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You're what? >> Sad at how the A series phone. >> It's not like you'd ever buy it anyway.
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>> I used to have a I used to be an A series guy, not a main Pixel guy. >> I think base Pixel's got to make moves
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this year. >> Agreed. Part agreed. >> In what way? >> They're just tanking for a rebuild.
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>> I saw that. >> They want to get trapped. >> Yo, what is up people of the internet?
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Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm
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Marquez. >> I'm Andrew. >> And I'm David. This week we've got the
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Pixel 9A uh 10A, sorry, almost the same thing. 10A, a random March Apple event that has been announced. We'll have some
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thoughts, a Ring doorbell update. You might have heard us crash out about that last week. And also video on Apple
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Podcasts, and we're going to wrap it up with a game from Adam. Also, make sure you subscribe. Just just
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just before we get into it at all, uh we saw a comment on the last episode that said you could still hype us. That was
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They've been saying it since we hit 500,000. So, for a couple episodes, >> we're either wrong about the
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requirements for being hyped or you guys are like breaking YouTube. >> YouTube has already forgotten about
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hyping. >> Yeah. Let's Let's make sure we're far enough clear past 500K that we're
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definitely past 500K. So, make sure you subscribe if you haven't already. And if
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if you do see a hype button, let me know. Like, tweet it at us. >> Press it first.
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>> Yeah. Press press it and then screen record it and then send it to us. >> Click it. I want to start off this
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episode with I' I've been thinking of like a segment we can do to start >> an apology to Xfinity.
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>> That is never happening. I do have I'll have a very brief update on that later,
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but um >> I was thinking of an idea and I sent this all to you guys so you can all
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brainstorm it for future episodes, but like a really fast five minute segment to start every episode off with. Um so
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my conclusion was a little segment we're going to try called Did they even test
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this? because people really liked our crash outs last week and kind of they love when we complain about super random
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things that we don't are so minuscule but that frustrate us and there's so
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many >> that's like my entire personality. >> It is I this stem from me wanting to do
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a seg an episode where all of us record every time a piece of tech does something we don't want it to do during
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the day. >> And I think it's way more than you would think. Um but this can be we can slowly
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write them all down. But anyways, this is just going to be a very obvious thing that is wrong in a piece
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of tech that you have and every week we'll do one, whoever wants to do it. I'm going to start mine with
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>> I need my phone here. >> Um, in Slack, >> you know, Slack has plenty of issues by
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itself. >> Slackessions. >> Yeah. So, if you go into Slack and go to
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write a message and use the emote button either to react or to just put an emote,
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>> there's an emoj button. >> Emo >> emoji button. >> Emoji.
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>> You'll see this list of icons that are the categories for what all of the
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different because we're at hundreds and hundreds of emojis now, right? One of
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these icons is a heart. >> Mhm. >> What do you think would be under the
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heart icon category? >> Different types of hearts, >> body parts. >> It is actually the symbols category.
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>> Oh, what? There's not a single heart. >> What >> in the symbols category, which is
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>> why does heart denote a symbol? >> Well, it is a symbol, but not that kind
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of symbol. >> Yeah, it's when the heart is one of the most used reaction slash like emotes
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probably most people use. >> Yeah. >> Uh you think they'd have that right, but
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I've been tricked by this so many times where I go to like heart one of someone's posts in Slack and I get this.
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Uh, one thing we found that's kind of weird about it is I believe on like on
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desktop in my Slack, it's actually a piece symbol instead. >> Uh, >> which makes more sense.
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>> That does make more sense. >> So, this may possibly be just a weird
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mobile thing they didn't fix. >> Yeah, I'm checking on my >> is that on my phone as well? Yeah.
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>> And then I go to press heart and I get ATM biohazard sign uh yin-yang arrows
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used. Hopefully, it's in your frequently used. >> Uh, it's not always, but anyways.
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>> Wow. >> I use our HDR emote way too much emoji. Um, but yeah, so that is my um I want to
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keep it brief. That is my Did they even test this? >> The heart category with no hearts in it.
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>> Yeah, we should. Slack, if you're listening to this, maybe update that. I
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have a feeling there's a lot of things that we're going to find that the
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companies >> Yes. >> kind of just forgot about >> and then we reservice it and they go,
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"Oh, yeah." And then they can just they can just fix it. >> Yeah. But Salesforce owns Slack and I
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imagine all they think about is KPIs and not hearts. >> Yeah. And making a Mr. Beast commercial.
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>> Yeah. But there's got to be someone from Slack who watches this podcast.
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>> Like one person >> probably. >> There's got to be one person.
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>> Yeah. >> And they can they can fire off an email. They I'm sure they have an internal
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Slack at Slack, right? They can send a send a quick Slack message. >> They actually use Teams.
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>> Teams. Oh no. Well, they can find a way to to to hopefully maybe update that.
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We'll see if we can get it done. >> Okay. That'd be good. Next week we'll
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find another thing. >> My did testice is um is metal watch bands. Does anyone They always pull your
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hair. >> This feels like a Seinfeld joke. What's the deal with metal watch bands?
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>> I mean, they've been, you know, classic for many years, but they always just
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pull your arm hairs. Maybe I'm just too hairy. I don't know. Same same here.
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>> It wants you to remember you've got a sick watch on all the time. >> That's true. Yeah, that's true.
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>> Yeah. >> We We solved that one. >> We solved the >> Yeah. everyone uh put it in your notes
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app. >> Let's try and do one every week. I think it'll be fun and it's our due diligence.
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Let me know. >> Um I'll also very quickly do a quick internet update. I did have my internet
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back by the time I got home on Wednesday. >> Don't clap. Please do not clap. They do
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not deserve a clap. >> Comcast. >> One funny thing that happened was I get
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a call on Friday and it's a person saying, "Hey, this is blah blah blah
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with Xfinity. Did you know no one's home right now?" And I said, "What?
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>> I did know no one's home right now. Why are you at my house?" >> My home.
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>> And he's like, "Oh, there were some other wires hanging low and I got a a
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thing to come and fix them." I was like, "Okay, no one told me that." And he
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said, "Well, they're technically telephone wires." And then that guy,
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super nice, the actual technician, he was like, "They're not even our wires,
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but I think I have something that can probably move them up a little bit so nothing actually accidentally touches
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it." Mhm. >> He winds up doing the whole thing and giving me his personal cell phone number
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because he says, "Don't even try calling the 1-800 number. It accomplishes
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nothing." >> That is uh so shout out to that guy. >> Exactly. The the technicians who come
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are basically always actually knowledgeable and helpful. >> Yeah. They're poorly managed.
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>> I just can't you can't get in touch with them. >> Yeah. So
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>> I do feel like I had a very similar experience for some reason like getting
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fiber installed. I don't remember what exactly happened, but I remember the actual in-person technical person being
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way more helpful than anyone at the company trying to get them there. >> One more funny story about this really
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fast is um I got an email >> last week, let me find it real fast, from Comcast business point of contact
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who tried to contact us to see if we needed any business needs from Comcast, which was possibly the worst timing ever
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after everything happened last week. So, my little piece of uh help or revenge, I guess, is I just got
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to send him a nice email that said, "There's zero chance after the horrible
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experience I had last week." And that we're not interested at working with
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Xfinity at all. That was my little soul solace of that whole experience. >> Hopefully, some human read that instead
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of just AI filtering it over. >> Well, he even says in his email, "Save
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my contact information. No need to wait on our 1-800 lines for an available remote agent call center. Do
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>> you think this was in response to your rant? >> No, because it's just a salesperson
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probably spamming people. >> So, you think it was just like coincidence that they did this?
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>> Just a really unfortunate coincidence. >> Damn. Well, internet is a monopoly.
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>> Other things that are not monopolies, but could be surveillance states. Uh, we
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have a little update to our Ring story from last week. So, if you didn't listen
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to last week's episode, effectively one of the Super Bowl commercials that came
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out was that Ring, the doorbell company owned by Amazon, had this new feature that they were going to turn on um where
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basically all the rings would act as surveillance state cameras and if you lost your dog, it would identify your
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dog and totally not people and >> only your dog. >> We record this episode, we record this
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uh podcast on Wednesdays. On Thursday, uh Ring came out and basically was like, "Never mind. we're not. So, they spent
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all that money on the Super Bowl ad and then they were like, actually, we're not
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going to be working with Flock to do this anymore. They cited a bunch of reasons that uh probably were not the
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reasons. And really, the real reason was just that everyone was like canceling and unsubscribing and getting rid of
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Ring and etc., etc., etc. Um, but what's kind of ironic about this is like the
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the CEO of Ring, the founder of Ring, uh, they >> Mr. Ring, >> Mr. Ring himself, he has been very
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outspoken in this fact that like he actually wants there to be a surveillance state specifically because
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he is like laser focused on getting crime down to zero. And he's like, "Yeah, I mean I I eventually want all of
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these cameras to just continuously be recording everybody everywhere and going to police and we want to work with
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police, >> everyone everywhere all at once." >> There are there are two schools of
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thought here. >> That's why he started the company. It is not untrue that crime goes down when
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people think that they are going to get caught obviously right so that that is these two schools of thought that people
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have and he's been very outspoken on the fact that he thinks that this is the way
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forward um there's actually a good decoder episode with Nei about this that uh he went on and did with him and he's
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pretty straightforward on what he wants to do with this but obviously all of that backlash uh made it so that they
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are deciding that they are not going to do this anymore so >> I think they said like it was taking
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longer than they expected and definitely had nothing to do with >> the immense backlash that came after
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them spending probably almost $10 million on a commercial. >> I'm just looking back. I mean 10 million
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is almost nothing to them. But it is funny that like they called it search party.
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>> Yeah. >> There's just I'm looking back like how did this make it all the way to the end?
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you know, >> well, I have somebody had the idea and was like, "Here's a great idea." And
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everyone in in marketing was like, "Yeah, yeah." And then not one single
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person went, >> "Hey, you know what this looks like?" And and it just went all the way to the
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end. >> I I was at a bakery this weekend and someone in our town lost their dog. And
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I saw a couple go look at the thing and say, "Oh, did you see that commercial in
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the Super Bowl? Like it can find lost dogs? That's pretty cool." And I was
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like, >> that's how they were hoping it would go. Yeah, that's exactly what they were
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picturing. >> So, there are people who do think that. It's just also really funny when you
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think about the numbers they put in the commercial of being like >> a million people lose their pets and we
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find one per >> we find like 0.01% of dogs that get lost. >> Yeah. >> And also everything compassionate
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>> uh valid use case for something that could obviously be used for way worse
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things. >> And they're like, "Oh, it doesn't even have access. It doesn't even have the
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ability to recognize faces. That's our separate feature called familiar faces.
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But they don't touch each other at all. Like, okay, >> but we can recognize dogs like really
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well. >> But only dogs. >> We trained our model on a thousand dogs. We know
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>> they need to hire the uh marketing people at Apple who just make you terrified of not purchasing their
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products. That would work a little bit. >> Yeah, that like Yeah, the bear in the house video. Yeah.
