
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few weeks." And she's like, "Really?"
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And I like, "Yeah, like he's in the red
00:18:26
zone for the next sort of seven, eight
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weeks, taking us up to midepptember."
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And then obviously there was the pardon
00:18:30
me, obviously there was the, you know,
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the government in the golf course. But
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>> yeah,
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>> yeah, for me there was just never any
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doubt that he would win that election,
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though.
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>> It was quite out there the um Sky News
00:18:40
having you on.
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>> I was I thought it was great. I mean,
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yeah, I was the very first uh psychic
00:18:45
medium to ever go on Sky News Australia,
00:18:47
which is, you know, as you're aware,
00:18:48
it's a predominantly quite a
00:18:50
conservative news channel. So uh my
00:18:52
whole thing is I want to I don't want to
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do what anyone else has done. I like
00:18:56
sort of pushing the boundaries and my
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motto is like I want to bring
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spirituality mediumship into the
00:19:00
mainstream. I want everyone to
00:19:01
understand it's not supernatural. It's
00:19:02
actually just supernatural
00:19:04
>> and not everyone has to be a medium. Not
00:19:06
everyone even has to believe. But uh if
00:19:08
it can help you see life in a different
00:19:09
way or if there's little uh tools and
00:19:12
tricks and uh abilities that you can
00:19:13
take from it to improve your own life,
00:19:15
great. Uh, so yeah, I'm here to sort of
00:19:19
show people that it's not necessarily
00:19:20
all velvet and crystal balls and black
00:19:24
hats running around everywhere. They're
00:19:25
sort of like we're all souls having a
00:19:26
human experience and we can all do it.
00:19:29
>> Sorry to interrupt. JJ wanted me to
00:19:31
interrupt because Kanye's lived out
00:19:33
here.
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>> Oh,
00:19:34
>> and Kanye Oh, is he? Oh, bring him in.
00:19:37
>> She's a little dog.
00:19:38
>> He's so sweet. I love Oh, I can't
00:19:41
believe we started without him. the he
00:19:43
was at the door in the other studio and
00:19:45
then JJ went, "Oh, Kanye's not in."
00:19:47
Bubba,
00:19:48
>> I'm sorry. He was miss He was so
00:19:49
>> deang
00:19:53
with me.
00:19:54
>> Okay, so the drilling in here. Paul has
00:19:57
just arrived in the garage and he's
00:19:58
going to be shaving down those wood.
00:20:00
>> Oh yeah. Honestly, we can you can sort
00:20:02
of hear it, but it's not. It won't be
00:20:04
picked up on the mics. Sweet.
00:20:05
>> We blocked out today to do have no
00:20:07
clients because of all this.
00:20:08
>> I know. Thank you for feeding me. I
00:20:10
know. Yeah. I mean, like, we just had to
00:20:12
have you.
00:20:13
>> Yeah. I'm honored.
00:20:14
>> Yeah. So, apologies if he's if if he's
00:20:16
too noisy in the garage. Move him out to
00:20:19
the street. Just
00:20:20
>> No, I don't think we'll even hear it to
00:20:21
be fair. Like the the drill. Yeah, the
00:20:22
drilling's not bad at all.
00:20:23
>> Okay. Just see how you go.
00:20:24
>> It's all good.
00:20:26
>> Like, you don't want to miss anything
00:20:27
real good, you know, like like a
00:20:29
compelling moment or something where
00:20:30
you're crying or you're crying or
00:20:32
whatever. Like, if that happens,
00:20:35
>> challenge accepted, Tom. Here we go.
00:20:36
Yeah.
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>> Hello.
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>> Sorry about that. All good. It's
00:20:40
>> all right.
00:20:40
>> Okay. And cutting my mic.
00:20:43
>> Um, how do you cope with um the crit the
00:20:45
criticism and trolls?
00:20:46
>> Well, I mean that's life, isn't it?
00:20:48
That's the thing. I mean, you know, if
00:20:49
any of us put ourselves into a public
00:20:51
arena regardless of what we do like you
00:20:54
do open yourself up to a different
00:20:55
viewpoint and I can appreciate everyone
00:20:57
sees life differently. I say we all live
00:20:59
in the same world, but we all have a
00:21:00
different reality of it.
00:21:02
>> Uh, for me, like I said, they don't know
00:21:04
me personally. I don't know them
00:21:05
personally. I don't take it personally
00:21:06
if I don't know you personally. Uh
00:21:08
people can have their opinions. They're
00:21:10
more than welcome to it. Uh I have my
00:21:12
opinions on things. I'm very opinionated
00:21:14
on certain things. Uh and I can
00:21:17
appreciate that people are very
00:21:18
opinionated about what I do. Uh but
00:21:21
that's it. I don't lose sleep over it.
00:21:23
Like that's it.
00:21:24
>> Do you do you try and um convert uh
00:21:26
skeptics into believers or
00:21:27
>> Well, I did at the start because I was
00:21:29
like, "Oh, you know, everyone has to say
00:21:30
a certain way." And I'm like, "I'm not
00:21:31
here to convert people." Like I said,
00:21:33
everyone can believe what they can
00:21:34
believe and it's everyone's own
00:21:35
experience. Uh but I say to everyone if
00:21:38
you have an interaction with me and I'm
00:21:40
telling you things or showing you things
00:21:42
or even making predictions about things
00:21:44
then make up your own mind from that. Uh
00:21:46
you don't have to believe in what I do.
00:21:47
Just maybe listen to what I say.
00:21:49
>> Uh but it's not it's not for everyone.
00:21:51
Not everyone is meant to have a ready.
00:21:53
Not everyone is meant to uh you know
00:21:56
look at life a different way like maybe
00:21:58
that's not part of their lesson this
00:22:00
time around. M.
00:22:01
>> So when did you make the full pivot from
00:22:03
law and counterterrorism?
00:22:06
>> Yeah.
00:22:07
>> It's the most unusual career I've ever
00:22:10
studied law and counterterrorism and
00:22:11
talking to the deceased on the weekends
00:22:13
like and I had a security clearance as
00:22:14
well. Like thank god they didn't find
00:22:16
out about it. It would have been denied
00:22:17
like um so I yeah but that was the
00:22:20
thing. I was still working in corporate
00:22:22
for about five six years even though I
00:22:24
knew that this was a part of me as well.
00:22:26
>> So this was like a side hustle.
00:22:27
>> It was. It really was because I never
00:22:29
saw it as a full-time thing. Like, you
00:22:31
know, as we were sort of saying before,
00:22:32
I had to have the full-time job. I had
00:22:34
to build a career and make something of
00:22:36
myself that way. Like to leave corporate
00:22:38
and leave that structure and suddenly
00:22:41
communicate with the deceased for people
00:22:42
in my loun room. Like it didn't seem
00:22:44
like an interesting or it was definitely
00:22:47
interesting, but it didn't seem like a a
00:22:48
suitable or a um fulfilling change. So,
00:22:52
yeah, I was working corporate for 5 6
00:22:54
years. It got to the end of 2016. I was
00:22:56
in an incredibly toxic job uh working
00:22:59
for the federal government in Australia.
00:23:01
Shout out to them. And yeah, I suddenly
00:23:05
basically quit my job on the spot and I
00:23:08
was suddenly unemployed and still
00:23:09
studying and nearly 30 and I just moved
00:23:12
uh to a new location in Melbourne. I was
00:23:14
like, what on earth am I doing with my
00:23:15
life? And I suddenly had clients message
00:23:18
me cuz I was reading about one or two a
00:23:20
week, you know, maybe on the evenings or
00:23:21
the weekends. and they started messaging
00:23:24
me and they're like, "Are are you ever
00:23:25
free during the day?" And I was like,
00:23:27
"Oh, well, I am actually." And I didn't
00:23:31
give it the respect it deserved. I can
00:23:33
openly admit that. Uh like I was still I
00:23:36
was respectful of the craft and what I
00:23:38
was able to do and the the healing
00:23:40
benefits that that gave people, but I
00:23:41
never saw it as something that was going
00:23:42
to be me full-time. Like I was always
00:23:44
David, not David the medium.
00:23:46
>> And it just really kind of grew from
00:23:48
there. Like it was all word of mouth at
00:23:49
the start. the more that I read people,
00:23:50
the more that other people wanted to
00:23:52
book in. Uh, and it got to the stage
00:23:54
that I really had to change how my brain
00:23:58
thought about it and how I shaped it in
00:24:00
my life because even though mediumship
00:24:01
was getting busy, I actually was still
00:24:03
looking for a part-time job because I
00:24:05
still felt that I needed that structure
00:24:06
and I needed that security. Uh, and to
00:24:09
be able to branch off into being your
00:24:11
own boss and, you know, creating your
00:24:13
own business, it was something that was
00:24:14
very foreign to me and something that I
00:24:16
didn't understand how to really do. Uh
00:24:19
but I was very fortunate that it just
00:24:20
grew naturally and I think sometimes the
00:24:23
biggest mistake that a lot of people can
00:24:24
make is that we try and put uh you know
00:24:27
caveats and pivots on how it should be.
00:24:29
Uh and I think it's great to be able to
00:24:31
think about how you want your life to be
00:24:33
especially when it comes to business or
00:24:34
when it comes to careers. that if we
00:24:36
become too rigid in it or if we put too
00:24:38
much, you know, dot points on it, it it
00:24:42
doesn't flow how it should. And I was
00:24:45
just allowing it to flow how it should
00:24:46
because I didn't know how it should be
00:24:47
to begin with.
00:24:49
>> Can you remember the very first reading
00:24:50
that you
00:24:51
>> Yeah. So that was actually in the
00:24:52
mentoring class actually and I made the
00:24:54
mental mental cry which was uh bit of a
00:24:57
good
00:25:00
>> Yeah. I was like, "Oh, here we go." You
00:25:01
know, the ego came out. I'm like, "Fuck
00:25:03
yeah." Like, so yeah, we got up and I
00:25:05
got up in front of the class and she was
00:25:07
she was a great mentor. She said, you
00:25:08
know, whatever you see, whatever you
00:25:10
feel, whatever you hear, just pass it
00:25:11
along. And as I mentioned before, there
00:25:12
was like five or six people in the room.
00:25:13
I had no idea who any of them were. A
00:25:15
few of them were a little bit weird, if
00:25:16
I'm honest. Um, and you I'm a short guy.
00:25:19
I'm 5'8. You know, I was in my mid20s at
00:25:22
this stage. And I remember standing up
00:25:24
in front of the room and I'm like, "Ah,
00:25:25
here we go." Like, okay, I welcome you
00:25:27
guys in. If you want to talk, if you
00:25:28
want to say anything, if you want me to
00:25:29
feel anything, just go ahead. And I had
00:25:32
my eyes closed. And I remember feeling
00:25:33
like that if I was to open my eyes I'd
00:25:35
be towering over the room like I felt
00:25:38
like a really tall man and suddenly I
00:25:40
got a really sharp pain in my chest and
00:25:43
that goes into the feeling. So uh
00:25:44
however spirit crosses over whatever
00:25:46
they feel whatever ailments illnesses I
00:25:48
will feel on my body about about 1/100th
00:25:51
of how they felt it. So, I got a really
00:25:53
sharp pain in my chest and my legs were
00:25:54
tingling and I was like, "Oh, what's
00:25:56
going on?" And long story short, it
00:25:58
ended up being uh the ex partner uh of
00:26:01
the mentor and she's like, "He never
00:26:03
comes forward in readings." And that was
00:26:05
my very first spirit that I ever
00:26:06
connected with who was a tall man uh who
00:26:08
died at 39 from a heart attack.
