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Mysteries a 17-year-old boy disappears
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after a party his body is discovered in
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a ravine no one knows how or why he
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died Franklin Floyd claims to love his
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son but why did he kidnap the boy and
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why does he refuse to tell authorities
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where they can find
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them a serial kill
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offers a helping hand on the highway
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then kidnaps and murders his
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victims and two mothers believe their
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children who died tragically have spoken
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to them from Beyond the
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Grave there is nothing like a good
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mystery and they're even better when
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they're true I'm Dennis finina join me
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won't you
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this is Michael Hughes he is 6 years old
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in this picture and he's missing Michael
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was living with foster parents when he
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was kidnapped by Franklin Floyd who
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claims to be his father you're acting
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like I walked up to a McDonald's and
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took a strange boy and walked off with
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him and that's where you're
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wrong actually Franklin delanor Floyd is
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not the father of Michael Hughes in fact
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Floyd was convicted of kidnapping
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Michael and was sentenced to more than
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5050 years in prison Floyd insists the
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boy is alive and safe but he refuses to
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tell anyone where Michael is or who is
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taking care of
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him this case against Franklin Floyd and
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Michael Hughes is one of the most
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bizarre we have ever profiled it's a
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twisted tale of Cruelty and self-d
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delusion that defies
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belief one fall morning
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Franklin Floyd walked into principal
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James Davis's office at an elementary
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school in Oklahoma City he claimed to be
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the father of six-year-old Michael
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Hughes he came in he was acting rather
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nervous he said what I'm doing is very
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difficult he said I'm ready to die if
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you don't help me you won't live either
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Floyd pulled out a gun he threatened to
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kill principal James Davis if he didn't
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take Floyd to see Michael immediately
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Floyd followed the principal down this
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hallway to Michael's classroom he then
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forced them both into the principal's
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pickup truck Floyd ordered James to
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drive out to the country then when we
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got down here a ways he told me to to
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stop and he had me to get out of the
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truck and go into the woods he left
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Michael in in the truck and he followed
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me into the
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woods Floyd handcuffed James to a tree
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and left James was rescued several hours
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later but for the next 2 months there
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was no sign of either Franklin Floyd or
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Michael Hughes Floyd was finally
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arrested in Louisville Kentucky but
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Michael was nowhere to be found when
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authorities dug into Floyd's background
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they discovered a trail of pathological
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behavior that began long before
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Michael some 20 years earlier Floyd had
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settled in Oklahoma City using the name
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Trenton B Davis Floyd had a young girl
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and so he told everyone that she was his
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daughter Suzanne Floyd moved away 3
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years later and for the next decade took
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Suzanne from town to town often using an
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alias when Suzanne turned 17 she gave
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birth to Michael Floyd claimed to be the
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boy's father he then married Suzanne the
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girl he had been presenting
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as his daughter when Michael was two
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Suzanne was killed in a mysterious hit
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and run accident though he was never
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charged the prime suspect was none other
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than Franklin Floyd after Suzanne's
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death Floyd left Michael in foster care
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and disappeared Michael's foster parents
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remember him as a child with many
