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foreign Chris Rock who is always interesting to
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talk to um was processing his thoughts about Chris as we interviewed him and it's
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really really compelling tell Rock that's too funny rock what's
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the longest set a middle act has done in your days in the clubs you're the headliner and the middle is going
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leaning into it what's the longest set okay supposed to do 20. yeah I want
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dead I was the middle for Larry Miller oh
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oh Larry Miller hilarious I was cocky and I did probably about 35 40.
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enough to take the room and you know I'm you know I'm good I mean it didn't
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affect him honestly but uh he definitely pulled me to the side
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and let me know that was not to be a you know hey this is not how we do it in the
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majors yeah [Laughter] you know it was great it was like what a
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great week because um he actually listened to my Act
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and instead of like just being like [ __ ] this guy right and basically had me help
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him write jokes for the right like literally it was a week with Larry Miller and
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I don't know like at nine o'clock we wrote jokes from nine in the morning to about two in the afternoon
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we went over his acting like he made me he's like okay kid let me put you to use
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did he have a cigar when he said that he might as well have obviously yeah well
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you got a good guy right in front of you you're on the road it's boring and 99 of comedians don't do that yeah and they
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and they should and they should like he totally put me under his wing for a week
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and this is a joke this is a premise this is yeah and he would help me with
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my ACT okay this is a tag yeah you leaning too hard on this tag hey for
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this tag you know yeah but he is good he's worth listening to well you know one of the
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best Comics I've ever seen that guy Larry Miller yeah he's tight yeah I had a guy do 70 as a middle and the cops
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comedy Pub cops Pub and SF back in the day I'm the headliner 70. Late Show he
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wouldn't stop they did the light this and that and it was 70 minute middle and uh and he did say it was that 70. he
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played Innocent but then he parlayed the whole act in defending the caveman
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yeah and so he hires other guys to do his act and he retired in the Tony suburbs of Marin County wow that guy
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that was the first like um one-man show guy like he did it then he hired someone else to do his exact act that's so
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interesting he franchised a Togo sandwich he's the only comedian I ever knew that had a franchise of a Togo
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sandwich shop so then he franchised his act yeah you know anyway enough about that
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so let's get back to okay Chris how are you first of all yeah I'm okay how are
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you are you kind of tired are you overworked are you on a day I've been on the road since
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March and I'm not done so much I've probably done about 90 shows now something like
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that where are you in your own head and turn because I know you're gonna do a live special in your own head are you at
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eight are you at a nine or you think you're about a ten at times how are you feeling about yourself I think
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personally the set how do I how do I explain it the live experience is good
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so I'm having really good shows [Music] um but and my Show's probably about an
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hour and a half hour 40. right I gotta get it down to an hour so I
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don't and in some ways I don't really know the special yet yeah well I got you yeah yeah you know
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what I mean pacing wise what do you cut what it'll feel different yeah I'm like okay what's the The Narrative of it I
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mean I can string together you know whatever 50 an hour worth of good jokes
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but I'm like okay what's the theme like tambourine was your last one yeah the
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kind of theme of this one like Beyonce but whoever she
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has a theme it's not even like a theme who the [ __ ] am I not this year
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like yeah who who am I yeah anyway let's talk about our our buddy Chris Farley
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and we're here to celebrate one of the all-time greats and uh is it like a date
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is this the day it's 25 years ago uh uh this is the year he passed away okay
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okay 25 I would have guessed 18.
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25. I'll get you started I the only two cast members only two people on Earth that
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only called me lady were you and the other Chris yeah Chris Chris Farley and
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Chris Rock which I thought was so funny never said my name ever even Carvey or whatever both consistently Lady Lady
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Lady I don't know why you and Chris had that connection but it was so funny you
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still couldn't yeah I mean you were the lady and it was a it was a term of endearment
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it was because you were yeah you know how much older are you I mean I was like
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I don't know this guy well enough to call him Dana
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I'm a happy he's a grown man I'm a half generation up but I think what happened
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I went on Letterman and I was riding high and he goes there's a lot of new cast members coming in and I said you
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know what I say to him I say you know what my name is I'm the [ __ ] church lady now give me a cup of coffee with a
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fake cigarette and I think you and Chris saw that and took you know just said lady the whole time yeah we might have I
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mean well I remember I used to but sometimes it's fade I used to watch Letterman I used to go down there and
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sneak and just watch him work on his monologue and just like because he was downstairs 6A I believe yeah yeah yeah
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yeah never I like [ __ ] idolize that guy but um wasn't that a great building to be in
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Rockefeller Center it was amazing building to be in uh
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you and Farley got hired you started after Schneider and I then there was a summer and then you guys came on first
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man probably got hired the same day we started the same day I guess we got
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hired the same night I I don't that they were doing auditions in uh
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Chicago okay um did I meet Farley that night I don't
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know if I met him that night I don't I don't think I met him until I got to 8h and you know Chris and Chris and yeah
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you had that going on we kind of had the Chris and Chris thing going on yeah that lasts a little bit
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good jumping off point in Brooklyn I was it you know you know life so I'm the
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black guy who lives in Brooklyn and it's like hey hey is he safe living in
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Brooklyn you know whatever yeah I'm the one they're worried about that's that's that's what I'm trying to
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get at really I was the one that was like what's going on here let's you know
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and be safe yeah and Chris was obviously a danger to himself
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he was very very spontaneous he was in the most State he was Wisconsin Dundee
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because he would just go David there's a it's a McDonald's here and there's one in Wisconsin
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I'm like yeah is is it on Wheels now Chris and when you go to the ATM he'd keep pulling twenty dollars out and then
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we go and he goes I have to go to the ATM again I go Chris take out 200 like why why what are we doing at 20. what's
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20 getting anyone he gets to hit the floor because he was like just this Midwest so I mean I'm
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Arizona I'm not big time but uh I knew to take 40 out you knew that I knew that much you're
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big time baby you're big time yeah we were rolling around uh but I was I was
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flat floored by Farley probably the first read through yeah I mean the thing about Molly
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he was I mean I never felt that competition thing everybody talks about but
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I you know I guess you know whatever it was a very competitive environment but
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no one was competing with Farmers yeah true true no one he was a even thought
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you know what I mean it was just like he's Michael Jordan yeah and get on the ball like just definitely give him the
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ball if he wanted to take the scene he could take it if he felt like it and he
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was a nice guy so he'd lay back sometimes but if he wanted to go to a move that no one else has that energy
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that he could explode literally never had one bit of like
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hey this guy doesn't write sketches why is he in everything hey like none of
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them none of why is he in nine things and I'm in one because he's better than you because he
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should be in ten yes yeah I mean remember the first I think
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the first showback might have been Kyle McLaughlin because there's a twin Kyle
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McLaughlin yeah O'Connor okay so Chris Chris
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not the night she ripped up the pope thing but
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um he after she ripped up the pope everyone stopped flirting with her uh so she uh she had oh Farley and they wrote
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a Twin Peak sketch because obviously all summer is a huge show what's the angle with Kyle McLaughlin from Twin Peaks and
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I think Schneider might have cracked that code of like he they they solved the case but they still think it's he
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keeps it going or something but Farley was in one scene in handcuffs and he was
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getting laughs and he had really nothing to do and that was the first time I was like there was nothing in read through
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and then he's out there and everyone's staring at him he's just flipping his head back and forth and getting and you're like oh [ __ ] I I get it
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something's going on here no one did distress better than Chris yeah he the
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way it was like Kennison had his rhythm Chris had his explosive Rhythm it was there was all method to his Madness it
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was extreme yeah irresistible he had a way of stepping into funny
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like yeah like it was just on his shoe he didn't know how he got there it's just like yeah yeah
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ah [ __ ] guys gone and the funny part was Chris he was always sort of in awe
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of literally every other cast member like just going so funny feels so great oh my God and then everyone's like wait
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you're the great one dude or even Belushi and you go there's a point when I said actually I think you're better
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than blue she's like shut the [ __ ] up I'm like I'm telling you it's been long enough where I'm starting to flip going
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we grew up loving Belushi of course and I'm like it's getting close dude
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yeah I mean I'll take my guy in that fight but yeah I mean blue shoe is great
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obviously um Farley had a warmth to him
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yeah Farley's you know unhatable he's unhatable and
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he's with this guy that you know he's just he's just always himself you know
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what I mean in a good way very unique yeah he was just he didn't have to
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really you know get into character or anything he was just [ __ ] funny
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you know and you just you just bought that he was whoever he was playing yeah
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anybody yeah just play any character one line he's getting a laugh
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um so so yeah it's very it's yeah I mean yeah sad with our friends not here but
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it is curious to like it's like wow what would that guy have done you know well I
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see like Sandler and something like uncut gems it's like yeah barley barley could have done that barley could have
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been in you know he's literally sure that level of actor and that level of
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like you just felt for that guy you just you know okay whatever Chris Farley was
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gonna take me on I was definitely ready to go on it yeah if he ever played sad in something yeah he would just own own
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the audience you know if he went back but the great thing is we have data now and when you look at his best stuff just
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Chris is Farley's best of it's the best of the best stuff you know it's like we
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can look at it and go okay those 10 sketches nobody has another 10 like that you know so uh it's great that we got to
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see his greatness and then Tommy Boy I think really captured a lot of Chris it's great that we have some data on how
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brilliant and lovable he was yeah do you remember uh Rock were there for a Japanese game show