00:26:10
>> Wow.
00:26:10
>> And I was like, "Interesting." I was
00:26:14
like, "It does work." And then obviously
00:26:16
from that moment, I wasn't I was never
00:26:17
scared. uh and I was never intimidated
00:26:21
by it but I was very curious by it
00:26:23
because again it opened up my whole
00:26:24
world to it as the skeptic because I
00:26:26
never had experience with it so I wanted
00:26:28
to explore it and I yeah went to
00:26:30
mentoring every week uh and then I
00:26:32
started reading friends like I think
00:26:34
it's good for anyone who's looking at
00:26:36
opening up uh to do it around people
00:26:38
that you feel comfortable with because
00:26:39
it was friends that I knew and I knew a
00:26:42
lot about them but I didn't know
00:26:42
necessarily their family or their life
00:26:44
stories or sometimes what was going on
00:26:46
in their head. Uh so it was good to be
00:26:48
able to read for them at the very start
00:26:49
and open up and then suddenly it
00:26:50
branched off into clients and then
00:26:53
>> and and you're booked out now. E you're
00:26:56
in such demand.
00:26:57
>> Yeah, I'm very fortunate. Uh so I at the
00:27:00
moment I only sort of released
00:27:01
appointments for the week ahead just so
00:27:02
I can structure life a bit more easier
00:27:04
for everyone. But there was one stage I
00:27:05
was booked out about yeah two years
00:27:07
ahead. Wow. I start off and but that's
00:27:08
no way to plan life like you just can't
00:27:10
do anything. But yeah, I've been very
00:27:12
fortunate that that demand is always
00:27:14
there. And because of my background,
00:27:15
because of how I looked at life, uh I
00:27:17
aim for specivity in my readings. Uh so,
00:27:20
you know, I don't want to be like, oh,
00:27:22
there's a woman in spirit who says that
00:27:23
she loves you. Like by the time you get
00:27:24
to our age, that's usually the case like
00:27:26
you'd hope. Uh so I think that's what uh
00:27:29
maybe uh you know invites the curiosity
00:27:33
for a lot of people because I do aim for
00:27:35
specivity. So they are going to see
00:27:37
someone. You can sometimes get a bit
00:27:39
more deep than some other mediums can.
00:27:41
>> Is is there any information that you
00:27:42
hold back?
00:27:44
>> I decided very early on it wasn't for me
00:27:46
to have a filter. Like if I feel it uh
00:27:48
there's a reason why I'm being told or
00:27:50
why I feel it. So it's uh not for me to
00:27:52
not pass it on. Uh it's always about
00:27:55
being diplomatic of course. And you know
00:27:57
as a medium I am also a grief counselor.
00:27:59
I'm a relationships counselor. I'm a
00:28:01
careers counselor. Trauma counselor.
00:28:03
like uh it's you know very crucially
00:28:06
important uh that I learned early on to
00:28:08
be able to hold space for people uh and
00:28:11
to allow them to feel safe and allow
00:28:12
them to feel supported whilst in that
00:28:14
moment because I can meet someone for
00:28:15
the first time and then within 5 minutes
00:28:16
I'm talking about their worst trauma
00:28:18
that they went through last year. Uh so
00:28:20
from a filter perspective it's about
00:28:23
being diplomatic. Uh but yeah I never
00:28:25
cut anything out
00:28:28
>> cuz we do deal with some heavy topics.
00:28:30
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How many how many
00:28:32
readings can you do in a day? It must
00:28:34
must be draining, right?
00:28:34
>> Yeah. Well, when I was sort of really in
00:28:37
the the depths of it, I do about five a
00:28:39
day. So, about 25 a week cuz I still
00:28:41
worked Monday to Friday cuz I thought
00:28:42
that's do the 9 to 5 kind of job. You
00:28:45
know, you can work weekends as well, but
00:28:46
I didn't. Uh but now I I know my limit
00:28:50
is about sort of three at the moment,
00:28:52
three a day and they go for 45 minutes.
00:28:54
So, you know, a busy day for me is not
00:28:56
really your average busy day for most
00:28:58
people, but uh it it can be very
00:29:00
energetically draining, but I've also
00:29:01
become good at selfcare and I I know my
00:29:04
limit.
00:29:04
>> Uh you know, doing the live shows is a
00:29:06
bit different because obviously we've
00:29:07
got audiences anywhere from, you know,
00:29:08
200 to a,000 people.
00:29:11
>> Uh so, it's probably why you might be
00:29:12
able to hear it in my voice uh at the
00:29:14
moment from the show that I did on
00:29:16
Saturday night, but it sometimes can be
00:29:17
a little bit energetically heavy.
00:29:20
>> Uh
00:29:20
>> yeah. What is what does a a live show
00:29:23
for David the Medium look like? Do you
00:29:24
have like a structure?
00:29:26
>> Yeah. Well, it's it's fascinating
00:29:27
because, you know, not like any live
00:29:29
show, I'm not learning any script. I
00:29:31
don't have any props. I don't have stage
00:29:33
placements. I I I did my very first ever
00:29:36
live show in Melbourne in March uh of
00:29:38
last year uh being 2024. And I honestly
00:29:42
wasn't sure how it was going to go. Like
00:29:44
I'd seen other mediums. I'd been to as a
00:29:46
guest to other live shows, so I know
00:29:48
that it was definitely possible, but I
00:29:49
didn't know whether I was going to get
00:29:50
up on stage and have 20 people yell at
00:29:53
me all at once from spirit. But what I
00:29:55
do is I I get up in front of the crowd
00:29:58
uh and I channel something that's so
00:30:00
specific and so random that only one
00:30:02
person in the audience will connect with
00:30:03
it. Uh and then we just go on from there
00:30:05
and move through. And uh a it's very uh
00:30:08
a typical live show part of me will
00:30:10
connect with about yeah 20 people maybe
00:30:12
all up in different groups of people and
00:30:15
uh just pass on. But spirit's very
00:30:16
respectful. They take it one by one cuz
00:30:18
I didn't know whether I was going to end
00:30:19
up in a fetal position on the stage
00:30:21
having everyone yell at me like I said
00:30:22
but uh they're great. They take it one
00:30:24
by one and uh it's it's there's no
00:30:26
priority either. Like I always say with
00:30:29
spirit and also with myself, we don't
00:30:30
prioritize grief. like everyone's grief
00:30:32
is all the same just because sometimes
00:30:34
some stories are a bit more like you
00:30:36
know sometimes you hear how some certain
00:30:38
people cross over or certain life
00:30:39
experiences that people have and it's
00:30:40
like w uh but spirit doesn't prioritize
00:30:43
it either like everyone feels the same
00:30:45
like we all you know it's very unique we
00:30:47
all go through
00:30:48
>> you know different stages but if I'm
00:30:50
standing up in front of a crowd looking
00:30:52
at 500 it always feels like there's
00:30:53
probably about 2,000 people behind me as
00:30:55
well
00:30:57
>> what's what's the difference between a a
00:30:59
great show and um and a [ __ ] show have
00:31:01
you had a [ __ ] show.
00:31:02
>> Well, I've touched wood. I've loved all
00:31:04
my shows so far. So, I mean, this to um
00:31:06
you know, the Oakland show was show 10
00:31:08
of 11. I've got my final show in uh
00:31:10
Melbourne in uh mid December. So, by the
00:31:12
time this airs, uh hopefully that was a
00:31:14
good show.
00:31:16
Uh but yeah, I mean, I I've done I think
00:31:20
as of today, I think about 16 live shows
00:31:22
in total. I've loved them all. They're
00:31:25
all very unique. Every city has its own
00:31:27
uniquenesses as well. Like, no one crowd
00:31:29
is ever the same. Uh the stories that
00:31:31
come through are very unique in every
00:31:33
city. Uh but I'm so fortunate that I
00:31:36
actually just love being able to do it.
00:31:37
>> Uh and
00:31:38
>> is there a huge amount of pressure to
00:31:40
have like an oh well moment from each
00:31:42
show
00:31:43
>> or even a pressure that you force on,
00:31:45
you know, put on yourself?
00:31:46
>> Yeah, I mean not for me. Like I it's
00:31:48
funny that you mentioned that because
00:31:50
some of the shows like Oakland for
00:31:51
example didn't have that one thing where
00:31:54
everyone went wow. But there was moments
00:31:56
that came up in people's lives. But I
00:31:58
mean there's certain shows where even
00:32:00
I'm like oh wow like uh you know we
00:32:02
predicted or not predicted but a a
00:32:05
brother in spirit spoiled the pregnancy
00:32:08
for his brother earthside in front of
00:32:10
everyone he's I'll give a bit of context
00:32:13
but the uh I connect with uh there was
00:32:15
two parents in the crowd and I connected
00:32:17
with their son in spirit and they had
00:32:18
their son earthside who had just met
00:32:19
this girl and they were forming a
00:32:21
relationship and the brother in spirit
00:32:22
was like she's pregnant and I passed it
00:32:24
on and the parents were like nobody
00:32:27
knows that she told us last night.
00:32:29
>> Oh, I saw that clip. That's amazing. The
00:32:31
mustard one.
00:32:31
>> Yeah, the mustard one. Djon. Yeah. I've
00:32:33
never met a person in my life called
00:32:34
Djon. So, that was interesting.
00:32:36
>> Uh but then sometimes, unfortunately,
00:32:37
the way in which people cross over can
00:32:39
be very unique. Uh like I mean in Darwin
00:32:42
we had someone who passed in a
00:32:43
helicopter crash. In Gold Coast, I've
00:32:44
had people that pass in plane crashes.
00:32:47
Uh I've connected with spirits that have
00:32:48
passed in the barley bombings.
00:32:50
>> Uh in Adelaide, we had a a poor
00:32:52
gentleman that was uh killed uh by in a
00:32:55
police shooting.
00:32:57
uh like those are stories you wouldn't
00:32:59
necessarily hear every day. So to have
00:33:01
them come up in a live show, I mean
00:33:02
those kind of are a bit of the oh wow
00:33:03
moments.
00:33:05
>> Uh but it's also fascinating as well at
00:33:07
the same time. And I think it's a great
00:33:09
uh sort of experience for the crowd
00:33:10
members cuz I can appreciate sometimes
00:33:12
some of the crowd members have never
00:33:13
been to a live show. Maybe they've never
00:33:15
seen a medium before. Uh so stories like
00:33:17
that come up, it really can help shift
00:33:19
people's perspectives and
00:33:20
understandings.
00:33:21
What did the old David um the the lawyer
00:33:24
counterterrorism guy what what did he
00:33:26
think um happened when you died?
