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this program is about unsolved mysteries
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whenever possible the actual family
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members and police officials have
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participated in recreating the events
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what you were about to see is not a news
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broadcast in September of 1979 19-year
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old Mickey West vanished without a trace
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exactly seven years later a note was
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found from someone who claimed to a
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witness Mickey's murder but his identity
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remains unknown
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between 1890 and 1920 thousands of
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homeless children rode orphan trains to
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new families in the Midwest today many
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want to find the brothers and sisters
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they never knew in 1967 a five year old
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boy fell into a rain swollen creek
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Nutley New Jersey two months later his
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body was found in the river three miles
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away in 1974 a New York banker bloated a
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commuter train to take him home to New
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Jersey during the train ride vanished
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two months later his body was found on
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the bank of a nearby river in 1976 a
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14-year old school girl left her home on
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Staten Island to look for a summer job
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that afternoon she disappeared two years
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later her body was found in an abandoned
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shipyard
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but links these cases together
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Miss Dorothy Allison a housewife from
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Nutley New Jersey she predicted where
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all three bodies would be found what
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happened to the victims and remarkably
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in two cases predicted when they would
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be discovered Dorothy Allison and the
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authorities with whom she has worked
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claimed she has psychic powers my
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lifetime this is the most amazing thing
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that ever happened to me to see the
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ultimate results of everything that she
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had said it's as though I turned on a TV
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station and got a picture and this is
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what I get when I get a vision of
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something or a place or a purse
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or anything it's as though you're
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turning on tuning in on a TV set Dorothy
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Allison is called almost daily by police
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detectives although she's never paid for
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her work she's been asked to help in
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hundreds of investigations in the next
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hour we'll follow Dorothy Allison on a
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Kurt murder investigation and explore
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two other unsolved mysteries but also
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tell you how our viewers help capture a
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murder suspect and his teenage
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girlfriend join me you may be able to
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help solve the mystery
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on the morning of September 11th 1979 in
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a small town of st. Joseph Missouri a
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young woman named Nikki Joe West left
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for work she was never seen again her
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friends and family suspect foul play but
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her body has never been found I think I
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know what happened to Mickey I think I
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know who did it and I think I know why
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they did it we have a suspect that we
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established the day after the
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disappearance we've talked to him
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several times we know where he lives now
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we know where he can reach him we just
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simply have no evidence against him at
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this point I believe that this person
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who's described as a number-one suspect
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I believe that he abducted her and
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within two or three hours of that time I
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believe he killed her at the time of her
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disappearance
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Mickey Joe West was 19 years old she was
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an outgoing friendly girl who worked as
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a nurse's aide at the st. Joseph's State
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Hospital she was funny she can make a
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bad situation into a good one when I had
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bad days I was at my worst end she'd
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come in and everything would be all
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right because she'd say something funny
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Mickey became involved in the bitter
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marital dispute of a friend of hers
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perhaps too involved she began to
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receive threats the last time I talked
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to Mickey on the phone she she was
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scared she was afraid for her life so
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she told me she was gonna carry a hammer
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to work with her that next morning she
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got up and left her house and was on her
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way to the bus stop and that was the
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last thing and whenever
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at this point the only case we have is a
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missing person
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we have no crime we have a missing
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person we have no body to establish a
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murder case without a body we cannot
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convict anyone of murder we have
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evidence that there were threats made to
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Miki that she was followed by this
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person she had a motive to do this it
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could have done this
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we just need the body
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for seven years no new evidence was
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found then in 1986 a delivery man at a
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Kansas City shopping mall 75 miles from
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where she disappeared found a letter it
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was addressed to the st. Joseph police
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he opened it in red I need your help I
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was with and here we cannot mention the
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person's name when he killed Mickey Joe
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West and hid the body I can kill myself
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now please help this letter was unsigned
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about a month later on October 2nd
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another note was found in the same
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moment a security guard who worked in
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the mall found this note in the hallway
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there it was obviously the same envelope
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paper obviously the same person had the
