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[Music]
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it just sounds like something bad is
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happening to her I heard her scream no
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stop it I heard some gunshots
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that does not prove that I killed my
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wife we know what happened because the
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video tells us what happened the camera
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doesn't lie
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this time on Killers caught on camera
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in California a young boy goes missing
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while in the custody of his father and
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her interaction is really sad because
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this is the last time she's going to see
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him
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and in the UK
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he's when you stopped it
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Garden security camera captures the
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moment before a brutal murder we can see
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an individual crutching down it's got
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linear form could be a weapon one of the
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neighbors heard screaming coming from
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next door a man shouting die die
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[Music]
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foreign
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[Applause]
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California
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home to aramas andressian Junior a
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five-year-old boy known affectionately
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as peaky
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his father is RMS andressian senior his
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mother Anna Estevez
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Anna had wanted a child all along she
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had gone through medical procedures to
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try and conceive and piki was her pride
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and joy
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foreign
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to her
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he was her only child
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[Music]
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she had a difficult time with
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pregnancies and this was her baby
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Anna speaks about his love for cooking
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baking in particular he was such a happy
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child had a great childhood love to
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learn
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and if you know Anna you know that Anna
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was a principal at an elementary school
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so education is a big part of her life
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and she wanted to instill that in picky
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as well
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eight years of marriage things turned
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sour and Anna filed for divorce
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Louis Aguilera is a homicide detective
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for the Los Angeles County Sheriff's
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Department
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we learned that the divorce proceedings
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were quite contentious that both parties
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were making allegations against each
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other
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and it was a smear campaign basically on
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both sides
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peaky's parents Anna and aramaz became
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embroiled in a bitter custody battle
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Anna was concerned about how RMS senior
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treated piki she claimed he was
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aggressive and yelled in their son's
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face
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despite these allegations the court
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ordered joint custody and granted each
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parent seven consecutive days with their
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child on the condition that they handed
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piki over on neutral turf
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so the initial order for visitation
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allowed peaky's father to take him for
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an entire week and so Anna dropped off
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peaky at the police station made sure
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that his father took custody of him
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RMS senior was planning to take piki to
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Disneyland
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so this video was given to us by Anna
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and this was taken from her cell phone
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that she mounted on her dashboard to
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document the custody Exchange
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Anna was so concerned about piki's
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Father's behavior that she decided to
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record all of their exchanges on camera
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what's unusual to us is you see when
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she's
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hugging peaky and saying her goodbyes to
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him
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ARA's pacing in the background
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seems fidgety and nervous and just weird
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the way he's acting
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and you see the affection they have for
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each other and then look at him in the
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background
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at this point peaky's whispering in her
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ear and talking to her he gives her a
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kiss you'll see him caress her hair he
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whispered to her I don't want to go with
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him I want to stay with you
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Kiki's body language with his father is
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in complete contrast
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his body and legs arching away
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seven days later on Saturday the 22nd of
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April 2017. aramas senior and piki
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failed to turn up at the pre-arranged
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drop-off point in San Marino
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Anna is in San Marino waiting for ARA to
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return peaky she finally contacts San
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Marino police department at 10 A.M and
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says hey
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my son was supposed to be here a couple
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of hours ago and my ex-husband is an
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answer in his phone
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he's not returning text messages
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he's a couple hours late and he's
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violating the order
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here's his license plate they research
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it on their computer and they see that
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his car had been towed
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by South Pasadena Police earlier that
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morning
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Craig hum is head of the major crimes
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division in the LA County District
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Attorney's office
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well the peaky Anderson case first came
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to my desk a couple of days after
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piggy disappeared so we were involved
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pretty much from the beginning peaky's
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dad aramas senior had been found on the
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morning of Saturday the 22nd of April
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he was lying on the ground
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unconscious in Arroyo Seco Park
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his father was found in a disheveled
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condition he claimed he didn't know what
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happened to piki
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the jogger happened to see him at 6 30
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in the morning and she called the police
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so when South Pasadena police officers
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arrived that morning they found him
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passed out
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you see ARA's car Aura was about 30 feet
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behind the car
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on a horse trail so they transport them
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to the hospital not thinking anything of
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a missing child
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they talked to them further in the
