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Oklahoma City November 2001 devoted dad
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Rob Andrew is looking forward to
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Thanksgiving with his children
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Thanksgiving was a big deal to him being
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thankful for what you have that was who
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he was but very quickly tragedy strikes
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Rob and his wife Brenda in their own
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home 91 I've been shot my husband's been
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shot oh my God there's blood
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everywhere what monster kills during the
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holidays those two little kids had no
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clue that their world was changing right
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outside in their very own garage who
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wants this loving father dead a month
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before he was killed his brake lines
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have been cut that sounds like attemped
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murder don't you think this was a
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planned
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attack $800,000
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that has to be considered as a possible
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motive for
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murder no you can't control evil evil
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comes to you from from out of nowhere
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hello I'm Nancy Grace Oklahoma City at
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Thanksgiving and the city celebrates in
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style parades in the streets friends
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gather everyone counting down until
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Christmas
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for families in the midst of a breakup
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it can be awkward and
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Bittersweet one month before Christmas
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two days before Thanksgiving Robert
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Andrew is alone an advertising executive
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from Oklahoma he's facing the holiday
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season without his wife Brenda
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Brenda had filed for divorce but it was
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not something he wanted he was
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heartbroken over that I know that
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particular Thanksgiving was a big deal
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to him because he was picking up the
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kids and taking them to have
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Thanksgiving dinner with his family it
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was going to be a normal Thanksgiving
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except Brenda wasn't part of the
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equation this
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time but he went over to pick up his
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kids that night
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and didn't get past the
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garage
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911 I've been shot my husband's been
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shot okay you and your husband have both
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been
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shot shot
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you I don't
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know I don't know they had on black mask
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I don't know oh my God there's blood
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everywhere well the incident happened
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it's a quiet neighborhood it's a aurban
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type
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neighborhood large homes uh expensive
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I'm thinking uh you know why is this
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happening over there Roland Garrett is a
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retired detective from the Oklahoma City
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PD when I drive up the scene I see uh
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dozen police cars
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ambulance everybody's lights is
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flashing and the lights of the home are
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on in the garage the garage door is is
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raised the overhead garage door is
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up I met my partner outside the crime
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scene he said when the officers arrived
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at the scene Brenda Andrew was leaning
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over Rob Andrew her
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husband there have been two masked guns
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gun men that had come into her
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garage one had a shotgun and shot her
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husband the other had a smaller pistol
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and shot
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her she had a uh gunshot wound to the
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upper part of her left
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arm Brenda is taken by EMS to the
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hospital to get treatment for her
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gunshot
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wound in television news Thanksgiving
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was an easy holiday to work because
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there wasn't a lot of news going on this
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being the
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exception it came over the scanners and