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same message on it and it too was
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delivered to the police in Overland Park
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and eventually to her apartment both of
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the notes named the man who has been and
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is now the prime suspect the author in
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these notes said that he was with the
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person who had killed her that he did
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not kill her himself that he could not
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stand this knowledge that he had and
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that he needed help
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they're both inside and so far we have
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not come up with any solid leads as to
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who the author is
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seven weeks later if three more letters
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were found this time in st. Joseph the
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town where Mickey was last seen the
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first of these was discovered in a
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shopping mall the same day another was
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found at a local truck stop van a
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janitor found another letter in the same
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st. Joseph shopping mall after the three
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notes were found in Saint Joseph we had
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a total of five notes all established to
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be even the same author all saying the
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same message naming the same suspect but
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getting us no closer than make to making
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the case or proving the case against
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this person than we were before
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we explored the possibility of notes are
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a hoax but we believe they're genuine
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because of the details that need to
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given us about the crime because of the
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way they are written because of the
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feelings that they express they just
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seem realistic when we examine these
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letters it was obvious to us that the
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person who wrote them was intimidated by
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the person who killed Mickey Joe
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these weren't letters written by a
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stranger they were written by someone
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who was personally acquainted with the
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victim there are deep-seated feelings of
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guilt not guilt because the writer was
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personally responsible for having killed
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Mickey but because he was present when
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it happened and wasn't able to stop it
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from January 13th 1988 nine years after
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Mickey's disappearance
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another letter turned up at a Kansas
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City mall theater it was addressed to
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the police and a local TV station eight
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months later a reporter for the TV
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station Thurman Mitchell received a
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letter addressed to him personally in
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this letter the author said that if
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Thurman would come alone he would chill
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him or Mickey Joe West is he said that
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he did not want the reward that he was
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not interested in the reward he said
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that he was not himself involved in the
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crime but that he needed help again
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because this latest letter was mailed to
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the station in response to this letter
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that mr. Mitchell received he did a new
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story asking this person to come forward
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and contact him person about Mickey
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Joe's death we're asking that witness
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for called
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phone number on the screen and talk to
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us and we'll pass that information an
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on-air appeal proved unsuccessful today
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the letter writer remains anonymous the
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case of Mickey Joe West is still
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unsolved the author of these notes is
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the most important witness that we could
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have in this case if he knows where she
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is if he was there and he will testify
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he is absolutely crucial I would just
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like to ask him to come forward and tell
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us what he knows or if he doesn't want
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to come forward write us a letter and
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tell us where she is in the letter or
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give us a phone call come forward in
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some way we miss Mickey and it's been
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nine years and we just want to know what
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happened to her
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last month we broadcast a story about
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Dave Davis from Pittsford Michigan a man
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accused of murdering his wife on July
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the 23rd 1980 Davis and his wife Shannon
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were horseback riding on their farm 80
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miles outside Detroit Davis claims that
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Shannon lost control of her horse fell
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and struck her head she was rushed to
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the hospital but doctors pronounced her
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dead on arrival after a few days
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Shannon's parents found out that Davis
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had taken out six large life-insurance
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policies on Shannon
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they had their daughter's body exhumed
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the results showed traces of an animal
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tranquilizer as well as two injection
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marks one on her wrists and one on her
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shoulder police found out that Davis had
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indeed had access to the animal
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tranquilizer through a deer hunting
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group just as his arrest seemed imminent
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Davis fled he had not been seen since
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October the 13th 1981 FBI and different
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ones had said don't discount the fact
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that he may already be dead but we felt
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like no he's out there someplace he's a
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he was a rugged outdoors individual he
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was a survivor
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[Music]
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we broadcast Davis's story twice within
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days of our second broadcast Dave Davis
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was captured a viewer identified him as
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a man named Davis Myer Bell is living on
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the tiny island chain of American Samoa
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2,000 miles south of Hawaii Davis alias
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Bethel was arrested three days later any
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comment on the charges against you mr.
