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hello you little Legends and welcome to
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Runners only with dom Harvey that's me
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thank you so much for being here thanks
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for downloading it thanks for sending me
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your feedback and thoughts on the
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podcast I will Implement some changes
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and thank you very much for all the
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guest suggestions that I've had as well
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there's a lot of amazing people out
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there that have running as part of the
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fabric of their life and uh unless you
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bring them to my attention there's no
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way that I can possibly know about them
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so thank you very much at the time of
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recording this I've just been out for a
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15K run felt really good I've noticed
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something happening though with my
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running the last actually it's probably
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been creeping up since uh the pandemic
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first started two years ago now so I
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have a coach I pay him 150 a month and
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he writes me up a program and it just
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goes to an app on my phone and uh I've
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been with Ian my coach for maybe five or
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six years now
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and uh with his help he's got me running
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faster than what I've ever run before
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and I managed to run the Tokyo Marathon
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four years ago in two hours 57 which was
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like a a goal that I didn't think was
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achievable for me so we've had great
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success together but one thing I've
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found with um events being canceled I've
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just lost that spark when it comes to
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following the program and forcing myself
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to run fast so I might open up the app
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and it'll tell me say for example today
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to run 5Ks at a certain pace and then
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3ks at a slightly faster Pace then 2ks
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faster and then in one case Sprint at
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the end and I've just had days and today
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was one of those days where you look at
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and go you know what I don't feel like
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doing that I'm just going to run for fun
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as a consequence of not following the
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program my running has definitely got
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slower and if there was an event like a
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half marathon or a marathon it would
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definitely be like a pace that would
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disappoint me
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um but it's reminded me the last couple
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of years uh with um cancellations and
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lockdowns and things what running really
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means to me and it is just the act of
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movement and it's not necessarily about
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moving fast so that's been a good
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realization and I'm trying not to beat
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myself up about it I do feel like I'm
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letting him down I'm wasting wasting my
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money by paying him wasting his time
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because he's giving me this advice and
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I'm not taking it but that's where I'm
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at at the moment
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today's guest today's guest Lexi Brown
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um she was The Bachelorette on tvnz2
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last year she's also a runner and she's
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just a great human being she's a really
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good friend of mine I really hope you
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like this chat but before we get into
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that uh some of the feedback I had there
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was a lot of comments people saying they
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thought the podcasts ended a bit
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abruptly like the conversation last week
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with Mitch James and the conversation
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with Matt Finn we just sort of signed
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off and that was the end of it
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um so I will take that advice on board
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and there will be a more formal ending
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it's probably a bit rude it's like just
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leaving a room without saying goodbye or
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ghosting someone so I appreciate that
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feedback some feedback I won't be taking
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a text I got from Maid of mine Craig and
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Northland Craig told me that he didn't
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like the theme music for runners only I
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sent a text back to him saying um yeah
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it's probably a little bit too Hip Hop
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for him because he likes Cold Chisel
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Jimmy Barnes Foo Fighters Pearl Jam rock
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music like that and he replied oh no no
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no no no he had no problem with the
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genre the problem for him is that he
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felt like it went on forever he said it
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fell over her theme music was as long as
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the podcast itself which is
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um not true it's a very big exaggeration
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so we will be sticking with the theme
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song for a little while I spent 80 bucks
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on that thing gotta commit anyway here
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we go with the extra long theme song for
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runners only then we're into it Miss
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Lexi Brown
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[Music]
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just wanna connect for everyone who
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loves running this is
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[Music]
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[Music]
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hello Lexi Brown hello Dominic Harvey
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how are you I'm good I'm good I feel I
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feel kind of selfish I'm wearing
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headphones so I could hear my theme
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music you couldn't hear my theme music
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no it's pretty loud though I can kind of
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hear it right right I got it from um
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there's an app called Fiverr uh where
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you can get things made and get things
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done so um some dude in America made it
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for like 80 bucks no way yeah did you
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get to like give him feedback or did he
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just slap something together he um he
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was actually really good like he asked
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me for instructions on what I wanted and
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what the vibe was and then he came up
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with that and uh we went backwards and
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forth for a couple of changes but I was
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mostly happy with it oh my god do you
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like it I love it I love it that's
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amazing um now full disclosure here I'm
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I'm bloody nervous I'm very nervous Dom
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how could you be nervous you've been on
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radio for 20 years well yeah yeah I was
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on the edge for 20 years and then um at
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another radio station for like 10 years
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before that and um yeah the age has got
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like a massive massive Nationwide
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audience yeah um this little podcast I
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don't know how many people maybe 50
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maybe 100 I like I really don't know but
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it's my my own thing yeah and it all
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falls on me so I feel um incredibly
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responsible by the way I'm starting to
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beat up on the switch I've got the AC on
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as long as it can go we might need a
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flannel at some point
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um there is no thing to use so the um
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the podcast is called Runners only with
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dom Harvey yeah and I've um I've got a
