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Meet, Marry, Murder - Season 1, Episode 32 - Stephens - Full Episode

June 08, 2022 / 42:12

This episode covers the tragic story of Charlie Stevens, his marriage to Kirsten, and her eventual murder of him. Key topics include age disparity in relationships, gambling addiction, and the investigation into Charlie's death.

Charlie Stevens, a 57-year-old Vietnam veteran, left his wife of 40 years for 17-year-younger Kirsten. Friends and family were suspicious of Kirsten's intentions, believing she was after Charlie's money. After their marriage, Kirsten's gambling addiction led to financial troubles, straining their relationship.

As their financial situation worsened, Kirsten discovered Charlie's life insurance policy, which motivated her to consider murder. On March 7, 2014, Charlie was found shot in their home, and Kirsten claimed it was a robbery gone wrong.

Detective Chris Burus and his team investigated, uncovering evidence that pointed to Kirsten's guilt, including a .22 caliber rifle hidden in their home. Kirsten's alibi fell apart as surveillance footage and phone records contradicted her statements.

Ultimately, Kirsten was arrested and charged with first-degree murder. During the trial, she claimed self-defense, but the jury found her guilty, sentencing her to life in prison without parole.

TL;DR

Kirsten Stevens murdered her husband Charlie for financial gain after gambling away his savings, leading to her conviction for first-degree murder.

