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this program is about unsolved mysteries
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whenever possible the actual family
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members and police officials have
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participated in recreating the events
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what you were about to see is not a news
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broadcast this man calls himself Jose
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Antonio Gonzales but that is a known
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alias
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he is a convicted bank robber and the
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man without a past since his arrest in
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1990 Gonzales has refused to reveal his
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true identity or any other detail about
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his shadowy life on June 30th 1991 Larry
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Williams walked into his son's house and
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into a nightmare Danny Williams was dead
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from a single bullet wound to his
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forehead
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at first glance an obvious suicide but
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Larry Williams has collected convincing
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evidence that indicates his son may have
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been murdered in 1978 a young pilot
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named Frederick Valenti took off from
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Moorabbin Airport in Australia 47
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minutes later a frantic Valletta kraid
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you that he had encountered a bizarre
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light source then the radio
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transmissions abruptly ceased and the
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plane vanished as if plucked from the
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sky join me for another edition unsolved
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mystery
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Anchorage Alaska December 11th 1990 at 3
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p.m.
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two bank employees arrived at a local
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mall to restock an automated teller
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machine
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the security guard took the cash into a
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small secluded room behind the machines
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while the teller went outside to
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reprogram the ATM open the door don't
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turn around
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do exactly what I say and you won't be
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hurt do you understand yes open the door
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put your hands above your head into the
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room you over here you open the vault
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turn around there was nothing about this
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robbery that could have happened that
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this individual wasn't prepared to
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handle he knew the entrance in' into
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this back room back hallway in order to
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get into the teller machine he knew that
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no one could see him from there he knew
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exactly what it took in order to open up
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the machine where the money was stored
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inside a machine and also instructed to
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tell her to take a video tape out of the
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video machine so as not to be caught on
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film now the robber also had a small
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smile on his face
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which the guard thought was a little
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peculiar the guard believed that this
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robber was very relaxed I know what your
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name is I know where you live
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do you understand both of you silent for
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five minutes the FBI believe the robbery
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was an inside job even though the two
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employees had not recognized their
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assailant suspicion immediately fell on
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a former security guard in Jose Antonio
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Gonzales who was already being
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investigated in connection with a
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similar robbery but Gonzales had
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conveniently disappeared
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two days later in Redmond Washington
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1,500 miles south of Anchorage a postal
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worker noticed a partially open package
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oh wait a minute this one's torn what
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about it looks like a gun in there
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the address is on the top of the box was
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an address to a gentleman named Jose
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Antonio Gonzalez in Redmond Washington
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the return address was Anchorage Alaska
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a second box was later found in the same
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shipment also addressed to Jose Antonio
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Gonzalez
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postal inspectors obtained a warrant to
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search both boxes and discovered a small
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Arsenal 38 loaded [Â __Â ] load it as well
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beretta money the postal inspectors also
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found cash sixty-five thousand five
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hundred and forty dollars the exact
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amount
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taken in the Anchorage ATM - make sure
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he gets in 1849 and we'll just wait for
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him postal inspectors set up what they
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call a control delivery in essence a
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sting operation on December 14th 1990
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just three days after the robbery Jose
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Gonzales stepped right into their trap
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thank you very much
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back away from the car
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down your knees gonzolas was charged
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with armed bank robbery and tare counts
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of illegal transportation of firearms
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using the u.s. mail once in custody
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gonzales was cooperative perhaps too
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cooperative without prompting he told
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authorities his life story born in
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Puerto Rico graduated from Knickerbocker
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High School in New York City attended
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West Virginia University Gonzales then
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rattled off his social security number
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his date of birth and other vital
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statistics thank you this man was almost
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too good with his background everything
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was right there on the tip of his tongue
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from where he went to high school to
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where he was brought up unfortunately
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nothing Gonzales said was true here
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there was no Knickerbocker high school
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and no one named Jose Antonio gonzales
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had ever attended West Virginia
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University his social security number
