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there's uh still a war raging but uh I
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wanted to get an update from Friedberg
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on the food crisis which he
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um predicted very early for a lot
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further fertilizer prices are still
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climbing like crazy
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there's been some food rioting in China
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which I think is a separate issue Hill
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educate us in a minute Sri Lanka
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so what is your theory of what we're
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going to do from here Friedberg because
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I think we're all waiting for this shoe
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to drop and I think you predicted this
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is something that we would experience
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into the fall and into next year so
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when are we going to actually see these
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food riots occurring and then as China's
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food rights have anything to do with
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this or does that have to do with a yeah
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I would put the Chinese food riots as
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kind of a separate localized supply
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chain problem related to the lockdowns
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got it but we're definitely uh you know
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I think I mentioned last week the USDA
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planting report showing in the U.S how
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acreage is being reduced on corn and
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and and we're seeing this around the
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world where acres are coming out of
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production or less fertilizers being
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used which means Less Foods being made
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so everything that we predicted I mean
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this is a slow train a Titanic into the
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iceberg that we're watching right now
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and it's going to continue for nine to
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18 months
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so you know one of the questions that
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people are now asking which I said you
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know would become a really critical next
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step in this crisis is how are we going
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to bridge the gap in calories where is
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the food going to come from
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and how are we going to feed Nations
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that are almost entirely dependent on
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Imports that are running out of food or
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out of food so I've mentioned this in
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the past the whole world runs on a
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90-day food supply which means roughly
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25 percent of the world's calories are
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in storage right now but that's not the
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case uniformly so some countries like
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Tunisia and Somalia Ethiopia have close
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to zero calories in storage some
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countries
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um like uh the United States are roughly
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you know 30 40 percent of our you know
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annual consumed calories are sitting in
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storage China is a complete outlier for
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yours China has been stockpiling food
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and at this point china has a hundred
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and fifty percent of their annual
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consumption of food in storage so they
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have supplies that if all food
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production and imports stopped in China
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they would be able to feed their
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population for one and a half years
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that's an incredible supply of food so
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as you look around the world to places
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like Sri Lanka and places like like
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Somalia that are struggling to figure
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out how are we going to bridge this gap
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on calories that's about to hit us
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Egypt's about four months of food by the
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way and Egypt is dwindling they cannot
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get the food
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um Out of the Black Sea
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so China is going to be one of the very
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few potential solutions for Bridging the
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calorie Gap over the next year
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and I have a strong prediction and a
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strong belief that because of that China
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will use it to maximal leverage and we
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will see over the next year an
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incredible amount of Leverage and power
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being accumulated by China because of
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transactions that they're going to start
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to enter into to bridge the calorie Gap
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around the world so in the Horn of
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Africa for example there has been this
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continuous presence of China trying to
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give themselves a military base trying
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to take a um some influence over local
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media and there's been this kind of push
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and pull with the you know certain
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populations around whether or not we
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should kind of embrace China locally and
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I think that for example the the food
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crisis that we're seeing emerge in
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Ethiopia Somalia Eritrea Djibouti is
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going to be resolved by China and China
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is going to end up gaining influence
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gaining military presence and
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establishing a more permanent foothold
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in the Horn of Africa because of the
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position that they're in of strength
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with all these calories
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and the and the need in these regions
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that's not just there Sri Lanka
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other parts of Southeast Asia
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even Western Africa Northern Africa
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China is going to show up and they're
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the only country that can show up the
