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Unsolved Mysteries with Dennis Farina - Season 4, Episode 22

March 09, 2017 / 42:44

This episode of Unsolved Mysteries covers unexplained phenomena, disappearances, and cult-related crimes. Key cases include a UFO sighting in England, the disappearance of Christy Krebs, and Julie Cooper's escape from a cult.

In England, Airman John Burrows and his partner witness strange lights in the forest near the Woodbridge Air Force Base. Their report leads to one of the most documented UFO sightings in history, with Colonel Charles Halt also investigating the phenomenon.

In California, 22-year-old Christy Krebs disappears after her car is found burned and abandoned. Her parents recount her struggles with mental health and previous traumatic incidents, while multiple sightings of her are reported across the country.

Julie Cooper, a young woman from Missouri, escapes from the DeCloud family cult after enduring years of abuse. She contacts a man named Tim for help, leading to her eventual rescue and the arrest of cult leader Nelson DeCloud.

The episode concludes with the unsolved murder of 16-year-old Hyam Weiss at a yeshiva in Long Island, New York, where police face silence from the community and struggle to find leads.

TL;DR

This episode features UFO sightings, a woman's disappearance, and a cult escape story.

Episode

42:44
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next on Unsolved
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Mysteries at a military base in England
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two Airmen discover strange lights in
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the forest and then more bizar lights
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and weird events that cannot be
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explained in California a car catches
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fire on a remote Highway a young woman
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barely escapes with her life only to
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disappear
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in Missouri a teenage girl claims that a
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cult leader was forcing her to have sex
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with him and now he's a
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fugitive and police are summoned to a
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small school on Long Island a
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16-year-old has been murdered but
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religious Traditions require his friends
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and teachers to keep
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silent join us these cases have twists
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and turns that you will hardly believe
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I'm Dennis finina and this is Unsolved
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Mysteries
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[Music]
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rle sham Forest England home to
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America's Woodridge Air Force base
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airman FirstClass John Burrows and his
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partner were on routine Patrol along the
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base perimeter in moments it would
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become anything but routine hey what the
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hell's that
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of jeez I don't
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know hell is it I don't know I've never
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seen anything like it before it was
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about 2 a.m. the base was nearly empty
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come on let's go back to this Guard
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Station call the hard see what he wants
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to do all
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right there was definitely something out
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in the
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woods seemed like to me like a massive
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light show I was nervous he was nervous
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we didn't know what to expect and we
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decided at that point in time we better
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get back and let somebody know what's
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going on in case something de happened
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burls quickly notified his immediate
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Superior yeah we got some kind of weird
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activ in the woods off the base hey
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[Music]
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John yeah sure I can see him from here
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it's still going on yeah look it's some
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kind of weird lights in the trees I
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don't know they're moving all up and
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down in minutes another security patrol
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arrived they had also seen the strange
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lights you want spr man to go down off
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base you coming with us
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nope all right look we'll stay in radio
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contact Burrows and the second security
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team went off base to investigate off
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base leave your weapons they were
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ordered to leave their weapons behind
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because they were moving out of American
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[Music]
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jurisdiction we didn't know what we were
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getting
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into we started in on foot towards the
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lights at the same time we could hear
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the animals were very upset you could
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hear a lot of
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ruckus coming around us at that point we
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got a radio transmission they had just
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gotten contact from Heath Tower in
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London that an object had been seen over
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our base and it had disappeared on radar
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is that in I can't tell all of a sudden
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in the clearing there was an
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object it had a bank of blue lights on
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it and it was sitting there like
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strobing it was
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unbelievable we all hit the ground and
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then it went up into the
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trees when it was happening everything
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seemed to go slower we seem to be in
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like a I wouldn't say a Time Warp but
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like everything appeared to be happen
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slower to us and everything felt
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different but when it was all when it
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disappeared it was like everything was
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normal again the perception of the
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ground the um the air the sky the stars
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the whole nine yards were different
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where it go for more than 2 hours the
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three men played a game of cat and mouse
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with a mysterious craft
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it was off the ground in the Horizon
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above the trees and it always stayed out
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in the distance in Horizon it sometimes