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hospital and he does say that I think I
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was assaulted
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I'm going through a divorce
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and I think my ex-wife might have had
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something to do with it
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that's all he says he makes no mention
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of his child at all
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so South Pasadena Police just tow his
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car they leave him at the hospital not
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thinking anything of it
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Kiki's father claimed that he didn't
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know what had happened to peaky and so
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the police treated it as perhaps some
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kind of abduction or that perhaps peaky
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had just wandered away when his father
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was unconscious and so initially they
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treated it as potentially a missing
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person's case
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when you have a missing person case the
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first thing you want to do is contact
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the relatives of that missing person to
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get the Dynamics of the family
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relationship so we did a background
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investigation on the father right away
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he had never been arrested
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he had a bachelor's degree from one of
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the local universities
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he had never even been cited for a
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moving violation or a park in violation
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so he had a clear record reading into
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his background it didn't lead me to any
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clues didn't make me think any different
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other than his child's missing
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children cases are resolved very quickly
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and children also when they go missing
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usually run away from home and either
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they come back or they're found it's
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usually an innocent situation that
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people get very worried about very
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quickly understandably and the police
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take very seriously but of course in
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this case there was this other factor
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which was the father and the lack of
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trust in the father and worry about what
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he might do with the child
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foreign
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based on the fact that he had custody of
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his child
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he didn't know the whereabouts of his
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child South Pasadena arrested him for
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child endangerment he was deemed to be
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under the influence of drugs opioids
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and they arrested him for that as well
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after his arrest police questioned
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piki's father
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our main goal more than anything in here
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is to find yourself
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and if you can give us any information
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to help us find him that's what we're
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trying to do
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he's stuck to the story I think I was
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assaulted I'm having this horrible
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divorce with my ex-wife
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she might have had something to do with
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it
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I wanted to
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find from the beginning I was wanted
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always so
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you know it's been tough you know
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because you know
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I all I just want is what is in the best
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interest of our 50 50. and that's why
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and and it's like
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more and more it's just a continuous
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battle
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he continued to tell that story all
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morning
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but RMS still couldn't tell the police
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where piki was
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no one knows what you're selling
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something did you give him to somebody
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else
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RMS seniors physical appearance also
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raised suspicion
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I noticed on his hands he had abrasions
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on the palms of his hands
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[Music]
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no any
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you don't remember
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you don't remember digging around
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outside and it's not dirt you don't
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remember
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did you have car problems or anything I
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I did not is that grease or you don't
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know it's not Greece I mean if I I would
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love it if you guys take a sample so you
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don't remember
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no
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[Music]
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we had his hands photographed as well
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and in the bedding of his fingernails
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they were covered with dirt and the
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photos were quite significant because of
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the abrasions that he had
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on the palms of his hands
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and some blistering as well
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the contents of aramaza's recovered car
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began to paint a worrying picture
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there was a sonogram of piki that was
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propped up on the dashboard there was
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also a full gas can and the car had been
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doused in gasoline on the inside and a
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rag was stuck in the gas cap
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it looked like it was an apparent
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attempt to light the car on fire
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the LED lantern that stood out to me
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that was still lit
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there's the sippy cup that we took as
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evidence and the jacket that had vomit
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on it as well
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the police questioned aramas again to
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establish a timeline of events
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from the moment he picked up piki to
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seven days later when he was found lying
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in Arroyo Seco Park
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we wanted to get a statement from him
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and lock him into a story
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okay what did you do this past Thursday
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we went to Disneyland I sent
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investigators out to follow up on that
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timeline but before we did that we made
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the decision to release him from custody
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we didn't feel like a child endangerment
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case was strong and he was more viable
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to us to be out of custody and maybe
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help us
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with this investigation
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and locating this child
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plus we wanted to keep eyes on them
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the police tracked aramas's every move
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and started to compare his testimony
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with the recordings
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cameras in and video evidence were
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critical in this case they set a
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timeline for us
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the first video was from Anna's dash cam
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on Saturday the 15th of April 2017.