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few radio friends and a few podcasting
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friends but I told them about it and
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they all sort of
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pulled a face like oh is it a bit Niche
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like you know is is anyone going to
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listen that's not into running so I
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thought you're a fantastic guest because
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you sort of set the tone because um you
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you are a runner but you're so many
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other things as well like running is
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just a just a small part of your life
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yeah yeah yeah I mean how do you think
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running is for you though is running a
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huge part of your life
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yeah I'm like a running nerd but I'm I'm
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also I feel like I'm a bit like you in a
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way I'm I'm sort of like a running
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Anarchist like I I I
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um you know I'll get you [ __ ] faced and
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then the next morning I'll be full of
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self-loathing and I'll go for a run and
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sort of balance things out that way yeah
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I like to think of it as balance
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actually yeah all the things don't just
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throw yourself into just one you know
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yeah so how where did it start for you
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when did running sort of become a thing
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for you
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um I guess I never really ran regularly
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in my life until I moved to London
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um and there's nothing like a European
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summer to just motivate you to get fit
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and so it was about Fitness and just I
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guess London like there's so much going
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on and I found I wouldn't run far but I
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would run three to four times a week and
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I'd run five or six K and it was like my
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little safety spot like I knew I could
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just get out and I had like half an hour
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to myself to I don't know and that's the
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first time that I really started to
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appreciate
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um running because I think before that I
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was just like uh running and when you
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meet people who like running you're like
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oh my God weirdo
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um but yeah so I kind of found my way
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with just regular running nothing crazy
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um really enjoyed it and obviously great
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for fitness and then last year
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um I decided I wanted to do a half
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marathon and I did it and so that was
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quite a journey as well because I was
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used to kind of running short links and
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then I started to push myself obviously
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with my training and I think the biggest
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thing that I learned from running my
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first half marathon was it sounds so
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obvious and so simple
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um and I feel like I already knew this
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but I kind of was re-proving it to
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myself which was if you want to do
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something
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set yourself a goal map out a little
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pathway it doesn't even have to be super
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mapped out I literally got a spreadsheet
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and just wrote three days a week wrote
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down some kilometers and used that as a
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guide yeah and then off you go so I
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started here this was my goal this was
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my time frame and my pathway and I
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achieved it and it was just like I know
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that's how life works and most people
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are like you're sexy that's called goal
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setting but I don't know it was just
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like a nice reminder to me that like if
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I want to do [ __ ] I can do it I just
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need to Define my goal set up my pathway
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and off I go I think that's how because
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you reached out to me Earth it was like
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August last year you're doing a thing
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for your birthday and uh we had a couple
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of DMS going backwards and forwards with
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some running related questions and then
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we were going to run together but I know
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I couldn't leave Auckland so no you you
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didn't end up doing
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um an official like half marathon event
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you just did 21ks on your own right
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because of covert yeah I was actually
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saying can I so that makes it way harder
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like it's in an event enjoying with
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others I know I was very fortunate
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um so
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Sarah
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um just so my cousin Sarah decided to do
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a quarter and I was doing the half and
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we did sign up to an event it was the
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Tauranga um City to Surf and then clove
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had happened so the event physically was
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canceled but they were still encouraging
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everybody that weekend to still do the
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half right but I was also very fortunate
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to have a friend called Cody who is kind
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of like you like a running freak he's
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been running a half marathon every
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weekend for like six months now and he
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refuses to give it up he's like I can't
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break the streak but it means that I
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have a really close friend who was
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prepared to do distance yeah so luckily
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um towards the end I had moved here and
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he did all my long runs with me and he
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just knows some stuff so he kind of was
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helping me figure out what I should eat
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um and how I just making me more
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conscious of how I felt as I ran I think
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I just used to blindly run and I've just
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learned a lot more about like listening
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to how I feel and how I can like better
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assist myself to be ready to run yeah
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and you did you did really well you um
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does this thing you do every year for
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your birthday you do like a bunch of
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[ __ ] yes I do so I love birthdays and I
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have a thing called Birthday Month
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um and I think by the way can I just say
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that those people are the worst it's a
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birthday it's not a birth week a birth
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month but anyway I will happily be that
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person in your life being like it's my
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birthday this whole month it counts
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um I think I I'm a big believer in like
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enjoying every day in life not just kind
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of like grinding and holding out for
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like two epic holidays a year or one
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cool month a year type of thing so I
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like to I think I think my birthday is a
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chance for me to just
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have an excuse to really see everyone
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that I love and share a whole month with
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people and to go out and do things that
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maybe I wouldn't normally do last year I
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did a whole month of every day I had to
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do something I'd never done before I
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started on your Instagram
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um Instagram page you um snowboarding in
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a black bikini yes I did that that was