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it appeared to get closer and we were
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going to get close to it again and then
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we never
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did when Sergeant Burrows and his men
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filed their report they assumed that no
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one would believe their account and yet
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the events of that night resulted in one
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of the most well-documented sightings of
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a UFO in history at our request the
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military personnel who actually
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witnessed the incident
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appeared on camera for the very first
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time spit it out what did you see the
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next morning Sergeant Burl nervously
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reported the sighting to his shift
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Commander we saw some lights sir red
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ones some white
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ones and well sir they um flew up into
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the trees he basically said gentlemen
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you saw something he thr Tower confirms
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that you saw something and um now let's
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go out into the area and see if we can
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find any physical proof of what happened
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I was when I got out there that
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basically I would see nothing there
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would be no Telltale evidence that
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possibly something happened that would
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make it easier for me because if there's
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nothing proving that something happened
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to me you can just kind of check it off
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but when you get out there and you find
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damage to the trees depressions in the
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ground and stuff that makes it even more
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unexplainable we came up through the
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woods to this point right about here I
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see we saw it hovering later that same
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day Burrows and a British police officer
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explored the site where Burrows saw the
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the strange object we were watching it
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for about 20 minutes see this there were
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circular impressions in the earth
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directly below the spot where the craft
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appeared to
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hover and stay over here was more of a
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mystery now because when I first saw it
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I didn't perceive it as something
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sitting on the ground with tripod like a
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tripod type thing now all of a sudden
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there's physical proof showing is
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something sat down in that area 3.4 M
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the British police officer dismissed the
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circles as the marks of animals who had
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been digging there but he did order his
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men to measure the distance between the
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circles here too they were exactly the
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same distance apart and formed a perfect
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equilateral
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triangle rumors of the UFO sighting had
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spread like wildfire later that morning
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Colonel Charles halt Deputy base
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commander arrived at Woodbridge security
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headquarters UFOs what are you talking
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about I saw something I was very
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skeptical I find what had allegedly
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taken place hard to believe and I was
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really going to debunk it quite frankly
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and as events unfolded I became more and
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more concerned that there may be
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something to this I kept telling myself
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that there had to be some type of an
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explanation for it but I certainly
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couldn't find one and even to this day I
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I can't explain what happened straight
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back straight back that evening unusual
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lights were once again spotted in the
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forest this time the base commander
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ordered large flood lights devices
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commonly known as light alls to be set
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up in the
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woods all right move it out at 9:30 p.m.
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Colonel halt received word that the
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lights had mysteriously stopped working
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I don't know sir craziest damn things
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I've ever seen animals in the forest are
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acting weird Starlight Scopes going bad
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and radios ain't working and light alls
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ain't coming up let's get out there and
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see what we got all right sir this is
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Colonel halt to command we're going
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out base security was immedi mediately
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ordered to set up more flood lights
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Colonel halt put together a special
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investigative team I called the on duty
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or stand by a man in disaster
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preparedness and had him get his camera
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he was professional photographer and
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calibrate several radiac instruments to
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Take Along we were going to go debunk
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this by the time Colonel halt arrived at
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the site the second set of Lights had
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also stopped working what's going on
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Sergeant Colonel we're having a little
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problems with the light Vehicles weren't
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working properly and radio Transmissions
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were limited at best Lieutenant where'
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you see that light it was right through
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there sir armed with a Geer counter a
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Starlight scope to enhance night vision
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and a tape recorder to record his first
