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the this this this young man on the the
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cover of the book, Dream Dealer, what
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would um what would he make of the 74
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year old man sitting here today? Uh, I'd
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be quite surprised that I got so far
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because [laughter] I I never thought
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that I could ever when I even when I
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first entered university as a as a a
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lecturer at level three, near the bottom
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of the lecture scale, I never would have
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dreamed I could have ever I never ever
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imagined that I could ever have become a
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professor.
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But um I worked hard and uh and I but I
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didn't really know the way things worked
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in those days either. But um yeah, I
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wouldn't have thought
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and and at that age of course I you
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don't at the age of I was only 18 when
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that was taken.
