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Joe Biden and former president Donald
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Trump are set to face off on Thursday
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for the earliest presidential debate in
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modern history by like a lot usually
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it's September uh the debate hosted by
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CNN U moderated by Jake tappa Jake
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Tapper uh and Dana Bash uh be the first
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time uh Biden and Trump have gone
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head-to-head or have been in the same
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room since our last debate in October of
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2020 I don't think they like each other
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a Marist poll from last week shows a
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dead heat between the candidates and
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actually uh gliden was up a little bit
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he's been going up a little bit
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including a Fox News pole which is
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making uh president Trump Lo former
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president Trump lose his mind which is
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not very far to go um so let's talk
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about strategery Scott now here you are
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going into this debate I talked about a
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little bit on the Chris walls show this
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week but um what is the strategery just
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for some more background RFK Jr did not
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make the cut for the debate falling
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short in ballot qualification and
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polling he's making a lot of noise the
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debate rules just for people to know and
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then I love your thoughts on this no
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live audience no prop allow on stage
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microphones will be muted when it's not
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a candidate's turn to speak I believe
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they have two minutes Biden won the coin
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toss and selected his Podium position on
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the right side of the screen Trump then
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chose to have the last word uh in
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closing statements um so so what do we
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think give me a give me a what Biden
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should this is the question we asked on
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Chris Wall I that it was a good one does
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this does this setup help which one from
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if you are the marketing guy here
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figuring out sort of the Optics of it
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which one do you think this set helps oh
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it's total team Biden in terms of
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Advantage interesting uh Trump is so
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quick and outrageous on his feet and so
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plays to the crowd and tickles people's
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sensors and all all that him constantly
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interrupting people it just throws the
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other person off you know off-kilter so
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them shutting off the mic is totally
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advantageous to Biden there would be
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some crazy I think Democrats tend to be
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a little bit more civil than maybe Maga
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people he's not going to show up with a
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bunch of people who've ACC I mean do you
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remember the
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[ __ ] Clint Clinton so he creates a
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sideshow in a carnival which throws the
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other person off their feet and the
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strategy here is really simple okay
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let's talk about the economy I wouldn't
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I wouldn't I wouldn't go to all right
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let me get what is the one thing Biden
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should avoid and one thing he should
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lean into and what is the one thing
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Trump should avoid and lean into um if I
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were if if I were um if I were Biden I
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would stay away from the Trump court
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cases I think that people will go there
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on their own and um I don't think he I
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think he wants to talk about the economy
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and bodily autonomy and how he is he is
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actually taking action against
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immigration I would go very very almost
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conservative and hard right on
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immigration and say now if the
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Republicans would only help me solve the
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crisis at the border and I would talk
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about the economy I would talk about
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numbers I would be very kind of adult
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almost like an economist and I would
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would end the debate with the following
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awkward pause my last question to our
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viewers tonight after thinking CNN is do
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you have daughters and I would just
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leave the air empty for a few
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seconds very good I like that he many
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people think he should not you know how
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Reagan did that fantastic uh rejoiner
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but I'm not going to let my age take
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advantage he's not witty like that and
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so he should he have a joke in his
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pocket though about his
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age Trump goes there because Trump's got
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some COG of dingy dongs happening
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constantly now yeah I mean he should
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have a couple he should have prepackaged
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two or three when someone brings up age
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you should come up with you know say
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look look we're we're you know we're
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we're both probably consumers of
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catheters I I would make jokes that to
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remind everybody that the guy across
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this the stage from me is also really
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[ __ ] old folks so yeah you hate us
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both whatever whatever you want to talk
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about but him not having a hot mic um if
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I were if I were um and if I were Trump
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I would talk a lot about what's happened
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on universities when Democrats take over
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institutions and what's happened in
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democratically controlled cities that's
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where I would focus if I were if I were
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uh if I were Trump chaos crime and Chaos
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sort of the Nixon kind of thing well the
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most Dem I mean the arguments they
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should make and this is what media they
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should roll every day is this is what
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happens when democratically controlled
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leadership takes over an institution
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look at what's happened to our Elite
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universities this is what happens when
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Democrats get control of a city even if
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if it has a ton of money this is what
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happens is it is it okay go downtown San
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Francisco is this what you want the
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country to be I realize that's not fair
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I realize you love San Francisco that is
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just from a perception standpoint you're
