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well Megan Kelly looks to be parting
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ways with NBC her show is now cancelled
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Megan Kelly just landed a new gig why
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would she given a platform in the first
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place we're doing this program because
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we believe there's an urgent need for
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independent voices in the media
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landscape I know the audience you have I
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can reasonably guess it it's
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enormous podcast Rumble YouTube Twitter
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with Elon that's the problem a lot of
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people in cable news Megan are fighting
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yesterday's War they're not the problem
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now you're the problem ladies and
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Gentlemen please welcome Megan
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Kelly kid great to see you thank you for
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coming hi thanks for being here all
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right Hi Megan how are nice to see you
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hey Megan did you get to hear Peter teal
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Megan I did just the tail end just a bit
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what do you think of Peter he's
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brilliant yeah yeah I mean thank God for
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him right it's like there's a few guys
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in Tech with a lot of money keeping
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Republican candidates alive and we need
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every single one of
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them go he starting early um I think all
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of them were here today
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um
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[Applause]
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um you seem incredibly uh happy as an
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independent broadcaster and running your
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own show maybe uh number one am I right
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that you're just just absolutely engaged
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and excited again about broadcasting
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because it seemed like the tail end of
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your working for the machine was
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particularly challenging oh yeah tell us
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that's a polite way of saying it I'm
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trying to be polite no it's fine yeah
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you are well the last time you kind of
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blew remember when you called him a
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prick on on TV I do I do it was it was
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good natured it was good um yeah no I'm
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so I'm so much happier and it's really
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changed my whole view on on cancel
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culture you know I really I'm a Believer
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in cancel culture now I think it
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separates individuals from companies
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where they do not belong where the
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values are not aligned and I really
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can't
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imagine being right now at NBC or
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frankly at Fox News in this environment
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and having to comport with their rules
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on how we talk about these very dicey
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issues that are all over the news today
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I I could not do it it was just a matter
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of time before I was cancelled yeah talk
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about producing a show now that is the
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largest you're now the largest
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broadcaster in in the news category on
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YouTube crushing everybody else CNN Fox
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their YouTube channels uh now bow down
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before you and you are an independent
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company with I understand six people
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yeah um six producers six producers um
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so that is how many people at the peak
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NBC Fox did you have working in your
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group well I probably had about 15
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producers but Fox is always lean CNN
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Anderson Cooper show which was you know
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across from us for a while minus one
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hour had something like 100 staffers so
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think about it so we did not in July we
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did not beat CNN but we had two-thirds
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of CNN's YouTube audience two-thirds
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every single Dollar in the multi-billion
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dollar CNN audience went into obviously
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their live broadcasts which we Crush we
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Crush their numbers you know dollar to
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dollar in terms of like the podcast and
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so on but let's just look at YouTube so
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all those resources go into their
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YouTube feed as well and it's got every
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show on CNN every single talent and our
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one show with my six producers crushed
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the well came close to crushing them all
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and did Crush CBS and NBC which was a
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particularly
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nice when you
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left my understanding of these deals
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when Tucker left on Lemon um and you