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Japanese game show I don't know if I was there for that I think Mike Myers yeah yeah he just played a tourist on the Japanese
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game show the only one that couldn't speak Japanese and he just kept going I I I I they told me this was a different
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thing I I don't know I'm on a game I shouldn't be here my wife and they're like
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everyone's talking Japanese and then they cut off someone's finger when they get the wrong answer and he goes oh
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scared screaming you remember that one Dana right oh yeah massive head wound Harry where everyone had to do a spit
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take basically at my head Chris you know again it just the way he turned the way he held his body and the way he just
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went you know it was just like boom right a unique version yeah that's a
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perfect hit it every time he used to do you guys used to have like tape contests
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yeah well we just keep out you know out do the other one near you yeah I
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remember like okay triple take [Laughter]
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what kind of weird improv games are happening yeah um funny surprise yeah
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angry surprise yeah yes he had them all he would he would occasionally yeah like
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go through the moves play the scales we did a weird acting thing that's not even acting for real
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but there's that song by Smashing Pumpkins it disarm it goes the killer in me is the killer in you you know and uh
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every they say that line four times and every time when it came on you go okay
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you're sad right before the line then he goes killer and me is anybody he mouths it but he acts that then you go now
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you're uh uh scared the killer in me every line then you do it to the other
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guy and you yell what the next one is and they have to do it and it sounds so stupid because it was and uh but it
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would kill some time at 4am when you didn't want to write yeah yeah
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I remember those games anything not to write anything not to write friend yeah
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still procrastinate for as long as you can possibly progress because that's the
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worst Circle the wagon for 10 hours eat a lot of food yeah and then pray I remember him
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calling his father oh after every dress rehearsal
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to not talk about the dress rehearsal to talk about what we had to eat
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wow wow that's a funny specific memory then we had peas and they had turkey
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like every because we because I shared a dressing room with the guy oh
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up close up close Okay so I had an office and a dressing
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room oh I didn't know that yeah well down on the uh on nine or something yeah yeah so I had a yeah
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I what the [ __ ] I don't know what I don't know I had a girlfriend with a Whitney and Chris Farley wow that is a
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sitcom or it's a movie hey Whitney was probably interested
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no hey Whitney Brown writer on Sno yeah back in the day back in the day rock you
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know we had hard lines for the people listening and so you have a phone in your dressing room and you can call your
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friends after the show did you see the show whatever and one time he was on the phone with his dad and you know I think
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it's common knowledge he was scared not scared of his dad but his dad was a very important respectful yeah and he knew
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not to act up around him and he's talking to him and then Marcy or Aaron walked by and they kicked the cord
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accidentally and he goes hello hello and he flipped out he goes he's gonna think I hung up on him oh terrified
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terrified I was like sorry just call him back no you don't get it we were like oh
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my God so that was a quick window into like ooh yeah
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yeah a lot going on there
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John Farley is Chris's youngest brother and
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we would all hang out in the old days and here's Johnny yay hello oh boy crush on Chris where
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are you are we contacting Chris we Chris this is a week hey John uh
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tenants are you driving or you're in the back seat all right you're in an Uber I got in the car it's way too loud in the
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house right there's kids running around oh God I've seen your kids they're a nightmare ah God the washer and dryer
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the children one's on zoomed uh I'm on Zoom too you're on Adderall hey what
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about uh I'll start with a story Dana that I forgot about you guys go Black
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Sheep for time boy but we can cut it if we want but uh Johnny I don't know if you remember this you probably heard so
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Jesus so there was a guy that was in charge of God I forgot his name that was in charge
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of Farley and and so for the movie it was Tommy Boy every the first day he
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would give him a thermos full of cappuccino or espresso whatever is the most it's
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the strong one and before each each uh steak Dana he would do a shot
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and I go Chris you have to pace this out this is a long scene and we it was the scene where we're eating bread or you
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know like he's ripping the bread up in front of the waitress and and we we realized we realize he's a good salesman but it was the first scene it took a lot
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and the first day is hard we're trying to figure it out and he's getting so gacked out on this and he's so [ __ ]
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mad and then every time he at lunch he goes to sleep and then no
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one wants to wake him up because he crashes so hard so a couple weeks into
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the movie they go Sherry lansing's coming today they tell me and I go oh she's coming today she's here that's the
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head of Paramount sweet lady she's gonna check on her movie they do this once in a while on
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the set like Dana probably in Wayne's World so everyone's you know Cheryl has you know
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everyone's like uh places everyone you know here comes the boss and he's sleeping and so God they go hey
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I go to this somebody go wake up Chris I go I'm not [ __ ] waking up Chris and
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so she comes up and we she says a couple of polite things to me and then oh the dailies are fun hey uh I gotta run is
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Chris here I'll say bye or say hi I go oh that's his trailer so she walks over to his trailer and
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everyone's just staring and she's like knock knock oh Chris Chris and he goes
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get the [ __ ] out of here you dumb [ __ ] I'm sleeping and she goes Chris it's
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Sherry Lansing and he goes hey Sherry he cracks the door and he's like hey I
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just took a little snoozer and then she's like yeah just saying how I gotta
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run and then he stares around everyone glaring on who didn't warn me it's so
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awesome oh my God that was my job growing up I had to wake Chris up down
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in the basement we all all four boys were down in the basement and
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uh you know our house is on a hill we weren't like all four of you in one room all four of us no we had there was like
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uh it was Kevin and I in the first room it was supposed to be Tommy and Chris in the middle room and Tommy goes get out
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you're a monster so Chris had to go back to there's uh two rooms behind the
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furnace room which was the scariest that's where the devil was oh and so the
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furniture room not Chris's room but you had to get through the furnace room to get the paranoid Catholic Family oh my
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God it was terrifying because the thing made no it was like how Home Alone that that furnace it was terrifying and so uh
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I had to go every time we had to go to mass or go to like dinner I had to be
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the one that goes downstairs creeps into Chris's room and tells him to wake up and and then kick over one of his
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mystery jars of Mountain Dew I would assume it was but it didn't it smelled
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like pee yeah really hot uh okay [Laughter]
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[Applause] oh no that wasn't that far um
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I got uh yeah I got a couple uh things chucked at me you got to bring a pillow
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with you for whatever projectile is coming at your head and then run and then go upstairs to try to wake him up
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so gingerly yeah was it for school or church or what was your church school
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all that according to dinner yeah we usually you know go out to dinner on Wednesdays and uh Fridays we go out to
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dinner and uh yeah he'd be in the second the local steakhouse one time Johnny he
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said uh Chris goes we were driving and he's in the back as kids and he goes mom pull over I'm uh no no dad pull over I'm
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hungry I'm starving and mom goes Christopher you just stayed an hour ago and his dad goes hey good boy good boy I
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had to uh yeah if I ordered something on the menu you'd always hear a whisper from Christopher or Kevin or somebody
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that go you better eat all of that because I was the skinny one I could eat and just be like I'd leave things on the
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plate but they were it was called The Clean Plate Club oh yeah yeah he was a
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member of the clean place I'd say that a million times I go enough with that one but he also oh God oh what about the
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yuck bag when you would eat it no that was I was that's a normal thing Dana anyone Dave anyone
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after you eat you'd have to up Chuck all right now listen now we'd have just your
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standard everyday uh grocery bag the the paper one right and uh in the summertime
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we'd have years of corn lots of them there's seven people in this family you're looking at 14 two ears each
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that's 14 years a couple extra down yeah and then there's the the bone from the
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T-bone part and then yeah so then uh my mom was like uh I don't want all this
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crap on the on the table I'm gonna take this garbage bag and we're gonna call it a yuck bag ever tamper down this story
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you go yeah it is a beautiful story not really so it's a modified grocery bag
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and now it has a new deter yes so we'd all be throwing our ears of corn and t-bones
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and my mom would put it down and and then the table would look like we didn't eat
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but yeah you're like don't ever make the yuck bag not sound [ __ ] gross what about
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okay I'm sorry to interrupt you John I like I like the idea that you lived across the lake from either a prison or
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an insane asylum or something and who is Mental Health institution uh the Madonna
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Mental Health institution uh beautiful grounds uh so we lived on Lake Mendota
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which I believe Otis Redding is still down there hanging out toward the bottom sitting on the dock by
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the bay not really on the dock probably filling the plate in a seat uh but it's
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um now we were on a bay part of it all and uh um and so we're on one side and
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then around the bay is Woods pretty beautiful woods but if you look a little farther there's a weird Smoke Stack and
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uh a big brown buildings you know brick those huge bricks looks terrifying from
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like uh you know they uh whatever that beer uh beer facility from Strange Brew
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remember that movie strange oh yeah yeah and it looked terrifying so uh
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that was the middle and in the uh when we were little kids uh there was a lovely fella by the name of Ed Gein that
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lived there and uh he liked to make furniture out of people so later on a
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few years down the road when we were uh uh about in college uh another fellow uh
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took up residency there by the name of Jeffrey Dahmer so we had like a All-Star list the
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Harlem Globetrotters of and you you knew that he was there yeah we knew he was and were you scared
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or you make jokes it's a list you can hear everything yeah
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you could whisper and you could hear it echoing across the lake and we're in all
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our doors all of our bedrooms have doors that open up into the backyard uh and
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not very secure doors these are just flimsy little doors and uh you hear all
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of a sudden the dead of night the sirens go off you lift your head up on the pillow look out the wet door and you'd
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see this the lights going off and the sirens growing up you're like sweet Jesus it was before helicopters but
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there were slides of dead dogs so there's always someone escaping and they don't say who yeah no they have no clue
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who it is there's someone that has escaped Ed Gein could have been he was a little older by the time we were around
