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so we're talking about one of your
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favorite people and his latest lawsuit X
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filed a federal antitrust lawsuit
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against the World Federation of
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advertisers so that group has a brand
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safety initiative and this lawsuit
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alleges that the brand safety initiative
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and big companies that are members CVS
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Unilever big guys here conspired to
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illegally conspired to illegally boycot
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X and deprive it of millions of dollars
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Now remind us Cara for those of us who
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have forgotten why did advertisers f x
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well it's easy he told them not to
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advertise on his site he told them to go
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[ __ ] themselves he told them he's going
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to let you know he's creating this
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lovely Nazi porn bar as I like to call
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it um I it's an astonishing lawsuit and
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of course it was introduced by you know
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if you want to continue with Nazis the
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Eva braa of this situation um uh Linda
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Yaro who um who just did this weird
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hostage like video where she she's such
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a scold as a person um and let me just
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say she we had a set to when we at our
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conference our code conference last year
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which she utterly made up that we had
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sandbagged her she just did a terrible
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performance and I've never seen someone
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act so Prof unprofessionally at a
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conference as her over the years so let
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me just put that out there um she she
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threw a fit because she didn't like who
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we had on stage before her which of
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course is that's exactly what a CEO does
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um anyway it was introduced this idea
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that
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the idea is that advertisers are
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plotting against them they're
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conspiracy-minded people and she has a
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situation where she's the the purported
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I call her CEO in name only Soo um she
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uh she she thinks that people have to
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advertise on their site even if they
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don't like what they're doing on their
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site and it's so anti- capitalist it's
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so ridiculous this whole case these this
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guy went out of his way to tell
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advertisers to go [ __ ] themselves a
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number not just once but a dozen times
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essentially and now he doesn't like what
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he's reaping what which is that he took
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away safety he took away he rep platform
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all these terrible people um you know
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and then of course he's doing it in the
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name of Free Speech but then he cuts the
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speech of people he doesn't like by the
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way he's he's apparently suppressing
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kamla Harris's stuff um right now on the
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site he closed down the dudes for kamla
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Harris for a second did he um you know
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he just this is just endless [ __ ] by
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these people but it's base if
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advertisers don't want to advertise on
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your shitty platform they shouldn't be
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made to and even if they get together
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and say isn't it a shitty platform it
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doesn't mean it's illegal it's just God
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this is a shitty platform and Linda Yer
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who worked for NBC would have understood
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this rather easily I don't want to
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advertise where it's unsafe where I'm
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going to suddenly be next to Andrew Tate
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or whoever it happens to be it's just
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this is just [ __ ] nonsense it's just
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um he posted also of course because he's
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such a conspiracy minded person we tried
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peace for 2 years now it's War well if
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that was peace I can't wait for the war
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what is this reference I'm I'm actually
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really curious about this has has he
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done Outreach advertisers like what no
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every time he does it he shows up like
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this was you know at this dealbook
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Summit last year he told advertisers to
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[ __ ] off including specifically Disney
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specifically Bob Iger um you know he
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essentially said [ __ ] you Bob um uh and
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uh I don't know why would they would
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advertise it's like it's not legal not
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to Advertiser especially after you've
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made a made it a joke that you you want
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to do this and a former FTC policy
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director told R st in the lwuit it's a
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hideous joke and Elon is engaging in a
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fantasy world of antitrust you know we
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just had a really important Anti-Trust
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decision around Google but this isn't
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antitrust uh in any way but but what do
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so very curious about this let's get
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inside his head for a second it doesn't
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seem like antitrust it is still a
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lawsuit does he think Does Elon think
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there is an antitrust wave to be written
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here that perhaps a judge will find this
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sympathetic like what is he trying to do
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they have they have court shopped right
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they're putting it in this court where
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this other lawsuit is going on against I
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think it's Media Matters where they they
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just were reporting that it's un more
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unsafe than ever on T Twitter which
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anyone who uses it I don't use it
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anymore because it's unsafe it's a case
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which is expensive to Media Matters
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probably put it out of business he sued
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open Ai and then he unsued them and now
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he's suing them again um he sued another
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group uh that Bera Kaplan actually who
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did the egene Carol Case uh was
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dismissed you know he this is his this
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is his his love language his lawsuits
