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The Chaos of Donald Trump's Cabinet Picks | Pivot

November 15, 2024 / 10:41

This episode discusses Donald Trump's recent cabinet appointments, including Matt Gaetz for Attorney General and Elon Musk's role in government efficiency. The hosts express skepticism about the qualifications of these picks and the implications for the Republican Party.

The conversation covers various controversial appointments, such as Tulsi Gabbard for Director of National Intelligence and Kristi Noem for Homeland Security. The hosts critique the absurdity of these selections and the potential impact on governance.

They also reflect on Trump's status as a lame duck president and the challenges he faces in pushing through his agenda. The hosts highlight the disconnect between Trump's announcements and the expectations of Republican lawmakers.

Additionally, the episode touches on the broader implications of Trump's leadership style and the chaotic nature of his administration. The hosts question the effectiveness of the proposed changes and the overall direction of the government.

Finally, the hosts introduce the term 'kakistocracy' to describe the current political landscape, emphasizing the perceived incompetence of those in power.

TL;DR

Hosts critique Trump's cabinet picks, highlighting absurdity and questioning their qualifications amid a chaotic political landscape.

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Donald Trump is back at the White House
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this week meeting with President Joe
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Biden promising a smooth transition
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unlike what he did by the way Trump has
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also been busy with lots of
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announcements about his cabinet advisers
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the one that is they started off normal
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Susie Wilds Marco Rubio and now we're at
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the Matt Gates's pick for attorney
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general um uh and uh Fox News weekend
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host Pete hegf for Secretary of Defense
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um we'll get to Elon Musk and VI ramas
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Swan's leading the Department of
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government efficiency or as I'm calling
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it the department of grotesque eego
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Maniacs or the department of
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grandstanding edge Lords um I don't this
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is like gets weirder and [ __ ] weirder
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and this is a you your initial are your
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initial thoughts on this cadres is feny
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unqualified scants as one writer called
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them also in the mix tels uh Russia's
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best friend telsey gabard for Director
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of National Intelligence and Christy
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gnome killer of dogs for Homeland
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Security secretary Chuck Todd posted
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these confirmation hearings may just
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save cable TV for the short term he got
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sort of dinged for it but I would have
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to agree uh first before whether they'll
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make it through overall thoughts it just
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degenerated it was like okay and then no
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like that kind of thing what do you
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think well he's made there's some
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additional announcements that have come
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out he's announced that Sue Sylvester
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Jane Lynch's character from Glee is
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going to lead the department of
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Performing Arts um uh and also Leia
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Michelle will lead the department of pun
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punctuation and spelling uh um also I
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don't know you he the most recent one go
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Bluth from Arrested Development Will
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Arnett's character is going to be the
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new Secretary of Housing and Urban
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Development oh my God and also Baron har
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Conan from uh Dune will head spice
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production on the planet of araus nice
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nice
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look I'm now believe I now
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believe the the appointment or the the
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floating of the idea of Matt gates for
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attorney General within about an hour
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Lisa Makowski or senator macowski who I
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love uh basically said this is that Matt
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Gates is an unserious candidate and I
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look forward to vetting a serious
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candidate I don't I think this was them
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saying you're a loyalist give them
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something and what they've done I think
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is run cloud cover for just a shitty
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pick as opposed to a [ __ ] crazy
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stupid pick and that's what Mt Gates is
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to be AG that just makes no sense and
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then if you really want to talk called a
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loyalty test for Senate Republicans in
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newly elected reader leader Senator John
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th they all were pushing for Rick uh
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whatever the Florida idiot um Rick Scott
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Rick Scott he was he was the one that
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magot was pushing absolutely yeah I
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don't think Rick Scott is an idiot I
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don't love his politics but oh my God he
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made a mess of the senate committee he
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was running 100% but he's he's at least
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confident he's elected I I don't know
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look perfect is not on the menu here I
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mean when Senator Rubio looks like a
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thoughtful pick with gravitas for
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Secretary of State everyone just hoping
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for someone who has some administrative
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and some leadership experience but my
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favorite is that there are not one but
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two heads of a committee on efficiency I
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mean that kind of tells you I know I
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know this makes no [ __ ] sense and I
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are you kidding and I just want to it's
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like the grace commission right do you
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remember the grace commission under
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Reagan he was going to drain the swamp
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and he created that Commission of
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leaders to cut everything the private
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sector survey on cost control to reduce
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government waste Clinton had it launched
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the national performance review yeah W
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had the president's management agenda
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Obama had efficiency reforms and Trump
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created the reform task force to
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eliminate inefficiencies he attempted
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unsuccessfully to shut down 19 agencies
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and it this is a popular political move
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23s of Americans think the federal
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government is wasteful and bureaucratic
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and but let's just look at some data
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here Trump is by no means our most
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efficient president federal employment
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federal employment under Trump Rose 3.4%
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during his first term compared to an
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increase of
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1.3% in Obama's uh second term um uh it
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did increase federal employment did
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increase by over 6% under Biden despite
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all the rhetoric the US government
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spends less as a share of GDP than its
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peers uh US government spending is
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projected to be about 38% of GDP that's
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less in Japan which me 42% UK 43% in
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Germany at 48 % the US public sector
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which they claim over for their citizens
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but go ahead yeah true the US public
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sector employs 14% of workers which is
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more than Germany's 133% and Mexico's
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12% which canotes based on what you said
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is probably inefficient but less than
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France is
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21% and the UK is 23% now let's just
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specifically go to The Pick of of uh
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Elon or Al first lady Alania to head an
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efficiency let's just talk about
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efficiency at Tesla the automobile
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industry Revenue per employee is 1.07
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million per employee of BMW GM 1.2 1
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Point excuse me 1.02 million per
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employee Ford $980,000 million per
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employee Mercedes-Benz $950,000 Toyota
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760,000 and pulling up the rear as the
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least efficient of these companies is