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so we jumped in the car showed up and
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there were police cars
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everywhere we heard someone was dead in
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the garage and there was another
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victim he shows up to pick up his kids
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and he gets killed in the garage
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on his way to celebrate a beautiful
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holiday I'm sure with his family and his
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children how could that
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happen the kids were found inside the
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house watching
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television those two little kids had no
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clue that their world was changing right
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outside in their very own
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garage so at the time they were removed
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from the scene and taken to a neighbor's
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house
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based on the information we received
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know it was two suspects so we we had
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patrolman in the area and we also had a
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helicopter checking the
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area spoke to the neighbors to find out
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if anybody saw anything or were there
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any security
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cameras No cameras we did have some
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neighbors that heard something they say
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sound like a trash can banging or
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something uh that's about all they
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heard the forensic investigators arrived
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at the scene and they see what we got
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there Rob was laying on his back in the
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garage there were two wounds he was shot
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in his neck and in the side of his
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abdomen there was a bag of tin cans
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nearby Rob was likely trying to Shield
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him self from the second
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shot in the forensic investigators
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located a shotgun shell on top of a
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minivan that was parked in the
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garage and a bullet fragment in the door
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the door which leads from the uh garage
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to the interior of the
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house no weapons were found at the
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scene at the time I still don't have
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much no known reason why somebody would
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want to come kill this man in his garage
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I got a phone call from a coworker and
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she
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said did you
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hear and she said Rob is
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dead and I just felt like
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is Indescribable like your soul leaving
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your body or something it's something
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I've never felt before and never have
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again and hope I never
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do I knew it would be important to talk
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to Brenda Andrew the wife of the
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deceased I was hoping that she would be
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able to come up with something to help
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lead us to some
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suspects I go to the hospital and Brenda
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was still in the emergency room being
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treated her condition was was going to
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be non-life-threatening and she was just
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sto just sitting there basically
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answering my
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questions she told me they were going
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through a divorce and he had moved out a
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couple months prior he got an apartment
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3 mil away from their
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house husband and father Rob Andrew
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comes to the home to get the children
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he's taking them to a Thanksgiving
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dinner at his parents' home before they
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leave wife Brenda asked Rob to check the
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furnace that night her pilot light on
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her furnace had gone out and she needed
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some help with
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that as he crouched down to take a look
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suddenly two masked men appeared in the
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garage one fired a shot at
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Rob she was shot and she was exit in the
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garage to go back in the
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house she went inside called 911 and she
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went back out to check on Rob and the
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guys were
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gone Brenda was unable to offer any
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clues as to who the suspects could