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Jeff Dahmer anybody Jeffrey Dahmer was the guy that terrified me because he
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lived there he lived there for a while I lived there yeah and I don't know why I
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mean what kind of Institute is it what are they doing there and they're learning there yeah and they didn't look
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like real competent guards holding them down the uh the uh the gate was a
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chain-linked fence that was it flimsy uh yeah chain link back wow and uh
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did you hear that and uh that that best was though when you hear that
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um me and Kevin would be like oh my God here it comes you'd see the silhouette of Chris in the in our doorway with a
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pillow it's just a big fat silhouette going shut your mouth sit down sleeping
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here in between your beds he'd sleep in between our beds because because of the
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siren he was scared or Sirens the devil room of the furnace and the way yeah it
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was a combo what about winning the movie Shrek I don't think a lot of people knew
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that it was Chris as the voice of Shrek for a long oh my God we go when we visit him in L.A he'd be like God damn it I
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gotta do this God this thing called Shrek nobody knew what it was ah because you have to film those things for years
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The Voice how long does that take well then they do animatics but if you don't know it's a hit when I
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did Emperor's New Groove it's grinding like three years in I'm like is this still an honor to do this I don't even
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know if because it could be shitty you it's just work for a while you're like
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okay okay I didn't get paid much and I don't think Chris got much up front for that but uh anyway go ahead so yeah we
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had like he had like five days left and uh they were uh uh he was uh he shot it
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all uh and then I have a bunch of pictures of of like the unless he must
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have taken out the um the animators of that uh the writers and the animators because they sent him like
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a book of all the different photos they had chopped up of him uh they're pretty funny so he almost finished the movie I
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didn't know he went that he had five days wow shoots left five dead five looping days but then Johnny did they
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ask you to cover it yeah but it was like right after uh it was right uh 97 I was
00:30:00
like no thanks now I'm looking at it like dear God what have I passed up oh you can't they Dana they said you could
00:30:06
finish it just mock Chris's voice do you would were you able to do that you sound
00:30:12
like Christmas back in the day yeah I mean you know if you if you let's hear a little bit can you do Chris get on over here
00:30:22
yeah yeah I know it wasn't Scottish I'm sure he was like I just got please I've
00:30:28
got to be an ogre or something like that I don't know what they had to they
00:30:33
tweaking of the levels and things like that I think there's you there's donkey here's me
00:30:41
but I I didn't uh so I didn't do that which is a bad idea yeah well who needs
00:30:47
it Dave reminds me of that every goddamn time I see him no you remind me every time you go I I would buy lunch if I
00:30:55
finish Shrek if I finish right I'm like all right we all have something we turned down you know I know couldn't
00:31:02
they have released it and then to ask me and I could have gone I'll redo it you know well you probably did the right
00:31:08
thing I mean it is I mean that's too soon to ask you to do something oh my God yeah it was way too soon so I was
00:31:13
like yeah I forget I remember hearing about Shrek with Chris and I was like Shrek he's like it's like a cartoon like
00:31:19
we didn't know what you know and it's not real people it's like drawings that they make moves it's like Tom and Jerry
00:31:25
and a motion or something like that should I be Foghorn legs
00:31:31
now she always said he was uh Matt Foley was a combination of Foghorn Leghorn in
00:31:39
my dad I go what really I don't know I like uh
00:31:46
when he gets his voice high no use that bill shakesp
00:31:52
I can't see too good I hate them rabbits oh my God
00:31:58
what about and Matt Foley was a real guy he was a priest or something Matt Foley was just wrote yeah buddy uh Marquette
00:32:04
uh and they played rugby together and he went off to be uh he went up to be a priest at uh Jesuit priest there in uh
00:32:12
Chicago so Odin Curry has been one of those hilarious yeah they wrote you know when you write sketches you put in like someone's name you know and then that
00:32:18
name turns into something that's people know now yeah Odin Kirk was doing uh Second City with Chris and uh he got
00:32:26
hired on there because somebody had left and so they put Odenkirk in there and I
00:32:31
think all the other cat Chris was the only one was like don't worry Bob I got you and all the other casts somebody said I think Oden Carter goes somebody
00:32:38
kicked me when the lights were down in between scenes oh and Chris is like what God dang it uh but he had brought uh he
00:32:46
had brought Matt Foley to Second City he wrote it he I think we you guys we
00:32:51
talked about it yeah you know and he said it didn't get on right away which is shocking can you believe it didn't
00:32:57
get on right away was he full commitment because the air show the one that's famous uh the commitment was it felt
00:33:04
like I've never seen anyone commit harder to anything same thing same thing same energy yeah
00:33:12
yeah same energy same Odin Kirk and wrote it for himself and he looked at Chris he was like [ __ ] this is yours oh
00:33:17
yeah that was very generous it's hard to give up
00:33:22
so funny oh I know this is so good we're doing Bob odikirk yeah I everybody
00:33:29
you know what they always had to think of a new hook for Chris like you know when like where the uh I was the elf
00:33:36
like they'd always cram me into something like he's saying and I'm the Elf or whatever motivational Santa
00:33:41
motivational oh yeah but thank you in a motivational prison motivational I like when Phil goes you know they have to
00:33:48
have a new beginning uh we got a motivational Center here he's been down in the basement eating coffee beans the
00:33:55
last three hours made no sense yeah just to make any excuse of why is he so why is he so freaking amped up
00:34:02
David I got one question did you ever notice that uh well what was the what
00:34:07
was the basis behind did you remember the sketch uh what do you bench oh how
00:34:12
much fake legs and you had real legs did you know I think that was Fred Wolf that was funny because it was about everyone
00:34:19
talks about how much they bench these these Jews had idiots and they're all sitting around they're all of huge
00:34:24
muscles but they all have spindly legs that were like computer generated little
00:34:30
sticks because these guys never do leg day they call it golf tees that look golf tees yeah where you're just no legs
00:34:37
and you go up yeah and Fred was like do you care if you just use your legs because they're so skinny and then I go
00:34:44
no it'll be funny because someone will figure it out halfway through they go wait it fades real well I know I didn't
00:34:49
figure that out I looked at that that's hilarious Hans and prawns didn't have uh prosthetic legs they had tiny legs no
00:34:56
well I don't know if we had some thigh padding or whatever I'm not sure
00:35:01
but we had big bad biceps and shoulders I love being in that outfit man [ __ ]
00:35:07
hot yeah it was all about the clap and then the flex afterwards well they were paranoid delusional people with
00:35:13
imaginary enemies they never lifted away they just would admonish people who doubted them and if you don't think of a
00:35:19
property believe me very easily come to your house and
00:35:24
stretch your flap in the shape of a rope ladder so you can crawl down in the sewer because that's what losers live
00:35:30
you know because Oliver sorry I had to fit that I love it when they gave you a too hard of a question you guys got confused yeah yeah we don't know our
00:35:37
muscles are confused I can't believe it um that we love those characters I like
00:35:42
how easily you do Hans and Franz again yeah hear me now believe me later here and now that was Kevin's oh so funny
00:35:49
fish like the Gap girls oh yeah those are the Gap girls David what about Chris always put me in all the sketches when I
00:35:55
went to visit him at Saturday live so I was in gap girls once and then I was in uh one with Bill Murray called the whip
00:36:02
Master with uh Schneider the Gap had a guard
00:36:08
Tom all right what's your name Johnny because uh because Franken was talking
00:36:14
about Al Franken said he stole some jeans when the guard was crying during Hey Jude and they had a guard because
00:36:20
the gap was so into the sketch that they would send us a real corner of the store so yeah they would they would make it
00:36:26
look exactly like the Gap from punching such a close wow tons of clothes and it was all real and all expensive and then
00:36:32
they had a guard there which was very odd but I love with I just made it made it more cool I loved it oh my God yeah
00:36:38
another last thing is uh cleaning up is uh Spade says uh when McCartney came on
00:36:44
to Saturday Night Live that when he was walking down the hallway uh The Farley boys were all there drinking and hanging
00:36:51
out and said hey Paul you're getting a little salty up top no that was Tommy that said that I wasn't even in New York
00:36:57
I wasn't there should I ask Tommy when we talked to him if that was him yes but Tommy said that to Paul McCartney Bobby
00:37:03
said that out loud because and I was like you didn't want salty on top here no he said here was the quote he's
00:37:09
drinking and they walked from the music to the stage he's got his ear piece in with a bodyguard and he's got 10 feet
00:37:16
where he has to deal with real people like all these uh clowns that are jammed in there Red Cups drunk and uh and he's
00:37:23
like slow motion they're like Paul McCartney 30 seconds and he walks out we're all like oh my God and then Tom Farley with his red cup
00:37:31
Buzz goes hey Paul and Paul turns and he goes getting a little gray and then he
00:37:37
goes touches his hair as they open the door then you see him go on the Monitor and he's tuning his guitar and he looks
00:37:43
at a monitor and looks at his hair and goes like where was it gray so you can get in my head right before I go on live
00:37:49
TV he told me that story Paul did and his the same thing was said except Paul
00:37:55
remembers saying back I'll have to Shake in some Sergeant Pepper that was his hair
00:38:17
and I'd look at Johnny look at me and we'd be plonking that's how we came up with Abbey Road anyway
00:38:26
John Farley here he comes my last one is a good one
00:38:31
uh Kevin and I were uh it was Mother's Day coming up and uh it was after the
00:38:37
Mother's Day specials it wasn't that we were going to get Mom something or maybe it was for Christmas we're gonna get Mom something and we went down looked around
00:38:44
New York and we found this cute little Broach that goes a woman's broach the clown that goes on they're like oh we'll
00:38:50
give this to mom went back upstairs into the Christmas dressing room and we put it by his chair and uh and then we went
00:38:58
out and looked around the uh uh watched the show and we see the closing vows and
00:39:04
we see Chris getting up in the closing bells and he's wearing The Broach and he goes thanks guys this is a great brooch
00:39:11
I love it it's a clown and we were like that's for Mom that's a woman's never mind Chris
00:39:17
looks good on you
00:39:27
John Lewis was not part of this but he forced his way yeah John sent in a tape
00:39:33
we just decided to use it no John John Lovitz has some um really funny personal interactions
00:39:40
with Chris so this was a slightly different flavor um but always fun to listen to John
00:39:47
Chris taught me he didn't like either one all right where'd you want to ask you mean our friend Chris Farley that's
00:39:54
funny all right so so that's what he said the joke
00:40:00
that's what we do on this podcast it's called you two should have a show together you ever think about John on
00:40:06
the last thing we had Mrs Farley and we she said oh when I did the Mother's Day special uh we had lunch with Donald Trump and I
00:40:14
go there's gonna be crab cakes and I go Dana go ahead there's gonna be Graphics
00:40:19
like you wouldn't believe you know you're gonna see a lot of crab cakes and many people say they're not very good they look at them and they say no but
00:40:26
we're gonna do it anyway we're gonna do a lot of the crab cakes it's just a song I'll teach you the song it's hilarious
00:40:32
it's you know I got the gutter that's his mother um his mother is adorable she wanted to
00:40:39
caller Marianne but we called her Mrs Farley throughout the interview at the end she goes you can call me Marianne I
00:40:45
know I like kids uh she's just adorable I know she's nice I haven't seen her in years and she's a very nice lady and uh
00:40:52
his older brother Tom was very cool yeah John do you have any stories you'd like to share about our the great Chris
00:40:58
Farley you you had you didn't you did you hang out a lot of stories about Christmas did you ever meet him you know
00:41:04
I'll tell you good and bad stories the first time I met him was uh in the
00:41:11
offices of brillstein gray and he was going to be on SNL and um and I knew
00:41:17
that he he said he idolized John Belushi and I remember at the time thinking did
00:41:22
everyone really do everything they could to help John Belushi and Bernie goes we did everything we had a 24-hour
00:41:27
bodyguard because yeah but I go and it was so unfathomable to me when Belushi
00:41:34
died it just goes something's wrong like I don't know you know and that was my naivete because
00:41:39
I thought well do you really did everything that's what people think people think you're not doing anything people ask me right and I realized of
00:41:44
course they did but you know the person has dosed out but anyway um I didn't understand I just thought
00:41:50
God really everything so when I met Chris he was oh I'd like Belushi and I knew he was into drugs and stuff I just
00:41:56
said this guy's gonna kill himself so uh I done a movie Mr destiny that I was a
00:42:03
supporting role and it started Jim Belushi nice supporting role so I called
00:42:11
Jim's agent at the time was the guy Mike menchal at CA so I called Mike and I
00:42:16
told him about Chris and I said could you ask Jim to call this guy
00:42:21
because he's going to get on asking all the Allies at John and I you know I'm afraid he's going to do something to himself anyway after Chris passed away I
00:42:29
ran into Jim I said hey did you ever get my message from uh Mike Mitchell from me
00:42:35
that I said to call Chris and he said yeah I did I go oh did you call him he goes I did call him I said what did you
00:42:41
say he said I said my brother's dead you get it
00:42:47
and that's what he said and and but this was before Chris was famous or anything so then you got to look
00:42:54
well what happened who is his who is one of his closest friends when he passed away so arrows point to me John I think
00:43:01
so your square is lightning almost like a game shot comes back to space we have a winner we have but I'll tell
00:43:09
you I'll tell you I'll tell you two stories uh too funny story about Chris
00:43:16
so so he said um so we were close friends you know and
00:43:21
you know garbage and I had that beach house and you guys would come over yeah yeah remember Chris so Chris would come
00:43:27
over a lot and so one time this is when he was uh he was sober for three years
00:43:32
and I'm talking to him in the garage at the beach house and I said Chris uh I'm only saying this story so maybe it helps
00:43:39
somebody who's addicted but anyway I said Chris it's great that you got sober I go but now you got to lose weight I go
00:43:46
my dad's a doctor and I always be very blunt with Chris you know my dad's a
00:43:51
doctor and um I told him about you and he said oh
00:43:57
that's too bad he won't live to 40. because of your weight you gotta lose weight and he goes no John my dad's like
00:44:03
six six or six five ways 600 pounds he's so my dad's was 600 pounds he's 65 he's
00:44:10
still alive I'm going well Chris and he said but you got to love yourself get you there though yeah that is a good point it's
00:44:17
like Chris you got a lot you have to love yourself and he goes okay but John
00:44:23
if I love myself and I love drugs and they make me feel
00:44:29
good and I deprive myself of drugs isn't that depriving myself of love if someone
00:44:36