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right um or is he winning anything like
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is he is he winning anything tangible no
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no but this judge is is predisposed to
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it they judge shopped essentially where
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they're putting this thing and so he's
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just it doesn't matter look this is the
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this is a tactic that Peter teal uses
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like let's just sue them and so they you
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know it's expensive it's it's ridiculous
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it's um they may maybe they'll give in
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it guess who does this Donald Trump
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let's not pay them let them sue us and
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then maybe we'll pay less and I think
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this is his tactic and you know one of
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the things that's important here is
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years ago when someone was talking about
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a lawsuit and I I called them and they
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said they think they're going to shame
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you and he and the guy goes well I'm
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Shameless so that's going to be a
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problem and this guy is Shameless that's
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all um you know he's they've been trying
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to do this idea around with
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Representatives like Jim Jordan around
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advertising that these that that they're
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anti-conservative
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bias um and again this this this this a
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Texas judge I think it is who's doing
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this um so that's what they're trying to
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do is is is Judge shop and put it in a
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place where at least it doesn't go away
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can we can we just briefly you know
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Lindy Yaro you've met her the video in
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which Lindy Yaro announces this lawsuit
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is is deeply strange yes right
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she's she's walleyed she looks nervous
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she's using big expressive hand gestures
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are we to what are we to make of this
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why does she look if she's fully on
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board maybe she's not why does it look
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like a hostage video like what's what's
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going on look she's just a terrible
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she's a terrible terrible um uh
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Communicator she was a sort of a lower
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she's not a lower level executive she
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was a head of advertising at NBC but
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they didn't want to make her CEO at NBC
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there was she thought she should be in
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when when one of the you know one of the
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various and sunry people left she
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thought she should be CEO they would had
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no interest in her CEO and then she went
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out and tried to get this job at Twitter
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which I actually broke the news of which
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is interesting huh um but um you know
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she she Styles herself as a CEO and
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she's DEC I guess she took CEO classes
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and decided tough lady thing you know
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it's just pathetic because there's so
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few women CEOs she's so bad at it it's
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embarrassing this is what I wrote on on
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threads the truth is Linda is a tiresome
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scold of an executive with an alleged uh
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rep for yelling at minions according to
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numerous sources at act she's a she
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that's what a lot of people tell me she
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certainly threw a loud fit at one of my
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events and I talked about that um but
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she's I call her an epic corporate
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laughing stock and a v vaguely
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depressing Lackey I think she's all in
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for for Elon she's she's a conservative
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which is great but she's one of those
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conservatives right like cannot
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entertain anybody that thinks he's a
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jerk right or anything like that and so
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um she's unrealistic and ambitious and
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um you know and so she's going to she
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goes along with them she's closed the
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San Francisco office she lost you know a
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number of people who worked for her a
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long time have laughed or had been fired
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by her and she's all in with Elon so
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she's not a hostage in any way I was
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teasing when I said it looks like a
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hostage video it's not but it does I
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mean like yes you were joking you know
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her to me somebody who doesn't know her
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it actually does yeah it does look like
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that I I hope someday you know I can't
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say I liked her a lot CU she's sort of
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this tough ad lady I call her an ad lady
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from Queens which annoys her which I
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think I'll do it again um tough adly I
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suspect 10 years she'll call me and say
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that was so bad I'm so sorry like you
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know maybe but maybe not you know I
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think she really believes in this guy
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you know and she's getting a bill of
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goods and this is her big moment she's
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getting paid she's hoping to get paid a
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lot I'll tell you something she's going
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to it's going to end up the same place
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everyone who works for him ends up which
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is in a lawsuit right or some or some
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fight um you know she she's a Believer I
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she's she believes this and this is what
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she imagines a tough lady CEO looks like
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or a tough CEO looks like and instead
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she she looks like a clown as once again
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and again and again as she did on stage
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a code she looked like a clown she was
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unprepared kind of vaguely weird strange
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affects things like that I find her
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irrita um you said they're
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conspiracy-minded they there's an they
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they think that everybody's against them
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this is interesting that is that is an
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that is a good reason to sue if you
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think think everybody's out to get you
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get it in court and prove it um did you
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see what Elon is doing in the UK that's
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dangerous that's actually dangerous he's