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>> Yeah. Um Okay. Well, another thing that happened where we thought it would be
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better, but it actually got worse is that the Google has announced that the Pixel 9 series is now going to have the
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ability to use AirDrop as well. So, if you remember a few weeks ago, Google added compatibility for the Pixel 10
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series to have AirDrop. They said, "We are excited to bring this to more Android phones soon." We were hoping
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that more Android phones would be more Android phones, not more Google phones. Um, and so they're being added to it's
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being added to all Pixel 9 devices except for the 9A. >> And uh, when reached for comment about
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this, Google just kind of gave their PR answer of we're excited to bring this to
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more Android phones in the future. I was really hoping they were just going to be
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using the Pixel 10 series as a test bed to make sure it worked on Android at all
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and had enough stability, etc., etc. But now they're just putting pushing it to
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the 9. They still haven't done the eight. There's all these other phones. I
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don't really know what needs to be done here. But >> can I do you think they didn't do 9A
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because when 10A drops 10A will have it and they need to wait a couple months for 9A to get it. So then 9A doesn't
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have it cuz nothing We'll talk about it in a minute, but not much has changed in
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the 10A. >> That is a Google thing to do. But doing that off the back of finally having an
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Apple feature is just very strange. They usually do that in Google Photos. They don't usually do that. Yeah, that's
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common with other features. >> I'm a Blip stand. Sorry. Before we get off airdrop blip rules.
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>> Blip kind of hit the studio this year hard and like we've been an AirDrop
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Studio as you probably have been familiar. Like a lot of us are using Final Cut Pro and and Max in the studio.
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So, we like pass files back and forth and it's decently useful for I'd say
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anything up to about one gig. But as soon as I see like 890 megabytes and I need to send somebody a file, I'm like,
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do I really want to airdrop this? like it's going to not work some of the times. DUI also speaking of did you test
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this? Every time I go to open to share an airdrop, it starts populating and it goes 3 6 12 15 a ton of devices and I go
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to click the one to airdrop to and then it slides over and it slides again to the next row. Every single time I miss
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and I send it to the wrong person and it's really annoying. So, please test that Apple. Anyway, uh Airdrop usually
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doesn't work after a large enough file size or it's extremely slow. And Rufus,
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I think, is the one who brought Blip to the studio. He's like, "Have you guys
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tried Blip?" And we're like, "What's that?" And he's like, "Yeah, it's just
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an app that does the same exact thing, but it actually works >> and crossplatform
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>> and it's crossplatform and it's local. It's faster." >> We got to give Rub a little more credit
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cuz it was the kind of thing where he was like, "Let me blip this to you." We
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were like, "Dude, you want me to download a thing just so you No, I'm not
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getting another." >> Yeah. It's like AirDrop's right here, bro. It's right here. It works.
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>> And then everyone sends their first blip and it's like, >> "Whoa, what?"
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>> Do you know what? For the super niche content tech content creators out there
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who might be reviewing Android phones and editing on a Mac, being able to send the files through Blip instead is
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>> life-changing. >> It's huge. I'm going to send my four people.
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>> Yeah, all four of us who are reviewing Android phones, >> bro. Yeah, it's really good.
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>> Anyway, Google uh decided to drop the Pixel 10a this week. They were teasing
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it for a little bit. They were sort of teasing it because it looks the same, so they just showed us what it looked like
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already. Now, we have all the official specs and all the official numbers and everything, and it's
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it's the same as the Pixel 9a, almost literally the same. So, I went into this thinking it's the same phone.
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I I have the spec sheet in front of me here. Display, same size, same resolution. I'm going back and forth.
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Okay. Display, batteries, same size. Okay. Okay. Cameras, same exact cameras. All right. Uh chip, same exact Pixel,
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the Tensor 4 chip. So, I'm like, what do they actually change in the Pixel 10A?
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It's the same price. Uh, in case you're curious, I have a full list here of
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everything that's different about Pixel 10 A >> versus Pixel 9a. Ready?
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>> I'm ready. >> The camera bump, which was pretty flush before.
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>> It was like very flush. >> It was actually It's like a millimeter
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protruding. Now, it's actually zero flush. >> So, it took an angle grinder to it.
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>> Yeah. Um, the uniform bezels, I can't tell with my eyes, but I'm told they're
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slightly thinner. >> 10% as they say. It doesn't look it. >> Uh, wired charging goes from 23 watts to
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30. Wireless charging goes from 7 and a half 7 and 12 watts to 10. >> Okay.
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>> And the display is 10% brighter. >> Did they tell you the wired charging
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thing? >> Their spec sheet they sent >> is so vague and annoying. >> 10% brighter.
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>> Yeah. On the spec sheet they sent us, it just says uh >> it's like imperceivable brightness
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change. >> It was like 2700 peak brightness to 3,000. >> Yeah, but brightness is logarithmic
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already. So like >> yeah, it's not going to blow your mind, but it's uh it's a little brighter. And
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yeah, otherwise it's the same phone, same Tensor G4, same 8 gigs of RAM. >> Does it have
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>> Nope. >> Probably not. >> Nope. Ah, >> my one, this is the thing about
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releasing a new phone that's basically the same as last year. A lot of people
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sometimes like to complain like, oh, you didn't change anything. But I think
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without any substance for what they should have changed, that's kind of an empty complaint because change for the
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sake of change isn't doesn't really help anyone. Like you want to keep it
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consistent. You've got a brand, you know, you have to keep something consistent.
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So, what should they have changed is the real question. And the number one thing
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that comes to mind is you did this whole pixel snap thing with the Pixel 10s. The
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G2 magnets in the back. This would have been perfect. You could have just one up. You could have made an ad about how
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the base iPhone 17 or 16e or whatever doesn't have it. This would have been fun. You could have had it across the
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whole Pixel 10. >> And they didn't add magnets. >> That's crazy.
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>> They didn't uh move to the Tensor G5. They didn't add uh they didn't go 256
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gigs of base storage. They didn't do any of the things they could have done that
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I think would have been nice at this $4.99 price. >> Taking notes from Samsung.
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>> Yeah. So, at first I was like, why even release a new phone at all because it's,
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you know, you don't have to every year. But then I was like, you know what? You're Google. You kind of just do. You
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just you just go through the motions. And I felt that vibe the entire time I was like shooting the phone. We went to
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the city and like had a little briefing and they brought us to this back room. I
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always feel like they usually like shut down that area of the building to keep it quiet so that we can shoot. There was
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just Google employees walking by. Oh, they're doing the thing. Like nobody seemed to care. We shot the phone.
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>> Uh it it was very much an afterthought type of phone. So it's updated.
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>> I wanted you so bad to bring a 9A and just leave it on one of the platforms
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and then see if anyone accidentally recorded the wrong phone and made it into a different review. It's perfect
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because the colors of the phones, there's four colors, are almost exactly the same, just a little bit more
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saturated. And I saw the spec sheet had different color names and I was like, "Oh, maybe there's different colors cuz
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there's like >> fog and obsidian. And then there's like a sort of a reddish and a purplish one.
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I forgot the names. >> Lavender and berry, right?" >> Uh, I think that's the new ones. Yeah.
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Had some name like peony and porcelain or something else. And so they like renamed the white one porcelain to fog,
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but it's still the same color. >> And then they have this. >> If you're going to change everything by
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like such an imperceivable amount, why even change it? >> Exactly. >> Like you could you should just call it
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the Pixel A 2026. Pixel A 2027. At this point, >> at least the companies used to be a
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little bit more honest about it. They'd go, "Oh, this is the iPhone 6S." Cuz
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it's it's a small update from the iPhone 6. In fact, it's the same design, just a
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little bit of a spec bump, like a a couple small things. >> This isn't even a spec bump.
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>> Yeah. And at least with that, you'd be like, "All right, I'll probably skip the
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S and just wait for the next one. This one, they it's just a 10A and it's it's
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just the same as the last phone." And I ended up thinking about that for the
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video. And the conclusion I came to is like the Pixel is very much a softwaredefined thing.
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>> Yeah. Like the reason you get a Pixel, especially the A series Pixel, like that
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buyer isn't going, I want the latest chip or I want the, you know, the highest resolution display or whatever,
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it's just it's just a phone that works that has the Pixel features and it's
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still that. And so that's the reason why it's probably fine for most of those
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people. But yeah, as someone who reviews phones year-over-year, this was like, huh, I don't think I've ever seen that
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before. We've talked about them having a lot of sort of like uh friendliness with
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Samsung. It seems like they're taking a lot of lessons from Samsung over here.
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>> Yeah. This is like we've been joking about how we've on we're on the what S23
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>> S23 plus+. Um, but this is like another level of a whole lot of nothing, which
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we might see get beat in a week or in a couple weeks with, >> we'll talk about it later, but if iPhone
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17e is the exact same thing, it's going to be even funnier this year. >> Even
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>> when the uh the base iPhone got so good last year. >> Yeah, there might be a lot of L's.
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>> I'm just more with Marquez here. Why even release this 10A? I think they
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could have just been like, you know, the 9a is still pretty good for people that
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like want a cheap entry-level Pixel. >> Yeah. >> And everyone would would have been like,
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"Okay, yeah, yeah, good point." >> And the iPhone SE used to just be every
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couple years and that was fine. We get an iPhone SE like every 3 years and it would be like budget phone.
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>> Apple knew how to do it. They just called it SE so that there wasn't the
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confusion of like every year. Yeah. Because now they kind of had to release the 10A because they had to have a 10
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version of the A phone. But if they just call it like the Pixel E, >> I think that's literally exactly what
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they're doing is somebody is going to some new shopper is going to start looking for a budget phone and they will
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see that there is a 9A and no 10A and they'll go oh I guess there is no 10A and they'll go oh it's old news and move
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on. But if there's a 10A they'll consider it. >> I mean Apple learned that also they
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stopped doing SE and now they did 16E and possibly 17E right that seems worse. Seems like they wor still call it SE
00:21:45
because then they can sell the same phone for a long time. >> They can, but I think people want to see
00:21:50
>> this number, new number. I want new number even if it's cheaper. >> Yeah.
00:21:55
>> Which is unfortunate. Probably the marketing is the numbers are probably proving it.
00:22:01
>> Bring back the Pixel 4a. Better phone than this. Better phone than this. Had a
00:22:05
headphone jack. Cheaper. >> Wait, can I just confirm really fast the you so you said they told you 30 watt
00:22:11
wireless charging? is all they say in here is fast charging up to 50% in 30 minutes using 45 watt USBC charger or
00:22:19
higher sold separately. >> Yeah, they will sell you separately a 45 watt charger and if you use that one
00:22:23
then it can peak at 30 watts instead of 23 like last year. >> This is putting this in the the briefing
00:22:31
document that they send you for as a reviewer's guide is >> and isn't that 45 watt charger like
00:22:35
pretty expensive too? >> It's a thing that I'm sure a lot of Pixel A buyers won't buy. Yeah,
00:22:40
>> they'll just use whatever one they have. >> Yeah, >> I would not be surprised if a bunch of
00:22:44
>> day of reviews today get this part wrong because of how poorly this is worded in
00:22:49
the reviewers guide. >> Yeah, it's a lot of deciphering. >> I mean, at a certain point, these just
00:22:54
become Gemini boxes. That's what Google wants. That's their endgame. They just
00:22:57
want them to be magical Gemini boxes that do the thing. >> They're not going to do this with the
00:23:02
11, are they? >> Uh, make it look the same. You mean >> they can't have it be the same spec
00:23:06
sheet as the 10, right? They're just going to add new tensor accelerators and
00:23:10
that's it. >> Yeah, that's actually kind of >> God, that's already doing. Yeah, it's
00:23:16
like that's all that matters now. >> The the raw horsepower, GPU power, all
00:23:19
that of Tensor has never been the reason you buy it. >> Yeah. >> And so it's just going to be more tensor
00:23:24
cores and more AI chops and kind of the same specs anyway. >> With the acceleration of AI that we've
00:23:29
seen in the last year, I imagine that IO is going to be pretty crazy this year. Yep. uh which we did get a a date for
00:23:36
officially as of yesterday >> summer. >> Jumping ahead a little bit, but that is
00:23:40
happening in May. It's May 19th and 20th. >> Um so we'll see if that stacks up. But I
00:23:45
imagine there is so much competition in the AI race. It's not even about the
00:23:49
phones anymore. It's just about Gemini and what they can do with Gemini. So yeah, they already have the Pixel
00:23:54
experience pretty laid out. >> That's what makes a Pixel a Pixel, I guess.