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difficulties he was not up to grade for
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his age he he was he didn't have muscle
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control like he should have uh he did
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not talk at all he was very hysterical
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he was delayed so severely that he was
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in an infant stem class and he tested
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out at 9 months Floyd was arrested on a
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parole violation 6 months after leaving
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Michael a routine blood test revealed
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that Floyd was not Michael's biological
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father I want to plead for the return of
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my son who I love with all my heart I've
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never harmed my son and the case has
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been reversed by the Supreme Court when
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Floyd got out of jail he asked that
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Michael be given back to him but his
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request was denied I don't need the stes
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money for these errors as 6 months later
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Floyd kidnapped Michael from his first
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grade classroom and Michael has not been
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seen sense we would like to have some
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information from the public indicating
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that this child has either has been seen
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out there or is out there somewhere or
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they may know something about him being
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assaulted or possibly murdered that's
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what our interest is but Floyd would not
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reveal Michael's location it's none of
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your damn business where he's at you
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don't have a right to love him care for
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him and cherish him cuz he ain't yours
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from the start the case of Michael
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Hughes has been full of disturbing
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twists and turns now there is one
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more authorities learn that Michael's
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mother Suzanne was not Floyd's
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biological daughter after all in fact
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she too may have been kidnapped by Floyd
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when she was a child that's one of the
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biggest mysteries that we have in this
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case as to who this girl is we have
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absolutely no idea we know that she is
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not the biological daughter of Mr Floyd
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and we feel that there's a very good
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possibility that this young girl may
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have been abducted or kidnapped when she
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was probably 3 four years of age and we
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would like to find out her true identity
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we don't know that I'm going to tell you
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right
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now I did her a
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favor she was abandoned to me and I
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raised her if I actually told you and
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you believed it or I could prove it to
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you you know what you do you try to pin
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a medal on me for taking
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her authorities were able to pin a
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murder charge on Franklin Floyd in a
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separate case the killing of a
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19-year-old named Cheryl keso Floyd was
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sentenced to death for that crime but
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the fate of Michael Yu remains a
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mystery nor have investigators been able
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to determine the real identity of the
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young woman known as Suzanne Davis
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update there are new developments in
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this case here's one of our staff with
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details when she was just shy of her
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21st birthday Suzanne was tragically
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struck and killed by a hit- and- run
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driver in Oklahoma City in
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1990 the investigation into her death
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revealed that her real name was Suzanne
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Maurice seus and that she had indeed
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been kidnapped by Franklin Floyd as a
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child the FBI reopened Michael's missing
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person case in
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2013 eventually Floyd told investigators
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what happened to Michael Hughes Floyd
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murdered the first grader on the very
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same day he had kidnapped him the case
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has now been closed by the
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FBI next a killer claiming to be a Good
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Samaritan targets unsuspecting female
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drivers stop
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it as children were taught never to get
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into a car with a stranger as adults we
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sometimes forget that lesson even though