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actually the year before for my birthday
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and I like to do
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that and I like to kind of elongate my
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birthday as well but it's less about me
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and more about reminding myself to kind
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of enjoy life and to reach out and share
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it with the people that I love so what
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were some of the things and this year
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just gone half marathon obviously what
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else
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um I did a Skydive over the Tauranga
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area
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um I had a dance party on the beach with
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my grandparents and which is my most
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watched video people just absolutely
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felt that because my grandparents are
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adorable
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um by the way you share quite a bit of
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them on um if you follow you on
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Instagram by the way what's your handle
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what's your at Miss Lexi Brown yeah yeah
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the relationship you have with your
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grandparents it's just it's wonderful
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right yeah it's wonderful fantastic yeah
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they're very they're awesome they're so
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so cool um we're very close with them
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and um yeah I wrote them into doing all
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sorts of things I got father to help me
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make a um
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earthshotsky do you know what that is
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it's like oh yeah like a like a snow ski
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with um some shot glasses exactly so
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um papa is really good at like whipping
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things up and then it is two but more
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like clothes and stuff
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um but pop I'm gonna find some old skis
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at a second hand store he like helped me
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cut things and drill things and stick
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things and then the three of us tested
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it which not
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people have done what they're going
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there
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um yeah but they're awesome and we spend
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a lot of time with them
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um yeah I say we because I'm always
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talking about Sarah and I yeah so this
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is some Siri your your BFF who we uh if
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you're watching The Bachelorette last
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year you would have seen her in there
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um and I arrived at your house today to
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do the podcast and she lives with you
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yes she's sitting here filming some of
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this podcast session yeah yeah we always
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seeing this so um yeah sorry I didn't
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bring a third microphone for you I'm
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sorry like here's a silent friend just
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here
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so um so your your grandparents um when
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you told them that you're going on The
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Bachelorette I'm guessing they weren't
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surprised like
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um I'm guessing you don't sort of say no
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to much no yeah I think
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I think when I told my family that I was
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doing it
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I think there was definitely a sense of
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oh I'm not surprised but not because of
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it being romantically linked or dating
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more because I just do lots of crazy
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[ __ ] and people like oh yeah that makes
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sense thinks he's off doing something
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again
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um so no I don't think they were
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surprised um and they absolutely loved
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it it was such a cool experience overall
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and I think
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um a part of it that is really cool is I
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did do most of it alone it's very alone
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experience but
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um when we had the home visits I got to
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share some of it with everyone which was
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so amazing and it wasn't just you know
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mum dad brother sister it was like
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because my family's not actually that
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classic my family is very like why yeah
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varied and we're all very like open and
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together and stuff so I had like so many
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people at my home visits um and it was
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cool because everyone got to see it
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everyone got to experience like the
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cameras the people the people trying to
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tell you what to do and like you know I
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had to give you front I had to get like
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protect my family a little bit and
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they're like they're going to do this
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they're going to do that just say no
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come get me like you know I was like
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that's but I was so pleased that I could
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share some of the process with them so
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that they could kind of understand it a
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little bit more so when I talked about
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stuff they had a bit of a clue because
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they did get to do it for a couple of
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days well I think that's exciting for
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most people right like to yeah to see
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the yeah yeah directors and the cameras
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and just that sort of Slither of like
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Showbiz yeah I think so I think for me
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it was so intensive and you're in it so
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deep and so quick that it does normalize
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kind of in a way kind of quickly
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um but for lots of people who've never
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done something like that it is it's
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quite novel and it's very interesting
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um I think I think there's a lot these
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days a lot more people understand
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reality TV is a certain way and there's
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producers and there's story lines even
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though it's reality
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um but I still think people are still
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surprised by how many people are behind
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like
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um what the camera can see yeah and how
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much effort goes into it and yeah it was
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pretty outrageous pretty unreal
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experience for me as well because it
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I don't know it was just so interesting
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being like the center like it's not yeah
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as opposed to one of 20 or in another
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format like the block you know you've
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got
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how many sets of two and it's about
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everyone so yeah it was really unique
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and really for me and really um
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interesting and to be that one and it's
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kind of like
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everyone wants something from you and
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everyone needs something from you and
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you know without you they don't have the
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show like it all kind of rides on you so
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yeah it was um so how did that come
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about where were you you were you were
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living in Canada yes yeah I was living
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in Canada
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um I'd moved to Canada from London and
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then
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I got home from overseas
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um because of covert so we'd all come
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home I think in March and I was in a
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relationship at the time we got home
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broke up