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did seem legitimate until the FBI
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discovered he had two of them one
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belonged to a boy who was 11 years old
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it was clearly fraudulent but the other
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had been issued Jose Antonio Gonzalez
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born in 1950 tough Puerto Rico we
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located a birth certificate in Puerto
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Rico under the name that he said he is
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Jose Antonio Gonzalez
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but then 11 days later after the birth
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of Jose Antonio Gonzalez that child died
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of tetanus and we have the death
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certificate so we know who he is not we
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don't know who he is under interrogation
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the dishonest continued to embroider the
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facts is already elaborate background
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became more and more exotic you've been
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in the service yes I have LaBranche
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French Foreign Legion French Foreign
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Legion
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yes mr. Gonzalez indicated that he would
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a former French Foreign Legion errant
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that he'd been in the Legion for
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approximately five years he's seen
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action in Chad and Beirut he claimed to
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be a martial arts expert and an expert
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with various types of weapons and Zola's
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was full of surprises while he was
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awaiting trial the authorities
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discovered that he was fluent in at
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least four different languages
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t-today somebody in that town here we
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have an individual who speaks apparently
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rights and is very functional in English
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Spanish French and some type of a
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Croatian dialect but he converse with
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these people freely
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very easily the man was not your
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run-of-the-mill
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bank robber the more we kept digging
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into this gentleman's background the
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more mystery surrounded him on October
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15 1992 the enigmatic mr. Gonzalez was
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convicted of armed bank robbery and sent
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to the Sheridan federal penitentiary in
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Oregon but even with gonzales safely
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behind bars the case continued to
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fascinate investigators the only
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possible key to the prisoners true
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identity they were two mysterious women
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both of whom vanished before they could
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be questioned all right can help you yes
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I'm used to pick up the car for Jose
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Gonzalez after Gonzales was arrested his
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car was impounded by the Redmond police
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the next day a woman showed up the
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claimant did that from his attorney yes
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I don't understand he asked me to come
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and pick up his car there a problem yes
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ma'am I need what's called an
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authorization for release and you can
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get that from his attorney I cannot get
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the car at all without the authorization
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according to the police the woman was an
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intimate acquaintance and possibly an
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accomplice of Gonzales she went by the
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name Nadine cast oh no and Gonzalez for
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at least three years before he went to
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prison
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she has always been around mr. Gonzales
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at times she has introduced mr. Gonzales
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as a brother as a lover and as a friend
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she's never worked that we can find
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always drove very expensive cars always
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dressed in very expensive clothes
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Nadine appears to be the person who
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arranges for and acquires identification
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for mr. Gonzales she's always there
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almost like somebody that looks over him
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and has the documentation that he would
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need she has disappeared
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absolutely disappeared as far as we know
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in the United States
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Nadine Kirsten is five feet five inches
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tall weighs around 125 pounds and has
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dark hair and eyes she is a French
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national who has lived in London and the
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United States she sometimes uses the
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last names of go tom at cartel another
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woman who police believe might also be
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an accomplice has been positively
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identified Brenda Penn injure was
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Gonzalez's girlfriend at the time of the
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robbery
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a few days after Nadine's unsuccessful
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attempt to pick up the car
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Brenda Penn injures showed up at the
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impound lot with all the right papers
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the FBI anticipating her arrival and
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asked the impound lot attendant to serve
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her with a subpoena is that Brenda Penn
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injure that's right I've been asked to
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give this piece what is it that's a
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subpoena so you'll come before the grand
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jury incredibly just three days later
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the car would be found 2,400 miles away
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in a parking lot at the Newark New
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Jersey Airport we have to this day never
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located miss pett injure we've talked to
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her mother we've talked to everyone that
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we could knew that had contact with her
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and there has been no contact that we
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can verify since that day three days
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after she picked up the car she's gone
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we don't know where she's at and we
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don't know her fate Brenda Penn injure
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is 5 feet 9 inches tall weighs 145
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pounds and has blond hair and blue eyes
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update the mystery robber has been
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identified thanks in part to a viewer