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it's a lesson that might mean the
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difference between life and
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death Baltimore
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Maryland I'm going right to the mall
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I'll call you when I get there all right
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how you getting there 495 to 66 to 29
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straight to Charlottesville all right
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you got a full tank of gas I filled it
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last night good love you I love you
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early one spring morning Alysia shalter
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Reynolds said goodbye to her husband and
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left home it was a Saturday around 7:30
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a.m.
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byee Alicia planed to drive more than
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150 M to spend the day shopping with her
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mother in Charlottesville Virginia she
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left early giving herself plenty of time
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to be at the mall by 10:30
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alysia's mother arrived on time
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expecting her daughter at any moment but
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when Alicia was late s show Walter
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became worried right about 11:00 she
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wasn't there and I said this is not like
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Alisia I wonder what's going on but I
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made myself wait till
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11:15 and I then finally called her
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husband called Mark have you heard from
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Alicia no I've been waiting it's over a
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half hour
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at that point I said you know the
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weather is kind of bad this morning you
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know there was a little fog there was a
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little drizzle could have been some
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slick roads maybe she just slowed down a
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little bit or you know give her a little
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while and give me a call
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back s continued to wait an hour passed
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then two but Alicia never showed
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up at 6:00 that evening a Virginia state
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trooper found Alicia's car abandoned
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along a highway near cul pepper Virginia
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50 m from the shopping mall a white
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paper napkin had been tuck under the
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windshield wiper a commonly used signal
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for car trouble when the car was
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examined however there were no
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mechanical problems my gut reaction that
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immediately was that she was gone that
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somebody had abducted her and taken her
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I feared the worst but we were told by
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many many folks to hope for the best now
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we have an update on our top story
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tonight as we told you 25-year-old
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Alicia Reynolds disappeared this weekend
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her abandoned car was the next day the
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local news began broadcasting reports of
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Alicia's
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disappearance you didn't come through
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here Saturday morning no not until
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afternoon till okay thank you police set
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up a roadblock where Alicia's car was
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found hoping to track down people who
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may have seen something at least three
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people claimed they saw Alysia talking
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to a cleancut white man with a dark
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colored pickup truck and close to 20
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women called to say that they had
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recently been approached on the same
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Highway by a man fitting that exact
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description police began to realize that
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whatever had happened to Alysia might
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have been a nightmarish plot that had
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been evolving for weeks
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most of the witnesses talked about a man
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who would come up behind them or beside
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them in a dark small pickup truck
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flashing his headlights honking his horn
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looking in any way he could to attract
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their attention hey lady pull over
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there's something wrong with your car
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most of the women that did have some
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concern for their vehicle did manage to
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pull off to the side of the road he
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immediately jumps underneath the vehicle
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conducts an examination comes out and
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then engages them in a conversation a
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very polite conversation about the
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mechanical uh difficulties that he has
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allegedly