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possibly be she had no clue who would
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want to hurt
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rob you know it could be a home invasion
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or it could be Rob getting followed home
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you kind of Wonder is is this going to
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be
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solvable it was all depending on what we
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was going to find out about the victim
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and his
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wife Brenda and Rob both grew up in Enid
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Oklahoma Rob grew up in a conservative
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Baptist household with his three
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brothers Brenda had grown up in a very
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conservative household as
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well everyone knew the story about how
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Rob and Brenda met it was in Enid in the
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summer at the public swimming
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pool Brenda walked in Rob had always
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said I saw this cute girl in the
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swimsuit and said I'm going to marry her
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and he
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did shortly after getting married the
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couple moves to Oklahoma City where Rob
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has offered the job of his
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dreams Rob was an advertising executive
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for Jordan advertising here in Oklahoma
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City and he had done very well for
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himself had a great reputation in this
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town and in the advertising World in
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1990 Rob and Brenda Andrew start a
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family of their own first the birth of
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their daughter trity then a few years
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later they welcome a baby boy Parker he
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was the stereotypical Family Man loved
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his wife loved his
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kids told us all the time how proud he
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was of all of them I mean he lived for
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his family and I know it sounds like a
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stereotype or a cliche to say that he
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was the nicest guy but he really was the
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nicest guy he did things for people
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without asking and he didn't expect
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anything in
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return his positivity came from his
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faith he was a very religious man
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Rob went on mission trips with his
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church they would go overseas and build
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houses for a village that didn't really
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have housing and he loved
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it Brenda was your typical stay-at-home
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mom she taught Sunday school she baked
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brownies with her kids like the perfect
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wife and mother Brenda would come up to
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the office with the kids every now and
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then she seemed very happy
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and devoted to them devoted to Rob they
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absolutely seem like a strong couple Rob
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thought that this was his happily ever
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after but just two months before
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Thanksgiving Rob had left the house at
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Brenda's
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insistance he was heartbroken and living
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in an apartment and
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just desperately praying that she would
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have uh second
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thoughts he wanted to stay married to
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her he still loved her with all of his
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heart he believed if he prayed hard
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enough and kept at it that he could turn
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her around that that they could they
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could be in love
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again despite the problems in his
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relationship you know he was he was
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really trying to you know take care of
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his kids and stay a part of their life
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despite what's going on with him his
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wife it seems no one has anything
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anything bad to say about Rob but when
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it comes to wife Brenda detectives hear
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a very different
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story Brenda very much put on a June
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Cleaver sort of role but that wasn't who
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she
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was she looked like the perfect
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stay-at-home mom Sunday school
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innocent it was quite the opposite