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five days later aramaus was captured on
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his own home surveillance camera
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served a search warrant at ARA's house
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and we located video from the house of
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him leaving on Thursday afternoon prior
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to going to Disneyland
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we saw that he walked out of his house
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to his car with the large Blue duffel
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bag
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and he also had a large gas container in
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his hand
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neither one of those items have ever
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been recovered to this day
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we conducted DNA tests of the bathrooms
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and didn't locate any evidence of any
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crime in the house but we did take a
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hard drive we discovered that the week
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he had his son he created a will online
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and in that will he left everything to
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his mother and he left everything to his
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sister including a hundred thousand
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dollars in cash he left nothing to his
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son
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which told us a lot
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the next time peaky and his father were
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filmed was at Disneyland
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taken from the entrance at Disneyland
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and you can see ARA picky up and carry
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him through the turnstiles and we found
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a video from Disneyland that we were
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able to locate
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he was seen leaving Disneyland
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at about 1am
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ARA our next scene at an Arco Am Pm gas
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station in Monterey Park
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and that's about two o'clock in the
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morning on Friday
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six hours later aramaz appeared on a
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camera over 120 miles away at Lake
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kachuma an artificial Reservoir in Santa
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Barbara County
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there's a booth at the entrance where
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people pay to get into the parking lot
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that was extremely useful because from
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that video we could tell that peaky
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wasn't in the car
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there's a child seat in the back of the
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car and that would be where piki would
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normally be seated and the car seat was
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empty
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the fact that peaky couldn't be seen in
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the car told us that something had
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happened to peaky between the time that
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he had left Disneyland with his father
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and the time that biki's father arrived
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at Lake kachuma
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Lake Cachuma puma and made several
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visits to the local store which were
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caught on camera
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so in this first
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still photo you see Aura arriving into
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the convenience store you buy some items
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and which was a concern to us was that
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there was no peaky
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you see him leaving with no peeking
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and then he enters the store a second
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time buys more miscellaneous items
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and there's no peaky again
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police checked every piece of video
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footage against aramaz's testimony what
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they found was strong enough to Warrant
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a search teams on Horseback with
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tracking dogs combed 30 square miles
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around Lake Cachuma
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helicopters examined the area from above
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divers went into the water but there was