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um how long was that one was it a long
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one yeah that was probably my longest
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um that one was about three years I'm
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sorry to hear what happened there just
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run its course or yeah we just went
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right for each other and we'd kind of
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figure that out and I think coming home
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we were like okay well we don't need to
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do this anymore
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um but you know it's still a lot to
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process yeah held within like 28 29. uh
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yeah I think I was I guess no I hit my
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30th 2013. yeah
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um got home and yeah I was just kind of
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like footloose and fancy free to be
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honest and I didn't even have like a job
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because I just got home from overseas so
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I was mooching around trying to I don't
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know figure life out day by day and then
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um you know what they do they like
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Target you they target my demographic on
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social media so so what did you start
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getting ads or did someone started
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getting it yeah right right I started
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getting ads and funnily enough before I
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even got ads my little brother in in a
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message Chat was like um asking me what
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I was up to and he said something and I
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put this in my application video he
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wrote a message you should do the
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bachelorette that'd be hilarious TV haha
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and that's before it was even on my
00:16:23
radar how's that for foreshadowing
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um anyway saw the ad clicked into it and
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thought Oh and um read through what you
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had to do and then I just exited it and
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didn't think about it like paperwork and
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stuff yeah I just wanted to look at like
00:16:36
what it took like like and it was
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basically I think it was like 10
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questions and um a one minute video
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right and I looked at a exited it didn't
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think about it and then I saw another ad
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and I thought
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oh well could be a song this is
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hilarious and so um I applied and I just
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took the purse I was not serious about
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it at all
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I mean like I seriously would love to
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find someone to share my life with but
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um I'm sure many applications kind of
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gushed about maybe love and Men
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um and mine wasn't quite of that nature
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but maybe that's why
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um it caught their eye I'm not sure but
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yeah and then it was just started the
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slow process I just got an email first
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and then had to do a video call
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um and they just asked me like quick
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five questions it just did not solve it
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was 30 minutes of just like boom boom
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boom and they record that and then they
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Mash that up with my application video
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and all the finalists go to like a set
00:17:33
of people
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um and then yeah I got a call and I was
00:17:36
shortlisted and then I got an email to
00:17:39
say I was still shortlisted it in a
00:17:40
favorite and then I got the call and
00:17:42
I've um they flew me up for interviews
00:17:45
and it was three finalists and then yeah
00:17:48
they called me the next day and psych
00:17:50
testing or anything like that yes yeah
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um yes we did have to get site tested I
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actually think I had to get psych tested
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before I had the contract as in um I
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think the top final girls had to get
00:18:01
safety said and all the boys
00:18:04
um I have to get psyched he said
00:18:05
basically everyone who grows on the show
00:18:07
so I believe I see it's like testing
00:18:10
um not that that stops necessarily some
00:18:13
crazy events
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um wow so when you applied for it like
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how much of you was like okay I could
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find I could find Mr right here and how
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much it was like oh well whatever
00:18:26
happens it's a good experience get a bit
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of Expo get on TV I think for me I it
00:18:31
was just kind of like a mash of both
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yeah I think
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um a huge draw card was like this would
00:18:35
be so fun and just like another
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hilarious story for my book of life
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um and the other side was like it's very
00:18:42
unlikely it's so unlikely like what are
00:18:45
the chances that a casting crew who have
00:18:47
never met you or gotten to know you can
00:18:49
cast the man of your dreams chances are
00:18:52
through the floor like no chance but I I
00:18:55
couldn't let go of this like but what if
00:18:57
genuinely what if someone walked down
00:18:59
their Cafe and I was just like holy [ __ ]
00:19:03
and yeah so how many how many guys there
00:19:05
was a lot of guys yeah China guys I
00:19:07
think there was 20 or something yeah I
00:19:10
think there might have been 19 and
00:19:12
there was the Intruder right oh Jesse
00:19:14
yeah who I've become quite good friends
00:19:16
with he's a great dude yeah he's
00:19:17
hilarious
00:19:19
um but straight away like as soon as
00:19:20
Jesse turned up as the Intruder I was
00:19:22
like oh and same with him both of us
00:19:25
were just like make Vibes straight away
00:19:27
um but yeah I feel a little ripped off
00:19:29
they didn't give me any like realistic
00:19:31
Intruders and they only gave me one
00:19:33
um but still Jesse is hilarious so I'm
00:19:35
glad I met him yeah do you um yeah what
00:19:38
do you look for like do you have like a
00:19:41
um like a like a male checklist or a
00:19:43
partner checklist no I don't operate
00:19:45
that succinctly when it comes to love
00:19:49
um I think for me I'm massive on
00:19:52
um like feeling it yeah I love it when
00:19:55
you meet someone and straight away
00:19:56
you're like oh my God you know and it'll
00:19:59
be a mix of all sorts of things like yes
00:20:01
what they look like but also it's just
00:20:02
like that thing you can't describe
00:20:04
because I've been having this thing yeah
00:20:06
I can't expect that yes and like
00:20:08
I don't know what it is but lately like
00:20:10
made a few nice people
00:20:13
um and like they're good looking they're
00:20:15
cool nice to me into me and I just have
00:20:20
to be honest with myself and just it's
00:20:23
so weird when they can like be great on
00:20:25
paper but it's we're just missing the
00:20:27
chemistry yeah there's just no chemistry
00:20:29
and so I think I've really identified
00:20:31
that that does matter to me because you
00:20:33
just
00:20:37
I don't think I could spend my whole
00:20:39
life with someone who's just nice
00:20:45
they're like oh what's wrong with nice
00:20:47
guys I'm like no no those guys are great
00:20:49
it's not about that it's about chemistry
00:20:51
because ultimately whoever I do end up
00:20:53
with I um they better be nice they will
00:20:56
be nice I won't accept anything less but
00:20:58
um it's the chemistry that's key for me
00:21:00
I think yeah as they say love on it you
00:21:01
need the fanny flowers right yeah there
00:21:03
we go you need those yeah you need to
00:21:05
feel it yeah where it matters so um
00:21:09
um there was a great bunch of guys
00:21:11
though so no there was no one there that
00:21:12
you you were like oh straight away oh
00:21:15
[ __ ]
00:21:15
no there's no one straight away that I
00:21:18
was like whoa
00:21:20
um obviously I thought a few of them
00:21:22
were cute and stuff
00:21:24
um but I actually kind of enjoyed that
00:21:26
there was no one that just blew me away
00:21:28
because it allowed me to continue to
00:21:31
relax yeah I think if anyone had been
00:21:33
there that I'd so seriously been like oh
00:21:34
my God that guy I would have found it
00:21:36
hard to keep my [ __ ] together you know
00:21:38
so on national TV yeah yeah on national
00:21:40
TV it's a little easier when yeah when
00:21:44
you're just kind of
00:21:45
um I don't know it's a little bit more
00:21:47
relaxed because you don't immediately
00:21:48
feel like holy [ __ ] yeah there's there's
00:21:50
one guy Paul who ended up finishing
00:21:52
third he's a chef in Auckland I've never
00:21:54
met him in real life yet but we've um
00:21:55
become like Instagram mates yeah I mean
00:21:57
he's a great human
00:21:59
um I remember he stands out because I
00:22:00
remember him turning up on The
00:22:01
Bachelorette and um he like pulled out a
00:22:03
key and he goes oh this is a key to my
00:22:05
apartment in Paris or something
00:22:08
um he is like a super super cool guy but
00:22:10
I don't know was that kind of douchey
00:22:14
do you know what is so funny about this
00:22:16
whole thing is like everyone tells me
00:22:19
different opinions about different
00:22:20
things so some people say to me oh my
00:22:22
God that guy pulled out those keys and
00:22:23
we were all like whoa nailed it and then
00:22:25
other people like you were like never do
00:22:27
that again that was embarrassing
00:22:30
I I just tried to do everything kind of
00:22:33
like
00:22:33
um
00:22:34
just as it came yeah and like I I don't
00:22:37
think I particularly judgy on anything
00:22:38
to be honest because [ __ ] be who you
00:22:41
want like do it like they only do it
00:22:43
they like and just I try to enjoy
00:22:44
everyone for like the value that they do
00:22:47
bring and not worry about whether
00:22:49
they're this or whether they're there um
00:22:51
yeah that was pretty funny he's
00:22:53
hilarious we we really got on I think
00:22:55
because of just living overseas and we
00:22:57
get on anyway we're still really good
00:22:58
friends yeah
00:22:59
um yeah how many how many of the guys
00:23:00
are still friends with so many of them
00:23:03
yeah really um I think time has
00:23:04
something to do with like the longer
00:23:05
people were on the show I'm usually
00:23:07
better friends with the ones that were
