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this time on Killer caught on
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camera in Florida a woman goes missing
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after asking her friend to look after
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some money I knew how she felt about her
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son Drake that she loved him with all of
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her heart and she never would have just
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left him like that I love
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you and in the north of England a night
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in with friends but one of the guests
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proves
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deadly she was snuggling up to him she
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even was said to have looked like she
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found him quite
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attractive just Sly something bad is
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happening to her we know what happened
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because the video tells us what happened
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I heard some gunot drop it whatever it
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is that does not prove that I killed my
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wife the camera doesn't Li hi
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hi United States Jacksonville North
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Carolina a young Community with a large
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number of people in the armed
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forces it was home to 33-year-old Taylor
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Wright and friend Vanessa
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Smith we both worked at Jacksonville
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Police Department together she loved
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being a police officer she was happy to
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come to work she was happy to putle the
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uni for she was happy to go out there
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and catch the bad guys and she would
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just she would do really good
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work Vanessa and Taylor both had
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husbands in the
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military okay we're getting ready to
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start the
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engine being a military wife can be
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difficult especially when your husbands
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deploy a lot we were each other's Rock
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when we needed it it was like a sisterly
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friendship Taylor and her husband Jeff
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had had a son named
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Drake Taylor was amazing as a mom it was
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fun to see Taylor transition from like
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this big bad cop to now this mother roll
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oh no no no no don't use this hand hold
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it okay you P you won the wish now you
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have to make a
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wish did you make your wish okay give me
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a
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kiss I love you there your typical
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family we hung out with them we went to
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dinner with them we go over to their
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house a
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lot she was a part of the family she was
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a
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sister in 2015 Taylor and Jeff divorced
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and Jeff eventually took custody of
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their son two years later
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Taylor moved 8800 miles away to start a
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new life in Pensacola
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Florida Taylor started working as a
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private investigator and at the same
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time applied for a job at Pensacola
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Police
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Department she made new friends and
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began a romantic relationship with a
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woman who she moved in
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with life was settling down again but in
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September 2017
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just a few months after moving to
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Pensacola Taylor
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disappeared her girlfriend at the time
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sent me a Facebook message and asking if
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I had heard from Taylor if she was
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missing it was a shock because that
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wasn't anything like her she loved her
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son she loved him endlessly and she
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would have never just gone and left him
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didn't make
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sense Taylor was reported missing by her
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girlfriend Cassandra
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Waller Richard gigliotti was a detective
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for the Pensacola Police
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Department the officer initially
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responded to this said she's an adult if
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she wants
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to take some time off or take some time
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away she's more than welcome to do so
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some time I went by I want to say close
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to a week or so the same reporting
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person Cassandra Waller come to the
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station said that she still hadn't seen
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Taylor Wright still hadn't heard from
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her and was growing a little more
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concerned as well as not returning home
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to Cassandra Taylor also failed to make
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any phone calls to her son who she
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usually spoke with every evening I knew