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leave those broadcast ones it's kind of
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like they're paying you to not compete
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you can't go work for another Network so
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were you was that the case with you if
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you can say it and and then you were
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kind of forced to become an independent
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broadcaster I wasn't forced I was only
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forced to have my show end at NBC and
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beyond that I don't think I'm at Liberty
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to speak of the specifics but um I was
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free to get another job I just wasn't
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sure I would there was a couple of years
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there that were dark and depressing and
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my industry is incredibly disgusting and
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toxic and awful perhaps you've watched
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the news and you know um and I just sat
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on the couch thinking why would I go
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back into that that was terrible and it
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makes you a bad person and unhappy and
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all they do is stimulate outrage all the
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time and then get rich off of it and you
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have to push somebody else's agenda and
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I don't want to do any of that and it
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wasn't until the first the pandemic hit
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and then you know we started to lose our
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minds on all the mandates and then
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George Floyd and then we really lost our
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minds and seeing those people in the
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streets trying to make people put down
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their burgers and say black lives matter
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is when I got up off my couch and said
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now it's on like I I can't stand when
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people make me do things I really I
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can't stand bullies and it's in my DNA
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to stand up against them and so I had to
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get back on the air and I said to my
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therapist who is really
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underpaid
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um what if nobody watches you know what
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if nobody listens it was just a podcast
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at the time no Visual and uh he's from
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South Africa and he said well I'll
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listen I said okay great he said and
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Doug will listen my husband I'm like
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well I got two and that was four years
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ago and now it's going great how has
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your approach changed if at all in terms
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of what you want to produce and what
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conversations you want to have because
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you no longer have to think well what
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does Roger ell's think or this NBC
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person or or everybody in between you
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you actually the buck stops at your desk
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at your microphone you're the decider
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now so how what what is your framework
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for deciding what to put on there
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because you do also now um suffer from
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hey you're in YouTube if it bleeds it's
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lead leads if it has rage associated
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with it it's going to get more clicks so
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how do you mitigate that you know well I
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I love my producers and a few of them
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have been with me for over 10 years 15
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years plus from Fox News from the
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earliest show I ever did in 2007 to now
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so they know me very well and they know
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what lights my fire and if I feel that
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fire in the belly does it's usually not
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outraged it's just fire in the belly
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over the news then it's a good story for
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me and that differs host to host you
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know what what drives you nuts what what
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do you need to have your say on and so
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for me speaking of therapists it's like
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therapy to go out there on the set and
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say what I know is true right just say
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what's true about the news and then we
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can argue about the meaning and our
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opinions on what's true but what's true
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should not be so Up For Debate um but
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yeah I have a few through lines that my
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team always knows will get me excited
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and since the beginning Free Speech has
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been one of them and the thing about the
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cops it's not coincidental that that's
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what got me up because I've been at Fox
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you know 14 years I was there and I have
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a brother who's a police officer he's a
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retired lieutenant and one of the most
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Honorable Men you'll ever meet in your
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life and I am just so sick and have been
