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WE'RE IN A SPIRITUAL CRISIS!

November 03, 202501:30
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You are the single most requested guest.
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And let me tell you, this has not been
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easy because we went to some hard
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places. But I don't think we'll ever
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talk about anything more important than
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this. Cuz it's not fear that gets in the
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way of us being brave with our lives and
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our work. It's the armor that we reach
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for to self-protect when we're afraid.
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And the hardest work is being aware of
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what is my armor when I'm afraid.
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Is that automatic?
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Oh no. That's a train.
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And what about vulnerability? Like is
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vulnerability important?
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It is. if we want to be brave with our
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lives. But we were raised to believe
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that vulnerability is weakness. Like in
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my family, we were allowed anger. But
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sad was not an option. You needed to be
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tough. And so when I get scared, when I
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feel anxious, disappointed, I'm just
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angry. And so when you're raised without
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vulnerability, it'll put you in
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jeopardy. Like you want to know what
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vulnerability is? Joy. Joy is so
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vulnerable that people choose to live
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disappointed rather than to get excited
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about something and risk getting sucker
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punched by disappointment. Like there is
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no courage without vulnerability because
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courage is the willingness to show up
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and be allin when you cannot predict the
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outcome.
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Wow, I've never thought about that
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before.
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But you can develop skills.
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Remember four steps to courage.
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Yes. We've taken 165,000 people through
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this work. That included how to build
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trust
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and I've heard about your marble jar
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theory. Could you explain to me what
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your marble jar look how excited you
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are.
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I know.
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So this is how we teach trust to the
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most senior leaders in Fortune 100
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companies. It's awesome.

Podspun Insights

In this episode, the conversation dives deep into the complexities of vulnerability and courage, revealing how our upbringing shapes our emotional responses. The guest shares personal anecdotes about the armor we wear to protect ourselves from fear, and how this armor can hinder our ability to embrace vulnerability. The dialogue explores the misconception that vulnerability equates to weakness, emphasizing that true courage involves showing up authentically, even when outcomes are uncertain. With a focus on practical skills, the episode introduces the 'four steps to courage' and the intriguing marble jar theory, designed to teach trust in leadership. This enlightening exchange challenges listeners to rethink their relationship with vulnerability and inspires them to embrace their fears for a braver life.

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Episode Highlights

  • The Importance of Vulnerability
    Vulnerability is essential for bravery and joy, despite being seen as weakness.
    “There is no courage without vulnerability.”
    @ 00m 58s
    November 03, 2025
  • Building Trust with Marble Jars
    A unique method for teaching trust to leaders in Fortune 100 companies.
    “It's awesome.”
    @ 01m 27s
    November 03, 2025

Episode Quotes

Key Moments

  • Self-Protection Armor00:15
  • Courage and Vulnerability00:58
  • Trust Building01:27