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how she felt about her son Drake that
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she loved him with all of her heart and
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she never would have just left him like
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that Taylor was building a new life in
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Pensacola despite the distance from her
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old life and her child things seemed to
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be going well you have a mother who
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consistently calls her child now
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suddenly not she has an application into
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to work at a police department she
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wanted to just disappear why are you
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applying for jobs
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careers something was more than just a
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missing person's
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case the police needed to speak to
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anyone who might have information about
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Taylor detective Chad willite was
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assigned to the
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case well we investiga a Miss iners case
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um the first person that we're going to
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talk to would be the reporting person
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which would be Cassandra Waller in this
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case the last day that y'all were
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together can you kind of walk me through
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that day she made me breakfast she made
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me like eggs and bacon and stuff and she
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was in no worry for anything you know
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just like the M
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moment despite a few relationship issues
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and some erratic behavior all was well
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but her girlfriend received a message
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later that day that was out of
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character Cassandra didn't hear from
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Taylor again and she didn't return
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home Bridget Meers Jensen is the
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assistant State
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Attorney initially when someone goes
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missing I think everyone is a suspect so
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in this particular case we looked at
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Taylor's girlfriend Taylor's
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ex-husband possibly anyone that was
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involved in her Private Investigations
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were
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police looked at Taylor's
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finances cameras that scann checks
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revealed a sudden large withdrawal from
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an account that she shared with her
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ex-husband Taylor removed approximately
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$100,000 in cash out of the joint
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account that they had and the judge had
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ordered Taylor to give the money back
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based on her ongoing dispute with her
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ex-husband Jeff and the fact that
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there's $100,000 missing from the
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account he is a potential suspect in the
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case we did contact Jeff Wright he was a
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friendly enough guy still had custody of
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their child he gave us a little
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background that Taylor you know has from
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time to time taken off and didn't
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communicate with friends but did agree
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that she would still communicate with
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her
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son there was still one key person the
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police needed to speak with
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with a friend of hers called Ashley
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MacArthur who Taylor had trusted with a
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large sum of money Ashley MacArthur was
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a friend of Taylor Ashley's husband
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actually worked with Taylor in the
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Private Investigations industry and so
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that's how Ashley and Taylor
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met Ashley MacArthur had worked briefly
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as a crime scen technician at the
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sheriff's office she also worked for her
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family's Amusement arcade company
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which supplied video games to local
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businesses Cassandra Waller paints this
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picture Taylor let Ashley hold a
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significant amount of money and that
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Taylor kept trying to get the money back
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Taylor grew more and more concerned
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about this and expressed this to
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Cassandra Taylor wri's girlfriend told
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the police that Ashley had promised to
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give Taylor her money back on September
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8th she was like okay well Ash is coming
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over we're going to go to Ash's bank and
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we're going to pick up my money Ash had
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pulled up and I was like all right you
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know we hugged we kissed I love you I
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went my
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way that intimate moment was the last
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time Cassandra said she saw
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Taylor she also claimed that Taylor had
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a funny feeling about
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Ashley it seemed like you can parid she