Episode

42:12
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a 40-year marriage broken up when a rich
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man's head is turned by a younger woman
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the age gap
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struck me as odd
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she was younger than him
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she probably you know came on very
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strongly sexually
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she saw dollar signs and she seduced him
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friends of charlie stevens warned him
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everybody liked charlie and they all
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felt that kirsten was using him
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using him whilst he had money
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we interviewed a casino worker who
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overheard kirsten saying that charlie
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was worth more to her dead than alive
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we don't have very many women who kill
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i think kirsten's actions were a
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response to her wanting to continue her
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lifestyle she wanted to be mrs kirsten
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stevens as long as mr stevens could keep
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her in the manner to which she would
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become accustomed
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charlie stevens was almost the
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definition of a straight-up guy
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charlie had children with his wife
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and they had been married
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for quite some time
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and then you have this relationship
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his character is just
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the type that
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you know he was the type of guy to stay
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married forever he was the type of guy
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to
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work a job no matter what to provide for
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his family
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he was the type of guy to stay at a job
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for or a career for 40 years because
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that's the type of person that he was
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um he was a
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a vietnam veteran
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and just seemed to have a really good
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nice stable comfortable life
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then along came kirsten
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a woman with a plan
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they had met at um their place of work
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detective chris burus of the
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independence missouri police department
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he was in the pest control industry
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she's the new girl she's 17 years
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younger
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and kind of flirtatious
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and she thinks charlie's a catch so she
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really flirts and she really works it
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although kirsten had to work really hard
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to turn charles's head
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she did eventually
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i think kirsten represented excitement
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to him maybe a second chance at life
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maybe an adventure i think the fact that
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kirsten had this very rambunctious
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personality and was youthful
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and gave him all the attention the world
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made him feel good about himself and i
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think she knew exactly what he was
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looking for
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the straight-up father the doting
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grandfather still felt he had some life
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in him
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she gets charlie's attention and pretty
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soon the two of them are having an
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affair
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this affair um
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i guess you would say blossomed into a
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full-blown relationship
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before long it gets more and more
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serious
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and charlie decides to leave his wife of
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40 years and in 2005
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charlie marries kirsten
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57 year old charlie stevens had left
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sandy his wife of 40 years to make a new
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life with his younger co-worker his
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heartbroken sons brian and mike would
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one day tell police that they were
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deeply suspicious of kirsten's motives
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i don't believe that charlie's family
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liked kirsten probably because of how
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the relationship started
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it was after he married kirsten that he
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became estranged from the family and
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didn't have a lot of contact with him
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the the family all believed that she was
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kind of a parasite
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that she had married him for his money
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he saved his money and
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really um put together some some nice
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savings
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i can imagine charles's family must have
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thought whoa
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who is this woman that's come into his
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life that's taken him away from his his
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marriage
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while kirsten had charmed charlie his
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friends and family doubted that the
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woman he had married was a good person
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with good intentions it was not just the
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fact that she appeared to be after
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charlie's money
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i don't think that they liked her
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because of the way she treated people
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kristin's very manipulative if she
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didn't get what she wanted from you
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she would write you off you would be
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dead to her
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to look at kirsten stevens
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um her photograph says a lot she either
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had a very rough life or she's got a
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very interesting story to tell about
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where she came from it just she exudes
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something's up she just she has this
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image uh you know i mean she's almost
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got a perma scowl on her face
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um
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she just looks hardened she looks like
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she's had a rough life
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motivation perhaps to take what she
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could from wherever she could get it
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i think kirsten has always been very
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goal oriented
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and when she saw this man that she could
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probably take advantage of and lure
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even though he was already in a marriage
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i don't think it mattered to her