00:23:57
>> That's what makes it. >> Yeah. And 128 gig base storage. >> Yeah. still. So,
00:24:03
I don't know how we even talked about that for that long, but honestly, >> we had we had our segways going really
00:24:09
nicely. We just kind of moved through a bunch of topics effortlessly because we're so good at that.
00:24:13
>> Speaking of a lot of topics that you may or may not get correctly or incorrectly,
00:24:19
>> I see what you did there. >> Maybe trivia time. By the way, audience, I promise it will
00:24:29
get more interesting. We have more stuff. We have >> I promise nothing of the sort.
00:24:33
>> I thought that was super interesting. >> We have a lot more interesting. That's
00:24:36
interesting. >> Actually, if you don't know what if you didn't look at our thumbnail for the
00:24:41
main channel and also look at the Pixel 9a thumbnail. >> You should go look because I think it's
00:24:46
one of the >> it was the most interesting thing about our video. >> And it's not a photoshop, by the way.
00:24:51
Some people are thinking we photoshopped the Pixel 9a thumbnail to change the color of the phone. No, we reshot.
00:24:58
I wore the same jacket. >> We actually got a new shot. >> That was more effort than Google put
00:25:03
into the >> Tim did change your shirt color cuz you wore the exact same one but the phone
00:25:10
colors were different. So Tim swapped your shirt. >> All right, Adam, hit him hit us with
00:25:13
some easier trivia questions cuz I don't think any of us have gotten a point in
00:25:16
like >> Okay, here's the easiest month trivia question. >> Okay,
00:25:20
>> let's go. >> What is Marquez's social security number? >> I know it.
00:25:23
>> 606. I knew it. No. So, we spoke about the 10A just now, but the first Pixel A
00:25:30
phone was the 3A. >> Mhm. >> Made by which giant manufacturer? >> I know this.
00:25:35
>> Oh, yeah. >> Who made it? >> Yeah. Back when they were like
00:25:38
>> 50% chance >> rotating through a couple manufacturers to make pixels.
00:25:42
>> Yep. >> Well, and Nexuses. The Nexuses mostly. Nexy. All the pixels are kind of made by
00:25:49
the same team. >> Yeah. >> No, the first couple pixels were the 4A was big. Wasn't it? They were all made
00:25:55
by the same team. It was just they use like different screens. >> Team Pixel.
00:25:59
>> The Pixel 2. >> Yeah, they were made by Team Pixel. >> Um, which was the one where the Pixel 2
00:26:05
had the screen issue because it was like some had the screens from Samsung and some had them from LG,
00:26:10
>> right? >> What was the one where like didn't HTC make the small version and LG made the
00:26:14
XL? >> That was the Nexus. I mean, the five was made by the 5X was made by LG and the 6P was made by
00:26:24
Huawei. Yeah. >> Yeah. Anyway, I miss those days. We're talking about how you don't need to
00:26:30
update things because, you know, it's the same. I missed the Nexus days, but
00:26:33
we had no freaking >> completely different. >> What's it going to be? I don't know.
00:26:38
It's going to be a totally random weird. >> We tried We tried a Shamu, then we tried
00:26:42
a visor, then we went back to Shamu, >> then we did this. Oh, and then you like
00:26:46
the five. We're going to make it again, but instead of that, we're also going to
00:26:48
have the 6P. >> What do you guys think of orange? >> I mean, >> Pixel 2 HTC 2XL LG.
00:26:55
>> That's >> made by >> Mhm. >> Wow. Wow. Well, you just kind of looked
00:26:59
up >> Pixel 2. Well, that's Pixel 2. >> Yeah. >> You were talking about the Pixel One.
00:27:04
>> No, Pixel 3a. >> Oh, the first a phone. >> Okay. >> I'm definitely not giving either of you
00:27:11
hints because you probably know this exactly. I'm the one who needs a hint. I
00:27:15
think I know it, but we'll see. >> They think they know it, they say. >> All right,
00:27:18
>> we shall see. >> Well, answers will be at the end like usual. We'll be right back.
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rules and restrictions may apply. All right, welcome back. Uh it is February which means we are getting now a little
00:28:51
bit more into the meat of the year. We have a Samsung event coming up and we also have just announced an Apple event
00:28:57
coming up. Uh I don't know what's going to be announced at any of these events.
00:29:02
It could be anything but we can speculate plus nothing. >> I think we know what's getting announced
00:29:09
at the Samsung event. >> Yeah. Do we >> the S2? >> It could be anything. Andrew,
00:29:14
>> what if it's a folding? >> They haven't said. >> Why are your hands in your pockets?
00:29:19
>> Why are they Why are they spending so much money on this on this launch event
00:29:22
in San Francisco when it's literally somebody somebody put on Twitter the the
00:29:28
launch event from last year and they said leaked S26 launch event. All the comments were like, "Wow, so cool that
00:29:35
you got this or like literally nobody even could realize that it was that it was last year's." Samsung's official
00:29:40
invitation says, "Unpacked February 2026. The next AI phone makes your life
00:29:46
easier." That could be anything. >> Maybe what if they This whole event is
00:29:53
just them reannouncing Bixby. >> I I can't wait for that day. >> Bixby comes back.
00:29:59
>> The Galaxy Home will finally come out. >> It's going to be S26. S26. That was
00:30:03
peak. >> The Galaxy phone finally launches. >> Galaxy speaker. Anyway, but the Apple
00:30:07
event we actually don't know also, but we uh kind of probably also do know. Yeah, we can we can guess. What do we
00:30:12
hope gets in house at these types of things? >> Well, I wanted to see new Mac minis to
00:30:17
run Claude. Just kidding. >> Um, no. No, >> I'm only kind of kidding. Um, but there
00:30:24
are all these rumors of the new Apple A series MacBook that we've been talking
00:30:29
about for many, many, many months now. Yeah. And this seems to actually be the thing that people are saying might come
00:30:35
out because the invitation that went out for people with there's this March 4th
00:30:40
event that's happening that is apparently just going to be sort of an experience event and people are saying
00:30:45
that there's not going to be like a keynote. They're going to release that
00:30:47
stuff separately. >> But the colors in that launch event poster are the colors that people are
00:30:53
saying that these MacBooks might be colored as. It's like a light green, a light yellow, sort of a sort of a really
00:30:58
cheap $700 model. Well, can I just say every time we do the like speculation about what the event invite means, I
00:31:05
always wish that someone had done like a how close were we about previous event invites and what it actually ended up
00:31:14
being. >> Someone's probably done that. >> I think someone's done they've like
00:31:17
analyzed every invite and then >> and like what the hint was and what it turned out to be.
00:31:21
>> Okay, so this is the possible new colors of this colorful new >> cheaper entry-level MacBook powered by
00:31:27
an A series chip. >> Yeah, >> I'm very interested in this. I think
00:31:31
right now we're in a spot where like Apple silicon's gotten super super good.
00:31:34
And whenever we talk about MacBook Air, which is the current cheapest laptop they make,
00:31:39
>> it is such an easy to recommend $1,000 $1,100 laptop. It's almost like the
00:31:44
default way of getting into Apple laptops. >> But there are lots of laptops that are
00:31:48
way cheaper than that. And the Mac Mini came out and was maybe the best deal in tech at like $600 and being just enough
00:31:55
computer for anyone who just needs a computer. But what if you need a laptop and you have $600? This is a spot that
00:32:01
Apple can probably ship a ton of laptops. >> Oh my god. >> And if the A series chip is good enough,
00:32:08
like they don't need to ship an M1 in this thing, they can ship an A series chip in super high volume, it could be a
00:32:15
winner. I mean, they really want to compete with uh the Chromebooks on the education front because Google really
00:32:20
locks people the hell in. I mean, I think the fact that they came out with the education bundle so recently, the
00:32:27
creative apps for education and all that stuff is not a coincidence because the biggest the biggest thing that really
00:32:33
moves people through Google's ecosystem is using Chromebooks while they're in
00:32:37
elementary school and they just have Google accounts. They just continue on with it. So, Apple's like, "We really
00:32:41
want a piece of that pie." >> And considering if they're selling this
00:32:44
to consumers at $700, I would imagine that they would give them to uh schools for even cheaper.
00:32:50
>> Yeah. So they could really they could really ship a lot of these. But I think
00:32:54
most people don't need the power of M5, M4, you know, in their laptops. >> Yeah.
00:32:59
>> So honestly, like an A18, it's basically just an iPad, but with a interface that
00:33:06
makes sense. I think that that could be a winner. Yeah. It's funny because there's this whole other slate of
00:33:11
possible things we're thinking Apple might announce. Another one is a touchscreen MacBook Pro. Maybe at like
00:33:17
some point late this year or next year, something like that. Yeah. >> And so we're kind of keeping an eye on
00:33:22
how Mac OS is evolving and what the app situation looks like and how that's happening. Uh and obviously they're so
00:33:29
similar in architecture anyway, like you're running lots of of those apps. It
00:33:32
it makes total sense that an A series chip would work in a cheap MacBook. >> Yeah.
00:33:37
>> But it now makes even more sense that we could see a touchscreen version of Mac
00:33:41
OS. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> It is interesting because the what happens to the MacBook Air? I mean, they
00:33:47
kind of created this really, really big pipeline of computers at that point where the MacBook Air was supposed to be
00:33:53
the cheapest, most affordable model and it's 13 in. So, is the only differentiating factor going to be the
00:34:00
fact that it has a not as strong processor. The main thing >> Air will go back to meaning middle. I
00:34:07
think it would be middle, but like I'd assume the if we're if we're guessing
00:34:12
that this A18 version of the MacBook is going to be something almost like a Chromebook that we give to schools, I'd
00:34:17
assume the chassis that it's in is going to be pretty >> a little cheaper.
00:34:21
>> Yeah. Yeah. A cheaper version of it, which means thicker, which means probably more ports and stuff like that
00:34:25
for kids when So then like are we assuming this is the like >> the cheaper in all aspects version of
00:34:33
the MacBook? Then the Air is kind of like the in between. I understand I don't need a ton of processing power or
00:34:39
ports. Thinner, I'm traveling all the time. Gets everything done I need to be
00:34:43
the cheaper I don't say grown-up version, but and then then we have the pros that are pro models.
00:34:49
>> Yeah, I I kind of see it as an expansion of the lineup downward. And I don't know
00:34:54
what to expect ports wise from this. I think naturally if it's going to education, you have to have a couple of
00:35:00
ports, but I could see Apple not doing that, which is interesting. >> Everything's on USB ports.
00:35:05
>> Yeah, maybe not more ports. >> Do you even do you But all that education stuff is on the internet.
00:35:10
>> That's a good point. >> Do you really need any ports besides a
00:35:12
charging port? >> I just I always picture an HDMI port, but I haven't been in a classroom in so
00:35:17
long that I'm not even sure you need that anymore. >> The kids don't need it.
00:35:20
>> They definitely don't need an HDMI. >> The kids don't need it. HDMI is like
00:35:22
only for the pros. >> I guess if you want to think about it of like the iPad lineup of like they had an
00:35:28
iPad mini, an iPad Pro, and then they had the like iPad for education one that still had the old button and everything
00:35:34
for super super cheap. Like >> this MacBook would be that I guess. >> Exactly. Yeah. So it puts iPad it puts
00:35:41
Air in the middle again. So in the iPad lineup it's iPad, then there's Air and
00:35:45
there's iPad Pro >> and then Air is in the middle. So the MacBooks it would be like the MacBook.