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impressions Colonel halt LED his team
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into the
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woods what he found stopped him in his
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tracks next one of the most amazing
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encounters with UFOs ever document
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minute
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continues radio breaking out Colonel
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Charles Halt and his men were patrolling
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the forest around Woodbridge Air Force
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Base in Southeastern England in search
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of a mysterious craft some belied it was
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a
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UFO follow
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me suddenly a strange glowing object
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appeared
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strangest thing I've ever seen sir as
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the object began to move away Colonel
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Halt and his men
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followed as we were pursuing this
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glowing object through the woods we
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noticed a farmhous directly in front of
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us we've got a reading of two on the
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counter that's much higher than
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background
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radiation The Farmhouse appeared to be
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glowing very brightly as though it were
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on fire you reckon there's somebody in
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there sir I don't know
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Lieutenant the object then broke into
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five white objects and
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disappeared let's
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go and there was a very strange feeling
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in the air it made your hair bristle
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sort of like static electricity you just
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had a very unusual feeling and I don't
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think it was all psychological I think
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there was something physiological about
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it multiple sightings of up to three
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objects of a similar character but I
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think there was some type of guiding
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force behind these
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objects whether it was trying to
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communicate with us whether it was
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trying to warn us or whether it was
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trying to do something to us I don't
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know to me it looked like a grid
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search like they were boxing off an area
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and looking for
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something and that was the thought that
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hit me right away and I stayed with me
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over the years it looked like a search
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pattern there's definitely something up
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there hey we've got an object we could
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very clearly see it s of danced theot in
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the sky and it sent down beams of
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light I noticed other beams of light
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coming down from the same object
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following different places on the
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base my boss was standing in his front
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yard at Woodbridge and he could see the
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beams of light falling down and the
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people in the weapon storage area and
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several places on the base also reported
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the lights I woke up about 3:34 in the
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morning and for whatever reason I felt
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like maybe something happening and I
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don't know why I just woke up and felt
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like something that came back don't ask
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me why it just was a gut feeling so I
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went ahead and got up and went up to the
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base all of a sudden a couple of like
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blue transparent type lights appeared in
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the sky they were all of a sudden in the
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Horizon and one of them broke towards us
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Mike you okay back the only time the
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light offs were working as far as came
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on and off when I saw them were when the
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light passed them and I have no idea
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what caused light off to come on and off
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other than the fact that the blue light
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as it passed it the light all came
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on at about the same time just 300 yd
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away Colonel Hal's team also had a
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remarkable close encounter
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hey here here the object was coming at
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us at a very high rate of
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speed one of these beams of light fell
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very very close to us sort of a pencil
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beam of light from the object to the
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ground near our feet but this is
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unreal the visitor never
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returned I drafted a memo sent a copy to
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London and it was swallowed
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up it became very quiet
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this is a copy of Hal's memo it was
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submitted to British military
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authorities who never acted on it the
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United States Air Force would not
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acknowledge the episode either but then
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a private citizen used the Freedom of
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Information Act to obtain halts memo not
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everybody was
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convinced James Mah is a noted UFO
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skeptic and director of two private
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observatories a burden of proof for for
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any event that is extraordinary is upon
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those making the claim not upon those
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who uh look at it from a skeptical
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perspective where is the evidence show
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me the evidence and that's what science
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is all
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about on the first night at about 3:00
