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You're one of the three godfathers of
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AI, the most cited scientist on Google
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Scholar, but I also read that you're an
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introvert. It begs the question, why
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have you decided to step out of your
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introversion?
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>> Because I have something to say. I've
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become more hopeful that there is a
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technical solution to build AI that will
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not harm people and could actually help
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us. Now, how do we get there? Well,
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we'll go through that.
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>> But is it fair to say that you're one of
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the reasons that this software exists
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>> amongst others? Yes.
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>> Do you have any regrets? Yes, I should
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have seen this coming much earlier, but
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I didn't pay much attention to the
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potentially catastrophic risks. But my
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turning point was when Chad GPT came and
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also with my grandson. I realized that
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it wasn't clear if he would have a life
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20 years from now because we're starting
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to see AI systems that are resisting
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being shut down. We've seen pretty
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serious cyber attacks and people
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becoming emotionally attached to their
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chatbot with some tragic consequences.
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>> Presumably, they're just going to get
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safer and safer, though. So the data
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shows that it's been in the other
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direction. It's showing bad behavior
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that goes against our instructions.
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>> So of all the existential risks that sit
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there before you on these cards. Is
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there one that you're most concerned
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about in the near term?
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>> So there is a risk that doesn't get
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discussed enough and it could happen
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pretty quickly and that is but let me
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throw a bit of optimism into all this
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because there are things that can be
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done.
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>> So if you could speak to the top 10 CEOs
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of some of the biggest companies in
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America, what would you say to them? So
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I have several things I can say