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forensic psychologist dr judy ho
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suspects that kirsten was always
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motivated by her husband's new money
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she saw dollar signs and she seduced him
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if charlie stevens had the same
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suspicions it didn't put him off in 2005
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the newlyweds made a home together on
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the outskirts of independence
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so the city of independence is
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approximately 120 000 uh population and
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we neighbor uh kansas city the area
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where charles and kirsten had lived was
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on the east part of town
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it would be considered a small town area
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uh the neighbors knew them some
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it's a pretty quiet town for neighboring
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uh to such a major city like kansas city
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kirsten and charlie's home was a wooden
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clad single story house on the sparsely
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populated tree-lined south jones road
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it's not uncommon to have the more
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violent crime on the western side of the
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city the eastern side you start to get
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more uh rural countryside and you just
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don't see those things
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after 40 years of responsibility and
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hard craft charlie was ready to enjoy
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the good life
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he's about ready to retire he's got a
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lot of money in the bank
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um he set himself up really well
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when he retired
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he had a
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decent sized pension kirsten was happy
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to enjoy the fruits of charlie's labor
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too
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she had a taste for the nightlife
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she gambled a lot uh her and charlie
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went to the boats uh and gambled quite a
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bit
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he doesn't gamble with her but he says
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that he likes to watch her gamble i can
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imagine she's probably very outgoing
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when she's in her element especially if
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she's on a winning streak
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it was all new and exciting for charlie
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who in his former life was more likely
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to go hunting or fishing than spin the
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roulette wheel but he soon discovered
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that his new wife liked more than a
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small wager
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she was a heavy gambler over time it
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becomes really clear
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that kirsten's hobby isn't just a hobby
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it's it's a compulsion
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she has a serious gambling problem
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gambling addiction is a diagnosable
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clinical condition in the dsm-5 and
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it's a really serious condition
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the dsm-5 is the standard classification
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of mental disorders used in the united
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states
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the individual has the same exact types
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of addictive mechanisms as they might
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when it's a substance abuse where they
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basically will do anything to get to
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their substance or process of choice
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at the expense of other things in their
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life at the expense of relationships
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other important life domains
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if charlie was unaware of kirsten's
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problem before their marriage
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he soon realized its extent afterwards
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and she spent all her time at the casino
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spending all of her new husbands money
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and maybe in the beginning it was
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actually exciting for him and he would
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go with her he didn't gamble but he
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would watch her but it was kind of this
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new world that he'd never been a part of
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and perhaps in the beginning it was even
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kind of fun for him but i think pretty
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soon he saw the depths of how bad it
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really got for kirsten
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he's
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saved all this money and she's burned
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through it at these casinos
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i think in some ways he understood
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especially because of their big age
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difference that kirsten was probably
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with him at least partly for his money i
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think there was probably a part of him
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that was afraid what would happen if he
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cut her off maybe she would leave maybe
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she would stop loving on him
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was charlie stevens keeping tabs on
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exactly how much his vivacious new wife
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was spending
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the riverboat casinos certainly were
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the casinos here keep records
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every win every loss every roll of the
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dice that kirsten had made laid out in
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stark black and white
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we were able to go back through casino
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records and from the period of 2006 to
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2013 there was about a million dollars
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that was spent at the casinos
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this was essentially charlie savings
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charlie's loved ones will forever wonder
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why he didn't simply refuse to hand over
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more money
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she basically put up with him as long as
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he was going to be her money bag
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i think
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kirsten's plan was to just carry on
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gambling her husband probably believed
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that
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if he continued to give her everything
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that she wanted then their relationship
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would get better kirsten had won big by
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marrying a man who could finance her
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every risky whim but when somebody has
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an addiction it's never enough and she
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just needed more and more over time she
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would have probably thought that the
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money would have just continued to flow
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but charlie's nest egg was all but gone
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charlie and kirsten had met
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married and planned to live out their