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so sick of the lies that have been told
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about cops it's brutal we have law
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enforcement in my family as well and
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it's really hard to watch this yeah yes
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it's so egregious this is is not to
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excuse the few bad apples that you see
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on the news but they are so not
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representative of your average police
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officer absolutely not and it's these
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guys make no money you know they they
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don't get a lot of Glory they risk their
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lives they risk their lives every day
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for us right and now on top of all that
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they're treated like absolute by
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everyone the news media absolutely no
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qualms about ruining these guys' lives
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before any due process and that's what
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the media has been doing with everyone
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in the past five years no due process
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you are you're accused of anything
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you're guilty and there's really no
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Jones to figure out whether it's fair
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and so you know given my legal
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background because I practiced law for a
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decade that's another piece of it that
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always gets me fired up somebody being
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unfairly railroaded I think the topic
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you've been most on fire and I think
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it's very brave is the issues around uh
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trans issues trans rights and maybe
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young children um you're not a bigot but
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you're being framed as that when this
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discussion comes up maybe you could
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explain just what is your position
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on biological men in locker
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rooms you know and and maybe kids
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receiving hormones or having their
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bodies mutilated because they maybe feel
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like they're the opposite gender I don't
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want to lead the witness here but I
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think we're more in sync on this issue
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than maybe most yeah I don't care what
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they call me they can call me a bigot a
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Turf a trans misogynist which is not a
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thing
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um I will speak truth men cannot become
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women
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period women can't become men either and
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men and boys do not belong in women's
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spaces whether it's a bathroom a locker
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room or a sports event they
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don't and good men do not wish to access
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those
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places and by the way even if you have
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some empathy for someone who's genuinely
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struggling the problem is the camel's
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knows because as soon as you allow one
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person who may be genuinely struggling
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with this issue into your 17-year-old
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girl's locker room that opportunity will
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be exploited by openly Bad actors and
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when girls start getting hurt in these
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private spaces as they already have been
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listen to Riley gain's testimonial about
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what happened to her with Leah Thomas
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about how he was in there he was looking
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at her she was naked she had no idea an
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intact male was entering her locker room
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the humiliation she felt that counts as
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injury but we could go well beyond that
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because it's crossed over to actual
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physical so I am willing to fight to my
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dying day against that without judging
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trans people themselves what you do in
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the privacy of your own home or your own
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life is your business not mine unless
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you make it my business and then you
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will hear from me and if you make it my
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child's business times 10 and in your
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answer is empathy for somebody who is
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suffering from gender dysmorphia and and
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who's struggling with that issue uh um
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and you don't have a problem with those
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individuals as you said two or three
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times in that one answer yet you could
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give that disclaimer you could say you
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have empathy or sympathy for them and
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the only thing they're going to hear is
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you know something they project into it
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so it got a lot easier for me on the
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name calling in response to this issue