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no trace of peaky meanwhile 400 miles
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away in Las Vegas aramas senior was
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becoming a cause for concern his father
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refused to cooperate with the police any
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further refused to talk with them
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refused to tell them anything at all so
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the police put Piggy's father under a
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physical surveillance and they also
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worked with us to obtain a wiretap so
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that we could monitor any phone calls
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that piki's father was making to see if
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we could get any information from that
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from the physical surveillance of
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Piggy's father from the phone calls it
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was clear that he had no interest in
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looking for his son there was no even
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attempt to appear concerned about his
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his son's well-being and that was in
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direct contrast with piki's Mother Anna
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who was still frantically trying to find
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her son still going to the media asking
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for anybody's help in in finding her son
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over the couple months that peaky was
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missing Aura not at one point called us
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asked us how our investigation was going
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on he never took part in the searches
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for peaky
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he never questioned anything never spoke
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with Anna
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Bridge obtained during the investigation
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showed arama's acting erratically
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ARA was in Las Vegas going from casino
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to casino hotel to hotel having a good
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time he was using a lot of Narcotics
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he was meeting women in hotels
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he was skydiving
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welcome to skydive Las Vegas how you
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doing awesome awesome obviously you're
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feeling extra stupid today
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so I have to throw you out of a plate
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because of that
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prior to him jumping out of the plane
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[Music]
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he mentions I love you buddy
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I love you buddy that's what he referred
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to peakyas
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let's do it
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and he jumps out of the plane
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so he's off having a good time
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not a care in the world
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his behavior just became more and more
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inconsistent with that of a grieving
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father and it almost seemed like this
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was kind of his last hurray because he
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knew that at some point in time this was
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all going to catch up with him foreign
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going to Vegas and gambling and
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skydiving and engaging in just a series
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of high-risk behaviors is not a normal
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reaction to your child going missing it
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is however a normal reaction to having
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Nothing Left to Lose
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before
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and as time went on aramaza's Behavior
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became even more bizarre ARA is now
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changing his appearance and he's
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starting to mention to friends
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that he might leave the country and he's
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starting to research countries that
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don't extradite and that became a
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concern to us because now we're thinking
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he's going to flee and we'll never see
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him again
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police couldn't risk aramas slipping
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their net he was arrested on a no body
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murder charge and taken back to LA
