25 Years After 9/11: The Fire Chief Who Worked Ground Zero
- Sep 8, 2026
- 1:15:44
- Full Episode
Content warning: This episode includes discussion of the terrorist attacks of September 11 2001, death, human remains, people falling or jumping from the towers, grief and trauma.
On September 11, 2001, David Morkal woke up in New Jersey, helping his father-in-law with some renovations.
That night, he was down at Ground Zero standing on the rubble of the Twin Towers. Surrounded by 2763 people who passed away- including 343 firefighters. On his first drive home, he had to pull over because he was crying too hard to see the road.
Dave spent 33 years with the New York City Fire Department.
Twenty-five years on from the attacks, he joins me to talk about the friends he lost, the responsibility of helping rebuild, and learning to live with what happened.
Brief Summary
Lieutenant Dave Moral recounts his experiences during 9/11 and its lasting impact on first responders.
Key points
- The Weight of Memory. Each anniversary brings a heavy reminder of loss and the emotional toll it takes.
- Frustration at the Firehouse. Firefighters faced a brutal wait as they were unable to respond to the crisis.
- The Choice to Jump. For some, jumping was the only escape from the flames, a tragic decision.
- Promotion Amidst Tragedy. A firefighter reflects on receiving a promotion during the aftermath of 9/11.
- Processing Trauma. Discussing the emotional toll of attending multiple funerals and the need for coping mechanisms.
- Post-Traumatic Growth. Processing trauma can lead to emerging stronger and better.
Episode highlights
- The Weight of MemoryEach anniversary brings a heavy reminder of loss and the emotional toll it takes.“This is what's defined us over the last 25 years.”3:53Sep 8, 2026
- Frustration at the FirehouseFirefighters faced a brutal wait as they were unable to respond to the crisis.“Not being able to do anything is just brutal.”10:06Sep 8, 2026
- The Choice to JumpFor some, jumping was the only escape from the flames, a tragic decision.“Jumping to a very violent death was preferable to staying up there and burning alive.”15:09Sep 8, 2026
- Promotion Amidst TragedyA firefighter reflects on receiving a promotion during the aftermath of 9/11.“It was a tough promotion. It's supposed to be a happy occasion.”26:00Sep 8, 2026
- Processing TraumaDiscussing the emotional toll of attending multiple funerals and the need for coping mechanisms.“Going to that many funerals has its own residue that impacts you.”27:24Sep 8, 2026
- Post-Traumatic GrowthProcessing trauma can lead to emerging stronger and better.“If you really process the residue, you can come out stronger.”37:25Sep 8, 2026
- The Outpouring of SupportFirefighters felt the world's appreciation during their efforts post-9/11.“You just felt like everybody was supporting us as we went down to work.”40:14Sep 8, 2026
- Transitioning from Work to HomeStruggling to balance the trauma of work with family life.“How do you deal with that transition?”43:14Sep 8, 2026