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once I realized the vast majority of
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people who want to call me a bigot or a
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Turf are men they are men posing as
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women so these are men trying to shame
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me out of standing up for my daughter
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and myself and my fellow women on our
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safe spaces it's that's the end of it
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they can take a seat because these men
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don't know the first thing they're
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showing up for at for mammograms you
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ladies know what it's like the older
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ones like me sitting in the mamogram
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office where you're out there waiting to
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go in and you're in your little robe and
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you're worried you're nervous you got to
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do it when you hit a certain age you're
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but you're you know what you're there
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for you guys have it on the other end um
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you're like I I hope I don't have cancer
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they say I need to go here I got to find
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it early you're sitting looking at other
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women and now we're having men men sneak
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in there not because they're actually
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worried because a very very small
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percentage can get but because they want
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to feel like women same thing at the
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OBGYN get out get out of our spaces I'm
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sick of this what I have
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empathy for is us women and girls
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somebody else can worry about the
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feelings of the men who want to access
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have can I
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um do you think that there are
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individuals who have been historically
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repressed
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and have now felt the freedom to come
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out and say that they are a different
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gender or do you think that there's
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something else socially going on what's
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what's what's going on and and you know
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why do you think that this has become
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such a prominent issue of late in the
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last couple of years yes 100% it has
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exploded as a social contagion and
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that's been documented by many people
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from very smart woman at Brown to
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Abigail shrier and her mustre book
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irreversible damage and Beyond uh but
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this is a social contag this is not
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populating in the way that it is just
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because we're more accepting now and if
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that were true you would see it
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everywhere um but what you're seeing it
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is more concentrated in more leftist
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States cities regions and that's because
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the more of it kids are exposed to the
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more they gravitate toward it and in
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that way it is like anorexia I just had
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Kelly J Kee in a pre-tape show today
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she's airing tomorrow she's an activist
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on this issue and she was saying if you
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go on YouTube and you Google anorexia or
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bulimia they won't show you the videos
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but if you Google top surgery which is
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the super sweet way of saying a double
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myectomy usually for 15 or 14 year old
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girls you can see all you want all day
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long and what's happening more and more
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is autistic children or children
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someplace on the
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Spectrum stumble on to this and in many
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cases have obsessive thinking to begin
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with and go down a rabbit hole that
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takes them hours on end down Reddit or
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one of these other websites sites and it
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does become an obsessive thought and
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then obsessive behavior and then you
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have a medical community that has
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submitted to affirm the standard is
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affirm not are your parents going
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through a divorce did you have really
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bad grades was there a sexual assault in
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your past which is so often the case for
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a lot of the young girls in particular
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no you're not even allowed to go there
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or you're considered engaging in
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conversion therapy it's crossover that's
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it puberty blockers cross- seex hormones
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those two things alone in that order
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high high likelihood you are sterile you
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are sterilizing yourself and your
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parents are allowing it just puberty