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also doing it here with a lot of like he
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has packs here that are doing things
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that are being investigated no he's got
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his little fingers in everything
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including saving people at the space
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station this guy is a dangerous
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character and what he's doing in Britain
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where he um he's been criticizing um the
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Prime Minister the new prime minister um
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following this terrible stabbing attack
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and but he's been pushing misinformation
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about who did it and he's he's putting
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out you know this he just had to take
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one down today but what he did he posted
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Civil War is inevitable he's creating
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all kinds of misinformation and so and
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he's platformed a lot of these people
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who are organizing all these violent
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protests they seem to be stemming the
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tide because regular people came out and
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said that's enough right essentially
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that's right um but last night there was
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a worry that it was going to explode
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again and then it didn't we did a story
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on this we got a an uh an email from the
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guardian reporter and she had told us um
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you know she hangs up the phone I'm on
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way way out to the protest and she said
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it didn't happen so right it didn't I
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mean these things tend to they do tend
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to burn themselves up but these are
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dangerous people who who thrive on
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violence right and so you know he's I I
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I can't believe I'm saying this but he's
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like trying to be Rupert Murdoch except
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rbert Murdoch is controlled about how he
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decimates Society you know what I mean
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like he's like a violent I mean the the
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the pushing of violence saying civil
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arresting is inevitable putting out
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incorrect memes platforming people who
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are lying creating all kinds of fake
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videos it's very dangerous and you could
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it's just a little taste of what he was
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going to do here in this country if he
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has the ability he's already putting out
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K har as a communist and you know all
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kinds of stuff I mean he's a dangerous
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person absolutely how much influence how
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much influence all right I was thinking
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about this we did the story we learned
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that a lot of the young men in the UK
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that are in the streets are kind of like
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angry about immigration Loosely
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Affiliated maybe far right maybe just
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kind of pissed off and and what what I
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likees to fight what I wonder is does
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what is the moment when Elon Musk and
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this crap loses credibility with them
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you can't say Civil War all right hear
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me out Civil War is inevitable Civil War
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doesn't happen do we wake up then and
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say oh that guy was wrong that guy's
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repeatedly wrong I don't believe him any
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welcome to this person he's interviewing
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on Monday Donald Trump no we don't right
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no yeah like you know it's interesting
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some a friend of mine was working on a
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story about a a sexual harassment things
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around someone and they were asking if
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you know if people at the company were
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concerned about it and I said can I try
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to get something through to you they
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don't care they don't care like nobody
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the people who are for Trump do not care
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that he's racist they do not car as
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misogynist they don't care and that I
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think is something you have to get your
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head around the same thing with with
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Elon these people who follow him he's
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accountable to know's the richest person
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in the world and this is something UK's
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technology Minister said he's
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accountable to no one and he controls
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very in this case both of them could
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control very important things right and
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so um you know no I think people who
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follow him like him um and they don't go
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oh look he was wrong again look he was
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wrong again look he was you know look he
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was remember he was backing Dan santis
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and then he was backing RFK Jun then he
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was you know been wrong frequently it
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just doesn't they don't they drop one of
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the strengths of misinformation is when
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you have a piece of misinformation and
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it doesn't turn out to be true you move
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to the next one right you don't stay
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here and go oh you don't have a
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contemplation
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situation um and I let me tell you and
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then we move on The Last Story um years
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I started talking about my mom but I did
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an interview with Hillary Clinton and a
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couple days later my mom called me and
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she goes she goes oh Hillary Clinton's
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saying terrible things about people like
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and I'm like what what did they what is
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she saying now and she started repeating
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things I'm like well that sounds like my
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interview but that's not what I what she
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said right it was completely it was a
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complete um mutation of what she said
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like a very vicious one and I said no no
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that was my interview she didn't say
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that and my mother said oh she said it
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and I was like no she didn't she said it
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to me I'm your daughter and I did the
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interview she did not say that no you're
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wrong she said it this was a
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conversation I had so I said said why
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don't you go back and listen to the