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Davis didn't do it police say your wife
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was poisoned I didn't do it
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police learned that four years ago Davis
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had fled to American Samoa where he
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lived in this house before that he had
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lived in Florida Haiti and Alaska among
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other places
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two years ago he married a 20 year old
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Samoan woman he told her that his first
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wife had died in a tragic accident in
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American Samoa Davis obtained a job as a
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pilot for a small commercial airline he
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was apprehended on his way to work at
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the airport
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Davis was extradited to Honolulu Hawaii
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he admitted his identity and voluntarily
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agreed to return to Michigan to stand
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trial in return federal authorities
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dropped charges of unlawful flight
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around the turn of the century the
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streets of New York City were filled
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with starving immigrant children who had
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no one to care for them the city
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orphanages overflowed school classes and
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afternoon naps often took place outside
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even in the bitter cold to alleviate the
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crowded conditions the Children's Aid
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Society of New York came up with a
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unique plan they began to put orphans on
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trains bound for the south in the
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Midwest hoping they would be adopted by
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farm families along the route between
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1890 and 1929 scores of trains carried
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at least 150,000 orphans into the
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heartland of America sadly many of them
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were separated from their brothers and
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sisters whom we will never see again
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[Music]
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in 1910 two brothers named algae and
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Johnny rode on an orphan train along
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with a group of other orphans they
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headed for Arkansas hoping to be adopted
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[Music]
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when we left New York none of us knew or
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was going but the guys that took it knew
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where he's headed for Fayetteville was
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the destination but algae and Johnny's
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train arrived in Fayetteville Arkansas
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prospective parents were waiting to look
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the children over the brothers hoped
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they would be able to stay together when
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they stopped by waved if you'd accepted
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side to track did one thing I remember I
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just wondered what they was gonna do it
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me and Johnny I had hoped that we'd both
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feeding some home together people
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commits coming and look at the can make
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farmers out of the flames out in some
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people take them cause they lived them
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how do you like this howdy you're gonna
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go with me when it came time to make the
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decision
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the couple who took algae only wanted
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one child
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he took me didn't one take Johnny well
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they just forwarded hard not to crying I
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couldn't I just know they separate
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distance one Pilar Chuck Johnny in one
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touch babe
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[Music]
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finally oh it took me a long time I got
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over that but still it come to my mind
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once in a while where is he and then the
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old man and all happily algae and Johnny
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the brothers who were separated when
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they rode the Orphan Train have been
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reunited tonight we will meet two other
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orphan train riders Francis Murphy and
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Sylvia Webb Hoff who have been unable to
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find their lost siblings in 1921
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Sylvia wham Hoth was last name then was
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Volk was taken out of a New York City