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uncovered at that point The Helpful
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stranger usually offered to drive the
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woman to the nearest phone this is it
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there's a phone right inside okay great
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at least two women accepted his offer
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and nothing happened to them bye other
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women found the stranger to be anything
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but kind and courteous
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some of the women would not pull over
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for him but merely went to the next exit
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or to their destination and had someone
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else look at their vehicle no no pull
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over lady your car the only instances
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where we have found that the individual
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became agitated were those instances
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where women either refused his
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Assistance or refused to pull over for
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him and in those instances there was a
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display of anger by him such as pounding
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his fist on a steering wheel or
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murmuring things under his
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breath looking at all of the stops I
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think we pretty much all agree that he
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was getting his courage up if you will
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he was practicing getting comfortable in
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what he was doing with stopping these
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ladies until he found someone that
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trusted him enough for him to carry
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forward what he intended to
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do one week before Alicia disappeared a
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woman driving in the neighboring County
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apparently fell for the same trick
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I didn't mean to scare you but there's
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something wrong with your car there's
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Sparks coming out of the back of your
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car so Sparks yes she said from the
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first moment she met him he was
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softspoken he seemed to be trustworthy
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she had no problem with it at all and uh
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she knew that she needed a ride home she
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didn't know how to get home so she she
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accepted the ride you know I really
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appreciate your taking me to the gas
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station I don't know what I would have
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done hey no problem glad to help out why
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are we slowing down I just can't see
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anything out of this windshield at Frost
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as they were going along the road he
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would slow down and make the excuse that
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he couldn't see because of the vehicles
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behind him and he pulled off the road he
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did this three times we beli that he was
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trying to establish a place to do
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something look if you could just take me
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to a phone I can just make a phone call
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get stop it what are you doing she
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became very frightened she fought him
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and he decided he didn't want to fight
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with her so he pushed her away get out
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of here
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the woman broke her ankle but she got
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away 7 Days Later Alicia Reynolds was
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not so
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lucky 2 months after that her body was
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found in a wooded area 15 Mi southeast
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of C pepper she had been murdered
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perhaps on the same day that she had
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disappeared I don't want it to happen to
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somebody else
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that's really my main concern for the
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capture of the guy I don't want to hear
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about another husband who lost his wife
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or another father and mother who lost
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their daughter
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um that's that's too much there is a
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likelihood that the individual has fled
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this area possibly the state and may be
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in another Community now where he may be
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preparing to start the same type of
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behavior again authorities were able to
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create this composite of the suspect he
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is 5' 10 in to 6t tall with a medium
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build his hair is reddish brown and he
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tends to brush it back frequently with
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his left hand he sometimes uses the name
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Larry
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Breeden if you have any information
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about this man or the murder of Alicia
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Showalter Reynolds please log on to our