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that morning a bright Fireball which is
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a very bright
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meteor came into the Earth's atmosphere
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and this is unquestionably what John
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buroughs saw that
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night I've seen meteor showers come down
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before it you know it wasn't a meteor
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falling out of the sky and it went up
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not down meteors fall from the sky they
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don't go back up into the sky meteor is
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not going to go up go back and forth and
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maintain position in the sky for a long
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period of time meteor is not going to
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send beams of light down I think both of
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them are being honest as to what their
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perceptions are but human perception is
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very very uh easily fooled and I think
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when they went out there to the woods
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everybody was out there expecting to see
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a
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UFO with that preconceived notion the
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way you view things can be greatly
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influenced there's definitely something
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up there m believes that the glowing red
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light that Colonel halt saw that night
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was simply a reflection from the
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revolving beam of a nearby Lighthouse it
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appears to be heading north if it were a
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just a reflection how does one explain
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two different sightings and two
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different places in the sky how does one
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explain the object moving through the
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forest how does one explain the sighting
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in the forest by the three Airmen
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there's just too many
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things I have a lot of unresolved
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questions I'm not sure I'll ever have
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answered I've had people suggest all
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sorts of things everything from I've
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seen the second coming of Christ to the
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devil's after us I can't explain it I
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really can't I know it was beyond the
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realm of anything that we experience in
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ordinary life
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around the same time two other
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unconfirmed sightings were reported in
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the vicinity of Woodridge Airbase at
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least 15 men all of them US Air Force
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personnel witnessed the strange lights
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and objects firsthand the Air Force
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continues to have no official comment on
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the entire series of
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events Colonel Charles halt has retired
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from the Air Force he spends much of his
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time discussing his unusual encounter he
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hopes that the US government will begin
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to take UFO sightings more
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seriously and maybe one day it
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will next a young woman disappears she
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may be hitchhiking around the country
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lost and alone
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[Music]
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in a remote corner of the park a car is
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found stuck in the mud the radio has
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been ripped out there are small traces
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of Blood on the dashboard and the front
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seat along with shredded identification
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papers a few torn up photographs are
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scattered
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nearby it looked like Foul Play but was
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it the photos the papers and the car
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were all traced to 22-year-old Christy
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Krebs she had worked as a chef just
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seven miles from where her car was found
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for christe's parents the scene was all
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too
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familiar when Christy graduated from
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high school she went to work full-time
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in a local restaurant she was cheerful
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and upbeat but she also became
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infatuated and then obsessed with a
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married
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man then one day 3 years before her
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disappearance christe apparently began
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to fantasize about marrying this same
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man she drove around for hours and lost
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her way on a country road her car became
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hopelessly stuck in the
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mud I have to get out of
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[Music]
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here when the car was found it looked
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like this the interior had been totally
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destroyed by flames and Christy was
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nowhere to be seen the fire apparently
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sent Christie into a traumatic mental
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breakdown the morning after the incident
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railroad workers saw a dazed and
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disoriented young woman wandering along
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the tracks one of the men recognized
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Christie and called her
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parents initially we thought things were
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okay but as we were driving M back into
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town the behavior we were getting from
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her was very bizarre uh chanting and and
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patting her doing very weird things and
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I just looked at my wife and said we're
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not going home we're going to the
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hospital we wondered if she was ever
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going to be the same again at first they
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thought that she might have been on
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drugs but they were able to test her and