started glad he got you twice laughing and I said shut up you idiot
00:44:42
what can I rest myself it's funny but it was not I go shut up like an idiot he was laughing too yeah he said yeah Chris
00:44:48
they make you feel good but they kill you you know I think people need to know when we do all these stories and we talk
00:44:54
and we laugh we're not laughing at anything about morbid about the death it's just the way we're always together
00:45:00
laughing about stuff like this and the way friends laugh about that stuff it was well he was funny I mean it was a
00:45:07
funny thing everything is funny when you're with comedians so everything we would make fun of even if it's you think
00:45:13
you shouldn't so well he was making a joke about it yeah he was always kind of
00:45:18
joking even when he was serious you know I mean I remember one time we went to um
00:45:23
I don't know if Dana I think it was Dana and you David and Chris I know it was you and Chris we went to a Laker game in
00:45:30
my car do you remember that and then and Chris had like six beers
00:45:36
and then we went to a that club bar one and I know David I don't forget Dana I
00:45:41
know this story yeah David was there and I go let's go to bar one and we go and
00:45:46
then and Chris Lane didn't even bag of mushrooms or something I go Jesus
00:45:52
you know I mean he was just his appetite was amazing but uh but he was a great
00:45:58
guy and he was the funniest in a two things he did that were so funny one was I had I used to have a um
00:46:05
a Super Bowl party at my house because I I it was fun and then David was there
00:46:10
and Chris one time David came and uh with a lot of people and Chris came with his brothers and everything so I just
00:46:17
gotten these two new cats kittens so I put them in a room there's like a hundred people at my house anyway I put
00:46:23
them in a room in my house and shut the door and put a sign up do not enter cats inside
00:46:30
so about half hour into the party I'm walking down my hall to my bedroom and I
00:46:35
hear Chris go John and he's in the bedroom with the where
00:46:41
the cats and I look in and I had these uh rolls I had the party was catered
00:46:46
like uh for hot dogs and stuff but they were shaped like a you know football and he had the kitten in the roll
00:46:54
and like he was eating it like it was a sandwich yes like a sandwich and it was
00:46:59
the funniest of course he wasn't hurting the cat and my cat was just hanging there had no I did a little kitten the
00:47:05
cutest thing had no idea what was happening and even though he was in a bit in a sandwich yeah with Farley he's
00:47:11
biting on the sandwich and I have a picture of it it's on uh how did you
00:47:16
take a picture of it did you ever I said I was crying laughing I said I go stay here we're gonna put it up on my Instagram
00:47:23
yeah I took a pillow it was the funniest thing ever and then well I you want to
00:47:30
hear another story is it temp match I have time for one more raunchy or we have editing capabilities
00:47:36
so I had I was at the beach and um I had this girl over that I like so
00:47:43
we're out on the deck facing the ocean she's really pretty and stuff and we had an outdoor shower anyway Chris was there
00:47:50
so I'm talking this grown stuff and then I hear this voice John as usual John
00:47:56
what so I turn around and he's naked and it's just covered in soap with
00:48:02
his hair and his whole body from head to toe so throw it away so um it's all
00:48:08
right this is the adventure so I say to my friend I go the girl I go she doesn't see it so of course I say turn around to
00:48:15
her turn around what turn around ruin her life this is your first date yeah so
00:48:22
she turns around and she's like ah she sees Chris and Chris is like oh and he's
00:48:28
screaming of course I'm crying laughing yeah so then and she's be ready so then later on
00:48:35
about 10 minutes later he walks he's child up he's got a towel around himself
00:48:40
and he walks in front of us facing the ocean and he drops the towel and he's
00:48:46
right in front of our Lounge he's like you know two feet away and he drops the towel completely nude and says hello
00:48:52
Malibu and then he's laughing and then he bends
00:48:58
down to pick up his towel well the momentum
00:49:05
between his legs and raining in the girl's face
00:49:10
oh God you're a very observant person Jesus
00:49:17
she screamed it she screamed again well listen and you ended up marrying
00:49:23
her and that woman is my these are real Farley stories not the fake ones that you guys tell and then he put the he put
00:49:31
the towel around him and I got Chris come here and I go when you bent over your balls right through your legs right in front of you no ah I go yeah they did
00:49:38
he goes no hi John I go no I go ask her and he looks here he goes did they and
00:49:44
she looks at him beat right over their head shaking up and down he's like oh it was hilarious and then there was the
00:49:50
fire story I can't believe Jennifer Aniston had to put up with that
00:49:56
she wishes she wishes it was her John this fire was telling you the girl was
00:50:02
you might get upset my wife
00:50:08
all right oh the fire story in 93. I was shooting a film called City Slickers too
00:50:14
I don't know every story you have starts with them a promotion for a movie so I'm
00:50:21
in Culver City yes shooting movie what movie was it City Slickers too oh yes and the fires
00:50:28
are raging oh and for some and I can see it on TV and for some reason
00:50:34
I I was talking to you David and
00:50:39
and I think you said you called we're talking about the fires and you called
00:50:44
Chris I go where's he goes he's out in the ocean in front of your house and Chris said
00:50:50
um you said how's the beach and he goes it's nice but it's really overcast and I think David you said you idiot that's
00:50:57
not clouds it's smoke from the fire and by the way the fires were so bad the
00:51:03
house I bought in Malibu which is right down oh it's burned down it burned down so I bought it after they rebuilt it
00:51:09
because I was yeah it was five houses away from me the fire was so across the
00:51:15
street uh the fire station was on fire so they had these helicopters that's not good so
00:51:21
I called Chris I go no that's right David told me he was in the house so I called Chris to go you're in the house yeah like you got to get out of there
00:51:29
um but um can you get some stuff in my room I go can you just get a bag and put like this in this and this no I'm only
00:51:34
getting three bucks I'm like God damn it Chris you [ __ ] get this [ __ ] you [ __ ] ass no so
00:51:42
you wouldn't get it and I remember watching this thing again no and there
00:51:48
was a helicopter above the house my house that were rented with garbage and you could see it the the house and you
00:51:54
could see that it was all of a sudden covered in smoking got crap the house just burned down and it didn't but the
00:52:01
fire was directly across the street from the house I mean it was that close and Christmas just thought it was overcast
00:52:06
and David had to get out of there you idiot well did how did he get out of there God if I tell you how you'll get
00:52:13
mad call it your wife swam up on a raft and said hop on
00:52:24
I remember I think Earth said he was driving he could feel the heat on P he's driving outside from the
00:52:31
mountains but the the hill directly across the street was on fire from the beach and they would jump the whole of
00:52:37
those houses got burned houses on that beach got burned I didn't like that essential nervous system didn't work I
00:52:43
go Chris can you at least let's say it's clouds can you feel the heat yes okay it's a fire and then uh yeah
00:52:51
you had to tell him yeah he couldn't get it that he shouldn't be out in the water anymore and uh he had to come in but uh
00:52:58
John you did a Coneheads with him wait you didn't have any scenes with him
00:53:04
I was in conehead I didn't have any scenes with him I'll tell you though I think he was a great actor I saw him he
00:53:10
guessed it on a Tom Arnold at a sitcom I remember he guessed it on it and I remember watching him in that and I
00:53:15
thought his acting was great I like uh he really connect no but I mean you know he wasn't just being silly it was it was
00:53:22
I mean he was he had the hall package but the funniest thing was you know when he first got on the show like you David
00:53:29
you looked up to Dana and Eyes Like Your Heroes so anyway yes because we were there
00:53:36
before and then Chris started doing movies and I said Chris how much are you getting paid in the movie goes six
00:53:42
million dollars and then he looked at me goes John students
00:53:48
um oh and now the student has become the
00:53:53
teacher wasn't that something I told him probably but he said it was very funny
00:53:59
when he started doing well well honestly I think I said it and then I said it one night to you know who and then she said
00:54:06
it to you Dana I just thought it was one a young cast member started getting good I'd say the
00:54:11
student becomes the teacher but maybe I did it as hard no I believe you well he
00:54:17
yeah he said it to me no it's a good one it's a good anyway yeah did you um I'm
00:54:25
trying to think of it I met him right before he got this I remember he was visiting the show the first thing I
00:54:30
heard about him was from Bob Odenkirk he goes oh this guy where did this guy gets he's so funny
00:54:37
he's so funny he just stands there and he's funny he's going to be the funniest guy in the show and of course I'm like
00:54:43
well I'm sure he's funny I don't feel yeah calm down boss he was hilarious but
00:54:48
but I mean yeah sure off screen everyone goes who's the funniest ever and uh
00:54:54
Chris would I mean you're all you guys are hilarious but he would do anything well yeah he was he would throw himself
00:55:00
on the sidewalk he'd just put hey lady it's just like thrill himself down on the sidewalk he goes I'm a trainer and
00:55:06
he starts doing push-ups in front of girls like what the [ __ ] he's like oh yeah run a gym nearby this does push-ups
00:55:13
and they just keep walking yeah it's pretty funny there's other stories about him that I I I'll tell you guys to make
00:55:19
the other one even no they make the other ones seem mild I can't tell him but you know he was a great well there's
00:55:26
a show stopper now all our fans are clicking off yeah just say one and we'll
00:55:32
cut it out later we'll cut it out later okay because your time's up already no I I can't
00:55:38
I'll tell you to I'll tell you guys in person why don't you tell me when you take me to catch steak and my [ __ ]
00:55:44
fish is 150 why don't we all go to dinner tonight no oh well I'll buy you dinner even though you're making money
00:55:51
off my stories and I'm making and [ __ ] I'm making money off you might want to turn the podcast back on
00:55:57
lie on the floor yeah why why aren't you two and John's joint the new podcast
00:56:02
from Cadence it's John's joint it's speeding I'm doing a podcast I go
00:56:08
hi little fly and I'm on a wall oh I wonder what Dane and David are saying then I play your podcast I go well be
00:56:16
back next week that's what they're saying darn you love it
00:56:22
you seem like a critique of your podcast that would be funny
00:56:27
uh we're gonna play it back I'll tell you where they were right where they were wrong
00:56:33
um the thing about David and Dana it's that thing of like they're both on the show and they're both blonde and David
00:56:40
looked up to Dana and David Dennis Miller and then he got on the show and then he he had his little update
00:56:47
Hollywood piece and then he grew and he became partners with Farley and it said
00:56:53
thing of like you know yes that's a good that was a good Lauren we got a Lauren on him we'll do a
00:56:59
compilation he's still looking for the new Chris and he found it you know every
00:57:06
time he sees a fat person he feels like this might be it every time he sees a fat person an angel gets its wings what
00:57:13
what It's a Wonderful fatty the new motion
00:57:18
picture I actually love it when Lauren was on I go I appreciate that because I was having trouble the first three years ago that you didn't get give up on me he
00:57:25
goes that would the you were supposed to be there the whole time that was always the plan I I never told you this I
00:57:31
thought you were bringing the show down and I said Lauren we got it's either
00:57:37
if you want me to come back I appreciate your candor I gotta get you guys how would you have done that Hollywood
00:57:42
minute let's see if you can do the bye bye character you know the flight attendant the Hollywood minute I would
00:57:47
have done it really dude oh yeah is this thing still
00:57:52
recording aren't you [ __ ] yeah we're gonna trap you goodbye
00:57:58
goodbye bye everybody goodbye bye do your catchphrase goodbye everybody
00:58:04
goodbye I'll give you on I'll give you anywhere you can sing ready goodbye everybody
00:58:09
goodbye but it wasn't just saying that it wasn't just it was a whole sketch oh yeah it
00:58:16
was a thing it was too complex no it was very simple his name was Mr Canby and he
00:58:21
was the richest man in the world and he was an idiot and he had all these
00:58:27
businessmen on his board and he drove them nuts and and he said I'm leaving goodbye
00:58:34
everybody goodbye say goodbye Mr candy see you later everybody goodbye miss Camby goodbye everybody goodbye and then
00:58:40
I'd leave like what do we do while you're gonna go buy Kit Kat welcome bye everybody
00:58:45
goodbye because they'd be eating a kid cat there's Mr candy cane c-a-n-b-y so
00:58:51
he'd leave the room worse and then Phil Hartman and Dana and Whitney Brown they go God can you
00:58:57
believe we work for this idiot he's such a [ __ ] and Phil's like and then Whitney's guy Whitney goes yeah
00:59:05
buy a you know buy 300 buy 500 shares at KitKat he hangs up he goes God it's so
00:59:11
stupid he's such a [ __ ] then the phone rings and Phil goes hello what you don't say oh you're kidding if
00:59:19
and when he goes what Phil goes Kit Kat just went up 300 million and then I come back and then I come
00:59:26
back in the room hello everybody I forgot my wallet and then so after the
00:59:32
sketch was over you'd have to get a question Mr can be and then Phil goes Mr Canby
00:59:38
KitKat just went up 300 million I go well you see buy what you love and you can't go wrong and at that Lauren burst
00:59:45
out laughing his specifically so after the sketch you would get ready for good nights right
00:59:52
[Laughter] when you'd finish Mr Canby you'd have to do a quick change I'm just saying that
00:59:57
was the schedule goodbye everybody goodbye it's ridiculous but it was on and then 12 57.
01:00:04
the next year you had David Spade going bye-bye bye-bye yeah
01:00:12
genius yeah I thought you couldn't say that no so I ended up sticking it in um at
01:00:19
the end of it I did Tales of Real Madrid good night everybody I I go good night
01:00:25
everyone I'm evely Quinns goodbye everybody goodbye and they told me that I stuck I snuck it in and the whole
01:00:32
control room they said everyone applauded and cheered like Yay got it in
01:00:38
just like I got it in Dana you know what
01:00:43
I don't know what he's saying all right can we just air that part and the whole sketch yeah not air anything else
01:00:49
nothing else just goodbye everybody goodbye it was so great go ahead money he wants money
01:00:55
oh Jesus Christ you need someone what are you guys making hmm
01:01:01
peanut butter peanut butter sandwich I'm gonna think I get paid for this no but if you did get paid I would say
01:01:08
no I'm leaving Bo Derek came off of the movie 10. she
01:01:16
did Tommy Boy she was an international star a lovely lady and here's her recollections
01:01:22
David's wearing the bathing suit you wore in the movie 10 just that church to be pithy so I I thought it was a bad
01:01:29
choice but he's wearing it well Dana I will tell you that Beau was in Tommy Boy
01:01:35
uh yes and master disguise but Tommy Boy was a bigger hit she was in master
01:01:40
disguise of course sorry about that yeah I opened it I think yeah I think you
01:01:46
were the oh yeah it was sort of like you were flying around and then then she
01:01:52
turns into James Brolin I believe right it was as if James Brolin could put a
01:01:57
disguise on and look like Bo Derek anyway it did 40 million domestic and 100 million with video so it was still
01:02:04
nothing anybody I didn't get any of that but anyway thanks for coming on but Tommy Boy which has gotten shinier and
01:02:12
brighter as I like to say in these 30 years it's sort of a cult classic Now with uh with Chris and you and Rob Lowe
01:02:19
so anyway do you have a question David since you were in the movie as well well I just want to say that Beau probably
01:02:25
might have some musings and you don't need to have hardcore hilarious stories but I know that Chris liked you a lot I
01:02:32
thought we all had a really it was a bit of a tough shoot of time but it was really fun and one of my great memories
01:02:38
obviously and you could not have been sweeter do you remember anything about that movie that jumps out at all
01:02:43
I remember in I don't know David nobody's ever who dropped out that I took oh but I
01:02:51
jumped in and took that part you know Bo I can't even tell you I I know Julie
01:02:57
Warner was Chris's girlfriend in it you were Brian denne he I that's such a good
01:03:04
question I don't know yeah I was just curious
01:03:14
talk yes and at the factory and uh I got a call and I had to
01:03:22
