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meta will pay Trump $25 million
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settlement for shutting down his
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accounts after January 6 most of the
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payment will go towards Trump's
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Presidential Library again much as
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Disney's payment of $15 million is going
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to do that X also who also kicked Trump
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off the platform after January 6 says
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this negotiating its own settlement with
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Trump uh apparently the Trump people
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said Mark wasn't going to get into the
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tent uh unless um unless he did this I
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just you don't seem to be paying anybody
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millions of dollars to get in the tent
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so what what do you think so obviously I
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think that was a long sigh that you just
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had there you're like well look I
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obviously think that the the the the
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notion of um of you know kind of this
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sort of payoff is I think um you
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know is is to put it charitably
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suboptimal um you know I uh and I think
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that the the you know the question of
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like the fact is when the when people
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are removed from services for violations
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of terms of service they're removed for
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violations of terms of service um and I
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think that's a uh perfectly good thing
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and and I you know myself am a massive
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advocate for you know kind of the rule
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of law and and kind of how these kind of
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contracts work but um I understand
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expediency in
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navigation okay what does that mean what
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does that mean sounds like a mob move to
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me you know uh I don't wouldn't want
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nice company you got there wouldn't want
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anything to happen to it kind of thing
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well let's hope that we see very little
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of that in the coming years although
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obviously uh we have deep worries in the
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other direction could couldn't he keep
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doing this suing people and getting
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these things well I guess the question
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will be
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is um is you know it's kind of like how
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much do people kind of respond to this
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sort of you know
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um call it uh excess pressure uh on on
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these kind of things and I think that
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that uh frankly you
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know we shouldn't want it as a society
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uh and and uh you know I think probably
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there will at some point be a bridge too
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far on it and seeing what that that that
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bridge looks like um I think will is is
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still something where you know we're
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looking for that bridge too far is yes
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that's right uh Scott well there's two
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there's two Dimensions to this the first
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is from a pure shareholder standpoint it
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probably makes sense when the
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president's coming after you to say and
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you make you know $20 billion a year an
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operating profit to say yeah just make
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it go away just give them $25 million to
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the Presidential Library and make it go
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away the problem is and I wouldn't
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expect based on pattern behavior Mark
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Zuckerberg to think anything about this
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is that this has real societal
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implications and that is despite the
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fact Bob Iger made $45 Million last year
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I would argue he's becoming more and
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more impoverished in terms of his
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citizenship and that is when a media
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company says things that are a fraction
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of the misinformation slander
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disparaging statements that the
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president has made himself that happens
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every day online and they agree to set
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precedent by bending a knee and bowing
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to this intimidation it's sends a chill
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across the entire [ __ ] Nation I I'm
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on Morning Joe and I call the president
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an insurrectionist and a rapist and M
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stops the show to clarify he was found
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guilty of sexual abuse liable oh excuse
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me sexual liable he was found liable of
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sexual abuse is that the right
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terminology yes I I just made I'm call
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me m brazinski but go look at what we're
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doing all right yeah and by the way the
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judge then went on in his sensing to say
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the street term for that is rape right
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so what do you have you have a group of
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people this is straight out of the
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fascist handbook intimidate anyone who
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says anything negative about you and if
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these companies in my opinion had more
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Fidelity to American values and the very
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important role media plays in checking
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power they wouldn't be bending the
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[ __ ] knee like this so is it a
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practical thing to do yes you can argue
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with that has it sent a chill across the
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entire country and what is an incredible
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double standard that the critics of
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President Trump are now feel that
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they're being held to look at the [ __ ]
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he has said about people that's been
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incorrect so I you know yeah Bob and
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Mark I expected this from Mark I was
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disappointed to see it from Bob where
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are the men where are the Americans who
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are going to stand up and say no if if
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you're not guilty if we're not if the
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entire ecosystem has never been held
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liable for things much more slanderous
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or disparaging than these statements
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I'll see you in court in this case it
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wasn't statements he he he he broke the
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rules of Facebook and they kicked him
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off that's all it was not which they're
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allowed to do yeah exactly so re when we
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when we talked in October I asked if you
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were concerned about Trump and
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retribution and your own well-being and
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and you said yes uh that was before that
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was I think before the election talk
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about now how are you feeling because
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obviously you were one of the more
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prominent supporters of kamla Harris