00:23:08
there the longest but
00:23:09
um yeah I'm
00:23:11
really good friends with almost all of
00:23:13
them
00:23:14
um not the guys at the start that I kind
00:23:16
of only meet for one day you know like I
00:23:19
think I literally saw one of them for
00:23:20
like 10 minutes and then they're gone
00:23:22
because you've seen quite a few home on
00:23:23
the first night
00:23:25
um but yeah I I'm so so so stoked
00:23:28
because I'm a very people person and I I
00:23:30
definitely like gain energy from being
00:23:32
around others
00:23:33
um and so I really loved the people
00:23:36
aspect of it although we didn't actually
00:23:38
TV is very misleading I didn't get to
00:23:42
spend a lot of time with any of them
00:23:44
actually yeah I wanted to ask you about
00:23:45
that because I'm guessing um so the guys
00:23:48
have got each other yes um so so what do
00:23:50
you got where are you staying yeah have
00:23:52
you got any access to the internet or
00:23:54
outside world yeah so
00:23:55
um being like the one as in I was The
00:23:58
Bachelorette I had kind of full autonomy
00:24:00
over my usual life except that I had
00:24:02
this filming schedule which was super
00:24:03
intense
00:24:05
um none of the boys had their phones
00:24:07
um so I was saying when we're in
00:24:08
Auckland I was at the Novotel and for
00:24:10
the first week I had Sarah with me which
00:24:11
was amazing so she was in the room next
00:24:13
to me yeah so that was a great support
00:24:16
um and then once we left Auckland we
00:24:18
went to Queenstown
00:24:19
um and no was it the Nova no I was in
00:24:21
the Sofitel in Auckland and the Novotel
00:24:23
in Queenstown
00:24:24
um but very lonely so the people I'm
00:24:27
closest to or with often is I had a
00:24:31
story producer so for people who don't
00:24:33
know the story producer kind of monitors
00:24:36
looks after builds grows my story so
00:24:39
like my narrative
00:24:41
um and it's it's quite a working
00:24:42
relationship because
00:24:44
yes what happens in front of the camera
00:24:46
is kind of what's happening and that's
00:24:47
like the bulk of it but there's all the
00:24:50
shots where you talk to camera right and
00:24:52
that's where you can comment on things
00:24:53
and get your side across or
00:24:56
um I don't know my I worked really well
00:24:58
with my story producer she was great I
00:25:00
so appreciate her love her shout out
00:25:02
headfield
00:25:03
um and so I felt really fortunate to
00:25:05
have her we worked really well together
00:25:06
and I would push back as well she'd
00:25:08
sometimes ask me like the dumbest
00:25:09
questions and I'd be like I'm not
00:25:11
answering that and well what line what's
00:25:14
an example of the dumbest question
00:25:18
so then you end up answering it and
00:25:20
saying something that you would never
00:25:21
normally say and they'll use that as a
00:25:23
cut you know like
00:25:25
for example something just so dumb like
00:25:27
um
00:25:28
oh see I can't even think of off the top
00:25:30
of my head and I was just like I'm not
00:25:31
gonna say any words surrounding what
00:25:33
you've just said because that's weird
00:25:35
and that's not me or how I think yeah so
00:25:37
sometimes she would ask me things I'd be
00:25:39
like no and then I'd say what are you
00:25:41
trying to get at and she was so good
00:25:43
she'd be like look this has happened for
00:25:45
you but the audience haven't seen this
00:25:46
or that yet so you need to take them on
00:25:48
that journey and explain or like it
00:25:50
would be weird if just blah blah goes
00:25:52
home tomorrow and you haven't even
00:25:53
spoken about him like you know how
00:25:55
you're feeling but you haven't talked
00:25:56
about it yet so I'd be like this is a
00:25:57
good point so then I'd be like look I'm
00:25:59
happy to say this what do you think and
00:26:00
she'll be like yep we'll go with that
00:26:01
and so it was just like a compromise yes
00:26:04
compromise um I suppose it's lucky that
00:26:06
you've got that strength of character
00:26:07
though because a lot of a lot of people
00:26:08
would be potentially more moldable or
00:26:10
more go with the flow 100 and I think um
00:26:12
even even I look back on the experience
00:26:15
and think oh they got me there or like
00:26:17
oh I should have pushed back there but
00:26:18
you don't know what you don't know so
00:26:20
I'm pleased that I did have like a
00:26:22
certain level of that in me when I
00:26:25
started
00:26:26
um so yeah very spent a lot of time with
00:26:28
my story producer you know we do a whole
00:26:30
day shoot finish a rose ceremony at like
00:26:32
midnight and still have to go on to like
00:26:34
a two hour director camera so I'm
00:26:36
getting to bed like middle of the night
00:26:37
yeah so um really intense
00:26:40
um but it's okay it was epic experience
00:26:42
um
00:26:44
I'll be furious it was five weeks
00:26:47
filming and I had one day off and which
00:26:50
was between Auckland and Queenstown um
00:26:52
well sorry for so many questions about
00:26:54
this but I'm um I love shitty reality TV
00:26:56
I am it's a guilty pleasure for all of
00:26:58
us don't you worry I'm mad about that
00:27:00
stuff so um the guy that finished second
00:27:02
it was it Todd year so when you let him
00:27:06
down right at the end yeah he he was
00:27:08
very very emotional like burst into
00:27:09
tears it was a really sad moment how
00:27:12
like how many hours do you think you'd
00:27:13
spent with them all up
00:27:15
and the previous x amount of weeks yeah
00:27:18
not
00:27:20
I know these people
00:27:24
I do think that that how I feel about
00:27:26
them now is because of what I learned
00:27:29
about them on the show and then with
00:27:30
others outside of the show uh over time
00:27:32
you're like whoa that was really like
00:27:34
just put on so
00:27:36
um time spent
00:27:39
alone oh well you're never alone because
00:27:41
you're always with the camera crew but
00:27:42
maybe on like I think
00:27:45
I think I only had it one single date
00:27:47
with Todd and maybe one
00:27:49
chat or one like half date there's like
00:27:51
full dates and half dates
00:27:53
um so you don't even know someone after
00:27:55
that no you do not know people and I
00:27:57
think this is what maybe people watching
00:27:59
don't realize is
00:28:01
a you do not spend time with these
00:28:03
people they all spend time with each
00:28:04
other like you said in the house like
00:28:06
they've got nothing to do they get to
00:28:07
know each other Bond whatever the camera
00:28:09
crew does leave and they can all tell
00:28:11
bedtime stories which apparently there
00:28:13
are some stories from there
00:28:14
um but I didn't have that kind of
00:28:18
opportunity so yeah everything is kind
00:28:20
of like on screen and you get no
00:28:22
off-screen time literally if you try to
00:28:24
talk when they're not filming they like
00:28:27
to separate you or they'll stand between
00:28:29
you or they'll just be like stop talking
00:28:31
so literally every conversation you have
00:28:34
with each of the guys is like on film
00:28:36
yeah so it's it's not natural and some
00:28:40
people uh I think I managed okay with it
00:28:44
to still kind of really be myself but I
00:28:46
think for some of the guys it was like
00:28:48
really unnatural in a real struggle so
00:28:50
it makes it hard to keep oh the whole
00:28:51
thing is complete you think it's so
00:28:53
unnatural so you say you meet someone
00:28:54
you're going on a first date you
00:28:56
probably talked about what music you're
00:28:57
into you're not going to be talking
00:28:58
about your feelings yeah and also
00:29:00
another thing that happened was we would
00:29:03
get you know sometimes with the guys
00:29:04
would get into really nice normal dating
00:29:06
Converse
00:29:08
to or well you've traveled or like if
00:29:10
you have mutual friends and things and
00:29:11
you get cut off and they'll because it's
00:29:13
not interesting conversation yeah you
00:29:16
waste your time
00:29:17
come on guys
00:29:19
um talk about something else don't talk
00:29:21
about that travel they hated us talking
00:29:23
about travel which is interesting
00:29:25
because I've lived and worked and
00:29:26
traveled so many countries and I don't
00:29:28
even think that's apparent on the show
00:29:29
and it's quite a big part of me yeah
00:29:31
yeah but yeah so amount of time yeah
00:29:34
you're kept apart
00:29:36
um that's one thing that people don't
00:29:37
realize and the other thing that people
00:29:39
don't realize watching is that they get
00:29:42
to see so much more than I do so not
00:29:44
only do I not get to spend time with
00:29:45
these boys men what do you mean
00:29:48
um I also don't get to see
00:29:51
what they what they say in their
00:29:53
director cameras yeah yeah so that was a
00:29:56
real big shift for me
00:29:58
um because I don't get to watch the show
00:30:00
before it grows on TV so I'm watching
00:30:02
with the nation and oh really you don't
00:30:04
you don't get it because I know
00:30:06
sometimes they cut the episode quite
00:30:07
late you don't get it a day before
00:30:09
nothing so I was watching it before I
00:30:11
think I was getting them like the
00:30:12
weekend before yes because you I should
00:30:14
have sent you the link I know you people
00:30:16
were getting it before me you radiant
00:30:18
people the media because everyone had
00:30:20
their comments ready to go and I was
00:30:21
like someone send me the link
00:30:24
um so I wasn't yeah I wasn't getting to
00:30:26
see it until it was being broadcast
00:30:29
um and yeah that was there was a real
00:30:31
big shift in how I felt
00:30:35
um about people because of what I now
00:30:38
got to see yeah which I never got to see
00:30:40
before that must be so frustrating
00:30:41
especially when there's these people
00:30:42
like me on the radio going when she met
00:30:44
Paul
00:30:46
because we've got the foresight of yes
00:30:51
100 way Blinder Than People realize I am
00:30:58
I think that I didn't anticipate was
00:31:00
that
00:31:01
was that but you know it's
00:31:04
um I don't I don't think you can only
00:31:07
work with what you've got at the time
00:31:08
hindsight is a beautiful thing so I I
00:31:10
can't I would I can't say that I had
00:31:12
changed anything because I didn't know
00:31:14
any differently right yeah so I'm gonna
00:31:16
go with your heart which you did yeah
00:31:17
well I guess yeah you get to it's
00:31:21
I mean also like how much of it is even
00:31:22
your heart when you've it's been five
00:31:24
weeks you know like the season before
00:31:26
was eight weeks so they got at least a
00:31:29
few more weeks they went on several
00:31:30
dates with each other like I I had
00:31:33
someone in my lineup
00:31:35
so that final lineup before we went to
00:31:37
home visits I had Jack and Jack and I
00:31:40
hadn't even had a chance to go on a date
00:31:42
that doesn't make sense why would he be
00:31:45
in the lineup is he the um the younger
00:31:48
guy that ended up self-eliminating is
00:31:50
that him right yeah whatever you get
00:31:52
cold feet uh we hadn't spent any time
00:31:56
together
00:31:57
um but I knew that I always liked him I
00:31:58
always remember every time I spoke to
00:32:00
him I was like I like that guy
00:32:01
um and then we had the kiss in the lake
00:32:04
which was outrageous by the way hey you
00:32:06
you had more than one kiss in the lake I
00:32:08
did yeah
00:32:10
yeah it was supposed to be so cold as
00:32:12
well it was a southern yeah it wasn't
00:32:14
warm
00:32:17
my mum and like I remember after we
00:32:20
filmed that date
00:32:22
um someone told me that one of the
00:32:23
producers from the network was like oh
00:32:25
my God that was so steamy and I was like
00:32:27
really I just solution the lake anyway
00:32:30
it did look good
00:32:33
yeah well I just I had to I was watching
00:32:36
the episode with my mum and I was like
00:32:37
oh my God oh my God anyway we had this
00:32:40
time like had a great time and it just
00:32:42
kind of was like
00:32:43
it just felt like quite
00:32:45
um a lot like it was all happening and I
00:32:48
hadn't had a chance to like yeah speak
00:32:50
with him and then
00:32:51
yeah it was just a lot and it was all
00:32:52
quite real and then
00:32:54
um yeah we just like as always we never
00:32:56
no one gets a chance to speak or process
00:32:59
or figure it out and I had to choose
00:33:01
four boys to go to home visits and I
00:33:04
hadn't even been on a date with that guy
00:33:05
so it just didn't seem to make sense no
00:33:07
matter how I was feeling it would have
00:33:08
been out of place and he was a little
00:33:10
protective of his family I don't think
00:33:12
his family were keen on him right right
00:33:14
um unless he was really sure about the
00:33:16
girl so whatever we were feeling we were
00:33:17
feeling but we couldn't be sure about
00:33:19
anything because it was always happening
00:33:20
yeah I suppose it's like heightened
00:33:22