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U.N the world food program they're going
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to do everything they can to shuffle
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calories around change Food Supplies but
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I do think that one of the things that
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everyone's going to be watching and it's
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it's a slow roll this isn't going to be
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some one big deal and everyone wakes up
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over the next year while the U.S is you
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know trying to do everything we can to
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maximally imposed sanctions on Russia
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China is slowly turning the crank around
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the world on the influence that they are
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going to gain because of this food
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crisis and the absolute
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um uh you know Surplus that they have
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locally and the ability to export that
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Surplus to support needs around the
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world and it's not going to be free it's
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not going to be cheap so I thought it
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was worth highlighting what we're seeing
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and I shared a couple of articles with
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you guys and with Nick articles that no
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one is paying attention to and this
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isn't some conspiratorial oh my God
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there's some dangerous thing happening
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I'm just pointing out one of the things
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that's happening as we talk about you
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know the great change in power the shift
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in power globally that's happening it is
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happening in a very significant way this
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year given the Surplus that China has
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the dirt that many countries have and
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the inability for the U.S to really
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adequately respond to the food crisis
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that that's emerging
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um and so I thought it was worth
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bringing to everyone's attention there's
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a lot of little articles that support
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this point I shared them with you guys
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you guys can put them in the show notes
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and and put them up on YouTube and
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whatever
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um but I think this is going to become a
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macro Trend that we're going to wake up
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to in six to nine months and be like
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whoa what the heck happened you know how
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how did China get so much leverage
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around the world and it's it's starting
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now
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that's what happens with every war you
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know we all we go in hot you know we
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it's you know raw raw we're all gung-ho
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and then at some point in time we're
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like wait a second why do we do that you
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know
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and you know and look there's no
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shortage of of neocons and liberal
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interventionists who are all saying this
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war is wonderful for us because it's
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reunited the American Alliance and the
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Western Alliance and that this has been
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this war is a good thing for us let's
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keep it going let's bleed Russia let's
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topple Putin let's deep stabilizer
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regime they're in favor of protracted
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conflict that I've been you know warning
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against and what Friedberg is saying is
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the longer this conflict goes on the
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more of these disaster scenarios are
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going to materialize
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what are you what is your take on how
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crippled Putin is right now David just
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objectively and again you're not a fan
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of Putin
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is the ship like I mean this does not
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look good for him
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um
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it feels like he can't and he's losing
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all his tanks I mean this seems like I
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don't know anything you don't know in
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terms of you know I'm just a consumer of
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information but I tend to think that we
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are overly optimistic in the west and
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look the war's clearly gone very bad for
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Putin but this idea that everything that
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magically we're going to get regime
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change in Moscow we're gonna get
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Gorbachev 2.0
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that that is that is an objective worth
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protracting this war for uh I tend to
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think it's going to be a mistake I mean
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that that's now
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doesn't mean I support Russia's Invasion
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I've said it's illegal it's a crime it's
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a violation of international law it's a
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humanitarian disaster but what I've
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supported is a is a uh negotiated piece
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a settlement that we try to get as
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quickly as possible that is clearly not
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the administration's position on this
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they want to keep this thing going and
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you know this idea that that a long war
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is good for America's alliances I would
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disagree with that because you're
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already seeing all over the world now
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people are starting to object to
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American policy you saw it with India
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and India is the world's largest
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democracy they should be on our side
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they definitely should not be on China's
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side because they have a huge they're
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not late intention but
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China and India are both de facto on