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Brenda had a lot of skeletons in her
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closet Thanksgiving is truly a time for
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gratitude and for families to gather and
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give thanks despite his troubled
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marriage Rob Andrew wants his children
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to have a wonderful holiday so who who
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would want to gun down this Dad Gunn
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Down In Cold Blood when he's picking up
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his children for Thanksgiving
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dinner detectives speak to those closest
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to Rob Andrew to learn he is a star
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advertising executive his success buys a
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beautiful home for his family and it all
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seems ideal except his stay-at-home wife
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Brenda is not staying home
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for all intents and purposes she looked
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like the perfect stay-at-home mom it was
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quite the opposite she'd had multiple
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affairs with different
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men and it starts almost immediately
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after their
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marriage as part of the work I did with
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Rob we were in the car for two hours at
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a time at least once if not twice a week
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almost every time he would call Brenda
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and I noticed that they never said I
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love
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you one time I asked him why do you
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never say I love you on the phone and he
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told me that she had said soon after
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they got married that makes me feel
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uncomfortable do not ever tell me that
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again I mean at the time I was newly
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married and I couldn't even fathom a
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world in which I didn't end a
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conversation with my wife that way uh it
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seemed
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bizarre on subsequent trips Rob would
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tell me about Affairs he believed Brenda
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was
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having I remember asking what makes you
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think
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that he told a story about coming home
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and seeing a box on the bed with you
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know fancy ribbon and he opened it up to
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look and it was
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lingerie and he thought oo you know uh
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he was looking forward to
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that but then he never got to see
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it the biggest one was they had come
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back from a trip to Mexico with another
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couple and Rob strongly believed that
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Brenda was having an affair with the
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other
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man just the way they interacted during
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the trip the way they were always
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sneaking off together during the trip
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and it turned out to be
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true she was sinning but yet he forgave
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her he still wanted to be married to her
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he was not about to break that vow that
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was not something he ever wanted to even
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consider we knew that she was carrying
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on with some other men but just because
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of her doing whatever she was doing with
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the other gentleman didn't necessarily
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mean that she was going to be a uh a
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killer we got several men we need to
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speak to we have to make sure that that
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man wouldn't have a reason to want Rob
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gone detectives managed to track down
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one of Brenda's lovers he's a friend of
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her husband Rob and his name is
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Jim from Jim I found out that he had
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been involved in a affair with
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Brenda Jim was going over to the Andrew
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home when Rob wasn't
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there once Rob knew or found out Rob had
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actually told him I don't want you at my
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house and so he stopped going over there
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stayed away from Brenda he told me that
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it had ended after about 3
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months I've thought he was believable I
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don't think he had any reason to go over
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there and shoot
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robod this story continued to reveal