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was talking about how she felt like
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something just wasn't right with Ash
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like she wasn't sure if Ash had her
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money or not because Taylor had been
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trying to get the money for like four or
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5 days and I was like Taylor you know
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she's probably been really busy you know
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she goes no cash she goes like I'm
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telling you something just doesn't feel
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right with me I don't want to think this
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but like I want to give you guys like
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whatever you guys need I be so wrong no
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I I'd rather you be wrong and have a
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feeling or know something to tell us I
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to be mad at me cuz I like May or
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something as do even know
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anything Cassandra's testimony meant the
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police were now becoming much more
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focused on Taylor's friend Ashley she
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was called in for a
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chat to start with your relationship to
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Taylor okay she was more than happy to
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cooperate and you all met how long ago
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about a year ago
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how often did y'all hang out
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um probably once a week twice a week we
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kind of hone in on the day of The
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Disappearance with with Ashley and
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really try to get her locked into a
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timeline the last day that you saw her
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was what day on Friday she discusses
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going and picking up Taylor the morning
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of we
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went back to my house I believe and what
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were what was your purpose purpose for
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going back there um to get the any of
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the papers that I had for her and the
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money and stuff for her so the money was
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being kept at your house right how long
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had the money been being kept there um
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it was only there for a
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few a few days where was it at before
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that Taylor had it was Taylor trying to
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hide until she could recoup maybe funds
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that she had
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spent was Taylor hiding this money with
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the hopes that they would just let it go
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that was that was kind of an
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unknown Ashley gave a detailed account
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of what happened on September
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8th I went to the gas station there to
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get a drink she was on the
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phone and I went in the store got a
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drink and got her and her
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beer how much has she been drinking that
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day was she like intoxicated like she
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didn't seem to
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be but I mean I don't drink at 10:00 in
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the morning either so I don't sure and
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in fact I said something to her I was
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like beer at this time of the morning
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she was like well it's 5:00 somewhere
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according to Ashley they proceed to
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Ashley's Family Farm out in East Milton
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this was a family farm that I had
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instead we just drove out there and she
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was
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just team I guess she says Taylor rides
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some of the horses and they um come back
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into Pensacola and Ashley says Taylor
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gets into an Uber and leaves her
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residence she was fine she just said
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that she wanted to go have a beer and
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that she was going to get an Uber to
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take her to go have a beer Ashley gives
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us permission to look into her cell
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phone at the time we kept the phone and
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had the analyst plug it in and start
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start chipping away at
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downloading the police used the cell
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phone data to check on Ashley's timeline
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of
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events then they tried to find evidence
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for the route that Ashley said she and
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Taylor
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took we're looking for any kind of
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surveillance cameras that we can find
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any kind of convenience stores that they
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may drive
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past they began with the gas station
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that Ashley and Taylor went into on the
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last day to t er was
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seen this is surveillance footage from a
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fuel station convenience store called
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Tom
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Thumb as MacArthur going
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in