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years in comfort would their marriage
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survive when that dream crumbled
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eight years into their marriage kirsten
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and charlie were miserable now kirsten
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had gambled away most of his money
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charlie had taken on part-time work to
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help make ends meet as the money dried
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up he had to come out of retirement take
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a job at uh hardware store but money is
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still pretty tight and now the marriage
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is suffering as well
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neighbors uh frequently heard arguing
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coming from the house
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charlie's not happy kirsten's not happy
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carolyn canville is an emmy
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award-winning journalist with a special
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interest in crime and investigation
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they're behind on their taxes and now
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they have no choice they have to put up
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their house for sale in november of
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2013.
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cash reserves very soon no home
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charlie's usefulness to kirsten was
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running out
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financial problems are so difficult for
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any couple to contend with even couples
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who seem very happy in the first place
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because it is a practical issue that
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affects how you live your life every
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single day and for kirsten it certainly
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got in the way of her being able to
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gamble the way that she wanted and have
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fun the way that she wanted so i can
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imagine a lot of conflict over that a
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lot of fights over it perhaps her even
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freezing him out until he was able to
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give her more money
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as the money had dwindled so did
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kirsten's commitment to her marriage
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there's no money left he doesn't have
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anything
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so she sets her sights on someone new we
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found out that she had had other lovers
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during her marriage was charlie
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their home on south jones road on the
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brink of being sold kirsten started
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packing up their belongings but as she
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did she made a discovery that changed
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everything
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while they were moving kirsten came
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across the life insurance policy where
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she was found to be the beneficiary and
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this kind of got her motivated
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you know here's a solution criminologist
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brian frederick believes that kirsten
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stevens shows all of the hallmarks of
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having a severe personality disorder
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female psychopaths are actually more
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interested in money and finances and
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funding their lifestyle when kirsten
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stevens found charlie's life insurance
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policy the path out of her financial
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troubles suddenly seemed clear he would
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need to die for her to collect on that
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life insurance policy he's named her as
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the beneficiary bless him he's got to go
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people often think that psychopaths are
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clever and cunning this is not the case
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with with kirsten we believe that this
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is what really pushed her to the point
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where charlie was worth more to her you
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know dead than a lot
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kirsten may have made a plan but could
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she execute it if she was to do so she
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would have to learn to do something she
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had so far found tough
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being discreet
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we interviewed a casino worker who
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overheard kirsten saying that charlie
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was worth more to her dead than alive
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none of the people she said this to
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really took it too serious and after
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the events took place people thought oh
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yeah these were red flags
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at this point
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the the only way for her to get more
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money to fund her lifestyle
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is if he dies
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well she's not going to ask him to die
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she has to do it herself
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written off by those who heard her as
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the brash words of a frustrated wife was
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she really at the beginning of a plot to
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kill charlie stevens
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being forced out of their home became a
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turning point
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on the 7th of march 2014 they're just
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about to hand over the keys to their
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house around 8 o'clock in the morning
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kirsten gets the call from the buyer
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he wants to come and take a look at the
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place
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so the new owner of the house knocked on
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the door that morning introduced himself
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said hey i own the house
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as she's giving a tour of the house to
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the new owner he looks into the master
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bedroom and sees a man lying in bed and
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she describes him as
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that being her father so they don't go
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in that room i think she was just trying
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to
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identify him as an uninvolved party with
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the house
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it was not kirsten's father but her
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husband charlie
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we're actually believed that he was
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still alive at that time but actually
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asleep in the bed because it was fairly
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early in the morning when this man came
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to look at the house
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later that day kirsten went out for a
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while when she returned a dramatic scene
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unfolded at 816 south jones road about a
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little after seven that evening
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kirsten returns home moments later she
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stumbled out onto the street kirsten was
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hysterically screaming they killed him
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and she seemed to be inconsolable
