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Debating an RFK Jr. Interview | Pivot

May 14, 2024 / 04:08

This episode discusses the potential interview with Bobby Kennedy, the challenges of interviewing controversial figures, and the dynamics of presenting differing viewpoints.

The hosts reflect on Bobby Kennedy's environmental advocacy and his request to appear on the podcast. They express concerns about his credibility and the difficulty of countering misinformation.

One host mentions their experience interviewing controversial figures and the need for preparation when dealing with charismatic individuals who spread falsehoods.

They also discuss the general opinion that Kennedy lacks a viable path to the presidency, which influences their decision on whether to host him.

The conversation highlights the balance between presenting guests in a positive light and addressing potentially harmful ideas.

TL;DR

The episode debates hosting Bobby Kennedy, focusing on the challenges of interviewing controversial figures and misinformation.

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can I ask you a professional question
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sure so you know Bobby Kennedy was on
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Bill Mah when I was on right yeah and I
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got to know him by the way incredibly
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likable guy um obviously and impressive
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in
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person and not like that to be fair he's
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been great on the environment he's been
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a leader like around the environment and
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some issues anyways um I got to know him
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texted me and said uh and his head of
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Comm said we'd really like to come on
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the prop gpod oh no okay uh so I met
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with the team and I said Bobby wants
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Bobby Kennedy wants to come on the prop
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you pod uh what do you think what would
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you do may not have him on not have on
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why maybe um maybe yeah see it's not
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it's not a slam dunk isn't it it took me
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a while to think about it I have to say
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not because of like listen I've
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interviewed lots of you know I had the
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Parlor guy if you remember right after
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the the thing I didn't agree with most
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everything he said and he of course
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ended up getting fired from that
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interview um
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I I don't mean to say you're not
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qualified to take this guy on but I
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think you will give that wasn't the
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answer I was looking for Cara well I I
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think I I wouldn't be qualified I don't
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think I think I think he's a yeah right
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I I don't you're not qualified to bring
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this guy on you need a lot of prep on
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this one a lot of prep and you need to
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counter him because he's a profession
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he's he lies almost constantly and
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misrepresents things he said and so get
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even getting him spewing stuff is a
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problem like you just catching his many
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many misconceptions of everything and
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and countering but unless you're an
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epidemiologist you're not going to be
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able to do that which is essentially why
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we decided not well some reporters are
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more qualified than others to do that
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and stuff that's if you're that's just
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on certain things he like spouts off all
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kinds of conspiracy theories you know
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that and doing the some people said so I
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think it's a very difficult interview
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and he's charismatic which is hard to
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deal with when someone seems reasonable
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and then throws in a lie here and there
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and think that's difficult this is why I
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would I would had a very difficult time
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with this fella um the other thing a
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couple days to figure it out this is not
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an insult to you but you give people a
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lot of you you you try to come to comedy
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with people and you're uncomfortable in
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comedy or comedy comedy yeah not don't
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start doing joking around with jark
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that's like a death no I I I was I
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didn't know what you were I didn't know
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I didn't know you are you try to see the
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best side of people right and I think
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this is a very cynical Disturbed person
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so I I think you are too nice you're too
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wanting to come to some can't we all get
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along and in some cases no we just can't
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you're no my interviewing style I
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believe in what Sam Harris said that you
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want to present people in their best
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light and that just might not be the
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right approach to this right I don't
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know what is your staff thing oh was
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Universal no uh the general view was
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realistically it doesn't have a path to
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presidency yeah so if Donald Trump
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called and said we want to be on your
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podcast I'd have him on and I would do
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my best to be prepared um right in that
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case I'd say yes but they said he really
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doesn't have a path all he's going to do
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is potentially be a spoiler and the
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general sense was that he has been while
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he's been very good on certain topics
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that he's been so reckless but I told
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him I texted him back and I don't think
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he'd mind this well maybe he would but
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I'm going to say it anyway as I said the
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general view is that you've been uh so
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reckless on the issue of vaccines that
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we don't want to platform those ideas
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for fear that they'll get the residents
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they really legitimately don't deserve
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he gets one in he always get Liars
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always persistent Liars always get one
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in um and you have to really counter
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them I think I did a good job in that
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parlor interview where he started saying
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many people say and I said nobody says
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that and here's the nobody who says it
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you show them you know you have to be
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real tough and vicious almost and I
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think you're not I I think it's a
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quality I like about you you're not
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capable of it I don't think you're you
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just feel bad because you said I wasn't
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worthy I wasn't up to it now you're
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trying to back I don't think many people
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are up to it I don't think many
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interviews do a good job with him
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honestly

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Episode Highlights

  • The Challenge of Interviewing Bobby Kennedy
    Discussing the complexities and challenges of interviewing Bobby Kennedy, especially regarding his views on vaccines.
    “It's a very difficult interview; he's charismatic which is hard to deal with.”
    @ 01m 56s
    May 14, 2024
  • The Recklessness of Vaccine Misinformation
    The decision to not platform certain ideas due to their potential harm.
    “The general view is that you've been so reckless on the issue of vaccines.”
    @ 03m 25s
    May 14, 2024

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  • Interviewing Challenges01:56
  • Vaccine Misinformation03:25
  • Charismatic Liars03:35

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