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orphanage to write an orphan train to
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Nebraska her parents were dead and she
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left behind an older sibling about whom
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she knew nothing Sylvie was three years
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old and the children on her train had
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been selected sight unseen by members of
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churches in Columbus Nebraska Sylvia was
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a very small child when she rode the
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Orphan Train she was taken in a bit of a
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different manner because she was spoken
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for ahead of time on your papers there's
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a name and a number
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the number will correspond with the
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number here numbers would be sewn onto
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the children's garments with their name
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and the birth date the corresponding
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matching parent that had been found and
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located by the foundling Hospital would
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have a number corresponding to the
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number and when they got to the train
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station they would match the number and
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take the child and this was the way
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silver wim HOF was chosen
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Silvia's last name was changed to mick
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when she was adopted by the John McPhee
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they had a small farm in Lindsay
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Nebraska and Sylvia along with another
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orphan a boy was happily welcomed into
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the family when I was about 17 18 years
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old then I began to question my mother
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Mick whether I had any brothers or
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sisters and if so I wonder if we could
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ever get together after years of
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searching Sylvia located her birth
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certificate it showed that she was born
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Stephanie Volk spelled WOL k and that
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her mother Pauline vltava CH from
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Austria already had a child when Sylvia
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was born Sylvie was adopted when she was
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three years old and today is 70 she is
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desperately trying to locate her missing
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sibling even though there is no way to
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tell whether she is looking for a
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brother or a sister the day after our
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broadcast Sylvia search came to an end
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she learned that her brother 72 year old
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Joseph Polk was living in New York City
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Bouck stepdaughter had seen our
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broadcast and recognized the names on
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Sylvia's birth certificate on September
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25th Sylvia flew to New York and met her
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brother Joseph for the first time
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your sister selfies here
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i I might yell
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we hugged each other and we were just
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really thrilled and happy that we
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finally finally got together I've heard
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I had a sister I was luckily pleased
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when I saw thankful thankful to God most
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brothers and sisters grow up sharing
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their lives together
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the Priscilla and Joseph love and
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memories are just beginning the next man
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we will meet as Francis Murphy in 1928
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when he was 11 he too rode the Orphan
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Train his baby sister Margaret and his
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mother who was too poor to take care of
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him
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were both left behind when I got on the
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train I didn't really feel that I was
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being wrenched away from something I
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didn't know that much about my mother
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so that it wasn't a matter of tearing me
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away from her because I was away from
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her all the time anyway it was a big
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adventure more than anything else as a
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kid in New York you have to remember
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that we didn't know the west's and what
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we knew was from the picture shows we
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saw of cowboys and Indians and maybe
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engineers and go in that direction well
