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This Steve Jobs Rule Will Change Your Life...

July 15, 2025 / 01:56

This episode discusses working with Steve Jobs and Elon Musk, focusing on their approaches to productivity and vision. Key topics include the "signal to noise ratio" concept, and personal anecdotes about Jobs' management style.

The guest shares experiences from working with Steve Jobs in the early 90s, describing him as not a nice person. Jobs emphasized that he didn't care about what others thought, insisting on his vision for educational software.

The guest highlights Jobs' focus on critical tasks, explaining that he prioritized the top three to five things to accomplish within 18 hours, dismissing anything that detracted from those goals.

Elon Musk is mentioned as having an even higher signal to noise ratio, with a relentless focus on productivity and achievement. The guest compares both figures, noting their similarities in maintaining a clear vision.

Overall, the episode reflects on the traits of successful innovators and the importance of minimizing distractions to achieve goals.

TL;DR

Steve Jobs and Elon Musk prioritize productivity through a high signal to noise ratio in their work.

Video

00:00:00
I used to work for Steve Jobs in the
00:00:02
early 90s making all of his educational
00:00:04
software. By the way, not a nice guy.
00:00:09
Not a nice guy. He would say to a room
00:00:11
full of people, Kevin, I don't give a
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what the students want or the
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parents think or anybody thinks. It's
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what I want. They don't know what they
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want till I tell them what they want.
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And I said, "Steve, you sound like such
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an You have no idea what that
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sounds like." He says, "No, no, that's
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how it is, Kevin. Now, are you making
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money with me? Are we are you am I your
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fastest growing OEM? Have we not been
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wildly successful and continue to be?" I
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said, "Yes, Steve, that's true." He
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said, "And shut up and do what I
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say."
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That's how he would talk to you
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100%.
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And here's what I learned. Signal to
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noise ratio. His vision of signal was
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the top three to five things you have to
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get done in the next 18 hours. Not your
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vision for the business next week or
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next month or next year. Just the next
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18 hours you're awake. You're going to
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get those three things or those five
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things done that you have deemed
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critical for your mission. They must get
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done today. Anything that stops you from
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doing that is the noise. The signal to
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noise ratio to be successful for Steve
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Jobs was 8020. 80 signal, 20 noise. He
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was right. He was right. And the only
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other person that I've seen that has a
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higher ratio than that
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is Elon Musk. He has no noise. He does
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not deal with noise. He is 100%
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signaled. 60 seconds of every minute, 60
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minutes of every hour, the 18 hours he's
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awake, it's all signal. And look what
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he's achieved. And if you go back in
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history, you're going to find out that
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the geniuses of their time were close to
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100% signal.

Episode Highlights

  • Working with Steve Jobs
    A firsthand account of working with Steve Jobs reveals his demanding nature and vision.
    “Not a nice guy.”
    @ 00m 04s
    July 15, 2025
  • Signal to Noise Ratio
    Jobs emphasized focusing on the top priorities to achieve success, advocating for an 80/20 ratio.
    “80 signal, 20 noise.”
    @ 01m 22s
    July 15, 2025
  • Elon Musk's Focus
    Elon Musk is noted for his extreme focus, achieving remarkable success through minimal noise.
    “He has no noise.”
    @ 01m 35s
    July 15, 2025

Episode Quotes

Key Moments

  • Steve Jobs' Leadership00:04
  • Focus on Priorities01:22
  • Elon Musk's Efficiency01:35

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