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tip his nameis needle rods if kovitch 27
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year old Yugoslavia national who was
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apparently born in France after the
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broadcast
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authorities also located in questions of
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kovitch his two female friends neither
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has been charged with any wrongdoing in
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this case as for the mysterious if
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kovitch investigators are still hoping
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to discover more about his shadowy past
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next the dramatic account of a young
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Titus close encounter a most mysterious
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kind October 21st 1978 619 p.m. the
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continent of Australia a single-engine
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Cessna 182 lifted off from robben
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Airport just south of Melbourne the
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pilot was 20 year old Frederick politic
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Valente had been flying for two years
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accumulating more than 150 hours of solo
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time he had dreams of one day becoming a
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commercial airline pilot poletik flight
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plan called for a 40-minute trip west
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along the Australian coast at Cape Otway
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he would head south for a half hour run
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over a bass strait to King Island it was
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a routine followed on several occasions
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but this flight would be anything but
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routine
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it was a fairly normal exercise he had a
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an appropriate instrument writing for
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the trip it was a very straightforward
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flight and I mean I could see no reason
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why it shouldn't have been concluded
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successfully what happened three course
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air into that flight I think will be one
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of the great mysteries of Australian
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aviation Juliet it's really known
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traffic below 5,000 Delta Sierra Juliet
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no 9 traffic Delta Sierra Juliet this
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used to be a large aircraft below 5,000
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says just over halfway through his
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flight Belletti had been in contact with
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a flight service centre on the ground
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evidence mounted that something was not
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quite right the following recreation was
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based on the transcript of a Lennox
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exchange with an air traffic controller
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it seems to me like some sort of landing
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lights as it gets closer it could be one
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or two lights I don't know
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so when this is Delta Sierra Juliet
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penny crafts just passed out me at least
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a thousand feet above Roger and it it is
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a large aircraft to confirm Israeli Air
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Force aircraft in this vicinity Delta
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Sierra Juliet no known aircraft in the
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vicinity
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Delta Sierra Juliet seems Aries places
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for a game up here he's traveling on
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with me of two and three times its
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speeds I cannot identify
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can you describe the aircraft as it
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passes by it's a long shape he wasn't to
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the point where he was panicking but he
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was genuinely concerned by what he saw
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you know he with what he saw he was he
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was worried he sounded confused then as
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he described what the aircraft was doing
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you know I became a little bit concerned
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to this thing she's stationary what I'm
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doing now is orbiting and this thing's
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just orbiting on top of me like it's
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shiny all over
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it's just disappeared don't mean you
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would know it sort of aircraft I've got
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up here would you see some sort of
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military aircraft or what is the
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aircraft still with you
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Delta Sierra Juliet L Percy from
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Southwest don't to Sierra Juliet it's
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not bringing it it's not an aircraft
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suddenly an unidentifiable click
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Illinois's came over the radio the sound
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lasted 17 seconds then silence Delta
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Sierra Juliet this is Melbourne
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I had extreme doubt as to his safety but
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come in please flying a single-engine
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airplane over water lost communication
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in such strange circumstances I put an
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alert face on the airplane and once that
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had elapsed we then went to the distress
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phase stage and that was the
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commencement of the search about 11:30
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or midnight for the cuisine and harm and
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they we heard on the radio that an
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aircraft went missing and then two
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policemen call at the door and I
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verified the East I said then that the
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aircraft will presumably was your son
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it's an extended search and we don't
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know what's happened to him
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for four days a flotilla of search
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vessels crisscross Bass Strait there was
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absolutely no signed a poletik or his
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aircraft no evidence to suggest there it
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even been a crash all that remained was
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a final baffling radio transmission it's
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hovering and it's not an aircraft
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these were Frederick Valentich final
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haunting words oars which inevitably led
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to speculation if the young pilot had
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encountered a UFO however was nothing
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more than speculation until a witness
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came forward with a startling first-hand
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account
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around the time of filete experence the
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eyewitness and his family were returning
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from an afternoon Audi when they noticed
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unusual activity in the sky
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that's a play I can say the planets the
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boy thought about the play