00:33:28
>> I it's a great question because yeah I
00:33:31
wasn't raised religious. I always
00:33:33
believed that we went somewhere. I
00:33:35
didn't know what that was. I you know in
00:33:38
hindsight I don't know whether I
00:33:40
believed in heaven. Uh I now I don't
00:33:43
really either to be very fair. I think
00:33:44
that when we cross over now we go to
00:33:45
what I call the waiting room but I also
00:33:47
believe that's not the final spot. Uh
00:33:49
but I was never atheist. I always
00:33:51
thought I always called myself an
00:33:52
agnostic. So I believed that there was
00:33:54
more to life than this. And I think you
00:33:56
know especially for maybe some of the
00:33:57
guys listening, you might not
00:33:58
necessarily be open to mediumship or
00:34:00
spirituality, but you have to believe
00:34:01
there's more than this.
00:34:03
>> Like if this is it, then what's the
00:34:04
point?
00:34:05
Uh so yeah, and I always believed that
00:34:08
even though maybe that we went
00:34:10
somewhere, I didn't really ever think
00:34:11
that spirit would still talk back with
00:34:14
us or would still watch over. I believe
00:34:15
that even with my own loved ones that
00:34:17
when they crossed over, they probably
00:34:18
just went somewhere else and would maybe
00:34:20
catch up again later on. But I didn't
00:34:22
believe that they would still be able to
00:34:23
watch over and guide us and still be a
00:34:25
part of our lives on earth.
00:34:27
>> But what's what's the point of these
00:34:28
spirits?
00:34:29
>> Well, life is classroom for the soul.
00:34:32
So,
00:34:32
>> can you repeat that? What life is?
00:34:34
>> Yeah. The biggest question we all have
00:34:35
in life is what is the meaning of life
00:34:36
or what's the point of all of this? And
00:34:38
for me, my understanding is that life is
00:34:41
classroom for our souls. uh we have to
00:34:44
come to this you know this plane this
00:34:46
realm matrix earth whatever you want to
00:34:48
call it uh because the soul needs to
00:34:50
experience and grow and heal and evolve
00:34:52
and gain new understandings and just
00:34:54
like in school how we went to school and
00:34:55
we did maths science and uh history the
00:34:58
soul's coming to earth this time because
00:35:00
it needs to learn about relationships or
00:35:02
about self-growth or about different
00:35:04
perspectives
00:35:06
uh and depending on how deep you want to
00:35:08
get into it but essentially we sign a
00:35:10
contract uh before we're even conceived
00:35:12
into It's not even born. It's when we're
00:35:14
conceived. Uh, and it essentially states
00:35:17
that it's like a computer game or a TV
00:35:19
show or a movie. It's got a a beginning,
00:35:21
an end, and a character plot line in
00:35:23
between. And it says, "This is what
00:35:24
you're going to do. These are the
00:35:25
lessons you're going to learn." Uh, and
00:35:27
the soul is born into that life. Now,
00:35:30
the human side of us obviously is here
00:35:31
for the first time. Like, we don't know
00:35:33
what we're doing next week. Even as a
00:35:34
psychic, I can't tell you what I'm doing
00:35:35
next week. Uh so we are here for the
00:35:38
experience and that's how the soul
00:35:39
learns through us because we're all the
00:35:41
same. Essentially we're all one in uh
00:35:43
each other and
00:35:46
eventually uh the soul does everything
00:35:48
it's had to learn. Sometimes it fails
00:35:51
the lessons and it has to come back and
00:35:53
do it again. But eventually we get to
00:35:54
the end and it's game over. uh or you
00:35:57
know the season finale or the series
00:35:59
finale of the TV show or the movie comes
00:36:01
out its final scene
00:36:02
>> and that final scene for us is crossing
00:36:04
over again.
00:36:06
>> Are any spirits [ __ ]
00:36:10
>> Well, when they come forth they come
00:36:11
forward as as they were as the human. Um
00:36:14
so they're not [ __ ] by foundational
00:36:17
nature. But you know D have you ever met
00:36:19
someone you don't really [ __ ] like?
00:36:20
Like
00:36:22
>> most days
00:36:23
>> it's like by 9:00 a.m. I met two. Uh so
00:36:26
the soul itself is not an [ __ ] The
00:36:29
human experience makes us [ __ ] Uh
00:36:32
and sometimes the soul needed to be an
00:36:33
[ __ ] on earth to learn certain
00:36:35
lessons and certain character traits or
00:36:38
certain you know evolutions. Uh but
00:36:40
jealousy, anger, negativity, they're not
00:36:42
soul emotions. They're human emotions
00:36:44
because that actually what helps us
00:36:45
learn things or see things differently.
00:36:47
Uh you know without sounding woo woo,
00:36:49
the soul itself is just, you know, it's
00:36:51
peaceful. It's loving. It's connected.
00:36:52
uh the way that I want everyone to look
00:36:54
at this whole journey because we're not
00:36:56
separate. Uh uh imagine a huge bucket of
00:36:59
water
00:37:00
uh and there's a little hole in the
00:37:02
bottom of the bucket and each drip that
00:37:04
comes out of that bucket is a soul
00:37:06
coming to earth. Uh now eventually that
00:37:09
that water evaporates and it goes back
00:37:11
into the bucket. If it goes back into
00:37:13
the bucket are you able to find that one
00:37:14
drop of water again? No. It's gone back
00:37:16
to oneness. So, we're all the same and
00:37:19
we all come as little drips to earth,
00:37:21
but we're all connected at the same, if
00:37:23
that makes sense.
00:37:24
>> Yeah. Yeah.
00:37:25
>> Is there a reading that stands out as
00:37:27
the most mind-blowing reading you've
00:37:29
ever done? Like something that really
00:37:30
really impacted you?
00:37:31
>> The Well, yeah, impacting is a good
00:37:33
word. The funny thing is like I actually
00:37:35
don't remember my readings because they
00:37:36
don't come from me. I don't actually
00:37:37
remember them afterwards anyway. But you
00:37:39
know that being said, there are some
00:37:41
certain circumstances in, you know, some
00:37:43
very unique way in which people cross
00:37:45
over or sometimes their life is very
00:37:46
different where it does stand out for
00:37:48
me. And um unfortunately um the two that
00:37:51
really stand out the most for me over
00:37:53
the last uh 15 years were actually two
00:37:55
younger people that crossed over. Uh one
00:37:58
was a girl called Lily Das. Uh and her
00:38:01
mom is actually a medium as well in
00:38:02
Melbourne. Uh and she always stands out
00:38:04
for me cuz she was a young girl who died
00:38:06
at uh well crossed over. I hate using
00:38:07
the word death. uh crossed over at 8
00:38:09
years old from a brain tumor and she was
00:38:12
just the most incredible spirit. There
00:38:14
are some people that I've also met earth
00:38:16
side but also spirits where I don't know
00:38:17
how they ever managed to get to earth
00:38:19
because they just so evolved and they
00:38:21
don't feel human. And I remember Lily um
00:38:25
she came into the reading on the back of
00:38:26
a lion. She was like she grabbed onto
00:38:29
the lion's mate and she came galloping
00:38:30
in like she was on a and I was like I've
00:38:32
never seen that before in my life. Uh
00:38:35
and she was just the most incredible
00:38:37
spirit. She really was and you know her
00:38:39
her family, you know, like all parents
00:38:40
understand that she was something
00:38:41
special. But
00:38:43
>> yeah, she was just she's always stuck
00:38:44
out to me and I reference her quite
00:38:46
often.
00:38:46
>> Uh and just way that she was relating to
00:38:48
her family, the messages that she was
00:38:50
passed on, the signs that she was still
00:38:51
giving them, like even her mom developed
00:38:53
her mediumship ability after her
00:38:55
daughter had crossed over. So it wasn't
00:38:57
something that um Simone even knew that
00:38:59
she was really able to do. Uh and then
00:39:01
the other one was actually uh there's an
00:39:04
American Australian actress called Jane
00:39:05
Badler and her son was uh named Harry uh
00:39:08
and he uh crossed over from an
00:39:10
accidental overdose in Los Angeles and
00:39:12
again he was just alien. He was the most
00:39:15
incredible spirit and he was the only
00:39:16
spirit thus far that has actually come
00:39:18
into my dreams. Uh so even after I read
00:39:21
for his mother um there was three nights
00:39:24
after the reading where I actually had
00:39:25
Harry in my dreams talking to me and
00:39:26
showing me his life. Uh, and Harry in
00:39:30
uh, his in my dreams, part of me,
00:39:31
actually introduced me to his boyfriend,
00:39:34
and his boyfriend was Earthside.
00:39:37
And so I met his boyfriend in my dreams.
00:39:38
And they end up reading for his
00:39:39
boyfriend. And I'm like, I've actually
00:39:40
met you before. Like Harry, again, I
00:39:42
don't know how spirit does it, but he
00:39:44
was again not human. Uh, so they've
00:39:46
always stuck out with me. But then
00:39:47
there's unfortunately sometimes the
00:39:49
darker side of uh, the mediumship. Uh,
00:39:52
people that have been crossed over in
00:39:54
terrorist attacks always stand out for
00:39:55
me given my background. Mhm.
00:39:57
>> Uh like I read for people that uh were
00:39:59
involved with 9/11 or the Bali bombings
00:40:02
uh and then unfortunately with uh
00:40:05
murders uh when a soul or when a human
00:40:09
gets murdered uh they actually take me
00:40:11
into the final probably one to two
00:40:13
minutes of their life. So you can
00:40:15
imagine how heavy that can be. But it's
00:40:18
like I'm seeing it from their
00:40:19
perspective. So every time I close my
00:40:20
eyes I'm looking at it through their
00:40:21
eyes. Uh so you know as you can
00:40:24
appreciate sometimes
00:40:26
it's very quick sometimes they can be
00:40:28
living a normal life and then suddenly
00:40:30
the event actually happens but sometimes
00:40:31
you can step into it while the event's
00:40:33
also occurring.
00:40:34
>> Uh so that was that's incredibly
00:40:36
difficult and that's where for me it's
00:40:38
all about selfcare because I have to
00:40:40
process it. Uh but then unfortunately at
00:40:43
the same time people our age and even
00:40:44
the younger generation we are very
00:40:45
desensitized to violence.
00:40:47
>> Uh so sometimes it's just kind of like
00:40:49
watching a movie. So, victims of murder,
00:40:52
what do they experience at the end? Is
00:40:54
it is it fear? Is it terror? Is it is it
00:40:57
an um unexplainable calm?
00:40:59
>> Yeah. Well, it's it's actually all of
00:41:01
it. It really is. It really depends on
00:41:02
the circumstance and the situations. One
00:41:04
of the most beautiful readings thus far
00:41:06
from the live shows uh was actually in
00:41:08
Perth uh and was a final reading of my
00:41:11
Perth show. And this is available for
00:41:12
people to watch on YouTube. And I've
00:41:14
actually also created a real about it.