00:35:50
This is like the 12-inch MacBook they wanted to do well. I literally have that pulled up right now. It's like a
00:35:54
slightly smaller, slightly cheaper, slightly underpowered, but totally fine for most people laptop. And then if you
00:36:00
really need the upgrade, okay, here's a bigger screen. Here's a bigger battery.
00:36:02
It's the MacBook Air. It's 1,100 bucks and it's all the computer you probably
00:36:06
need. And then the pros for the people who need that. >> Yeah, >> Air is in the middle again.
00:36:10
>> And then what else is Air? I mean, iPhone Air is kind of in the middle.
00:36:13
Sort of. Price-wise, it's technically in the middle. >> So, yeah, it kind of works.
00:36:17
>> True. it. Um, it's rumored to have a 12.9 inch display whereas the MacBook
00:36:21
Air has 13.6. Not a huge difference there. It's something. I was really hoping they would go for an actual like
00:36:28
12 in super hyper portable display, especially if they're trying to get into
00:36:31
the educ like the education market where kids backpacks are like the size of a purse. I think that could be really
00:36:36
helpful. >> Am I the only one just straight up picturing the MacBook from 2015?
00:36:40
>> No. Yeah, for sure. 12in MacBook. Make the bezel bigger and that or smaller.
00:36:44
You know what's funny about this? I mean, I would love that. I think that the 12-inch MacBook, hear me out, and
00:36:50
the trash can Mac Pro have a lot in common. Ready? Ready for this? I'm gonna
00:36:55
blow your mind. I'm >> ready. >> This was back in the in the earlier days
00:36:59
of almost like late Johnny Eye of Apple of ultra minimalism where they had an idea of a computer that they wanted to
00:37:06
make, but they didn't have the silicon to really make it a reasonable computer.
00:37:09
>> Concepts of a computer. So, the Mac Pro trash can was like this ultra small
00:37:15
single fan computer with like a Intel chip in there and like dual Radeon GPUs. It was ridiculous. It was crazy that
00:37:22
they even tried that, but they did. And it was a computer that would readily overheat and leave dead pixels in your
00:37:28
video exports, but it was a thing that they probably could have done with Apple Silicon a couple of years later really,
00:37:34
really well. The 12-in MacBook is the same thing. That was powered by an Intel Core M3 or
00:37:40
i5 or i7 or whatever back in 2017. >> And it was a smaller, a little bit underpowered, a little bit too much heat
00:37:47
throttle type of computer where like if they had Apple Silicon back then, that would have actually been a reasonable
00:37:53
computer. So, I think this is them revisiting that concept. I don't think they're going to revisit that trash can
00:37:59
Mac Pro. I think that's just Mac Studio now. But that's like the too early for
00:38:03
Mac, too early for Apple silicon idea that can come around and actually be good again.
00:38:08
>> I wish that they would release the trash can again as the trash can fan edition
00:38:12
Mac Pro. >> They could >> with an M chip. That would be so sick. >> I have so many other thoughts about Mac
00:38:16
Pro. Mac Pro is basically dead. Yeah, >> I think and we're we can get to some of
00:38:21
these other rumors because we're expecting more M5 MacBook Pros and like higherend like finishing out the M5 chip
00:38:29
lineup like an M5 Pro and an M5 Max. >> Whether Ultra ever gets upgraded from M2
00:38:34
Ultra, I'm not sure >> cuz yeah, the Mac Pro is still on M2 Ultra. >> Yeah,
00:38:39
>> at this point there is an M3 Ultra chip. It's only in Mac Studio. There is no M4
00:38:43
Ultra chip yet. If they did make it, does that mean you cannot buy a Mac Pro that can do ray tracing then? Because I
00:38:52
think ray tracing was added an M3. >> Look that up. Someone fact check me on
00:38:56
that. >> If that's true, then yeah, >> that's crazy. That's a bummer. RTX on,
00:39:00
baby. RTX. >> I have a Mac Pro on my desk. I've been using and editing it. It's M2 Ultra.
00:39:04
It's a great computer. I also have one internal PCI card in there. It's got
00:39:10
like a 90 terbte SSD RAID and that's super useful for my backup. There is no
00:39:15
reason I should be using a Mac Pro still. I should just use a Mac Studio. >> They're so funny cuz they're like 90%
00:39:21
air on the inside. >> Yeah, it's just Airflow. >> That's the Mac Air.
00:39:25
>> So, I might as well at this point like my next desktop computer is I think an
00:39:30
M5 Ultra Mac Studio with like a single Thunderbolt cable to like my little SSD backup. I think that's what it has to be
00:39:38
because I think Mac Pro is just Apple's done with like giving that attention and
00:39:41
resources >> because what you should do is they make these like rack units that have for a
00:39:46
Mac Studio that have a Thunderbolt port like built into the back. So as soon as you put it in the rack, it like plugs
00:39:51
into the Thunderbolt and then it adds to like one or two PCIe card slots in it. >> So you can still use your giant hard
00:40:00
drive. And what's really cool is there's like this a lot of them have this
00:40:03
mechanical situation where you push a button on the front that pushes an armature that links around the back. So
00:40:09
it moves the power button to the front. >> Oh, that's hilarious. >> It's funny cuz I the difference now that
00:40:14
Thunderbolt 5 is out, it's it's enough bandwidth for me to do what I was going
00:40:19
to do with that PCI storage. I think there's still people who use PCI for other things they need all that
00:40:22
bandwidth for, but for me accessing like 40 terabytes of backup footage, >> I can edit off of a Thunderbolt 5 drive
00:40:29
at this point. Yeah, you're going to need to edit off of those drives you already have because the cost of storage
00:40:33
is up 10x from what it was a year ago. >> Yeah. >> So, so yeah, I think my Mac Pro is is on
00:40:39
its way out at some point and I'm hoping to see an M5 Ultra even though we don't
00:40:43
even have M4 Ultra yet. >> It would be nice. It'd be nice. Yeah. Well, speaking of, there's some other
00:40:47
things that we're probably going to see. Probably an M5 Pro and M5 Max MacBook
00:40:51
Pro because they still have not released M5 Pro and M5 Max. That's correct, right?
00:40:56
>> Yep. >> No, no Mac Mini with M5 Pro. >> Just base M5. They haven't talked about
00:40:59
the Mac Mini. Um, apparently some new potentially cheaper displays which would could be cool because currently you've
00:41:07
got the studio display which is cheaper and then you've got the Pro Display XDR
00:41:13
which has not been updated in a really really really long time. >> Maybe something in the middle could be
00:41:18
nice. You know, something that's Pro but isn't $6,000. >> Both of those displays are in a really
00:41:23
weird place in the market. Like Andrew, you know a lot more about like displays and the variety of displays you can get,
00:41:30
but I just feel like the Pro Display XDR is a $5,000 monitor. >> Well, and a thousand stand.
00:41:35
>> Plus $1,000 stand plus $1,000 nano texture coding that's on mine. It's like
00:41:40
and it's a 60 Hz display. So on paper it looks ridiculous, but it has the brightness. It has the color
00:41:44
calibration. It has like what we need for everyone on the studio seeing the exact same color, which is awesome.
00:41:50
The studio display, correct me if I'm wrong, $1,700, I think. >> I think it's $1,700.
00:41:56
>> Also 60 Hz. >> Yeah. >> 27 in display. It's It's kind of It gets
00:42:01
pitched by Apple in these like kind of creative scenarios sometimes cuz it's a
00:42:05
studio display. >> Yeah. >> But also like the display for your bedroom or the display for just the
00:42:10
computer you have in your house. It's kind of a silly buy. The rumor is going
00:42:14
to be studio display 2. >> Okay. >> So, just update to it. And this is from
00:42:19
95 Mac and they're saying that they are thinking it will have a higher refresh
00:42:23
rate either 90 or 120 Hz, >> please. >> Uh an A19 chip in it because currently
00:42:28
it has the A13 Bionic chip in it. That's uh to allow this camera and speakers and
00:42:32
stuff to do all the Apple magic. >> Sure. >> Uh potentially a miniLEDD display
00:42:37
>> which could be good. And HDR support. >> Sure. >> So, and that is probably I think all I
00:42:42
would need of that computer and hopefully it's reasonably priced. Not sure I can cross my fingers.
00:42:47
>> Well, the last part. Yes, >> say goodbye to, but >> I imagine it'll be about the same price.
00:42:50
I think that there are just not that many good Thunderbolt displays right now. And that's what a lot of people
00:42:56
come back to when they talk about the Studio Display is like it's lacking on a
00:43:00
lot of features, but there are just not a lot of displays where you can just plug in one cable and everything just
00:43:05
works perfectly. >> Yeah, there's a small handful. I've seen some reviews. There's like the LG Ultra
00:43:10
Fine stuff and I think we have like a Dell one now that I've I've gotten
00:43:14
really It's like the giant 5K big. Uh, so there's some there's some interesting
00:43:18
choices out there. Almost all of them are at least higher refresh rate. I can't believe Apple's still shipping
00:43:23
like this expensive a display at 60 Hz. >> It's hard to compare like you said the
00:43:27
Pro Display XDR because you're looking at things that are like color calibrated. And once you start getting
00:43:31
into those monitors, they're niche as well and super expensive. So if you were
00:43:35
looking at pure specs, you could probably find 800 monitors that are better >> for six grand.
00:43:40
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> But then you get into that so niche and they're
00:43:44
>> in color calibration world. There's like $40,000 monitors that >> you want a cheese grater on the back,
00:43:49
which is the most important part that's behind your wall. >> It's huge. Yeah. Every day I walk around
00:43:53
the side of my desk and I just check the back just to make sure the cheese grater
00:43:56
holes are still there. >> Nice. Nice. >> Uh yeah. And then some other potential
00:44:00
updates. A18 base iPad. So just kind of bumping that up. M4 iPad Air. So it's in
00:44:05
the middle. Finally getting M4. iPhone 17e, which again we don't really expect
00:44:10
anything to be different from the 16. It's going to be so funny. >> They got to have Max.
00:44:15
>> I hope they do the same thing Pixel just did because if 16e was already bust of
00:44:21
the air last year, terrible phone to buy. If 17e is exactly the same when they then made the base 17 like a deal.
00:44:30
Like we finally said an iPhone was a deal. If then it's the same as the 16e,
00:44:34
it's going to be somehow a worse deal than it already was. >> Head scratching. That would be crazy.
00:44:39
and none of us would be surprised by it at all. >> So, it's just a new chip and maybe the
00:44:44
new like dynamic island, I guess. Is that it? I guess >> I can't even remember what the
00:44:49
>> I don't even have 60 Hz notch >> thicker bezels, no Mag Safe, no fast
00:44:58
charge. It has wireless charging um but no magnets obviously. >> Yeah. >> And like black or white are the only
00:45:03
colors. Single camera, like really truly a base phone. like single speakers at the bottom, like really bass phone.
00:45:10
>> I don't see them changing a lot of that stuff. They're just going to probably do
00:45:13
a chip bump and maybe a display bump to like the at this point like the the first dynamic island LCD that they ever
00:45:20
made. Did they ever do an LCD dynamic island? Maybe not. So maybe it's an OLED. Maybe it's an OLED.
00:45:25
>> Only OLED. Yeah, I would that would have to be OLED if it was Dynamic Island.
00:45:28
>> So that'd be cool. Yeah. And then I guess the same phone otherwise sadly.