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purchasing some drinks she just grabbed
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a beer out of the cooler she's on the
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phone
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here so it's presumed here that Taylor
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was likely in the vehicle she certainly
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said that Taylor was in the
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vehicle the the video of Ashley in the
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gas station backed up her
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timeline but when they got the cell
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phone data back Ashley's version of
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movements didn't match the root mapping
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from her
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phone neither Ashley's cell phone or
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Taylor's cell phone ever goes over to
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East Milton in fact their cell phon stay
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over in the area of that P station where
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Ashley was observed making purchases
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inside the
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store we start looking for or any kind
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of property that either of them may have
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connections to in that area we know that
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Ashley her maiden name is Brit so we
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type in the last name Brit and it brings
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up Brit
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Road the police discovered Ashley's
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family owned a farm on Brit Road just
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north of the gas station where she was
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caught on
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camera it's nowhere near where Ashley
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said they were
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this is not the farm in East Milton
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she's talking about it's in cantonement
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Bula area here in esami
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County detectives started to analyze the
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inconsistencies in Ashley's version of
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events they also grew suspicious of her
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eagerness to help during the
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investigation Ashley called several
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times inquiring about the case she would
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ask what we were up to or what we had
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going on or if we' made any progress no
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one else during the investigation called
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as half as many times as Ashley
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did someone being too involved in the
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investigation by constantly calling the
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police is something that I've seen
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before and it is again one of those
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circumstances where the person's
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probably overcompensating so they are
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trying to show that they're concerned
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about their friend what they're trying
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to sort of theatrically perform is the
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worry friend but what they're obviously
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doing because that's not how normal
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people behave is they're obviously
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trying to get information about the case
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so that they can adjust their story as
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needed and almost certainly doing
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something as unusual as this is going to
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raise suspicions rather than qu
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them her bank records enabled the police
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to track down surveillance footage of
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Ashley making a series of unusual
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transactions you can see a large sum of
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money in her her hand that she was
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depositing into the ATM
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machines we also received the image of
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the check that uh Ashley had
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deposited and you'll see various uh
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images of Ashley making various
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transactions crucial footage at the ATM
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revealed inconsistencies in Ashley's
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version of
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events we get Ashley deposit depositing
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Taylor's checks Taylor had checks made
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out to her in her name and yet Ashley's
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on camera depositing
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them we look at Taylor's signatures
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spanning back months and the signature
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on the back of the check that Ashley's
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depositing doesn't match the
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signature in another breakthrough Ashley
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was caught on camera at a Home Depot
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store the day after Taylor disappeared
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she had an unusual shopping list
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in the cart is concrete and potting soil
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this is an employee that's she's got
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helping her push the
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cart and then she goes up and pays cash
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for the
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items when the police checked out
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another one of Ashley's interview claims
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they were
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baffled Ashley told us that Taylor had
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taken an Uber from her house we
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investigated that we learned she hadn't
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used Uber and quite some time we also
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checked other ride share companies and