00:41:15
It might be on uh Instagram and Tik Tok
00:41:17
actually, David the Medium. Um, but it
00:41:20
was a a lady whose daughter was in the
00:41:22
crowd and uh she died in domestic
00:41:26
violence. So, her partner was attacking
00:41:28
her and she came through. Oh, I'm
00:41:32
getting goose. I was talking about it
00:41:33
with the most resolve. Uh, and she even
00:41:35
mentioned it to her daughter. She says,
00:41:37
"I know I'm going to go out here." But
00:41:38
she goes, "I'm going to go out
00:41:39
fighting." Uh, and all her memories was
00:41:42
was her children cuz the lady in the
00:41:44
crowd that I was reading for was only a
00:41:46
year old when her mother was killed. Uh,
00:41:48
and her mom was saying, she goes, "I
00:41:49
just had you in my head." And she says,
00:41:52
"I know I'm about to get killed, but I'm
00:41:53
going to go out with a fight." And so,
00:41:55
you know, that's that real strength and
00:41:57
that resolve. And I think that's just an
00:41:58
incredible show of display from how
00:42:00
special this woman must have been Earth
00:42:02
Side.
00:42:03
>> But then there's other circumstances
00:42:04
where, of course, there is the fear. Uh,
00:42:06
and there is that sort of doubt. It's
00:42:09
very rare that people know that they're
00:42:11
about to cross over, if that makes
00:42:12
sense.
00:42:13
>> Yeah. Uh cuz even when they have um
00:42:15
unfortunately ended up in circumstances
00:42:17
like that, they're not the soul's not
00:42:18
necessarily or the human part, pardon
00:42:20
me, is not necessarily aware it's about
00:42:21
to happen. Um but then there's been some
00:42:25
uh you know events that of course people
00:42:27
to cross over that have been so unique.
00:42:28
Like there was one man that I read for
00:42:30
well I read for his family, but he was
00:42:32
in the uh the uh Bosnian war in the
00:42:35
1990s and uh for memory I think he was
00:42:38
Serbian trying to escape the military or
00:42:39
something like that. Uh, and he knew
00:42:41
they were about to catch him and he had
00:42:42
a grenade on him and he put the grenade
00:42:44
on in his armpit and pulled the pin and
00:42:46
blew himself up. And that and that was a
00:42:47
weird feeling because I suddenly felt
00:42:49
like there was pits of me all over the
00:42:50
room. So this is the thing I I I want to
00:42:53
give it the respect, but I also feel
00:42:55
like in some ways I've become
00:42:56
desensitized to it cuz I can talk about
00:42:57
it very easily. But these are people's
00:42:59
stories. This is their journey. They
00:43:01
want it to be told. Uh so even with the
00:43:03
murders uh you know that's they still
00:43:06
hold it not like a badge of honor of
00:43:07
course but it is their story and they
00:43:09
want people to know uh that even though
00:43:11
there is that fear and there is that you
00:43:13
know that element of unsurity but there
00:43:15
is also that resolve that strength uh
00:43:18
that even in those moments that no one
00:43:21
can take away who they are like you
00:43:23
might be able to end their life but you
00:43:24
don't end their soul which is important
00:43:27
for everyone to know. Is is there a
00:43:29
common message that people want to pass
00:43:31
on to their loved ones?
00:43:33
>> It's the most common one is that life
00:43:36
continues and you know as I you know as
00:43:38
I corrected myself before I don't like
00:43:40
using the word death uh because death
00:43:42
creates such a finality and the word
00:43:44
itself is very harsh and very blunt um
00:43:46
to say that someone's dead or to say
00:43:48
that someone's dying.
00:43:50
>> Uh the one thing that I've learned by
00:43:52
being a psychic medium is that life
00:43:54
continues. uh the human may expire but
00:43:57
the soul continues to live on and I
00:44:01
explain that in a very scientific
00:44:02
perspective like science understands
00:44:04
that uh because science understands that
00:44:06
every living force has an energy field
00:44:09
and we also understand in science that
00:44:11
once energy is created energy can't
00:44:13
cease to exist it actually just changes
00:44:15
forms so if from a scientific
00:44:18
perspective we're we're living forces
00:44:21
and even science knows that we admit an
00:44:23
energy field around us uh you can
00:44:25
measure it. If I put my hand on the
00:44:26
table and lift it up under certain
00:44:28
lighting conditions, you can still see
00:44:29
the imprint of my hand. I've left my
00:44:30
energy behind. So if the physical body
00:44:33
expires
00:44:35
and whether it's cremated or buried, you
00:44:38
know, it changes form over time. It
00:44:40
breaks down. If it's cremated, it's
00:44:42
obviously changing form in that sense.
00:44:45
But our thoughts, our behaviors, our
00:44:47
memories, they're all in our head. And
00:44:50
those are living thoughts and living
00:44:52
sparks from a scientific perspective. So
00:44:55
what happens to them?
00:44:57
>> So are we going to go against science
00:44:59
and now say that those don't exist
00:45:02
anymore? Uh they again change form. The
00:45:05
soul becomes the energy. Uh you know
00:45:07
from a physical perspective you and I
00:45:08
are built exactly the same. You know
00:45:10
we've got a heart two lungs like
00:45:12
everything but we're very different
00:45:13
people. What makes us different? Uh even
00:45:15
from birth we're very different and
00:45:16
that's our soul. That's the energy of
00:45:18
who we are with that little drip that
00:45:19
comes out of the bucket. So with
00:45:22
everyone, we believe in Wi-Fi signals.
00:45:25
You believe in radio waves. You believe
00:45:27
in mobile phone signals. Why would
00:45:29
spiritual signal be any different?
00:45:31
>> You know, the the physical body's
00:45:33
expired. The energy that's in us goes
00:45:35
out into the ether.
00:45:38
We can connect with it. We've got an
00:45:40
antenna in our heads. We all do.
00:45:43
>> What's your experience with this? I I
00:45:45
don't know.
00:45:46
>> I'm turning the mic around.
00:45:47
>> I don't know. Yeah, I'm um I'm I'm a
00:45:49
skeptic. Uh just cuz there there's
00:45:51
there's there's nothing I've experienced
00:45:53
um that would make me believe it. But um
00:45:55
in saying that, you know, I'm I I'd
00:45:58
still jump at the chance to have you on
00:46:00
my podcast because just cuz I don't
00:46:01
believe in it. I know that other people
00:46:02
do. And I'm al also curious to know more
00:46:04
about things that I don't understand.
00:46:06
>> So that's it. It's the same as me as a
00:46:08
skeptic, the curious skeptic. Yeah.
00:46:10
>> Do you um No doubt you've you you
00:46:12
mentioned the guy with the grenade in
00:46:13
his armpit before. um in um cases of um
00:46:18
suicide where people have chosen to end
00:46:20
their own life, like what what is the
00:46:21
general message they have? Is is it like
00:46:23
regret or remorse or are they at peace?
00:46:26
>> Yeah, they're definitely at peace
00:46:28
because that's one of the main things
00:46:29
they want their family to know. Uh what
00:46:30
it is, it's it's not necessarily regret
00:46:33
because the soul knew that that's how
00:46:34
the journey would end before the soul
00:46:36
was conceived. Uh the human side of us
00:46:38
obviously regrets passing on, you know,
00:46:40
um the trauma and the the sadness to our
00:46:43
families. The one thing that the soul
00:46:45
always says in circumstances of suicide
00:46:47
is that it understands that the pain
00:46:50
didn't end. It actually just got
00:46:51
transferred.
00:46:52
>> And unfortunately for all of us, I I
00:46:54
don't know about your experience, but
00:46:55
you know, if I think by the time you get
00:46:58
to our age, we're all sort of affected
00:46:59
by suicide in some way, whether it's
00:47:01
family or friends or things like that.
00:47:02
And that's it. Uh their journey may have
00:47:05
concluded, but the pain that they felt
00:47:07
or the pain that they feel continues to
00:47:08
live in us cuz we miss them. We love
00:47:10
them. Uh but the soul always and it's
00:47:13
very common within uh those that unal
00:47:15
alive themselves
00:47:17
uh to realize
00:47:18
>> what what do you call it?
00:47:19
>> Well, unalive that's a Tik Tok term.
00:47:22
>> I know. I didn't know what it meant at
00:47:23
the start now. Now I actually hate
00:47:25
myself for using that cuz it sounds so
00:47:26
weird.
00:47:27
>> Um I think that's how they got around
00:47:29
sensors on Tik Tok saying unive. Um,
00:47:33
but they understand uh because I think
00:47:35
the human side of us, we always try and
00:47:38
find the logic in it. Like, didn't they
00:47:41
know that they loved us? What were they
00:47:42
thinking? You know, what did I do wrong?
00:47:45
Did I miss something?
00:47:47
>> Did my loved ones not realize how much I
00:47:49
love them? Did they feel like they
00:47:50
couldn't talk to me? Like, we try and
00:47:51
logicize it. Like, we're trying to find
00:47:53
the logic in what they're thinking and
00:47:55
what they're feeling. And unfortunately
00:47:57
when it comes to mental health and
00:47:58
especially when it comes to you know
00:48:00
deep depressions that those poor souls
00:48:02
unfortunately fall into on earth they
00:48:04
don't have the logic ability to be able
00:48:06
to think straight.
00:48:08
>> So the main message that's come from
00:48:09
souls that they want to pass on to their
00:48:11
families is that they felt this deep
00:48:14
pain. They didn't necessarily see a way
00:48:17
through it. So they thought they were
00:48:18
doing everyone kind of a favor in some
00:48:20
ways which is just the most horrific way
00:48:21
to have to think.
00:48:23
>> Uh but they don't think logically about
00:48:24
it. They think about the actual event
00:48:27
itself, but they don't think about the
00:48:29
second after that event occurs. And
00:48:31
that's what the soul likes to reflect on
00:48:32
when it when I have readings for people
00:48:34
because they say, "Well, now I
00:48:35
understand things differently." Uh, and
00:48:38
but they always want everyone to know
00:48:39
that they're at peace irregardless of
00:48:40
how anyone crosses over. They all want
00:48:42
their loved ones to know that they're
00:48:43
okay.
00:48:44
>> Because I think as humans, uh, I know
00:48:46
I'm definitely was this way and maybe
00:48:48
you were as are as well, but uh, we do
00:48:51
want to know that our loved ones are
00:48:53
okay.
00:48:53
>> Yeah, of course. Sometimes their
00:48:54
passings were very traumatic and you
00:48:57
know we love them and just because their
00:49:00
physical
00:49:02
uh element isn't earth side anymore
00:49:04
doesn't mean that we love them any less
00:49:06
now.
00:49:06
>> If anything you know the more that time
00:49:09
goes on the more that we miss them.
00:49:10
>> Uh so
00:49:13
>> do you end up um having like a spiritual
00:49:15
hangover?
00:49:17
>> Like when you do like this is some
00:49:18
really heavy [ __ ] we're talking about
00:49:20
here. You do these readings. Yeah. How
00:49:22
how how do you decompress?
00:49:24
>> I I am very good at self-care. So, and I
00:49:27
I learned very early on that I am
00:49:29
literally the medium. Like, I'm the
00:49:30
middleman.
