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David Friedberg on the rise & risk of decentralization

January 30, 2021 / 05:21

This episode discusses the impact of collective belief on financial markets, politics, and society, focusing on examples like Tesla, Bitcoin, and the Capitol riots.

The conversation highlights how individuals can create value through belief, as seen with Tesla's stock performance despite initial skepticism from hedge funds. Elon Musk's vision for the future attracted investors, leading to significant capital raises.

The discussion also addresses the consequences of decentralization, comparing the shutdown of platforms like Parler and Robinhood to the suppression of collective action. The hosts argue that this could lead to a shift towards decentralized systems.

Concerns are raised about uncontrolled swarming behavior in decentralized environments, which can lead to negative outcomes such as cancel culture and mob mentality, as seen during the Capitol riots.

The episode concludes with a warning that while centralized systems can be effective, they must adapt to remain fair and inclusive, or risk creating chaotic societal outcomes.

TL;DR

Collective belief shapes markets and society, but unchecked decentralization poses risks of chaos and mob mentality.

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this is the most important learning from  this experience forget about the fiduciary  
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and the governance responsibility of  these companies whether they were good  
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or bad will be resolved over the next  couple of weeks and months i'm sure  
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as more information comes to light but what's  super interesting about what happened this week  
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and i think is the most impactful societally  over time um is that we're seeing this phenomena  
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where um individuals in aggregate can believe  something to be true and make it true and um  
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we saw this with tesla and i i don't think tesla  got this level of notoriety because it was such a  
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a longer playout cycle but elon you know was not  hitting numbers that people thought he was going  
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to hit margins production volume etc people were  shorting the stock but enough people believed in  
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the story that elon told about what he wanted the  future to look like that they bought the stock and  
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that gave him the ability to do shelf offerings  raise additional capital and ultimately build the  
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business and make it manifest in reality that he  said would happen and the same is true of bitcoin  
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and the same is true of trump and the same is  true of storming the capital in all of these cases  
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there was a belief in something and there was an  aggregation of individuals using social media as  
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a mechanism for sharing and talking and engaging  and creating a collective outcome that wouldn't  
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have happened through a centralized system or  centralized process and wouldn't have happened  
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in the traditional way where history defines the  future and i think that is what's so powerful  
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about what's happening right now um and we're  seeing it in financial markets but we're also  
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seeing it play out in politics and we're seeing it  play out in the real world um in a remarkable way  
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and it goes back to this notion that like a stock  is worth the underlying value of the company and  
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that that's not true people can dream a stock to  be anything as they did with tesla at the time  
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that people were buying tesla stock the historical  performance of that business was not what hedge  
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funds considered to be a you know a profitable  good business it shouldn't be worth anything  
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but the belief in what it could be is what drove  the value of that stock and ultimately that value  
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enabled that business to become true um and it's  just it's amazing to see it happening and i think  
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the counter which is really what makes this  so striking is the centralized institutions  
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that are trying to block this from happening and  um the shutting down of parlor and the shutting  
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down of robin hood trading are are equivalent  from my point of view um or at least equivalent  
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i think will be perceived to be equivalent broadly  which is if a group of people get together and try  
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and use an online service to make a change in the  world by sharing and talking with one another and  
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communicating a belief a collective belief and  that gets yanked away from them the institution  
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that has the ability to yank it away from them  is evil and it will force people to decentralize  
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and it will enable new ways of trading new  ways of communicating new ways of building  
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um and and that's the profound change that  i think this decade is going to realize and  
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we're just seeing it start now we talked about  decentralization and you know we all feel the  
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emotional response to the little guy getting  screwed by the big guy that controls the system  
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and we want to fight the system that's the basis  of every great movie it's worth highlighting  
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though that decentralization and what i would  kind of characterize as swarming behavior  
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uncontrolled swarming behavior can actually have  negative consequences and there's a reason systems  
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exist you know um when you put a bunch of people  in a room let's say you put 100 people in a room  
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and every time and someone says the word door and  every time you hear the word door you're supposed  
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to repeat it within 30 seconds the entire  room will be like deafening with everyone's  
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screaming door door and suddenly everyone will be  screaming it that's a feedback loop that occurs  
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in an uncontrolled social system and that's what's  occurred with gamestop and it's what occurred with  
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with bitcoin so there are as we've seen remarkable  outcomes when you allow systems to operate without  
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centralized control and without centralized brake  pads that that kind of slow them down or put in  
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place some rules and some obligations to how that  system operates the problem with decentralization  
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and this swarming approach uh to to resolution  where lots of people basically work together  
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individually is you end up with things like  cancel culture where um before a judge and jury  
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determines whether or not someone did something  wrong the community decides that person should be  
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punished and shuts them down in the real world and  their career and their life is ended and ruined  
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and we saw the same and we saw the same with  the capital riots you know people basically died  
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because of the swarm that occurred where this idea  that the there was fraud in the election became an  
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echoing deafening noise for these people and they  swarmed and killed people and the system by which  
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you can actually have vigorous debate and the  system by which you can actually have controls  
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and processes and judges and juries and trials  is what needs to be improved for this to work  
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otherwise people will go to decentralization and  you will have a lord of the flies moment that  
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engulfs civil society because the tools are there  today and so centralized systems can work but they  
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have to adapt and adapt quickly to be fair and  to enable and to not um discriminate uh otherwise  
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we're gonna see lord of the flies and we're gonna  see decentralization being the solution to getting  
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out of the system that's inhibiting us and we're  gonna end up having really [ __ ] ugly outcomes

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Episode Highlights

  • The Power of Belief
    The belief in a vision can drive stock value, as seen with Tesla.
    “People can dream a stock to be anything.”
    @ 01m 50s
    January 30, 2021
  • Centralized Control vs. Decentralization
    The struggle between centralized institutions and decentralized movements is reshaping society.
    “The institution that yanks it away from them is evil.”
    @ 02m 43s
    January 30, 2021
  • The Dangers of Swarming Behavior
    Uncontrolled social systems can lead to negative outcomes, including cancel culture.
    “Decentralization can lead to negative consequences.”
    @ 03m 15s
    January 30, 2021

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  • Collective Belief00:20
  • Decentralization Impact02:56
  • Swarming Behavior03:15

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