I promise jump on a plane to Toronto that night oh my God it got on that side
01:03:28
I saw wow the bathing suit shot was that when
01:03:34
you were in the pool and you came out and met Denny he and Brian I mean and Farley oh yeah
01:03:40
yes geez off the plane such a good question who was it well
01:03:46
we're lucky it wound up being you because just you know I don't want anything different about that movie it
01:03:52
worked the way it worked and I wouldn't have it any other way and uh so exciting to have you there
01:03:58
um I thought we had a good time there we didn't all do all our scenes together I wondered Dana if Beau was there uh if
01:04:04
she remembers when Farley and I got an argument when he stepped on my hand of the tuna fish sandwich and then we
01:04:09
walked into the scene and I think the scene was Beau and Rob
01:04:14
is that possible bro yes I I don't remember one artist ah there you go I
01:04:20
remember quite a few you guys you guys were I could say Brothers
01:04:28
um and sometimes lovers yes I think we always used to joke that we were like an
01:04:35
old married couple except we slept in the same bed uh but you know we we would
01:04:40
go back and forth as bow new like everyone knows Toronto to uh SNL the
01:04:45
worst part about it for me was I wasn't in much and I was a writer so I would sort of have to write my own stuff and I
01:04:51
didn't have time to write anything so I'm like do I have to come back for read through if I'm not really in anything and Farley would get 19 sketches written
01:04:59
for him so it was more it was tough for me just mentally and humiliation wise to
01:05:05
go all the way back and then come all the way back but the whole experience in hindsight like surgery was
01:05:12
one of the best of my life I mean I think you must hear about Tommy Boy still I hope you do I hear about it all
01:05:20
the time I was just at the big Chargers Kansas City game oh um Sunday and everybody was
01:05:28
coming up and talking to me about that yeah wow it's really interesting especially in a crowd like that you can
01:05:34
imagine oh that's right in the pocket oh yeah I mean I I hear I have to say I think about Chris I'm not even lying
01:05:40
when I say every day because there's little things and Tommy Boy we we would play sometimes at the hotel or in make
01:05:48
up this stupid song uh Maxine Nightingale you gotta get right back to
01:05:54
where you started from it's like just this toe Tapper of a song and it just made us in a good mood and we'd play it
01:06:00
and it was so dumb but out of nowhere that song comes on there's a lot of songs that you don't realize remind you
01:06:06
of people and then yeah Dancing in the Moonlight we try to get in the movie uh
01:06:12
and we didn't have time to shoot it but that song now uh reminds me of him so
01:06:18
there's a lot of that kind of thing going on and um that it it really tugs your heartstrings
01:06:24
because if I don't hear about Tommy Boy I think of something about him or black sheep or you know I have his Tommy Boy
01:06:31
jacket in the house and there's pictures up so it's just I'm not going to get away from it I don't want to get away
01:06:36
from it we talked at the very end Bo is right there was some tension here and there overall we try to laugh off
01:06:42
everything because it is fun to do a movie it is hard but it's fun it's fun you know no you guys were great and did
01:06:49
you have any sense that it was going to be a big hit while we were doing it not
01:06:55
really I think I think we were just so excited to be in a movie and uh letting
01:07:00
it just come up with stuff on the set and we had a script that was kind of funny and then we just crossed our fingers but we
01:07:06
weren't in that uh ethernet of people that were doing big movies so to have a
01:07:12
sleeper do well or open number one was such a big deal and it was never that huge of a
01:07:18
hit Dana it wasn't like Wayne's World is over 100 million this was I think it capped out like 35 million
01:07:24
but it lived on and then it did bigger in video and on HBO and then you know it just started it just kept going so I I
01:07:31
really like that I like that it it meant more to have it keep going so Bo can I ask you a question do you so
01:07:38
when you got on the set was that the first time you met David and Chris yes
01:07:43
and I had just flown in yeah and you met them and which one was uh your first
01:07:49
impression of David or Chris who was the more gentleman uh just you know because
01:07:56
Chris what a horrible question I'm just trying I'm just trying to jog memories or stir
01:08:02
the pot but uh Chris liked beautiful women and he was had a very funny flirtatious way about him and a kind of
01:08:09
an energy about him I don't know if he ever picked you up or anything like that but uh physically but he was a big he's
01:08:16
a hugger a big teddy bear but he must have been very enthusiastic to meet you I'm assuming yeah he was he was doing
01:08:23
that scene where he was out in the little tiny dinghy boat on the Lake OH classic when it was half thinking yeah
01:08:31
and he and he came up and yes he knew he was churning on the charm and he was
01:08:37
just adorable you know he has that I think he had that striped t-shirt where his belly's hanging out yeah yeah yeah
01:08:43
and I didn't really know who who everyone was sure from the telegram on
01:08:49
the on the telegram didn't give us the bio program or the facts Chris Farley
01:08:55
stop David Chris Farley stop need you immediately
01:09:01
immediately David Spade anyway but yeah yeah the David David was
01:09:06
I I remember you always had low blood sugar and someone had to go get you a
01:09:11
tuna sandwich and but but Chris was just Charming just fantastic and I said
01:09:19
always just eaten a tuna fish sandwich and do you remember the the cappuccino
01:09:26
machine that exotic thing that was in the trailer and Chris would go in and down three
01:09:33
scolding hot cappuccinos right before I take it yeah and he would get he would get uh
01:09:41
in quotes Moody later in the day you were both Moody I know it was crazy
01:09:48
it was crazy but uh yes uh he um the
01:09:54
cappuccino was really to get up Dana because we hadn't done a movie and he would drink a quick shot between each
01:10:00
take at the beginning and then we all realized this is not that's going to come back to haunt you yeah so we sort
01:10:07
of paced it out but most the movie is memorizing lines and you know it's getting colder as we shoot and you're
01:10:14
just trying to um just keep the balls in the air and keep it fun and get lost but
01:10:19
uh yeah I mean I I remember the last time I saw him he
01:10:25
was trying to ditch a reporter and I hadn't seen him for a month or two and he said can you cover me because he
01:10:33
was he had two gals he ran into and he goes can you run a smoke screen and I said uh yeah I can buy you some time and
01:10:41
and uh and he said he there was this movie he wanted to do he goes all people care about his Tommy Boy I don't know why
01:10:48
we're not doing those anymore let's just do those again and and it was really nice and then he went and then he took
01:10:54
those girls and got drunk and then they went to Hawaii and the guy and the reporter for Us
01:10:59
magazine goes Hey where's Chris I go I think he went to the bathroom and then I bought Tim and said he goes did he take
01:11:04
off I go yeah I don't know dude and then they were a hair behind him and then uh
01:11:09
my manager called and goes did you know Farley just charged three tickets to Hawaii on his card and now he's over
01:11:15
there and I go um I didn't but it feels like those pieces fit together I want I want to be
01:11:22
that spontaneous I want to kind of like crazy say to my wife let's just go to the airport don't even pack let's just
01:11:28
go pick a place to go that same I think you gotta be more Chris yeah that's that's a good thing he would do but Beau
01:11:34
is used to flirting so she could tell if Chris comes up with that hey you're so Purdy yeah he would Crouch she can see
01:11:41
it a mile away I can see him crouching down boy yeah he just had such a charm uh an earnestness too yeah yeah I never
01:11:49
had an argument with him but I David is Scrappy physically if he had to fight Chris I would it would be it'd be a
01:11:56
match but it might go up to 10 seconds before he was double your size or maybe
01:12:02
triple sounds pretty big maybe it wasn't maybe more you know I used to tell him he's a good looking dude I thought he
01:12:08
had cool hair I go you're actually a good looking dude because he couldn't believe all these girls like them
01:12:13
and he goes I'm fat but they just want somebody funny I go you're actually not a bad looking dude and you are fun to
01:12:19
hang out with and so I don't know if Bo can vouch for that but as a as a girl he
01:12:25
wasn't a bad looking dude do you think well he's very cute right yeah he was cute he was his eyes are beautiful yeah
01:12:32
see his eyes were really pretty really pretty eyes but and I remember we were and the same
01:12:38
thing happened I did a movie with Dudley Moore and Chris picked me up we were all going out
01:12:44
to dinner and then a blues Club I think and it was just the two of us in the car he was speechless
01:12:50
could not speak so shy just had the hardest time
01:12:56
sure well everybody gets that I mean that's uh you are slightly intimidating for uh
01:13:02
when they don't know how nice you are no no no he just I it happens I think a lot of
01:13:07
people who are funny tend to um you know put it on when there's an
01:13:13
audience and then all of a sudden one-on-one just frees up well listen you
01:13:18
got to work with them and that was that's fun and uh got to know him and we had a great time sneaking over to that
01:13:24
Brass Rail at night and um spending our per diem and yeah [Laughter]
01:13:32
did you ever run into him since then I remember the premiere I think Clooney was at the premiere because he was my
01:13:38
mom said George Clooney's flirting with me I go I don't know I think he just said hello Mom I don't know if that's what that is but Chris was there and we
01:13:45
saw you there I'm sure right were you at the premiere yeah and then after that did you ever run into him did you come
01:13:50
to SNL I didn't I didn't I never saw him again that was the time and he was
01:13:55
really sweet he was very thankful because you know that now I can't get arrested but then you know I helped kind
01:14:02
of open the film in a way and I did a lot of publicity because you guys were known in in one sector but not
01:14:09
necessarily we weren't known much at all you were like I mean if that was after 10 in that movie I'm not I wasn't in
01:14:15
Showbiz really when I was always after 10. knowing after 10 that when that when
01:14:21
that came out how how much it must have changed your life and how you know when big movies come out and they they do so
01:14:28
well that people just freak out and that's kind of seems like it must have been one of those those so of course you
01:14:34
would have been a huge huge help in getting that I'll figure out way more than us
01:14:40
he was so sweet he was so grateful yeah yeah well I am too because that really
01:14:45
got it going for me too so well it's fun the movie is Evergreen and it's just gonna trundle along and someone
01:14:51
somewhere is watching it right now and joining it so it's fun to be part of a classic you know yeah it's keeping the
01:14:57
lights on at TBS for the last you know years thanks for sharing your stories
01:15:03
about our friend Chris and we're just kind of celebrating him yeah I loved him just loved him lucky to know him
01:15:13
next up is Brad cravoy who produced Chris's movie Beverly Hills Ninja
01:15:20
what year did you make that movie with him I think 1997 I don't know I can find out for you
01:15:27
but uh it was right out was right after Kingpin Dumb Dumber Kingpin and then somebody said you know you gotta break
01:15:34
out a little bit and what about Chris and so David I just learned about you
01:15:40
and Chris at that time because you were just done Tommy Boy right right right right right around that time and um
01:15:47
I don't know he was just the greatest I I want to talk a little bit about Ninja because it's come back in the news of
01:15:53
course you've heard that Christian Bale says it's a masterpiece and his favorite movie of all time you guys know that
01:15:58
right oh I love that I heard that I read that that really made me laugh yeah yeah well we heard today that Jonah Hill's
01:16:05
favorite movie is Tommy Boy yeah so ninja that's that was a a big
01:16:11
one you know I have first a question and we get to ninja on Kingpin was Chris talking to you
01:16:18
about playing Randy Quaid part I thought that was happening I love Chris okay he's he was such a I mean you guys know
01:16:25
better than anybody he was such a sweet but funny guy love to entertain so you know working with the Fairly Brothers
01:16:31
they have very strong Creative Visions about who they like I I wanted Chris for that but I think Pete and Bobby wanted
01:16:38
to go a little different direction and they did a great job you know Randy Quaid and Bill Murray and Woody so you
01:16:45
know that's how that went and so that's why when I got this grip for Beverly Hills Ninja I was so happy because it
01:16:51
was really perfect for Chris and as far as I could tell nobody was ever thinking about him for that role because it
01:16:58
suited him so perfect and when you think about it because he was such a physical comedy guy and the role is a fish out of
01:17:05
water comedy it was like I couldn't believe it when I got this [ __ ] it was it was amazing but the thing is it
01:17:12
almost never happened because I mean you're you guys work with Mark irvitz and uh yeah he tortured I
01:17:21
think I think there's a drop more there was me to know and Bernie a little bit
01:17:26
Bernie brillston but gervitz in particular so when we finally figured it out okay and Chris did you know agreed
01:17:34
to do the movie because of gervous I think Griffiths ultimately helped I said to Chris I said
01:17:39
you know what this guy gurvis he tortured me what's your best prank we could play on him so what we did we had
01:17:47
a night before cast dinner at the old Palm remember on Santa Monica right
01:17:53
around Doheny we had the room and we always called him Mr Dark Cloud
01:17:59
gurvitz because you know nothing ever good was happened from this movie or any movie yeah it's never going to happen
01:18:06
so Chris coined him Chief Dark Cloud and so I did a little little research and
01:18:13
there was a local Indian tribe that had roots in Los Angeles called the Tonga
01:18:19
Indian tribe so we made a couple calls and I got the chief to come to the dinner at the Palm and
01:18:26
Chris was basically set this up for Mark and the Chief came with a bunch of his
01:18:31
buddies they did a little powwow around the dinner table and then presented marker of its Chief Dark Cloud with
01:18:38
Indian headdress so if you oh wow if you go into his office today because someone
01:18:43
said they were in the office pre-pandemic you would see it but with the world the way it's going I'm not
01:18:50
sure he has the nerve to present it in public anymore but it's probably there somewhere but Chris was so happy
01:18:59
to pull this prank on gurvis like he like he was beaming I mean he was so
01:19:04
happy he was so happy to get through this yeah yeah gervitz for the audience is Dana's manager my manager Chris's
01:19:12
manager all this whole time so uh that's that is funny because he's very tough on
01:19:18
these deals but I I remember I think Chris got six million it was in variety on the head on the cover and we all saw
01:19:25
it at SNL in Lauren's office laying out in that outside office Dana were you
01:19:30
waiting to go in right and we were all like what the [ __ ] no one knew and and
01:19:35
Chris was like is that a lie yeah did he get did he get that much I mean did he
01:19:42
get six million or is it is it classified you know what was it it was it in the
01:19:48
ballpark I would say he had never received a paycheck as large as that uh
01:19:53
then maybe after sure but I don't think Tommy Boy come out by then had it David
01:19:59
had had Tommy Boy come out well no I think Convoy came out then Black Sheep
01:20:05
and then I think Ninja uh but Tommy Boy he had a set price and
01:20:12
then Black Sheep he had a two-picture deal because of you know he made a typical Paramount but
01:20:19
I didn't and so I actually got more than him and black sheep because of a
01:20:24
contractual snag they did I had to renegotiate and his was already set and
01:20:29
oh believe me that [ __ ] burned his onion and then you know what I mean but then he went sky-high with that yeah
01:20:36
like we made up for it and that's a girl that's kept on saying he's got to make more than space
01:20:42
oh good God he blew By Me on a rocket ship and I think maybe was he in talks
01:20:49
to do Cable Guy back then and then that fell apart because of everything Black Sheep I think the timing on that
01:20:56
you know work to help you on that movie but you know what I I know he was so
01:21:02
appreciative of earning what he did earn but to me he was like pure comedy Genius
01:21:08
Like I remember when we agreed we're gonna do the movie we wanted to work on some on Simpsons scenes on the script
01:21:15
like some set pieces so I went to Chicago I went to his place we hung out
01:21:20
down there this is like it was defining moment in my career because after we were finished for the night he goes oh
01:21:25
let's go out partying Eddie took me to this place and he became one of the
01:21:31