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different layers like an onion you're
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peeling all of this back and there are
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so many unknowns people started thinking
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who's this mystery person could this
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person have had anything to do with
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it 3 days after Thanksgiving Oklahoma
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City PD gets a call from and Rob's next
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door neighbors Judy and Dean
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gigstad they've just returned from
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Thanksgiving out of
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town they noticed there were some things
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in their home that weren't as they left
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them she notices her shoe rack is no
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longer in her closet it was broken and
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placed under her
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bed they noticed that the attic trap
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door is slightly a jar as if somebody
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has been recently in the
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attic and that's when she made the
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realization that somebody was in her
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house most likely the same person that
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killed her
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neighbor they're thinking that he's
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still up there with the you know with
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the murder weapon and watching whatever
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you're doing so they call 911
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police do not find an intruder in the
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house however the search of the gigstad
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home reveals surprising
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evidence we found a 16 gauge shotgun
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shell on the floor in one of the
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bedrooms one of our forensic
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investigators went to the attic and he
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located several 22 caliber
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bullets when the evidence is analyzed
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the detectives are informed that the
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ammunition found in the neighbor's home
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matched the two guns that were used to
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commit the murder and the shooting of
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Brenda you finding the shell case and in
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the home and that things Disturbed will
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make us believe that the suspect
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possibly ran over to the G that home and
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was actually in the home hiding out
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while we're at the crime scene
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investigating this would explain why
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there was not much of a trail to
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follow nobody saw the gunmen running
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from the
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neighborhood from the attic there's a
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window with a clear view to the garage
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where this crime was committed so it's
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very possible that the murderer had been
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stalking Brenda and
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Rob it doesn't take long for police to
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discover Rob has been in the crosshairs
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of a determined killer Oklahoma City
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Police Department hi there I'd like to
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report a clim my uh breake lines have
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been
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cut that sounds like attempted murder
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don't you think
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welcome back Thanksgiving is one of the
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busiest travel times of the whole year
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so many people leave town to visit
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family homes are often left
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empty that's when police discover Rob
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Andrew's killer has hidden in the
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neighbor's home
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detectives knew that the killer had been
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in the neighbor's house but there were
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no signs of forced
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entry so the question was how did they
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get in who had access to this
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house the gig stats told the police that
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their son Jeff had a key to their
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home they said that their son had came
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to the house before they came back from
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out of town
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he came over to the house to to grab
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something so I knew it would be
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important to talk to him about why he
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went to the house and when he
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went Jeff's Alibi was his wife and it
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was Brock
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solid on the evening of November 20th
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they attended a family