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website at unsolved.com
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coming up the body of a missing teenager
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is left where it can be easily
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discovered but who put the corpse in
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place and what do they know about the
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team's mysterious
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death Newberg Heights
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Ohio one fall day three young boys make
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a frightening Discovery come
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here wow is it a dummy other than some
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scratches and bruises the body shows no
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obvious sign of Injury One tennis shoe
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is found in a nearby pile of rocks the
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other shoe is missing think it's real
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let's get out of here several hours
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later the body is identified as
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17-year-old Kurt Sova an autopsy
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revealed that he died no more than a day
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and a half before his body was found yet
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his parents reported him missing 5 days
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earlier so where was Kurt Silva during
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those 5 days that he was missing how did
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he die and where was he killed for
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Kurt's parents these lingering questions
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make his tragic death even more
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painful Kurt lived with his parents in
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this quiet neighborhood he was the
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youngest of four boys and the closest to
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his parents he never had any trouble
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with the neighbors I never had any
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trouble with him in school I never had
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any trouble with him with the police
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that's why I can't understand what
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happened Kurt left home for the last
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time late on a Friday afternoon one
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block from his house he met up with a
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friend how you doing hey nothing much
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how about you hey party tonight yeah
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where at Su house
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did tonight it was not like him to be
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gone overnight it was not like him to
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stay out after 10 10:30 11:00 the latest
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and that was only when we knew where he
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was this night he just never came
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home when Kurt wasn't home by Saturday
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morning his parents began calling his
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friends Kurt's father Ken searched for
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him around the neighborhood there was no
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sign of Kurt Sova
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on Sunday the sovas registered Kurt as a
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missing person with the police meanwhile
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his mother Dorothy covered the
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neighborhood with missing person's
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Flyers we searched The Ravines searched
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the schoolyards I even went so far as to
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search dumpsters looking for him on
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Sunday afternoon Dorothy learned that
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Kurt had been at a party on Friday night
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at a duplex less than 2 mil from where
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the SAS lived the party was given by a
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girl named Susan yeah are you Susan no
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Susan isn't here right now when I went
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there the girl who had the party was not
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there it was another girl could you
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possibly have Susan call me when she
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gets home tell her it's real
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important when the girl returned home
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she called me and she said she never saw
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my son and she had no
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party but a pizza delivery man
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contradicted Susan he stated that there
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had been a party at the duplex on Friday
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night Dorothy contacted Susan again and
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this time she admitted that Kurt had
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been there Susan also said that more
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than a dozen people had stopped by some
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of them were older than Kurt and most of
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them were people he had never met Susan
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also told Dorothy that Kurt had been
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drinking heavily those who knew him say
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that Kurt was not much of a drinker
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come on the fell that Kurt went to the
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party with told us that Kurt had become
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ill he took him outside for some air and
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because it was a chilly night he said he
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went upstairs to get Kurt's jacket and
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he left him hanging on the
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fence he said he went up to get his
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jacket and came back down and Kurt was