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Russia Asylum than this
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Africa and large parts of Latin America
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India would like to have oil
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they would like to maintain their
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relationship with Russia and they did
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not support the denunciation of Russia
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they would like to see this conflict and
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large parts of Africa would like to see
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it end Latin America basically all the
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victims uh if there's a famine in the
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world in six months like Friedberg is
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saying they are all very worried about
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this all of them have expressed concern
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with the American policy which seems to
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be to protract this war okay Freeburg
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you have to go do your talk at Berkeley
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congratulations and we'll see you next
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time thanks for the contribution
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Tremont any thoughts on the um CPI we
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set a record that seemed to have gotten
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lost in the the haze of Twitter I
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learned something really interesting
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that I just wanted to share with you
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guys
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um so there was a big CPI print
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obviously but there was a report
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probably not many people read it
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but it was about uh home equity
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and the takeaway was that since 2020
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Americans have taken to 430 I think the
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exact number is 427. 427 billion dollars
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of home equity out of their homes and
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effectively spent it
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so what it what it started to make me
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think about was if you look at all of
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that home equity plus the stemi checks
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plus the unemployment insurance checks
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that starts to explain I think why the
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labor markets are so tight and why
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people haven't gone back to work they
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are just no motivation because there's
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just so much money sloshing around for
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them to basically not have to be forced
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to do any of this stuff that they don't
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want to anymore
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and I think the the thing to keep in
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mind is like that's also what's gone
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into the stock market it's also what's
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Driven up the price of used cars new
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cars all of the stuff
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I just think that kind of like starts to
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paint a picture of CPI that's really
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important which is that it's probably a
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little bit more transitory
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than we may actually think because when
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you exhaust all of that extra money
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there's not as much inflation to be had
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and I think most people are now
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forecasting that inflation is really
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going to taper off and the big warning
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sign that everybody is sort of you know
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marching towards is you know too many
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excessive rate hikes between now and the
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end of the year could actually push us
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into a real recession and we were
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talking about that before but the
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probability is now sort of like one in
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three whereas before I think you know
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David and I sounded a little bit crazy
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when we were talking about it so I just
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wanted to put that out there as
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something I learned this week that I
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thought was really important
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participation rate peaked at 67 68
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percent
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but half a trillion dollars I mean half
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a trillion dollars of actual spending in
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the economy that's a ton of money to be
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absorbed right if people have a couple
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of hundred grand in their bank account
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who own homes or whatever there's no
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need to go back to a job and if you
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don't feel safe because you maybe still
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have some coveted fears you don't want
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to commute or you're just out of the
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Rhythm for two years and you're like I'm
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kind of enjoying skiing or whatever
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you're doing whatever your jam is maybe
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there's no
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there's no rush to get back you'll wait
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until you you'll wait until you exhaust
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all of that yeah
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this is a this is and then we're not as
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we talked about we're not letting people
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into the country at the same time so you
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still have 10 million job openings
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if that flips that would be economic
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activity that would be helpful in
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flighting fighting against
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a recession correct
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I mean I I think that that we're
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probably going to have a a quarter or
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two contraction
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it's probably going to happen sort of at
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the late end of this year beginning of
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next year just the real question is how
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how high are rates between now and then
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and again I think the setup isn't very
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good which is that the
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investors in the stock market are
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playing chicken with the fed and you
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know they're just at the beginning of a