emotions for everyone
00:33:23
um and you're also further down the
00:33:25
process so like sure I had kept it
00:33:27
together that entire process and not
00:33:29
cried until that day and you're at the
00:33:31
end you're you're near the end you're
00:33:33
exhausted
00:33:35
um yeah it's I think this is how reality
00:33:37
TV gets you they wear you down you start
00:33:40
off fresh-faced and you're like happy
00:33:42
ass and you're like I can take on the
00:33:43
world and then by like the end of like
00:33:45
you're in the final week and you're like
00:33:47
exhausted you're so sick of talking
00:33:48
about your feelings you don't even know
00:33:50
what you feel and then I think something
00:33:52
that I struggled with towards the end
00:33:55
because you know how at the start I said
00:33:56
it was kind of
00:33:58
um it helped me keep it light in um
00:34:00
stuff because I didn't super feel crazy
00:34:03
feelings towards anyone instantly but
00:34:06
obviously towards the end you are
00:34:07
starting to get to know people a bit and
00:34:10
you are starting to think about them
00:34:11
romantically because that's the whole
00:34:13
point of this thing and then you're
00:34:14
meeting families and that I think I I I
00:34:18
took video diaries of myself throughout
00:34:20
the whole thing and there's there's a
00:34:22
video diary of me and the hotel crying
00:34:24
because I think I just feel so
00:34:27
overwhelmed by
00:34:29
um
00:34:30
people's feelings and expectations
00:34:32
especially once you've brought the
00:34:33
families in because they're real
00:34:34
families yeah and I loved like they were
00:34:37
all so welcoming and lovely and like I
00:34:40
said I'm a real people person and I do
00:34:41
make connections and I really value them
00:34:43
and to meet all those families and have
00:34:46
such a lovely time that was really
00:34:48
overwhelming for me to then have to like
00:34:50
cut break some hearts yeah yeah oh this
00:34:53
is a funny story I was in the airport
00:34:55
um I think I was flying up north
00:34:58
um so I done my first two home visits or
00:35:01
something anyway
00:35:03
um I done Paul's home visit and then I'd
00:35:04
said goodbye to Paul so I'd met all his
00:35:06
family had like the best time but Paul
00:35:08
wasn't the one and I'd say goodbye to
00:35:10
fall in the next day I was in the
00:35:12
airport and I saw his sister and I was
00:35:14
like oh no and I thought just by chance
00:35:18
yeah just by chance and I thought she'd
00:35:20
seen me and I was like I'm gonna say hi
00:35:22
because like that's just the person I am
00:35:24
like oh good for you I'd pretend to be
00:35:26
reading a text on my phone and so I went
00:35:28
over and I thought the type and I said
00:35:31
hello and she looked after me and she
00:35:33
goes oh my God and I was like how are
00:35:36
you and she was like I'm good how are
00:35:37
you and I was like I'm right because I'd
00:35:39
say goodbye to Paul the night before so
00:35:41
um yeah anyway we we can't wait when you
00:35:44
say you said goodbye the night oh and
00:35:46
the rose ceremony from the show okay and
00:35:50
um and just through our conversation she
00:35:52
was like yeah Paul texted me uh told me
00:35:54
he didn't pick him and I was like yeah
00:35:56
and she was like yeah I teach her back
00:35:57
and was like [ __ ] that girl
00:36:01
well thank you for telling me that but
00:36:04
it's quite funny to say this stuff to
00:36:05
like to my face and I'm also just like
00:36:07
not worried because I'm like yeah like
00:36:10
you're his family of course you're gonna
00:36:11
be protective of that and also in my
00:36:13
position I had to make decisions and I
00:36:15
did what I thought was this at the time
00:36:16
and you know like it's all good yeah
00:36:19
um you were probably overseas when this
00:36:21
happened but a previous series there was
00:36:23
this guy called uh Jordan who was The
00:36:25
Bachelor yeah and he ended up with two
00:36:26
he ended up with these two girls called
00:36:28
Naz and Fleur okay and then uh that was
00:36:31
a while ago yeah like a few a few
00:36:33
seasons ago so you were probably
00:36:34
overseas but
00:36:35
um I think that the ratings on reality
00:36:37
shows that they were a lot higher than
00:36:38
what they are now and yeah by the time
00:36:39
the final episode went to where they
00:36:41
like broke up with her on that day and
00:36:43
it ended up being like a big Nationwide
00:36:45
bombshell thing and yeah the social
00:36:47
media backlash for this guy was just
00:36:50
severeign
00:36:59
like he must have been thinking I didn't
00:37:01
even know these girls it's really into
00:37:03
and like it it's so intense like
00:37:05
for so many reasons there's the
00:37:07
intensity of the people that you're
00:37:09
dealing with on the show right like the
00:37:10
actual men who are there
00:37:12
um because yeah they're invested and
00:37:15
lovely and genuine most of them and then
00:37:17
there's like the intensity of um the
00:37:20
producers and them needing all this [ __ ]
00:37:22
from you like they need you right like
00:37:23
the show centers around you that's
00:37:25
intense and then once the show goes to
00:37:28
air there is the intensity of like
00:37:30
National opinion like people's opinion
00:37:33
who don't know you but yeah it's it's
00:37:35
also is everyone else who is kind of
00:37:38
brought into it like all of our friends
00:37:39
and all of our family and then it just
00:37:41
kind of ripples out like then you'll
00:37:43
meet this person once and that person
00:37:44
once and so all those people have
00:37:45
opinions and it is so much and I
00:37:49
remember
00:37:50
feeling
00:37:52
pressure in certain ways and thinking
00:37:55
holy [ __ ] like if I'm feeling this
00:37:57
pressure and if I'm feeling this way
00:37:59
about what I'm thinking about right now
00:38:00
I can't imagine what it would be like to
00:38:04
actually be like um Lucina last season
00:38:06
because she oh yeah she didn't pick
00:38:09
someone and then I don't know what was
00:38:11
going on but she had to do the reunion
00:38:13
and I think if I had to do the reunion
00:38:16
after
00:38:17
I'd already broken up with Hamish I that
00:38:20
would have been so nerve-wracking
00:38:22
um so I totally appreciate how
00:38:24
overwhelming it can all be in everyone's
00:38:27
opinions and no one actually knows right
00:38:29
what goes on
00:38:30
um unless you tell them and no one can
00:38:33
really appreciate it for what it is so
00:38:34
you just have to know yourself and like
00:38:36
stay true and honestly don't don't sweat
00:38:40
the small stuff would you have you been
00:38:42
burnt by a reality TV or would you do it
00:38:44
again what if um what if your friend
00:38:46
Sarah said I've been tapped on the
00:38:47
shoulder to be the next what would you
00:38:48
say to her I'd say yes do it really yeah
00:38:52
um yeah I would I definitely haven't
00:38:54
been burnt by it um I I had a really
00:38:57
great time
00:38:58
um overall like epic experience and same
00:39:01
thing to do and I've made some amazing
00:39:03
friends out of it
00:39:04
um I recommend it to anybody who
00:39:07
uh is really sure of themselves and has
00:39:09
a thick skin
00:39:11
um and just likes to go and do some cool
00:39:13
[ __ ] basically
00:39:15
um I do think I had a good run but I I
00:39:19
don't think that's by chance I think
00:39:20
that it's due to my nature and it's due
00:39:22
to how I acted and how I hold myself
00:39:25
that of of course I had a good run and
00:39:26
of course
00:39:27
um you know I wasn't produced badly
00:39:30
um so it's not great for everyone and
00:39:34
you also can't control what happens to
00:39:35
you on the show so fortunately for me I
00:39:38
didn't have
00:39:39
on the show didn't have many dramas with
00:39:41
people acting out and me having to deal
00:39:43
with that on national TV and things like
00:39:45
that
00:39:46
um so yeah in that sense I had a good
00:39:48
run in terms of no one else did anything
00:39:50
super out the gate
00:39:52
um that I had to deal with but
00:39:55
um I would recommend it it's so fun it's
00:39:58
so fun all right one thing um yeah about
00:40:01
that show you know how you always talk
00:40:02
about your feelings yes oh my God what
00:40:05
do you like quite a good communicator in
00:40:06
relationships normally like yeah yeah I
00:40:09
really well I think I am um I really
00:40:11
value communication I feel like most
00:40:15
negative interactions or arguments or um
00:40:18
disagreements usually center around a
00:40:21
miscommunication it's usually like Oh I
00:40:23
thought you meant this or you and then
00:40:25
and
00:40:26
so if if they can just speak about it
00:40:28
get it out and like not even straight
00:40:31
away if we can just simmer on it and
00:40:32
then talk about it I just think um
00:40:33
communication is key so yes I do think
00:40:36
I'm quite a communicator
00:40:38
um and I think that was probably really
00:40:39
helpful for the type of show that I did
00:40:40
because you know I wouldn't do yeah I
00:40:43
wouldn't do reality TV again for love
00:40:45
but I would in my Meredith feels like
00:40:48
this no way could not pay me you could
00:40:50
not pay me a billion dollars to do that
00:40:52
tell you what nobody no no one comes off
00:40:55
that show looking good it's almost like
00:40:56
they see I suppose you go on The
00:40:59
Bachelorette or the bachelor it's like
00:41:00
random like it's like they they they you
00:41:02
get the bachelor Bachelorette and get a
00:41:04
bunch of guys or girls and hopefully
00:41:05
there's someone there that you click
00:41:07
with if not no big deal Meredith it's
00:41:10
almost like they they go right this is
00:41:12
what Lexi's into Let's get someone
00:41:14
completely opposite oh 100 I think it's
00:41:17
so unfair yeah they're not actually
00:41:19
truly matchmaking I think a couple of
00:41:21
them get it right and then the other
00:41:23
ones it's pure entertainment yeah yeah
00:41:24
and this is what they do so what I'll
00:41:26
learned through my show is when they
00:41:28
cast they have people called contenders
00:41:30
and people called characters so some
00:41:33
people are cast as characters so they're
00:41:35
not relative or like they're not related
00:41:37
to me or what I like or possibly in
00:41:39
these other shows that don't make sense
00:41:41
at all but they're for TV and
00:41:43
entertainment value I mean maybe it's
00:41:45
like this in radio and then they have
00:41:46
contenders which are actually relevant
00:41:49
um could have a chance blah blah blah
00:41:51
and So Married at First Sight I'm like
00:41:52
you're just messing up people's lives
00:41:54
because they do some really good matches
00:41:55
and others they definitely do just so
00:41:58
that people make drama and good TV I
00:42:01
guess yeah good TV is questionable yeah
00:42:03
TV that's yeah I know I I think it's I
00:42:06
think it's good it's the shittiest
00:42:12
it's truly is an experiment like human
00:42:14
nature experiment yeah it's just that
00:42:16
these poor people have to sacrifice like
00:42:18
a chunk of their life and you know in
00:42:21
the UK it is ruthless over there with
00:42:23
like gossip and like gossip mags and all
00:42:25
the tablets yeah see oh my God it's like
00:42:27
you know and they have issues with
00:42:28
suicide and things so yeah my mum was a
00:42:30
little concerned with about
00:42:32
um just the effect that this whole thing
00:42:34
can have just being my mum and
00:42:36
everything
00:42:37
um but I I wasn't were you no Sarah
00:42:40
wasn't worried either
00:42:42
um I just went out there and enjoyed
00:42:43
myself well I think I think that's your
00:42:44
attitude it just that's to go with the
00:42:45
flow attitude yeah yeah so what's next
00:42:48
for you you told me that after we did
00:42:49
the podcast today you're starting a new
00:42:50
course what are you what are you doing
00:42:51
well I've actually already started so um
00:42:53
I went back to school last year I'm just
00:42:57
doing a graduate diploma in digital
00:42:59
design so I worked as a branded
00:43:01
marketing manager um since I kind of
00:43:04
started my career and yeah I just need
00:43:06
to level up and I want to and I have a
00:43:08
big plan and to myself and yeah I just
00:43:11
kind of
00:43:12
um getting those abilities under my belt
00:43:14
and yeah that's kind of what I'm
00:43:16
focusing at the moment says and I have a
00:43:18
few projects and um yeah just gonna keep
00:43:21
enjoying my life yeah I'm sure you will
00:43:24
I mean Instagram is not real life but
00:43:26
yeah I I even wondered if you had a job
00:43:28
I do work I know it looks like this is
00:43:32
at the beach she's on a boat she's up a
00:43:35
mountain she's in a lake I like to enjoy
00:43:37
my lifetime Life Is For Living
00:43:40
um yeah I do work so I'm studying
00:43:42
full-time and I also work um contract on
00:43:44
the side right yeah which is good so I'm
00:43:46
still working
00:43:47