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see that there were no drugs in her
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system
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hello hi Christie over the next few
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months Christie was in and out of the
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hospital and was eventually diagnosed
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having had a psychotic trauma related
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break why are you doing that my car I'm
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my keys your car is okay it's all right
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your car's okay you need to get some
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rest after therapy and drug treatment
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christe made rapid progress and after 6
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months things were looking up Christy
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was released from the hospital hospital
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and her therapists recommended that she
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go back to work but only part-time I
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think it was suggested she worked 20
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hours a week to start with and she did
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incredibly well and she was very proud
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of herself and she got herself a second
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job at a local fast food
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restaurant
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20 eventually Christy began working 10
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to 12 hours a day three years went by
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Christy's parents worried about her
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manic pace yet Christy insisted that she
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was okay right up until the night she
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disappeared that night Christy left work
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in High Spirits but she didn't go
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straight home Christy drove around until
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at some point she veered onto a dirt
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road she ended up here just 7 miles from
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the spot where the car fire had occurred
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once again stuck in the mud
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[Applause]
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I think that she probably had flashbacks
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it was like reliving that Nightmare and
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all of that I think just overloaded all
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the
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circuits christe's father believes that
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his daughter suffered another psychotic
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break in my mind the last thing she did
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she went through her wallet in in total
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frustration whether she's looking at
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pictures of family and friends she
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ripped them all up she ripped them up
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and Scattered them around whether she
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was destroying her past and and trying
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to get away from it you know I really
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don't know I know that my daughter went
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through a really tough time out there
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for 2 or 3
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hours the authorities think that before
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she abandoned her car christe changed
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into a gym outfit that she always
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carried with her her work clothes were
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found sopping wet and neatly folded on
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the back
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seat the next morning a full scale
00:21:25
search was launched but there was no
00:21:28
trace of Christie however over the next
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few months several sightings were
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reported in Texas then in Salt Lake City
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and finally a year later in
00:21:41
California just outside the farming town
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of viia California an off-duty Highway
00:21:47
worker named Mike case picked up a
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hitchhiker who looked like Christie it
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was 300 M south of the spot where
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Christy's car was abandoned it seemed to
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me that she didn't have it all there at
00:22:00
first I thought possibly she was on some
00:22:03
type of drugs but talking with
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her a little bit at the beginning I knew
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that possibly she was in a a world of
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her
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own what happened to your wrist there I
00:22:18
did happen to Noti that on her wrist
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there was two slash marks on her wrist
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and I asked her directly I said well
00:22:26
what happened there and she said said I
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had a breakdown had a boyfriend he
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wasn't very
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nice Mike dropped Christy off at an
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intersection near Hanford
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California a week later he read an
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article about christe's disappearance
00:22:43
and contacted her parents they
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immediately sent
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photographs I went through several of
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the pictures and my personal failing
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that was the girl I picked up on the
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freeway I'm positive that is her I'm
00:22:57
positive and I I can say that now I can
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say it's positive I believe that Christy
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is out there somewhere and that she's
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alive because Christy is a
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Survivor she has a lot of strength she's
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very friendly I believe that she would
00:23:13
not be aloner that she would hook up
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with someone we want her back home
00:23:17
because we know that with our help she
00:23:20
can once again recover from whatever it
00:23:22
is that she's going through and um we
00:23:25
really hope somebody out there knows
00:23:27
where she is and can help her get home
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Christy's parents now believe one of the
00:23:32
most credible sightings is from a woman
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who picked up a girl hitchhiking between
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Salt Lake City and Park City Utah the
00:23:41
woman was able to describe details about
00:23:43
her clothing that had never been
00:23:45
released to the public Christy Krebs is
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5'2 in tall and has a deformed right
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thumb that is thick at the knuckle with
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the tip of the thumb curving inward
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next a young woman is held against her
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will by a cult she accuses its leader of
00:24:05
kidnapping and rape let
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[Music]
00:24:15
me the small Midwestern town of Liberty
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Missouri just before midnight at the
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compound of a local religious