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County
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detectives couldn't have predicted what
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happened next
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[Music]
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door
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struggle
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and
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[Music]
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I guess I'm struggling
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and she would touch your brain what she
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said
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and then he said he
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took his son
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down the hillside
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and that's why you haven't where he
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slipped and fell
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that's why you have his nails covered in
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dirt
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and he said he sat his son along the
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side of tree didn't bury him
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[Music]
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so to him it was more Honorable in his
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head
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that he didn't bury his son and he Place
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him up against a tree
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the fact that he gave so much detail
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about what he did during the commission
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of this crime to me just shows that it
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was almost certainly what sometimes
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called like a flash ball memory so he
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probably has thought repeatedly about
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this incident it's basically traumatized
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him whether he was doing this out of
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catharsis so to feel better or to make
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sure that the police have the whole
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story this was a highly stressful highly
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emotional event that was strongly
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preserved in his memory and he is now
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getting it out of his mind
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on the 30th of June 2017
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71 days after piki was reported missing
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police officers finally found peaky's
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body
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based on the description that piki's
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father gave to the police they were able
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to find the location and they were able
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to locate piku's body which was not that
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far off of the parking lot area propped
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against a tree just like his father had
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said and piki's body was dressed in the
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pajamas that his father had described at
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the time that he confessed
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what we wanted to do was bring that
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child some dignity
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that his father didn't
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and we placed him in a helicopter
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with one of our detectives and flew him
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back to LA with that Detective
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RMS andressian senior was charged with
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first degree murder
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initially he maintained his innocence
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but he changed his mind and decided to
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plead guilty in court on the 1st of
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August 2017.
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at this time
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[Music]
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for the rest of your life
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just explain to you sir
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he pled guilty because he didn't want to
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go through Court proceedings
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that were going to show what a bad
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person he was
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he made it seem as though he pled guilty
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to help Anna to help the rest of the
00:24:10
family
00:24:12
but in his narcissistic way he knew
00:24:15
everything he had done
00:24:18
after murdering that child including all
00:24:20
his Vegas trips and the partying and the
00:24:22
drugs and the women were going to come
00:24:24
out in court
00:24:25
and he didn't want any part of that
00:24:28
are you feeling that the freely and
00:24:30
voluntarily and because that is what you
00:24:31
want to do listen Okay quite
00:24:34
exceptionally I find you guilty based on