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rate cycle and they haven't been able to
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impact any real forms of liquidity in
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the equity Market and so I think they're
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gonna they're going to attack that and
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the only blunt force instrument they
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have is rates and so you know you could
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see rates of three three and a half
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percent and that's going to impact a lot
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of stuff and the problem is that you
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know uh it's going to be after the
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economy has slowed down because it's
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going to be after a lot of these
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you know fake savings if you will um
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have been depleted yeah well we're
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seeing some pressure come off as well
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the car shortage is kind of ending
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and wages have raised so that it seems
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like they're in in this
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you know Confluence of events certain
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things are starting to work themselves
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out are you hey can I tell you something
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else I was I was in Washington uh this
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week the number of people that listen to
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our pod it is incredible
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people in Washington care about our
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views on politics it's incredible I've
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heard that feedback too yeah it's really
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really really special we've we've
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stumbled into something pretty cool and
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the fact that it's like must it's it's
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it's uh it's must listening it's must
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listen it's like a Sunday weekly show
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you just get a different perspective
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from the tech sector and capital
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allocators that maybe you don't get on
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us you know beat the press or something
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yeah but just to follow up on that
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inflation point the economic Point Jason
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if I can so please
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so look the main reason inflation is
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going to go down in the second half of
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this year is because inflation is
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measured on a year-over-year basis and
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you remember about a year ago is when
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inflation started but you know around
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this time last year inflation was only
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two and a half percent then it reached
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five percent by the summer then by the
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end of the year was almost eight percent
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so as we sort of lap last year's
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inflation rate we come up against you
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know you're copying against uh 7.8
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number last year so I don't think
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inflation's going to get any better
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we're probably looking at roughly a 12
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percent you know official two-year
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inflation number so in other words since
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Biden took over as president you're
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looking at probably 12 to 13 percent of
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total inflation as measured by CPI and
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that is why even though the headline
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number will come down later this year I
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don't think the American people are
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going to feel any better about the
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situation you can almost predict that
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gen sake or whoever replaces her at the
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podium at the White House briefing room
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they're going to be touting these lower
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inflation numbers at the end of the year
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but it doesn't mean price levels will
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have decreased prices will still be very
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high when people go to the grocery store
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they buy meat or bread or what have you
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it's going to be very expensive and I
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don't think people are going to be
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feeling better off and there's going to
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be a lot of negativity going into the
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November election for this
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Administration and also I think it's
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going to impact consumption I mean if
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you're going to a gas station and you I
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mean I drove the minivan to LA
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and it's the only electric it's only
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non-electric car we have we happen to
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drive it because we had a number of
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people that was bigger than the X and
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uh it was like shocking to buy seven
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dollar gasoline and obviously I can uh
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would stand you know filling up but I
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could see people saying you know what
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maybe I'm not going to make that
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incremental trip or you know you start
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looking at some of the prices yeah you
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know for taking a trip or flights I
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don't know if you've looked at flights
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or hotels like things are starting to
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creep up that it's like super noticeable
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and that's got to affect consumption and
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then that what would be what would be
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part of those negative two quarters
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right shamath I mean the role of people
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stopping consuming and just saying you
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know what yeah it's too expensive right
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now just I'll stay at home and watch
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Netflix [Â __Â ] it you know I'll cook pasta
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tonight you see that happening already
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yeah people are starting to balance the
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balance sheet just looking at the
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balance sheet and saying you know what
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what's a way I can you know cut some