00:49:31
>> Uh so, it's, you know, it's for me to be
00:49:33
able to pass on and hold space for that
00:49:35
person and to leave those messages with
00:49:36
them. It's not something that I hold on
00:49:38
to. Uh but I, you know, I I'm I'm always
00:49:42
very sleepy,
00:49:44
so I've always got having an afternoon
00:49:45
nap. Uh but it's I I I'm very aware of
00:49:49
who I am as well. uh like I know exactly
00:49:52
how my body is feeling. I know how I am
00:49:54
mentally uh in terms of my own mental
00:49:56
health and I know what I need to do to
00:49:59
either lift my vibration or sometimes
00:50:01
you know just take a time out for
00:50:03
myself. So uh but when I'm reading I'm
00:50:05
not human really if that makes sense.
00:50:07
Like my you know my voice changes, my
00:50:09
thoughts change. Um there's video
00:50:12
recordings of me even speaking other
00:50:13
languages like you know it's sort of
00:50:15
like I'm not me anymore.
00:50:17
>> Well, you like channeling the the
00:50:18
person. Yeah, there's recordings of me
00:50:19
speaking fluent Vietnamese
00:50:21
>> and you're making sense.
00:50:23
>> Well, the girl said she Yeah, she
00:50:24
because I used when I used to do face to
00:50:26
face readings, they I let the people
00:50:28
that I was reading for record the
00:50:29
readings on their phones and I was
00:50:30
reading this beautiful lady like she
00:50:32
would have been in her 20s and her mom
00:50:34
had crossed over. I remember this is
00:50:35
actually a fun story. Uh and I said
00:50:38
apparently well I can hear it but a full
00:50:40
sentence in Vietnamese and I had no idea
00:50:43
I said it. I thought I spoke English.
00:50:45
And she said she the look on her face.
00:50:47
She was like like my mom always said
00:50:49
that. How do you know how to say that?
00:50:50
I'm like what did I say? She goes, "You
00:50:53
just spoke Vietnamese." I'm like,
00:50:54
"What?" That was at the very start. That
00:50:56
was like arguments like 2018. But
00:50:58
there's Yeah, there's recordings of me
00:51:00
speaking French, um, Arabic, Polish.
00:51:03
English is my only language and I can
00:51:04
barely speak that. You know what I mean?
00:51:06
Sort of like got that Aussie accent. How
00:51:08
you going? But like it's sort of like
00:51:10
Yeah. So, you know, with the Aussie
00:51:12
slang and that, but yeah, it's just uh
00:51:14
my boundaries are strong, but I allow
00:51:16
them to use me as the medium.
00:51:18
>> So, you just pass on whatever.
00:51:20
>> Have you needed to have any therapy or
00:51:21
anything?
00:51:22
>> Uh, probably. No, I haven't. Uh, but I
00:51:26
learn a lot from spirit. Uh, you know,
00:51:29
in terms of how life is, in terms of how
00:51:31
to take care of yourself, the messages
00:51:33
that they're passing on to people, I
00:51:35
will gain something in every single
00:51:36
reading about how I adapt that to my own
00:51:38
life. So whilst I'm doing trauma
00:51:41
counseling on someone, it's actually
00:51:42
trauma counseling for me as well.
00:51:43
>> If I'm helping them with relationship
00:51:45
advice or life advice or uh elements of
00:51:49
understanding their own journeys, it's
00:51:50
impacting me as well.
00:51:52
>> Uh so I make the joke that I do probably
00:51:56
belong in the psych ward. Uh but uh I
00:51:59
think I'm doing all right now.
00:52:01
>> Yeah. No, you you seem very balanced and
00:52:03
measured. Um I said on Instagram that
00:52:05
you're coming in and I've got a couple
00:52:06
of cards here which I put into into
00:52:08
sections just gathering them up. Um one
00:52:10
about grief and one about relationships
00:52:12
as well cuz relationships is a big part
00:52:14
of what you do.
00:52:14
>> Es absolutely I think everyone's got
00:52:16
questions around relationships. I know I
00:52:17
do personally. Yeah.
00:52:19
>> Um okay, we'll do relationships first.
00:52:20
Um yeah, you're quite famous for calling
00:52:22
out toxic relationships. What's the
00:52:24
biggest red flag you see over and over?
00:52:26
>> Oh, that's a great question. I think the
00:52:29
biggest red flag is when people realize
00:52:31
that they are doing wrong or doing harm
00:52:34
against someone else, but they're not
00:52:35
actively trying to change it.
00:52:37
>> And I think, you know, as we said, life
00:52:40
is a soul journey. We're all evolving
00:52:42
through our experiences, but when
00:52:43
there's certain people that will look at
00:52:45
their experiences and realize that maybe
00:52:46
they were toxic, maybe they realized
00:52:48
that they did wrong, but they're not
00:52:49
actively trying to upgrade or heal or
00:52:51
change it, that's a massive red flag.
00:52:53
>> But then again, maybe sometimes a lot of
00:52:54
people aren't aware of it. And that in
00:52:57
itself is a red flag. Uh, so if you can,
00:53:00
you know, I think it was Einstein that
00:53:02
said, you know, you can't keep doing the
00:53:03
same thing over and over again and
00:53:04
expect a different result.
00:53:05
>> Yeah, the definition of madness.
00:53:06
>> Yeah, it literally is the definition of
00:53:07
madness. But how many people
00:53:08
unfortunately do that, especially when
00:53:10
it does come to love or relationship?
00:53:11
>> Are you Are you in a relationship?
00:53:13
>> No. Do you know anyone?
00:53:15
>> I hope.
00:53:16
>> Is it hard for you to be in a
00:53:18
relationship?
00:53:18
>> Yeah. Well,
00:53:18
>> does it scare a lot of people off?
00:53:20
>> It does. That's it. Like I, you know,
00:53:21
I'm a gay man. Surprise, surprise. I
00:53:24
mean, having my hand like this the whole
00:53:25
time. No, just But I think Yeah. I I
00:53:29
don't want to block it, of course. And I
00:53:30
actually got uh pulled up by spirit last
00:53:32
year because I used to say as a form of
00:53:35
protection, I guess maybe because I was
00:53:36
a bit scared about the commitment, but I
00:53:38
used to say, "Oh, I'd love to meet
00:53:39
someone, but I'm happy being single."
00:53:41
Like, and I, you know, wholeheartedly
00:53:43
I'm not upset by being single. Like, I I
00:53:45
enjoy my life. I would love to meet
00:53:47
someone, though. And spirit said to me,
00:53:49
they're like, "Well, which one is it?
00:53:50
You want to meet someone, but you're
00:53:51
happy being single? Don't put caveats on
00:53:52
it. Don't put footnotes on it." Uh, so I
00:53:55
now change it. I would like to meet
00:53:57
someone. I think life experience for me
00:54:00
a lot of healing I had to do throughout
00:54:02
my 20s and my 30s. I probably wasn't
00:54:03
ready to be an effective positive
00:54:05
partner in someone's life. Uh now I feel
00:54:08
like I am. But I'm nearly 39 which is
00:54:09
basically retirement age and gay years.
00:54:11
So you know the clock's ticking time. I
00:54:13
got to get on. Uh but yeah, I would like
00:54:15
to meet someone. It it is a bit
00:54:17
intimidating though. I think I I mean
00:54:19
I'm generalizing of course but a lot of
00:54:21
people that I even meet for the first
00:54:22
time whether whether they're in a
00:54:24
relationship sense or even just a
00:54:25
friendship sense everyone does assume
00:54:27
I'm reading their minds uh or they
00:54:30
assume that I'm on as David the medium
00:54:31
24/7
00:54:33
>> how do you how do you put someone at
00:54:34
ease?
00:54:35
>> Well I it's not something you can do by
00:54:38
voice. I have to I tell them I'm not on
00:54:40
but I think that it comes down to that
00:54:41
intimidating factor that maybe they are
00:54:43
assuming that I am still reading their
00:54:44
minds and uh from a relationship
00:54:46
perspective like I've been on like I
00:54:48
actually got set up on a blind date
00:54:49
would you believe this was last year uh
00:54:52
2024
00:54:53
and it was a by a very good friend of
00:54:55
mine in Melbourne um and he's like I
00:54:58
want you to go meet my friend and I'm
00:54:59
like yeah cool and I was like can you
00:55:00
please tell him I'm a medium and he's
00:55:02
like no no no cuz I don't want him to
00:55:03
know anything about you if he knows that
00:55:04
you're a medium he might be able to like
00:55:06
stalk you online and find out about you.
00:55:07
I'm like, "Ah, here we go." So then I
00:55:09
got to the question. He's like, "Oh,
00:55:10
what do you do for work?" And I'm like,
00:55:11
"Oh god." I'm like, "I'm a psychic
00:55:14
medium." And then he went. But I was
00:55:16
like, "Oh god, he's not about that." And
00:55:19
he didn't ask any follow-up questions. I
00:55:21
was like, "That's my answer that you
00:55:22
know that he's not really feeling it."
00:55:24
So that's it. But you know, Dom, we only
00:55:26
need one person. And eventually there
00:55:30
will be that one person who's not
00:55:31
intimidated by me being a psychic medium
00:55:34
or or doesn't care. You know, that's the
00:55:36
thing. So I don't need everyone to be
00:55:38
accepting of it. Like I'm accepting of
00:55:40
who I am and I'm happy with who I am. So
00:55:42
someone else isn't. Not a me problem.
00:55:44
That's a them problem.
00:55:44
>> Yeah. That's a good
00:55:45
>> any of us in life. Yeah.
00:55:47
>> Um when you said before that a spirit
00:55:50
called you out about you saying I'm I'm
00:55:52
looking for love but I'm happy being
00:55:53
single. Who Who's the spirit? Is it like
00:55:55
someone?
00:55:55
>> It was actually in someone's reading.
00:55:57
Would you believe? And and the girl said
00:55:58
the same thing. And then it was one of
00:56:00
her love ones and spirit looked at me
00:56:01
and says, "Well, you say the same
00:56:02
thing." And I'm like, "Oh, I actually
00:56:04
[ __ ] do, don't I?" Like, "Yeah.
00:56:06
She was like, "Oh, no. It'd be nice to
00:56:08
meet someone, but you know, I'm I'm I'm
00:56:09
good single. I'm strong. I'm
00:56:10
independent. I love being single." And I
00:56:12
was,
00:56:13
>> and then spirit was like, "Well, you say
00:56:14
the same thing." And I was like, "Well,
00:56:15
that's it.
00:56:15
>> It's okay to be single. Absolutely.
00:56:17
There's nothing wrong with being single.
00:56:18
That's I I don't know whether you've got
00:56:20
a partner or not, but like, you know,
00:56:21
single's fine.
00:56:22
>> But if you are wanting to meet someone,
00:56:24
then you also have to embrace that. It's
00:56:26
okay to also because there is that that
00:56:28
internal fear of rejection, that fear of
00:56:30
like, oh, what if I do never find
00:56:32
someone, which admittably, we all
00:56:33
inevitably find someone if you're if
00:56:34
you're wanting it." Yeah.
00:56:36
>> But you just got to be comfortable with
00:56:37
that to be like, "Yes, I would love to
00:56:39
meet someone. I want to meet someone."
00:56:40
No caveats.
00:56:42
>> Why do you think so many people ignore
00:56:44
their intuition when it comes to love?
00:56:46
>> I think cuz we're very human.