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blockers into to cross- seex hormones
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that's it never mind chopping off body
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parts and then they'll go to school and
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they'll say I'm no longer a girl and the
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school will hide it from the people who
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love that child most their parents if
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the parents aren't on the affirm
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board in New York City where I fled with
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my children because they were trying to
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do this to our schools and our classes
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that's the that's the policy private and
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public you do not tell the parents it's
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a secret what kind of country are we
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getting to be where we allow secrets
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between grown teachers and minors that
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the parents aren't allowed to know
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that's what we used to call
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grooming right it opens up a very
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dangerous
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door and why has this become politicized
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and how has it become politicized that I
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don't understand I don't understand how
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frankly anyone can vote Democrat right
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now I just don't get it I know that
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there's a priority of issues right and
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for some people
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it's oh David's here he just woke
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up for some people s or democrat
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what it's abortion or it's uh you know I
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can't think of the issues that would
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make you vote Democrat even though I
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used to vote Democrat I'm a registered
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independent I voted in eight
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presidential elections I voted Democrat
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four times and Republican four I'm about
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as independent as you can get well let
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me can we let's shift gears to the
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election then so um yeah you piak his
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interest I didn't think that was going
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to be funny but so Megan I mean in
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addition to being a great broadcaster
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you actually are a great uh political
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pundit I would say and prognosticator I
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remember being on your show at the
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beginning of the Republican primary when
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DeSantis was riding High making the case
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for DeSantis obviously that was totally
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wrong and you're like no you know like
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it's going to be Trump you know the
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Republican part is not done with Trump
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and you were exactly right
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um do you what's your take on where
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things are at right now and do you do
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you have a take on who's going to win I
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mean of course we all want to know that
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right that's why we follow these polls
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religiously because we want to Peak into
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what's going to happen I mean I think
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Trump right now is better positioned to
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win than he's ever been in any election
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before if you look at where he is let's
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take the New York Times Sienna poll that
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just dropped that's the gold standard
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that's the best poll if you ask most
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pollsters huge sample and likely voters
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and it's got Trump up one which is
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basically a tie up one this time four
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years ago Biden was up nine over Trump
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and that election was this tight and it
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had Biden up nine it said the
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statistical probability of an electoral
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college for Trump was
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99.7% yeah if you look at the swing
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States Nate sil's interpretation of that
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poll that came out yeah and Nate now the
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left is turning on Nate inexplicably
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really I mean other than his data but
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they loved Nate and they created Nate
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but now that Nate's numbers aren't going
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their way they're like who's Nate
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connected to who's he working for Nate
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like most prognosticators wants to be
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right but look I'll say this and by the
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way in 16 it showed Hillary up too at
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this point so and Trump won that
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election you know the general wisdom is
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that the Democrat has to be up some four
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points or better in the National polling
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given the fact that they usually win the
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popular vote G just given how blue the
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urban centers are in order to win in
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order to cross over in those swing