um but yeah we do have a lot of fun yeah
00:43:49
I think I think a lot of people think we
00:43:51
don't have jobs but we both do and we
00:43:52
both um yeah we work hard
00:43:54
um but like I said you've got to enjoy
00:43:56
every day not just the big stuff and
00:43:57
you've got to get that balance right as
00:43:59
well oh everything is balanced the older
00:44:01
I get the more I'm like
00:44:03
um and have you have you found um the
00:44:04
last couple of years with covert like uh
00:44:06
you mentioned before that you've done a
00:44:07
heap of travel you've lived in Canada
00:44:08
you've lived in the UK
00:44:10
um have you found it hard being rooted
00:44:12
on the ground here in New Zealand yeah
00:44:13
we've it's been a big transition phase
00:44:16
for us I think Sarah also lived overseas
00:44:17
so the two of us are having these like
00:44:20
going riding the wave at the same time
00:44:22
we take turns to have meltdowns um it's
00:44:26
definitely been an interesting
00:44:28
um transition to come home for a number
00:44:31
of reasons sometimes
00:44:33
I don't know like I guess we feel like
00:44:35
we didn't come home by choice
00:44:37
um but that's not to say I wouldn't have
00:44:39
come home soon anyway had covert
00:44:41
happened um so because I lived overseas
00:44:43
for seven years and whereabouts London
00:44:47
Canada yeah so I was in Sydney they went
00:44:49
to Japan then I went to uh France then I
00:44:52
went to England then I went to Canada
00:44:54
all right yeah and then just traveled
00:44:56
kind of to countries what were you doing
00:44:58
just like normal office jobs yeah so
00:45:00
Sydney is fresh out of uni and I was
00:45:02
like an intern at a fashion PR Company
00:45:04
and then in Japan I taught English
00:45:07
um in France I was a liver Nene and in
00:45:10
the UK I continued my like real job
00:45:13
nurse you could say and I went back into
00:45:15
Brandon marketing for a few years and
00:45:17
then in Canada I was a ski bum and just
00:45:19
worked ski bam jobs
00:45:21
um so yeah those are my array of random
00:45:24
things that I've done in my life
00:45:26
um it makes life so interesting though
00:45:27
doesn't it it so does and I think
00:45:30
because I've been so many different
00:45:31
places and met so many different people
00:45:33
I it's really great for people like just
00:45:36
people because you can relate to a lot
00:45:38
of people in a lot of ways
00:45:39
um but I wouldn't change it for anything
00:45:42
because you you come home and there's
00:45:44
like two sets of people there's people
00:45:46
who have never left and they're married
00:45:48
and they have kids and that sounds
00:45:51
wonderful and I am definitely like you
00:45:53
know going in that direction now
00:45:55
um but then there's like the other set
00:45:57
which is more like us and we're like
00:45:58
we've come home and we've lived a
00:46:01
different kind of life and um and so
00:46:03
yeah the people who are at home who
00:46:05
haven't left are like oh my God like you
00:46:07
guys have done so much that's so
00:46:08
exciting um and then it's just you want
00:46:11
what everyone else has right because
00:46:13
it's pros and cons it's like um because
00:46:16
I was busy cat you're coughing up my
00:46:18
radio career doing breakfast hours which
00:46:20
does mean making a lot of sacrifices
00:46:21
yeah my sister on the other hand she
00:46:23
went overseas met her husband out here
00:46:25
but they were late on the property
00:46:26
ladder yes and she's like well you've
00:46:27
got a house and you've got this and we
00:46:29
can't afford it it's really pros and
00:46:31
cons it is it is and it's um I wouldn't
00:46:34
change what I've done for the world but
00:46:36
you know it does mean we've come home to
00:46:37
this really screwed property Market
00:46:40
um we're dealing with covert
00:46:42
um yeah it's a different time and yeah
00:46:45
we don't have you know um partners and
00:46:49
kids and and all those things but
00:46:50
that'll come
00:46:51
um and I I've my life so far has been
00:46:54
amazing I feel do you have you do you
00:46:56
feel like you've got the um the travel
00:46:57
bag out of your system like are you are
00:46:59
you you don't know if I'll even get it
00:47:01
out of my system I still have extreme
00:47:04
Wanderlust moments and days oh my God
00:47:08
and I get reminded of things I'm really
00:47:09
big on smells so things will trigger my
00:47:13
memories Big Time certain smells will
00:47:15
take me right back like certain cleaning
00:47:17
products remind me of certain places
00:47:19
It's So Random it smells like a hospital
00:47:22
no it's just like like a certain soap
00:47:24
will remind me of the soap that was like
00:47:25
at my school in Japan or like as someone
00:47:28
is wearing a perfume and it reminds me
00:47:29
of like someone I lived with in London
00:47:31
or like it's crazy and I go right back
00:47:34
and it makes my whole body's like oh my
00:47:36
God I want to go I miss kind of the
00:47:39
wonderless and the feeling and the
00:47:41
exploring um but it's just kind of
00:47:43
retraining the mind I guess and um doing
00:47:45
a bit of that in New Zealand so um kind
00:47:49
of making it work with what we've got
00:47:51
and and the pro as well is now that
00:47:52
we're home we get to spend time with
00:47:54
family which we just it makes us so so
00:47:56
happy I get to see my mum way more
00:47:59
regularly we live an hour from our
00:48:01
grandparents I live yeah very close to
00:48:03
my dad two of my brothers live in the
00:48:04
same town you know my other brothers
00:48:06
came and spent the whole new year's here
00:48:08
with me so to be home again and closer
00:48:11
to those people that I truly love is the
00:48:13
best part of coming home yeah and worth
00:48:15
it are your um your parents still
00:48:16
together no no my mum raised me um so
00:48:20
yeah we um uh I was born in palmy and
00:48:24
she was at Uni there so yeah we lived in
00:48:26
uni Flats there's some crack out photos
00:48:30
well I don't know if I'd say I'm from
00:48:33
palmy but I guess technically I am um I
00:48:35
was born there lived there till I was
00:48:36
10. yeah whereabouts are you from So
00:48:39
like um Riverdale area Riverdale
00:48:41
oh yes I um we lived on Ferguson Street
00:48:45
and I went to um West End
00:48:58
[Applause]
00:48:59
yeah okay um and then when did you leave
00:49:01
palmy
00:49:03
um I left uh about 20 years ago yeah I
00:49:06
went to the station there called 2xs oh
00:49:08
I remember two weeks yeah yeah a small
00:49:10
world yeah it's fine yeah it's a nice
00:49:13
place
00:49:14
I think like everywhere everywhere is
00:49:17
becoming up and coming you know like
00:49:19
everything is starting to shift and
00:49:20
evolve and get cool little cafes and you
00:49:24
know with this housing market thing I
00:49:26
feel like so many people are starting to
00:49:28
shun like true City living and
00:49:31
everyone's going outwards and like a
00:49:33
nicer lifestyle and bit of balance and
00:49:35
stuff like that yeah have you given up
00:49:36
on home ownership or do you one day hope
00:49:38
to no we haven't given up we'll probably
00:49:40
buy together Sarah and I
00:49:42
um that's kind of the way it seems to be
00:49:44
at the moment definitely haven't given
00:49:46
up absolutely well you've got a sweet
00:49:47
sit up at the moment it's uh you your
00:49:50
best friend Sarah two other girls on the
00:49:51
flat I know this house is great we're
00:49:53
only two blocks off the beach and like
00:49:55
yeah there's so much sand in our house
00:49:57
and there's so much sand in my car and I
00:49:59
just love it because it means we live at
00:50:00
the beach and I'm like yes this is what
00:50:02
I always wanted you and me are very
00:50:04
opposite like I I like the idea of the
00:50:07
beach but then I get back in my car
00:50:09
afterwards and there's sand there for
00:50:10
days yeah the expectation versus reality
00:50:13
yeah you are I do I love cities though I
00:50:16
love love cities like I I actually
00:50:19
really like Auckland and I know people
00:50:20
hate Auckland but I lived in Auckland
00:50:22
for a couple years and loved it
00:50:24
absolutely loved it and every time I go
00:50:25
back I love it I don't know I just
00:50:28
there's more happening there than
00:50:29
anywhere else in New Zealand
00:50:31
um in a lot of ways and and even just
00:50:34
population because I'm such a person I
00:50:35
like being somewhere that's humming yeah
00:50:38
um but I also like being at the beach
00:50:40
I'm just a mess of oxymoron in a lot of
00:50:42
ways I like all the things all the time
00:50:44
so I just yeah I always enjoy a visit in
00:50:47
Auckland geez we've had very little uh
00:50:49
running chat and um oh yes okay today's
00:50:51
today's podcast but it's been great it's
00:50:53
been wonderful getting an insight into
00:50:54
into you as a person and into the um The
00:50:57
Bachelorette as well so how much are you
00:50:58
running now that you've got the half
00:50:59
marathon done the the running so that
00:51:02
was August last year did the running
00:51:03
drop off completely exactly yeah um well
00:51:06
no I would say that the distances
00:51:08
dropped off drastically
00:51:10
um but I still ran regularly
00:51:14
um I said after the marathon I was like
00:51:16
right half Marathon sorry after my half
00:51:18
I was like right never doing that again
00:51:19
but I just feel like I probably will
00:51:23
um I'm a sucker for a challenge like if
00:51:25
someone's like this let's see I'll be
00:51:28
like no and then next time we're like
00:51:29
fine
00:51:30
um but Sarah ran a quarter when I ran my
00:51:33
half so I feel like she's gonna wanna
00:51:35
run a half soon so maybe I'll run a half
00:51:37
with her yeah we can train together and
00:51:39
stuff well now that you've done one like
00:51:40
you know that you know that your body oh
00:51:42
it's pretty incredible like if you just
00:51:46
slowly build it was really interesting
00:51:48
for me as well if I just slowly build on
00:51:51
my case and like speed and stuff you can
00:51:54
do it yeah I think people think it's
00:51:56
something you can either do or you can't
00:51:57
do and I think a lot of people go from
00:52:00
nothing to trying to run 10K and then
00:52:02
they're like oh my God that was the
00:52:03
hardest thing in the world I'm not doing
00:52:04
it but yeah well you just tried to run
00:52:07
10K after doing nothing so if you just
00:52:09
slowly build it's so achievable yeah
00:52:11
absolutely and just um
00:52:13
oh your friend Sarah's just bought out a
00:52:15
middle
00:52:16
this is my half marathon proof or the
00:52:17
city to sift middle Okay so
00:52:20
I said because you were signed up even
00:52:22
though the event didn't go ahead I still
00:52:24
ran that weekend yeah oh that's cool
00:52:26
yeah
00:52:27
it's cool it's got the middle everyone's
00:52:28
a sucker for me alone
00:52:30
we're all kids again
00:52:34
how long did you wear it around for
00:52:35
after you got it only about three weeks
00:52:39
well you're in these things okay well um
00:52:42
we're in with some um quick fire running
00:52:43
questions oh God okay what do you what
00:52:45
do you listen to when you run oh usually
00:52:48
podcasts
00:52:50
um and I just go between like um serious
00:52:53
kind of like businessy ones that like
00:52:55
give me inspo or like real chitchat
00:52:58
funny girl ones right yeah yeah I'm just
00:53:01
saying a lot a lot of people love they
00:53:02
find it really weird that I listen to
00:53:03
spoken word uh when I write rather than
00:53:05
music but um I like it it feels like
00:53:07
you're getting [ __ ] done yeah same I
00:53:09
feel like I'm using that time to
00:53:10
actually like do something
00:53:12
um yeah but sometimes I'm not into a
00:53:14
podcast and I will play just like real
00:53:16
unsu music do you find honor you don't
00:53:17
listen to music when I sometimes I do I
00:53:19
like speed my speed is sometimes
00:53:21
dependent on like what music I'm
00:53:22
listening yeah right
00:53:25
um well it does that yeah the um the
00:53:26
beat or the Cadence of a music here
00:53:28
definitely works
00:53:29
um what's your favorite place to run did
00:53:30
you have a favorite route
00:53:31
I love running
00:53:34
um I do a lot of pavement running just
00:53:36
because I live yeah like this but um I
00:53:39
love getting into the bush and running
00:53:41
like real simple Trails like just not
00:53:43
even Trails but um just like it's nice
00:53:46
to be out in off the road
00:53:48
um there's a really nice track and Caldo
00:53:50
down behind the golf course like So
00:53:52
Beautiful by this River and I just was
00:53:54
like as I I literally like Skip Along
00:53:57
like looking around like oh my God this
00:53:59
is so beautiful and it's you know we
00:54:01
live here it is we're very lucky man
00:54:03
you're like you're not far from the
00:54:04
mount do you run around there or do you
00:54:05
sort of I like running around the
00:54:06
mountain I
00:54:08