00:24:35
your plea
00:24:37
detectives believe aramaza's motive was
00:24:40
to hurt his ex-wife
00:24:41
murdering their child as an ultimate Act
00:24:45
of Revenge
00:24:50
taking piki to Dunn is a really
00:24:52
interesting facet of this case because
00:24:54
it goes against the idea that he's
00:24:57
dehumanizing his child because it sounds
00:24:59
like he might be trying to give his
00:25:01
child the best last days of his life in
00:25:03
which case he's entirely seeing him as a
00:25:05
child he actually is
00:25:07
and yet he's then making the decision to
00:25:09
then end his life so there's this
00:25:11
Discord going on between wanting the
00:25:13
child to be happy and live a fulfilled
00:25:15
life but then also taking that life away
00:25:16
entirely in some way Disneyland is like
00:25:19
a Vegas for children and it's having
00:25:21
that Reckless fun Euphoria before death
00:25:27
that maybe he was trying to offer his
00:25:28
son
00:25:29
that he perhaps was also trying to do to
00:25:32
himself
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oh
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I think he did it because he wanted to
00:25:40
hurt Anna
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and he knew the only way to hurt Anna
00:25:43
was to take away the most important
00:25:45
thing in her life
00:25:47
and that was peaky
00:25:50
this is the last time she's going to see
00:25:52
him
00:25:53
it's the last time she's going to be
00:25:54
able to touch him
00:25:58
peaky meant the world to her
00:26:01
and he still does
00:26:03
and he knew this
00:26:05
and that was the ultimate pain he could
00:26:07
cause was killing their child
00:26:11
despite the successful prosecution there
00:26:14
are still many unanswered questions
00:26:16
around aramaz's Behavior
00:26:19
did he mean to set that car on fire
00:26:22
using that rag that was sticking out of
00:26:24
the gas cap as an ignition point
00:26:28
since the entire car was doused in
00:26:30
gasoline did he want to commit suicide
00:26:37
without the cameras aramas may never
00:26:40
have been held accountable for piki's
00:26:42
murder
00:26:44
cameras are one of the most important
00:26:47
things to a homicide detective
00:26:50
that exists they set a timeline for when
00:26:54
the last time that peaky was seen alive
00:26:55
which was the video from when he left
00:26:58
Disneyland at about one o'clock in the
00:27:00
morning later on that morning at around
00:27:02
eight or nine o'clock in the morning PK
00:27:04
was no longer with his father in the car
00:27:06
so it gave us a window of when piki was
00:27:10
killed it also gave us an indication of
00:27:13
where the crime actually occurred
00:27:16
foreign
00:27:18
was comprehensively caught on camera
00:27:23
he was given a sentence of 25 years to
00:27:26
life in prison
00:27:29
it really sticks with you on the death
00:27:31
of children and then the fact that a
00:27:33
child is murdered by their parent is
00:27:35
just something that never goes away and
00:27:37
it it never ceases to amaze me what what
00:27:42
people will do to their own children
00:27:44
I've had over 350
00:27:47
homicide cases
00:27:50
and this is the only funeral I've ever
00:27:52
attended
00:27:54
it was uh really somber I'll never
00:27:57
forget it
00:28:09
surveillance cameras were crucial in
00:28:12
solving the piki andressian case
00:28:14
all around the world CCTV has become
00:28:17
almost omnipresent
00:28:20
home surveillance and doorbell cameras
00:28:23
in particular have become a global
00:28:25
billion dollar industry
00:28:31
the UK the covet pandemic and the
00:28:34
increase in home deliveries created a
00:28:36
huge demand for doorbell cameras
00:28:40
the doorbell cameras for home security
00:28:42
for that specific address for a property
00:28:46
owner to be able to see who was
00:28:47
approaching their frontal rear of their
00:28:49
property
00:28:51
you could see if somebody was delivering
00:28:54
Parcels for example
00:28:59
evidence for the police
00:29:02
in the murder of Stephen and Jennifer
00:29:04
Chapel
00:29:06
the investigation team will actively
00:29:08
seek if there are any doorbell cameras
00:29:10
within the area that may have you know
00:29:12
captured the incidents itself or the
00:29:14
offenders movements
00:29:17
in the southwest of England in the
00:29:20
county of Somerset lies the small
00:29:22
village of Norton fitzwarren home to
00:29:26
just over 3 000 people including married
00:29:29
couple Stephen and Jennifer Chapel
00:29:33
Jennifer and Steven lived in a small
00:29:36
housing estate where everyone knew each
00:29:38
other Jennifer Chapel worked in the
00:29:41
local Garden Center Cafe and her husband
00:29:44
Stephen was a teacher they were very
00:29:47
much in love and they had two young
00:29:50
children and they were friendly
00:29:53
approachable people that were they were
00:29:56
liked by almost everyone
00:29:59
Stephen and Jennifer lived next door to
00:30:02
Colin and Kaylee Reeves
00:30:04
the Raves family and the Chapels were
00:30:07
friends I during lockdown they texted
00:30:10
each other checking in on each other
00:30:12
making sure everyone was okay I believe
00:30:15
that Mrs chapel and Mrs Reeves shared
00:30:18
the school van because they had children
00:30:20
of a similar age and then it all sort of
00:30:23
changed
00:30:25
tensions escalated between the two
00:30:28
families over the parking spaces
00:30:30
directly outside their homes
00:30:33
this minor annoyance was growing into a
00:30:37
daily obsession
00:30:39
Mrs Chapel had bought a second car and
00:30:42
she used to park it on the road at the
00:30:44
bottom of the Reeves's parking space and
00:30:48
this didn't exactly obstruct at the
00:30:51
Raves as parking space but it made it
00:30:52
more difficult for Colin Reeves to
00:30:55
reverse in and out of his space
00:30:58
Colin Reeves confronted Jennifer the
00:31:01
exchange was captured on her doorbell
00:31:03
camera
00:31:03
here
00:31:11
Emmy Polito is a forensic video analyst
00:31:14
and an expert witness in criminal cases
00:31:16
in the UK
00:31:18
the sound in this clip is particularly
00:31:20
important
00:31:22
the actual camera has got a microphone
00:31:24
as well that will switch on and off
00:31:26
depending on how loud the conversation
00:31:28
is
00:31:34
spotlight
00:31:36
okay
00:31:40
when a Colin is close to the camera we
00:31:43
can clearly hear what he's saying to
00:31:45