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the witness has asked that we not reveal
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his identity
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I dabbed up on a star this lawn green
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light better thousand to 2,000 feet
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above the aircraft so we sat there and
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watched it for a few seconds and the
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green Lord got closer to the plane I
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said that line is coming down pretty
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stable sirs in the 45-degree angle I
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said I think it's gonna crash
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the eyewitness account appeared to
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support the theory that Belletti had a
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run-in with a UFO
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however the witness did not actually see
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the aircraft crash in the Bass Strait
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the only certainty was that poletik had
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vanished then six weeks later an amateur
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photographer came forward with evidence
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as some believe confirmed the presence
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of a UFO over Bass Strait on the evening
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of the flight ROI manifold had been
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setting up to shoot a sunset at Cape
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Otway almost directly under the Lenox
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flight path everything was gone and done
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the normal thing you know he just had
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the camera on automatic exposure and I
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took these six photographs of the Sun
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disappearing into the into the sea one
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developed the last amount of false
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photographs displayed a peculiar blemish
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observed this mark only the print that
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looks like a developing error or
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something you know they've mocked it up
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and I said there's just a minute that
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was taken that night I took that son
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says exactly the North that this guy
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disappeared
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a leading Australian photo lab found
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neither dirt nor damage on the negative
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determining of a strange mark was
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actually in the picture the film was
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later sent to the United States for
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computer analysis by a team of UFO
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researchers they claimed that the plot
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was actually a solid metallic object to
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them it appeared to be enveloped in a
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cloud of exhaust situated about a mile
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from the camera however a second more
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recent analysis concluded that the spot
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is an all probability a developing error
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even so Roy manifold is inclined to
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believe the photograph does show
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something of consequence unfortunately I
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didn't see it now I didn't hear anything
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that particular not to either first time
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if it's something on any of more pretty
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than dog tons of thousands of
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photographs and without any incidence of
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any anything like that on them
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skeptics tend to dismiss the photograph
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as just another far-fetched effort to
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prove the existence of visitors from
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outer space but even for those who are
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not prone to believe in UFOs the events
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of October 21st 1978 continue to defy
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explanation
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there's been no recovery of any wreckage
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of course he he has gone so we're left
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with an open case which sounds very much
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like he did encounter something very
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mysterious and there's no other
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conclusion that I can come to other than
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that it is hard I'm very sentimental on
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keeping everything that they was belong
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to he may be the mother car they was
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driving to the airport I'm still driving
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I believe that my son it possibly one
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died will come back and this is a dream
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that might come true one died 15 years
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of passes Frederick Valletta crew off to
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his uncertain fate however the questions
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raised by his mysterious disappearance
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are just as disturbing today
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what exactly did let exceed the minutes
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before radio contact was lost his things
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is stationary but was a brilliant green
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light seen hovering over the Cessna and
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in that same light somehow over power
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let explain as it vanished from view
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perhaps the secret of Frederic quality
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does lie many fathoms beneath Bass
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Strait or perhaps it lies far from our
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planet light-years beyond our
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understanding
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December 22nd 1991 juice Creek South
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Carolina
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at 10:30 p.m. a speeding car with three
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men inside was pulled over on a desolate
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road leading to the local marina I
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approached the vehicle on a driver's
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side said good evening that I see your
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license and registration and at that
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point I got virtually no response maybe
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he didn't hear me so I asked him again
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sir could I see your license and
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registration please I stole Bentley's
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the person in the back seat said
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something in a foreign language which I
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think was Spanish the driver then
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responded by reaching across to the bug
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box and filling out a what turned out to
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be a passport I told him just slow it
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down be careful I never got any response
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from him he never said yes or thank you
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the two guys in the front seat never
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spoke a word
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the next morning officer Bollinger was
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surprised to learn that the two men in
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the front seat of the car he had stopped
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were supposedly missing at sea the focus