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States and right now she's not I mean
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that New York Times shows her down you
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were in the middle of the 2016 election
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I find this comparison very interesting
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so I'm curious your take contrast and
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compare Donald Trump versus Hillary
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Clinton what day is it today
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September
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9th of that election and Donald Trump
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and kamla Harris September 9th
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now Trump had some advantages back then
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that he doesn't have now including his
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genuine Outsider status it was very
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attractive to a lot of Voters who had
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never voted before speaking of getting
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up off your couch um that really worked
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for him and Trump was incredibly vibrant
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feisty fiery fun you know provocative
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obviously controversial and new you know
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we all knew Trump but we knew him as
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this crazy n businessman with a lot of
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color and suddenly he morphed under the
00:18:28
itical field like unlike anything we'd
00:18:31
ever seen I mean there was a reference
00:18:32
to penis size and a presidential debate
00:18:35
yeah I was
00:18:37
there um so that happened this time
00:18:41
around people are a little bit more used
00:18:42
to Trump's bits right his routine he's
00:18:45
obviously a little older but still
00:18:47
vibrant I mean could any of you have
00:18:50
stood on that presidential stage and
00:18:52
given a nearly 2hour address a week
00:18:56
after someone shot you in the ear like I
00:18:59
was falling asleep and I was seated and
00:19:01
fine you know I'm like I didn't need so
00:19:03
he's got a lot of energy but he's not an
00:19:06
outsider exactly anymore he's he is
00:19:08
still one he's not taking like all the
00:19:09
money these fat cats and ready to kiss
00:19:11
their bottoms necessarily but he's lost
00:19:13
that what he's gained is a record you
00:19:16
know now Trump can go on this debate
00:19:18
stage tomorrow night with some real ammo
00:19:21
you know if you were you better off four
00:19:23
years than you are today and really
00:19:25
point to his policies one of the great
00:19:27
tragedies of the Trump era has been his
00:19:31
policies have been incredibly good for
00:19:34
America yeah it's just his rhetoric is
00:19:39
Sox divisive toxic depends on who you
00:19:42
ask right depends on who you ask that he
00:19:45
activating that the majority of
00:19:46
Americans dislike him and then what
00:19:48
about Hillary versus K oh god well
00:19:53
Hillary was smart
00:19:55
[Applause]
00:20:00
that they didn't they didn't hide
00:20:03
Hillary Hillary did interviews right I
00:20:05
had this I had this conversation just
00:20:07
this morning you can say what you want
00:20:09
about Hillary Clinton but she is
00:20:11
incredibly competent yeah incredibly
00:20:14
competent she's competent and she could
00:20:17
have done the job how she did it and
00:20:19
with what level of honesty and
00:20:21
Corruption would be a different story
00:20:23
but I I really think the problem for KLA
00:20:26
Harris is she's not smart she's not a
00:20:28
deep thinker
00:20:29
she's very surface level yeah she's
00:20:31
giggling just like that all the
00:20:36
time
00:20:39
spicy Megan tell us how you feel really
00:20:42
be honest and it's a cover it's an
00:20:44
obvious cover right it's like she gets
00:20:46
to the point where she doesn't know what
00:20:47
she's saying even she doesn't know what
00:20:48
she's saying and it's
00:20:50
like and so you feel uncomfortable
00:20:53
watching her and then she gave her first
00:20:55
interview to CNN and suddenly if that's
00:20:57
drunk Comm suddenly we're dealing with
00:20:59
hungover comma like my values haven't
00:21:03
changed like clearly somebody had told
00:21:05
her you cackle we're out of here yeah
00:21:10
what did you think about her bringing
00:21:11
her emotional support white guy exactly
00:21:15
her emotional support Governor he was
00:21:16
her big white blankie like I it made no
00:21:18
sense like it seemed like a terrible
00:21:20
strategic decision like who's making the
00:21:22
decision to do that I agree I objected
00:21:24
to the whole thing I think he was there
00:21:25
for two two purposes uh one was yes in
00:21:29
case she got in real trouble he could
00:21:30
step in yeah and the other was to suck
00:21:34
up some of the air times so she had a
00:21:35
couple of fewer questions to answer what
00:21:38
did you think of the job just
00:21:39
broadcaster or broadcaster Dana Bash did
00:21:41
um because she she did ask some tough
00:21:42
questions she did probe a little bit no
00:21:44
not enough she did terribly
00:21:48
okay I mean I don't I don't think it was
00:21:50
particularly hard but but that was not a
00:21:52
good job okay explain why what would you
00:21:54
have done differently so many things go
00:21:56
back and listen to my podcast the day
00:21:57
after cuz I took it apart forensically
00:21:59
bit by give us the top three here there
00:22:01
where were the follow-up questions where
00:22:02
were the hard-hitting follow-ups when
00:22:04
she said her nonsense like specifically
00:22:07
how what exactly caused you to change
00:22:09
your mind walk me through the process
00:22:11
and hit her with all of them not just a
00:22:13
couple and Tim Walls grammar the grammar
00:22:17
excuse that's why he said he carried a
00:22:19
weapon into war it was his grammar what
00:22:23
kind of BS was that and no followup yeah
00:22:25
yes and honestly all taken was do you
00:22:28
really want our audience to believe you
00:22:30
said you took weapons into war as a
00:22:33
soldier Okay because every every actual
00:22:36
service Personnel knows you don't
00:22:37
exaggerate something like that that's
00:22:39
hollowed ground you don't say you went
00:22:41
into war when you didn't and he's
00:22:42
already on the hot seat for having said
00:22:44
you know he was a command sergeant major
00:22:46
and he he didn't retire such and so on
00:22:48
anyway all it would have taken was you
00:22:50
really want this audience to believe
00:22:51
that was a grammatical error is that
00:22:53
your story no that she none of that was
00:22:56
done and it was just irritating because
00:22:59
there's so much for kamla Harris to be
00:23:01
cross-examined on she just she went to
00:23:03
sleep I mean the follow and the followup
00:23:05
question is just such an easy thing to
00:23:08
do you don't even have to say it as
00:23:09
aggressively as you did you just say
00:23:10
Okay so to be clear let me repeat back
00:23:12
to you grammar is the reason you said
00:23:15
but let me tell you something let me
00:23:16
tell you something some aggression was
00:23:17
warranted this is the problem her her
00:23:20
timidity is part of the problem because
00:23:22
I I challenge anybody go back and look I
00:23:24
did an interview with Trump in
00:23:26
September we've been through a he and I
00:23:30
well yeah that's an interesting
00:23:32
relationship it's a very interesting
00:23:34
relationship and I saw him at a
00:23:36
turningpoint event the previous August
00:23:38
and I said I'd love to sit down with you
00:23:40
he said great I'll do it so we sat down
00:23:42
September of last year it was a great
00:23:44