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gone Kurt that's when I think I became
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hysterical I thought my God something to
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happen to him at that party or in
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between the party and home only I didn't
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in my wildest dreams expect him to turn
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up
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Deb 5 days after the party Kurt's body
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was found in a ravine just 500 yd from
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Susan's duplex we have a young male
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probably about 16 or 17 he looks like
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it's our belief that his body was dumped
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out there and whoever the person or
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persons were knew the the area and they
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knew that people go back there and kids
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play back there So eventually within a
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certain amount of time that he would be
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found the police searched the area for
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Clues they found Kurt's left shoe wedged
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in some nearby rocks but they never
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found his right
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shoe Kurt's body was taken to the
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coroner's office for an autopsy it was
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determined that he had died only 24 to
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30 6 hours before his body was found
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which meant that he had been alive for
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at least 3 days after he left the party
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however the coroner could not determine
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the exact cause of death the manner of
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death in this particular case was signed
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out as probable accidental he hadn't
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been beaten in any way he hadn't been
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traumatized in any way he didn't have
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enough alcohol to end his life he had no
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pre-existing natural disease and as
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Sherlock Holmes said you eliminate all
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other possibilities and that which
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remains is the truth this was a
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diagnosis by
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exclusion I didn't believe that they
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couldn't tell me how Kurt died which is
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inmaterial to me what they put on that
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piece of paper for my peace of mind I
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want to know what happened to my
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boy Dorothy began to piece together a
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series of strange events that occurred
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during the 5 days her son was
00:22:53
missing a friend of kurts named David
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trusnik claimed that he saw Kurt 3 days
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after he
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disappeared Kurt and another boy were
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walking along a busy street less than a
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mile from the S
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home I pulled over to offer Kurt a ride
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at this point A van pulled up and Kurt
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yelled out Franco they both ran over to
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the van and they got in the
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van I didn't know Kurt was missing if I
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would have knew he was missing there
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would probably been something I could
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have done I could have followed the van
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but I didn't know and
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two days later he was found dead so that
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was the last time I seen
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him that same day a stranger who had
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been seen around the sova's neighborhood
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noticed Kurt's missing poster in the
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window of a local record
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star there you go thank you okay see you
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later all right
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bye-bye can I help you with something
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see that picture of that boy over there
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yeah what about it h you might as well
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take it down going to find him dead in 2
00:24:01
days no he's going to know why he
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died the manager was skeptical however
00:24:09
she soon had a reason to be afraid the
00:24:13
next day before the Record Shop had open
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he left flowers in a note and the note
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said roses are red sky is blue they
00:24:22
found him dead and they'll find you
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too police briefly questioned the a man
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who seemed to be mentally unstable but
00:24:31
there was no evidence he'd committed a
00:24:33
crime and he was released by the time
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Kurt was found dead the man had
00:24:39
disappeared but there would be another
00:24:42
lead on the very day Kurt's body was
00:24:44
found Dorothy got an early morning phone
00:24:47
call from Susan the woman who had the
00:24:50
party she told me that someone was
00:24:52
sleeping in her basement and perhaps it
00:24:55
was Kurt and I thought why are you
00:24:57
calling me now after lying to me so many
00:25:00
times I didn't know whether to believe
00:25:02
her or not believe
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her I proceeded to go over the house
00:25:06
there and I went down to the basement
00:25:09
and I thought maybe he was sick or he
00:25:13