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expensive items off the you know I'll
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ride a bike they're going to take less
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travel because you know the cost of
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airline tickets have gone up because the
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cost of the jet fuel has gone up it all
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it all ripples through the economy um
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but I think the thing is that when
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when the FED gets involved though they
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get involved in you know in a Brute
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Force way let me make a prediction right
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now if we're we're definitely headed
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into an economic slowdown I don't know
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if it will meet the technical definition
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of recession but very high negative
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quarters of growth yeah you know very
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high chance I think of recession like
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jamas said towards the end of the year
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if this war is still going on and we get
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in a recession Look Out Below I think
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this President will be in Jimmy Carter
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territory he began the year at 38 that
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was in reasonably good conditions of
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Peace time if you know and I tweeted at
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the beginning of the year in January I
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said that you know this is you know
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you're at 38 that's with peace and
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prosperity Look Out Below if we get
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recession and War that's what it's
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looking like right now so um you know I
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think this is things are looking pretty
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pretty dire which is why I keep saying
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it you know the policy this
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Administration should be to try and find
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a settlement to the situation in Ukraine
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to this War I know that we didn't start
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it Putin started it let's be clear but
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if there's an off-ramp here we should be
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seizing it because we got real problems
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back home in America and the
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administration should be focused on our
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economy and our problems
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Europe is going to be the canary in the
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coal mine on all of this because I think
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they feel this uh pretty severely and I
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think there's a a lot of exhaustion
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amongst European governments and leaders
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when you start to listen to this
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rhetoric
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to kind of you know find a way to end
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what's going on over there because the
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they're gonna see
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a pretty meaningful recession I think
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yeah absolutely much more much more so
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than we will yeah and if you look if you
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look right now what's happening in
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France Marine Le Pen is surging
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unbelievable against macron I don't know
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if she's going to pull off the upset but
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one of the major pillars well actually
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here's what she's running on she is
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saying that she has been focused on
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inflation and cost of living and she
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says macron has been distracted by being
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America's basically lap dog puppet
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whatever on Ukraine so she's saying we
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need to focus on the French economy and
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she's also saying that we as France
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should set our own follower policy and
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not be so differential to the U.S she
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says that this protracted war in Ukraine
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and all this hot rhetoric coming out of
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the bite Administration about war crimes
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and destabilizing Putin and toppling him
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and putting him on trial at the hay that
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is not in French interest that's what
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the Americans want to do but it's not
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what we should be wanting to do we need
00:19:09
to end this war and I'm not ready to say
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she's going to pull off the upside yet
00:19:13
but she is clearly articulating that
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message because she is finding purchase
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with the French electorate based on that
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message and you're going to hear that if
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this war continues for three months and
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six months and Europe goes into
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recession you're going to start hearing
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uh politicians all over the European
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continent saying the same thing and
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questioning American leadership and why
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are they are dragging this thing out the
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the thing that's the scariest thing
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about the French election
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and I'm not sure how many Americans uh
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paid attention to it but just to maybe
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summarize in a very quick nutshell you
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actually had this really interesting
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Dynamic of three candidates
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one was what would be considered far
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left uh Jean-Luc Menasha one far right
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marrying Le Pen and then one that was
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very Centrist Emmanuel Metro and what's
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crazy is both of these two were you know
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22 plus percent of all of the votes
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it was just that Le Pen and macron were
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one and two and so they go into a runoff
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election and you know malshawn was very
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clear he was like under no circumstance
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should any of my supporters vote for Le
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Pen
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but it just shows you what's happening
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which is like France which is you know
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sort of coming undone under this
