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Yeah, it was tough uh finishing up at
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Wales. Results and performances weren't
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good enough and I understand that and
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there was just a huge amount of
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negativity out there and I kind of woke
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up one day went actually I don't need
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this in my life. Probably a lot of
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people don't realize is that the success
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that we had over a period were there we
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knew we were papering over the cracks
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that were that were there and when we
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said when the dam bursts which it has
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it's going to take a while to fix it up.
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I have this romantic view of the Lions.
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I see the Lions as being an opportunity
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to celebrate the game. Probably 217 221
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was the first time I kind of went
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winning. It was more important than
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anything else.
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>> Do you do you loathe the media?
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>> It's one organization that I'd never
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deal with again.
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>> Can you say what organization or No,
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>> New Zealand Hero.
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>> Oh, right. On the Hero. Yeah. So, what's
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the story about that? What's the whole
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backstory with the clown nose? The clown
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thing. What's the closest you've you've
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come to being involved with the All
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Blacks? Have there been like phone calls
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or people reaching out over the years?
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Oh, I've had um
