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Tesla Asks Shareholders to Approve Elon Musk's Multi-Billion Payout | Pivot

April 19, 2024 / 06:38

This episode discusses Tesla's CEO Elon Musk's multi-billion dollar compensation package, the company's stock performance, and the implications of moving Tesla's corporate home from Delaware to Texas.

The conversation highlights the board's support for reinstating Musk's pay package, despite a Delaware judge's earlier rejection. The hosts mention that shareholders will vote on this issue at the annual meeting, emphasizing the board's alignment with Musk's interests.

Key points include Tesla's stock losing 38% of its value in 2024, and the complexities of valuing Musk's compensation based on stock options rather than the headline figure. The hosts critique the board's compromised position and the challenges Tesla faces in a competitive market.

They also discuss the broader implications of corporate governance and the need for accountability in executive compensation. The episode concludes with reflections on Tesla's future and the importance of focusing on product quality over public relations.

TL;DR

Tesla's board supports reinstating Elon Musk's pay package amid stock struggles and corporate governance concerns.

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Tesla is asking its shareholders to
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reinstate that multi-billion dollar
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compensation package for CEO Elon Musk
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the one that was rejected by a Delaware
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judge as unfair earlier this year the
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board says it still stands behind the
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pay package of course it does because
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they get paid and that uh vote in favor
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at the company's annual meeting would
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quote restore Tesla's shareholder
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democracy again but they're pulling in
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all the I can't believe First Amendment
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wasn't shoved in this statement
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shareholders will also be voting on
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elon's plan to move Tesla's corporate
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home from Delaware Texas so it's moot
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the Delaware decision mov what they said
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they were going to do they will do it uh
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he'll get his money back they'll win on
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this one Tesla's shareholders very much
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like Trump true social although Tesla's
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an actual business uh still will bid it
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up no matter what he does so they want
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to pay him maybe he's worth it if he if
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the stock does well if he can turn
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around and get better cars and you know
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get the economic prospects of Tesla
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doing well he's certainly capable of it
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compared to Donald Trump uh but um you
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know the argument seems to be they may
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not have been Ware what was behind the
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creation of the pay package but now they
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are um I think they will approve it I
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think most people think they will um
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just for people to be aware Tesla's uh
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stock performance has been more than
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lackluster in 20 24 the shares have lost
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38% of their value so far he L pay
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packages wor 56 billion in January now
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it's closer to 45 billion um he is the
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keyman in this thing at this point it
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probably shouldn't be um and he wanted
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voting control back in January uh he'll
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get that probably it's it's his company
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to do with what he Wills what he wants
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to I don't know I don't it's capitalism
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nice to meet you thoughts I think that's
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right I I think that I do think his pay
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package will be reinstated and the the
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thing that ASAT deut and my colleague at
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Stern pointed out that made a lot of
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sense to me is we see the headline
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number 56 now 45 billion and the delay
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by the way if he were to exercise and
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sell all his shares I don't know if he
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was planning to do that it's cost him 10
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billion even if it's reinstated
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but that's the headline number but when
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they actually devised and awarded the
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compensation package it was on options
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on stock when the stock was Far Below
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this meaning that if you valued his
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actual compensation package when the
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award was made it was dramatically less
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than 45 billion and as much as I hate to
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in any way defend or acknowledge the
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point he wasn't he wasn't paid 45
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billion he was given options much less
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than that and because the stock
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skyrocketed he's he's registered this
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enormous windfall so I'm not sure it's
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entirely fair to say should the board be
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paying him 45 billion if if Vox gave
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us uh let's say $10 million worth of
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options options that had a value of $10
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million and you value options based on
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their upside potential using like the
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black sches method and then Tesla's
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stock went up I'm sorry and then vox's
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stock went up 10x our shares would
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probably be worth some between 100 and
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200 million and people might say well
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these these podcasters aren't worth that
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but that's not the that's not the number
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you look at the initial compensation or
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value of the options when they were
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awarded so I think it'll be reinstated
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and I do think it's a little unfair to