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group hello Tim this is Julie what are
00:24:31
you doing it's late can you please come
00:24:33
get me the young woman is Julie Cooper
00:24:36
and she's 22 years old she made this
00:24:39
desperate call for help to a man that
00:24:41
she had met only once she would tell him
00:24:44
that she had been trapped in a religious
00:24:46
cult called the decloud family for 16
00:24:50
years the family nearly 30 men women and
00:24:53
children live together in a commune far
00:24:56
removed from the outside world okay
00:24:59
Julie had told me bits and pieces of
00:25:01
what had gone on but I'm still not aware
00:25:03
of the whole story and I'm thinking well
00:25:05
you know it's no big deal nobody's going
00:25:07
to catch
00:25:08
us Julie convinced him to help her
00:25:11
Escape From The
00:25:14
Cult she was crouched down in the grass
00:25:18
um with a trash bag full of
00:25:22
clothes go go go she was very very
00:25:25
nervous and very afraid
00:25:29
after 10 years Julie Cooper had finally
00:25:32
escaped from the cult she then contacted
00:25:35
authorities and told a horrifying story
00:25:37
of her life within the commune the most
00:25:40
chilling allegations focused on the
00:25:42
leader of the cult Nelson
00:25:45
decloud Nelson decloud was an ex police
00:25:48
officer from Raytown Missouri a suburb
00:25:51
of Kansas City he considered himself the
00:25:54
spiritual leader of his family re that's
00:25:57
what he called his father
00:25:59
Nelson thought that he was God's son not
00:26:03
really that he was Jesus Christ but that
00:26:05
he was one of God's sons and that he
00:26:08
couldn't do any wrong and he said to me
00:26:11
these are they which came nson had a
00:26:13
very booming voice his eyes were like a
00:26:16
white blue where it just would scare you
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praise the
00:26:20
Lord when her family joined the cult
00:26:23
Julie Cooper was just 6 years old when
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she was 10 she says forced her to watch
00:26:30
him have sex with a female member of the
00:26:35
family I want you to stay out here for a
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little while he asked me to have sex
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with him and I didn't want to and I
00:26:41
didn't what I want you to do Julie is
00:26:43
what God want you to do you understand
00:26:45
me yes all right I guess he was so far
00:26:48
into he couldn't do any wrong kind of
00:26:51
deal that it didn't matter to him now
00:26:54
you listen to me do you know how old
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Mary was when she had Jesus
00:26:59
14 years old 14 years old now you think
00:27:01
about that there's nothing wrong with
00:27:03
that he put me out in this like wooded
00:27:05
area what God I didn't have any food I
00:27:07
didn't have any jacket or anything like
00:27:09
that when you coming
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back I'll don't know when to come back
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God will tell me when to come back Julie
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stood in the field alone and shivering
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for 8 hours only then the Nelson take
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her back to the compound there is a
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sinner amongst us
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and I am deeply troubled another member
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of the family was publicly humiliated
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after she confronted the cloud about his
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cruelty she has chosen to
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disobey my word she has chosen to
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disobey God's word he was going to make
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an example of her in front of me in
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front of others comes
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Penance that was enough to scare me he
00:27:51
knew that I was already scared ourselves
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or
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husband I felt like
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it was my fault
00:28:00
because here or she tried to stand up
00:28:03
for me and I wasn't giving
00:28:06
in he found me and he says well are you
00:28:10
ready now of course you know after all
00:28:13
that had happened I said yes Julie
00:28:16
became a prisoner in the compound forced
00:28:19
to serve as one of the Cloud's unwilling
00:28:21
sex partners when she was 15 she made
00:28:25
her first attempt to escape after
00:28:28
everything had happened to me everything
00:28:29
was going on um I decided to run away
00:28:32
you know I just couldn't take
00:28:33
anymore nelon De Cloud immediately
00:28:36
organized search parties to find Julie
00:28:39
Julie you stop right where you are you
00:28:41
hear me girl you stay right there stop
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right
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there come here come here don't let me
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go
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please Nelson and another guy came
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picked me up handcuffed and took me back
00:28:59
I was so scared of him of what would
00:29:01
happen to me offer your shoes Julie was
00:29:05
ordered to take off her clothes and
00:29:07
later she was severely beaten offer your
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shirt after that he always kept me with
00:29:14
him I always had to sleep with him in
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his in his bus in his area he wouldn't
00:29:20
let me out of anybody's
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[Music]
00:29:25
sight seven more years passed J jie
00:29:28
patiently waiting for one more chance to
00:29:30
escape and then Nelson De Cloud asked
00:29:34
Julie to contact a satellite dish
00:29:37
repairman and that's when Julie Cooper
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met Tim
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Santi as I pull into the driveway I see
00:29:45
several cars I see a lot of kids running
00:29:47
around and the first impression that I
00:29:49
get is that you know this has to be some
00:29:50
type of party the satellite
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company oh brother Nelson this is our
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brother and God Nelson de Cloud Nelson
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I'd like for you to meet
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Tim when Tim was introduced to Nelson he
00:30:04
didn't show him any respect he didn't
00:30:06
think of him as anybody or anything and
00:30:08
that made me feel good made me feel like
00:30:10
I could trust in someone I could
00:30:12
actually talk to this person and he
00:30:14
could understand me over the next couple
00:30:17
of weeks afterward um I'd asked her out
00:30:20
for a date and she had seemed like she
00:30:23
was willing but was not that there was
00:30:25
something that was holding her back well
00:30:27
he had asked me out and of course I told
00:30:30
him that I couldn't go and I couldn't go
00:30:31
for a year you know wouldn't be able to
00:30:33
get out for a year that was just a way
00:30:34
of putting him off and seeing if he was
00:30:37
willing to go on with trying to wear me
00:30:40
down in the course of our conversations
00:30:42
on the phone um we had she had come up
00:30:45
with a plan that she had that she would
00:30:46
need to sneak out at night
00:30:50
undetected I called him up and I said I
00:30:52
want to go
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tonight we made it time 1:15 in the
00:30:56
morning and uh sure enough 115 hit he
00:30:59
was
00:31:01
there go go
00:31:03
go after I left I was afraid they would
00:31:06
take me back um they
00:31:10
would beat
00:31:12
me uh do something to my mom I'm still
00:31:15
afraid that he is torturing my mom in
00:31:17
some way for what I've
00:31:20
done at dawn decloud and another family
00:31:23
member went looking for Julie pretending
00:31:26
to be police officers they drove to
00:31:28
Tim's house Hey Hey where's
00:31:34
Julie what where is
00:31:36
Julie lucky for Julie decloud had the
00:31:40
wrong address the house belonged to
00:31:42
Tim's brother Ted Tim and Julie were
00:31:45
just a few yards away sound asleep in
00:31:48
the house next door the next day Ted
00:31:50
came up to me and said what the hell's
00:31:51
going on here two strange people had
00:31:54
come into his home um
00:31:58
looking for me like I you know like I
00:32:00
was a criminal or something they won't
00:32:03
let me leave and that's when Julie had
00:32:05
told us the whole thing of what was
00:32:07
going on why did you want to run
00:32:10
away she had also alluded to the fear
00:32:13
that any man that was physically able
00:32:15
from that group would probably come and
00:32:17
try to get her and they raped me and I
00:32:20
can't stay there
00:32:22
anymore detective Dwayne WMA of the
00:32:25
local sheriff's department had been
00:32:27
suspicious of the cloud and his cult for
00:32:30
a long time I was
00:32:33