00:56:48
>> We're all here for the human experience
00:56:49
and uh our intuition is something that's
00:56:51
a natural thought, but then our human
00:56:53
brain kicks in. Uh so if we intuitively
00:56:56
feel something, we then try and
00:56:58
logically explain it. And I think with
00:57:00
our intuition, with our soul connection,
00:57:02
you can't logically explain it from a
00:57:03
human perspective because it's a bit
00:57:05
deeper than that. Uh so with everyone,
00:57:07
like I said, sometimes ask yourself the
00:57:09
question with anything in life,
00:57:10
relationships, career, work, uh have a
00:57:13
conversation with yourself. Be like,
00:57:15
okay, like I arguments like this as an
00:57:18
example. Um for anyone listening, say to
00:57:21
yourself, you want to make a million
00:57:22
dollars in the next 12 months.
00:57:25
How do you instinctively feel about
00:57:26
that? Like before your brain kicks in,
00:57:28
do you feel nervous by that? Do you feel
00:57:30
excited by that? Does it give you a bit
00:57:32
of fear? Uh and then where do you feel
00:57:34
that on your body? Like if I feel fear,
00:57:36
is it in my stomach? Is it in my head?
00:57:38
Like you connect with the intuition
00:57:39
inside thing before the human brain
00:57:40
kicks in. And love's the same thing. So
00:57:42
we all want to meet someone. We all feel
00:57:44
connections with someone's but then
00:57:45
maybe our brain over analyzes it. Uh our
00:57:48
brain as all humans is also based on
00:57:50
past experiences. Sometimes the past
00:57:52
experiences aren't positive. So we bring
00:57:54
that into the the present which also
00:57:56
isn't fair. uh because we're basing our
00:57:59
intuition and our feelings on past
00:58:00
experiences which aren't valid anymore.
00:58:02
So, it's being able to be very
00:58:03
self-aware, have those very deep
00:58:05
conversations with yourself and but it
00:58:06
does require the work and I think a lot
00:58:07
of people are also fearful of putting in
00:58:09
the work.
00:58:11
>> What's the most common relationship
00:58:12
message that spirits want people to
00:58:14
hear?
00:58:15
>> Well, I mean they are all very unique. I
00:58:17
think the most common one Oh, coming to
00:58:20
think a good question.
00:58:24
The most common one that we want people
00:58:25
to realize is that so you have to also
00:58:27
realize who you are in a relationship.
00:58:30
That comes up a lot. So especially for
00:58:32
people that are looking to connect or
00:58:33
find love uh but also for those that are
00:58:36
in ones right now and are evolving into
00:58:38
relationships with their significant
00:58:39
others. It's okay for us to be able to
00:58:42
imagine or visualize how we want our
00:58:45
partners to be. You know, their
00:58:46
personality traits, their physical
00:58:47
traits, uh their behavioral traits, but
00:58:50
who are we in relationships?
00:58:53
Uh like uh I mean I'm being a terrible
00:58:55
psychic right now, but do you have a
00:58:56
partner at the moment?
00:58:57
>> Yeah.
00:58:57
>> Yeah. Perfect. So with her like oh I
00:59:00
assume it's a woman
00:59:02
>> otherwise this is a great you know just
00:59:04
broken up the podcast episode here.
00:59:06
>> Look at look at what I'm wearing. The
00:59:08
gay community wouldn't accept me.
00:59:11
>> Uh you know so you know with her like
00:59:14
you know you know what you're seeking in
00:59:15
a relationship for the most part. You
00:59:17
know what you would like to grow with
00:59:18
her.
00:59:20
then reflect back is are you the man
00:59:23
that's being able to support her
00:59:24
properly?
00:59:25
>> Are you the man that listens to her
00:59:27
properly? Uh for those of us that are
00:59:29
single at the moment, like I said, we
00:59:31
all know who we would like to meet in a
00:59:32
relationship. Is that person also
00:59:34
attracted to us? We've all got toxic
00:59:37
traits. We've all got past experiences.
00:59:38
There's nothing wrong with that. We
00:59:39
incorporate it into ourselves. You can't
00:59:41
deny it. Doesn't mean that it becomes a
00:59:43
dominating factor, though. But if I'm
00:59:45
seeking someone who's really motivated
00:59:46
and someone who's really driven and
00:59:48
successful, are they going to be
00:59:50
attracted to someone who doesn't want to
00:59:51
get out of bed before 1 p.m.
00:59:53
>> Someone who maybe doesn't want to put in
00:59:55
the work either career-wise or personal
00:59:59
wise. Uh so that's the biggest message
01:00:01
around relationships. So also remember
01:00:02
who you are as a partner.
01:00:05
>> Have you ever had to be too honest with
01:00:06
someone and thought, um, oh [ __ ] what
01:00:09
I'm about to say is about to ruin their
01:00:10
day.
01:00:12
Well, we haven't had your reading yet,
01:00:13
so we'll see. No, no, no, no. Um,
01:00:17
no. Is spirit is ever
01:00:20
branching off onto topics that can be
01:00:22
considered negative or sometimes tough.
01:00:24
It's always with the aim of how we get
01:00:26
through it, how you cope with it, or how
01:00:27
you deal with it, or they like to give
01:00:28
you tools, tricks, and uh different
01:00:31
understandings about how best to
01:00:32
incorporate it into your life. So, uh I
01:00:35
have told people that their partners are
01:00:36
cheating on them.
01:00:37
>> Usually, they're they had suspicion
01:00:39
already. Uh I have told people that yeah
01:00:43
I mean especially around CO like I was
01:00:44
like oh you're going to have massive
01:00:46
issues with business like uh mental
01:00:48
health concerns around CO as well you
01:00:49
know a lot of that was coming up with
01:00:50
people being very aware like you need to
01:00:52
really look after yourself.
01:00:54
>> Uh but that's the thing it's always a
01:00:55
dam of guidance. So it's never overtly
01:00:56
negative.
01:00:58
>> So so when you get a message that
01:01:00
someone's being um um cheated on by
01:01:02
their partner like what what do you what
01:01:04
do you see or hear?
01:01:06
>> So they love using pop culture reference
01:01:09
for me. So, I haven't had experience
01:01:11
with cheating myself, but uh they will
01:01:13
show me TV shows where, you know, it's
01:01:15
been brought up uh like, you know,
01:01:16
movies where there's been cheaters, uh
01:01:18
as a visual reference. And then I'll say
01:01:20
to the partner, uh usually spirit
01:01:22
questions them. They're like, you know,
01:01:23
I actually used to say straight out, I'm
01:01:25
like, "Have you had concerns about
01:01:26
cheating?" And they're like,
01:01:28
>> "Yeah." And
01:01:29
>> I was like, "Well, yeah." But then
01:01:31
spirit can get very specific because as
01:01:32
I said before, I aim for specivity. Like
01:01:34
I don't want to be like, "All right,
01:01:36
good. Leave it at that." And I'll be
01:01:38
like, well, like I delve right into it.
01:01:40
And it's again with the aim of being
01:01:42
respectful, you know, cuz we also are
01:01:43
approaching even on the cheaters life.
01:01:46
Like it's not for me to see their
01:01:48
personal things at the same time either.
01:01:50
>> But then, you know, there's one example
01:01:51
that comes into my head for privacy. I
01:01:52
won't say their names of course, but uh
01:01:54
she had concerns her husband might have
01:01:56
been plain up
01:01:59
uh and um I think it was her mama or her
01:02:02
grandmother or something. I remember it
01:02:03
was a strong female. She goes, "Well,
01:02:04
it's bloody Jess from the office.
01:02:08
And I said to her, I was like, "Does he
01:02:10
work with a Jess?" She goes, "Like the
01:02:13
very stereotypical like they're like,
01:02:15
"Oh, that's his PA." And I'm like, she's
01:02:18
like, "I [ __ ] knew it." I'm like,
01:02:19
"Yep." Well, you know,
01:02:22
>> you know, that's the thing. But like
01:02:23
again, it's not for me to filter it, but
01:02:25
I also need to be very respectful and
01:02:27
you need to be very spot on. Like you
01:02:30
can't just say to someone, "Your
01:02:31
partner's [ __ ] on you and joining
01:02:32
you day." cuz my I I don't want to place
01:02:35
that element of doubt in their minds. Uh
01:02:37
their relationship could have been
01:02:39
perfect and as a psychic it's not for me
01:02:40
to then put the seed of doubt in it. Uh
01:02:43
spirit will only bring it up if there's
01:02:44
that already. But you have to be very
01:02:47
careful. And I've been to mediums where
01:02:49
I look at maybe their practices of how
01:02:51
they have done their readings and I was
01:02:53
and I'm sitting there like are you
01:02:56
joking? Like you can't do that to
01:02:57
people. Like there's mediums that will
01:02:58
be like oh you've got very bad negative
01:03:01
energy coming up. Oh, you're in the
01:03:02
wrong job. Oh, you really need to leave
01:03:04
that partner.
01:03:06
Maybe that is the case, but help them
01:03:08
explain why. You can't just dump that on
01:03:10
someone and then be like, great, $500.
01:03:12
Thanks. See you later. Like, you know,
01:03:14
cuz you really, you're getting very
01:03:15
personal into people's stories and their
01:03:17
personal and their lives. You've got to
01:03:18
be very respectful and be able to hold
01:03:20
space in a, you know, positive way for
01:03:22
them.
01:03:23
>> Jes, you're um you're a villain in
01:03:25
Jesus' story, aren't you?
01:03:27
>> I hope so.
01:03:28
>> Jesus never coming to one of your shows.
01:03:30
I was like, "Jess, maybe you don't
01:03:31
listen to the podcast."
01:03:32
>> Um,
01:03:33
>> yeah. New to that relationship.
01:03:34
>> Yeah. What's uh the most dramatic client
01:03:37
reaction you've had?
01:03:39
>> Like a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of
01:03:41
tears, I'm imagining.
01:03:42
>> Yeah. I mean, anger ever. Anger or rage?
01:03:45
>> No one's been angry at me. I mean,
01:03:47
there's a lot of people that said that I
01:03:48
wasn't spot on, maybe because they just
01:03:49
weren't ready to listen to what we were
01:03:51
saying. Uh, so even in the readings,
01:03:53
they're like, "Oh, no, no, that's
01:03:55
wrong." You know, I've had I've had
01:03:56
people tell me I'm not good as a medium.
01:03:58
And then, you know, most of the time
01:04:00
come back with tales between their legs
01:04:01
being like, "Oh, okay, that did happen."
01:04:03
Um, but then there's the funny reactions
01:04:04
like especially when you read um men for
01:04:06
the first time and you know, they never
01:04:09
had experiences with it. And there's
01:04:10
one, I can't remember his name, but um
01:04:12
every time I said something, he banged
01:04:13
his hands on the table. He's like,
01:04:14
"What?" And he got up and kept walking
01:04:15
around the room. He was like [ __ ]
01:04:17
mind-b blown by it. Uh so, you know,
01:04:19
there's fun reactions, but yeah, then
01:04:21
there is, you know, there's the tears,
01:04:22
there's the laughter. Um as a medium, I
01:04:25
like to be very different to most. Um,
01:04:27
and I do it at my live shows especially,
01:04:28
but I like to bring laughter into it.