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kirsten goes running to the neighbors
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help me help me the phone call that came
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in to our 911 operator was a call that
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described a home invasion and that the
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one of the residents was possibly
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deceased inside
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within minutes first responders were on
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the scene
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meanwhile kirsten is just in hysterics
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and you know the neighbors are all
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around her and she's saying oh my god oh
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my god you know she says i was gone all
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day and i came home and and he's dead
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i was sent to the scene after the
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initial patrol officers responded taking
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the lead on a murder investigation was a
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relatively new experience for detective
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chris burus
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obviously any type of death homicide is
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tragic
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however i was
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looking forward to
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digging in deep
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and finding out what was going on
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so it was dark
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when we got there
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um
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this this scene had been
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roped off with crime scene tape
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we had officers doing scene security
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inside the home a grizzly spectacle
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awaited
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that charlie was lying in bed he was
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covered up and it and it looks like he
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was shot when he was sleeping
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and he still actually still holding on
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to his sheets
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he was shot in the chin
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in the chest and the abdomen there were
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five shots that were fired in the room
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two of them went into the wall and the
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other three went into charlie
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65 year old husband father and
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grandfather charlie stevens lay dead in
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his bed
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former homicide detective rod demery
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knows the subtle clues that burus and
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his team would have been looking for
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they would look for
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signs of a struggle maybe there was a
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fight something knocked over
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they looked for bruises or defensive
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wounds to see if there was some sort of
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struggle or was this a complete surprise
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ambush there were no defensive wounds it
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looked as though charlie had been shot
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as he lay sleeping
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this struck investigators as surprising
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mrs stevens had told the police
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that it was a robbery that what she
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believed
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i guess the first part of
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some of our suspicions were that charlie
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was lying in bed he was covered up
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if this was a
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home invasion he posed no threat to the
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said burglar
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why
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would you kill him
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could charlie stevens really have been
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killed in a robbery gone wrong
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a few things are kind of in disarray
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maybe a lamp knocked over here and you
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know something out of place there but
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when they ask her what has been taken
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she can't really pinpoint anything one
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of the the first things you're going to
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look for is
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how someone got inside the house so from
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the moment they walk into the house
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you're going to be looking for signs of
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fourth century then they're gonna look
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for signs of fourth century into the
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bedroom
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it looks like a staged robbery
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nothing has been taken there's no sign
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of forced entry uh the the locks on the
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doors and the outer gates are not
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disturbed police didn't really believe
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that it didn't look like a robbery
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jackson county prosecutor michael j hunt
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worked with police on the case from day
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one
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uh they investigate enough robberies to
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know what a robbery looks like and that
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didn't look like one
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so
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right from the back they're looking at
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this as as pretty suspicious
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while assessing the scene cops were also
00:19:04
trying to read kirsten stephens reaction
00:19:06
to the sudden death of her husband on
00:19:08
the phone to emergency services she had
00:19:10
been hysterical
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while there's no true way that everyone
00:19:14
grieves and grieving is different for
00:19:16
everyone it does appear that her
00:19:19
reactions in the aftermath of her
00:19:20
husband's death was a bit histrionic it
00:19:22
was a bit over the top
00:19:24
but just minutes later kirsten seemed
00:19:27
eerily calm
00:19:29
when the police first arrived that was
00:19:31
one of the first things they noticed
00:19:33
that she wasn't acting like a woman
00:19:36
who's had her husband murdered in his
00:19:38
bed she wasn't crying
00:19:41
like crazy
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she just wasn't exhibiting the emotions
00:19:45
that you would expect from somebody who
00:19:47
is in that situation
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i think it was easy for her to
00:19:51
compartmentalize her needs and to kind
00:19:53
of set aside who she really was on the
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inside to present a a front that would
00:19:58
get her what she wants from the very
00:20:00
beginning of detective burus's
00:20:01
investigation he suspected that nothing
00:20:03
about the crime was as it seemed the
00:20:06
night of uh things were not adding up
00:20:10
the police didn't really believe her
00:20:12
from the get-go
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[Music]
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late on march 7 2014 kirsten accompanied
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police to the station in downtown
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independence it would be a long night
00:20:36
treading carefully detective buress
00:20:38
probed the couple's background their
00:20:40
lifestyle and the events of the last 12
00:20:43
hours
00:20:45
it's always difficult too because when
00:20:48
you have the spouse of somebody that's
00:20:50
just been killed
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do you want to
00:20:54
accuse them of things that you're not
00:20:56
sure of yet
00:20:58
kirsten was ready with a plausible
00:21:00
answer for every question
00:21:03
she gave us
00:21:04
a
00:21:05
statement about her
00:21:07
being out a majority of the day
00:21:10
that she had been to the mall that she
00:21:12
had been to the casinos
00:21:14
everywhere but home honestly
00:21:16
she said that she came home found her
00:21:19
husband in bed bleeding and then ran
00:21:21
across the street and called 9-1-1
00:21:24
she talked about the guns that were in
00:21:26
the house they had recovered at that
00:21:28
point two shotguns and he clearly wasn't
00:21:31
shot with a shotgun