abused I believed Julie from the
00:32:35
beginning abuse what what type of we had
00:32:38
a hard time trying just to focus on the
00:32:41
charges that of a rape at the time cuz
00:32:43
there's so many other things that could
00:32:44
have been he could have been charged
00:32:46
with De Cloud quickly ordered the women
00:32:49
and children to load their possessions
00:32:51
onto four converted buses decloud then
00:32:54
took them away from the
00:32:55
commune we believe they're still
00:32:57
together because Nelson feeds off the
00:32:59
power of being in control of a group if
00:33:01
he doesn't have the group then he has no
00:33:04
power I want Nelson to get caught
00:33:06
because it's not fair to anyone else
00:33:08
that's up there my mom and dad they need
00:33:10
to know that he isn't the Messiah he's a
00:33:15
criminal what he was doing was
00:33:18
wrong the sheriff's department issued a
00:33:21
warrant for Nelson De Cloud but he was
00:33:24
long
00:33:26
gone update
00:33:28
after our broadcast several viewers from
00:33:31
San Angelo Texas called Unsolved
00:33:34
Mysteries sanangelo is a small town 500
00:33:38
M from De Cloud's old headquarters our
00:33:41
viewers called to say that they had seen
00:33:43
de Cloud's wife in the area the cult had
00:33:45
apparently settled into this Farmhouse
00:33:48
when state and local agents arrived
00:33:50
decloud kicked out the screen of the
00:33:52
upstairs window to make his escape and
00:33:55
the deputies approached him and he tried
00:33:58
to wrestle with a few of them briefly
00:34:00
there were so many Law Enforcement
00:34:01
Officers though that he didn't that
00:34:02
didn't last very long they put the
00:34:04
handcuffs on him and escorted him out of
00:34:06
the building Nelson decloud was brought
00:34:09
back to Liberty Missouri to stand trial
00:34:12
he was convicted of rape sodomy and
00:34:15
kidnapping he is currently serving a
00:34:17
prison sentence of
00:34:20
220
00:34:22
years next at least three different
00:34:26
women go on a date with this man and are
00:34:29
never seen
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[Music]
00:34:37
again on an earlier program we told you
00:34:41
about missing fugitive Robert weeks two
00:34:44
of his long-term girlfriends had planned
00:34:46
to break up with him and they both
00:34:48
disappeared after one last dinner date
00:34:51
their bodies were never
00:34:53
found weeks's ex-wife Patricia had also
00:34:57
V finished years before whoever he's
00:35:00
involved with now may end up in the same
00:35:03
situation I definitely think there's a
00:35:05
pattern and I definitely think it could
00:35:06
happen
00:35:08
again
00:35:10
update the day after our broadcast
00:35:13
Robert weeks was captured in Arizona he
00:35:16
was living there with a new girlfriend
00:35:19
and when she saw our story about him
00:35:22
well she turned him in at the time weeks
00:35:24
was running a company called snuff it
00:35:27
which made ashray his business partner
00:35:30
was interviewed shortly after week's
00:35:32
arrest he said I haven't told anybody
00:35:34
this yet but I watched that
00:35:38
program and I said what he said yeah he
00:35:41
said I watched it
00:35:43
but I didn't figure any of my friends
00:35:45
would be watching weeks was brought back
00:35:48
to Nevada on a long-standing
00:35:49
embezzlement charge shortly after he was
00:35:52
indicted on two counts of murder he was
00:35:55
sentenced to life in prison with without
00:35:57
the possibility of
00:35:59
parole Robert weeks was still behind
00:36:02
bars when he died in
00:36:05
1996 sadly the bodies of Robert weeks
00:36:09
victims were never found weeks knew a
00:36:12
lot about Mining and authorities believe
00:36:15
that he may have hidden the bodies in
00:36:17
one of the many forgotten mines in
00:36:19
either the Arizona or Nevada
00:36:26
desert Orthodox Jews Trace their Roots
00:36:29
back 5,000 years to the time of Moses
00:36:33
and they live according to strict codes
00:36:35
that have remained unchanged for
00:36:39
centuries to maintain their Traditions
00:36:41
many communities have established
00:36:44
yeshivas which are schools that
00:36:46
emphasize the principles of Orthodox
00:36:51
Judaism one Saturday morning Don Daly a
00:36:54
veteran Nassau County New York police
00:36:57
detective
00:36:58
was dispatched to a Yeshiva in Long
00:37:00
Beach New York to investigate the murder
00:37:03
of one of its students the victim was
00:37:06
16-year-old hyam Weiss a single blow to
00:37:09
his skull with a sharp object had
00:37:11
severed his spinal column investigators
00:37:15
found no murder weapon there was no
00:37:17
evidence of a robbery and there were no
00:37:19
signs of a struggle detective da
00:37:22
realized that this would be unlike any
00:37:25
other homicide investigation in his 25
00:37:28
year career well I think initially we
00:37:31
were dealing with a Saturday which is a
00:37:32
Sabbath when we arrived at the scene
00:37:34
sometime around 8:00 in the morning uh
00:37:36
it was difficult to talk to anybody at
00:37:38
that particular time because uh number
00:37:40
one uh the people we're dealing with
00:37:42
being Orthodox Jews uh then not able to
00:37:46
write we couldn't take statements from
00:37:47
anybody we got the impression a lot of
00:37:49
the students at that time were afraid to
00:37:51
talk to us or a little shy as he
00:37:54
investigated the scene Dy thought the
00:37:56
killer might have been familiar with the
00:37:58
Yeshiva and the customs of Orthodox
00:38:02
Judaism it appeared that hyen had been
00:38:04
killed while he was sleeping his body
00:38:07
was then moved first from the bed to the
00:38:09
floor and later to another spot 2 ft
00:38:13
away curiously Ham's window was left
00:38:16
wide open on this chilly October night
00:38:20
it would be customary in the religion uh
00:38:23
to open a window or a door where the uh
00:38:27
the dead person would be to let the
00:38:30
spirit out it uh it would also be
00:38:32
customary uh for the uh the body to be
00:38:36
taken off the bed uh because the body
00:38:39
should be at the the lowest point and
00:38:41
the coolest point the coolest point
00:38:43
being the floor compared to the bed
00:38:45
another ritual would result in a third
00:38:48
puzzling clue one of the rabbis asked to
00:38:50
leave a memorial candle in the room to
00:38:53
burn for 7 Days the crime scene was then
00:38:56
sealed
00:38:58
however 2 Days Later another candle
00:39:01
mysteriously appeared no one in the
00:39:03
school ever admitted to having placed it
00:39:06
in the room if they lit that candle as a
00:39:09
gesture of uh sympathy or love uh for
00:39:13
high why wouldn't they come forward and
00:39:15
and say that that that's certainly a a
00:39:18
good uh thing to do nobody came forward
00:39:20
with that detective Dy set about piecing
00:39:24
together the final hours of H am Weiss's
00:39:26
life he learned that hyim was an
00:39:28
outgoing likable teenager who was at the
00:39:31
top of his class he had been attending
00:39:34
the Yeshiva in Long Beach for 2 and 1/2
00:39:37
years on the day he was killed hyim left
00:39:41
glass with his friends to attend
00:39:43
Services afterwards he returned to the
00:39:46
dormatory hours later two classmates saw
00:39:49
himim reading in the hallway many of the
00:39:52
students do that because of their
00:39:54
religion they don't put lights on and
00:39:55
off on the Sabbath it was dark so the
00:39:58
lights are left on in the main hallway
00:40:00
the students sit out in the hallway and
00:40:02
read police think the killer probably
00:40:04
knew the layout of the dormatory and was
00:40:07
probably aware that hyam was one of only
00:40:10
two students without a roommate we did
00:40:13
have one student who felt that he heard
00:40:15
his door open up sometime during the
00:40:18
night and then close again but he
00:40:20
assumed it was his
00:40:22
roommate there are a lot of questions
00:40:24
that we haven't been able to answer we
00:40:27
really never got any leads in this case
00:40:29
nothing from the outside which is
00:40:31
unusual we have some things that we have
00:40:33
to put behind us here a few days after
00:40:35
the murder detective daily called a
00:40:37
meeting with the students teachers and
00:40:40
rabbis but if anybody knows anything we
00:40:44
need the help but almost every question
00:40:47
he asked was answered by silence you
00:40:50
fell is really you know do you
00:40:51
understand how important this is we
00:40:54
learned at one point that in their
00:40:56
particular Orthodox Rel
00:40:57
unless you have proof or another witness
00:41:00
mere suspicion alone is not enough to go
00:41:02
and say anything or to accuse somebody
00:41:05
you know for sure who killed Kim Weiss
00:41:08
no police eventually polygraphed 40
00:41:11
students and several of the schools
00:41:13
teachers and rabbis no suspects or
00:41:16
motives were revealed who killed him and
00:41:19
why remains a Myst and not knowing makes
00:41:23
it much more difficult for me to cope
00:41:27
certain things I accept my son's dead
00:41:30
but the murder is still loose all these
00:41:32
unanswered questions makes me feel very
00:41:35
very unish why would anyone brutally
00:41:38
murder a 16-year-old boy who had no
00:41:41
known enemies police haven't covered
00:41:43
only one significant clue a jogger
00:41:46
stated that he saw a young man a few
00:41:49
blocks from the school on the morning
00:41:50
Ham's body was found all attempts to
00:41:53
identify the student have been
00:41:55
unsuccessful
00:42:33
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Episode Highlights