01:04:30
>> Uh, because we're dealing with very
01:04:32
heavy topics. Uh, it's very personal
01:04:34
topics sometimes, especially the live
01:04:35
show because it's very personal for
01:04:37
people to be there in front of 400
01:04:40
people talking about the dramas in their
01:04:41
life.
01:04:42
>> So, I love to add a bit of humor and a
01:04:43
bit of comedy into it because it helps
01:04:44
lift the vibration. So, we just want to
01:04:46
have fun with it.
01:04:47
>> Life is just about having fun. I think
01:04:49
>> you're very you're very sassy.
01:04:52
I I haven't been to one of your shows,
01:04:53
but I've seen some clips online and
01:04:54
yeah, I can imagine it. It's a It's a
01:04:56
lot of fun. And the reviews I've read as
01:04:57
well, they say they say it was almost
01:04:59
like part standup comedy.
01:05:00
>> Well, I get called David the Comedian,
01:05:02
which I think is the best compliment I
01:05:03
could have cuz I'm just a bloody idiot.
01:05:05
You know what I mean? Like I don't know
01:05:06
whose idea it was to give me a
01:05:07
microphone, but it's like I mean, you
01:05:09
know what it's like. Like suddenly
01:05:10
holding a microphone and it's like oh no
01:05:12
one can stop me now, can they? Like I'm
01:05:14
like they can't turn it off on me. Here
01:05:15
we go. Like so I just have fun with it.
01:05:17
Life is just about having fun. I mean
01:05:19
we've it's 2025. By the time you know
01:05:22
this episode comes out it'll be 2026.
01:05:24
How did life get so complicated?
01:05:26
>> Why is everything so just difficult now?
01:05:29
Like we needed to strip it back and
01:05:31
remember that yes, this is going on, but
01:05:32
just have fun.
01:05:33
>> Like we are completely for the human
01:05:35
experience, so make it the best that you
01:05:36
can actually have.
01:05:37
>> Yeah.
01:05:38
>> Yeah. There's a lot of tension out
01:05:39
there, aren't you?
01:05:41
>> I was talking about this with my Uber
01:05:42
driver on the way to your studio.
01:05:43
>> Like there's just so much tension and
01:05:45
you know whether it comes from you know
01:05:46
pop culture, political, you know, co
01:05:48
obviously upended the whole world and no
01:05:50
one's recovered from that. M
01:05:51
>> uh but now everything's so polarizing
01:05:53
and life is just getting a bit more
01:05:56
difficult and a bit more complex and
01:05:57
we're making it that way. Like it
01:05:58
doesn't need to be like this.
01:06:01
>> I've got a card here called um spir
01:06:03
spirituality, grief and healing. Just a
01:06:06
bunch of questions that came through on
01:06:07
Instagram which I thought I'd put in
01:06:08
this section. Yeah. Um
01:06:10
>> what do people misunderstand about grief
01:06:12
the most?
01:06:13
>> Uh great question.
01:06:18
I think we misunderstand that everyone
01:06:23
does feel the way that we feel in our
01:06:25
grief but at the same time grief is so
01:06:27
personal uh because everyone's story is
01:06:29
very unique. Uh but unfortunately
01:06:32
everyone does go through it. So when we
01:06:34
are grieving or when we're going through
01:06:35
very traumatic circumstances I think
01:06:38
it's very common for people to feel that
01:06:40
no one understands how they feel. M uh
01:06:42
and maybe in that some cases it can be
01:06:44
right because as we said it is very
01:06:46
personal but everyone can relate to
01:06:48
grief uh and people can be still very
01:06:51
supportive through grief even though you
01:06:52
feel like maybe no one understands that
01:06:55
doesn't mean that they're not there to
01:06:56
help you through it or support you
01:06:57
through it.
01:06:58
>> Yeah. Is there like a a a sort of set
01:07:01
period of time where it takes people to
01:07:03
get over the loss of a love? Like when
01:07:05
does it start to get easier for people?
01:07:06
>> Well, that's it. I I I don't think you
01:07:08
can put a time frame on it because I
01:07:09
don't think it ever gets easier for us.
01:07:11
I think when we have someone that we
01:07:13
love that crosses over uh even as a
01:07:16
medium like I maybe have a different
01:07:18
understanding of uh you know the process
01:07:20
and uh the experience of what it's like
01:07:22
in the afterlife but I don't miss my
01:07:24
loved ones any less uh and the biggest
01:07:28
misconception we make about uh crossing
01:07:30
over is that uh and this is tied in with
01:07:32
grief as well they cross over they leave
01:07:35
us but the person that we were also dies
01:07:38
in that moment as well.
01:07:40
>> Yeah. Um, and I don't think people give
01:07:41
that enough thought. The person,
01:07:43
>> you're never the same again.
01:07:44
>> You're never the same again. The person
01:07:46
that we were when we were with them also
01:07:47
no longer exists anymore.
01:07:49
>> Uh, and you can't put a a uh, you know,
01:07:53
it's very common for humans to try and
01:07:56
put a time frame on things and it's just
01:07:59
the understanding that it does continue.
01:08:01
But, uh, a message that comes up from
01:08:03
spirit very regularly and I talk about
01:08:04
this with friends as well. Uh, as much
01:08:06
as we're grieving, as much as we want
01:08:08
the world to just stop and to let us
01:08:10
think and to let us rest and to let us
01:08:11
gather our thoughts again, the sun's
01:08:14
still rising the following day.
01:08:16
>> Uh, like we might be going through the
01:08:18
most traumatic grief of our life, but if
01:08:20
you step outside, people are still going
01:08:22
about their lives.
01:08:23
>> Mhm.
01:08:23
>> Uh, and that doesn't change. So, you
01:08:25
know, it just continues. We learn to
01:08:28
become new versions of ourselves. And
01:08:31
even though we feel like we've taken a
01:08:32
shotgun to the chest,
01:08:34
>> Mhm.
01:08:35
Time still moves forward.
01:08:37
>> Yeah. And you have to you can't be
01:08:38
consumed by grief
01:08:39
>> and you have to. That's it.
01:08:41
>> Otherwise, it's a waste of another life.
01:08:42
>> Well, that's it. Well, that's that's
01:08:44
perfect. And that's the thing. I mean,
01:08:45
allow yourself the time to, you know,
01:08:47
feel and to and to it's okay to take a
01:08:51
little bit of time out just to gather
01:08:52
yourself, but
01:08:54
>> also remember what what do you think
01:08:56
your loved ones would want for you?
01:08:58
And that's important for everyone to
01:09:00
remember. like whether you uh have a
01:09:02
sibling crossover, a parent crossover.
01:09:03
Unfortunately, you know, as we said in
01:09:05
by the time we get to our age, people
01:09:06
have crossed over, uh what do you think
01:09:08
they want for you? Do you think they
01:09:10
want you to be in your bed crying all
01:09:12
day over them?
01:09:13
>> No. They want you to get up and live
01:09:14
life.
01:09:14
>> Yeah.
01:09:15
>> Uh so do it in honor of them through the
01:09:17
grief that you're feeling, through the
01:09:19
loss that you're feeling.
01:09:21
>> Change the table on it. Um allow
01:09:24
yourself to live the best [ __ ] life
01:09:25
that you can live in honor of them. And
01:09:29
that and that will help you evolve and
01:09:31
heal a bit.
01:09:33
>> That's clipworthy.
01:09:34
>> I know. I thought I thought that in my
01:09:35
own head. I was like, I need to write
01:09:36
that.
01:09:37
>> That's the end point.
01:09:39
>> Um, what's the most beautiful message uh
01:09:41
from a spirit that you've passed on?
01:09:43
>> Oh, honestly, every single reading I do
01:09:46
has a beautiful message in it. Uh, none
01:09:48
necessarily stand out because again,
01:09:52
it's all them wanting to know that their
01:09:54
loved ones on earth, that they are still
01:09:55
watching over them, that they are still
01:09:56
guiding them. I love when parents uh
01:09:59
reference their own children uh in uh
01:10:02
having children earthside. So I love
01:10:04
when parents validate in spirit that
01:10:06
they're now grandparents and they
01:10:07
recognize that and that's important for
01:10:08
everyone to remember as well. They still
01:10:09
watch over our lives.
01:10:11
>> Uh they can still see everything that's
01:10:12
going on because I think the biggest
01:10:14
part of grief and the biggest part of
01:10:15
that feeling of loss is that we feel
01:10:16
like that they have gone
01:10:18
>> and that they are going to miss
01:10:19
>> the momentum monumental moments in our
01:10:22
lives or the special moments in our
01:10:23
lives. And I want everyone to know
01:10:24
they're still right by your side.
01:10:26
they're still there with you. Talk to
01:10:28
them. Uh, one thing I tell everyone is
01:10:31
before that our loved ones cross over,
01:10:33
if you know someone's terminally unwell
01:10:34
or even if they're not, you know, even
01:10:36
if they're just healthy, have
01:10:38
conversations around passing over with
01:10:40
them. The western world in particular is
01:10:42
so fearful of death. Uh, because we feel
01:10:45
that it is this, you know, that it is
01:10:46
the end. But I say to everyone, uh,
01:10:50
create signs with your loved ones. Like
01:10:51
I talk about it with my loved ones. If
01:10:52
you were to cross over, I want you to
01:10:54
give me this song, this sign. Make it
01:10:55
very specific. So when that person
01:10:57
unfortunately does cross over, they can
01:11:00
give you that sign, they can give you
01:11:01
that song, that that n that rainbow,
01:11:04
whatever it may be to let you know that
01:11:05
they're still there. Uh and that's
01:11:08
beautiful.
01:11:09
>> If they are all all around us all the
01:11:11
time, why don't they make themselves
01:11:12
more
01:11:14
more visible or more present? Do you
01:11:15
know what I mean?
01:11:16
>> Well, they can if you're open to it.
01:11:18
Yeah.
01:11:18
>> Yeah. That's it.
01:11:21
Because like
01:11:23
>> if you how many but how many times do we
01:11:25
ask them to
01:11:27
>> like you know even as a medium I think
01:11:29
you know we all expected when our loved
01:11:30
ones cross over that we want to wake up
01:11:32
in the middle of the night with them at
01:11:33
the end of the bed saying hello to us
01:11:36
>> are most people ready for that is their
01:11:38
energy ready for that uh I think we all
01:11:40
get so stuck living the human life which
01:11:43
is fine because you know surprise
01:11:44
surprise we're human.
01:11:46
>> Uh but the signs are there if we look
01:11:48
for it if we ask for it. Uh, and I don't
01:11:50
think maybe people they want the signs
01:11:52
but have actually set the intention.
01:11:54
>> It is that simple because I get them a
01:11:55
lot now and I like I'm still completely
01:11:59
of a human experience. I don't want to
01:12:00
be David the medium 24/7. Uh, but I now
01:12:03
understand energy better than anything
01:12:04
else and I understand that it is all
01:12:06
energy and and we can manipulate energy
01:12:08
and bend it to our will and allow them
01:12:09
to manipulate it to show us that they
01:12:11
are still there.