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Thanksgiving he really didn't have any
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connection to Rob
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Jeff informed the investigators that the
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day following the murder he stopped by
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his parents' home he was retrieving a
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playpen that he wanted for his little
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baby when Jeff picks up the playpen he
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just misses crossing paths with the
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killer who's hiding in his parents' home
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it's a premeditated murder plan
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detective Roland Garrett soon finds out
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it's not the first attempt on Rob's life
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life one morning in October Rob was
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backing out of his
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driveway and noticed that his brakes
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weren't
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working that's when he realized there
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was brake fluid in his
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driveway he took his car to a mechanic
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shop where they showed him that his
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brake lines have been cleanly
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cut it really seemed as if someone had
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purposefully tampered with his car oklah
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City Police Department hi I'd like to
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report a clim my uh brake lines have
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been
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cut that sounds like a Ed murder don't
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you
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think that same day Rob receives a call
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from an anonymous
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woman and she tells him that he needs to
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go to the hospital because Brenda had
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been in a car
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accident Rob this for you I was know
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that you need to go pick up youra at
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Norman Regal Hospital Rob Andrew has a
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friend drive him to the hospital but
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when he arrives wife Brenda is nowhere
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to be found she's never been in an
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accident it was just an attempt to get
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him to drive somewhere quickly and
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potentially have a wreck and either kill
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himself or seriously hurt
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himself Rob didn't recognize the voice
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from the woman that they called him he
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would have recognized Brenda's voice and
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it wasn't Brenda so now we got somebody
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else involved here we got another player
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we got to find out how deep they're
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involved in this and what else did they
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do beside make that phone call who is
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this unknown female caller given
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Brenda's history of multiple Affairs
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perhaps she had upset the wife of one of
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her lovers police had to consider it was
00:26:10
possibly a female
00:26:19
killer is the mysterious caller someone
00:26:23
in Brenda and Rob's circle of friends
00:26:26
detectives interview members of their
00:26:28
congregation and they uncover a critical
00:26:32
new lead we found that they had some
00:26:34
problems at the church Brenda had got in
00:26:38
some uh hot water at the church by the
00:26:40
way she was dressing she was starting to
00:26:43
wear low cut dresses and and dressed
00:26:45
like you know sexy for church that
00:26:48
definitely made a lot of them
00:26:51
suspicious Brenda was a uh Sunday school
00:26:53
teacher and at one point she was
00:26:55
teaching Sunday school with another
00:26:57
gentleman that they were seen by fellow
00:26:59
church members at lunch holding
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00:27:04
hands his name was James
00:27:09
Pat James Pat was very involved in his
00:27:11
church was an insurance man by trade and
00:27:15
uh very close with uh a lot of the
00:27:18
people in the church including
00:27:21
Rob they even went hunting
00:27:25
together James Pat even went to the
00:27:28
Andrew's house for dinner on occasion
00:27:31
and was very close with that
00:27:33
family it became very evident to the
00:27:36
congregation that Brenda and James were
00:27:38
having an
00:27:43
affair they were actually asked to step
00:27:45
down as Sunday school teachers as a
00:27:48
result of
00:27:54
that James was crazy about Brenda just
00:27:58
felt very connected to her and loved
00:28:01
Brenda dearly seems like he loved her so
00:28:04
much he would have done anything to keep
00:28:06
that love and that relationship
00:28:08
going James had left his wife earlier
00:28:12
that year for Brenda and so he had every
00:28:15
motive to want Brenda and Rob not to be
00:28:23
together James Pat was in the military
00:28:26
prior to his Insurance
00:28:30
life so highly skilled highly
00:28:33
trained James had training in sniper
00:28:36
shooting he was very comfortable around
00:28:40
guns something else about him is that he
00:28:42
walked around he bragged about being a
00:28:44
Commando and killing a bunch of people
00:28:47
in the
00:28:51
military based on the information that
00:28:53
we had James provided somebody that we
00:28:55
needed to consider as a possible suspect
00:28:59
we made several attempts to reach Mr Pat
00:29:03
calling his home going by uh never
00:29:06
located
00:29:07
him we eventually got a phone call from
00:29:10
his lawyer who said he wouldn't be
00:29:12
making himself available he's not going
00:29:14
to come in and
00:29:17
talk and then out of the blue detectives
00:29:20
get another phone call from Rob and
00:29:22
Brenda's nextdoor neighbor Judy gigstad
