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Elon vs. Trump: The Battle Goes On | Pivot

June 19, 2025 / 01:44

This episode covers the tensions between Donald Trump and Elon Musk, the White House's scrutiny of SpaceX contracts, and the implications of political endorsements.

The discussion highlights the White House's directive to the Defense Department of NASA regarding SpaceX's contracts, emphasizing concerns over having one individual wield too much power.

Trump's comments on Musk's endorsement reveal a complicated relationship, with Trump expressing surprise at Musk's support despite their differing views on policies like the EV mandate.

The conversation also touches on the potential consequences Musk faces from Trump, suggesting that Musk's influence may be challenged by political pressures.

Overall, the episode presents a critical view of the intertwining of business and politics, particularly in the context of SpaceX and its leadership.

TL;DR

Tensions rise as Trump and Musk's political relationship is scrutinized amid SpaceX contract controversies.

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The girls were fighting, by which I mean
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Donald and Elon. The White House
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directed the Defense Department of NASA
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to gather in details on billions in
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contracts with SpaceX. And they should.
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This is a good thing. You shouldn't have
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one person running things. The Panther
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is reportedly thinking about scaling
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back SpaceX involvement in the Golden
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Dome, which is this protective shield,
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whatever the heck thing. Meanwhile,
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President Trump said he was amazed Elon
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ever endorsed him. He never had a
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problem. You know, it's very
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interesting. This was this is not
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something new. This has been there from
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day one, speaker, right? we're going to
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abolish the EV mandate. And Elon still
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endorsed me because honestly, he never
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ever spoke to me about that. So strange.
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They still honestly should just [ __ ] and
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get stopped. I mean, obviously Elon's
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under threat by Trump. Who knows if
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he'll ever carry through? I think it's
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pretty obvious what's happened here.
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Elon got the president elected or at
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least played a major role in his
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election. was comfortable usurping
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congressional power and the power of the
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person making not even administrative
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suggestions around cutting costs or
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trying to root out waste and fraud but
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making political decisions. And people
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in the White House got sick of an
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unelected co-president and then to his
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quarter of a billion followers accused
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the president of being a sex criminal.
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And then what hasn't been reported but I
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believe will be reported because it
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seems fairly obvious to me is somebody
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whether it was speaker Johnson or a
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gobetween Peter Teal I don't know who
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called Musk and said okay I don't think
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you realize who you're [ __ ] with.
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Somebody called him and said listen
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[ __ ] you [ __ ] with the wrong cowboy.
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He's got the biggest badge in town and
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he can literally put you out of business
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and deport you. I think Trump is going
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to just put him put baby in the corner.
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He already has.
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Episode Highlights

  • The Unelected Co-President
    Elon Musk's influence in politics raises questions about power dynamics in the White House.
    “This is a good thing. You shouldn't have one person running things.”
    @ 00m 09s
    June 19, 2025
  • Elon and Trump: A Complicated Relationship
    President Trump expressed amazement at Elon's endorsement, highlighting their complex ties.
    “So strange. Elon got the president elected or at least played a major role.”
    @ 00m 50s
    June 19, 2025

Episode Quotes

Key Moments

  • Power Dynamics00:09
  • Political Tensions00:50
  • Cowboy Metaphor01:26

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