characters from SNL and everybody there loved him and he was like going crazy he was sweating all over the place he was
01:21:37
dancing and he was just having a really fun time and that to me is like how I
01:21:42
remember Chris he had that side he just loved life so much and he loved to
01:21:48
please people with his performance and his humor I don't know how you felt working with him but that was my
01:21:53
experience he would light up the room because people would light up when they saw him and he would go out of his way
01:21:59
you know to to be nice so we had to make a wish uh wish on Beverly Hills Ninja
01:22:05
and I remember when the kid came to set like you would think Chris was his big brother you know he took care of him all
01:22:10
day he wouldn't make sure it was okay like it meant a lot to him to look after somebody and I just think it says so
01:22:17
much to him and and I did a little research and I remember now what happened because he said oh will you
01:22:23
will you take care of my buddy Chris Rock because I think at that time Chris was was just emerging you know 25 years
01:22:30
ago Chris was just building his career but everybody knew like Chris was a genius I mean Chris is a comedy genius
01:22:36
he's just unbelievable for what he does so he goes when he was in ninja right right and he goes you gotta find a part
01:22:43
for my buddy Chris Rock I said are you kidding of course we're gonna find a park for Chris Rock the problem was yeah
01:22:50
that some people didn't accept the idea that we'd have another star like Chris Rock and I kept saying
01:22:57
we gotta make this part bigger we kind of make this part bigger right we pay Chris well but the part was really bad and to this
01:23:04
day when I see Chris and he talks about Beverly Hills Ninja he is not happy
01:23:10
about the role he played he played a bellhop and then oh I remember yeah and
01:23:15
the director and he I think had a little thing I don't know what happened the next thing I knew I'm looking at the
01:23:21
dailies and remember from Seth that Chris was chasing around some chickens at the hotel and he was pissed and he
01:23:31
still talked about today and I wish we could edit that stuff out because it's it's horrible I mean Chris Rock he's the
01:23:37
best you know he's so quiet I think it was between leaving SNL and
01:23:42
his special coming out and being huge so there was that in between period for about a year where he took a job got
01:23:49
paid well and it maybe you know that happens in movies it's not perfect and obviously he's way better but you know
01:23:56
it's just we all were in Coneheads that wasn't the best movie in the world but everybody from SNL was like jury duty we
01:24:03
all did something that and that wasn't a huge hit but Chris was in it I was in it Adam was in everyone had something to do
01:24:08
in it uh and those things happen but Chris uh Rock obviously land on his feet
01:24:14
and um we talked to him just recently with this uh thing oh you did yeah we
01:24:20
talked to him just now he was really slamming you no I'm kidding no and uh I'm kidding I'm kidding
01:24:28
one year he did his monologue and I just finished a movie of Cuba Gooding Jr I
01:24:34
will not say the name and the first thing he says when he gets up there is hey did anybody ever see that movie that
01:24:40
you Cuba did I oh that was my movie yeah yeah so he's not happy still he's still
01:24:45
talking did you Brad did you ever go go after him for any other movies after
01:24:51
that or was it ninja and that was it was it pretty much toward the end well the thing that I learned because I you
01:24:59
know in my family there was somebody that had you know issues of addiction and um so it's always really sensitive
01:25:06
to that and I just just kept thinking he was so perfect he was always on time he
01:25:11
was always so professional you know he wanted to do the best job as long as he was scheduled and then the second you
01:25:18
know the movie ended it seems like things went a little bit crazy right because it was unscheduled and so uh I
01:25:26
definitely wanted to work with him again we talked about a couple other projects um but you know it didn't come to be and
01:25:33
it the saddest part I don't know I mean I don't want to get this is like an upbeat thing but he he always would say you
01:25:42
know my idol my idol John Belushi and I
01:25:47
want to be like him and you know it's gonna end like that and I say Chris no no no no no you're the new version the
01:25:53
ones built to last right and uh I mean John Belushi genius right
01:25:59
but it was he just that was like his older brother almost like his Idol and
01:26:04
he just emulated everything he could it seemed to me at that time in his life when I was with him and it just it just
01:26:11
didn't have to be because he loved everybody Chris you know he was also really spiritual there were times like I
01:26:17
think we had to work on a Sunday and he asked to get you know a local local
01:26:22
church member to come give him communion on that day like you know he was really a spiritual guy yeah every Sunday he'd
01:26:29
he'd go out all night go straight to church not no joke he would just go I gotta be there I gotta be there no
01:26:34
matter what at like 7 A.M mass or whatever and he'd go and then he goes okay back to normal he needed that you
01:26:41
know and he loved you like and so that was the one thing we try to do is to find
01:26:46
something that you guys could do together that wasn't a Tommy Boy type thing you know because that's such a
01:26:52
great view they're all going to just turn into that if we did them it's just the way it is but it's funny I remember
01:26:58
Aykroyd pulling him aside to tell him Belushi was my guy and you you just
01:27:04
can't do it you know you can't go down that road because Chris Love Belushi he'd wear Belushi's
01:27:09
he'd find his pants and wardrobe that were still there that set it on the inside and he'd wear them under his
01:27:14
pants he'd put his pants on then he'd put his other big pants on just to get the magic of whatever you
01:27:20
know so he was and Blue Shield I think they both died at 33 so it was it was
01:27:26
leading down that road and he always had a caveat where well Belushi partied hard
01:27:31
and if I want to be like him you know even though he knew down deep it wasn't really the way but it is it was
01:27:38
unfortunately the road he went down but I'll tell you he he'd be so happy
01:27:45
now to hear the Christian Bale arguably oh my god of his generation saying that
01:27:53
Chris Farley's performance in Beverly Hills Ninja was a masterpiece I love
01:27:58
that I love that he'd be so happy I cannot I mean it's Christian Bale you're right probably arguably one of
01:28:06
the top three actors out there yeah it's good as good as it's ever been well just the fact that he's film actor still like
01:28:12
a worldwide star of Harley I mean everyone it's getting to the point now unfortunately where I meet younger
01:28:18
people they don't know him and and I just go that's just the way it is you know there's just gonna be a wave of
01:28:23
people that just don't know him anymore and it's unless they see these movies but they always play and uh but that's
01:28:29
where you get a little scared you're like oh you gotta remember that's why things like this are good just keep it out there makes people go look them up
01:28:35
if they don't know them you know it happens to anybody my son at one point a few years back he goes hey Dad
01:28:42
um who is Johnny Carson again you know so of course they just don't
01:28:50
know and it was grounding our memory banks every day of our lives and then it's just not but you know when you make a movie like Tommy Boy or really Beverly
01:28:58
Hills Ninja their Evergreen you know and they're silly and there's a there's a magic a lot of young people really like
01:29:04
to look at 90s comedies and 80s comedies you know there weren't as many rules and they were just more overtly comedic I
01:29:11
don't know how you describe you could speak better to that Brad about just the change of uh of how to make a comedy
01:29:18
today versus back then but it is a different time that's all right Dana you
01:29:23
know your comedies if you don't mind me saying were really important for that era because you know the first one you
01:29:29
hit out of the park with Mike was incredibly good and funny and Counter
01:29:34
Culture a lot because it seems like every 10 years there's the problem that comes along that sets the table right for the past 10 years is different it's
01:29:41
special and people start talking about it and you did that and I don't think Beverly Hills Ninja was exactly in that
01:29:49
category it's more traditional fish out of water we'd seen that before you know Crocodile Dundee came out where you know
01:29:56
Fish Out of Water Australian guy comes to La so uh and I feel like ninja was
01:30:02
special in that regard because you saw a different culture Through The Eyes of Chris's character and you thought it was
01:30:08
like to live in sort of a society that had hinges because that ninjas exists
01:30:13
listen it's a funny premise you get the funniest guy out there arguably at the time to do it and it's a good recipe why
01:30:22
not make that movie you know and uh and I think Nicolette I think he really liked Nicolette Sheridan and that they
01:30:28
got along right no they really got along and I remember we were talking about casting and we were you know suggesting
01:30:34
different names and I said well what about one of the most beautiful women in the world great actor Nicolette charity goes yes
01:30:41
and he was doing cartwheels yeah yeah he was so happy that's the other thing too
01:30:47
like you know he did so many of his own stunts and he got messed up a lot with
01:30:53
those stunts like I can't even imagine somebody today yeah doing a degree of stunts he voluntarily did and and one of
01:31:02
the times he butted his head and like the wood was supposed to break and he hit a stud
01:31:08
y he had this huge bump on his head and
01:31:14
makeup you know had to cover everything up and he wouldn't complain like he would just like keep going he would just
01:31:20
keep going because he was such a professional right you know Brad and Tommy Boy I I I have to break a board
01:31:26
across his head and you know so they scored and it's balsa wood but it's still a [ __ ] board across your head
01:31:33
and I did one and he's like God damn it you know after the take and so the guy
01:31:38
comes over I go score it so it's basically falling apart it should be styrofoam but it was actually very light
01:31:45
wood and they scored it so it would break and I did it again and Barley's like lately going all right I got one
01:31:51
more in me and that's for him to complain it must have just a concussion
01:31:57
protocol because I kept going I don't want to hit him and they're like just one more and as far as I can take it you see him going do not hit me here hit me
01:32:04
here and I'm like what are we doing and today they never would have let us do that it was like no way it's no way it's
01:32:10
too dangerous also would yeah just get a loud sound effect on it and just get styrofoam and have them go oh oh
01:32:20
Chris is so big physically and he could move around so that we would do this
01:32:25
done casting he would do himself in the fight with Robin's shoe his co-star and
01:32:31
he can move around and he was agile like that was the thing was so weird he was like he could have been a gymnast
01:32:37
because he does all those flips he could do this flips and he was doing these swirls with the kicks against this ninja
01:32:43
guy like and he was kicking his ass it was incredible he can he can stand like ballet stance and kick his leg really
01:32:48
high to the side I'm like oh my God yeah I remember that move yeah you know that one hey look yeah no he was an athlete we've
01:32:56
talked about that he was uh you know a heavyset athlete but underneath he was just so flexible agile and what a great
01:33:04
physical comedian just could throw himself around well ninja was the movie for that you moved you had him doing a
01:33:10
bunch of different things which played into his stuff you know that script had been around for a long time and
01:33:17
um we had it you know we got it we figured out we'd figure out the last act make it a little bit better a little bit
01:33:22
more funny and then work on him to make it better and he had really good instincts about comedy you know physical
01:33:29
comedy in particular to try this to try that he's you know he's good that way he really understood the genre I mean you
01:33:35
would know better than anybody David you know working with him on SNL and the movies but he really understood comedy
01:33:43
yeah well Dana work with them too we knew we know it uh very well and uh it's great
01:33:49
talking to guys like you we appreciate it Brad thank you very much buddy Jim Belushi uh was nice enough to uh
01:33:58
talk to us and this is this is one where it gets a
01:34:03
little deeper because of his brother John and John's heavy influence
01:34:08
on Chris Farley Jim looks good I'm doing all right Jim
01:34:14
looks great I saw you last I saw you was at the 40th in New York I believe oh
01:34:20
yeah that was great that was a great night great time [ __ ] my favorite joke
01:34:26
in that show was the immemorium remember that joke they showed love it we'd like
01:34:32
to do a section anymore of those who passed John Belushi Gilda Radder John yes and then they cut to John he'd be
01:34:39
like I'm alive here John John's comedic Persona is very
01:34:45
specific and that was a an inspired thing and of course he loved it you know yeah so but yeah he's there's only one
01:34:52
John Levitz Jim Belushi from almost feels like I get to see Jim Belushi
01:34:58
never and then we go into sort of a serious subject but you know Jim well we
01:35:04
talked a little bit before we get to Chris Farley but yeah love it will probably go The World According to Jim
01:35:12
like he would do that for 20 more years but anyway that we love John he's been
01:35:17
part of our our show celebrating and remembering the the one and only really
01:35:23
uh Chris Farley such as sweet brilliant guy and uh any
01:35:29
any comments Jim you you have a connect a connection
01:35:34
I I I love Chris I feel the special connection to him because
01:35:40
uh he had such a special connection and desire and
01:35:46
love for my brother John yeah so uh when he would see me he would
01:35:53
light up and I'd be like Chris I'm not John but you but you knew him no I know but
01:36:01
he was so great I know I know I know anyway
01:36:09
uh he kept going on about John you know my son oh I know he's beautiful he's
01:36:14
beautiful he's talented man I know I see I know you got to stop you got to stop chasing him because he's gone he's gone
01:36:21
I know
01:36:28
Chris you can't follow John you can't
01:36:33
follow his track the guy did drugs he's dead
01:36:40
you can't follow him with the drugs to find out who he was I mean I did it
01:36:47
myself right after John died I kind of increased my intake to try to get close
01:36:55
to what John must have been feeling and then one day what the [ __ ] am I doing
01:37:00
and then I just kind of cleaned up and stopped but I told him that story too and I said you've got to stop
01:37:06
you gotta [ __ ] stop Chris I know yeah he's always nodding his head
01:37:12
yeah I know I'm going to I'm going to but it was he's so beautiful he was so
01:37:18
beautiful and I just kept repeating it Chris he's dead
01:37:25
stop it you've got to stop I know I know I know
01:37:32
it wasn't a very successful yeah so I'm so obsessed with John it's like he he
01:37:38
wanted to be John yeah Jim I don't know if you knew that when he would get the Wardrobe once he figured one of his
01:37:45
pants said Belushi in him uh because they're the same size that he would wear
01:37:51
even if first it goes these are Belushi's I go I know it's Chris it is very exciting to
01:37:58
be on that show and see someone from the shows before that we all looked up to and uh and then he would wear them under
01:38:04
his regular pants during the show and just for luck for magic yeah no I
01:38:10
actually the first couple movies I did after after that I you know one movie so
01:38:15
when I took a little hat of John's and I wore it in the movie Just to kind of bring him along and another movie I wore
01:38:21
a belt of his just to kind of bring him along but uh
01:38:26
yeah you know addiction is an obsessive behavior and it just extended into
01:38:33
obsessing about John yeah true was it was it something you know
01:38:39
obviously you'd think well maybe he admired John because John was could was a pretty big guy and very physical
01:38:45
and very spontaneous and I mean was it just relating to him you think or was there something deeper just about John's
01:38:52
personality that that Chris admired you know and emulated I mean who knows why
01:38:58
we have certain Idols but clearly John was his Idol comedically yeah I don't
01:39:04
know I I don't know what it was I mean you know he died at the same age he you
01:39:10
know I I don't I don't know he just uh he got obsessed with the guy maybe it's
01:39:15
because he's Chicago they were the same size they were spontaneous yeah I think he saw himself like growing up going oh
01:39:21
there's a guy like me and he's like and he's from Chicago you know he always talk about like and he Bob his head like
01:39:27
Aykroyd and you know listen we all grew up loving uh volusion Aykroyd and uh that whole everybody you know and um and
01:39:35
when you're in it you think you're shitty and they're great and then it takes years to someone to say oh Chris
01:39:41