have not ran up the mount I don't know
00:54:10
if that's something I want to do
00:54:11
although Cody did suggest it and I did
00:54:13
say I would so I'll probably run up them
00:54:15
out soon yeah
00:54:16
um yeah um do you have a favorite show
00:54:18
what are you running
00:54:20
um I started with Nikes and then I went
00:54:22
to
00:54:23
um what then I moved to New Balance
00:54:27
um but I need another new pair do you
00:54:28
have a recommendation for me actually I
00:54:30
love I like how old are you 32. yeah I'm
00:54:33
in a pier called hocus which I'm okay
00:54:35
very very ugly they're never going to
00:54:36
want a beauty course but they offer so
00:54:38
much support okay if you're gonna if
00:54:40
you're like a big run overseas like that
00:54:41
I don't know like the New York Marathon
00:54:43
or something yeah you know when you wear
00:54:45
a pair of shoes how you notice other
00:54:46
people wearing the same yes yeah you
00:54:48
notice a lot of like middle-aged Runners
00:54:50
wearing hoses so maybe you're not ready
00:54:52
for the hotel okay maybe I'll so bit
00:54:55
tight on the hook is yeah
00:54:57
um but yeah if you have any other
00:54:58
recommends let me know because I need a
00:54:59
new running shoe because mine are
00:55:01
absolutely screwed yeah it is amazing
00:55:02
how fast shoes expire when you run that
00:55:05
much yeah yeah totally you must go
00:55:06
through shoes very often every couple of
00:55:09
months I guess oh my god
00:55:10
um how far do you run every month Eureka
00:55:13
um
00:55:14
between 300 and 400k a month oh my God
00:55:17
you're a full running psycho
00:55:22
um okay uh do you prefer to run alone or
00:55:25
with a crew I enjoy both but I probably
00:55:28
for longer distances with people yeah it
00:55:31
just keeps my spirits High I think um
00:55:34
houses the time yes it passes the time
00:55:36
yeah when I run with Cody we just change
00:55:37
it the whole time yeah
00:55:39
um and when Sarah and I run together we
00:55:42
talk the whole time as well
00:55:43
um so I'd probably if I had to choose
00:55:45
I'd say with do you prefer hot or cold
00:55:48
yes I can't run in the heat like I live
00:55:51
in the mount now and Sarah's like do you
00:55:53
want to go for a run and I'm like no
00:55:54
only if it's before eight o'clock or
00:55:57
after 8 P.M I I can't heck the heat I
00:56:00
tried to do a running club at 6 00 p.m
00:56:02
on a Monday never went back so hot
00:56:05
although insane there let's be honest
00:56:07
like you you know you live in Bay of
00:56:08
Plenty so June July last year when you
00:56:10
were doing your big training runs for
00:56:11
the half marathon it's not cold cold is
00:56:13
it no it wasn't you're not wearing a
00:56:15
beanie and gloves no I don't know but
00:56:16
although I did surprise myself when I
00:56:18
lived in London I would still go out
00:56:19
like December January Feb right I ran
00:56:21
all through that and I just had like
00:56:23
what I needed to stay home oh I love it
00:56:25
over there at that time of year it you
00:56:28
just get used to it and then you start
00:56:29
to kind of like it and um do you have a
00:56:32
go-to meal the night before a big run
00:56:34
you said your friend Cody was helping
00:56:35
you out with your nutrition what are the
00:56:37
advice he was kind of more guiding me on
00:56:39
what to eat the morning of in enduring
00:56:41
so like you know the sweets for like is
00:56:43
it the glucose that gives us well I was
00:56:47
just buying like jet planes oh yeah
00:56:48
they're good um yeah are they good what
00:56:50
do you eating um yeah I'll take chip
00:56:51
plans with me or you have these gels but
00:56:53
the gels are disgusting yeah I've never
00:56:55
found a gel that's good that you like
00:56:57
yeah yeah because look at this thing as
00:56:59
well in a bottle and it was like I think
00:57:01
it was like electrolytes and salts and
00:57:03
stuff and I actually really liked it
00:57:04
tastes like sherbet he was always like
00:57:06
sorry it's strong and I was like I like
00:57:07
it you must have heard the term Runners
00:57:10
High have you hit the 10 Runners high
00:57:11
before as in the high that you get from
00:57:13
completing a run or doing a run yeah it
00:57:15
can be either or like is it real or a
00:57:18
myth the runner's height I think it's
00:57:19
real yeah
00:57:21
um but I as you know I'm kind of that
00:57:23
type of person anyway like I love to
00:57:24
love [ __ ] so
00:57:26
um like when I did the half marathon I
00:57:28
was so
00:57:29
stoked I was so so stoked we did it
00:57:31
really early and oh my God we did it so
00:57:33
early we started at 4 30 in the morning
00:57:35
because Cody had work at like some time
00:57:39
and I didn't want to run it this other
00:57:41
day it was like their only opportunity
00:57:42
so we're like oh well off we go 4 30 in
00:57:44
the morning
00:57:45
um and then we cracked a bear afterwards
00:57:47
and I was just like loving like at like
00:57:49
7 30 a.m oh yeah definitely I had to
00:57:53
celebrate I was so so I reckon it's real
00:57:56
for the round is high and also there'll
00:57:57
be so much going on in our bodies as
00:57:59
well and you know you really you really
00:58:02
prepare for it in a lot of ways mentally
00:58:04
and physically and so like it's a huge
00:58:06
achievement I think yeah well that's how
00:58:08
I felt I agree then there's sometimes I
00:58:10
find I get to run as high like during a
00:58:13
run okay you feel amazing and then other
00:58:14
times the whole run will be awful from
00:58:17
start to finish but then you get back
00:58:18
home take your shoes off yeah crack open
00:58:21
that beer or get in the shower whatever
00:58:22
and you think I'm so glad I did that yes
00:58:25
yes and I think it's a um I think
00:58:27
something I do enjoy about running is
00:58:29
that
00:58:29
I can just go do it I don't need anyone
00:58:31
to help me I don't need equipment except
00:58:33
shoes really
00:58:34
um I can just go I have ability like I
00:58:37
have a full working body like so
00:58:39
fortunate and it's just you can just get
00:58:41
out there and go no matter how you feel
00:58:42
you're right because sometimes oh my God
00:58:44
some runs I just run the whole thing
00:58:46
being like I hate this but then if it's
00:58:49
normal yeah it's just good days and bad
00:58:51
days right so absolutely I believe in
00:58:53
the runner's height I've experienced the
00:58:55
runners high and do you think um running
00:58:57
will always be some sort of part of your
00:58:58
life I think so I think I'll always run
00:59:00
it um makes me feel like it's this thing
00:59:04
that that I have where I can go and find
00:59:06
some sanity yeah I've definitely I
00:59:09
remember in London I was fuming about
00:59:13
something that had just happened and it
00:59:14
wasn't I didn't get home until nine
00:59:15
o'clock at night I was furious and I
00:59:18
just put I just got dressed I didn't
00:59:19
even think use my brain I just got
00:59:21
dressed and I ran like and I ran way
00:59:24
further than I normally went and I was
00:59:26
charging and I just that was the first
00:59:28
time I ever felt like I'd used running
00:59:30
to my advantage as an outlet to vent
00:59:32
yeah oh my God and I just like run it
00:59:34
off and then I just went to bed and I
00:59:36
was so tired that it was good at helping
00:59:38
me get to sleep so
00:59:39
um I think I always run it kind of holds
00:59:41
that place where it's something I know
00:59:42
that I can do and is there when I need
00:59:44
it and it's just great for Fitness as
00:59:46
well yeah hey well thanks for your time
00:59:48
today and thanks for sharing your story
00:59:49
thank you for coming thanks for inviting
00:59:51
me I don't even think I've banged the
00:59:54
table once I've
00:59:56
um I'll tell you what it's the it's the
00:59:58
weirdest thing because I've been um I've
01:00:00
been so nervous about this not not you
01:00:02
as a person I'm very very relaxed around
01:00:03
you just about the whole thing yeah you
01:00:06
know it's um but I think it's good to be
01:00:07
scared yes I feel like um I feel like
01:00:09
that's like a Lexi Lexi Brown sort of
01:00:11
thing yes it is do something that fries
01:00:13
yeah but do it anyway yeah
01:00:15
um well congratulations and I'm proud of
01:00:17
you for like getting out there and doing
01:00:19
it yeah after The Bachelorette you did
01:00:21
the radio circuit thing so you know you
01:00:22
know how radio works like you go in for
01:00:24
an interview yeah if it's a pre-recorded
01:00:26
one it might be 10 minutes then it'll be
01:00:28
cut down to five minutes and
01:00:29
everything's kind of done almost
01:00:32
negatively you think okay if someone's
01:00:34
not watching The Bachelorette will they
01:00:36
still find this interesting so you edit
01:00:37
it as short as possible for that so it's
01:00:40
nice to sit here and um not have to
01:00:42
watch the clock yeah and just uh sit and
01:00:44
listen to your speak and get your
01:00:45
stories you've enjoyed it because this
01:00:47
must be a really big shift for you after
01:00:49
doing radio for so long right and this
01:00:52
is the first kind of of um part of your
01:00:54
of a new Direction
01:00:56
how often um will your podcast be
01:00:59
available once a week once a week once a
01:01:01
week initially yeah nice I mean just
01:01:03
just yeah see how it goes see how it
01:01:05
goes but I feel like I'm learning a new
01:01:06
skill as well it's like yeah even though
01:01:08
I've been broadcasting for so many years
01:01:09
yeah yeah it's a very different sort of
01:01:11
style of broadcasting yeah definitely
01:01:13
and I I think it's really interesting as
01:01:15
we become adults I think adults often
01:01:18
stop learning yeah and if there's
01:01:20
something that they don't know how to do
01:01:22
they might give it one crack and if it's
01:01:24
hard they will just think they can't do
01:01:26
it or don't have the skills yeah
01:01:28
um so I think it's in fact when adults
01:01:32
go out and do new things and stick to it
01:01:34
and actually kind of like get that skill
01:01:36
under there yeah so well done yeah I I
01:01:38
agree and I think as you get older turn
01:01:40
more established on what you're doing
01:01:41
you don't want to look like a fool or
01:01:43
you don't want to fail at something yeah
01:01:44
yes that's what people worry about and
01:01:46
you have to try your hardest to not give
01:01:49
a [ __ ] what other people think you've
01:01:50
got to literally like focus on yourself
01:01:52
because when you realize that other
01:01:53
people don't actually think that much
01:01:55
about you yes but just thinking about
01:01:56
themselves yes then once you do that
01:01:59
it's quite liberating so liberating
01:02:01
especially like and I'm sure you have
01:02:03
experienced this in radio and I
01:02:05
experienced this because of the show is
01:02:07
yeah you it's this big cycle of like um
01:02:10
people give you all of their opinions
01:02:11
and they don't even know you and so you
01:02:13
get suddenly hyper aware all these
01:02:15
people have these opinions so you start
01:02:16
to think everyone does but actually not
01:02:18
that many people actually do and so then
01:02:20
you kind of come right again and just
01:02:22
think not actually that many people
01:02:24
think about it and even the ones that do
01:02:25
and have really strong opinions it
01:02:27
doesn't matter like who gives a [ __ ]
01:02:29
then you know yeah and it's I think
01:02:32
you're right liberating is the word it's
01:02:34
like a hard process to go through caring
01:02:36
and then you get out the other side and
01:02:38
you're like better off because you've
01:02:40
just learned so much more about like
01:02:42
what matters like and who matters I
01:02:45
guess I think yeah yeah
01:02:47
um absolutely lovely to sit down with
01:02:49
you today yes you too thank you for
01:02:50
having me and what's your um well you
01:02:53
had me I'm sitting at your table yeah
01:02:54
with Builders outside I know sorry about
01:02:57
sorry about this guys the nail gun very
01:02:59
close
01:03:00
um yeah thank you so much um best of
01:03:01
luck for 2022. thank you your birthday
01:03:04
in August have you got any plans lined
01:03:06
up yet you know me there's a lot in the
01:03:08
pipeline
01:03:09
you follow Lexi Brown on Instagram for
01:03:13
her birthday month in August what's your
01:03:14
handle again miss Lexi Brown thanks so
01:03:17
much for your time thank you Dom wow
01:03:19
you're still here thank you thank you
01:03:21
thank you thank you I can't believe it
01:03:22
you are a true endurance person thank
01:03:25
you very much you made it right to the
01:03:27
very end I hope you enjoyed that that
01:03:28
was Miss Lexi Brown from The
01:03:30
Bachelorette on tvnz2 last year great
01:03:32
human good friend of mine thank you so
01:03:34
much for being here really appreciate it
01:03:36
and uh hopefully we'll see you next time
01:03:38
for runners only with dom Harvey