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that was the biggest thrill that a kid
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in my time could really expect
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[Music]
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Frances is excitement soon turned to
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sadness stop after stop potential
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adoptive parents would be waiting to
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pick their child from the crowd but not
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all the children found new parents
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Frances who had boarded the train in New
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York for such high hopes began to
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realize that none of the families alone
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the trains route wanted him 14 or 15
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children that were leaving and she got
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off the train with her belongings and
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they told Frances you should stay on the
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train and he would say the crowd can get
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smaller and smaller until finally he was
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the only child left on the train
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[Music]
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Francis never was a doctor he went from
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family to family as a foster child in
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[Music]
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spite of his early hardships Francis's
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life turned out well he became a high
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school teacher married and had five
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children and six grandchildren Francis
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Murphy drove the Orphan Train 60 years
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ago developed heart disease in 1987
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sadly he died soon after we filmed his
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interview in November Francis's wife and
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family have continued his search and
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they asked that we present his story
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despite the fact that he is gone they
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hope to unite the family who still loves
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Francis the family he never knew I had
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wanted so desperately to find it was
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extremely important to Francis to go
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ahead with this interview he'd been
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looking forward to it for literally
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months and just the hope that he would
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find somebody particularly his sister
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was important and know much about love
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growing up and he found out as he got
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older and had a family of his own I
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think his finding Margaret would be an
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extension of it look
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it's still very important to us that we
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finish what he tried to do Francis
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Murphy sister Martin would be about 62
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years old today she was probably born in
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either Yonkers or New York City and she
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may have been adopted
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Francis and Margaret's mother was Hilda
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Harding Murphy their grandparents were
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John and Elizabeth Harding from Nova
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Scotia Francis's father was Martin
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Murphy
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[Music]
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[Music]
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[Music]
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these are affidavits police departments
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around the country attesting to Dorothy
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Allison of psychic powers the use of
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psychics and police work is almost
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always controversial frequently they're
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inaccurate all too often they are
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charlatans but there are a few do indeed
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seem to have a special gift the
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unexplainable ability to predict details
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still locked in the future an ability
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which in itself is an unsolved mystery
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on the center third 1967 five-year-old
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michael Kerr six and his older brother
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run out to play at around 8:15 a.m. as
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he were playing Michael lost his footing
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fell into a churning river was swept
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away and drowned
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[Music]
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two hours before Michaels accident at
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5:56 a.m. Dorothy Allison woke from a
00:25:33
horrific nightmare her lucid and
00:25:35
frightening dream predicted Michaels
00:25:37
death I saw this little boy in a pipe
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his hands were like this in the dream
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they were clasped together and they were