00:45:33
>> Yep. Starting at 600 bucks. Hm. >> Yeah. >> Okay. 16e is already OLED, so that's
00:45:39
good. It'll be OLED. That's good. >> It seems like it's quite a month of um
00:45:44
quote unquote updating things. >> Slight updates for >> slight updates. It's like Samsung,
00:45:48
Google, and Apple are all just not really updating things. They're >> And these these are still the companies
00:45:54
that are like mega companies that are big enough to not be as price sensitive with memory with all that's happening.
00:46:01
Yeah. Right. Like we think GPUs, memory, all that stuff. >> Yeah, that's the I mean, I think Apple
00:46:06
can basically just eat the cost at this point. Even if it eats into their margin
00:46:09
to the point where they lose money, I think that they're willing to eat the cost thinking that maybe within a year
00:46:14
memory will go back down because they don't want to be unstable and dynamically change their pricing
00:46:18
constantly, especially for a mega corporation like that and that would be a bad look.
00:46:22
>> Um, we do have one more event though. the there's going to be a nothing event
00:46:26
for the nothing 4A on the 5th and Carl Pay decided to do what Carl Pay does and he took the Apple event invite and he uh
00:46:34
made a little Photoshop spray paint thing of nothing and over the Apple logo and then put March 5th instead of March
00:46:42
4th. Um, neat >> funny kind of almost a call back >> almost a call back to 2018 when there
00:46:50
was going to be a OnePlus event that Carl was the head of >> and they announced it and it was a big
00:46:54
fanf fair and then two weeks before the before Apple was like actually we're
00:46:58
going to have an event on that day and then OnePlus had to literally move to a week later because they're like we
00:47:04
literally cannot compete. >> They move it a week. I thought they moved to like one day they moved it a
00:47:07
week. >> I think they moved it a week later. It was really funny though because everyone
00:47:11
in my world was like, "So, which one are you going to?" Yeah, we all knew.
00:47:16
>> If this is a call back to that, >> I'll give Carl some credit for this.
00:47:20
It's funny. I think if you can joke about something funny that happened to you in the past that probably screwed up
00:47:25
a lot of things. >> Yeah. Well, ironically, this 4A seems to be the only thing that has a new design.
00:47:30
So, >> I guess you got to give you got to give credit where it's due. >> Fair enough. I've got a kind of a thing
00:47:36
here on we're getting a lot of tweets >> because Apple just announced video
00:47:41
podcasts through Apple podcasts >> and obviously >> like Spotify a lot of people have been
00:47:47
asking us if we are going to put it on. So let me um explain what's happening
00:47:51
and then explain if we will be on it or not. Uh they lost launched their video podcast experience on the podcast app
00:47:57
which lets people stream through HTTP live streaming and you will be able to download for offline viewing. Um, this
00:48:05
is something they just announced on Monday, I think it was. In their press release, Apple said, "We are putting
00:48:09
creators in full control of their content and how they build their businesses while making it easier than
00:48:13
ever for audiences to listen to or watch podcasts." So, everyone's asking us,
00:48:18
will we be putting it on it? And right now, the answer is no, because we can't
00:48:22
because Megaphone is not one of the partners that's working with this. So far, it is opening with uh art 19, Omni
00:48:29
Studio, Simplecast, and Ads Wiz. Those are all the platforms of publishing that will be able to use this. Does say there
00:48:37
will be more participating partners later. Um, but we're in the Vox Media Podcast Network and we use Megaphone,
00:48:42
which is also owned by Spotify. So, I don't know when they will be joining the
00:48:45
Apple podcast video platform for this. Um, but it is kind of cool that they're
00:48:51
allowing dynamically inserted video ads, including host reads, which is a big thing in video podcasting right now.
00:48:58
That's still kind of weird. If you watch us on YouTube, those are obviously not
00:49:01
dynamically inserted. They're based videos. Till that gets added, we'll see
00:49:05
what that does. Um, podcasting and podcast ads are so based on dynamically inserted ads because when you're just
00:49:12
downloading and streaming audio all the time, it gets swapped out and that's
00:49:15
kind of how people can find ways to advertise on there. It's much easier when you can't see if the host is
00:49:21
wearing a different shirt or not. Um, on video podcast, we re-record our ads every week. I think Vox thinks we're
00:49:28
crazy that we do that, but we do because we like things to be as high quality as
00:49:33
they are, even if it's an ad you're gonna skip. Um, so we'll see what that
00:49:37
does. The reason we're we still have to see how this plays out though because
00:49:41
the way Spotify did video and the reason we're one of the reasons we're still not
00:49:44
on there is like we were worried and it might still take over the if they take the video audio and turn that into the
00:49:52
audio thing. We might lose all of the advertising that's coming through Vox or
00:49:57
whichever podcast network we're with. And >> if they're doing their weird ads just
00:50:01
from Spotify if Apple were to do something like that. I don't know. We need to see what it does because I don't
00:50:06
think people realize how much ads and podcasts is what >> makes or breaks a podcast.
00:50:11
>> And also just to be transparent like we're we're we're we're half a podcast
00:50:15
or half a YouTube channel basically. And we need to keep getting views on YouTube
00:50:20
because that's how we grow and make money, discoverability, that kind of stuff.
00:50:24
>> And it's just kind of awkward now that everyone's like just put it in here
00:50:28
because we don't get paid for that. So, I understand the the flexibility and
00:50:33
being able to jump between the audio and the video in the same app is nice, but if if the waveform YouTube channel
00:50:39
starts getting less and less views because people are watching it on Spotify and and Apple podcast and then
00:50:43
we don't get money for that, it's kind of hard to >> It's also weird.
00:50:47
>> It'll be once like podcast networks who seem pretty be I don't want to say
00:50:52
behind, but the pod podcasting in general is not really up to date with advertising everywhere else. So once
00:50:59
they get stuff working and figuring out rates and stuff like that, it could totally work. And I I wonder how much we
00:51:06
would lose on if it would be on Spotify, like if it's just our audio listeners
00:51:10
wanting to hop into video, if that would actually hit our YouTube at all. There's
00:51:14
>> there's just a lot more to it than just can you post it on >> Yeah. Like the reason Joe Rogan took
00:51:18
that $10 million deal or whatever it was, $100 million >> is because we turned it down.
00:51:24
>> Cuz we Yeah. Because they were he was the B plan. But the reason he took the
00:51:27
$100 million deal was like he was making a lot of money on YouTube. >> Yeah. That's how much it cost to
00:51:32
convince him to not put it on YouTube. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. >> So, yeah. And I think it's also, you
00:51:37
know, worth remembering that YouTube is still technically the largest podcast platform and has a lot of influence on
00:51:45
how podcasts get made and shared. And we are a podcast, but as you said, we're
00:51:49
we're a YouTube channel as well. And so there's different things we optimize for
00:51:52
and different formats that you you lean into. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, >> Apple podcast does a decent job of doing
00:51:57
like charts and different suggested shows. So, I think some some podcasters who maybe are smaller that have video or
00:52:04
like introducing it to that might introduce you to a new audience. >> Totally.
00:52:07
>> Um, which could be cool, but in terms of us doing it quite yet, >> we've got a lot of stuff to figure out
00:52:14
before we hop on that. I think Apple podcast may be in my opinion, in my limited experience, the only other
00:52:20
podcast platform that is big enough and has enough discoverability through those
00:52:24
charts that you could be swayed to go, "All right, we should be putting everything on Apple Podcast because
00:52:31
people will find us there and we'll chart there sometimes and get new viewership there." I could see that.
00:52:36
>> Yeah, >> it's much easier to convince someone about YouTube there. But
00:52:39
>> yeah, I could see that. >> And either way, competition is good. Like if Vimeo ever got big enough to be
00:52:44
competitive to YouTube, people would have better ad rates on YouTube. >> It's true.
00:52:48
>> So >> there' be Vimeo podcast. >> Yeah. If Spotify and Apple and YouTube
00:52:53
all want to like battle it out on who pays the most to video viewers, then go at it. Like
00:52:58
>> be my guest. >> Be my guest. That would be nice. >> We love it. Is podcasting dead?
00:53:03
>> Podcasting is more of a concept. >> That's fair. >> I think that it's not what it used to
00:53:08
be. Everything's just a talk show now. >> Yeah, pretty much. I feel like the
00:53:11
beauty of podcasting before was that you could just record something, put it on RSS, and like be done with it.
00:53:16
>> Yeah. >> To have like ads now. The problem I wish there was like just some free third
00:53:21
party thing where we can upload our own video >> protocol. If only there was some way to
00:53:27
like insert it dynamically in an open manner into each video. >> That'd be crazy.
00:53:33
>> Yeah. But YouTube, Spotify, Apple, none of these platforms are ever going to let
00:53:36
that happen. So this is the the conundrum we're in where this podcast industry is kind of exploding. It's on
00:53:42
Netflix now. HBO has podcast. >> It's just like there's so many different
00:53:47
places to upload video. The fear too is like while we're with a podcast network
00:53:51
that does audio ads and stuff like that is going through an RSS feed and where whenever we start seeing Spotify or
00:53:57
Apple trying to do it, it's like well what cut are they going to start trying
00:54:00
to take or figuring out or controlling ads and jumping on it first as a established place doesn't seem like the
00:54:06
best idea. >> If there were an open federated protocol, we wouldn't have to have a
00:54:11
middleman. Just saying. Maybe that's something I should vibe code it with my
00:54:14
Claudebot at Claude Con. Claw Con or whatever it's called. Okay. Well, um, we
00:54:20
love games on this podcast. We have lately been playing more and more games just like people keep playing games with
00:54:26
my heart. So, I think Adam is going to do a game with us after we do this second trivia question.
00:54:34
>> We do less games if phone companies made phones fun at all anymore. >> You can't afford this.
00:54:39
>> That's right. If you're a gamer, you cannot afford this. I'm sorry,
00:54:44
>> guys. Earlier in the episode, we talked about Ring, but Ring was not always
00:54:50
called Ring. >> Weren't they on Shark Tank? >> They were on Shark Tank.
00:54:56
>> They were. >> They were Shark Tank. >> And Kevin Olirri tried to get it and he
00:54:59
said no. >> He They didn't make a deal. And then they went on to sell to Amazon for a baz
00:55:04
a billion. Was it a billion? I believe. Same as Instagram. A bazil. >> Yeah, it was a bazil.
00:55:09
>> A bazillion. >> A bazil. Yeah. >> Jeff Bezos was like, I could do so much
00:55:12
evil with this. Surveillance Day, you say? >> Melania movie, you say? >> Um, but before it was called Ring, was
00:55:21
it called >> Surveillance Day? >> A doorbot, B. Campbell, or C. Stoop watcher.
00:55:32
>> There's no way it was any of those. >> Campbell. Yeah. Wait, I'm not going to.
00:55:37
>> It's one of those three terrible names. >> Yeah. So, >> I love my Campbell soup.
00:55:42
>> Yeah. I was going to say they was sued immediately if they used Campbell.
00:55:45
>> It was like how like Amazon's original name was like Abra or something. Like
00:55:49
all of these companies like start off with something goofy and then eventually hire a marketer who's like, "Okay, we
00:55:53
got to do something about this." >> Abra at least is like the other ones are
00:55:57
just >> attempting to do a pun really poorly. That sounds like what chat GPT would
00:56:02
tell me if I was trying to make >> what the internet. I didn't get any like
00:56:04
primary sources to confirm this, but what the internet sort of seemed to indicate was that like they started off
00:56:09
like as a camera company like like camera for your house and that was not marketing well. And so they pivoted to
00:56:17
being a smart doorbell that happened to have a camera. And now that people are just okay with being surveiled 24/7 now
00:56:25
they're like, "We're a camera company." I guess not. I guess they try to be
00:56:27
like, "Guys, we're a camera company. here's a Super Bowl ad. And everyone was
00:56:30
like, I didn't like that. Just just go ring ring. Someone's at the front door.