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i always got those feelings when and
00:21:35
talking to her that just something was
00:21:37
not right i couldn't necessarily put my
00:21:39
finger on it um i guess you would call
00:21:41
it a gut reaction gut instinct
00:21:44
kirsten's account was confident coherent
00:21:47
but how much of it was true when you're
00:21:49
talking to somebody you can kind of just
00:21:52
tell that they're not being forthcoming
00:21:54
with you or they have something that's
00:21:56
weighing heavily on their mind
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there were plenty of other voices that
00:22:01
night echoing detective beerus's doubts
00:22:03
about kirsten
00:22:05
we spoke with kirsten we spoke with her
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son
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charlie's stepson
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we spoke with
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her son-in-law and her daughter
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and then they started branching out
00:22:17
talking to the neighbors they started
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talking to all the acquaintances that
00:22:21
the stevens knew
00:22:23
i think it's fair to say that on
00:22:24
charlie's side of the family they they
00:22:26
had their suspicions that kirsten was
00:22:28
involved
00:22:30
in kirsten's detailed responses to cops
00:22:32
she had left out some crucial facts that
00:22:35
she and charlie were stressed constantly
00:22:38
arguing that they were facing financial
00:22:40
ruin
00:22:41
only as investigators interviewed
00:22:43
friends and family did that information
00:22:45
emerge
00:22:46
the couple's fighting a lot they're
00:22:48
screaming the neighbors can sometimes
00:22:50
hear them fighting
00:22:52
they found out that the house itself had
00:22:54
been sold
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for back taxes uh
00:22:59
the end of the year before
00:23:02
but the couple is really in dire straits
00:23:04
so of course she became my person of
00:23:07
interest at that point
00:23:09
if anyone had a motive to kill charlie
00:23:11
stevens it was his wife but at this
00:23:13
stage there were too many questions
00:23:15
unanswered
00:23:17
early on in these homicide
00:23:19
investigations we always try to keep an
00:23:20
open mind because we don't want to miss
00:23:22
anything i recall thinking that we have
00:23:25
to look at this from all angles
00:23:27
we have to look at this like a home
00:23:29
invasion we have to look at this
00:23:31
as an intimate
00:23:32
partner killing
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we have to look at all those options
00:23:37
police didn't wait long for a
00:23:38
breakthrough the very next day march 8
00:23:41
2014 charlie stevens autopsy confirmed
00:23:44
that he had been shot with a 22 caliber
00:23:47
rifle
00:23:48
shell casings found in his bedroom floor
00:23:50
from the same kind of firearm in her
00:23:53
first interview kirsten had failed to
00:23:55
tell detectives that she and charlie
00:23:57
owned just such a gun
00:24:02
there was a 22 caliber rifle that she
00:24:04
made no mention of
00:24:06
when they questioned her further uh then
00:24:09
she made mention that she had forgotten
00:24:10
about the long gun police still hadn't
00:24:12
found the long gun when they were
00:24:14
talking to her on the seventh in the
00:24:15
very early morning hours of the eighth
00:24:18
the
00:24:19
rifle
00:24:20
was the rosetta stone of this case
00:24:22
um
00:24:24
had that not been found
00:24:26
i don't think we're where we're at today
00:24:29
i think maybe potentially we have an
00:24:30
unsolved homicide
00:24:32
on the 8th of march armed with a warrant
00:24:35
officers returned to kirsten and
00:24:37
charlie's home
00:24:38
investigators go back to the scene and
00:24:40
they search further
00:24:42
and during that search they find a 22
00:24:44
caliber rifle hid beneath this jacuzzi
00:24:48
the person that found that
00:24:51
detective sergeant jason young had been
00:24:53
a former narcotics investigator and when
00:24:56
he did searches he did searches
00:24:59
in the main bathroom of the stephen's
00:25:00
home the luxury bathtub was concealing
00:25:03
what would turn out to be as good as a
00:25:05
smoking gun
00:25:07
uh he found the access panel
00:25:09
and our minds are blown they opened up
00:25:11
the panel and here is this long gun this
00:25:15
long 22 rifle
00:25:16
hidden away inside this jacuzzi tub
00:25:20
we're like what is a rifle doing in
00:25:22
there we take the rifle as evidence
00:25:25
have it tested
00:25:27
they swabbed it for dna
00:25:29
and they also did ballistic tests on it
00:25:32
detectives had a tense seven-week wait
00:25:34
for the results of those tests in the
00:25:36
meantime kirsten's alibi was being
00:25:38
checked out
00:25:40
she gave a detailed explanation of where
00:25:42
she had been that day and where she had
00:25:44
gone she'd gone to the mall that day
00:25:48
she had gone to the casinos that
00:25:49
required
00:25:50
you know the review of video
00:25:52
surveillance
00:25:54
tapes
00:25:55
review of records
00:25:57
review of cell phone records
00:25:59
her phone did not you know give them the
00:26:02
gps coordinates of where she said she
00:26:05
was she said she was at a sears door the
00:26:07
video at the sears store was collected
00:26:09
they watched every minute of that and
00:26:11
she was never on it she said she went to
00:26:14
a
00:26:15
a casino and as we all know casinos have
00:26:18
very good video
00:26:19
they didn't have her on it
00:26:21
she was a well-known gambler there
00:26:24
her card was not used at this casino
00:26:27
those were things that she didn't count
00:26:28
on us doing
00:26:31
they were able to with gps tracking of
00:26:34
her phone
00:26:35
and video
00:26:37
they could prove that she was nowhere
00:26:38
near where she said she was
00:26:41
what investigators did discover when
00:26:43
they visited those casinos was how much
00:26:45
money kirsten had blown on gambling
00:26:47
during the course of her marriage to
00:26:49
charlie
00:26:50
it's very unusual you're talking in
00:26:52
excess of a hundred thousand dollars a
00:26:54
year spent at the casinos through that
00:26:56
time period
00:26:57
she had a gambling problem and she had
00:27:00
essentially had gambled all of charlie's
00:27:02
money away
00:27:03
step by step investigators were building
00:27:06
a picture of a desperate woman addicted
00:27:08
to gambling with a husband who no longer
00:27:10
had the cash to feed her habit a husband
00:27:13
who was also no longer of any use to her
00:27:16
i think kirsten's primary motivation as
00:27:19
it had been from day one
00:27:21
was financial and i don't really think
00:27:23
she saw him as a person in fact she had
00:27:25
been heard saying that he was worth more
00:27:28
to her dead than alive
00:27:31
it was apparent that she was with
00:27:33
charlie
00:27:34
for only one thing and that was his
00:27:36
money
00:27:38
it was a theory
00:27:41
but could the evidence be found to prove
00:27:42
it
00:27:44
part of the investigation we conducted
00:27:47
searches of the computers in the home
00:27:49
on kirsten's ipad investigators find
00:27:52
some interesting searches they find that
00:27:55
she has searched for
00:27:57
how to kill your spouse
00:28:00
huge red flags obviously
00:28:03
there were searches for
00:28:05
how to cut break lines
00:28:08
how to stay in a sexless marriage
00:28:12
and she's pulled up kelly blue book
00:28:15
values and has listed in there
00:28:19
the two vehicles that charlie and she
00:28:22
own
00:28:24
clever individuals would probably delete
00:28:27
their browsing histories she didn't her
00:28:29
skills at planning were very
00:28:31
underdeveloped if this were a motion
00:28:33
picture we'd be why did you just do that
00:28:36
you know but this is the person that
00:28:38
kirsten stevens is
00:28:40
now police have collected quite a bit of
00:28:43
evidence all of it pointing to kirsten
00:28:47
a month later they call her in for
00:28:49
questioning again
00:28:50
presented with all of this kirsten
00:28:52
stevens continued to deny having
00:28:54
anything to do with her husband's death
00:28:57
she insisted that he had died in a
00:28:59
botched robbery
00:29:02
she gives some more statements and they
00:29:05
contradict her earlier statements so
00:29:07
clearly the case is building against her
00:29:11
i remember talking with the prosecutor
00:29:13
several times i'm like when are we going
00:29:16
to
00:29:17
charge her this is what you would call a
00:29:19
circumstantial case
00:29:21
there was a lot of police work that had
00:29:23
to be done before we believed we had
00:29:25
enough to charge her with uh charlie's
00:29:26
murder
00:29:28
i would say that
00:29:30
when you take a case to a jury you have
00:29:33
to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt to
00:29:35
12 jurors in that room
00:29:37
i think
00:29:38
in any case
00:29:40
the discovery of evidence is is key but
00:29:43
in in this case it was
00:29:46
ultra important
00:29:48
detectives got one step closer to
00:29:50
proving their case in may 2014 when
00:29:53
results arrived from the forensic
00:29:55
ballistics lab about the 22-caliber gun
00:29:58
found hidden in kirsten's bathroom
00:30:01
the ballistic test came back first
00:30:03
saying that this in fact was the murder
00:30:05
weapon the shell casings that were
00:30:07
recovered in charlie's bedroom were
00:30:09
fired from the 22 long rifle
00:30:11
the bullets that had killed charlie
00:30:13
stevens were fired from the 22 caliber
00:30:16
rifle
00:30:17
it was a remarkable breakthrough
00:30:19
followed by another weight this time for
00:30:22
the kansas city police crime lab which
00:30:24
was processing the swab taken from the
00:30:26
rifle
00:30:28
it wasn't until later
00:30:30
that the dna came back the dna came back
00:30:32
to christian stevens
00:30:35
kirsten's dna
00:30:37
and there is no other dna on that only
00:30:40
kerstins
00:30:43
so the circle is narrowing here she
00:30:46
thought she was clever and that's why
00:30:47
she left it under the jacuzzi tub behind
00:30:50
an access panel
00:30:51
thinking that we would come to the scene
00:30:54
do our investigation and be done with it
00:30:57
and say oh it's a home invasion we don't
00:30:59
have any suspects we'll go about our
00:31:01
merit wait but that's not how we do
00:31:02
things
00:31:03
you know that that was in june when the
00:31:05
dna results came back the balance was
00:31:08
tipping from circumstantial evidence to
00:31:10
hard proof
00:31:12
all the signs were pointing to the fact
00:31:13
that kirsten stevens had killed her
00:31:15
husband but kirsten stevens was not
00:31:18
prepared to give up the fight just yet
00:31:21
she had actually kept in contact with
00:31:24
the police
00:31:25
she even called in at one point trying
00:31:28
to give them another suspect
00:31:41