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interview and then call me back and she
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listened to it and she called me back
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she was okay she didn't say it but let
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me talk about the emails like she moved
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like the fact that she was wrong was not
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something that mattered so I think
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that's what's happening on to the next
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on to the next on to the next yeah and
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then Elon keeps up the bread and
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circuses with them right so now yeah
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he'll be on to something new by next
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week right trans people his daughter is
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giving him a to giving him a lesson in
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Social saw that she's terrific she's
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really good she it's interesting because
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her sense of humor is not like the way
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has used to be which was she's very
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clever she's have you met her I long
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time ago when okay long long long time
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ago with when they were young kids but
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um no not recently not recently um but
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you know she's she's she's killing it on
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social media I have to say because she's
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sick of her father putting stuff out
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about her in her life that isn't true
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yeah and has apparently decided that's
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enough I've had enough of you and taking
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stealing my narrative which I think is
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great
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okay Noel let's pivot to a listener
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question this question came in via email
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I'll read it given vice president given
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VP Harris's instant success on the Tik
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Tok platform I'm curious what you both
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think will happen at Tik Tok should VP
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Harris win the presidency how will this
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influence the congress's position on Tik
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Tok thanks Ian from Chicago PS love the
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show um just for clarification last week
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spokesperson for haris said the VP has
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said before we don't want to ban Tik Tok
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we just just like to see a change in
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ownership now of course that's the
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situation which Congress passed which it
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will ban Tik Tok if it doesn't have a
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change of ownership so she's for Banning
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tiktock I guess it's kind of a little
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word play there but your
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thoughts I don't think anything's going
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to change
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because Tik Tok is powerful I get it I
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don't think kamla Harris is going to
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change any of her positions because a
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lot of people made memes about her I
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don't think that changes her mind at all
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um I think it she probably thinks it's
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great if it helps her win an election
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but don't I don't I don't see a link
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here I don't see a link yeah I think
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she's not going to I think Congress has
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passed this law we'll see where it goes
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there'll be a probably be a change of
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ownership we'll see what the Chinese
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government does um but I suspect knowing
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her a little bit she is a a lawyer at
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heart right she's a litigator um and she
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probably does understand this better
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than Biden ever could like that the that
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the that the Constitutional issues are
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quite significant here in terms of
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banning this thing um and it may not
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ever go anywhere so I I think she knows
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a little bit more about where it's
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headed secondly uh probably in terms of
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National Security she probably has more
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heft in that regard so as with a lot of
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things with Harris and I'd love your
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comment is is she seems to be trying to
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go right down the metal on everything
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like whether it was now fracking or or
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Gaza or whatever she seems to be trying
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to take a very modulated position I
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think she'll do that here what about you
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yeah yeah I think she's I think she has
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to I mean the the critique is going to
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be she's a wild-eyed lefty look at her
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positions in the 2020 Campaign which did
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not go well for her and so her moving
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more into the center absolutely makes a
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lot of sense to me she wants to win an
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election she is not she is not trying to
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distinguish herself from a Joe Biden and
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a Betto work whoever the heck I can't it
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was four years ago I can't remember but
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there were so many of them she's not
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trying to distinguish herself from all
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those guys and gals this time she's
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trying to win an election and moderating
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is a way to do that yeah I I have to
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tell you having covered having known her
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since she was district attorney in San
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Francisco even before she was running
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for that no kidding yeah um when she was
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a local prosecutor for San Francisco
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she's very conservative and I've always
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found her a modulating person I think
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that 2020 thing was a little she's
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always seems to find the center even
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with I used to argue with her about
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internet stuff I'm like you could be a
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little tougher but she's always like on
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one hand on the other she's a little
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more I I've never found to be w i I know
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a lot of liberals from San Francisco and
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she wasn't she I wouldn't have put her
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in that bucket in any way she she loved
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the tech Moguls she she wasn't like
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hostile to them she was she was critical
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but not hostile you know I don't I think
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it's kind of a lie that she's crazy
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liberal because she's not I don't know
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we'll see but she 2020 she certainly
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definitely went down that road