00:25:45
very black I didn't know why they were
00:25:47
so black because he was so white I saw
00:25:50
this tremendous illumination of light
00:25:52
almost as though he had been in a it
00:25:56
seemed to me like a vacuum for weeks the
00:26:02
authorities searched the river but there
00:26:04
was no trace of Michaels body a month
00:26:08
after Michael disappeared Dorothy went
00:26:10
to the police and insisted that someone
00:26:12
listened to her story the one brief
00:26:21
newspaper article about the case did not
00:26:23
contain a picture of Michael the police
00:26:25
were startled when Dorothy accurately
00:26:27
described the clothes he was wearing he
00:26:30
had on this green snow suit underneath
00:26:34
the snow suit he had on a polo shirt
00:26:36
that the stripes and underneath had
00:26:38
another shirt with a metal pin to it and
00:26:42
also he had his shoes on the wrong feet
00:26:44
there was a possibility that this could
00:26:47
have been a hoax
00:26:48
there's always that possibility when she
00:26:53
come up with this description I became
00:26:56
overwhelmed because I knew this boy I
00:26:58
knew this family it just got me to a
00:27:01
point where I had to know more about
00:27:02
what she was dreaming maybe there was
00:27:05
something more that she couldn't
00:27:06
remember now maybe just questioning her
00:27:08
would bring more of it out but we were
00:27:10
going to work with her because she just
00:27:12
she got me she just got me when I
00:27:17
started to talk to dawn I kept telling
00:27:19
him that I saw the number 120 but
00:27:21
whatever that meant I don't know I also
00:27:24
saw the number 8 and didn't know what
00:27:26
that meant either and I kept insisting
00:27:29
that his body would be found behind a
00:27:32
school I insisted on that
00:27:39
as a search for Michael continued
00:27:42
Dorothy's clues began to mount up
00:27:44
number eight a school a parking lot
00:27:48
behind an ITT Factory lumber gold
00:27:52
lettering on a window and the number 120
00:28:00
she had mentioned a number 120 the very
00:28:04
first day that we were together and we
00:28:06
thought well maybe it's an address and
00:28:10
in the area that we were in initially
00:28:12
there was no 120 then we thought well
00:28:16
maybe would be January 20th the months
00:28:19
and a day that came and went no
00:28:23
significance whatsoever but that 120
00:28:26
kept coming up and to me especially and
00:28:28
I couldn't understand why by now they
00:28:31
were trying to lose their patience and
00:28:32
Dharmakara says my god I'm trying but I
00:28:35
don't know what you're saying
00:28:37
I said well lucky he won't be found on
00:28:39
February 7th and then our troubles will
00:28:41
be over you will know the story of
00:28:43
Michael Pharisees the day the boy was
00:28:45
found it was 1:20 in the afternoon of
00:28:48
February 7th that I was told that the
00:28:52
baby was now
00:28:58
the spot where Michaels body was found
00:29:01
coincided with several of Dorothy's
00:29:03
clues
00:29:04
Dorothy's vision of a number eight was
00:29:07
echoed by the fact that elementary
00:29:09
school PS eight stands on the riverbank
00:29:11
nearby
00:29:13
across the street is a lumber yard next
00:29:17
door is an office building with gold
00:29:19
letters on the window directly across
00:29:23
the river is a local ITT Factory at his
00:29:27
parking lot and when Michael was found
00:29:30
he was wearing exactly the same clothes
00:29:32
that Dorothy had dreamt and although his
00:29:35
galoshes are on the correct feet his
00:29:37
under shoes were indeed on the wrong
00:29:39
feet we backtracked and everything that
00:29:47
she was saying now fit into place just
00:29:50
like a puzzle you pick up a piece and
00:29:52
you toss it around until you link it and
00:29:54
show the picture it means nothing but
00:29:58
now everything seemed to fit in place
00:30:00
and we started I started to kick myself
00:30:02
for not knowing what she was talking
00:30:04
about there have been many many times
00:30:08
that I struck out completely and I
00:30:11
really wanted to find a child and got no
00:30:13
answers till today I don't know why but
00:30:17
there are several cases where I never
00:30:19
come up with anything not not even one
00:30:22
little clue that I know of Dorothy
00:30:28
Allison has lived in New Jersey all her
00:30:30
life she has four children and her
00:30:32
husband Bob is an engineer for a
00:30:34
construction company in Manhattan when
00:30:37
Dorothy was 14 she had the first
00:30:39
indication of her psychic abilities when
00:30:41
she correctly predicted the death of her
00:30:43
father since a Michael korsak's
00:30:47
investigation most of Dorothy's cases
00:30:49
have been homicides many of the victims
00:30:52
have been children I've often thought to
00:30:57
myself why does this happen to me why
00:30:59
not somebody else because it has been
00:31:02
very hard on me emotionally physically
00:31:04
it has not been a happy thing for me at
00:31:07
all times
00:31:12
on December 20th 1974 a New York banker
00:31:16
John DeMars left his Manhattan office to
00:31:19
ride the train home to New Jersey he was
00:31:23
happily married with two young children
00:31:25
habitually called his wife if he was
00:31:27
going to be even five minutes late but
00:31:30
on this day his train stopped at nothing
00:31:32
John de maras was not on board he had
00:31:35
simply vanished our first thoughts were
00:31:41
maybe he embezzled money we didn't find
00:31:43
anything wrong with the bank maybe he
00:31:46
ran away with another girl we found out
00:31:49
that that wasn't true we just couldn't
00:31:51
find this fellow so I went to see you
00:31:53
darling
00:31:53
I said Dorothy I'm looking for a male
00:31:56
adult that's been missing for more than
00:31:58
24 hours her first words were to me was
00:32:01
he's drowned well I said he fell off the
00:32:04
train he said company fourth to train in
00:32:06
the water I says now if I said you
00:32:09
received misinformation he fell off the
00:32:11
train he's in water such as whoa can you
00:32:14
give me any other clues as to as to
00:32:17
where I would find him I said I see a
00:32:19
row of tires a little Park there
00:32:22
chilling you down a hill on Miss woods I
00:32:25
see a fire engine the children play on
00:32:27
and I see this man in this water here
00:32:30
then she told me that she sees a bow and
00:32:33
arrow now where do you find a boring
00:32:36
hour I thought she was crazy two months
00:32:42
after the disappearance a father and his
00:32:45
teenage son were target shooting with a
00:32:46
bow and arrow on a bluff overlooking the
00:32:49
Passaic River one of the arrows missed
00:32:55
the target landed a few feet on the body
00:32:58
of John DeMars
00:33:02
the body was found on February 22nd
00:33:05
Dorothy had mentioned the number two to
00:33:08
two nearby was a park where rows of
00:33:12
tires had been arranged to make a sled
00:33:14
run the question remained how did John
00:33:19
de Mars a train passenger drown in the
00:33:21
Passaic River the authorities theorized
00:33:26
that DeMars dozed off on the way home
00:33:28