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Tesla clock or registers revenue of
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740,000 per employee so the least
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efficient car company Revenue per
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employee is Tesla so anyways I find the
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whole thing it'll be very interesting
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they claim they're going to cut this
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thing by I don't know $2 trillion which
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means they'd have to like he didn't
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mention it in the press release no
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numbers like he went on and on on
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Twitter but of course like that's just
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nonsense it's just nonsense it's just
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nonsense anyways I I'm finding this
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thing is so if you're going to be dumb
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be don't don't be dumb be outrageous no
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one's really taking this seriously
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because it just seems so outrageous no
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all even Congressman were like yeah he
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can ask we're not doing it um you know
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even the repu the Republican ones the
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gates nomination is interesting only
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because um he what's interesting about
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this is of course his behavior with
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young women women underage he resigned
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fromg alleged alleged whatever okay
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alleged Gates whatever uh resigned from
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Congress on Wednesday days before the
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house Ethics Committee was set to vote
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on releasing a highly critical report of
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their investigation into him what is
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your take I agree with you that I I
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think I I just think there's a lot of
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Republican first off the thing I don't
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think the market or people have absorbed
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is as of today Donald Trump is a lame
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duck president yeah and he's not going
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to have he's not going to have nearly
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the power to intimidate Republicans and
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I got to think it's going to be very
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tempting for Republicans on a pick like
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this to go no this to basically pull a
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marowski and say this is not a serious
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candidate I got to think the Trump
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Administration realized he probably
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wasn't going to be able to get Gates
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through but they did it anyways what do
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you think they're trying to do here
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what's their ending I don't know because
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they're frittering away an amazing
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Victory right you know it seems like now
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they're like now we're like oh God the
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idiots are back like I don't know he has
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such an opportunity to not Fritter away
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what was a spectacular return to power
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and now we're talking about Matt Gates
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and and and uh and and jail bait that's
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what we're talking about now like as
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opposed to like what he could be doing
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and then Elon doing these stupid you
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know he's going to calling it The
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Manhattan Project of our time yeah it's
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going to blow up in their face that's
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that's why it's the Manhattan Project of
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their time like it's such a waste of
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opportunity here and largely because I
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think he is of the mind is I'll say
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something crazy and then I'll say the
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next thing that's crazy and the next
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thing that's crazy but it's I'm talking
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about being effective and this is not
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effective in any way if he really you
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know maybe over to the right they're
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like going to be deporting people and
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hoping that people no don't notice that
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if it's particularly ugly looking and so
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I I honestly I think there's no planning
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here and I think they're just letting
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people in interestingly um you know I
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think the Doge thing is just [ __ ]
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nonsense it's just ridiculous and um you
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know you can't really uh there's not
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going to be a government Department
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which is kind of ridiculous and you need
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to be created by with congress's
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authorization they're not wasting their
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time on that and they're not they're
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going to cut what they want right um so
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one of the things that's interesting is
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that he's been down in Mara Lago and as
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I said was an issue everyone's now
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reporting um how irritating he is um and
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NBC News quoted a source saying Elon is
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behaving as if he's co-president people
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are irritated by him the guests that
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won't leave um I think this is just
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they're frittering away what was a clear
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and definitive win and I'm not sure why
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they're doing it Su suicidal nature I
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don't know I not I have no idea I don't
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know I do think that the appointment of
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the Bass Pro Shop swimmer guy as head of
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us fish and wildlife service makes sense
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I don't
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just um oh and Roman Roy will be the new
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Deputy Administrator of NASA yeah yeah I
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just don't I don't get Hannibal Lector
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is the new secretary of Health and Human
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Services serves oh God I don't I don't
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get by the way I'm I'm what a laughable
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ridiculous personality she is they're
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all Fox News people it's you know who I
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like though who's now the new uh Senate
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Majority Leader is um th th yeah I like
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him I think he's reasonable and not only
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that he pushes back on Trump and not
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only that he's very handsome Cara yeah
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you like did you up for drinks with him
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he's very handsome I don't know if he'd
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be up for impromptu drinks with me and
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George H I'll try but I'm not I'm going
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to give I'm going to give you a word of
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the day it's called
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kakistocracy government by the least
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suitable or competent citizens of the
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states a state or Society governed by
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the least seatable or competent citizens
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it's the modern regime is wants a
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plutocracy and a kakistocracy that is
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the word of the day here okay no joke I
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heard that word an hour ago Scott Burns
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who is the showrunner and the writer on
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this this show I'm working on said uh
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was talking about rebranding the
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Democratic party and someone suggested
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kakistocracy and he's like are you crazy
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no one's no one can spell that word
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anyway I no joke I feel like I should
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throw salt over my shoulder or whatever
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it is you do when you're yeah when
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you're I don't know superstition but I
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heard that word no joke 90 minutes ago
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the day it's a word of the week well
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we'll see what happens

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This episode stands out for the following:

  • 70
    Most unserious (in a good way)
  • 60
    Most chaotic

Episode Highlights

  • Trump's Cabinet Picks
    Trump announces a series of unconventional cabinet appointments, including fictional characters.
    “Oh my God and also Baron har Conan from uh Dune will head spice production”
    @ 01m 43s
    November 15, 2024
  • The Concept of Kakistocracy
    A discussion on the term 'kakistocracy' and its relevance to modern governance.
    “Kakistocracy: government by the least suitable or competent citizens”
    @ 09m 49s
    November 15, 2024

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  • Bizarre Appointments00:08
  • Kakistocracy Defined09:49

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