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none of those had any kind of records
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with Taylor still missing the way Ashley
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MacArthur behaved was in complete
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contrast to Taylor's girlfriend
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Cassandra on the other hand we ask her
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pass codes to her phone she gives them
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right over we ask her for consent to
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search everything she signs everything
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open
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book it became quite apparent that
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Cassandra wasn't involved in Taylor's
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disappearance
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Taylor's ex-husband Jeff Wright was in
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the Army and many miles away at the time
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of her
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disappearance detective gigliotti was
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able to make contact with his command up
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at his base and confirm that he's been
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at work the whole time and he hasn't
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left U that area so he was it was easy
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to rule him out as any kind of potential
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suspect in the
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case with Cassandra and Jeff in the
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clear all the evidence seemed to be
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pointing towards Ashley
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Arthur the big question was is Ashley
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lying to us because she's hiding
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Taylor helping her hide out or is she
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lying to us cuz she hurt
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her the police decided they needed
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another conversation with
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Ashley at the same time they planed to
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search three Key Properties including
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the farm on Brit road we have teams in
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place to execute all those at one time
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we o have myself and gigliotti we are
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going to conduct the interview here at
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the police
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department everything was riding on this
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carefully planned
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operation the police needed Ashley to
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reveal what really happened to Taylor
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and they needed to find hard evidence
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from the properties being
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[Music]
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searched hi how you been
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doing when we were conducting an
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investigation we come across like I said
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several things we wanted to confront her
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with the information at 12:10 you are in
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here
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M we know that your aunt and uncle and
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Kyle own the farm there on Brit
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Road well at that point first time
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really ever in our interviews with
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Ashley she changed her
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story Ashley initially told us she went
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out to East Milton well you look at the
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cell records and it never went out to
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East Milton it's showing that you're
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probably near that farm or if not at
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that farm and you're there when this is
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the time when you're telling us that
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you're probably Milton or headed towards
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the milon CU it's uh 12:10 in the
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afternoon 12:46 you're still covering
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the farm
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1301 you're out here for quite a while
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then you leave around at least at
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1344 what were youall doing out there at
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this Farm we know y'all were there we
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picked up some
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um stuff that Taylor had there that we
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had what was that she had store um some
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kind of lock box that she had actually
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now tells us that the two did in fact go
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to the Brit Road farm that day this is
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the first time she'd ever mentioned this
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why would you not tell us that or
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because she asked me not to tell anyone
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ever you know we're investigating a
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missing person you called us dozens of
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times
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why not say hey we went out to this
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location why why hold back and her
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excuse was is that Taylor just didn't
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want us to know that she went out
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there which doesn't make any sense so
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you're the only one that was with her on
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this day at this farm that you did not
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disclose to us I didn't do anything tell
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you this if she's at that farm we're
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going to find her because we're
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executing the search one out there right
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now that's fine but she's not going to
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be there where is she at I don't know
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where she in her second interview when