the Train made an unscheduled stop on
00:33:31
the Passaic River Bridge
00:33:32
the conductor opened the doors to let
00:33:35
another passenger off the back of the
00:33:36
Train John DeMars still half-asleep
00:33:40
thought he had reached his station he
00:33:42
stepped out into space and fell into the
00:33:45
river below chills go up and down your
00:33:49
spine
00:33:49
believe me you look around you look at
00:33:53
your notebook all these notes that you
00:33:55
rolled down three months ago and
00:33:57
everything that she had said was exactly
00:33:59
there everything that she had said how
00:34:03
Dorothy can do these things I don't
00:34:05
understand psychics I don't know how
00:34:07
Dorothy's mind works all I know if
00:34:09
Dorothy told me Ellen go outside and
00:34:12
cross the street I would go out first
00:34:13
the street because I don't know what
00:34:16
she's seen for me Ellen Jacobson and her
00:34:20
husband bill became involved with
00:34:22
Dorothy after their daughter disappeared
00:34:24
from home in 1976
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00:34:38
on May 15th
00:34:40
14 year-old Susan Jacobson left to
00:34:43
Staten Island home to interview for a
00:34:45
job at a local ice cream parlor when
00:34:49
Susan didn't return for dinner
00:34:51
their parents contacted the police we
00:35:00
were basically told that our daughter
00:35:02
was 14 she had a boyfriend and she ran
00:35:06
away
00:35:06
point-blank that was it and there's
00:35:11
nothing they can do because if she ran
00:35:12
away
00:35:13
they don't have manpower to go and look
00:35:16
for fourteen-year-old girls who run away
00:35:18
so we had nothing two weeks later the
00:35:28
Jacobson's asked Dorothy to help she
00:35:31
immediately went to Staten Island with
00:35:32
her husband Bob Dorothy knew nothing
00:35:36
about the case and had never met the
00:35:38
Jacobson's when Dorothy came she was so
00:35:42
down to earth it was impossible to
00:35:44
believe I had visions of Oh a gypsy
00:35:49
woman I had some visions of somebody
00:35:51
laying out a deck of cards and reading
00:35:53
cards to me or reading my hand and
00:35:56
Dorothy's first reaction when I finished
00:35:59
with before he put the coffee pot on to
00:36:04
you she immediately asked me what the
00:36:08
number - five six - would mean and I
00:36:11
said well I could turn it into February
00:36:13
5th 1962 I said that's my daughter's
00:36:17
birthday it's me how about the number
00:36:20
408 what does that mean I'm a total
00:36:23
shock I don't know what she's looking
00:36:24
for I said for a waitress maybe it's 405
00:36:26
I said my daughter Susan was born that
00:36:28
time she is what's more I said excuse me
00:36:32
she says what's more me I said what do
00:36:34
you mean March is ma or I want to see
00:36:36
and they are
00:36:37
I said please let's go to the police
00:36:40
department because the vision that I got
00:36:42
right and the Mayor was that I do what
00:36:44
happens trying to buy the boyfriend and
00:36:46
that she
00:36:47
at this place with this big MA orbit and
00:36:49
red letters so I went to the police
00:36:51
department and tried to explain but to
00:36:53
no avail the authorities were unwilling
00:36:58
to work with a psychic so bill Jacobson
00:37:01
decided to investigate the many clues
00:37:03
that Dorothy had come up with on his own
00:37:06
it was an abandoned car
00:37:09
the letters ma are smell of oil two sets
00:37:15
of dual church steeples dual smokestacks
00:37:18
swamps marshes we searched the vast
00:37:24
amount of Staten Island and the
00:37:27
confusion of it is that you
00:37:29
you don't know distance in time and you
00:37:32
can't tell past present and future
00:37:38
eventually we got into a place that is
00:37:40
called down back in this area is an
00:37:44
abandoned shipyard that was apparently
00:37:48
active in World War one and we found a
00:37:51
rock and on this rock were painted and
00:37:54
red letters the letters M
00:37:59
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00:38:06
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00:38:11
all the clues that she had given me
00:38:14
helped me by way of getting me to the
00:38:18
area of ground where Susan was
00:38:21
eventually found when I saw the eMAR I
00:38:27
was astounded and I felt it had to be
00:38:32
the area have to call the Aarthi have to
00:38:35
get her over here have to show her what
00:38:37
I found when Dorothy saw the mir in Iraq
00:38:40
she said this is it this is where your
00:38:43
daughter is now we need the cops
00:38:48
we need the dogs we need the bloodhounds
00:38:51
we need to drag through the swamps and
00:38:53
marshes but we had none of that
00:38:57
we searched as much as we could by
00:38:59
ourselves we felt that we had done a
00:39:02
good search unfortunately we never found
00:39:05
my daughter 22 months later three boys
00:39:18
rot muskrat hunting in the precise area
00:39:20
were builded searched just 100 yards
00:39:23
from the ma our letters they discovered
00:39:26
the remains of Susan Jacobsen concealed
00:39:29
in two oil drums from the place where
00:39:34
Susan was found you could see almost all
00:39:37
at the same time
00:39:38
Dule church steeples smokestacks the
00:39:41
abandoned car the rock with the letters
00:39:44
M AR Susan was found in an oil drum
00:39:48
which is a smell of oil and Dorothy had
00:39:52
also said that susan was in water but
00:39:55
she didn't drown the autopsy revealed
00:39:59
that Susan had been strangled and her
00:40:01
body dumped at the bottom of the water
00:40:03
filled hole dempsey Hawkins Susan's
00:40:08
boyfriend was arrested tried and
00:40:10
convicted of her murder Dorothy knew
00:40:16
my daughter was murdered she admitted to
00:40:19
us maybe nine months after my daughter's
00:40:21
disappearance to the fact that who did
00:40:23
the murder she named the person to
00:40:25
listen and everything that she said she
00:40:29
said how she was murdered and where and
00:40:32
what Dorothy said came true
00:40:36
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00:40:39
in the three cases we have seen
00:40:41
Dorothy's success has been astonishing
00:40:43
keep in mind that over the years Dorothy
00:40:46
has worked on hundreds of investigations
00:40:47
and in many she was unable to come up
00:40:49
with information that helped the
00:40:50
authorities in a moment we'll follow
00:40:53
Dorothy on a current murder
00:40:54
investigation to see exactly what she
00:40:57
does and how she does it last March we
00:41:02
looked for a case where we could examine
00:41:03
Dorothy Allison psychic gifts we found a
00:41:07
homicide in Hagerstown Maryland with a
00:41:08
police were at a dead end
00:41:10
they agreed we could ask Dorothy to
00:41:12
assist on the case and film the
00:41:13
investigation as it happened as you'll
00:41:16
see Dorothy came up with the name of a
00:41:18
possible suspect but for legal reasons
00:41:21
we have chosen to disguise this name we
00:41:24
gave Dorothy absolutely no information
00:41:26
on the case she didn't know the name of
00:41:27
the victim or the state what happened
00:41:29
she didn't even know it was a murder
00:41:32