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look at the headline number because what
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we're not taking into account is the
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fact that the stock skyrocketed after
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absolutely I get I think the point that
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Del Court was making is a good one this
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board is in his pocket and that's as
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many corporations are FYI he they're
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particularly in his pocket this board is
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it benefits from him they party with him
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you know it just shows corporate boards
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and this is a particularly um very
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compromised one that will do his bidding
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and and that's to me that's the message
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here is I I think you know the Delaware
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Court is right and these this terribly
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compromised board has every right to
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reward him because he's it he's the one
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he's the guy um again grotesque
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certainly worth it the stock has been up
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under his leadership so they've all
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benefited um in this case they've all
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done very well with his whatever his
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Antics may be um I do think they're
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facing a lot of challenges as we've
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talked about and I think we were we
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borne out to be right even though we got
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slapped by all the stands um which is
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let's look at the company itself the
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product is tired um the toxic behavior
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is hurting the brand um there's
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competition and it's a tough market so
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that's really what people should be
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looking at with this company more than
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uh anything else um and if they if he
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does does really well they should pay
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him a lot if they
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don't I feel like you should be paid
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based on your thing but the way they
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rewarded this is the Delaware Court is
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100% right what a they should go after
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everybody every company often it's like
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this this just happens to be the most
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egregious example of that presumably but
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so far year to date the Tesla is the
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worst performing stock in the S&P I mean
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out of 500 stocks it's the worst
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performing and also they had their
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biggest Miss in terms of estimates for
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vehicle deliv
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uh so I think this stock has a long way
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uh to go down they've laid off 10% of
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the workforce which is probably a good
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idea probably the right move but there's
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a lot the hardest thing about being on a
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board I find and and more broadly
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probably about management is
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compensation and in this instance it's
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it's okay how do we how do we try and
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justify the compensation here what I do
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think this will have an impact on is I
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don't think he's going to be issued some
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many shares that he controls the company
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or a new class of shares I think that
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this is basically sent a signal to the
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board that there are there are other
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there is other governance and you can't
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just do ridiculous things that are
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clearly off market and they're
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benefiting that Jour a second Journal
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piece was so like revelatory what the
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fix is in for this guy again he's done
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really well with the stock I'm G to you
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know I do not compliment Els but the
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problem with this company is not uh that
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he has not paid enough it has to do with
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the you know stop focusing on Twitter
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and focus on get doing better cars it
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doesn't actually it doesn't even matter
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now cuz there's too much competition
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there's too much consumer sentiment
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against him it doesn't matter he unless
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he comes out with the best car ever and
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Ro no matter how many jazz hands he puts
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around Robo taxis or anything else I
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would be surprised if he can pull a
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rabbit out of a hat here he had his time
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and we'll see you know it's a good car
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it's a good car but there's lots of good
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cars now um and that's the way it is he
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waited this is so inevitable what's
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happened to him and it's a business
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story rather than an Elon Musk story

Episode Highlights

  • Tesla's CEO Pay Package Controversy
    Tesla is asking shareholders to reinstate a rejected multi-billion dollar compensation package for Elon Musk.
    “They want to pay him maybe he's worth it if he can turn things around.”
    @ 00m 43s
    April 19, 2024
  • Challenges Facing Tesla
    The company faces competition and internal challenges, impacting its market position and brand.
    “The product is tired; the toxic behavior is hurting the brand.”
    @ 04m 19s
    April 19, 2024
  • Tesla's Stock Performance
    Tesla's stock has lost 38% of its value in 2024, making it the worst performing stock in the S&P.
    “So far year to date, Tesla is the worst performing stock in the S&P.”
    @ 04m 51s
    April 19, 2024

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  • Shareholder Vote00:14
  • Market Challenges04:24
  • Corporate Governance05:40

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