  • Mysterious Lights at Military Base
    Airmen witness strange lights in the woods, leading to one of the most documented UFO sightings.
    “We saw some lights, sir, red ones, some white ones...”
    @ 05m 13s
    March 09, 2017
  • Christy Krebs' Disappearance
    After a traumatic incident, 22-year-old Christy disappears, leaving behind a mysterious scene.
    “It looked like foul play, but was it?”
    @ 16m 54s
    March 09, 2017
  • Julie Cooper's Escape
    After 16 years in a cult, Julie Cooper made a desperate call for help.
    “She was very, very nervous and very afraid.”
    @ 24m 31s
    March 09, 2017
  • Nelson De Cloud's Capture
    Nelson De Cloud was finally apprehended after evading authorities for years.
    “He was convicted of rape, sodomy, and kidnapping.”
    @ 34m 12s
    March 09, 2017
  • The Murder of Hyam Weiss
    The mysterious murder of 16-year-old Hyam Weiss left investigators baffled.
    “Who killed him and why remains a mystery.”
    @ 41m 19s
    March 09, 2017

Episode Quotes

  • I can't explain it, I really can't.
    Unsolved Mysteries with Dennis Farina - Season 4, Episode 22
  • Christy is a survivor, she has a lot of strength.
    Unsolved Mysteries with Dennis Farina - Season 4, Episode 22
  • I was so scared of him of what would happen to me.
    Unsolved Mysteries with Dennis Farina - Season 4, Episode 22
  • I want Nelson to get caught because it’s not fair to anyone else.
    Unsolved Mysteries with Dennis Farina - Season 4, Episode 22
  • Why would anyone brutally murder a 16-year-old boy who had no known enemies?
    Unsolved Mysteries with Dennis Farina - Season 4, Episode 22

Key Moments

  • UFO Sighting04:50
  • Christy's Breakdown18:11
  • Search for Christy21:25
  • Desperate Call24:31
  • Cult Escape25:32
  • Cult Leader Captured34:12
  • Unsolved Murder41:38

Words per Minute Over Time

Vibes Breakdown

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