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of an intense month-long search by the
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Coast Guard
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the men were French sailors 37 year old
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Evy Manuel pan and 24 year-old Laura F
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na hired a convoy a French made sailboat
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to new owners in October of 1991 they
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had embarked on a 2,500 mile voyage from
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Annapolis Maryland to Guadeloupe in the
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West Indies their vessel was a
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state-of-the-art Antigua catamaran worth
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$200,000 the boat was perhaps the most
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sophisticated of this kind strapped to
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the gills with high-tech radar a
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satellite tracking unit and electronic
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navigational equipment the Antigua's
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unique construction made it unsinkable
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and virtually undetectable to radar a
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perfect vessel for transporting weapons
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or drugs
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Edie Manuel and Laurel planned to sail
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down the Chesapeake Bay around Cape
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Hatteras and parallel to the east coast
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of the US for jumping to their final
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destination
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Honolulu when the Antigua failed to
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arrive on schedule the Coast Guard was
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notified we searched for a little over
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two weeks we also alerted all the
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cutters and aircraft who searched
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throughout the Caribbean every day for
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other things never saw one sight of the
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vessel it never showed up have never
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seen a sense however the Coast Guard did
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discover that the Antigua was sighted a
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number of times several miles off course
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in the Intracoastal Waterway the
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waterway is a protected inland passage
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which stretches from New England through
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Florida nobody can explain what the boat
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was doing there
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in December of 1991 two of evie Manuel's
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friends flew from France to South
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Carolina to launch their own
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investigation
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jean-yves la lien act and Isabel CTL
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began by retracing the catamarans route
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their first stop was a bridge 90 miles
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north of Charleston South Carolina 94 37
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sure the bridge tend to remember seeing
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the two missing sailors surprising he
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also revealed there was a third man on
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the boat
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third person was not supposed to be on
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board the fact that they did not contact
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they capped Greg Flint as a local
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yachtsman who helped in the search plans
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or that there was someone else aboard or
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that they had any trouble indicates that
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something something happened that had
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not been planned for the mysterious
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third passenger was sighted by at least
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five different witnesses each reported
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that the man did not seem threatening
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leading to rumours and perhaps one or
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both of the Frenchmen had been involved
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in stealing the boat but their families
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and friends vehemently dismissed that
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scenario say fine Schoenberg a semester
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so truly even manual is not the type of
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person who would do something like that
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he was training someone he didn't know
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beforehand and felt responsible both for
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the boat and for long it's impossible
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that if a manual would have involved
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Lohani some dangerous adventure even if
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it meant making enormous sums of money
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jean-yves is convinced that the stranger
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perhaps aided by an armed hidden
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accomplice hijack the Antigua but did
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not know how to sail it the tapas
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because she scenario vanilla but if the
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purpose was simply to steal the boat
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they would have just killed Eva Manuel
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and no harm from them of aboard that
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must have been a reason for keeping them
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alive and logically that seems to be
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just to keep the boat though is
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preferable says battle-ax
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Eva man will pass Laura
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Erina were last seen on the boat 30
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miles south of Charleston South Carolina
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five weeks later they were pulled over
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in the speeding car
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as the man in the backseat the
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mysterious third passenger perhaps even
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Manuel and Laura were being held against
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their will
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or perhaps note seems unlikely they
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fooled everyone and made off with a two
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hundred thousand dollar prize next a
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father embarks on a desperate quest to
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prove to authorities that his son did
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not commit suicide
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Sunday June 30th 1991
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Galesburg Illinois longtime residents
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Larry and Louis Williams had finally
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given in to two days of worry if he
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doesn't answer the door I'm gonna go
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inside they had been trying to reach
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their 23 year old son Danny since early
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Saturday morning
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daddy this is your dad I kept calling
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Danny's name saying Danny this is your
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dad that's me coming him because he did
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have a gun in the house for protection
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and I didn't want to be in a situation
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where he was asleep and shot his own dad
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my first thought in looking at him is
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that he was not alive he was sitting on
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the couch in an upright position with a
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bullet in his head and a gun in his lap
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so the comment that I made as I went