was hurt and I figured if I got down
00:25:15
there and found them then maybe I can do
00:25:18
something for him there I found a cot
00:25:22
that it looked like somebody had slept
00:25:24
in there but after searching the whole
00:25:26
basement I didn't find any anybody in
00:25:29
there I have no idea if it was Kurt or
00:25:32
not all I know is somebody did sleep in
00:25:34
that c that night and when I got there
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they were
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gone I think Kurt was there I think he
00:25:42
was already dead in that
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c but I think they panicked and got rid
00:25:48
of his body in that
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Ravine Dorothy and Ken are certain of
00:25:53
one thing 24 hours before his body was
00:25:57
found Kurt was not in the Ravine Ken had
00:26:01
already carefully searched there and
00:26:04
found nothing I knew it wasn't there the
00:26:07
day that I was searching so they must
00:26:09
have dumped it off that evening I looked
00:26:12
around and I'm sure that if Kurt was
00:26:14
down there I would have noticed that
00:26:15
bright yellow t-shirt that he had on
00:26:18
against any of Terin 3 months after Kurt
00:26:21
died the mystery of his death
00:26:24
intensified the body of Eugene cavette a
00:26:27
boy Kurt used to know was found in
00:26:29
another Ravine on the same street just 2
00:26:32
and 1/2 miles from where Kurt's body was
00:26:35
discovered both boys have been missing
00:26:38
for a few days before they died and
00:26:40
Eugene's right shoe was also never found
00:26:45
the mysterious death of Kurt and Eugene
00:26:47
leave a trail of disturbing questions
00:26:50
and years later Dorothy and Ken are
00:26:53
still searching for answers we still
00:26:56
don't know any more than the day we went
00:26:58
out out looking for him but I believe
00:27:00
that somebody out there knows exactly
00:27:03
what happened to Kurt and they're just
00:27:05
being quiet about it I don't think I
00:27:08
will ever come to peace with myself
00:27:12
until I find my
00:27:13
answers and if I don't find out through
00:27:16
this program I'll keep on searching I'll
00:27:19
search to the day I'm buried
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myself this case is still open and
00:27:26
classified as a probable accident new
00:27:30
investigators assigned to the case are
00:27:32
hopeful they can determine how Kurt died
00:27:36
if you know anything about the death of
00:27:38
Kurt Sova or Eugene cavette please log
00:27:41
on to our website at
00:27:43
unsolved.com
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coming up two men kidnap a woman from a
00:27:53
car wash they don't realize there were
00:27:57
witnesses to their air
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crime Oklahoma City
00:28:11
Oklahoma recently we told you the story
00:28:14
of Meredith Atkinson who was looking for
00:28:16
her birth mother Rosemarie
00:28:19
lutmer in 1938 Rosemary found herself
00:28:23
pregnant and unmarried she looked for
00:28:26
help at a local shelter for unwed
00:28:28
mothers in Oklahoma City it was there
00:28:31
that Meredith was born Meredith I'd like
00:28:34
for you to keep in mind that with
00:28:35
adoption confidential 53 years later
00:28:38
Meredith returned to search for clues
00:28:40
about her past I found out that my
00:28:43
mother had uh one sister and four
00:28:47
brothers they were field workers I would
00:28:50
like to be able to look at her and tell
00:28:54
her mother I understand after watching
00:28:58
our program a private investigator named
00:29:01
Glenda Allen contacted Meredith and
00:29:04
volunteered to help with her
00:29:06
search just 1 month later Merith and her
00:29:09
two children traveled from Arizona to
00:29:11
Oklahoma after Meredith's mother
00:29:14
78-year-old Rosemary lutner was
00:29:19
found hi there Walter Walter glad to
00:29:22
know you Walter Mer's Uncle Walter
00:29:26
rosemarie's brother answered the door
00:29:29
and I at this is this
00:29:32
Rose hi Rose I think that finding my
00:29:36
mother and seeing her and her family has
00:29:39
brought closure to my life you know
00:29:42
Maran
00:29:44
yeah I needed
00:29:47
this you even you were even a great
00:29:49
grandma do you know that
00:29:52
sure I'm just tickled to death she's
00:29:55
here yeah I just wish we was closer
00:29:57
together we could visit visit more often
00:29:59
you know but I plan to go through there
00:30:00
and visit her in Arizona when I go to
00:30:03
see my
00:30:05
brothers it's like gaining a new family
00:30:08
and it's like gaining new friends too
00:30:11
you care care if I call you
00:30:14
mother no
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no most of us can never imagine that we
00:30:24
will hear a scream in the night and find
00:30:26
ourselves involved in a criminal
00:30:29
investigation and yet that's exactly
00:30:31
what happened to three young men one
00:30:32
night in Austin
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Texas at 8:55 p.m. Steve Marx was on his
00:30:42
way to meet his two brothers-in-law at a
00:30:44
friend's house less than a block away he
00:30:47
pulled behind a beige car which was
00:30:50
moving very slowly I followed it down
00:30:54
the street and I pulled in front of my
00:30:56
friend's house
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the car in the meantime had pulled up
00:31:01
into the parking garage ahead of my
00:31:03
friend's house and my brother-in-laws
00:31:06
arrived about a minute
00:31:10
later Mike and Bill goens had seen the
00:31:13
same car just two blocks from the house
00:31:16
going the wrong way on a oneway street
00:31:20
and when they stopped and we stopped
00:31:22
they looked at us like what do we do
00:31:23
next and we looked at them like okay you
00:31:26
fools get out of the way
00:31:28
and that gave us an opportunity to see
00:31:30
them but unfortunately there was no
00:31:33
reason for us to try to memorize their
00:31:35
faces or anything there was just two
00:31:36
people passing in the
00:31:39
night 5 minutes later Mike and Bill met
00:31:43
up with Steve the house was just 200 ft
00:31:46
from a 24hour do it yourself car wash
00:31:50
about going out to e go over to my house
00:31:52
for some spaghetti
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when we were on the porch all we could
00:31:59
see was the side of the car wash so when
00:32:02
we heard the scream and the car door or
00:32:05
trunk slam all we saw was the car pull
00:32:10
out as we saw the car pull out the wrong
00:32:14
way on Fifth Street I realized that that
00:32:16
was the same car that I had pulled
00:32:19
behind on pal Street and that had made
00:32:22
the U-turn in the parking garage
00:32:29
a few seconds later Steve and Bill got
00:32:31
to the car wash and noticed it was
00:32:34
unusually deserted we walked up to the
00:32:37
car we saw a purse the keys and then
00:32:42
Bill suggested I go back to the house
00:32:45
and call the police cuz we figured
00:32:47
something was
00:32:48
wrong the owner of the abandoned car was
00:32:51
identified as 28-year-old Colleen Reed a
00:32:55
certified public accountant who had
00:32:58
lived in Austin for 4 years police
00:33:01
traced Colleen's movements on the day of
00:33:03
the crime she had started her day by
00:33:05
going to church and doing some volunteer
00:33:08
work next she stopped by the bank and
00:33:11
the market she didn't arrive at the car
00:33:13
wash until 9:10 p.m. and that's when
00:33:17
Colleen was kidnapped by two men in the
00:33:20
tan colored car
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I'm almost convinced myself that we will
00:33:37
someday see her again that she's being
00:33:39