00:56:35
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So go to shopify.com/wwayform. That's shopify.com/waveform. Welcome back. We are going to play two
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truths and a lie. Producer table versus host table. >> Oh. >> So, there will be points up for grabs. I
00:58:01
will say a product and we're going to tell you three specs from that product.
00:58:06
One of them will be completely made up. >> Two truths, one lie about all of these
00:58:11
products. You guys need to agree on which one you think it is. >> Okay. And then if we fooled you, we get
00:58:17
the point. If you get it right, you get the point. >> Okay. >> All right.
00:58:20
>> Real products. >> Yeah, real products. >> All right. >> Let's start easy.
00:58:23
>> All right. >> Pixel 10 Pro. >> Yep. >> The first spec.
00:58:27
>> Mhm. >> It comes in two screen sizes. The Pro, which is 6.3 in, and the Pro XL, which
00:58:32
is 6.7 in. Second spec. >> Yep. >> 7 years of software updates. >> Mhm.
00:58:37
>> The third spec comes with a year of Google AI Pro, a $239 value. I'm like trying every single thing.
00:58:46
>> The seven years is of uh security updates and pixel drops, not fullon software updates. Are there
00:58:52
technicalities like this? >> There have to be. >> There are, but I'm pulling this straight
00:58:56
from their website. >> And you said seven >> seven years of software updates.
00:59:01
>> I think that's a lie. >> That's my guess because it's security
00:59:04
updates, not >> Yeah. And and pixel drops. I think it's the lie because in seven years uh AI
00:59:10
will have destroyed humanity so they won't be able seven years of new features and updates if that changes it.
00:59:15
>> It does. >> Okay. >> Okay. So >> 6.3 and 6.7 does that sound right for
00:59:23
>> 6.3 6.7? Yes, that sounds right. 10 Pro 10 Pro XL. Yep. >> And then
00:59:29
>> or did they change the screen size by 0.1 or was that Apple? I have the Pro on
00:59:33
my desk. I'm fair Oh, no. I think that's right. I think that's right. 6.3.
00:59:37
>> So maybe it doesn't come with Google AI Pro for a year. >> I thought it did.
00:59:41
>> Or maybe it wasn't a $230. >> Oh, it doesn't come with Ultra.
00:59:44
>> No. >> No, it doesn't. That's crazy. >> That's the $200 one.
00:59:48
>> Pro is $20 a month. >> Do you want me to reread that? >> Sounds like something that would come.
00:59:51
>> Let's hear it one more time, Adam. >> Two screen sizes. The Pro 6.3 in and the
00:59:56
Pro XL 6.7 in. Seven years of new features and updates or comes with a year of Google AI Pro, a $239 value.
01:00:06
>> Is it not a $239 value? >> This is the easy one. >> This is the easy one because it's like a
01:00:13
very modern device. It's like things off their website, you know. >> C.
01:00:16
>> I think it's C. Yeah. >> All right. Part of me thinks he's
01:00:20
throwing one screen size off. >> Go see. I'll go see. Let's go. C is the last C is the last.
01:00:28
>> Wrong. We get the point. >> What? >> The size. >> The Pro XL was 6.8 in.
01:00:32
>> I knew they changed it by 6.9. >> 6.8. >> I knew they changed it by 0.1 in.
01:00:39
>> Okay, you got us. >> Yay. >> Damn it. >> We're losing this game.
01:00:45
>> Also, can I just say uh I love that we b well not we, but the Royal Wii bullied
01:00:50
these Google into seven years of software updates. We slowly we slowly bullied these companies into actually
01:00:57
providing seven years is a long time. I mean, didn't the iPhone what iPhone just
01:01:01
got an update after like 10 years recently? There was some headline. It was just some security update.
01:01:05
>> Oh, it was like a security. Yeah. >> It was like a four, wasn't it?
01:01:09
>> But very few companies update things for seven years. That's a long time.
01:01:12
>> They usually forget it exists after one year. >> Yeah. You know, Marquez, I'm really glad
01:01:15
you brought that up because the next product >> on our list, arguably the greatest
01:01:21
consumer product ever released by any company ever. >> I know a lot about the human AI pin for
01:01:27
sure. >> Better than the human AI pen. >> Oh, >> more benefit to society than penicellin.
01:01:34
>> The iPhone 12 mini. >> The wheel. >> Are you guys way more than the wheel?
01:01:40
Way more than fire. >> Dude, I'm too hot. Anyway, >> he's that
01:01:45
>> guys. iPhone 12 mini >> a the iPhone 12 mini has a screen to body ratio greater than 85%. The iPhone
01:01:56
12 mini is the oldest iPhone still fully compatible with iOS 26. Fully compatible. I'm not talking about
01:02:03
security patches. I'm talking about iOS 26. >> That's right. I think the 11 is
01:02:09
>> the iPhone 12 mini was part of the first series of iPhones to have ceramic
01:02:14
shield. >> I think the 11 is the the 11 is the 26 one. >> I swear Ellis said something about his
01:02:22
phone being the last. >> It was one of the ones that had ceramic shield cuz the 12 the 12 is what added
01:02:28
ceramic shield. I do remember the I feel like I remember 12 being ceramic shield.
01:02:32
>> It was. Yeah. >> And then what what was the first thing again? The iPhone 12 mini has a screen
01:02:35
to body ratio greater than 85%. >> It's probably like 86. >> I kind of think it's like just under.
01:02:41
>> I think it has under 85% >> cuz I think the notch in a phone that
01:02:45
small >> Yeah. >> and it's bezels. >> If we're thinking about OG like screen
01:02:50
to body ratios, we're like 88. >> I need I need I need one solid answer.
01:02:54
>> It's a Well, I got outvoted. >> So, the screen to body ratio is the lie.
01:02:58
>> Yes. Got outvoted, >> guys. What? The screen to body ratio of the iPhone 12 mini is 85.1%.
01:03:05
Making it higher than 85%. You want to know something even more infuriating? >> It's the 11.
01:03:10
>> It's the 11, baby. >> Guys, >> when will you learn to listen to me?
01:03:15
>> The one before I said I think it's the screen size and you told me no.
01:03:18
>> Yeah, I didn't know about that. >> I know about this one. >> So, the iPhone 11 is the one that's
01:03:24
fully supported. >> iPhone 11 is the oldest phone. Fully supported. I IO. >> You did call that immediately. Good.
01:03:30
>> Wow. >> Immediately. You guys ready for number three? >> Any hesitation?
01:03:33
>> Well, David got his one right, so he can't get any other right so far. So,
01:03:37
>> go get any hesitation. >> We're losing, guys. We're down.
01:03:40
>> All right. All right. Oculus Rift S. >> Okay. >> It was made by Oculus VR and Lenovo.
01:03:47
>> Used an OLED panel with an 80 Hz refresh rate. >> Featured software only IPD adjustment.
01:03:55
IPD meaning interpupilary distance. >> That sounds insane. Um, >> how do you do that?
01:04:00
>> It's 90 Hz. >> Wait, can you say the three things again? Because I didn't I thought you
01:04:06
were still explaining the Oculus Rift. I didn't know you were doing the thing.
01:04:09
>> Partnered made in partnership with Lenovo. >> Okay. >> Uses an OLED panel that has an 80 Hz
01:04:14
refresh rate. >> No, it's got to be 90. >> Featured uh software. Oh. Had software
01:04:20
only IPD interupary distance. >> I'm pretty sure Valve put out like a paper that said for people to not get
01:04:26
sick, it has to be 90 or higher. That sounds >> I think a lot of these companies focused
01:04:31
on 90 Hz. >> I want to believe David again. >> I've also seen some weird refresh rates
01:04:37
on VR headsets. >> Yeah, >> like 48. >> Really? >> And 96.
01:04:44
>> 48. Maybe not 48. That sounds too low. >> That sounds too low. >> But let's go with that. I got to say
01:04:50
this one for stipulation. I'm not as sure. >> Nope. Nope. cuz I've never seen software
01:04:57
only IPD ever. I've never heard of that. >> You mean fiated rendering?
01:05:01
>> No. When like the when you first set up a headset and you hear the motors move
01:05:04
the lenses to match your eyes. I've never heard of software only IPD. I mean
01:05:08
I've it's possible that the Rift is the cheapest one in >> but this is the Rift.
01:05:12
>> This is like >> this is the crazy one. >> The Rift S, >> which was I believe the last one before
01:05:17
I had >> A was made by Lenovo. >> A was made by Oculus VR and Lenovo. Did
01:05:23
Lenovo make this? I don't know that one at all. I don't know. >> Lenovo could be behind a thousand
01:05:29
products and I would never know about it. >> We have no clue. >> Behind every great product is even
01:05:34
greater. >> There's somewhere in that product is the little red mouse button.
01:05:38
>> You see, is it still a Valve paper? They probably wouldn't ship their own under
01:05:42
90 Hz. >> No, but Valve Yeah, but that's the but that's the val that's Valve. That's not
01:05:47
Lenovo/ Oculus. >> Oculus. like Oculus might have. >> I feel like Lenovo did not make the
01:05:53
Oculus S. >> Yeah, I go that. I don't see them in that space at all. >> I need Yeah, I'll confirm. I'll go with
01:06:04
that. But >> yeah, I think it's because they they did make the Windows VR headset, the Lenovo
01:06:08
Windows VR headset, but that was not Oculus S. >> So, I'd say but it means they've been in
01:06:13
that space before. >> This is a shot in the dark. >> Shot in the dark Lenovo. Yeah,
01:06:18
>> Lenovo is a lie. >> Oh my god. >> Wow, you guys are doing great.
01:06:23
>> Oh my god. >> It was an LCD panel, not an OLED panel. >> That was the guy.
01:06:28
>> He said OLED. >> Should have heard OLED cuz that feels really obvious now that I
01:06:33
>> didn't even >> You guys were going so hard on everything else. I was like, they missed
01:06:36
the most obvious. >> What number was that? >> That was B. Number two. Used an OLED
01:06:39
panel with an 80 Hz refresh rate. >> And I knew throwing the hertz in there
01:06:43
would really get you guys. When I was in Philly on Monday, I was like locked in. When I was When I
01:06:50
was in Philly on Monday, I went to a um this museum type thing where everything is a mosaic. And there's like a uh
01:06:56
there's like a thing where you have to find specific things in the mosaic. And
01:07:01
it's this felt like one of those things where you're staring directly at it, but
01:07:05
you just didn't see the one thing that it asked for. And I just didn't even
01:07:09
hear you guys say OLED. So, I wasn't even thinking about it. I was thinking about everything around it. Yeah.
01:07:14
>> Okay. This This one This one should be way easier, I think. >> Okay. I'm I'm locked in.
01:07:17
>> Lock in. Lock in. Lock in. Lock in. >> Locked in. >> There's a three-pointer.
01:07:20
>> This category. This one's >> This one's You know how confident I am?
01:07:26
Like a This is an eight pointer. Let's do it. >> Ready? >> All right.
01:07:32
>> There is a cucumber emoji. >> No, there's >> There is an orca emoji.
01:07:37
>> There is. Seen it. >> There is. >> There is a barbecue emoji.
01:07:40
>> There's no cucumber. >> Barbecue. like a barbecue like the stand. I've seen that too. It's There is
01:07:46
no cucumber. >> It's the cucumber. >> Cucumber. Final answer. >> Cucumber.
01:07:49
>> Cucumber. >> Final answer. >> Final answer. >> Is it the barbecue?