in june 2014 police and prosecutors
00:31:43
decided it was time to bring charges in
00:31:45
the death of charlie stevens
00:31:47
we had the evidence from the gun we had
00:31:49
the dna on the gun we believe we had the
00:31:52
motive uh for her crime we believe we
00:31:55
had enough uh there was a arrest warrant
00:31:58
that was issued for her kirsten made a
00:32:00
last-ditch attempt to stay out of jail
00:32:03
once the police started coming up to the
00:32:05
house
00:32:06
to actually arrest her she took off
00:32:07
running
00:32:09
at the time she was out at her
00:32:11
daughter's house
00:32:13
and the police went out to that
00:32:15
residence
00:32:16
they sat up on it
00:32:17
kind of half believing that she might
00:32:19
run and in fact she did she didn't get
00:32:21
very far
00:32:22
they tricked her down and took her into
00:32:24
custody
00:32:25
kirsten stevens had tried everything to
00:32:28
evade justice
00:32:29
lies deception even escape was justice
00:32:33
finally about to catch up with her
00:32:35
on the 6th of june
00:32:37
now we're talking three months after
00:32:39
charlie was
00:32:40
murdered kirsten is arrested and charged
00:32:44
with her husband's murder
00:32:46
when she was arrested on the warrant she
00:32:48
didn't talk uh we got no further
00:32:50
statements from her at that point she
00:32:52
exercised her rights and didn't speak to
00:32:54
the
00:32:54
police if mr hunt was hoping for a
00:32:57
confession at this point he was to be
00:32:59
disappointed
00:33:00
she pleads not guilty
00:33:02
she knows the evidence is stacked
00:33:04
against her but
00:33:06
kristin's a gambler so what the heck
00:33:10
it appeared she was kind of nervous but
00:33:12
uh i don't think she was uh worried too
00:33:14
much i think she thought she could talk
00:33:16
her way out of this
00:33:17
kirsten was charged with first-degree
00:33:19
murder and armed criminal action on
00:33:22
october 1st 2016 in the dying days of a
00:33:25
hot humid kansas summer she stood up in
00:33:28
the jackson county courthouse to
00:33:29
proclaim her innocence
00:33:31
it was the prosecutor's task to prove to
00:33:33
the jury that kirsten was lying we went
00:33:36
into the case thinking that it was going
00:33:37
to be a whodunit that we were going to
00:33:39
have to prove our case as a
00:33:40
circumstantial case whenever you close a
00:33:42
case like this and it's charged and
00:33:44
you're waiting for your day in court you
00:33:46
always have questions about yourself as
00:33:48
an investigator did i do this did i not
00:33:50
do this should i have done this better
00:33:53
you know we didn't have a confession we
00:33:55
had a gun we had a lot of good
00:33:56
circumstantial evidence
00:33:58
but
00:33:59
it was not a case that you would say
00:34:01
this is a slam dunk case uh
00:34:04
not to mention the fact that you've got
00:34:06
a female defendant who juries tend to
00:34:08
give the benefit of the doubt to
00:34:11
but as the trial got underway kirsten's
00:34:13
defense team dropped a bombshell she was
00:34:16
no longer claiming that her husband had
00:34:18
been the victim of a trigger-happy
00:34:19
burglar
00:34:21
it was a date that she testified on her
00:34:23
behalf in court where she admitted that
00:34:26
she shot charlie
00:34:28
yes she had shot him but she was arguing
00:34:31
now that she had to she was in fear for
00:34:34
her life
00:34:36
she got on the stand and she said it was
00:34:38
self-defense she said that you know
00:34:40
charlie had abused her had beaten her uh
00:34:44
she made the claim that the gun was
00:34:46
underneath the bed and that charlie was
00:34:48
beating her and you know she got the gun
00:34:52
and was pointing it up
00:34:54
and shooting charlie as he stood on the
00:34:56
bed over her
00:34:57
and he fell to the bed
00:34:59
suddenly prosecutor michael j hunt's job
00:35:02
had become much tougher we knew we had
00:35:05
one issue
00:35:06
that was going to be
00:35:08
proving deliberation which is cool
00:35:10
reflection upon the matter for any
00:35:11
length of time no matter how brief
00:35:14
that was what we had to do to get a jury
00:35:16
to convict her of murder in the first
00:35:18
degree
00:35:19
and that was my biggest you know worry
00:35:21
that i wasn't going to be able to
00:35:22
overcome that
00:35:24
if kirsten could persuade the jury that
00:35:26
she had acted in the heat of the moment
00:35:28
to protect herself they would clear her
00:35:30
of first degree murder but mr hunt had
00:35:33
cold hard evidence on his side and a
00:35:36
defendant nobody in the courtroom seemed
00:35:38
to find credible
00:35:40
she gave a depiction of how the crime
00:35:43
occurred that just didn't match the
00:35:45
physical evidence
00:35:46
my first thought was i was going to be
00:35:48
very nice with her and i didn't want the
00:35:50
jury to think i was beating up on her
00:35:52
because i'm about
00:35:54
a foot taller than her and you tend to
00:35:57
you know worry the juries are going to
00:35:58
think well here's this big guy beating
00:36:00
up on her
00:36:01
well that changed
00:36:03
kirsten claimed that she had shot
00:36:05
charlie as he stood over her and that
00:36:07
then he had fallen onto the bed you know
00:36:09
i put up a couple of pictures of him
00:36:11
laying in bed
00:36:12
trying to show the jury how ridiculous
00:36:15
what she said
00:36:16
it looked like he had been in bed asleep
00:36:18
when he was shot
00:36:20
the covers were up and he was clenching
00:36:22
the sheets
00:36:24
we started off very calm and i was just
00:36:26
kind of pointing out the inconsistencies
00:36:29
in her story
00:36:30
and then it just became obvious that we
00:36:32
were going to have a knock down drag out
00:36:34
you know brawl here right there in the
00:36:36
courtroom and we did
00:36:38
we were going back very hot and heavy i
00:36:40
even got i was laying down on the floor
00:36:43
with the gun holding it up showing how
00:36:45
ridiculous it was what she was saying
00:36:49
the way charlie's body was positioned
00:36:51
and the location of the gunshot wounds
00:36:53
suggested kirsten's version of events
00:36:55
was a complete fabrication
00:36:57
in fact over several months of
00:36:59
questioning by detectives she had had
00:37:01
ample opportunity to claim that her late
00:37:04
husband was abusive one of the things
00:37:06
that we do
00:37:07
in cases like this is we we ask
00:37:10
are you the victim of abuse when we key
00:37:12
in on domestic violence related issues
00:37:15
we ask those questions because i think
00:37:17
it's pertinent to the case we asked her
00:37:19
are you
00:37:21
a victim of abuse was charlie doing
00:37:23
anything to you
00:37:26
and she never took the bait um she never
00:37:29
she never once said that he was abusive
00:37:31
towards her
00:37:33
the one thing about charlie is that you
00:37:35
know everybody who spoke of him just
00:37:37
talked about him being just a nice guy
00:37:40
uh who would just do anything for you
00:37:43
you could
00:37:44
and ms stevens tried to paint him as
00:37:46
this ogre who was just
00:37:49
a horrible person to her
00:37:51
would yell at her and scream at her and
00:37:54
just
00:37:55
that was not the charlie that anybody
00:37:57
else knew
00:37:59
that was more like what kristen stevens
00:38:01
was
00:38:02
kirsten stevens struggled to convince
00:38:04
the court that she was an innocent
00:38:05
victim
00:38:06
the jury just hated her they really did
00:38:09
when she got on the stand you know she
00:38:12
made us so many mistakes
00:38:14
that it just really pretty much handed
00:38:16
the case to us kirsten's motive had
00:38:18
always been financial
00:38:20
it was apparent that she was with
00:38:22
charlie
00:38:23
for only one thing and that was his
00:38:25
money
00:38:26
and once his money was gone that was why
00:38:30
she killed him once the money started to
00:38:33
dry up she realized that the only way
00:38:35
that she could continue to make her
00:38:37
lifestyle happen was to dip in on his
00:38:39
accounts and perhaps life insurance and
00:38:41
anything else that would be an asset
00:38:43
only after his death yeah she had a lot
00:38:45
to gain
00:38:47
she believed that that was the last part
00:38:49
that she was going to be able to get
00:38:51
from charlie was his insurance after she
00:38:53
was arrested and put in jail she fought
00:38:57
hard to get that insurance money she's
00:39:00
trying to get the insurance money
00:39:01
knowing good and well that she killed
00:39:03
him
00:39:04
it is a scenario that forensic
00:39:05
psychologists like judy howe have come
00:39:07
across countless times
00:39:09
particularly when they murder their
00:39:11
loved ones female murderers
00:39:13
generally have a financial motive more
00:39:16
often than male murderers
00:39:19
i don't think she saw a person there
00:39:20
when she saw him several times i think
00:39:22
she just saw the dollar signs just like
00:39:24
she did when she first met him
00:39:26
motive established self-defense claims
00:39:29
debunked it was now down to the jury to
00:39:32
decide if they trusted kirsten stevens
00:39:35
when when the jury went out yeah we i
00:39:37
was pretty confident that we had a
00:39:38
conviction you're never sure if you've
00:39:40
got murder 1 or murder in the second
00:39:42
degree
00:39:43
the deliberation is always the tricky
00:39:45
part
00:39:46
but we felt pretty good about it
00:39:49
much better than what we did when we
00:39:50
first started the trial before she
00:39:51
testified
00:39:53
on october 5th 2016 kirsten stevens is
00:39:57
found guilty in the murder of her
00:39:59
husband
00:40:00
guilty of first-degree murder and armed
00:40:04
criminal action
00:40:07
once the jury comes back with the guilty
00:40:08
verdict on both the murder and the armed
00:40:10
criminal action uh it was a good feeling
00:40:14
and i think that was
00:40:16
the best vindication not for myself not
00:40:19
for my team
00:40:20
but for charlie and charlie's family
00:40:25
she was sentenced to life in prison
00:40:26
without the possibility of parole
00:40:28
life without parole for murder plus 50
00:40:31
years for armed criminal action
00:40:34
with the murder in the first degree
00:40:35
there's only one punishment and that's
00:40:37
life in prison without parole
00:40:39
but the jury at the point of sentencing
00:40:42
for the armed criminal action
00:40:44
that kind of tells us a little bit of
00:40:45
what they feel about mrs stevens it is a
00:40:48
little unusual for them to send someone
00:40:50
to 50 years that's a long time and i
00:40:53
think they were making a statement with
00:40:54
it uh i think they didn't like her you
00:40:56
know
00:40:57
it's ironic because
00:41:00
kirsten was the gambler right
00:41:03
but charlie
00:41:05
he's the one who bet it all
00:41:07
and he lost
00:41:08
he lost his stable marriage
00:41:11
he lost his savings
00:41:14
he lost his house
00:41:16
and eventually he lost his life
00:41:19
[Music]
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[Music]
00:42:11
you