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she came in she had a completely
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different demeanor she was not as
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forthcoming she clearly did not want to
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answer questions and she clearly did not
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want to be as helpful as she was
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initially the police were holding out
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for information from the search teams
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that would enable them to keep Ashley
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MacArthur in
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custody we're trying to prolong the
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interview as long as possible it was a
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very long time for during the interview
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of not being
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contacted with Ashley holding back
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detective Chad willite decided to go in
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hard me for a second don't cross the
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legs when I removed her chair and turned
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it around I wanted to break down
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whatever defense she had if I can get
00:22:14
her thinking about how uncomfortable she
00:22:17
is maybe she will slip
00:22:21
up me for a second don't cross your legs
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on for a
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second don't let us tell your
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story we're going to this is going to
00:22:32
tell us what
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happened this
00:22:36
is exactly the kind of thing that you'd
00:22:39
expect with What's called the read model
00:22:40
of interrogations which is more akin to
00:22:43
good cop bad cop than other forms of
00:22:46
interrogations or interviews and this
00:22:48
idea of sort of physically cornering
00:22:50
somebody or physically intimidating
00:22:51
someone by changing the room is very in
00:22:55
line with that
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technique don't let us tell us something
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that may not be
00:23:00
true tell us what happened I think at
00:23:04
this point I need an attorney because it
00:23:06
seems to be that you'll think that I did
00:23:09
something to
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her okay I respect
00:23:16
that with no solid evidence to keep
00:23:19
Ashley in custody they had to release
00:23:23
her it almost feels to a degree like you
00:23:26
failed right because as an investigator
00:23:29
you want that confession uh and we
00:23:31
didn't get it everything was now resting
00:23:34
on the search at the farm on Brit Road
00:23:37
detective gigliotti made contact with
00:23:40
the team on site I happen to call one of
00:23:43
the sergeants at the time while he's on
00:23:46
the phone with me he's yelling in the
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background we have a
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body unquestionably we have
00:23:56
Remains the police had to confirm who
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the remains belonged
00:24:01
to a unique item of jewelry helped
00:24:06
identification with had pictures of
00:24:08
Taylor's necklace she commonly wore uh
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Cassandra said she was wearing it the
00:24:12
day of The Disappearance and sure enough
00:24:15
the necklace was
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00:24:18
there Taylor's Body was discovered on
00:24:21
the other side of a fence in an area
00:24:23
that was kind of wooded she was wrapped
00:24:26
up in a tarp
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she was covered with concrete and
00:24:30
potting
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soil I will never forget the day that
00:24:35
they announced you know they had found
00:24:37
her
00:24:38
body it was difficult cuz Not only was
00:24:42
she murdered that her body was put in a
00:24:45
grave that she just left her there to be
00:24:49
it's it's
00:24:52
awful they were able to determine pretty
00:24:55
quickly what appeared to be uh bullet
00:24:58
wound to the back of the
00:25:01
skull the remains are taken over the
00:25:04
medical examiner's office to confirm
00:25:06
cause of death which was later
00:25:07
determined to be a gunshot wound to to
00:25:10
the back of Taylor's head once the body
00:25:13
was located everyone was on board that
00:25:15
it was time to arrest Ashley and
00:25:18
prosecute
00:25:19
her Bridget Myers Jensen led the case
00:25:23
against Ashley in the summer of 2019 it
00:25:26
was very significant to law enforcement
00:25:28
and to the prosecution of the case that
00:25:30
Taylor's Body was actually located
00:25:33
Ashley could have used any defense I
00:25:35
mean she could have come up with
00:25:36
anything if we didn't have a body uh to
00:25:39
to prove that Taylor had been actually
00:25:42
murdered the video surveillance footage
00:25:44
proved vital for the
00:25:46
prosecution the surveillance footage of
00:25:49
the store and Home Depot not only gave
00:25:53
us the evidence that Ashley was
00:25:55
purchasing concrete and potting soil but
00:25:56
what it does is shows us the accuracy of
00:25:59
the cell phone records right because
00:26:02
defense Council later in trial paints
00:26:04
this picture that the cell phone records
00:26:07
can be inconsistent and
00:26:10
inaccurate and we can show that well in
00:26:13
fact if the cell phone records show
00:26:17
Ashley's phone covering the Tom Thumb
00:26:19
and she's in fact on the surveillance
00:26:21
footage at the time similar to The Home
00:26:23
Depot and surveillance is corroborating
00:26:26
that that these in these phone records
00:26:28
are in fact very accurate it also helps
00:26:32
show the jury there's always that doubt
00:26:35
well someone else could have deposited
00:26:37
those checks into Ashley's account but
00:26:39
when they're on camera it's hard to
00:26:41
refute the fact that she deposited them
00:26:45
a range of cameras were used to help
00:26:47
capture Taylor's
00:26:49
killer but the question remains why
00:26:52
would Ashley MacArthur kill Taylor
00:26:56
Wright Taylor had withdrawn on
00:26:58
approximately $100,000 from a bank
00:27:01
account that she should not have
00:27:03
withdrawn based on court proceedings
00:27:05
with her
00:27:06
ex-husband in an effort to hide the
00:27:09
money I believe she gave the money to
00:27:12
Ashley MacArthur to
00:27:14
hold Ashley at the time was having an
00:27:18
affair and Ashley was showering this man
00:27:21
with gifts the motive of the homicide
00:27:25
was greed essentially Ashley Arthur was
00:27:29
in a position where Taylor needed her
00:27:31
money back but Ashley couldn't give it
00:27:33
back because Ashley had spent it
00:27:37
all we always want a profound
00:27:40
psychological reason for murder and it
00:27:44
rarely exists it's often much more
00:27:46
trivial and very often it's about things
00:27:48
like money this shouldn't be the kind of
00:27:51
thing that motivates murder and yet much
00:27:54
smaller debts have also led to similar
00:27:56
outcomes
00:27:58
when I found out what had happened to
00:28:00
Taylor it was devastating devastating
00:28:03
that somebody she obviously loved and
00:28:06
cared
00:28:07
for did that to her that they would kill
00:28:11
her over something is small as money you
00:28:14
it's
00:28:17
just just
00:28:22
awful after a week-long trial the
00:28:25
verdict came in Ashley MacArthur was
00:28:28
found guilty of first-degree
00:28:30
premeditated
00:28:32
murder she was sentenced to life in
00:28:36
prison women killing women is so rare
00:28:39
that we have almost no research on it at
00:28:42
all but we can take a little bit of the
00:28:45