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coming with me there okay yeah go ahead
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it's Chang but go ahead I agree I live
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there it may be wonderful I'm just
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talking pure perception people yeah I
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got people who've never been there for
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some reason think it's a hellscape right
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now unfairly or fairly and also to be
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fair like Portland and Seattle are
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really I have been to those cities
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recently they've changed a lot they have
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they have I agree with you so so one of
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the things that what should Trump not do
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because one some people think he will be
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calmer where and he can't be jacked up
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that's the thing and so he'll be the if
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you recall the first debate with Biden
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and this is a long time ago he was you
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know cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs really you
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know stand back and stand by
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interruptive crazy and all Biden had to
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say is come on man you know he kept
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doing and Biden sort of won that debate
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the second one it looked like he was
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druged and calmer so what some people
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think no live audience no props
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microphones muted will make him into
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reasonable
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Trump so yeah I don't I don't know I
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mean that I would never advise it's like
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Michael Michael Jackson used to show up
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with one glove and grab his crotch I
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don't think any amount of prep would
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have told him to do it and yet it was
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genius at the time you're like okay it
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works for
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him I don't know how to advise Trump
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because every piece of advice I would
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have would be try and act more sane
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because that's people's fear around you
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and try not to be all over the place try
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and focus on try and come across as
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people you want to look at points of
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Distinction and then press on those
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points of Distinction the the reason
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Biden will if Biden loses this election
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it'll be because of the following the
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people see him is too feeble to be
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commanderin-chief that is the only
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reason he will lose yep and so you want
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to press on that and so Trump wants to
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come across as distinctly more robust
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and young and part of that is cognitive
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capability so if I Was preparing Trump I
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would say you need to have command of
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the of the issues you need to come
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across as somewhat sane you need to come
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across as youthful and vigorous laugh
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poke fun of yourself and have real
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command of the data you need to you need
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to draw sharp relief between you and the
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old man that's what my advice to be yeah
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the problem is like everywhere he goes
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he's he's missing words now he's doing a
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lot of stuff and obviously has a family
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history this but um of dementia but one
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of the things that I think is
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problematic and I I spoke to a lot of
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people in that CEO Summit they were surp
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now look they're going to back Trump
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because it's good for them in tax cuts
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let me just say and someone who was
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there saying they thought he was crazy
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they're still going to back him right um
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he was losing words he was going off on
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tangents this was a crowd that was
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welcoming to him um this CEO group uh
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the business round table and um and were
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was willing to like Overlook the
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Insurrection kind of stuff for for a tax
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cut
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and I talked to a number of people who
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are like whoa like whoa like that kind
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of thing so I think that's where he I
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don't know how much he has control over
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that or is willing to do that I think
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one of the things he cannot do is talk
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about losing the election that's it was
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stolen a great he cannot he cannot Look
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Backwards but he can't get off of that I
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you stole the election you stole the
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election that thing is if he does that
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it's an opportunity animates him yeah if
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he does that
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if he does that it's a huge opportunity
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for Biden Biden needs to be ready to go
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and go okay 43 cases zero credibility
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you know just XY Z what's the difference
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between every what's the difference
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between us and every other Nation we we
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have people who can see all you know
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Biden has to be ready to really like
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drive a train through that I think Trump
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can't help it I everything he and then
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the other thing he's saying the last
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thing I'd say is he's all saying that
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Biden's getting a shot in the ass which
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means Trump is getting a shot in the ass
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right like every he says I'm like oh
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that's what you're doing like that he's
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getting special drugs I mean Trump looks
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like he's taking every drug in town like
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it feel like a zic it looks like he's
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Biden needs to practice the age-old
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adage about being interviewed don't
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answer the question they ask answer the
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question you want to ask at some point
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he needs to say the following Trump
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threatened to tried to ban Tik Tok and
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carve it up we have actually banned it
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or investing it with a plan that will
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pass Muster that makes sense Biden
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constantly you know uh you know Trump
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talks about safety in the Middle East we
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sent two aircraft carriers over there
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and we are we have we have so far
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sequestered this from becoming a more
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regional conflict he needs to say okay
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Trump talks a big game but we actually
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we actually you know we have some
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overlap here you agreed you thought Tik
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Tok was a national threat I want to give