01:07:54
>> Yeah, there's there's no barbecue because I don't remember a barbecue.
01:07:56
>> It's probably because Slack might have its own barbecue emoji. >> Yeah. Also, that was sort of a trick
01:08:00
question cuz the Orca is not in iOS yet, but it is in Unicode. >> What? >> Yeah. They just haven't added it to the
01:08:08
Apple Apple keyboard yet. >> But you didn't say Apple. I didn't. Which is why there Oh my god, there's a
01:08:12
cucumber. There is a That's why there's just if you search Orca emoji on your
01:08:17
iPhone, it will not come up. >> I can't believe there's a cucumber and a
01:08:20
pickle. Oh my god, there is a cucumber. >> Wait, there's a cucumber and pickle.
01:08:22
>> The pickle is also not I actually think the pickle is going to be >> I don't see a pickle.
01:08:26
>> It's the same as a cucumber. >> No, no, no, no, no. I have the answer to
01:08:29
this. The pickle is So, right now we're the most recent like confirmed approved
01:08:34
in Unicode emoji is 17. That's not in iOS. 18 is going to get confirmed I think in
01:08:42
the coming weeks. And there is a pickle I believe in emoji 18. >> What's the difference?
01:08:48
>> Literally pickled. >> I want to see like how they make the visual difference between that.
01:08:53
>> Next, Android Honeycomb. >> Mhm. >> This is on you. >> Famous for its hollow user interface.
01:09:00
>> Yep. >> Debuted on the Samsung Galaxy Nexus. >> No. >> Introduced recent apps for multitasking.
01:09:08
>> Yeah. Which one is >> honeycomb is five, >> I believe. >> And it debuted on the zoom on the t
01:09:14
Yeah, the zoom tablet. Motorola Zoom. >> Yeah. So, >> agree. >> Yeah.
01:09:18
>> Unless it's wrong. >> Are you locking it in? >> Honeycom is a tablet UI only. So, it did
01:09:22
not debut on the Galaxy. >> Four tablets. It had to be. Yeah. >> The Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
01:09:27
>> It was hollow on >> the Galaxy Nexus is a phone. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. It was ice cream sandwich on the
01:09:31
Nexus 4.0 and then uh five was >> But just to be sure, can you reread The question and the possible answers.
01:09:40
>> The question is, Android Honeycomb. Here are the three things about it. One,
01:09:46
famous for its hollow user interface. Two, debuted on the Samsung Galaxy Nexus. Three, introduced recent apps for
01:09:55
multitasking. >> It didn't debut on the Nexus. >> Honeycomb. Honeycomb.
01:10:02
Eclair Freyo. Gingerbread. Honeycomb ice cream sandwich >> ice cream sandwich was 4.0 right
01:10:12
on the >> I'm fairly sure that honeycomb was famous for hollow. It was for tablets
01:10:20
and it debuted on my Motorola Zoom and it later showed up on the Asus Transformer tablet. So I'm going with
01:10:26
>> Yeah. >> the debuted on a Nexus. >> That's correct. >> Correct. Finally, they're on the board
01:10:31
with one. >> We're goss. >> That was a layup. Gosh. >> All right, let's do let's hit him with
01:10:36
another Marquez. I guess that was that all of you guys knew that. But this one's really the Marquez special, but
01:10:41
you should all also know it except maybe >> Andrew off. >> Well, no, it's not. It's cuz you use the
01:10:48
other one sometimes >> cuz this product is >> I wish I had a drum roll. I guess that's
01:10:54
the next button I got to put. Um, Final Cut Pro was originally called Keygrip and developed by a company called
01:11:02
Macromedia. Final Cut Pro was acquired by Apple in 2001. And Marquez, this one is just for you. You can temporarily
01:11:11
disable Final Cut Pro's signature feature, the magnetic timeline, by holding down the TY key. He's never done
01:11:19
that before. >> I know he does it in a different crazy way. >> You can do that. You
01:11:26
Okay, we're here. >> I could be lying. >> Allegedly. >> So,
01:11:30
>> so when I was in high school, I was using Final Cut >> six, I believe.
01:11:35
>> Seven, probably. >> And that was 1864, right? Yeah. I used >> It may have made it seven by my senior
01:11:41
year. My senior year in high school is 2008. >> So, if 2001 was when it got acquired, that would
01:11:49
presumably be Final Cut one. Mhm. >> And then so the timing kind of >> like
01:11:55
>> matches up right then. >> So if we're facteing the 2001 part because I remember Apple acquired it. I
01:12:00
remember it was Keygrip before. >> Okay. >> I don't remember the name of the company
01:12:03
that developed it, which if that's the gotcha, then I'm not going to get it.
01:12:06
But it was Keygrip and it was acquired by Apple. And if so, if 2001 makes sense, then the things that we're
01:12:12
facteing are the tilda or the name of the company that owned it before Apple. >> 2001. The 2001 could be like a year off.
01:12:21
>> I'll make it a little more interesting. >> It's not the name of the company is not
01:12:25
the gotcha here. I'm not saying whether it was actually called Keygrip or not,
01:12:29
but we're not we're not double double tricking you on that. >> I was using Final Cut 7 in 2006 through
01:12:35
2008. I know that for sure. >> Okay. So, but that was already owned by Apple by then.
01:12:41
>> Yeah. >> Yeah, it was >> Yeah. Final Cut Pro. I didn't >> actually I don't know if it was owned by
01:12:46
Apple by then. I think I just used it on a Mac. >> It was pretty It was pretty much like
01:12:51
the Apple thing. It was actually one of its most popular versions was seven. >> Yeah.
01:12:57
>> Uh >> so is the gotcha there potentially? >> So keygrip turned it into Final Cut
01:13:02
before Apple acquired it or >> Oh no. >> Is that what you guys are saying? Cuz I
01:13:07
just assumed when Apple acquired it that's when it became Final Cut. >> Yeah, Apple.
01:13:10
>> But I don't know the lore there. >> So did Apple acquire Final Cut or did
01:13:13
they acquire Keygrip? That's not the gotcha either. >> Okay. >> So, the gotcha is either the tilda or
01:13:19
>> I think it's the tilda to screw with you. >> There's no there's no there's no it's
01:13:23
just one of them is just a line. >> Could be the tilda. >> The tilda.
01:13:26
>> I think they're trying to >> Maybe you can hold down another key.
01:13:29
>> Yeah, I think it's the tilda. I don't think you can disable magnetic timeline.
01:13:32
I think you can disable magnetism of clips like your your play head with the tilda. Or maybe not the tilda, but you
01:13:39
can disable and enable magnetic uh snapping. >> Oh, yeah. but not the whole magnetic
01:13:44
timeline. >> I think it is snapping. >> So, I'm going to go with I'm going to go
01:13:47
with C is the actual Yos. I think it's snapping. >> What do you mean? >> What in like the magnetic snapping?
01:13:56
>> You can disable magnetic snapping, but >> So, the magnetic timeline is when you're
01:14:00
dropping clips onto the timeline itself and when you shorten a clip, every single clip after it moves with it. If
01:14:06
you don't use that and you you stack above and below the magnetic timeline, you can still snap clips together
01:14:13
instead of having to get to the exact key frame because of the magnetic feature.
01:14:18
>> Okay. >> Of the playhead. >> I get it. I get it. This one I just have
01:14:21
to think. >> So, >> we were right. >> You're not right. But the thing is is
01:14:25
like because it's kind of like accidentally right because >> the best kind.
01:14:29
>> So, the the the tilt just lets you move clips everywhere. They don't they don't
01:14:34
magnetize to stuff. >> I don't know if when you're moving stuff with the ty the tilda key if other stuff
01:14:39
still snaps to it. If you just want other stuff to not if you just want other clips to not respond magnetically,
01:14:47
you use the P key which switches to the position tool. So now I'm like you're
01:14:52
wrong, but like you may have accidentally like stumbled on a right answer because I wasn't like specific
01:14:57
enough, you know, >> which deals in line with OLED versus LCD. Is keygrip also a lie? No, I'll
01:15:03
give you that one just because No, Key Rip is is true and it we lied about the year it was acquired.
01:15:07
>> Okay. >> I feel like I should give you that point just because you did get me on the
01:15:11
specifics. >> Yeah. >> Final Cut 7 was released in 2009 or so. >> I Well, you got to cut the part where I
01:15:17
said I was using in 2006. >> Wait, what the was I using then? >> Six.
01:15:22
>> They look exactly the same. Six and seven were exactly the same >> in 2006.
01:15:27
>> They were just Who knows? Speaking of sevens, the iPhone 7. Okay. iPhone 7. Yep.
01:15:34
>> Comes in rose gold, gold, silver, black, jet black, and product red. >> Mhm.
01:15:41
>> Has a 32, 64, and 128 GB capacity. >> That's the lie. That's the lie. Featured
01:15:47
the A10 Fusion chip. >> It's There's no It Sorry, there's no 128,
01:15:53
>> right? >> 3264. >> Can you say it? But I like David's conviction.
01:15:58
the confidence to the level of interruption there. >> Sorry. >> No, no, no, no, no, no. I like inter if
01:16:05
you interrupt him. I'm team David here. We're like, that's how I know.
01:16:08
>> I'm interrupting. So, the first one >> comes in rose gold, gold, silver, black.
01:16:14
>> Can I interrupt? I don't know what we're talking about. >> iPhone 7.
01:16:17
>> iPhone. >> iPhone 7. >> All the colors were okay. >> Rose gold, gold, silver, black, jet
01:16:24
black, and product red. Number two, has a 32, 64, or 128 GB capacity. >> And number three, featured the A10
01:16:34
Fusion chip. >> Okay, I remember the jet black iPhone. Wasn't that the
01:16:37
>> No, there. No, I agree. But he said rose gold and gold. >> Yeah, painted.
01:16:41
>> No, he was saying Oh, >> he said it came in rose gold and gold. I
01:16:44
thought it just came in one of those. >> I'm just trying to remember. >> And then it came in black and gold.
01:16:47
>> They never had a truly gold. >> The phone that had a jet black didn't
01:16:51
also have a black though, right? >> No, I thought it did. >> Really? I thought it it wasn't only one
01:16:56
of them, the like seven plus. I think seven was right with the jet black because that thing that was right when I
01:17:02
started working. >> That wasn't the eight. >> No, cuz the eight came out with the 10.
01:17:06
>> We haven't even started discussing the fusion chip though. We haven't even
01:17:09
started discussing >> or we feel like it's the seven that had gold, rose gold, black, and jet black.
01:17:16
>> I don't think there was gold and rose gold. Has Apple ever released a purely
01:17:20
gold phone? I don't think so. >> Yeah. >> What? What >> was there like a 5S that was gold?
01:17:25
There's like silver and a gold version. >> Yeah. >> I thought they've always been rose gold.
01:17:29
>> That might have been rose gold. >> Silver and gold. Silver. >> I don't know why I'm nodding and
01:17:33
shaking. >> Yeah, I don't either. I don't know if you're >> I think it was rose gold cuz it was like
01:17:36
pink. >> Rose gold's pink, right? >> Yeah. >> They never had a phone that had also
01:17:40
gold >> was >> I don't know. >> Eight. The rose gold that just looked
01:17:43
like a band-aid. >> That cuz that was glass back, right? >> Yeah. Eight was glass back.