research on women who perpetrate violent
00:28:48
crimes and what we know is that women
00:28:50
who perpetrate gun crimes are more
00:28:52
likely to score high in certain
00:28:54
Psychopathic traits so they're more
00:28:56
likely for example to be low in empathy
00:28:58
they're more likely to be manipulative
00:29:00
and that is a package that makes women
00:29:04
more likely to offend violently using
00:29:06
guns but even that we we really know
00:29:08
very little about why women perpetrate
00:29:11
violent offenses because so few women
00:29:14
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00:29:21
do Taylor was an amazing person she had
00:29:25
a huge heart and would she loved you she
00:29:28
loved
00:29:29
EIG and she she was just a breath of
00:29:33
fresh air she was very special to
00:29:36
me yep she was there through a lot of
00:29:39
things in
00:29:41
life I want people to know that she was
00:29:44
a good person and that her life
00:29:49
mattered okay give me a
00:29:51
kiss I love you
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[Music]
00:30:00
Ashley and Taylor were just friends new
00:30:04
friends but what do you do if you feel a
00:30:06
friend is not good for your mental
00:30:08
[Music]
00:30:10
health there's so much in novels and
00:30:14
movies and anecdotes from people around
00:30:18
us about romantic relationships and
00:30:20
breakups and what those look like and
00:30:21
how to end a relationship but there's so
00:30:24
little comparatively on how to end a
00:30:26
friendship or how to deal with a friend
00:30:29
who's not behaving appropriately or who
00:30:30
you're not getting on with anymore um or
00:30:33
who's manipulating you and I think
00:30:35
there's a real knowledge Gap there and a
00:30:38
skills Gap and what do you even do if
00:30:40
you've got a bad friend how do you get
00:30:42
rid of this
00:30:44
person in our next case a friend of a
00:30:47
friend proves fatal after being
00:30:50
secretive about his
00:30:56
past in the UK tin and wear
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[Music]
00:31:02
Sunderland a port city on the northeast
00:31:05
coast of
00:31:06
[Music]
00:31:07
England home to Michelle
00:31:11
Hansen Michelle was 47 years old she had
00:31:15
five kids and one grandchild she was
00:31:17
very close to them all her children
00:31:19
often spoke about sharing secrets for
00:31:21
her they found it very comfortable to
00:31:23
talk to her and they felt like they
00:31:24
could tell her anything Michelle was
00:31:27
known as a very um outgoing person she
00:31:29
had quite a lot of friends she was very
00:31:30
family orientated love going to parties
00:31:32
L singing she was generally the life and
00:31:35
soul of the
00:31:37
party in early 2022 Michelle invited
00:31:41
friends and family to come over for a
00:31:43
drink but after going quiet the day
00:31:46
after a family member checked in on her
00:31:50
and was confronted by a devastating
00:31:54
scene Michelle's body was found by a
00:31:56
family member face down on the floor she
00:32:00
had about 29 uh stab wounds to her neck
00:32:03
and paid to have blood force trauma to
00:32:06
her head as
00:32:07
well there was a br and plate nearby and
00:32:10
she was found with porcelain in in her
00:32:12
hair as
00:32:14
well it was a brutal attack that ended
00:32:17
in Michelle's
00:32:21
death when the police arrived they
00:32:23
cleared the scene taped the area off
00:32:27
looked around for evidence
00:32:28
any sort of forensic details that they
00:32:30
could
00:32:32
find they found blood on a window pane
00:32:35
in the bathroom they also found empty
00:32:37
bottles of
00:32:39
alcohol the police sent the evidence off
00:32:42
for DNA
00:32:43
testing Michelle's body was sent for an
00:32:49
autopsy a family member told the police
00:32:53
about a possible suspect who was seen
00:32:55
with Michelle the night she had friends
00:32:57
over
00:32:58
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00:33:01
shell appeared to be quite comfortable
00:33:03
in his company she was snuggling up to
00:33:05
him she even was said to have uh looked
00:33:08
like she found him quite attractive when
00:33:10
the family member left she said that she
00:33:12
was
00:33:13
fine the family member gave the police a
00:33:16
rough description of the man and his
00:33:19
name Alexander
00:33:24
Carr the police urgently needed to speak
00:33:27
with Alex
00:33:28
as soon as Alex car has been highlighted
00:33:31
as a suspect or a person of interest
00:33:33
then the police will have gone and
00:33:35
started to investigate where he might be
00:33:38
his
00:33:39
whereabouts he was a current student so
00:33:42
they were seen if he'd had student
00:33:44
lodgings or contacted his friends on the
00:33:49
call police started looking for
00:33:51
surveillance footage tracking back to
00:33:54
the time Michelle's body was
00:33:56
found they were aware that he didn't
00:33:59
have access to a vehicle so the obvious
00:34:02
way in which someone would leave the
00:34:04
locality would be to use public
00:34:08
transport on December 2nd a man matching
00:34:12
Alexander car's description was captured
00:34:15
by bus surveillance
00:34:20
cameras Ray Evans is a forensic image
00:34:23
analyst who works regularly with the
00:34:26
police we know that he's a white male we
00:34:29
can see that he has a shaved head the
00:34:32
shape approximately of his
00:34:36
ear he's wearing a backpack that would
00:34:39
give the police um a little more
00:34:42
information so the footage could be used
00:34:44
for tracking the time the date and the
00:34:48
location we can then utilize that
00:34:51
footage to track people across a
00:34:54
location for a certain amount of time
00:34:57
that would be very useful cuz it it
00:34:58
would place somebody in a particular
00:35:02
position the bus footage also helped the
00:35:05
police work out where Alexander Carr was
00:35:07
heading buses have a you know specific
00:35:10
routes if they've got footage of him
00:35:12
getting on the bus being on the bus and
00:35:14
then getting off the bus it would tell
00:35:16
you approximately which direction he's
00:35:18
going in it's all about getting that
00:35:21
little bit of information that allows
00:35:23
the police to assess what the next step
00:35:25
might be of a person that they're
00:35:27
looking for was very very useful
00:35:31
indeed Professor Coral dando is a
00:35:34
forensic
00:35:35
psychologist the footage revealed
00:35:37
important details about Alexander Carr
00:35:40
which proved helpful for the police
00:35:43
investigation it reveals information
00:35:46
about him about his distinctive walk we
00:35:48
refer to that as a gate so the way in
00:35:50
which people walk has been used quite a
00:35:53
lot to identify individuals even when we
00:35:56
can't see their face so he's got this
00:35:58
sort of swagger his feet are turned out
00:36:01
and he does swagger from one side to
00:36:03
another and it is quite an unusual
00:36:07
walk as the last known person to see
00:36:10
Michelle the police needed to speak with
00:36:12
Alexander Carr but he was proving
00:36:15
difficult to track
00:36:19
down Alexander car was known as a a bit
00:36:23
of an urban survivalist he was used to
00:36:26
spend time outdoor a lot that was one of
00:36:29
his
00:36:30
Hobbies he's had periods of homelessness
00:36:33
and I think they've been at various
00:36:34
places around the country it would have
00:36:37
taken them a while to track him down in
00:36:40
terms of looking at all the particular
00:36:43
areas of the country that he might
00:36:46
be but police received a tip off and
00:36:49
moved in to raid the
00:36:55
property down
00:37:00
this is footage from mobile phone it was
00:37:03
filmed by a neighbor you'll notice that
00:37:05
they are
00:37:06
armed police come the door
00:37:09
down it's important to get the suspect
00:37:12
quickly because if he turns out to be
00:37:14
the perpetrator the murderer then he's a
00:37:17
danger to other people
00:37:29
they didn't know if he was inside and
00:37:31
after several attempts to coax Alex out
00:37:34
they entered the
00:37:36
property Alex was not inside but the
00:37:39
police found a jacket heavily stained
00:37:41
with Michelle's
00:37:43
blood you wouldn't expect to see things
00:37:46
such as blood hair bodily fluids unless
00:37:50