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obviously a big Democratic donor you do
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give to Republicans also um uh for which
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for some reason you get endless [ __ ] I'm
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not sure why I think that's probably
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fine to do that um how do you feel now
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do you feel in that crosshairs that we
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had
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discussed well it's unclear um I'm
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hopeful that a bunch of my friends who
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are around uh the administration say
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look that's just kind of all rhetoric
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and you know uh isn't actually going to
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be that's what they part yes that's what
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they say to me um and so that obviously
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is hopeful um but I obviously it's one
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of the things that I think you know both
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me personally and we as Americans need
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to watch carefully because we do want to
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be to continue to be uh you know the
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home of the brave and land of the free
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um and I think that that's very
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important to be you know resolutely
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against you know kind of abuses of of
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state power um for individual interests
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and so you know like I said I went and
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talked to a whole bunch of people who
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are you know kind of in you know and
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around the current Administration said
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look you know I have this worry they
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said look we've talked to a bunch of
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people they say this is not something
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we're going to do it's like okay then
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you know let's let's um you know let are
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these the same people that said he
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wasn't going to let out everybody at
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January 6th he's only going to let out
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he wasn't going to let out the criminals
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but then he did it wasn't the same it
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wasn't the same people as those um he's
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done that several times he's done that
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several times there's there's worries
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and like for example letting out the
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people who assaulted police
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officers is is is a you know as per what
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Scott was saying earlier is a terrible
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signal um it's basically saying hey um
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you know like if you're doing violence
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in a in a in a cause that I am
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supportive of of you know I have this
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thing of a presidential pardon um and
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you know that's obviously uh you know
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frankly you know uh terrifying
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concerning right but you didn't want a
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presidential pardon correct no no no of
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course not but here's the problem if I'm
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a thoughtful guy who's high-profile with
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a lot of business interests with a
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family I would be inclined I'm not just
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going to speak for you Reed I'd be
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inclined to keep a very low profile over
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the next 12 months
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whereas the people on the right are
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emboldened to be aggressive and pollute
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and flood the Zone with misinformation
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and [ __ ] and attacks and the people
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on the other side of the aisle feel like
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well maybe I should just keep quiet for
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a while because they are removing
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security details of people which is
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nothing but repackage violence when you
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took out the head of the Iranian
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security forces and you ordered that
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strike as a general and the president
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for whatever reason doesn't like you is
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removing your SEC your security detail
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that is repackaged violence against that
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person so what we have is a gr this is
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the road to Fascism keep them quiet put
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a chill across people I'm going to keep
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a low profile and maybe I'm just not
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going to be quite as aggressive that is
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that is let me be clear one of the one
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of the roads to Fascism and I want you
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both to respond to this is littered with
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calls or accus accusations that people
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are overreacting call me
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overreacting let me just say Amanda
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loves your whole this whole Jam Scott
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she was like Scot's on fire I love it
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she was vaguely attracted to you I think
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um vaguely is doing a lot of work there
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vaguely vaguely is doing a lot of work
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she was she wanted me to tell you um I
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think you're right but that's I I think
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it's you know people that are very
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high-profile agreed aren't certainly
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aren't backing down don't seem to be
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disappearing he's right here right he's
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talking about it so I think the question
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is when Mark does these deals when he
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just doesn't have to and it doesn't help
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him from a shareholder point of view I
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really that's nonsense um it's really
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but I again we expected Mark to do this
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sorry I know Reed you were Reed was
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early at at Facebook for and has been
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had been a mentor to to Mark I don't
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think he's listening to someone like you
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anymore but that said you you and Bill
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Gates had been um and probably are no
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longer I would guess but I don't know
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look the thing um I think that the
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American people should pay a lot of
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attention to the removing the security
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detail from you know a person who spent
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their entire life serving the American
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people putting himself In Harm's Way um
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you know kind of helping secure the the
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safety of America you know both locally
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and Americans abroad and saying hey for
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petty reasons I am putting that person
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directly in the Harm's Way of violence
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and I think that is a you know an
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unpatriotic iotic you know personal
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thing that I think is extremely
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important that everyone should pay
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attention to and I think it's exactly
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that is I think that you know as Scott
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saying on the things that are like that
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is the kind of thing that is deeply
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unamerican like I think people need to
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speak up about 100%