Jennifer this vehicle we're seeing here
00:31:47
belongs to Jennifer this is the vehicle
00:31:49
that is that is causing upset to him
00:31:52
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00:31:58
well
00:32:03
but the situation intensified
00:32:08
Steven chapwell Jennifer's husband was
00:32:11
maneuvering out of his parking space and
00:32:14
he accidentally bumped Colin Reeves's
00:32:16
car so that kind of changed the
00:32:19
relationship a bit after that they
00:32:21
weren't quite as friendly
00:32:24
the relationship deteriorated further
00:32:26
over arguments about the Chapel's cat
00:32:29
and other Petty disagreements
00:32:33
there was then quite a tense exchange of
00:32:36
swear words between Colin Reeves and Mrs
00:32:38
Chapel
00:32:42
he's the one who started
00:32:45
we can identify Jennifer here and we
00:32:49
know from recognizing the voice and from
00:32:51
previous recordings that that's Colin
00:32:59
for the police this is essential because
00:33:01
it kind of proves that the relationship
00:33:03
between them is deteriorating rapidly
00:33:05
and is therefore at this point where
00:33:08
potentially something violent and
00:33:10
Sinister could start working in Collins
00:33:12
head
00:33:15
we can all relate to being in a dispute
00:33:18
with a neighbor because whether it's
00:33:20
noise or someone parking in your spot or
00:33:22
the person next door gardening too often
00:33:24
these are invasions of your sense of
00:33:28
space and your sense of Sanity sometimes
00:33:31
and I think that compounding of even
00:33:33
trivial tiny things over and over and
00:33:36
over and over again is like pushing into
00:33:38
a wound and at some point it can feel
00:33:40
like the only way to deal with it is to
00:33:44
take dramatic action
00:33:49
the tensions extended beyond the front
00:33:52
door
00:33:54
Colin Raves had gone to the garden
00:33:57
center with Mrs Chapel worked and she
00:34:00
said that he was serenade apparently he
00:34:02
went there twice
00:34:04
Jennifer Chapel definitely felt
00:34:06
intimidated by his presence and
00:34:09
definitely felt like he had gone there
00:34:11
to scare her or to make her feel uneasy
00:34:17
Colin Reeves was an Army veteran
00:34:20
it was part of the royal engineers and
00:34:23
in 2008 then he went to Afghanistan
00:34:26
where he was stationed at Camp Bastion
00:34:28
in his role with the Royal engineers and
00:34:32
also on the prisoner of war of camp
00:34:35
when Colin returned from Duty his
00:34:38
experience of War had an impact on him
00:34:40
it affected his work and his
00:34:43
relationship he was a different Colin he
00:34:46
had completely changed he was withdrawn
00:34:49
relations between Colin and Kelly
00:34:51
started to break down Colin Reeves did
00:34:54
turned a drink and when he was drunk he
00:34:57
was abusive to his wife clearly
00:35:01
Collins experiences in the Army had also
00:35:03
led him to develop a fear of camera
00:35:06
surveillance which affected his civilian
00:35:08
job as a truck driver
00:35:12
he felt like he was always on camera
00:35:14
because there were cameras watching him
00:35:16
in the Lorry and he became more and more
00:35:18
depressed and withdrawn
00:35:21
on the 21st of November 2020 Colin went
00:35:24
to Taunton with his mother and children
00:35:26
to see the Christmas lights being
00:35:28
switched on
00:35:31
I live with areas surrounded by crides
00:35:34
and his mum said that she could see he
00:35:36
felt very uneasy being in such a crowded
00:35:39
place after lockdown he also saw the War
00:35:41
Memorial in Taunton and Colin Reeves
00:35:44
said that this reminded him of
00:35:46
Remembrance Day which was always a
00:35:48
difficult time for him
00:35:51
when Colin got home he put the kids to
00:35:53
bed it had already been a tough day then
00:35:57
his wife Kaylee asked for a trial
00:36:00
separation
00:36:01
following math then Colin went and sat
00:36:03
on the stairs and he said he cried
00:36:09
just 40 minutes later a man was captured
00:36:12
on Stephen and Jennifer Chapel's Garden
00:36:14
camera
00:36:16
we can see an individual crutching down
00:36:21
the suspect was trying absolutely
00:36:24
everything not to be detected by the
00:36:27
Light
00:36:29
because the footage is an infrared and
00:36:31
because of the angle of you we can't
00:36:33
identify this person at this stage
00:36:37
but what we can see
00:36:40
it's some black tonalities on the right
00:36:43
forearm which might indicate a tattoo
00:36:48
but it's got a linear form which is
00:36:50
extending from the hand potentially
00:36:53
could be a weapon
00:36:56
this tiny detail uncovered in the
00:36:58
footage was about to become hugely
00:37:01
significant
00:37:04
one of the Chapel's neighbors watching
00:37:06
TV with his partner when he heard
00:37:08
screaming coming from next door and he
00:37:11
heard
00:37:12
a man shouting die die
00:37:17
we can see the cat
00:37:20
running away from the scene
00:37:23
could indicate that there's something
00:37:24
inside the property that the cat is
00:37:27
obviously scared about
00:37:29
a similar figure leaves the house with
00:37:32
completely different body language
00:37:35
the suspect is not crouching or sneaking
00:37:38
anymore potentially this could indicate
00:37:40
that he has got no more people to worry
00:37:43
about hearing him or seeing him
00:37:47
moments later a 999 call is made
00:37:54
to the police what's the location of
00:37:56
your emergency
00:38:01
husband and the mother
00:38:04
oh okay and you're safe at the moment
00:38:07
yes right have you got any injuries
00:38:09
whereabouts have you been stabbed
00:38:11
no not me the neighbors the neighbors
00:38:13
been stabbed by who
00:38:15
hi mate by you yes right okay what's
00:38:20
your name Colin Reeves all right call
00:38:23
them tell me exactly what's happened
00:38:24
take a deep breath
00:38:27
we have a first admission of guilds from
00:38:30
the caller
00:38:31
the emergency calls are very important
00:38:33
pieces of evidence the operator is not
00:38:36
only providing a support and help but is
00:38:39
also Gathering uh information about what
00:38:41
has happened which is being recorded
00:38:44
I went out yeah with a knife okay
00:38:51
um
00:38:52
I've stabbed both of them all right how
00:38:54
many times
00:38:58
I don't know a couple times each not
00:39:02
two or three times each maybe
00:39:04
are they still conscious and breathing I
00:39:08