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through the door who then don't let
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don't let this be what it looks like
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Danny Williams as Larry and Louis's
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youngest son for two years Danny had
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managed distribution for the family's
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multi-million dollar apparel
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manufacturing company he had recently
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bought his first house the house where
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he died Larry Williams calls a Galesburg
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Police meter semi-automatic pistol the
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position of the body the type of wound
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the absence of any specific evidence of
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foul play
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indicated to us that the gunshot wound
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could have been self-inflicted
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and caused us to classify the case as a
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as a suicide I grew up in the south
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handling guns I know how guns operate
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I've shot every kind of tourism and it
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would be almost impossible for an
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individual to have shot themselves and
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have a bullet or a gun laying in their
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lap in the position this was it just
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wasn't natural convinced that his son
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had not committed suicide Larry Williams
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hired a private detective Mike turn
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quest the time of Danny's death had been
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estimated to be 2:30 a.m. on Saturday
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but turn quest immediately found a
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neighbor who said she had seen Danny
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several hours later at approximately
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10:30 a.m. mrs. sayers
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investigator and I'm working on the
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death of Danny Williams I should but I
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watch everybody's business
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it was Saturday morning that I saw Danny
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get in the car with this woman so
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naturally being nosy as I am I looked
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over real good she had dark hair she
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would have been between 25 and 30 the
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police knew that Danny whose license had
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been revoked was picked up by his mother
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on Friday the day before he died they
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believed mrs. sayers had her days mixed
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up no it was not Friday it was Saturday
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and the lady in the blue car was too
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young to have been his mother several
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witnesses had also noticed activity at
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Danny's house on Sunday a full 24 hours
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after the estimated time of death one of
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the people later seen outside the house
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was a young man with curly brown hair
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approximately five feet four inches tall
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the eyewitness testimony can easily be
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mistaken as as simple as that they may
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have seen some activity there but it's a
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distinct possibility that the days may
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have been confused as to when they were
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seeing that that movement Danny's father
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claims as some of the physical evidence
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turned up by the police themselves
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seemed to argue against suicide the
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bullet which they believed had killed
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Danny exited through his head and lodged
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in the wall curiously when the police
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removed the bullet there was only one
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small spot which appeared to be blood on
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the paneling with the head being that
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close to the wall you most certainly
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would expect to find large or massive
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amounts of blood splatter either at or
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near the back of the couch and and most
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certainly on the back wall we don't
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necessarily agree that there would have
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to be a large quantity of blood behind
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him the theory that there would have to
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be a large amount of blood is based on
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in some cases based on what's seen in
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the movies and what's seen on on
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television and that's
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necessarily consistent with what happens
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in fact Larry Williams next brought in
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an independent forensic scientist mark
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Posey to determine whether someone else
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had been in the house when Danny died I
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had this feeling that I was gonna go out
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see the house see a typical messy scene
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and tell Larry then I think your son
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commits suicide from the pictures that
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Danny it did look like you can take one
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in the forehead so I could go with a
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suicide possibly or an execution when we
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get to the house and there's a lack of
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evidence to support the suicide oh hey
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Larry but bosey use a laser luminescence
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scanner to search out organic matter
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including blood which might not be
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apparent to the naked eye he discovered
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evidence of blood in several places even
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on the television set take a look at
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that splatter pattern all over the TV
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set if Danny just shot himself sitting
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there you definitely would not have a
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pattern at all behind the TV set and
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there's nothing in the kid Danny got up
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after shooting himself and walked around
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so someone else obviously dropped the
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blood droplets everywhere else that we
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found I have to take swabbing of that
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ran back to the lab you know tight and
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the blood found on and behind the
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television they're still awaiting tests
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by a forensic scientist who specializes
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in blood pattern analysis however
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samples found in other parts of the
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house have been typed Danny Williams
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blood was Type B mark bosie found Type B
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and type O blood in the den where
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Danny's body was