held somewhere and the reality is that's
00:33:41
probably not true
00:33:43
but there is a
00:33:47
possibility
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update the investigation LED police to
00:33:52
Alva Hank warley and Kenneth McDuff
00:33:56
warley admitted his involvement in
00:33:58
Colleen's abduction and pleaded guilty
00:34:00
to a charge of aggravated sexual assault
00:34:03
he was sentenced to 40 years in prison
00:34:07
however warley insisted he did not kill
00:34:10
Colleen Reed Kenneth McDuff was
00:34:13
eventually convicted of murdering
00:34:14
Colleen and was sentenced to death
00:34:18
finally one month before his execution
00:34:21
McDuff LED police to the remains of
00:34:24
Colleen Reed at long last Colleen family
00:34:29
could lay her to
00:34:33
rest next two mothers believe their
00:34:36
children have spoken with them from
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Beyond the
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Grave fairborne
00:34:54
Ohio at the age of 34 Michael was a
00:34:58
recovering alcoholic his mother Dona was
00:35:01
grateful he was attending AA meetings
00:35:04
and holding down a steady job but after
00:35:08
6 months of Being Sober Michael fell off
00:35:11
the wagon and ran into a park truck
00:35:14
going 65 M
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hour he basically died instantly it's
00:35:23
like a part of you gone and it's like
00:35:27
there's a big hole in your
00:35:29
heart it was just 2 months later in a
00:35:32
gift shop that Donna believed she felt
00:35:34
Michael's presence in the middle was a
00:35:37
huge rack of the little porcelain cups
00:35:40
that have your names on them from A to Z
00:35:43
setting off to one side wor two cups and
00:35:45
one said I love you Mom and the other
00:35:47
one said Michael and I felt like Michael
00:35:52
was there with me and he was telling me
00:35:54
it was
00:35:56
okay Weeks Later while in a market
00:35:59
another incident Donna was surprised
00:36:02
when she found an Out ofpl book that
00:36:04
seemed destined for her and I thought
00:36:07
this strange this book why is it sitting
00:36:10
here and there was no writing on the
00:36:12
cover and I opened it
00:36:17
up I am the Ancient Mariner who had a
00:36:20
tale in his heart to be told to all to
00:36:23
someone I am always saying someday you
00:36:26
must meet my mother
00:36:29
it mentioned the Ancient Mariner and
00:36:32
Michael used to refer to himself as the
00:36:34
Ancient
00:36:35
Mariner I started crying when I read it
00:36:39
Donna says the most dramatic
00:36:41
Communications involve both the time of
00:36:43
Michael's accident 620 and the time of
00:36:47
his death
00:36:48
633 while working at home Donna claims
00:36:51
her digital clock was flashing 620 even
00:36:55
though that wasn't the real real time
00:36:58
that was the time of the accident and
00:37:00
all the other digital clocks in the
00:37:02
house were fine he was just letting me
00:37:04
know that he was there Donna says that
00:37:07
14 months after Michael's death she
00:37:10
heard his voice on her answering machine
00:37:14
the message was recorded at
00:37:17
6:33 it was only two words follow me
00:37:21
Saturday 6:33
00:37:24
p.m. end of message
00:37:28
and I was
00:37:30
dumbfounded I had his friends come over
00:37:32
and listen to it his sisters listen to
00:37:36
it and it is Michael's voice Donna is
00:37:40
convinced that the messages from Michael
00:37:42
are meant to bring her Comfort but
00:37:44
others have a different explanation
00:37:48
there's no greater loss than the loss of
00:37:50
a child emotionally um driven people in
00:37:54
a state of grief tend to to see things
00:37:58
in their
00:37:59
environment that connect them to their
00:38:02
lost loved ones Donna's experience is
00:38:05
not an isolated incident there have been
00:38:08
other similar
00:38:10
stories Sharon troop believes that her
00:38:12
daughter Wendy has appeared to her
00:38:15
several times Wendy was a freshman in
00:38:18
college when she was the victim of a
00:38:20
date rape shortly after she became
00:38:23
depressed and committed suicide Wendy
00:38:26
was only 19 years old her mother was
00:38:29
devastated and spent the days after her
00:38:32
daughter's death in an emotional Fog she
00:38:36
says it was then that Wendy paid her a
00:38:39
visit I was looking down a hallway and
00:38:42
it was very bright and she looked at me
00:38:46
as if to say I am so
00:38:48
sorry I made the hugest
00:38:51
mistake and I can't take it back and she
00:38:55
turned around and she walked through the
00:38:57
door door and that was it she was
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gone a few months later Sharon
00:39:06
experienced a second
00:39:08
sighting a friend of Wendy's named Owen
00:39:11
rented a movie to try to lift Sharon in
00:39:13
her husband Bill's Spirits something
00:39:16
caught my eye looked over by the door
00:39:18
and Wendy was standing there she was
00:39:20
dressed in a real comfortable girl type
00:39:23
flannel shirt and she smiled at me and
00:39:26
she looked over at all
00:39:28
one and then she was
00:39:30
gone this time I didn't cry so I
00:39:33
honestly felt that she was letting me
00:39:35
know that she was so pleased that Owen
00:39:38
was spending time with us and we were
00:39:40
together so that we could help one
00:39:42
another it was the following Christmas
00:39:45
that Sharon received what she calls
00:39:47
definitive proof that Wendy is still
00:39:50
with her doing okay I just really miss
00:39:53
her I know sweetie we all do we all miss
00:39:56
her so much at a holiday party across
00:39:58
the street from their home Sharon and
00:40:01
Bill were visiting with friends but then
00:40:03
Sharon became upset and went home are
00:40:06
you sure I'm fine I'm fine I wasn't home
00:40:09
about 10 minutes and Bill called me from
00:40:12
across the street and he said I have
00:40:14
something to tell you and it's really
00:40:16
important and I want you to stay up when
00:40:19
Bill returned home he told Sharon that a
00:40:21
friend of their neighbor claimed to have
00:40:24
had an unusual experience involving
00:40:26
Wendy just weeks after she died she saw
00:40:31
Wendy she just saw her face and there
00:40:35
weren't any words but she was absolutely
00:40:39
positive that it was
00:40:42
windy it was probably about a month
00:40:45
after Wendy had
00:40:48
died I saw a girl and it was kind of
00:40:51
just a head shot it just kind of zoomed
00:40:53
in on me and I felt this tremendous
00:40:56
energy it kind of like if you've ever
00:40:58
been shocked by Electrical Fence you
00:41:01
know the little warm surge of current
00:41:04
that you feel through your body but I
00:41:05
could just sense that she wanted to tell
00:41:07
her parents that she was okay now and
00:41:10
she was finally at
00:41:13
peace she saw her I think it was a gift
00:41:16
from God so to let her come back for us
00:41:19
to see because somebody could tell you
00:41:22
that you wouldn't believe
00:41:24
him seeing something is totally
00:41:26
different
00:41:28
the real question is is there actually
00:41:31
an afterlife that people who die go to
00:41:35
and that they're actually not gone and
00:41:37
if we're going to look at this question
00:41:39
objectively and scientifically and not
00:41:41
emotionally then we have to answer
00:41:44
nobody knows Sharon and Donna will
00:41:48
continue to find comfort in the messages
00:41:50
they believe are left for them by their
00:41:54
children some people say to me do you
00:41:56
believe in the after your life do you
00:41:57
believe that there's something Beyond
00:41:59
yes I do if you choose not to believe
00:42:02
that that is your privilege me I'm going
00:42:06
to believe it
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