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populist fight
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um is probably uh a canary in the coal
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mine for how this stuff could play out
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in other places and it's kind of scary
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it'd be interesting to see what happens
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in Germany as well as they look at this
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enabling of they were able to hold the
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line they you know they still have a
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center right government but you know in
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Austria for a while that wasn't the case
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in Hungary it's not really the case
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um so there's a lot of countries at
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least in the Eastern Bloc of of Europe
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where you've you've seen a tip in One
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Direction or the other
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um it's not unreasonable to think of
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that in France it could tip in One
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Direction or the other fortunately in
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the UK or unfortunately however you look
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at it it's still really a two-party
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system
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um for the most part I think
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so I don't know we're in a really uh
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precarious moment in world history I
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think
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yeah
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by the way I want to talk about one
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thing that I talked at the end of last
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year I talked about just a very random
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thing
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um about you know uh visa and MasterCard
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and how you could short them
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um or you know like basically like the
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payment networks we're gonna start to
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get you know dismantled this year
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it's really interesting to see I don't
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know if you guys have been really paying
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attention to all the activity that's
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been happening in payments over like the
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last
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literally 90 days I think has been
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really incredible up into you know just
00:21:50
today you know visa and MasterCard I
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think are doing the single dumbest thing
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they could do by being a duopoly which
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is Raising prices especially into an
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inflationary moment which just lacks
00:22:01
complete knowledge and sensitivity of
00:22:04
the moment so damp economic activity but
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also creates the incentives for
00:22:09
disruption sure right because then the
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gap between you and your next Killer's
00:22:13
competitor becomes more obvious and
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again in capitalism you compete away
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these advantages and I just think that
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uh the setup is becoming more and more
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obvious for the shift in payments I just
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think it's quite interesting so Dick
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Durbin actually today basically is going
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to create a big you know hubbub in the
00:22:29
Senate around these increasing Merchant
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fees which will eventually spill over to
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Consumers
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there's some talk that you know uh I I
00:22:36
what is it called zelly uh is that how
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you pronounce it zelly the the the the
00:22:41
the inner Bank payment system people
00:22:43
were talking about them converting that
00:22:44
to becoming a more substantive payment
00:22:46
system and then this week
00:22:48
I was able to see a little bit under the
00:22:50
hood of you know Solana pay
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and that's really exciting so it's all
00:22:57
coming I think like uh it's like a swarm
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of activity uh to dismantle these
00:23:02
payments businesses I just wanted to
00:23:03
just
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give the 90-day update from our from our
00:23:07
discussion in January all right
00:23:08
everybody uh we will see you may 15th
00:23:10
16th and 17th in Miami for the first all
00:23:13
in Summit now sold out no more tickets
00:23:15
available there's a waitlist but we're
00:23:17
not going to be able to get to anybody
00:23:18
on it sorry you can sign up and we'll
00:23:20
make sure you know about next year if
00:23:21
there is a next year this might be a one
00:23:23
and done kind of situation three amazing
00:23:25
parties Sunday night is our poker
00:23:27
tournament for charity the top uh it's
00:23:29
gonna be a sit and go format if you win
00:23:31
your sit and go you go into a sit and go
00:23:34
bake off and then you get to sit at the
00:23:36
final table with the four besties the
00:23:38
winners are going to get to make a
00:23:39
donation to the charity of their choice
00:23:41
uh paid for by the besties and Sunday
00:23:44
night's party will be the Goodfellas
00:23:45
party Monday is going to be the Havana
00:23:47
White Party bring your linen sacks I
00:23:49
know you got a whole closet fall down
00:23:50
there and then uh Tuesday night's our
00:23:52
Miami Vice party here are the mock-ups
00:23:56
this is the first time I'm seeing it
00:23:58
yeah it's a little reveal there's a lot
00:24:01
of work the copy I didn't write we're
00:24:03
workshopping it it's just we we got a
00:24:05
little uh what do they call that like a
00:24:07
mood board it's a little bit of a mood
00:24:08
board here is your wet your beaks party
00:24:10
for Sunday night it's gonna be a good
00:24:12
Fellas theme should be a lot of fun it
00:24:15
looks like Good Fellas it looks like
00:24:17
Goodfellas we're gonna keep working on
00:24:19
it uh wet your Beats probably not gonna
00:24:20
be the name of your party but that's
00:24:22
Sunday night and then next up is our
00:24:24
Havana White Party despite all the [Â __Â ]
00:24:27
you take uh you do such a good job with
00:24:29
this [Â __Â ] thank you and then we're going
00:24:31
to have this this social club I
00:24:34
apologize but I think this is complete
00:24:36
dog [Â __Â ] this one the first one supposed
00:24:37
to be Buenavista Social Club you're just
00:24:39
a heathe and you never saw that the
00:24:41
first one is so good this is horrendous
00:24:42
well I don't even know what is this
00:24:44
picture of but it's it's a it's a theme
00:24:46
on the Buena Vista Social Club it's it's
00:24:48
not the right image but we're
00:24:49
workshopping it like I said but yeah
00:24:51
that's gonna be a Havana White Party
00:24:52
everybody's gonna wear linens on Monday
00:24:53
night and that's going to be at a
00:24:55
beautiful space
00:24:57
like I said this is just a designer
00:24:59
coming up with ideas and then of course
00:25:01
we're gonna have our Miami Vice we're
00:25:02
going to rent a couple of um oh that are
00:25:04
like Miami Ventures and so that we are
00:25:07
and so that should be our at 420 Bitcoin
00:25:10
Street your best 80s dress for Miami
00:25:13
Venture so it's gonna be three parties
00:25:15
that is uh that's hot I think it's gonna
00:25:17
be uh three great parties you have to
00:25:20
but everybody's gonna have to get three
00:25:21
great outfits so linens are easy Monday
00:25:23
night Jake out your your thighs look
00:25:25
really big in this photo well this is
00:25:27
fat Jay cow this is not 167 Jacob this
00:25:30
is 198 Jayco on your left leg you can't
00:25:34
tell where your bottom part of the leg
00:25:36
stops because I'm sitting in a stool in
00:25:38
that picture they got but yeah
00:25:40
but it's like you have no knee it's just
00:25:42
like one big shank like yeah well you
00:25:44
know what it's when you're fat and you
00:25:46
got fat suits you know everything's
00:25:48