he'd been involved in some sort of
00:37:52
violent incident with
00:37:55
her Alexander Carr was is now the prime
00:37:58
suspect in Michelle's murder and he was
00:38:00
on the
00:38:02
run a huge Manhunt was launched the
00:38:05
police were trolling through CCTV
00:38:07
footage the police were urging people
00:38:09
not to approach him if they saw him he
00:38:11
was someone who enjoyed being outside he
00:38:14
considered himself to be an urban
00:38:16
survivalist so no one knew way he could
00:38:18
be at
00:38:20
all with a killer on the loose news of
00:38:23
Michelle's death was met with sorrow and
00:38:26
alarm
00:38:27
no one could really believe what
00:38:29
happened people had heard about the uh
00:38:31
the violent we that she she died there
00:38:33
was a lot of fear and uh quite a lot of
00:38:37
shock it was unclear why anyone would
00:38:40
murder such a well-loved member of the
00:38:43
community Michelle's daughter Shannon
00:38:45
Brown appealed to the public to help
00:38:47
catch her mom's
00:38:50
killer my mom was a caring kind and
00:38:53
loving person she would never hurt
00:38:55
anyone even if someone did something to
00:38:57
her she will forgive them because she
00:38:59
always saw the good in
00:39:01
people please if you have any
00:39:03
information which can help the place
00:39:04
with that investigation don't hesitate
00:39:06
to get in touch with them any little
00:39:08
piece of information could help our mom
00:39:11
deserves Justice thank
00:39:13
[Music]
00:39:16
you the charity Crim Stoppers put
00:39:19
Alexander Carr on their most wanted list
00:39:22
it offered a
00:39:23
£10,000 reward for information leading
00:39:26
to his arrest
00:39:28
[Music]
00:39:29
the police also made the decision to
00:39:30
release the footage from the
00:39:32
bus the reason it's given to the public
00:39:34
is to jog their memory to see if they've
00:39:37
seen this person on that particular day
00:39:40
and that then gives the police something
00:39:41
that they can you know tie into and uh
00:39:44
refer back to so it's it's useful as
00:39:47
very useful as
00:39:48
reference obviously the the hope is that
00:39:52
they will strike gold and someone says
00:39:54
well I know that person very well and I
00:39:57
can vouch that um this is the person who
00:40:00
I think it
00:40:01
is but Alexander had slipped off the
00:40:05
radar he was on the run for quite a
00:40:07
while and as the deers went by the
00:40:09
police were growing more and more
00:40:11
concerned as were the
00:40:13
community during the investigation the
00:40:15
police received the DNA results from the
00:40:17
blood at the murder
00:40:20
scene it was a direct match for
00:40:23
Alexander Carr
00:40:28
as the police dug further into Alexander
00:40:30
Carr's history they found a disturbing
00:40:33
pattern of
00:40:35
violence in 2010 car was sentenced to 3
00:40:39
and a half years in prison for a hammer
00:40:43
attack it would be likely that someone
00:40:46
that's got a background of attacking
00:40:48
another human being with a
00:40:50
hammer violent nasty aggressive will go
00:40:55
on to be offend
00:40:58
Alexander carrr posed a real danger to
00:41:01
society and he was still on the
00:41:04
loose 18 days in counting then the
00:41:08
police got another tip off there was
00:41:11
information that car was in the north
00:41:13
London area police then focused her
00:41:16
attention on the upper Hol railway
00:41:19
station police moved in to arrest
00:41:23
him you move move
00:41:27
move do not move
00:41:31
police hands up Alex you got armed
00:41:33
police pointing weapons at
00:41:35
you laser guided sights on the canvas a
00:41:39
knife is used for Access we're going to
00:41:42
open this door you do not move okay you
00:41:44
follow instructions you
00:41:48
understand do not
00:41:50
move no on the
00:41:53
left
00:41:55
understand three loaded automatic rifles
00:42:00
get stay where you are pointed inside
00:42:03
the
00:42:06
tent typically one wouldn't want to go
00:42:09
and do a complex arrest such as this in
00:42:12
Woodland in the dark he's a known
00:42:16
violent offender with a violent history
00:42:20
so they will be concerned that he's got
00:42:22
a
00:42:24
weapon anything about your person which
00:42:26
could harm us sh no no good and they
00:42:30
will also be concerned for their own
00:42:32
safety as well as his
00:42:37
safety the W how
00:42:40
know at this particular point he's
00:42:43
managed to evade arrest for a certain
00:42:45
number of weeks so that may have given
00:42:47
him confidence that actually he was
00:42:50
being very smart being very clever and
00:42:53
maybe didn't think he was ever going to
00:42:55
be apprehended
00:42:58
Alexander Carr was transported back to
00:43:01
the
00:43:02
Northeast David Huntley was in the court
00:43:04
on the first day of his
00:43:06
trial when I arrived at court he seemed
00:43:09
quite disheveled and quite bewildered uh
00:43:11
didn't really seem to know where he was
00:43:12
at the time he'd been on the run for
00:43:14
over two weeks living in a tent so he he
00:43:16
wasn't in the best frame of mind at that
00:43:18
point everyone was quite pleased that
00:43:20
this suspect had finally been
00:43:23
caught during the trial the full details
00:43:26
of what happened on the the night of
00:43:27
Michelle's murder became
00:43:29
clear Michelle met car earlier that
00:43:33
night she invited him into her home they
00:43:37
shared drinks they had a laugh together
00:43:40
a family member actually uh arrived at
00:43:42
the property as well saw them both when
00:43:45
the family member left Paul was left
00:43:48
alone with Michelle that's when he
00:43:50
carried out the brute La
00:43:52
tuck he chalked her smashed a plate over
00:43:56
our head he beat her up pretty badly as
00:43:59
well as stabbing her around 29 times in
00:44:01
the
00:44:04
neck after the murder he tried to find a
00:44:07
key to get out uh couldn't find one had
00:44:10
to resort to climb out a bathroom window
00:44:11
and Escape that
00:44:14
way at first Alexander Carr pleaded
00:44:17
guilty to manslaughter with diminished
00:44:21
responsibility Alex car has quite a
00:44:25
complex psychological back
00:44:27
ground in the past he has had a lot of
00:44:31
mental health
00:44:33
episodes he has been diagnosed with
00:44:35
post-traumatic stress disorder and
00:44:38
psychosis and also some borderline
00:44:42
personality
00:44:43
disorders there can be triggers that can
00:44:46
trigger a serious episode or incident
00:44:50
and when that happens that individual
00:44:53
then can suffer um catastrophic
00:44:57
drop in their mental health and that can
00:45:00
sometimes uh result in very violent
00:45:05
Behavior despite KN finew well about his
00:45:09
mental health condition his his mental
00:45:11
illnesses his previous psychosis uh he
00:45:14
knew that if he consumed drinking drugs
00:45:16
that it would affect him badly and he
00:45:19
chose on that night to to make that
00:45:21
decision and self-medicate um and and do
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exactly what he knew he shouldn't have
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done and that was drinking and and
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taking drugs and it ended in the worst
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way possible for
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Michelle Alexander Carr pleaded guilty
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to Michelle Hansen's
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murder he was sentenced to life in
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prison with a minimum term of 19
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years Michelle's family were were left
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devastated and completely broken he took
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the mother's life away from them and uh
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they'll never forgive him for that
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they've been left traumatized and
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they'll never be able to get that time
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back that they shared with her
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