You're great and uh I said you're as good as Belushi toward the end I said I sound crazy but
01:39:48
as great as he was you're up there dude he's like no don't no never say that
01:39:53
yeah and uh but the truth was he was great and uh again cutting it short for
01:40:00
a crowd that could have seen a lot more and you're right there's no telling him no and if you say it too much we would
01:40:07
have problems because no no you know if he he he goes away from people that do
01:40:13
that and uh that's just normal yeah that's normal that's normal
01:40:18
addictive behavior I mean even John in the end Danny said something very
01:40:23
interesting and that was you know when John died the people that were around him Danny didn't know any of
01:40:31
those people yeah none of them so you know Alex kind
01:40:36
of create a community that will support them you know people indulge
01:40:42
them in what they want to do same lifestyle yeah yeah they separate the people that
01:40:48
are trying to help you yeah so addiction separates you know isolates
01:40:54
I just wonder emotionally talking about this uh does it it I mean it's sort of something
01:41:00
that I'm just getting in touch with now that you know John of course I knew it was your brother but I can kind of sense
01:41:05
it's frustrating and then Chris too and you tried to warn him I mean you're just sort of
01:41:11
uh someone who's dealt with this in a in US you're in your own lane in terms of emotional frequency because of this this
01:41:19
connection between Chris and your brother and I don't know it's just it's I'm so
01:41:26
outside the the world but you're inside it and it's I I kind of feel like yeah well you know it's it's something that
01:41:32
uh look addiction addiction comes into a family like a
01:41:38
snake and it kind of wraps around your legs and then your hip and your waist your chest and then your neck until it
01:41:47
suffocates you when somebody dies every family that has Addiction in it
01:41:52
there's a possibility of that strangulation and the snake got John a snake got Chris
01:41:59
the snake has got a lot of people addiction is it's it's a bigger issue
01:42:06
shows up everywhere what happened with Chris what happened with John I'm I witnessed it everywhere in my life and I
01:42:12
watch I watch it I watch families just get devastated
01:42:18
by an overdose or drunk driver or drunk driver getting killed himself
01:42:25
it's uh it's Devastation alcohol and drugs are um they decimate the
01:42:34
families it's terrible it's terrible and I always thought it's uh Judy and I used
01:42:40
to joke about it being well this is the decade of Readjustment
01:42:45
it's going to take us a decade to readjust from John's death and
01:42:51
nah it takes forever yeah it's you know you lose a brother or you lose a son
01:42:58
you know you lose a daughter it's just it's one of those devastating things in life
01:43:03
and you do learn from it you do grow from it
01:43:09
you do get inside some wisdom and the truth for me is that after John
01:43:15
died you know it's like if somebody died in your family David I
01:43:20
wouldn't know unless you told me right but with John the whole world knews
01:43:27
so no matter where I would step in life people would bring it up
01:43:32
yeah in a very loving way you know sorry really loved him really loved him but
01:43:39
another interesting thing happened is that is over these decades people have lost their brother sister
01:43:47
or parent to especially a drug overdose they would search me out and they would
01:43:55
come to me and they would talk and I'd look at them and they would check me out
01:44:02
and see if I was real and then they would break it and tell me
01:44:09
that they lost a brother and they would look to me for advice and I thought one time ago okay
01:44:17
that's one of the reasons I'm here is to help other people with their
01:44:23
suffering loss so I've been educated in so many different ways because of that loss and
01:44:30
Chris I can't imagine what he's done for you guys for his brothers is you know his
01:44:37
mothers you know you carry it with you and you just
01:44:44
you learn and try to put a positive spin on to help others and you can't compare I mean we can't
01:44:51
compare to a brother and uh and Chris was such a close friend but even then
01:44:57
you know I can think about it every day and I think that's kind of what you're going through right now you can think about it but if you really start to
01:45:03
think about it and you hang on for too long then you're going to break down because it's just too heavy I can skim
01:45:09
it I can talk to people out on the street and then but when it goes to the next level you go [ __ ] it it's too hard
01:45:15
I can't talk about it we're skimmers my friend we were Comedians and we strong
01:45:22
yeah I mean people go hey or some are people to this day go hey and then they
01:45:28
meet me and then they go by the way sorry and I go sorry about what they're like yeah Chris and I go oh yeah and
01:45:36
then just this bummer and then they go okay later and I go well thanks then I walk away thinking oh my God don't make
01:45:42
me think about that yeah I get it and and so instead of trying to get away from it I just I just engaged it and said okay this is
01:45:50
where I'm thinking this is what I'm feeling what am I supposed to learn now I keep trying to bring uh some kind of
01:45:56
value in my life in some insight some wisdom to help others but then when he comes into
01:46:03
addiction people are addicted you can't really help them
01:46:08
there's nothing you can do except for be the reality principle with them and say hey
01:46:14
you know you're addicted you're an addict you're destroying yourself you're destroying your family
01:46:20
and man I hope he's stopping and then you got to walk away
01:46:26
yeah the addict has to want to stop and that's that's the linchpin you can't
01:46:31
the dumbest question is why didn't you stop them it's just so um naive for people to say that yeah you
01:46:38
get you get mad at you get mad at the addict you know and that's what starts
01:46:43
the codependency so he kick him in you gotta give him compassion yeah see them
01:46:48
as sick um that need help yeah I heard one thing at the Betty Ford Clinic they said you
01:46:54
know if you had a relative that had cancer and you were sitting in the bed next to them in the hospital and
01:47:01
they they started swearing at you and yelling and thrashing
01:47:07
you would be mad at them would you you would understand that this disease
01:47:12
is eating them alive and you can only sit there with an open heart and compassion
01:47:19
um you know and the problem with alcoholism and drug addiction
01:47:25
you don't think of it as a disease or an illness you just get mad at them
01:47:32
which only enables them to continue on their path or it gives them an excuse not to see
01:47:38
you or hang out with you or talk to you yeah well they also their brain has been hijacked and so they tend to lie cheat
01:47:44
and steal but that's not who they really are uh it becomes primal the desire you
01:47:52
know like water and air um and so it's it's turns into number one
01:47:58
and then everything else who cares yeah uh completely all-encompassing yeah it's
01:48:04
such an interesting Lane you've been in John Jim it's just uh this has been a
01:48:10
very unique part of our of our uh honoring Chris and remembering Chris well I remember on the very very funny
01:48:16
man he was one of the funniest guys in the world old man he used to make me pee in my pants that's what I was gonna
01:48:22
that's exactly what I wanted to ask you yesterday seeing him move around like that and his
01:48:29
comic moves and his rhythms his commitment all of it was I mean I I've
01:48:34
literally let go of urine peed in my pants with
01:48:40
two people in my life John Kennedy
01:48:46
I love John Candy oh Jesus I gotta go to the I gotta
01:48:53
change my pants yeah yeah
01:48:58
well Jim thanks man thanks thanks for digging deep and just even talking about
01:49:03
this stuff it's hard it's hard for all of us it's harder for you and um yeah
01:49:09
it's been 40 years since John died I don't mind talking about it I
01:49:15
I learned a lot it's it's good to pass on to talk about it it's not so hard Chris
01:49:22
Chris is 25 that's crazy 25 years it's like you know
01:49:27
I've had two children grow up and go to college since they've passed you know all right see you Jim take care buddy we
01:49:34
really appreciate it so nice to see you and all my love to the spirit of Chris
01:49:40
and maybe floating up there having a good time right now
01:49:48
Conan who's such a great friend of both of ours um is is another different flavor here
01:49:53
because we're sort of all over the map with highs and lows and uh thoughts and remembrances
01:50:01
I might move into one of Adam's nine houses that he bought the block you know because I go by that house back I used
01:50:09
to run a lot and I would run by his house and he keeps swallowing more and more property I love it you know and so I'm
01:50:17
just thinking if I was an 85 year old person who lived contiguous to his
01:50:23
property line I'd be so terrified that my time is up locker and shows up and
01:50:29
says hey it's time yeah because he goes he goes my daughter over there once and
01:50:34
he goes all right why don't you guys all go over to the other kitchen and at the other house and they all went over there
01:50:39
and made cookies and stuff it's a full house in Palestine yeah yeah this is what we do at dinner okay we'll
01:50:46
start we'll say Okay Conan is uh one of uh was pretty tight with Chris
01:50:52
um we did the show with Chris for many years showed Chris around we here yeah
01:50:57
the tour guide for Chris Farley the first day I have a very clear one of my
01:51:03
clearest memories uh was I was working at SNL as a writer
01:51:09
and you know that Lauren has that office um he has his office on the uh ninth
01:51:16
floor yes and you know everyone knows that the writers not everyone knows but people should know that the writers and
01:51:22
Lauren um the early part of the week all happens on the 17th floor and then uh
01:51:28
after read through everything moves down to uh Studio 8h where they're getting
01:51:34
the sketches on their feet and they're constructing the sets and Lauren has an office that's uh on the ninth floor it's
01:51:41
small but you can walk from that office it has a glass door right out into the audience so it's right there and that's
01:51:48
his command center for the second part of the week and what he does is he would have meetings with people but Lauren
01:51:55
famously um would keep people waiting you know obviously not a Paul McCartney or
01:52:01
someone like that but he would keep people waiting so I'll never forget uh I came down
01:52:08
to nine and I walked in and there's this guy sitting there and
01:52:14
Chris Farley's such a presence that you can tell this is a special person like in all the
01:52:21
best ways he's sitting there and I started screw you know having fun with him thrown together just we were just
01:52:27
riffing with each other and he had such puppy dog energy he had incredible like
01:52:34
puppy dog energy and you know he was new he had he had been at SNL I mean he had been at Second City and he had worked
01:52:41
with Odenkirk so Bob came in I think Bob gave me a heads up my friend Chris is coming but I didn't really know Chris so
01:52:49
uh we start just goofing around like kids um and we are kids and so then I said
01:52:56
I'll give you a tour you want to tour the place and he went sure sure boss sure you know he goes right into
01:53:01
character so I said come with me you know kid and I start I lead him through the studio and it's a totally [ __ ]
01:53:08
tour I'm doing the stuff that you guys would you know see that guy over there that's cameraman you're gonna like
01:53:14
cameraman and um someone would be lifting a boom and I'd say up with that boom guys let's go and he was cracking
01:53:20
up and then he was doing it too and he was playing the part he's such a good natural fun improviser of the kid from
01:53:29
the Midwest who just got off the bus and has a cardboard suitcase oh wow golly
01:53:34
gee really mister and he was doing all that and I was being a big over-the-top city slicker blowhard and I had so much
01:53:41
fun with him and then uh he was an absolute Delight you know just such a
01:53:47
delightful presence on the show um we all remember that I think that
01:53:52
Chip and Dale sketch is where things really blew up for him that that Jim Downey uh did I believe it was Jim
01:53:59
Downey and I remember early on yeah I remembered standing
01:54:04
um I'm probably 15 feet away from Patrick Swayze and Chris Farley when he
01:54:10
rips his shirt off and does that and I mean it was just an atomic bomb blast
01:54:16
in 80. I thought screams of laughter working for the weekend comes out yeah
01:54:21
yeah everybody is working and um and of course Farley doesn't just commit he
01:54:27
goes to 190 um and so that was really nice I left SNL at some point I
01:54:36
left SNL and I went to work on The Simpsons out in Los Angeles [Music]
01:54:41
um and I would see Chris on occasion here and there but I didn't see him as
01:54:46
regularly but then when I started the Late Night show Chris was great Chris
01:54:53
came down he was on the show he was fantastic he was a juggernaut and
01:54:59
then one of my things that we did is I was always been obsessed with that thing on the Three Stooges
01:55:06
where uh you know molarian curly see these women that they find really
01:55:12
attractive and you cut to and it's Mo Larry and Curly dressed as women and I always loved things it's such a stupid
01:55:18
idea that that men would be attracted to the female version of themselves which
01:55:25
is usually pretty hideous but but it's just one of those comedic premises that you have to go along with so we did a
01:55:33
bit involving pre-tips pre-tapes where Chris and I are talking in the uh at the
01:55:38
set you know talking at the desk chatting and then Chris kind of notices
01:55:43
hey look at those interns over there and I go huh and I go hello and then it's me
01:55:51
and Chris addressed as pages I guess we're pages and we're dressed as women
01:55:56
uh we're absolutely hideous um but we're doing all that kind of shtick
01:56:02
like you know and oh I think this one likes me yeah and I think that one likes me uh it
01:56:10
was just so much fun to do that old I think it must be a Vaudeville bit oh to do that with with uh with Chris was a
01:56:18
real Joy he could turn himself into a 10 year old boy in a second you know with the index
01:56:24
finger and the chin goes down and then kind of swaying back and forth but
01:56:29
um yeah he could yeah if you come at him with any bit you just start anything and he's immediately doing it he doesn't ask
01:56:36
any questions it's just bits Ahoy he's into it yeah all the time uh and loves
01:56:43
it yeah and kind of just the way a fish is meant to live in the
01:56:48
water and when you see a fish swimming through the water there's no question as to why it's in the water it's it's
01:56:54
genetically engineered to be there that was I think Chris in the world of Comedy
01:56:59
he just was supposed to be there um and that's that was his natural habitat was uh
01:57:07
uh you know inhabit you know just constantly what does the bit require the bit requires for me to be the Skipper on
01:57:13
Gilligan's Island then I'm the skipper on getting the time it requires for me to be a big over the top a little bit
01:57:19
exactly he would just walk in I'm gonna go get some coke
01:57:25
he was uh yeah constantly morphing jumping around uh whatever but if the bit required kind
01:57:34
of the way I think musicians if one's one person's playing you know open
01:57:39
chords low down the neck on guitar the other person should go up the neck to
01:57:45
complement harmonize I think that was what he had naturally was uh
01:57:50
you know if you're playing the alpha role he'll immediately you know take the
01:57:57
weak position if you are riffing around and you're acting like a nerd or a
01:58:03
weakling he'll immediately go to put himself together you know and uh just
01:58:09
kind of magically yeah I know it's just so much fun I I would like people to know
01:58:15
that however much joy he brought to people honest and now in those sketches
01:58:20
that you can watch and in his movies and his work whatever he's doing there that's making you happy you have to
01:58:26
understand that stuff was happening all the time in life that was hilarious and
01:58:34
there were no cameras I like when we walk in your office and you go well well well crappy and cruddy
01:58:40
right on time yeah yeah it's or he'd peek his head around
01:58:48
your office or my office he'd go David it's always a bit you can't sit still
01:58:54
like Chris I'm trying to write David I have a secret it's like what's this one
01:58:59
what are we doing what's going on I love it though because everybody at the show
01:59:05
which is a gift that I I kind of realized at the time but I realized more later everyone especially when I was
01:59:12
there uh was so good and or better than me that when you run into Conan you're
01:59:19
suddenly going to be better because you're with a guy that's so smart and funny and then you turn and
01:59:25
there's Dana and then there's Dennis Miller and there's Chris Rock in the hallway so whoever you're joking with or thinking of bits with
01:59:31
it's it's so beyond the level I was used to that uh it really was a gift well I
01:59:38
think to be with some it's a funny yeah I think that was true for all of us though I mean all of us uh I meant and
01:59:44