00:29:25
suddenly Judy remembered that they also
00:29:28
had given a key to their
00:29:31
neighbor Brenda
00:29:35
Andrew Brenda and Rob were friends with
00:29:38
them for years and anytime they would
00:29:39
leave town they would watch over what
00:29:42
was going on so they had a key knowing
00:29:44
that Brenda Andrew had a key that she
00:29:46
had access to the house and since she
00:29:49
was carrying on with James pach thinking
00:29:52
she might be
00:29:54
involved could she have been part of
00:29:57
this did she help plan this
00:30:02
attack if Rob Andrew is truly giving his
00:30:06
wife Brenda the divorce she wants why
00:30:09
would she and James pavot want to kill
00:30:12
him detectives focus on the details of
00:30:15
Rob and Brenda's divorce looking for a
00:30:18
motive Rob Andrew was kicked out of the
00:30:21
house the end of September a couple of
00:30:23
months before he was
00:30:24
murdered they had a legal separation he
00:30:27
was providing support money for Brendan
00:30:28
and kids but the Andrews were in dispute
00:30:32
about a $800,000 life insurance
00:30:36
policy Rob and Brenda had taken an
00:30:39
insurance policy out for Rob to take
00:30:41
care of Brenda and the kids in case
00:30:43
something were to happened to him
00:30:44
because they were his
00:30:46
everything but detectives discovered the
00:30:48
insurance policy on Rob
00:30:51
Andrew was written and prepared by James
00:30:55
Pat
00:31:00
$800,000 that has to be considered as a
00:31:02
possible motive for
00:31:06
murder especially because the very man
00:31:08
that had sold him the policy was now
00:31:10
having an affair with his
00:31:19
wife Thanksgiving marks the beginning of
00:31:22
the Christmas holiday when people get to
00:31:24
spend time with friends and family
00:31:27
people they whole deer for Brenda Andrew
00:31:31
this holiday is different for her it's
00:31:35
more of a nightmare she's recovering
00:31:37
from a gunshot wound her husband has
00:31:40
been murdered and now she's a suspect in
00:31:43
his
00:31:44
murder and what about Rob Andrew's
00:31:47
family they'll never have the
00:31:49
opportunity to share a holiday with Rob
00:31:53
instead they've got to plan his funeral
00:32:01
it was just really sad to think that
00:32:05
something this horrific happened right
00:32:07
before the Thanksgiving
00:32:09
holiday where you get together around
00:32:11
the table with your family you get to
00:32:13
spend time with your loved ones and he
00:32:15
shows up to pick up his kids and he gets
00:32:17
killed in the garage by now rumors are
00:32:21
circulating about Brenda's possible
00:32:23
involvement in her husband Rob's murder
00:32:26
the feeling going into any funeral is
00:32:29
bad enough but Rob's funeral was very
00:32:31
strange because everyone was sort of
00:32:34
wondering is Brenda going to show up we
00:32:37
were outside of the church and I I just
00:32:42
I remember thinking Brenda and his
00:32:45
children were not
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00:32:50
there they actually held the service for
00:32:54
about an hour hoping they would show up
00:33:01
and they
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[Music]
00:33:06
didn't who doesn't show up to their own
00:33:09
spouse's funeral and doesn't let the
00:33:11
kids come to their dad's funeral how
00:33:13
heartless do you have to be at that
00:33:15
point when she didn't show up the
00:33:16
funeral I knew she had
00:33:18
fled I was like she is leaving town
00:33:29
we received a phone call and we're
00:33:31
advised that Brenda and the kids were
00:33:33
not at the funeral so we went by the
00:33:35
house to see if they were there or they
00:33:37
weren't there detectives go to James
00:33:40
Pat's home next they discover he's also
00:33:43
packed up and gone can't reach them on
00:33:46
the phone can't find them
00:33:49
anywhere they didn't
00:33:55
vanished with Brenda's disappearance is
00:33:58
looking more and more likely she is
00:34:00
James pavot's accomplice in Rob's murder
00:34:04
investigators still don't know the
00:34:05
identity of the woman who called Rob
00:34:08
when his brake lines were cut but can't
00:34:11
they go from just suspecting Brenda to
00:34:14
proving she's actually involved in
00:34:17
husband Rob's
00:34:19
murder detective Roland Garrett comes up
00:34:22
with a plan and the forensic science
00:34:24
needed to make it work when I spoke to
00:34:27
to Brenda down at the hospital I
00:34:29
collected her clothing for
00:34:32
evidence she had some gunshot residue on
00:34:35
her blouse so we had it analyzed Brenda
00:34:39
sustained only a minor wound which is a
00:34:43
little odd considering that her husband
00:34:45
had been shot twice with a shotgun and
00:34:47
that she had only been shot by a smaller
00:34:49
caliber weapon in the
00:34:51
arm The Gunshot was found to be a close
00:34:55
contact wound with which means it was uh
00:34:59
2 to 4 in away from her skin when the
00:35:01
gun was
00:35:03
fired what this meant to the
00:35:06
investigators is that she was shot at
00:35:08
close range not from across the garage
00:35:11
as she had told
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[Music]
00:35:15
them forensic evidence also showed that
00:35:18
blood spatter found on Brenda's jeans
00:35:20
belonged to
00:35:22
rob it indicated that she had to have
00:35:26
been close by with within a foot or so
00:35:29
of her husband when he was shot and
00:35:31
killed so that tells us that the second
00:35:33
shotgun blast that he received came from
00:35:40
her and when she shot him it splattered
00:35:43
back onto her
00:35:52
jeans just 3 weeks before Christmas the
00:35:55
last piece of the puzzle falls into play
00:35:58
we get a phone call from an attorney
00:35:59
that wants to bring a witness in and
00:36:01
talk to us and that witness is James
00:36:04
Pat's daughter and she has some
00:36:07
information for
00:36:08
us her name was Jan
00:36:11
Larson we found out that she was the
00:36:13
woman that had made the phone call
00:36:16
telling Rob to drive to the hospital
00:36:20
Rob need to go pick up your at Norman
00:36:25
Hospital she said she was asked to do
00:36:27
that Our
00:36:30
Father Janet didn't know all the details
00:36:32
of what was happening in that
00:36:34
relationship between Brenda and Rob and
00:36:37
her dad James Pat she was coerced into
00:36:41
doing
00:36:43
it that was probably the last piece of
00:36:46
evidence that we needed at the time we
00:36:48
were able to get a warrant for both
00:36:51
Brenda and James provide for Murder One
00:37:00
detectives contact the FBI and very soon
00:37:04
an international Manhunt is underway for
00:37:06
wife Brenda Andrew and Her Lover James
00:37:10
pavot daughter Jana lson agrees to work
00:37:13
with authorities she tells them
00:37:16
everything she knows and the same day as
00:37:19
Rob Andrew's funeral James Pat actually
00:37:21
showed up at her house and he had Brenda
00:37:24
Andrew and the kids were with him they
00:37:26
were outside in a van he got on her
00:37:29
computer and he was looking up what
00:37:31
countries wouldn't extradite back to the
00:37:34
United States it seems Brenda Andrew and
00:37:37
James pavot are planning to celebrate
00:37:40
another holiday Christmas with the
00:37:42
children South of the
00:37:44
Border they left Jan Larson's house in
00:37:47
vehicles heading south they were headed
00:37:49