01:12:12
>> Why do um why do you think so many
01:12:14
people carry guilt after someone dies?
01:12:16
>> Oh, another great question.
01:12:18
>> Damn. I outsourced all the great ones.
01:12:20
>> No, no, we're recording. It's all on
01:12:22
your body. Um, I think I felt, well, put
01:12:26
it this way. If I look at from my own
01:12:28
experience, my grandmother, for me, my
01:12:30
maternal grandmother was like a second
01:12:32
mom to me. The last proper conversation
01:12:34
I had with her, I argued with her.
01:12:38
>> So, I had guilt around that. I still
01:12:39
have guilt around that. Uh I think we
01:12:42
feel guilty because we feel like that
01:12:44
there is no opportunity to say sorry or
01:12:46
there's no opportunity for redemption.
01:12:48
When someone crosses over, we think
01:12:50
about all the things that we feel like
01:12:51
that we did wrong, not paying attention
01:12:54
to all the things we did right.
01:12:56
>> Uh you know, and sometimes people's
01:12:59
passings are very quick, very sudden.
01:13:01
They don't have the opportunity to say
01:13:02
goodbye to us. Uh but either way, even
01:13:04
if they're in hospital and we're holding
01:13:06
their hands when they cross over, we
01:13:07
still feel guilty. uh because it's a
01:13:10
very natural human reaction to suddenly
01:13:11
feel like that we should be doing things
01:13:13
differently all the time. You know, the
01:13:14
brain kicks in, that logic, that doubt,
01:13:16
that fear kicks in and it's simply not
01:13:19
the case. It's just something that we
01:13:20
need to let go of and we need to
01:13:21
remember that okay, maybe we should have
01:13:24
maybe done that a little bit
01:13:25
differently. But there was also those
01:13:26
99.8% of other times that were actually
01:13:28
perfect.
01:13:29
>> Is do a lot of people come to see you
01:13:31
because they want to be released from
01:13:32
some guilt.
01:13:33
>> 100%. A lot of people still feel so
01:13:34
guilty over certain things that they
01:13:36
said or that that they did or there's
01:13:38
also the worry from uh spirit uh that
01:13:40
they're being judged still
01:13:42
>> uh and uh or that their actions earth
01:13:45
side of making their loved ones ashamed.
01:13:47
That's another massive thing. Uh and to
01:13:49
touch on that uh our loved ones never
01:13:51
judge us because they understand
01:13:53
everything is soul journey again. So if
01:13:55
you were to say to me, oh David, like
01:13:58
you know we'll cut the cameras but I'm
01:14:00
actually a drug dealer. Like Dom
01:14:01
Harvey's dealing drugs and he's also
01:14:03
murdered two people. I don't think
01:14:05
that's the case, by the way. But like
01:14:07
your loved ones in spirit wouldn't be
01:14:09
like, "Oh my god, I'm so ashamed at Dom.
01:14:11
How could he murder someone? How could
01:14:12
he deal drugs? Oh my god, I can't
01:14:14
believe that this is my my son, my
01:14:16
grandson, my brother, whatever it may
01:14:17
be." They don't look at it like that.
01:14:19
They would be like, "Okay, Dom's dealing
01:14:22
drugs. Dom has killed someone. What is
01:14:24
Dom learning in that? How's that
01:14:26
impacting his soul journey? What lessons
01:14:27
is he learning? How's that impacting his
01:14:29
life?" They're not ashamed of us. They
01:14:31
don't judge us. The human part of them
01:14:34
definitely would have. You know what I
01:14:35
mean? Like if you go to someone like if
01:14:37
you go out into the office and you're
01:14:38
like, "Guys, I killed someone." Everyone
01:14:41
in the office would be like, "What the
01:14:42
fuck?" Cuz the human element tries to
01:14:45
quantify it or tries to compartmentalize
01:14:47
it into certain ways, but the spirit
01:14:49
says, "No, this is how it is. Okay,
01:14:50
how's this impacting his journey? What
01:14:52
changes does it make?
01:14:53
>> Your loved ones aren't judging you."
01:14:57
>> Um, yeah.
01:14:59
Even if someone is a skeptic, if you if
01:15:02
you're able to release people from some
01:15:03
sort of guilt that they carry, I think
01:15:04
that's um a really powerful thing.
01:15:07
>> Well, that's it. I mean, with skeptic
01:15:09
and I have read for skeptics, of course.
01:15:11
>> Uh but if they if I can just help them
01:15:14
see life differently,
01:15:16
uh or help them understand that maybe
01:15:18
there is more than they understand. Like
01:15:20
it's very typical of humans to think
01:15:23
that we know it all. M uh and you know
01:15:26
through life experiences the older that
01:15:28
we get if we're wise we realize that the
01:15:30
more that we know the less that we know.
01:15:32
>> 100%. Oh my god that is completely me. I
01:15:34
use that line all the time.
01:15:35
>> Exactly. So so why would spirituality be
01:15:38
anything different? Maybe as we said you
01:15:40
haven't had experience with it yet or uh
01:15:41
but you know we're very silly as humans
01:15:45
to think that this is it
01:15:47
>> or that with everything in life we see
01:15:49
everything. We understand everything.
01:15:51
Even as a medium, I know that I'll never
01:15:54
understand everything as a medium. The
01:15:55
more readings that I do and the more
01:15:57
that I do this again, the more that I
01:15:58
realize I'm not understanding
01:15:59
everything.
01:16:00
>> Um, each reading is like opening a new
01:16:03
doorway to a new understanding for me.
01:16:05
>> Yeah.
01:16:05
>> Uh, so be curious, be open, and just uh,
01:16:09
you know, always want to be better and
01:16:12
want to learn more
01:16:14
>> with anything in life.
01:16:15
>> What's the um, what does the future hold
01:16:16
for you? Where do you see yourself in
01:16:18
the next year, 3 years, 5 years?
01:16:19
>> Great question. I you know.
01:16:20
>> Do you want to be Do you want to be like
01:16:21
the next Tyler Henry? Is that his name?
01:16:23
The
01:16:23
>> Yeah, the American guy.
01:16:25
>> Yeah. I met him at the airport actually,
01:16:26
would you believe? In LAX? Yeah. Really?
01:16:28
Just by chance?
01:16:29
>> Yeah, just by chance. It was really
01:16:30
funny. And then I he he got up to walk
01:16:32
and I was like, I'm going to follow him.
01:16:33
And then he went to the bathroom. I'm
01:16:34
like, okay, well, don't follow him into
01:16:35
the bathroom. Wait until he comes out to
01:16:37
say hello. Uh but I you know, I learned
01:16:39
very early on, you know, given my
01:16:41
journey,
01:16:43
what's the point of planning life? If I
01:16:45
was rigid and I planned life, I I
01:16:47
wouldn't be David the medium. be working
01:16:48
in counterterrorism for the federal
01:16:50
government in CRA at the moment probably
01:16:51
in Australia of course.
01:16:53
>> Uh I have goals that I want to reach but
01:16:55
I also understand that life likes to
01:16:58
throw curve balls at us. I think every
01:17:00
single person listening understands that
01:17:01
life has probably thrown a cable at them
01:17:03
once or twice before. So there's
01:17:06
definitely goals and accomplishments I
01:17:07
want to reach. I don't plan life
01:17:09
anymore. Uh you know to look at the next
01:17:12
12 months I don't know what that looks
01:17:14
like. I'm open to any opportunity that
01:17:15
comes my way, of course. Uh but I'm also
01:17:18
very good intuitively now that if things
01:17:20
are presented to me, I know whether it's
01:17:23
right or not. And I think that's how
01:17:25
really I've got as far as I have. Uh
01:17:27
because I didn't plan it. I didn't, you
01:17:29
know, I didn't go into mediumship
01:17:31
wanting to be famous or wanting to have
01:17:33
a public image. I wanted to go into
01:17:34
actually help people because I realized
01:17:36
the healing benefit it had on me. And
01:17:37
then I realized the healing benefit was
01:17:39
having on other people when I started
01:17:40
doing readings. But I wanted to be able
01:17:41
to do that for everyone. Uh, and I
01:17:43
wanted to be able to show them a
01:17:44
different way of life. So, if me having
01:17:46
a public profile or doing some bigger
01:17:49
things into the future helps more people
01:17:52
have exposure or experiences with it,
01:17:54
then I'll happily do it. Uh, but if we
01:17:57
do anything for our ego, if we do
01:17:58
anything because we want to be well
01:18:00
known or we, you know, I want to become
01:18:03
famous so then I get free [ __ ] or like I
01:18:06
mean, I'm actually open to that if
01:18:07
anyone's listening, but like, you know,
01:18:09
but that's it. You're doing it from a
01:18:10
low frequency or low vibration. It's
01:18:12
never going to if it's not authentic, it
01:18:14
won't work. And that's the biggest
01:18:15
lesson for everyone in life. I'm sure
01:18:16
even, you know, with someone who's as
01:18:18
distinguished in career as you are,
01:18:20
>> if you weren't authentic and if you
01:18:22
didn't love it and if you didn't have
01:18:23
the passion or the the positivity around
01:18:25
it, it wouldn't have gone as far as it
01:18:26
would.
01:18:27
>> So, I think most people most people can
01:18:29
spot a fake from a mile away, can't
01:18:30
they?
01:18:31
>> That's it. And, you know, I'm in an
01:18:33
industry where it's there's a lot of
01:18:34
eyes on it because it is people
01:18:36
automatically assume I already am a fake
01:18:38
from the go-get. So, and that's the
01:18:41
thing like there are I don't doubt that
01:18:43
they're [ __ ] mediums. I've been to some
01:18:45
>> uh I've also been to [ __ ] doctors. I've
01:18:46
been to terrible accountants. I've been
01:18:49
I I worked with some bad lawyers. You
01:18:51
know what I mean? There's people in
01:18:52
every industry that maybe aren't their
01:18:53
authentic best.
01:18:55
>> What do what do your old mates um in in
01:18:58
the legal profession make of what you're
01:18:59
doing now? Some of them must think
01:19:00
you're bonkers, right?
01:19:01
>> I would love to know.
01:19:04
For my own mental health, I don't talk
01:19:05
to any of them anymore. But there's also
01:19:07
that ego part of me that wants to go to
01:19:09
my old boss who was an absolute [ __ ]
01:19:10
and be like, "How you going
01:19:13
>> because I can guarantee they know about
01:19:15
me." Like that's the thing. Like they've
01:19:17
got mutual friends that I'm friends with
01:19:19
their friends. Like that's it.
01:19:20
>> That ego part of me just wants to be
01:19:22
like, "Yeah, hey, what do you think
01:19:23
about this?" Like
01:19:24
>> but you know that's the thing.
01:19:26
Everyone's open to you know their own
01:19:28
opinions.
01:19:29
>> This has been a lot of fun.
01:19:30
>> Thank you. Likewise. I' I've really
01:19:32
enjoyed talking with you. Got some Yeah.
01:19:34
Great questions.
01:19:34
>> Yeah. Well, thank you. It's been really
01:19:36
nice to connect. I'm so pleased that um
01:19:37
yeah, our mutual friend Jamie made this
01:19:39
happen.
01:19:40
>> Yeah.