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oddly Busey also found type old blood in
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the bathroom and inside the pocket of
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Danny's jeans it is not possible that
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all the blood in the room came from
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Danny it's an impossibility
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this evidence suggests to me that two
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people in the room were bleeding two
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separate individuals the official police
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positions at the alleged Type O blood
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samples had been compromised when the
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crime scene was cleaned according to the
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Illinois State crime lab the adulterated
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samples could not be typed definitively
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I would begin to question the procedures
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if they claimed that they did not find
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Type O blood on the evidence I could
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guarantee you'd send that same evidence
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to five different independent
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laboratories that have no idea what this
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case is about they have no idea that
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this was a murder or suicide or anything
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and they will come back the type B blood
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and type O blood the police also point
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out that there was no way to determine
00:39:07
how long the alleged Type O blood had
00:39:09
been there further they say that mark
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Posey samples taken six weeks after
00:39:14
Danny's death were not fresh enough to
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type I don't know why they would argue
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with the point King Tut was typed for
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blood and he's how many thousands of
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years old the independent lab feels very
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confident in their results they have
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provided those results to mr. Williams
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and that's contributed to his concerns
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about the finding of suicide we feel
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just as strongly about the results of
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the Illinois State Crime Lab that there
00:39:46
was no evidence of a Type O blood in
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that home mark boses investigation
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appeared to turn up a piece of evidence
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which had been previously overlooked
00:39:57
which supported the theory that the
00:39:59
blood of two different people was shed
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in Danny's house mark was processing the
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room he opened the couch up and a shell
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casing fell out later tests showed that
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the shell did come from Danny's gun it
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had been recently fired
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so there were two shells found on the
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couch that came from Danny's got okay
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now we tried to analyze this and decide
00:40:25
well did Danny shoot someone did someone
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else you to Danny's gun and shot and and
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shoot him from the scene photos I saw
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Danny's gun was laying on his lap his
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hand was laying on top of the gun just
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as if he shat and then set it back down
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it's a little inconsistent with a
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suicide okay Larry I set up the right
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here in line with the bullet path and
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through the wall
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now I'm gonna get down and try to get my
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head in line with the bullet path in the
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wall how am i doing
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oh you're low enough but you got to
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point the gun more toward the wall
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pulling the weapon in this manner okay
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how am i it's through my head and it can
00:41:17
be squeezed off but you would fall over
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on the floor the body would have gone
00:41:22
forward nobody would have moved back
00:41:25
into the position it was in the gun
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probably would not have been in his lap
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it probably would be on the floor at a
00:41:31
coffee table
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our investigation indicated that the
00:41:35
position of the hole in the wall was
00:41:37
consistent with the way the body was
00:41:39
found primarily based on the fact that
00:41:42
we again can't say specifically how the
00:41:45
individual was sitting and exactly where
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on the couch he was sitting at the time
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the weapon was discharged
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marcozzi has come to believe that Danny
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was probably not shot in the den one
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theory is that there was an altercation
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somewhere else during which Danny's
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blood and another persons was spilled
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perhaps that person took Danny's keys
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out of his pocket leaving behind a trace
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of Type O blood
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finally the crime scene was arranged to
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make Danny's death looked like a suicide
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we can advance theories all day long
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everyone can but the factual data that
00:42:27
we've gathered we feel comfortable with
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he picked up a gun according to the
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police there was one final fact to
00:42:36
support the suicide ruling they say that
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Danny Williams's girlfriend described an
00:42:41
argument which had also resulted in a
00:42:43
shooting incident six months before
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Danny's death he had placed a weapon a
00:42:49
hand gun to his head she then turned and
00:42:52
started to leave the room and heard the
00:42:54
weapon discharged and found that he had
00:42:56
discharged the weapon into a wall so
00:42:59
apparently he had considered this act
00:43:03
before he had discussed this act before
00:43:05
and had taken I think what would have to
00:43:09
be considered a substantial step towards
00:43:11
that act by the discharge of the weapon
00:43:12
during the argument what it appears it's
00:43:15
happened as they have come up for the
00:43:17
conclusion and then have gone to a great
00:43:19
degree of effort to try to support their
00:43:21
theory that they put together and they
00:43:24
put as much effort into the fire trying
00:43:25
to find out what the truth wasn't what
00:43:27
happened they would be working along the
00:43:29
same lines at the families today thank
00:43:35
this is your dad the investigators crime
00:43:39
labs and what have you that I've had
00:43:41
working on this from the beginning as
00:43:43
soon as they went into the house saw
00:43:45
evidence that was in there then is still
00:43:48
there now were convicted I was it was
00:43:51
called Letterman in this most perplexing
00:43:54
case one issue has never been addressed
00:43:56
if Danny Williams was murdered who
00:43:59
killed him and why questions even his
00:44:03
father has been unable to answer
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next week unsolved mysteries travels to
00:44:29
Russia to investigate the fascinating
00:44:32
mystery of Anastasia she was a beautiful
00:44:35
teenage daughter of a lasses are of
00:44:37
Russian nicholas ii history holds that
00:44:40
the entire imperial family was executed
00:44:42
in the aftermath of the Bolshevik
00:44:44
Revolution but years later a woman named
00:44:47
Anna Anderson turned up in Germany
00:44:49
claiming that she was Anastasia and many
00:44:52
believe she had the evidence to proven
00:44:53
her incredible claim sparked a 35 year
00:44:56
court battle for the Tsar's legacy of 80
00:44:59
million dollars join me next time for
00:45:03
this intriguing journey to turn of the
00:45:05
century Russia and more on unsolved
00:45:08
mysteries
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