listen I'm looking at pictures of myself
00:25:50
why didn't you guys fat shame me more
00:25:51
that's the question I have you guys
00:25:54
should have been good
00:25:55
you really look incredible and then
00:25:57
yesterday when I saw you I was like holy
00:25:59
[Â __Â ] this guy looks really fantastic
00:26:01
look there's no knee there it's just
00:26:02
there's no name it's like a snake it's
00:26:04
like big shank you know what when you're
00:26:05
a fat guy you get fat suits you just try
00:26:07
to you know and now I'm having to
00:26:09
rebound look at that fat face zoom out
00:26:12
oh my God zoom out zoom out look
00:26:14
terrible flat hair
00:26:16
looking nice no you look good I look
00:26:18
fabulous let's go with this one let's go
00:26:21
with this you look great yeah we're
00:26:23
gonna redo mine I want all the photos
00:26:24
done of Vin Jay cow for the inspiration
00:26:27
don't no double chin what are you doing
00:26:28
you work for me okay
00:26:31
where's my neck now I got a neck again I
00:26:35
found my neck everybody there you have
00:26:36
it folks so uh I'm sorry if you did not
00:26:38
get into the all in Summit but we've got
00:26:40
a great lineup of speakers and events
00:26:43
planned no press because well we have
00:26:47
the same distribution but we will the
00:26:49
Press will be able to see all the talks
00:26:51
so all the talks will come out post
00:26:52
event on the all-in feed so for the 10
00:26:55
days after the island feed you're going
00:26:56
to get a show every day and who are our
00:26:58
confirmed speakers at this point oh my
00:27:00
Lord so many good ones hold on let me
00:27:01
pull it up here Keith of a boy
00:27:04
Palmer lucky is coming uh oh good so
00:27:07
that's confirmed that's awesome yeah we
00:27:08
got that confirmed he's a big fan of
00:27:10
Saxy Pooh the new website's up by the
00:27:13
way and it looks beautiful wow look at
00:27:14
this so we have uh Ryan Peterson uh Nate
00:27:18
silver Brad gerstner uh Claire uh vickel
00:27:21
who is amazing uh Mar hershon Palmer
00:27:24
lucky Keith raboy Joe Lawrence oh you
00:27:26
got Antonio to want to speak Antonio is
00:27:29
now coming out of a shell Antonio Garcia
00:27:31
Martinez
00:27:33
you should get um we should get some
00:27:35
foreign policy folks too I mean well if
00:27:38
you guys wanted to do any [Â __Â ] work
00:27:40
you could help me out here
00:27:42
I thought this was just a grift you were
00:27:44
doing I didn't know it was serious now I
00:27:46
mean I may have to help yeah no you're
00:27:48
going to be proud of this well here's
00:27:49
the thing that I'm going to be most
00:27:50
proud of is the format I have come up
00:27:52
with a new concept of a format I came up
00:27:55
with a theme question that people can
00:27:57
choose to answer or not but the problem
00:27:59
I want to solve and it could be the
00:28:01
problem I most want to solve it could be
00:28:02
the problem I want to see solve the
00:28:04
problem I'm thinking about people will
00:28:06
go up in most cases and give a 10 to 20
00:28:08
minute call it a Ted style talk a solo
00:28:10
dolo talk where they kind of talk about
00:28:13
what they're working on in their lives
00:28:14
then they come and sit
00:28:16
in a chair with two besties on either
00:28:18
side and then the four of us engage them
00:28:21
in a conversation while we're talking
00:28:23
we're gonna have maybe five slides that
00:28:25
producers will put together of data
00:28:27
points Etc so we all get educated we
00:28:29
pull up the slide and then there'll be
00:28:31
you know 600 people in the auditorium
00:28:33
100 people in the simulcast room we will
00:28:35
take one question from the audience or
00:28:37
two questions if we have time with each
00:28:38
segment and so you're going to get a lot
00:28:41
of bestie action but stimulated by
00:28:43
bestie guesty positions and I think this
00:28:46
is really what folks want now if
00:28:48
somebody doesn't want to give one let's
00:28:50
say Palmer just wants to talk well we'll
00:28:52
just talk with Palmer um and so there's
00:28:54
going to be an option I told people you
00:28:56
could your position paper your position
00:28:59
statement could be five minutes it could
00:29:00
be twenty so I want to do something on
00:29:03
uh natural resource scarcity and
00:29:06
National Security so uh Jim latinski the
00:29:08
CEO of MP materials a H you just all you
00:29:11
got to do is email me the person's email
00:29:12
address or introduce me and we'll set it
00:29:14
up so we'll we'll do something on like
00:29:15
the supply chain of like Rare Earth and
00:29:17
lithium nickel and so and then here's my
00:29:19
other idea so I I told everybody that
00:29:21
the problem I'd like to solve there is
00:29:23
energy Independence for America perfect
00:29:24
so then do I still need to email you now
00:29:28
just a moment but here's the thing we're
00:29:29
doing I told that I just I just told you
00:29:31
the yeah we have Nick we'll take a note
00:29:33
yeah
00:29:34
um to remind you
00:29:35
um to get the email addressed here's
00:29:37
what's gonna happen so you don't need me
00:29:38
to email you uh I mean we don't want to
00:29:40
guess the email if you have it and you
00:29:42
know them I mean I know you want to do
00:29:43
the least amount of work but I need to
00:29:45
get a producer's fee here I don't know
00:29:46
you guys got to outvote Freeburg putting
00:29:48
that aside
00:29:50
I'm fine with that too thank you then
00:29:52
three because that's how all in media is
00:29:54
working now it's just going to be votes
00:29:55
well why don't you sign the LLC
00:29:56
agreement did anybody sign it yet I was
00:29:58
going to review it can poison pill
00:30:01
freeberg put in there but I'm not
00:30:03
signing this [Â __Â ] till I have two
00:30:04
lawyers look at all the Freebirds got a
00:30:06
poison pill in there I don't know about
00:30:07
you guys but I just signed any random
00:30:08
DocuSign
00:30:10
you know I wanna speak you know here we
00:30:13
go in the last 30 days yeah so I'd like
00:30:16
to get I'd like to get professor John
00:30:18
meersheimer to speak he's uh that'd be
00:30:20
great yeah he's a professor at the
00:30:22
University of Chicago he's been there 40
00:30:23
years he's the leading
00:30:25
he's a leading theorist you could say of
00:30:28
the school of thought called realism oh
00:30:31
yeah and foreign policy and he has a
00:30:34
track record of being right about all of
00:30:37
America's foreign policies
00:30:39
right yeah so he's the guy who talked
00:30:42
about it exactly what do they call that
00:30:44
the mono dual try
00:30:47
more
00:30:48
nucleosis multipolar you're beautiful
00:30:52
he has a critique he has a critique of
00:30:55
liberal interventionism which has been
00:30:56
the dominant fantastic foreign policy
00:30:58
since the end of the Cold War it's what
00:31:00
got us into Iraq Afghanistan Syria Libya
00:31:02
he predicted all those things to be
00:31:04
fiascos he also predicted that our
00:31:06
policy of constructive engagement
00:31:07
towards China would ultimately backfire
00:31:09
and be a disaster and he has a very
00:31:12
contrarian critique right now of our
00:31:15
policy in Ukraine that's gone viral yes
00:31:17
on Twitter and it's gotten like 10
00:31:21
million plus views he'd be an incredible
00:31:23
person to to come speak well here's
00:31:25
what's happened while we invite people
00:31:27
you know we we invite some people they
00:31:29
don't know the shall we knew other
00:31:30
people and they're like oh my God I love
00:31:32
the show I'm there what's going to be
00:31:34
interesting is the next 30 days we're
00:31:36
going to talk to each person about what
00:31:37
they what topic they really want to you
00:31:39
know double click on and then we get a
00:31:41
pair people so you might have teeth for
00:31:43
a boy and Antonio you know you might
00:31:45
have Tim Urban and Joe Lonsdale ever and
00:31:48
so hopefully we can find a little
00:31:49
Dynamic maybe people don't agree maybe
00:31:51
they have you know opposite positions
00:31:53
and then we're going to then have this
00:31:55
great Socratic dialogue with everybody
00:31:57
and I think it's going to be a very fast
00:31:59
paced type thing and then hopefully the
00:32:01
speakers sit in the VIP area
00:32:04
and then I'm going to have a runner
00:32:06
there with a microphone or I might do it
00:32:07
myself so you know I might have Keith
00:32:09
for boy on in the morning in the
00:32:10
afternoon he might want to chime in on
00:32:12
Joe lonsdale's talk I run up to him with
00:32:14
a microphone Etc so we got probably
00:32:17
we're gonna do two hours in the morning
00:32:19
three hours in the afternoon so it's 10
00:32:21
to 12 so you can sleep in or come for
00:32:23
coffee if we stay late playing poker
00:32:25
every night it's going to be a gentle
00:32:27
wake up 12 to 2 is a nice lunch healthy
00:32:30
three to five nice con I'm sorry two to
00:32:33
five three hours of nice content then
00:32:35
you get a little break you go to the
00:32:37
parties at the end of the parties you
00:32:38
never know a poker table or two might be
00:32:39
pulled out and we play a little cash
00:32:40
game who knows anything's possible so
00:32:43
poker could be all three nights I don't
00:32:44
know you know this depends on the
00:32:46
degeneracy level
00:32:47
um but I think it's gonna be a fun time
00:32:49
I'm just asking nobody go ham on Sunday
00:32:53
or Monday night please Tuesday night you
00:32:56
wanna have a little extra curricula you
00:32:58
want to go a little late Davey
00:33:00
that's fine
00:33:03
I want everybody in bed by midnight
00:33:05
Sunday night Monday night no crazy all
00:33:08
right so what are the dates to sing
00:33:09
again
00:33:12
okay it's Sunday Monday Tuesday Sunday
00:33:15
Monday of what of what uh May 15 16 17.