interview it was challenging he was not
00:23:47
in love with
00:23:48
it good which part where I hammered him
00:23:51
on the legal stuff yeah it had a
00:23:53
crescendo and a de Crescendo like every
00:23:55
good interview should you know we
00:23:56
started up off with some stuff that he
00:23:58
would like Joe Biden's old how about
00:24:00
that and then you built you warmed him
00:24:02
up a classic strategy right so on on the
00:24:05
on the legal on the law fair so judge
00:24:07
meron just moved the sentencing date
00:24:10
from I guess it was supposed to be a few
00:24:11
days ago to November 18th it occurs to
00:24:13
me that's two weeks after the election
00:24:15
so if meron wants to send Trump to
00:24:18
prison but is afraid to do it now
00:24:21
because it'd be a huge backlash right
00:24:23
before the election seems to me that's
00:24:25
kind of what you do you set the date two
00:24:26
weeks after do you
00:24:29
I mean what's your take on that do you
00:24:30
thinked if Trump loses the election do
00:24:32
you think he's going to Rikers no I
00:24:34
don't you don't think so I think there's
00:24:35
a possibility Maran will sentence him
00:24:38
because this whole case which was about
00:24:40
him writing down something in a book no
00:24:43
one ever saw it was in a book that
00:24:44
stayed on the Shelf at Trump Tower
00:24:47
didn't have the right thing it didn't
00:24:49
say hush money to Stormy Daniels it said
00:24:52
Legal Services no one ever saw that just
00:24:56
someone came knocking because they
00:24:57
wanted to mess with Trump found it and
00:24:58
said this isn't recorded accurately it's
00:25:00
a fraud and he got prosecuted and I
00:25:04
think judge Maran and has allowed Alvin
00:25:06
brag to turn it into you tried to steal
00:25:09
the election because now guys I'm sorry
00:25:11
to tell you but if you ever want to run
00:25:13
for office you have an ethical
00:25:14
obligation to let any woman accusing you
00:25:17
of any bad stuff come forward and say it
00:25:19
to everyone and if she says I won't hurt
00:25:22
you publicly whether it's true or not if
00:25:24
you just give me $130,000 you may not
00:25:27
pay her or you going to go to jail so
00:25:29
you must let yourself be blackmailed let
00:25:31
someone say this stuff about you true or
00:25:33
not or you're going to prison that's how
00:25:36
that case was tried that is now the
00:25:38
position that every politician is in
00:25:40
theoretically I mean the the case made
00:25:42
sense as a misdemeanor but not as a
00:25:44
felony I think you would Age no sense it
00:25:46
as a misdemeanor the statute of
00:25:47
limitations had expired sure but I mean
00:25:49
it clearly was escalated to a point but
00:25:51
I wonder how you think as with family
00:25:53
members you know in the um uh you know
00:25:57
that are cops um how you look at the
00:25:59
other cases um and if you think there's
00:26:01
any validity to them because there are
00:26:02
five cases we're talking about he's
00:26:04
guilty of the first three so far out of
00:26:05
three some of them feel trumped up um
00:26:08
but what about the last two you know the
00:26:10
the documents and the January 6th one do
00:26:11
you think there's any validity to them
00:26:13
no no validity the only the only thing
00:26:15
that Trump was potentially in trouble on
00:26:17
and the thing I hit him on when we
00:26:18
interviewed was not turning over the
00:26:20
documents once he had a subpena which
00:26:22
would have been so easy to do yes which
00:26:24
was dumb but he's Trump he should have
00:26:26
he always does self-destructive stff
00:26:28
gone away now too because of Jack Smith
00:26:30
not being properly appointed down there
00:26:32
but in answer to your question on on
00:26:33
Judge michon I think um he he almost is
00:26:37
in a position where he might have to
00:26:38
sentence him to jail given how big
00:26:40
they've tried to make it you stole an
00:26:41
election you stole but it'll it would be
00:26:44
at a suspended sentence it would be
00:26:45
immediately appealed and I think Trump
00:26:48
on appeal will win there are so many
00:26:50
holes in that case so I don't think
00:26:51
Trump will ever do one single day in
00:26:53
jail so Megan if um we look at the five
00:26:56
cases you know six months from there a
00:26:57
year from now let's assume all five of
00:26:59
them go to trial um he's guilty of three
00:27:01
so far wait what do you what do you mean
00:27:03
he's guilty of three so far he's been
00:27:04
convicted of three sorry what do you
00:27:05
mean know he hasn't um the ell uh no EEG
00:27:10
EEG Carol was guilty that was not a
00:27:12
conviction that was a civil case well
00:27:14
yes so that's what I'm talking about so
00:27:15
that okay but there's a big difference
00:27:17
it's still he was convicted he was
00:27:18
guilty of that you got a settl um in
00:27:23
the yeah in the Trump organization
00:27:26
they're guilty there
00:27:28
liable liable yes of course but these
00:27:30
are the cases we're talking about and in
00:27:32
the third one you know she's a lawyer
00:27:34
right yeah of course and in the third
00:27:35
one I'm just talking about the five
00:27:37
cases yes some are civil obviously and
00:27:39
and some some are not some are criminal
00:27:41
but if we look at all you said three
00:27:42
convictions now you're walking it back
00:27:44
I'm not walking it back there's three in
00:27:45
which he was you should walk it back so
00:27:48
glad Megan is here the five three of
00:27:50
them he's either guilty or he got a bad
00:27:52
result yeah got a bad result there are
00:27:55
two more if he is found guilty of those
00:27:57
two more mag
00:27:58
um and five of five he had a bad result
00:28:02
um way to frame it um will will you
00:28:06
chalk all five up in your mind to five
00:28:08
different jurisdictions five different
00:28:10
prosecutors five different juries and or
00:28:12
judges all conspiring to get him 100%
00:28:17
okay yes that's all I wanted to hear
00:28:19
your answer to five of five five
00:28:22
different jurisdictions you think it's
00:28:24
Carol they they changed the law so that
00:28:25
she could bring a civil lawsuit against
00:28:26
him and she did New York Jury New York
00:28:28
went 87% for Joe Biden that that that
00:28:32
fix was in right from the start the
00:28:33
fraud trial that Leticia James brought
00:28:35
against him has never been brought
00:28:36
there's no victims the banks who were
00:28:38
involved said we didn't lose a penny
00:28:39
what are we doing here we weren't
00:28:40
damaged nobody was complaining except
00:28:42
Tish James who ran for office saying I
00:28:44
will get him then you have Alvin Bragg
00:28:47
who's a George Soros funded prosecutor
00:28:49
who doesn't like to prosecute any crime
00:28:50
in New York City where I live for 17
00:28:52
years except if your name is Donald
00:28:53
Trump let's go down to Georgia where
00:28:55
Fanny Willis and Nathan Wade couldn't
00:28:57
keep their libidos in Jack long enough
00:28:58
to actually bring this case against
00:29:00
Donald Trump it's a repeat of what was
00:29:03
happening in January 6th up in the case
00:29:05
with judge chuckin who loathes Trump and
00:29:07
has sentenced almost every j6 defendant
00:29:09
to way more jail time than their
00:29:11
counterparts would get those are falling
00:29:13
apart because of presidential immunity
00:29:14
which was handed down by the Supreme
00:29:15
Court who said you cannot bring a
00:29:18
criminal case against a sitting
00:29:19
president for any official act those
00:29:21
cases have have been gutted also a
00:29:23
Supreme Court ruling saying the same on
00:29:25
January 6 defendants in general and that
00:29:27
leaves us with Florida and the documents
00:29:29
and Trump has torn that apart because
00:29:31
Jack Smith wasn't properly appointed and
00:29:32
isn't the right Council but there are
00:29:34
other issues they haven't even gotten to
00:29:36
presidential immunity there and so that
00:29:39
one's going nowhere as well and by the
00:29:41
way they're going to peel it up to the
00:29:42
11 circuit she just threw it out the 11
00:29:44
circuit is conservative and thank God so