to Mexico what she thought and we also
00:37:52
knew that they didn't have a lot of
00:37:54
money uh most of the money had already
00:37:56
been frozen in their accounts and
00:37:58
eventually the money may run out and it
00:38:00
might help us capture the detectives
00:38:03
were doing everything they could to look
00:38:05
for them and it went on for
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[Music]
00:38:10
months it was a tough Thanksgiving and a
00:38:13
tougher Christmas in a way because they
00:38:15
were
00:38:17
gone nobody knew where they
00:38:20
were were they alive we didn't
00:38:25
know everyone was really concerned for
00:38:28
the
00:38:28
[Music]
00:38:31
kids but also just wanting Justice for
00:38:36
Rob and it with every day they were gone
00:38:38
it was just more and more infuriating
00:38:40
that they were going to get away with
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[Music]
00:38:49
it after the brutal murder of her
00:38:52
husband Rob Brenda Andrew and her sex
00:38:56
partner James pav fought take her two
00:38:59
children they flee to Mexico during the
00:39:02
holidays Rob Andrew's family and friends
00:39:04
are forced to spend Christmas not just
00:39:07
without him but without his children too
00:39:10
meanwhile detectives are piecing
00:39:13
together the details of Rob's
00:39:15
[Music]
00:39:16
murder what happened on the night of
00:39:18
November 20th 2001 was predetermined
00:39:23
Brenda had planned this she knew that
00:39:26
Rob was coming to to pick up his
00:39:30
children she asked him to come into the
00:39:32
garage and light the pilot light knowing
00:39:35
all long that she was luring him to his
00:39:40
death and Pat was already in the
00:39:45
garage he came around probably from
00:39:47
behind the
00:39:48
minivan shot him with the first
00:39:51
shot she took the shotgun shot him with
00:39:56
the second shot
00:40:00
and then vat took the 22 and shot her in
00:40:04
the
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[Music]
00:40:08
arm he left the house go next door she
00:40:12
went in the house CAU out one
00:40:15
more I've been shot my husband's been
00:40:18
shot okay you and your husand have both
00:40:21
been shot yes who shot
00:40:24
you I don't know was
00:40:27
I don't know they had on black mask I
00:40:29
don't know oh my God there's blood
00:40:32
everywhere it was some evil a lot of
00:40:34
evil going on with Brenda she was all
00:40:37
about money she wanted that insurance
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[Music]
00:40:41
money weeks turn into months hope fading
00:40:45
that Rob Andrews Killers will ever be
00:40:48
brought to Justice the warrants were out
00:40:51
for the arrest of Brenda and James but
00:40:54
they were no longer in the country it's
00:40:57
much harder to capture somebody when
00:41:00
they're out of your
00:41:02
jurisdiction once they cross the border
00:41:05
they warn was going to be something that
00:41:06
Mexican authorities could arrest them
00:41:09
on but then at some point James Pat
00:41:12
started calling
00:41:16
Jana she had a conversation with her
00:41:19
father who was in Mexico with Brenda
00:41:21
they were running out of money and
00:41:23
didn't know what to
00:41:26
do the FBI worked with Jana to lur James
00:41:31
and Brenda back to the United States
00:41:33
where they could be
00:41:36
arrested Janna promised her dad that she
00:41:40
could get them money James pavot is out
00:41:43
of options the couple on the run and
00:41:46
they need money he agrees to his
00:41:48
daughter's plan and he returns to the
00:41:53
US police notify border officials to be
00:41:56
on the lookout
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[Music]
00:41:58
3 months after the murder they came back
00:42:01
to the border and one of the border
00:42:04
patrol agents was familiar with the
00:42:06
bulletin that was
00:42:09
out we got the phone
00:42:12
call they were
00:42:20
captured they were taken into custody
00:42:23
and charged with the murder of Rob
00:42:25
Andrew
00:42:28
the kids were found unharmed and they
00:42:31
were sent to be with Rob's
00:42:37
family it was such a relief to hear that
00:42:41
knowing that Brenda and James were
00:42:42
caught but knowing the kids were safe
00:42:45
that was even
00:42:47
[Music]
00:42:50
better James Pat's trial was first it
00:42:54
lasted a few weeks the key witness at
00:42:56
the trial was a V daughter
00:42:59
Jan you always wonder like you know the
00:43:03
jury doesn't know Rob like I know Rob
00:43:06
are they going to get it right we always
00:43:09
worried that they're going to get away
00:43:10
with it but luckily they
00:43:13
didn't James was convicted of the
00:43:16
first-degree murder of Rob Andrew and he
00:43:18
was sentenced to
00:43:24
death August 2004 Brenda Andrew's trial
00:43:29
begins when I saw her again at trial she
00:43:34
didn't have any remorse in her face or
00:43:36
her
00:43:43
actions I think the timing of Brenda's
00:43:46
crime was purely opportunistic she knew
00:43:51
that Rob was going to come and get those
00:43:53
children for the holiday and he would
00:43:56
probably have his guard down here
00:44:00
is a father showing up to get his kids
00:44:04
on his way to celebrate a beautiful
00:44:07
holiday with his family and his children
00:44:12
and
00:44:13
just how could you do
00:44:17
that I mean I do believe in evil and I
00:44:20
do believe she is evil within a month
00:44:23
Brenda Andrew is found guilty for the
00:44:25
murder of husband Rob and she is
00:44:28
sentenced to the death penalty having
00:44:30
here to found that defendant Brenda iers
00:44:33
Andrew guilty of murder in the first
00:44:35
degree fix her punishment at
00:44:38
death when I heard that first James was
00:44:42
found guilty and then especially when
00:44:45
Brenda was found guilty uh I was
00:44:48
overjoyed I was so happy that they
00:44:51
didn't get away with it as clever as she
00:44:54
thought she was all the steps they had
00:44:56
taken
00:44:57
they underestimated the way things
00:45:00
work to orchestrate and commit a crime
00:45:03
killing the father of the children
00:45:06
Thanksgiving
00:45:08
time it had to be a a evil vindictive
00:45:12
person you know you reap what you s
00:45:15
James pavot is currently sitting on the
00:45:18
Oklahoma death row awaiting his
00:45:21
execution date Brenda Andrew waiting for
00:45:24
her execution date in the Mabel Basset
00:45:27
CI Correctional Institution in McLoud
00:45:30
Oklahoma she's currently the only woman
00:45:33
on death row in the entire state of
00:45:37
Oklahoma I think about Rob every
00:45:40
Thanksgiving it's just impossible not
00:45:43
to he sort of embodied the idea of the
00:45:46
holidays the spirit of the holidays you
00:45:48
know being with your family being
00:45:50
thankful for what you have cherishing
00:45:52
those times that that was who he was
00:45:57
so I always want to think about his life
00:46:00
and not his death and be thankful for uh
00:46:03
the time that I did get with
00:46:07
[Music]
00:46:11
him what should have been a wonderful
00:46:15
and joyous holiday Shattered by cheating
00:46:19
infidelity and murder a horrible and
00:46:23
tragic end to the marriage of a loving
00:46:26
dad an evil wife and her ruthless sex
00:46:31
partner I'm Nancy Grace thank you for
00:46:34
joining us here on the Christmas
00:46:37
killings
00:46:46
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