that is one of the real joys of being lucky enough to get
01:59:49
into this business is um you find yourself with you're hanging around with oh I'm
01:59:57
hanging around with a you know a Chris Farley and David Spade and Dana Carvey
02:00:02
and Kevin Nealon and you know you're and and then incredibly funny writers you know Smigel and Odenkirk and you know
02:00:10
Greg Daniels all these people and you're just and and so what happens is you get you get spoiled and then
02:00:17
people are so funny and so quick and then you go to you go to like uh you go
02:00:22
to a barbecue somewhere and people are working in finance and you're just not
02:00:27
having as much you realize oh I'm spoiled that's not the real world this is the real world occasionally you bump
02:00:33
into a funny person as opposed to things are jam-packed with incredibly
02:00:39
funny people and funny in different ways yeah that was part of the fun like Jack Handy I could never write anything like
02:00:45
Jack Anderson well no one could and uh no it's just such a everyone's got such an interesting angle I go to that read
02:00:51
through table and just go what am I doing here it just took first it took a year just to go this is how you write a
02:00:57
sketch forget about it getting on let me just figure out how this is working here it's so
02:01:03
complicated but well no it is uh you know it's that old rule like play tennis
02:01:08
with people who are better than you I'm I don't play tennis I I knew when I raised my kids up in Northern California
02:01:13
there was a banker very nice guy whenever we walked down the street I would do one of my things that I do I
02:01:19
just look at him and go interesting huh yeah for five years you go well what do
02:01:27
you mean uh nothing you know and then finally like five years later he walked down looked at me and said interesting huh
02:01:35
it's just a passive aggressive character that I do of starting to get it and all that stuff I think Conan you'd agree
02:01:41
that Chris you know comes off as kind of a doofus dummy in his characters but he had such a a way of understanding
02:01:49
every bit so fast what you were doing that he got them all like it wasn't like what are you doing what do you mean like
02:01:55
you would maybe think he was on top and he would laugh you can tell just people not what they say but what they laugh at
02:02:02
if they laugh at the driest weirdest jokes we'd laugh at everything and you go [ __ ] I was I you know that he catches
02:02:09
so many things and that would maybe surprise people yeah yeah I think uh well there's a real sweetness there and
02:02:16
uh a also a um he was it's it's true and I think
02:02:22
it's a really good point that you know um he was famous for being you know what
02:02:30
he would probably call Fatty you know who falls fatty fall down
02:02:35
um but he was very intelligent and uh
02:02:42
highly just Adept very quick and he saw things he understood things and I think
02:02:48
that was uh you want to make sure that people know about that too that he
02:02:54
um you know whatever struggle he had with uh I'm just fatty fall down
02:03:00
um that wasn't that wasn't true most of us and most people I talked to in comedy
02:03:06
and not just comedy but specifically comedy and I'm talking about people who are very successful have
02:03:12
um they have a problem you know you've heard of body dysmorphia where there are
02:03:19
people who are way too skinny and they're ill and they if you ask them what do they look like they'd say well
02:03:25
I'm really fat and it's an actual medical condition I think there are people that have career dysmorphia they
02:03:31
don't understand how much they bring to the table and they tend to run themselves down and they tend to say oh
02:03:39
I'm no good I I can't I'm you know I'm not nearly as good as these other people and you're looking at them thinking
02:03:44
you're fantastic you're amazing yeah after like three weeks or four weeks every host that came in would Zoom right
02:03:50
to Fargo yeah I remember when Michael Jordan hosted the show and there was a basketball hoop set up in 8h and it was
02:03:57
this him and Farley just playing two on two or playing horse and and you could
02:04:02
tell that Michael Jordan was incredibly uh fascinated by Chris Farley the energy
02:04:07
and funniness of him and the way he was making and he was good at basketball and he was a natural athlete and his charm
02:04:13
it was like I just watched that and said let Chris and Michael Jordan go at it you know that'd be a good Pay-Per-View
02:04:19
event I heard just Michael Jordan a Jason story but I remembered uh when he was
02:04:26
there that week doing a thing about the Globetrotters it was a film and I think Roberts Michael did this Robert said it
02:04:33
was fascinating because uh Michael Jordan was watching basically they just got
02:04:38
I think the premise if I have it right I may not but I think the premise was that at the beginning Harlem Globetrotters
02:04:44
were all white yeah and it's a really it's such a great
02:04:49
Robert idea um they don't want Michael Jordan right and they don't want Michael Jordan
02:04:55
because it's like it's crossing the color line for the Harlem Globetrotters which it's okay it's a it's a perfect
02:05:01
comedy idea courtesy of Robert Smigel but then um uh
02:05:07
um Robert I think mentioned to me that you know Michael Jordan was in between takes
02:05:14
he's there and the writers they lit they got writers and interns to fill out the numbers you know
02:05:21
so there's some cast members there but there's also just hey you kid because the point was they wanted them to look
02:05:27
kind of pathetic Steve corn um yeah whatever so they cracked a bunch of people and and that that
02:05:34
um that Jordan was watching 21 year old writers and interns take terrible shots
02:05:41
and clang against the rim or miss or Complete Air balls and Jordan was
02:05:46
standing there and Robert was right next to him and Jordan was being critical of them because he's so competitive sure he's
02:05:53
happy oh yeah yeah so like a 22 year old uh who's never touched a basketball in
02:06:00
his life but is just there to fill out the back of the frame takes a shot and gets an air ball and Jordan was like God
02:06:06
damn this guy sucks what's wrong with him
02:06:11
just love that it's the thing I keep learning again and again and again in this world which is that uh
02:06:18
there's a reason people are where they are so you can
02:06:24
some people can think well you know Bruce Springsteen's he's just Bruce Springsteen so that's why he's
02:06:30
Bruce Springsteen and you realize what is it that got him there and then every now and then when I've had the pleasure
02:06:37
of talking to him or interviewing him or spending any time with him at all in any capacity
02:06:42
um he's like yeah I think if I'd I think if I tried a little harder I could do
02:06:47
this new thing with my voice and I'm going to really try and do that and like you're what are you talking about it's the rest of us you're on the you're on
02:06:54
the top of the highest mountain in the world but he's thinking yeah I can do a little better yeah yeah
02:07:02
oh yeah I think I could just do this thing a little better and I think uh my you know Michael Jordan is you know
02:07:08
people say if you play like dominoes with him or cards or anything he will try to kill you and if he and if he
02:07:17
loses he's really pissed so um yeah yeah still driving that's not
02:07:22
gonna yeah and whatever and it's the thing that got you there doesn't go away so whatever you had when you were
02:07:29
14 that turned you into that person doesn't suddenly leave once you've
02:07:34
achieved success I think it's like the the doctor you know your leg is over the table and he
02:07:41
does a little hammer and it's like a reflex so if I do a corporate date I'm not thinking about the money I want them
02:07:48
to say no one's ever been as funny as you even though it's insane they don't
02:07:53
even care but it's just a reflex you know it's like not even no it's it's uh
02:07:58
it is funny how um people think when you're out in front of people
02:08:05
you're never I mean I think all of us you're not thinking in that moment this
02:08:10
is what I'm getting to do this in terms of you know any Financial reward my pay
02:08:16
is going to be when you're in front of people you just want it to go really really well and
02:08:22
anything less than that is going to bother you for a couple of days at least
02:08:28
I know it's so crazy that's what it's that's what you're thinking about and you know the fact that someone goes yeah
02:08:33
it was pretty good I'm great you know Dana was here a couple weeks ago and he he really killed
02:08:39
it you were you were not but you did fine anyway here's you know we owe you some money you you just you just want to
02:08:45
die you're going to give the money back and just go [ __ ] it just take it I don't care it's fun to care you know it's just
02:08:53
like never like no it's not it's not fun to care well it's the opposite of fun
02:09:00
compared to sin but you get you get the moments where it worked out and rather than like what does it matter I have a
02:09:06
bathtub that's made of diamonds exactly no no I I completely agree two sides of the coins Yin and the Yang you know Yin
02:09:14
and the Yang you probably you you probably use that one a lot on the podcast don't you Dana yes I'm so glad
02:09:19
that this format exists this podcast format and one of the reasons why I do find it I do find it therapeutic I do
02:09:27
find um today when I knew that I was coming in
02:09:32
to talk to you guys this is you know technically where we're
02:09:38
doing some kind of a job here and and making something it doesn't feel that way at all we're here to talk about
02:09:44
Chris and we're here to remember him and enjoy him and you know uh keep his
02:09:51
Spirit Alive which um doesn't need us to keep his Spirit Alive uh but
02:09:57
I don't know it's just it's very uh it's I always when these things are over I
02:10:02
feel like I don't need to see my therapist now for a couple of weeks you know where were you when you I know
02:10:07
we're supposed to stop right now but where were you when you heard that he died I was uh
02:10:15
I remember this exactly I'm getting ready to do our show on a
02:10:22
late night show which is on the sixth floor and down the hall from us was our uh
02:10:29
wardrobe wardrobe room and Deb Shaw was in the wardrobe room
02:10:35
and I went in there and Andy had to go in too because we had to get fitted for
02:10:42
some kind of sketch and it was in the afternoon uh before a
02:10:48
show um but close to when the show was going to be on and someone just walked in and said uh
02:10:57
Chris Farley died and I just yeah I just I was we were all
02:11:04
stunned and I remember this I said
02:11:12
someone's asked like well oh my God you know how how old is he and I just said probably 33.
02:11:20
because I knew that he had talked about how much he uh admired Belushi and wanted to emulate
02:11:27
Belushi and so I said probably 33 and then we turned on a TV and they said you know uh has died at the age of 33. so I
02:11:36
remember saying that before uh just because I knew that that was such an obsession I had been um like all of us
02:11:42
really I had uh lost regular touch with him
02:11:48
and then I saw him there was something called the Aspen Comedy Festival it doesn't exist
02:11:56
anymore but it was a big deal and they they sent a lot of us out there to be
02:12:02
part of it and I yep you guys were there and I was I was
02:12:08
um there to interview different people on stage and do panels but there was a big that there's an
02:12:14
opera house there it's a huge venue and they got you know so many great SNL people there
02:12:20
up on stage it was a big night yeah I got that and I remembered Chris was funny but a
02:12:27
little kind of like roller coaster almost coming off the tracks in a perilous way and then
02:12:34
afterwards there's a like a skating rink outside
02:12:39
you know near the Opera House and The Comedy Festival had organized some kind of party
02:12:45
and Chris was there and he did not seem well
02:12:51
and he seemed he just um I mean to me it's the uh
02:12:59
one of the saddest things is meeting him for the first time and spending all that
02:13:04
time with him and he had that puppy dog good cheer like in his eyes yeah lighting his eyes and then when I saw
02:13:10
him uh towards the end uh the kind of
02:13:17
I don't know what they'll say about anger I think he was he was angry uh and
02:13:23
angry if anyone I think suggested that maybe he needed to look after himself and
02:13:29
there was a lot of heaviness I don't mean physical heaviness but just a psychic heaviness and
02:13:36
um that's such a painful thing to see uh up close you know and and to see
02:13:42
someone like Chris go through that um I mean it's the oldest story in
02:13:49
Hollywood um but to see that Arc
02:13:54
I think was was tough and I'm sure you guys had more experience with that and you you specifically David than I did
02:14:00
but I just saw I hadn't seen him in a while and I saw him at that Aspen Comedy Festival
02:14:05
at the skating rink and was trying to you know sort of talk to him and say hi and he just seemed you know impatient
02:14:12
angry yeah um Aspen was a tough trip across the board I had the same same experience
02:14:18
same experience that you had Conan yeah yeah Aspen was just a tough trip because he got there and he just got into
02:14:24
everything and uh it was almost like downhill from there when I saw him the next day he hadn't gone to bed at all so
02:14:31
his eyes are sort of rolling back while he's talking to me and I'm like you should get some sleep and then uh
02:14:36
oh here but he's doing it for a crowd of
02:14:41
idiots you know of like people that stayed up all night with him he always would find people that would be willing
02:14:47
to party with him of course and it's yeah and it's somebody I don't you know none of us would probably gravitate to
02:14:53
and uh they're all there for the wrong reason and then um he's doing stuff and goofing around but then he slows down
02:14:59
you see him just staring into space you go oh [ __ ] you just hope he'll turn it around I think we all did he just but
02:15:06
then when you hear the news you're not shocked it's just so sad but it wasn't out of the blue really
02:15:12
uh well Cohen thank you uh for talking to us uh yeah I'm really glad that you guys are
02:15:20
um doing this you know not just you know for all things SNL but uh specifically
02:15:26
for Chris because I think uh uh it is good to remind people that
02:15:33
um as legendary as he as he was and is uh there's a person there there's a
02:15:40
person there who um brought a lot of joy to a lot of people but also had
02:15:45
uh clearly a lot of pain and uh so I just uh you know I was raised Catholic
02:15:52
I'm hoping he's in a better place you know yeah well this is the heaviest ending to any
02:15:58
podcast I've ever done I I don't know I'm kind of who are we talking about who are we talking about next
02:16:06
all right well thank you for listening and I think we're just going to end it uh with Adams
02:16:11
Chris Farley song so here it is
02:16:20
[Music] all right guys gonna do this one this is a very special song I hope you like it
02:16:27
it means a lot to us here we go [Music]
02:16:40
thank you [Music]
02:16:57
the first time I saw me was sweeter than
02:17:02
[ __ ] plaid dragon and built too tight he
02:17:09
wasn't even doing a bit car wheel around the room and slowed ass
02:17:17
with a cleaning lady he was a one-man party
02:17:22
no I'm talking about I'm talking about my friend Chris Farley
02:17:31
[Applause] on Saturday night my man would always
02:17:38
deliver whether he was the Bumblebee girl or a
02:17:44
living in a man down by the river he loved the Bears and it could dance at
02:17:53
Chippendales with Swayze when they replaced his coffee with poachers he went [ __ ] crazy the sexiest Gap girl
02:18:00
and meatloaf in the bear without him there'd be no lunch lady at Lunch Lady Land
02:18:09
my boy Chris for me [Music]
02:18:17
foreign [Music]
02:18:32
[Music]
02:18:49
foreign [Music]
02:19:27
[Music]
02:19:32
after a show we drink a quart of Jack Daniels then stick a bottle out of his ass
02:19:40
put home over his Hill that Catholic boy always showed up to morning man
02:19:46
[Music]
02:19:56
I ain't making that [ __ ] of Massachusetts Harley [Music]
02:20:04
foreign [Music]
02:20:12
Man song I said buddy how the hell's that making you so sad then he laughed
02:20:19
and said I was thinking about my dad [Music]
02:20:32
the last big hang we had was that Timmy Meadows wedding party
02:20:40
we laughed our balls off all night long all because so far
02:20:50
he came to win air we flew out to Madison to bury our Brown nothing was
02:20:59
[Music]
02:21:16
hey budding lives moved on but you still bring us so much joy
02:21:22
[Applause] make my kids laugh with your YouTube clips or Tommy Boy
02:21:30
[Applause] I see who's the funniest guy I ever knew
02:21:37
I tell them hands down without a doubt it's you you'll be singing I'm watching
02:21:43
you try to get laid but most of all I miss watching you [ __ ] with Spade you're
02:21:49
right and I ain't want it but I still wish you were here with me and we were
02:21:54
getting on a plane to go shooting [Music]
02:21:59
yeah [Music] and that's why I'm saying about I'm
02:22:07
singing about my friend Chris [Music]
02:22:13
if we making up noise maybe he'll hear us
02:22:19
good enough for the great foreign [Music] [Applause]
02:22:31
[Music]
02:22:38
[Applause]
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[Applause] [Music] [Applause]