00:29:45
is the current Supreme Court they're not
00:29:47
going to tolerate that nonsense let me
00:29:48
ask you about
00:29:53
um I think let me I think J Cal I think
00:29:57
J Cal just lost lost his right to ever
00:29:59
bring up lawfare
00:30:00
again no we're we're done with your
00:30:03
it's over I didn't give we're
00:30:06
not here to hear my opinion I didn't
00:30:08
give my opinion I wanted me let let's um
00:30:11
the Democratic party and the Republican
00:30:13
Party 2028 post all of this okay um I
00:30:19
suspect because of your influence I I so
00:30:21
tell me if this is not even true but
00:30:23
upand cominging folks are probably
00:30:24
trying to meet you all the time because
00:30:26
they want to build a relation ship build
00:30:28
a rapport so that when it's time for
00:30:29
them to get you know interviewed or
00:30:32
whatever there's a so you must see a lot
00:30:34
of people just give us a state of
00:30:37
politicians post this current
00:30:40
batch what is the same I don't feel very
00:30:43
optimistic okay is it getting worse yeah
00:30:46
it's getting worse because of Instagram
00:30:47
and AOC that kind of
00:30:49
person yes her specifically but not just
00:30:52
her um I say more
00:30:56
they they want these are congressional
00:31:04
Kardashians can I tell you something my
00:31:07
experience in the news business dealing
00:31:09
with politicians leads me to believe
00:31:10
that the people in this room and on this
00:31:12
stage over your two-day conference are
00:31:14
the people we need to be looking to for
00:31:15
our future leaders and ideas and to save
00:31:18
the country it it's not Washington DC
00:31:21
all the incentives to be a good person
00:31:23
are gone it's not that there aren't any
00:31:25
good ones there there definitely are and
00:31:27
there's some you know true Patriots who
00:31:29
are still trying to serve and even who
00:31:31
are who are two people just on on either
00:31:33
side that you would just tell us to look
00:31:35
out for or even they are already doing
00:31:37
the job where you say these two people
00:31:39
are like good
00:31:43
people you should play the little
00:31:45
Jeopardy music right
00:31:47
now um no one's coming to mind off the
00:31:49
top of my head but I know that there are
00:31:51
some uh look I like Rand
00:31:55
Paul I think Rand Paul is a good andon
00:31:58
man don't run a giant deficit it's not a
00:32:00
bad I mean all of them lie so I'm not
00:32:02
trying to excuse all of that they all do
00:32:05
but if you watch people long enough you
00:32:08
find the ones that stand up for the
00:32:09
right issues and seem to have some
00:32:12
integrity that's one that comes to mind
00:32:14
I there used to be a day where they
00:32:17
where they would reach across the aisle
00:32:19
and they actually weren't just there for
00:32:21
clicks or to make themselves famous or
00:32:23
and those days are few and far between
00:32:26
now I just think with look I supported
00:32:29
the Supreme Court's decision in citizen
00:32:30
United and I think big money in politics
00:32:32
was always going to happen but it's
00:32:34
corrupted the system in a way that you
00:32:36
know most politicians only have to
00:32:38
answer to their one group of big donors
00:32:40
or their one small constituency and
00:32:42
their one very red or very blue town and
00:32:44
there's no more incentive to compromise
00:32:46
there's only incentive to get reelected
00:32:48
which is one of the frustrations we have
00:32:49
when we watch Washington nothing gets
00:32:51
done or size of relief in this Congress
00:32:55
where we watch Washington and nothing
00:32:57
gets done right right now I'm all about
00:33:00
going back to the original founding
00:33:02
version of this country where government
00:33:03
was as small as possible the presidency
00:33:05
was as small as possible and these
00:33:07
people do as little as humanly possible
00:33:10
while they're in I feel Megan I feel
00:33:11
like someone should do like a modernday
00:33:14
recap of the Federalist Papers like an
00:33:18
understanding of the basis of the
00:33:20
foundation of the Republic like were
00:33:22
what were the founding philosophies and
00:33:24
and then understanding how far astray
00:33:26
we've we've gone but let me ask you a
00:33:28
question what constitutional amendments
00:33:30
would you pass to fix the incentive
00:33:32
problems if you could have your brothers
00:33:33
pass any Constitutional Amendment or two
00:33:36
what would they be to address the
00:33:38
incentive issue that's causing a lot of
00:33:41
the integrity and misalignment I don't
00:33:42
think it it starts like that I think it
00:33:44
it is just like KLA Harris's Choice as
00:33:47
Biden's uh replacement it's bottom up
00:33:50
it's bottom up that's the LIE remember
00:33:52
they told us Chuck Schumer it's bottom
00:33:53
up we chose the people chose her
00:33:55
literally nobody's voted for her to be
00:33:57
the nomin
00:33:58
um I think this one does have to be
00:34:00
bottom up like if we're going to change
00:34:02
the way we elect politicians and the way
00:34:04
we govern ourselves you know we're so
00:34:07
it's so much more complex than just what
00:34:10
what laws are written down and you Tech
00:34:12
has a lot to do with it how divided we
00:34:14
are how disconnected we are how lonely
00:34:16
we are I mean right now the latest
00:34:20
strain of the argument is interesting
00:34:21
which is all the processed foods are
00:34:23
making us weird and unhealthy and dying
00:34:26
and and dividing people further because
00:34:29
it's driving our hormones nuts and our
00:34:30
behavior is getting weirder and obese
00:34:33
yeah and obesity so I mean there's just
00:34:35
a lot we need to reconsider about the
00:34:38
way we're living and I do think one of
00:34:40
the main things is we need to see each
00:34:41
other again we need to like look each at
00:34:43
each other in the eye across from the
00:34:45
table we need to ban our kids from
00:34:47
playing on the devices when they get
00:34:49
together for playd dates we must insist
00:34:51
that they play outside without any
00:34:53
devices and actually connect with nature
00:34:55
we must make sure that they do the same
00:34:57
we must get out of the coastal cities
00:34:59
and go to fly over country and go to a
00:35:02
rodeo in Montana something like that you
00:35:04
know I we all we have to start loving
00:35:07
our country again that's a huge piece of
00:35:09
it and that again is community you know
00:35:11
speaking of rodeo and Montana we went we
00:35:13
go out there we have a little ski cabin
00:35:15
there which we love and uh we went in
00:35:17
the summer brought our kids to a
00:35:19
rodeo they started playing the national
00:35:21
anthem and my little guy at the time was
00:35:22
like five and he was a little slow to
00:35:24
get up right like he knows to get up but
00:35:26
he was five and there's this old cowboy
00:35:30
sitting right behind us with the big hat
00:35:32
and the jeans and the belt and he goes
00:35:34
boy you better get on your feet and my
00:35:38
son was like oh yes sir that was me
00:35:41
but I was like right on that's great
00:35:43
right on that's what we need right like
00:35:45
more of that and more of looking out for
00:35:47
one another not with forced taxes and
00:35:49
through the eyeballs and all that
00:35:50
nonsense but like your neighbor's sick
00:35:53
go make him a casserole your old older
00:35:55
neighbor is housebound go m lawn that is
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the stuff that used to make us us and as
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we just Retreat into our devices and our
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television screens and all of it we lose
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that and we lose us all right well said
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ladies and gentlemen Megan
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Kelly thank you w standing out that was
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awesome really awesome
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