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you credibility for it we've actually
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done something about it you talk a big
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game about being an ally to Israel we're
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actually the real Ally here one of us
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has has deployed an aircraft carrier
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there right yeah you know yeah I think
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that's true I think one of the
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interesting things going into is the
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money raising now Trump is they thought
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this would happen but he's raised 141
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million in May Biden raised 85 million
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um he was way ahead Biden um 53 million
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came in from pump 24 hours after the
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hush money verdict of course he's really
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done very well by being a felon um
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there's also uh I think that'll
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ultimately even out and depends on where
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they spend it I don't know what else to
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say I don't think there's going to be a
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big deficit between them um Trump VP uh
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speculation he's making a circus of it
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he revealed this weekend he knows whose
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pick will be although he hasn't told the
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person yet the future BP canid will most
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likely be at the debate according to
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Trump um top contenders JD Vance Marco
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Rubio Tim Scott I think I've settled on
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bergham at this point you know he's
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managing to carry the water for him and
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seems not as nuts as the others I think
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he doesn't like Marco Rubio I think he
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thinks JD Vance will take attention from
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him Tim Scott looks like a Toady so so
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much so so it's suspect it's bergam
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South Dakota governor Christin n appears
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to be out of the running she indicated
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on Meet the Press formally P yeah no he
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doesn't he does that makes sense he
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doesn't have any pets that makes sense
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um so uh so any just make a guess and
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then I'll ask you a last question well I
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don't know I I think it's probably going
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to be Bergen but just one last thing if
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I were on the Trump team sure I would
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hammer over and over I just to be snarky
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I would go I would go 100% I'd be like
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well president har and he's like you
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better get used to that if he really
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wants to go gangster he'd say the
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following you're not voting for Joe
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Biden you're voting for president Harris
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just wrap your head around that because
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she's deeply
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unpopular yeah I think you're right I
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hate to say it but I think that would
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work really well we'll see if he comes
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up with it uh Meanwhile we're still
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waiting for the Supreme Court's decision
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on the Trump immunity case what in the
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world are they doing over there at the
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Supreme Court the next batch of opinions
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will be released on Wednesday they've
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got a lot to go and they've got a very
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short term to do it in uh the day before
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the debates we get a decision then um
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the immunity decision I think they're
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probably like wrangling over it right I
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think alito's been hurt probably with
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the flag
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situation um but uh in terms of power
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but I suspect they're trying to come I
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have this feeling that Amy con Barrett's
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just not going along with the boys at
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this point on this kind of thing but who
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knows um she seems to have formed
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relationships with the other women on
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the court which is interesting um what
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do you think of this not on abortion
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obviously but um what do you think do
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this affect it I think that's wishful
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thinking that she's siding with I know I
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know but lately she has been I don't
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know it's just interesting yeah I think
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she's gotten uh hanging around other
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people and she's so smart like let's be
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honest she Godly or not she's as Smart
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Sharp As a attack schol um it'll be I I
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don't know I just think it's she's
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probably with the uh judge Jackson who's
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also oh Jesus what a brain um I suspect
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that's the thing that appeals to her
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even religious gals who are brainy love
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the brainy part more than anything
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ultimately I don't know that's my
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wishful thinking is that they're all
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having like their like hanging and and
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and squatting up or something by the way
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you said something that struck so try
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and clear your mind and just first
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answer uh Biden
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Harris Trump
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Bergen or Tapper bash who would you
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rather be president and vice president
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seriously Dana Bash are you kidding I
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think Dana's fantastic I think Jake is
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fantastic if I'm not I'm not
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exaggerating who would you think would
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do a better job younger probably I I if
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if if and maybe I'm being sexist because
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I immediately thought of Jake Tapper as
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the president and Dana as number two
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looks like but quite frankly I think
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they're both super impressive thoughtful
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people who know how
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to Jake Cher for president if if they
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were on the ticket like that they were
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on the ticket yeah uh that they got my
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vote that those are the two I vote for
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Cuban I told those two should be on
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stage not asking the questions I want
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cubes to run he'll be in the race for
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2028 when he starts bragging about
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paying his taxes he's clearly
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positioning himself for a run and I hope
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he runs he's very articulate about all
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kind super smart super impressive guy
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yeah probably what 2028 unless Trump
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wins and ruins democracy will be really
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interesting on both parties it'll be
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really it change it'll change year uh
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and maybe we'll all be a little better
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who knows