00:33:19
okay oh my God oh my God oh my God what
00:33:22
a [Â __Â ] show
00:33:23
so many speakers out there it's in a
00:33:26
month it isn't yes that's why I'm
00:33:28
busting my ass on this okay uh Jake All
00:33:30
I'm gonna introduce you to letinski so
00:33:32
we can uh and if anybody we could use a
00:33:35
couple more female speakers people of
00:33:37
color I'm really trying to keep it
00:33:38
diverse and have a lot of range of
00:33:39
speakers a lot of uh David Stan said yes
00:33:42
early you got the Joe Lonsdale should
00:33:44
get Keith or boys they all like want to
00:33:45
support
00:33:46
David's team I could use a couple people
00:33:48
maybe with the posing viewpoints so
00:33:50
we're trying to keep it a little white
00:33:51
Bari Weiss may come we're trying to work
00:33:53
on bar oh that's good yeah we should go
00:33:55
we can't make it I wanted to have Bari
00:33:57
and Kara Swisher it doesn't seem like
00:33:58
that oil and vinegar is going to happen
00:33:59
can we uh can we get Glenn Greenwald but
00:34:03
that's right right you're getting you're
00:34:05
getting further further to the road what
00:34:06
I would like to have is somebody
00:34:08
that's another kind of right guy I would
00:34:11
like your definitions off Jason these
00:34:14
definitions don't mean anything anymore
00:34:15
okay they're independent critical
00:34:16
thinkers
00:34:17
they originally came from the left
00:34:19
they're not like huge fans of unbridled
00:34:21
capitalism but they're more on the
00:34:23
populist side
00:34:27
I would appreciate it particularly Peter
00:34:30
Thiel who's the you're the one person
00:34:31
who can deliver it since you guys are
00:34:33
besties
00:34:35
bring us Peter Thiel the guy spoke at a
00:34:38
goddamn all right give me give me a list
00:34:39
I'll invite Glenn I'll invite taibi I'll
00:34:42
invite Peter oh great audience we could
00:34:45
have a protest outside
00:34:47
these are the most interesting people
00:34:49
exactly Peter teal is the most
00:34:50
interesting for sure I like Mike taibi
00:34:53
actually I'll give you that here's the
00:34:54
problem here's the problem here's the
00:34:57
problem with getting the people on the
00:34:58
other side is that the people on the
00:35:00
other side again it's not right versus
00:35:02
left anymore it's sort of populist
00:35:03
versus elitist and you already know what
00:35:05
all the elitists are going to say and
00:35:07
they're too afraid to be on stage with
00:35:09
people on the other side but I mean I
00:35:10
think that you're associated with Peter
00:35:13
Thiel it is a little bit charged and
00:35:14
triggering for certain people that's huh
00:35:16
yeah exactly that's why they don't they
00:35:18
don't believe me I mean that's they
00:35:19
don't I mean people are like how could
00:35:20
you be friends with David I'm like
00:35:21
because we love each other we're friends
00:35:23
like we're besties and they're like well
00:35:25
but you disagree it's contamination by
00:35:28
association but that's okay that's I
00:35:31
mean David that's what they're trying to
00:35:32
do to me right now I'm getting the back
00:35:33
Channel how could you do this with David
00:35:34
sacks and I'm like because he's my best
00:35:36
friend that's why that is popular is we
00:35:39
have four people who are friends who
00:35:41
sometimes disagree with each other the
00:35:42
reason you can't create the show any
00:35:44
more friends right I'm not giving up my
00:35:47
friendship with David the reason you
00:35:48
can't create the show anywhere else is
00:35:50
because those people think they get
00:35:52
contaminated if they even have a
00:35:54
conversation with somebody on the other
00:35:56
side of things
00:35:57
but you don't get that on your side
00:35:59
correct you and saying because we're in
00:36:03
electricity we're intellectually
00:36:05
confident we don't believe in shutting
00:36:06
down the debate right we believe in free
00:36:08
speech the other side they're
00:36:11
authoritarian yes because they can't
00:36:13
defend anything they just cancel people
00:36:16
they've lost the art of persuasion
00:36:18
I think they've given up their position
00:36:21
would be they've given up trying to
00:36:22
reach you you just don't get it they've
00:36:24
given up trying to reach you and I'm
00:36:25
like don't give up put up a fight if you
00:36:28
disagree with saxophone
00:36:30
it's not about reaching me it's about
00:36:32
reaching all of them yes all the people
00:36:34
out there watch the debate they don't
00:36:36
want to engage the baby because they
00:36:38
can't win the debate because they don't
00:36:39
know how to pursue
00:36:41
is
00:36:44
cancel people
00:36:48
and I own you half the time okay if he's
00:36:51
good I think so January 6th we're gonna
00:36:54
release the January 16th tape
00:36:58
you're like MSNBC that's all you got
00:37:01
we'll let your winners ride
00:37:04
rain man
00:37:09
we open source it to the fans and
00:37:12
they've just gone crazy
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besties
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it's like this like sexual tension that
00:37:38
they just need to release them out there
00:37:45
we need to get Mercies
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