don't think so no okay pollen signed a
00:39:11
pretty weapon for a man who just stabbed
00:39:13
his neighbors he was able to answer all
00:39:16
the questions asked of him by the call
00:39:18
Handler all right what kind of knife did
00:39:21
you use
00:39:23
favorite soccer okay
00:39:31
the famous voice that we heard in the
00:39:33
background is the caller's wife
00:39:35
all right Colin just down the line to
00:39:37
meet you okay we're gonna get some help
00:39:38
out there
00:39:40
so you stabbed them both several times
00:39:42
yes you've done the right thing by
00:39:44
calling us okay
00:39:49
next door at the Chapel's house the
00:39:52
neighbors were first on the scene
00:39:55
after they'd heard the screaming from Mr
00:39:58
Mrs Chapel's house they went into the
00:40:02
Chapel's house where they find them
00:40:04
lying on the floor in a pool of blood
00:40:06
they checked the Chapels for a pulse and
00:40:08
could find none
00:40:11
Steven and Jennifer's two young children
00:40:13
were asleep upstairs the police arrived
00:40:16
ready to arrest Colin
00:40:20
at first Colin raises Father Brian came
00:40:23
out of the house and they thought that
00:40:25
he was Colin Reeves the man that they
00:40:27
were supposed to be arresting put your
00:40:30
hands up right him yeah go in
00:40:33
put your arms up
00:40:37
listen you're under arrest at the minute
00:40:40
and the attempted murder of two people
00:40:43
inside the address next door do you
00:40:45
understand
00:40:47
so you can see bloody One camera on this
00:40:49
officer he gives us a visual of the
00:40:52
defendant we can see his tattoos the
00:40:55
same clothing let's walk over here a
00:40:58
minute can't we
00:41:00
Colin had already confessed to the
00:41:02
double murder but in the police
00:41:04
interview it was as if he was still in
00:41:07
the Army on active duty
00:41:12
still my job
00:41:16
confused to I am here
00:41:21
I was in an operation
00:41:24
in another police interview Colin
00:41:26
refused to answer questions
00:41:34
how were you involved in their deaths
00:41:40
in court Colin pled guilty to
00:41:42
manslaughter on the grounds of
00:41:44
diminished responsibility
00:41:46
his defense argued that the security
00:41:48
light in the garden triggered his
00:41:51
post-traumatic stress disorder which led
00:41:53
him to kill Stephen and Jennifer Chapel
00:41:56
we can clearly see ill intention
00:42:00
possibly a weapon being held we can kind
00:42:04
of discern that was already there to
00:42:06
commit a crime or to cause some serious
00:42:09
hurt
00:42:14
things like lights including white
00:42:16
lights can trigger flashbacks which are
00:42:19
one of the main symptoms of
00:42:20
post-traumatic stress disorder so that
00:42:22
piece of it is reasonable
00:42:25
but then saying that that caused him to
00:42:27
kill his neighbors is nonsense people
00:42:30
with post-traumatic stress disorder
00:42:32
aren't Justified to kill people and they
00:42:35
don't typically go on to harm anybody so
00:42:37
that that's a huge leap from what is a
00:42:40
likely trigger for a flashback whether
00:42:42
or not it actually triggered a flashback
00:42:44
I don't know
00:42:45
but even if it did that is no excuse to
00:42:48
then go and murder people
00:42:53
in court the details of what actually
00:42:56
happened on the night of the 21st of
00:42:58
November were revealed
00:43:00
Colin Reeves went to his military plaque
00:43:04
on the wall and this was a framed or an
00:43:07
event that he was given when he left the
00:43:09
RMA and it had a ceremonial dagger which
00:43:12
was traditionally given the soldiers you
00:43:14
know when they were decommissioned when
00:43:18
Colin Reeves went into the Chapel's
00:43:20
living room he was met by Steven Chapel
00:43:22
at the door
00:43:24
they stabbed him at least six times some
00:43:27
of the ones were up to 21 centimeters
00:43:30
deep
00:43:31
Steven Chapel then stumbled a couple of
00:43:34
steps forward and fell near the door
00:43:39
Colin Reeves then went over to the sofa
00:43:41
where Jennifer Chapel was sitting and he
00:43:44
stabbed her six times as well and she
00:43:46
then slumped forward onto the floor and
00:43:49
that's that's where she died when I
00:43:52
spoke to the place Colin Rave said that
00:43:55
he'd stop Mr Mrs Chapel a couple of
00:43:58
times eight but in fact it had been
00:44:00
quite a sustained and bloody attack
00:44:05
a jury found Colin Reeves guilty of
00:44:07
murder
00:44:08
he was sentenced to a minimum term of 38
00:44:11
years in prison
00:44:16
in one very big research study on
00:44:18
British soldiers researchers found that
00:44:21
soldiers especially those who returned
00:44:23
from active duty so who were in combat
00:44:25
they are three times more likely to be
00:44:27
convicted of violent offenses
00:44:30
and if we're looking at numbers one in
00:44:33
five so just over 20 percent of people
00:44:36
who return under the age of 30 are
00:44:39
convicted of a vile defense which is
00:44:41
astronomical
00:44:42
the numbers are so high partly because
00:44:44
in military training you're taught that
00:44:46
violence is a conflict resolution tool
00:44:48
that that ends your disputes second
00:44:51
there's often an aggrandizement of
00:44:53
aggression so it's valued it's seen as a
00:44:56
positive trait to be aggressive and
00:44:57
stand your ground I'm absolutely not
00:44:59
saying that everyone who is in combat or
00:45:02
is part of the military and comes home
00:45:04
that they are a danger to society we
00:45:06
need to be really careful not to be
00:45:08
leaning into the hero to zero narrative
00:45:12
because that can be really
00:45:14
stigmatizing also for individuals
00:45:16
themselves instead what we should be
00:45:18
looking at is making sure that support
00:45:19
that transition is effectively supported
00:45:22
so that we don't have these kinds of
00:45:23
outcomes
00:45:27
I think the motor of Stephen and
00:45:30
Jennifer Chapel is quite an unnerving
00:45:32
one because Colin Raves
00:45:35
probably had nothing more than
00:45:37
depression and anxiety like a lot of
00:45:40
people but that combined with the
00:45:44
dispute over the parking caused them to
00:45:47
just snap one day it doesn't make any
00:45:50
sense what he did and like his children
00:45:53
have no father because he's in prison
00:45:55
and the Chapel's Sons or orphans
00:46:02
foreign
00:46:27
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