case Dorothy was contacted by sergeant
00:41:38
Keith waton sheet of the Maryland State
00:41:41
Police who was in charge of the ongoing
00:41:43
investigation yes fine thank you
00:41:48
knowing absolutely nothing about the
00:41:50
case Dorothy drew up a list of clues the
00:41:53
night before detective what initiates
00:41:54
call and then dictated the list in
00:41:57
several conversations the next day or
00:42:01
Jan turn school somebody that worked in
00:42:03
school is a janitor I feel this was some
00:42:07
kind of kidnap abduction of some kind or
00:42:10
something like that I also feel that I'm
00:42:14
dealing with the recital tendencies the
00:42:20
numbers 1 & 7 were very important
00:42:22
whether it's 71 or 17 I don't know just
00:42:26
yet the clues were random images it
00:42:28
might relate to the victim the murderer
00:42:31
friends or even the police wear his
00:42:36
glasses and sometimes a week to look
00:42:39
different oh okay when I was talking to
00:42:45
Dorothy on the telephone she mentioned
00:42:47
about a police officer possibly in
00:42:49
disguise wearing a beard that he now
00:42:51
doesn't have
00:42:52
and a wig or hairpiece of that nature
00:42:55
that kind of keyed upon me because I'm a
00:42:59
policeman I don't film in disguise but I
00:43:01
am in plain clothes I wear a hairpiece
00:43:05
and I just took a beard off two days ago
00:43:08
I was on vacation and she could have
00:43:10
been keying in on me which is possible
00:43:18
Dorothy flew to Hagerstown with her
00:43:20
husband Bob to meet with detective Watt
00:43:22
in the shade immediately after they
00:43:24
landed Dorothy had a name for the
00:43:26
authorities I'll have a name here for
00:43:37
you it's kind of trouble but there's a
00:43:43
name for you okay it's either our
00:43:46
charkas Inuk name and then it's he the
00:43:48
Bernstein goldstein the last name when
00:43:51
it comes to psychics if you would looked
00:43:53
at him in a general sense I would tell
00:43:55
you I think they're a bunch of baloney
00:43:57
but I'm keeping an open mind towards
00:44:00
Dorothy Ellison because I want to solve
00:44:02
this case very badly for four years a
00:44:05
police have been unable to solve the
00:44:07
case of laurie zimmerman a 15 year old
00:44:10
school girl who in april 1984 left her
00:44:12
aunt's house and simply disappeared
00:44:16
eight days later Laurie's partially
00:44:19
naked body was found in the forest 12
00:44:21
miles away she had been beaten and
00:44:24
suffocated the coroner found a foreign
00:44:27
object lodged in her throat I feel that
00:44:31
she was in front of a wide prairie when
00:44:33
she met these are two brothers or
00:44:35
choucas
00:44:37
friends of ours right from our own
00:44:38
neighborhood she didn't meet somebody
00:44:41
there their name creepy within minutes
00:44:43
of leaving the airport more thoughts and
00:44:46
images flooded Dorothy's mind feel that
00:44:49
she had been raped
00:44:51
and then her
00:44:54
I know that if I had to see her I don't
00:44:56
know why but I get a feeling just
00:44:58
something the matter with her head is Oh
00:44:59
somebody
00:45:01
something near her head I'm getting
00:45:03
something on the head for college Brenda
00:45:06
two places but that of course wasn't the
00:45:09
cause of death I get more of a
00:45:12
suffocation I know I can't breathe or
00:45:14
something huh
00:45:15
whatever it is I feel a lot of things
00:45:16
around this girl tremendous man
00:45:22
no I think I'm gonna tell you what
00:45:25
actually there's a choking going on my
00:45:28
throat - she's choking on something and
00:45:35
this is during the attack you know she's
00:45:38
choking I think you know what I'm
00:45:41
getting into like as a force on the
00:45:44
throat but it's more of a choking type
00:45:46
exactly that type of situation I'm
00:45:51
getting there's no way that Dorothy
00:45:54
Ellison would have known about an object
00:45:56
being in the victims throat she related
00:46:00
that it didn't seem to her to be a
00:46:02
choking of the hands around the throat
00:46:04
but as a choking of some type of object
00:46:07
down inside the victims throat and I was
00:46:09
very surprised that she keyed in on this
00:46:11
because this is a a point in the
00:46:14
investigation that we did not make
00:46:16
public she she definitely absolutely
00:46:19
walked down the street and she goes as
00:46:22
far as the library and she is picked up
00:46:24
in this yellow car that I described in
00:46:27
the real old car well here's a library
00:46:29
right here on the left
00:46:30
after 24 hours in Hagerstown Dorothy had
00:46:33
come up with literally dozens of
00:46:34
possible clues many seemed unrelated to
00:46:37
the case others would seem misdirected
00:46:40
Keith Wotton shades hairpiece for
00:46:42
instance and the janitor Dorothy
00:46:44
mentioned may have been Lori stepfather
00:46:46
not a suspect the individual she named
00:46:50
at the airport Chuck Goldstein R
00:46:52
Bernstein is also not a suspect though
00:46:55
according to Dorothy he may have some
00:46:57
information but some of Dorothy's clues
00:47:00
did seem connected to the crime
00:47:02
for example Dorothy had seen the numbers
00:47:05
1 & 7 she learned that Lori had been
00:47:07
laid to rest at the cemetery in plot 17
00:47:12
Dorothy had mentioned the name Cleveland
00:47:14
the last Street sign before the crime
00:47:17
scene was that a turn-off called
00:47:18
Cleveland Town Road
00:47:22
Dorothy talked about an old church half
00:47:26
a mile from where the body was found
00:47:27
there was indeed an old church all these
00:47:33
clues might be coincidences
00:47:34
but they might also be part of a mosaic
00:47:36
that once assembled will create a
00:47:39
picture of what happened to Lori
00:47:40
Zimmerman at the crime scene
00:47:46
Dorothy experienced the strongest
00:47:47
sensation that she'd felt during the
00:47:49
entire investigation but as far as that
00:47:52
name I feel that I feel him strong about
00:47:55
anybody right now in this area I feel
00:47:58
that he's the one who took the girl here
00:48:01
and the reason he murdered her was
00:48:03
because she was reluctant to let him do
00:48:05
whatever he wanted he said she screamed
00:48:09
out loud and he panicked and I believe
00:48:11
that he hit her on the head
00:48:12
you know the head area I believe that he
00:48:15
killed her that way but I do believe
00:48:18
that this man that murdered this girl I
00:48:21
think you should start looking for okay
00:48:25
in fact that be positive that he's the
00:48:27
one detective Rotten she does run the
00:48:33
name of Dorothy mentions with the police
00:48:34
computers that there are no known
00:48:36
suspects by that name in total she came
00:48:39
up with 50 different clues only when the
00:48:42
crime is song you know how many of
00:48:44
Dorothy's visions are really connected
00:48:46
to the murder of laurie zimmerman
00:48:49
[Music]
00:48:54
for every mystery there is someone
00:48:57
somewhere who knows the truth perhaps
00:48:59
that someone is watching perhaps it's
00:49:01
you
00:49:05
[Music]
00:49:28
[Applause]
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[Music]