Badges

This episode stands out for the following:

  • 85
    Most intense
  • 80
    Most shocking
  • 80
    Most unpredictable
  • 75
    Most heartbreaking

Episode Highlights

  • The Hidden Gun
    Detectives find a .22 caliber rifle hidden in the jacuzzi, crucial evidence in the case.
    “The rifle was the Rosetta Stone of this case.”
    @ 24m 20s
    June 08, 2022
  • Kirsten's Financial Motive
    Investigators reveal that Kirsten had a gambling problem and a motive tied to money.
    “Kirsten's primary motivation was financial.”
    @ 27m 19s
    June 08, 2022
  • The Verdict
    Kirsten Stevens is found guilty of first-degree murder and sentenced to life in prison.
    “It was a good feeling for Charlie and Charlie's family.”
    @ 40m 14s
    June 08, 2022

Episode Quotes

  • The rifle was the Rosetta Stone of this case.
    Meet, Marry, Murder - Season 1, Episode 32 - Stephens - Full Episode
  • She had a gambling problem and had gambled all of Charlie's money away.
    Meet, Marry, Murder - Season 1, Episode 32 - Stephens - Full Episode
  • Kirsten's primary motivation was financial.
    Meet, Marry, Murder - Season 1, Episode 32 - Stephens - Full Episode
  • She was worth more to me dead than alive.
    Meet, Marry, Murder - Season 1, Episode 32 - Stephens - Full Episode
  • Kirsten's motive had always been financial.
    Meet, Marry, Murder - Season 1, Episode 32 - Stephens - Full Episode
  • It was a good feeling for Charlie and Charlie's family.
    Meet, Marry, Murder - Season 1, Episode 32 - Stephens - Full Episode

Key Moments

  • Suspicion Arises22:24
  • Financial Ruin22:38
  • Evidence Emerges22:43
  • Gambling Addiction26:56
  • Desperate Measures27:06
  • Motive Established39:29
  • Guilty Verdict39:57
  • Life Sentence40:26

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