01:17:49
>> Seven. >> What color? >> Well, I guess. Wait, wait. It was seven
01:17:53
glass back or metal back? >> Seven. Uh, >> it was glass, right? >> Yeah, cuz the eight was the first
01:17:59
wireless char. Yeah, first wireless charging iPhone was the eight. >> So then seven was
01:18:04
>> seven had a jet black glossy version, but it didn't uh wireless charge. I
01:18:10
remember that phone. It was like super It fingerprints. It had like scratches super easily. Single camera,
01:18:16
>> but I don't think it had wireless charging. But it was the one that was
01:18:18
like polished. No, they added wireless charging on the 11 eight. >> No, the 12. Oh, wireless charging.
01:18:25
>> Wireless charging. >> Eight. Mag Safe was 12. >> Didn't 10 they had wireless charging.
01:18:30
>> Eight and 10 came out at the same time. >> Yeah, eight and 10 at the same time.
01:18:33
Yeah. >> What are they talking? >> So, the Zoom, the iPhone 7, did it have
01:18:43
gold? Sounds like too many colors. >> Rose gold? >> I don't think it had gold.
01:18:46
>> Silver? >> I think it's the color. Can I make a clarification question? Yeah. When you
01:18:50
say seven, do you mean seven lineup or just the seven? Are you counting seven plus?
01:18:55
>> On Apple's website for documentation in technical specifications, it just says
01:19:00
iPhone 7. >> I don't think it came in gold and rose gold. I don't remember an iPhone 7 in
01:19:05
regular gold color. >> I'm like wondering if one of them came in the seven and one came in the
01:19:10
>> aluminum. Aluminium >> gold and rose. I can picture it with the antenna bands, but maybe I'm just making
01:19:18
that up in my head. >> No. >> A10 fusion chip. Is that um >> I don't think there's any way to know.
01:19:25
>> Well, we're on A10. >> We're A10 in the iPhone 10. >> We're on A8, right?
01:19:31
>> Wait, let's go backwards. A10 in the iPhone 7 would mean A9 in the iPhone 6,
01:19:36
which would mean A8 in the iPhone 5. Or wait, 6S. >> Well, no, no, no, no, no. We should go
01:19:41
back from the top because we start. We're on iOS 26 right now. >> Shut up.
01:19:46
>> A iPhone 17. >> So it' be a 16 is a 17. 15 is 16. 14 is 13. >> 12 is
01:19:58
>> No, no, no. 13 is 12. >> iPhone 13 >> is 12 >> is A12.
01:20:03
>> Yo, for any young aspiring podcast >> iPhone 12 is a 13. >> Shut up. iPhone 12 is A3. iPhone 11 is a
01:20:16
12. iPhone 10 >> 10/8 is A1 A1. So it would be A10. Yeah. >> A10 Fusion.
01:20:25
>> Okay. It lines up. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Or did they not do the
01:20:29
>> I hope it's the gold thing cuz it said it 14 minutes ago. >> Let's go with the gold. Let's go with
01:20:33
the colors. >> What about the fuse? >> No. >> David was right at the beginning. David
01:20:38
interrupted the question and was right. >> There's no 128. Well, there's no 64, but
01:20:43
it was the storage thing. >> The courage of my convictions, bro. We got to go.
01:20:46
>> Wait, they had >> So, they had a 32 and a 128, >> and they had a gold and a rose gold and
01:20:52
a black and a jet black. >> 32, 128, 256 were the storage options. >> They just went from 32 to 128.
01:21:00
>> What's even funnier is at the top of the page, they have the gold and the rose
01:21:04
gold right next to each other. So, you guys are like, there's no way they never
01:21:06
did both gold and rose gold. We're just like looking at these two. I forgot that
01:21:09
they used to do like 32 and then if you if you pay the money you can get like a real storage.
01:21:15
>> Wait, that gold one's kind of nice. Was this the best lineup of colors
01:21:18
>> and it had the best camera? >> Dude, this red. >> Gold is really good. And that was a good
01:21:22
product red with the like metal. >> Yeah, iPhone 7 was the best. >> Jet black was overrated though. Damn, I
01:21:26
forgot they did black and jet black. >> Jet black sucked. But black was good.
01:21:29
>> Black fire. Damn. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay, >> guys. This one's not a trick. There's no
01:21:33
That saying that really makes it sound like it's a trick. I was going to say
01:21:37
>> this one's just like straight up true or lie. Ready? >> This the the consumer product
01:21:44
>> for this one. >> The pause means there's a trick somewhere in here.
01:21:48
>> The trick is that it's not a consumer product. It's facts about me. Ellis,
01:21:53
>> facts about >> Are you ready? Fact number one. >> Mhm. >> I have owned two phones with full cordy
01:22:01
keyboards, physical cordy keyboards on them. two phones over the course of my entire life.
01:22:07
>> Okay. >> Fact number two, I owned three iPhones before the iPhone lost the home button.
01:22:15
Meaning I had three iPhones between one and eight, right? Yeah. >> Can Never mind.
01:22:22
>> Yeah. No, clarify. Hit it. >> I feel like saying three is this exact
01:22:26
number. Is it like more than three or less? >> No. Exact number. If it's it's either
01:22:30
three or everything else. >> Same thing with the two. And get it. Last fact, I have only ever owned one
01:22:40
phone in my entire 12-year-old life that had a T9 dialer keypad. And you know what I mean when I say T9? I mean
01:22:49
>> 12 buttons arranged in a three column four row grid. >> Was it the LG Voyager?
01:22:55
I'm not I can't >> the Voyager had a touch screen and No, >> it wasn't.
01:23:03
>> So, one phone with a T9 keypad. >> Mhm. >> Three iPhones with home buttons.
01:23:10
>> Mhm. >> Two phones with full cordy keyboards. >> I >> It's three iPhones.
01:23:15
>> I think it's I don't think he owned a phone with a T9 keyboard.
01:23:19
>> I think he did. >> I think that's the lie. >> Oh, yeah. You're right. Do you remember
01:23:23
when he said he bought his first phone and it was >> it was a slider slider phone. It was
01:23:27
like a Yagasaki or whatever. >> Yes. A T9 would be >> what? >> Like a Yamaha
01:23:34
Mitsubishi. >> Matsubishi. >> So if the first phone slider, then we're
01:23:38
going >> I think we never owned a T knife. >> Yeah, I think it was the slider only.
01:23:43
>> No, it was the Yamaha Kawasaki hybrid. >> My first phone was Korean. It was a
01:23:49
Samsung. It was a Samsung. >> Was it really? Yes. >> Did it have T9?
01:23:54
>> Oh, no. >> Andrew, you are correct. I never owned >> I know nothing about tech and everything
01:23:59
about Ellis. That's >> it's great as it should be. >> That was a six-pointer.
01:24:05
>> Six pointer. So, we're Oh, we're we're ahead. >> I did not.
01:24:07
>> Did you say that? >> No. >> Working 9 to5. >> So, score producers five hosts three.
01:24:14
Next question. >> Okay. >> Is about Microsoft. Number one. The first Microsoft Store
01:24:20
was in Scottsdale, Arizona. Number two, Bing is actually the rebrand of an older
01:24:27
Microsoft search engine called Live Search. Or number three, while the Zoom no longer lives, the music store where
01:24:34
you can get files for Zoom, Groove Music, is still up and running. Which one is it?
01:24:40
>> What? >> One of these. >> The >> I feel like the first store was in um
01:24:46
Santa Clara. So, I I can picture like the first ever Microsoft store uh and us all going, "Oh, wow. It's a pretty glass
01:24:52
store." But I don't remember where that was. >> I would assume it's in Washington,
01:24:57
>> which is where the HQ is. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I think the other thing I'm thinking
01:25:01
about is I own a Zoom HD and never once used whatever he said was the name of the music store.
01:25:08
>> It would not be up and running still, right? >> No way. >> Groove Music. I remember Groove Music. I
01:25:12
remember Groove. >> That feels like the weird thing that we're supposed to pick. I didn't use
01:25:16
Groove Music. I used the Zoom store and bought I bought music from the Zoom store. I never I don't think it was
01:25:21
called Groove Music. >> I don't think >> I would pick that. >> I'm pretty sure there is a Groove Music.
01:25:27
>> What was it for? >> Music. >> But like for what? >> I mean, so for PC or like what would you
01:25:34
why would you buy it? >> I think it was like an MP3 purchasing platform. >> Well, because it was like old iTunes
01:25:41
where you used to buy your songs individually. So, that makes sense. And I could see it have potentially
01:25:46
pivoting. >> I need I need to clarify one of the things in this because a little more
01:25:51
nuance. The the first like Microsoft store as we know Microsoft stores to exist was in fact in Scottsdale,
01:25:57
Arizona. I can confirm that. >> Um there was a like prototype Microsoft store like like seven or eight years
01:26:05
before this opened that was operated by like a Sony consumer retail division uh in San Francisco. So it was there for
01:26:14
like a twoish years. So >> technically there was a retail experience called the Microsoft store.
01:26:22
However, what we now know as Microsoft's Microsoft Store retail thing. Scott
01:26:28
Arizona is still factually correct there. >> So now you got a 5050 chance.
01:26:32
>> Yeah, we have a 50-50 chance. >> I I Oh. >> All right. Yeah.
01:26:38
>> So, probably like I don't think Groove is still up and running unless they
01:26:41
pivoted to a streaming service, but I doubt it because who would >> I >> I don't know where Bing came from.
01:26:46
>> I I feel like it has to be the >> feels right. >> The groove is the thing Adam wants us to
01:26:53
pick >> because it feels so obviously not. >> Does it help to say that I did not write
01:26:59
this question? >> No. Um calling something live feels really on brand. >> It does. which could be is it two on
01:27:09
brand called live >> live translation. >> Come on, it's right in front of you.
01:27:12
Come on, you got this. You got this. >> I know it's there. I just >> later tonight we'll play some Halo and
01:27:17
hop on. >> Oh, Xbox Live. >> Also, thank you. >> Live translation and uh
01:27:24
>> I don't it Windows Live. Windows Live. >> What's Windows?
01:27:29
>> What was the name of the search engine you're saying? >> Live search.
01:27:32
>> Live search. >> Yeah, >> that live search. It feels like >> I can picture the blue in the logo.
01:27:39
>> Life search. I don't I know it's Microsoft. >> If I was making up a fake early
01:27:46
generation like internet search engine name, >> especially from >> I would call it live search cuz I'm
01:27:52
searching the internet live. >> It makes more sense to ask Jeeves, but >> I know
01:27:57
>> we all remember that instead. >> Bing. I don't remember a a time before
01:28:03
Bing. Maybe I'm too young. >> Whoa. I really don't remember the great
01:28:07
LLM at this point. >> Did you have a time base in there or did you just say it was before Bing? Damn, I
01:28:11
can't remember pre-banging. There's like BC. >> PB PB and AB. >> Yeah, I'm I'm exclusively a postb uh
01:28:21
type person. >> We just live in the postb world. >> So, I think I have to choose the the
01:28:25
Zoom one. >> I'll go I'm somehow fight. I don't believe either of them somehow or I do.
01:28:31
Yeah, I don't know. >> I remember group music. I don't if they're still operating. They pivoted.
01:28:36
>> So what? So let's go with that. >> Yeah. What's the answer I need you guys
01:28:38
to >> Well, they just said they're still operating, right? >> Yeah.
01:28:42
>> So it's probably the other one. >> So you think it's the search? I'll go
01:28:45
with search. >> I'm thinking search. >> Okay, I'll go with that.
01:28:52
>> Guys, our group music is not operating anymore. >> You guys had a 50/50 chance. We gave you
01:28:58
that one. >> Coin flip. You walked in too hard. What's funny is if you didn't say the
01:29:02
other thing, I probably would have argued that we should pick Scottsdale. >> All right. Well, this next one you guys
01:29:06
need to get because two out of three of you have lived in this state your entire
01:29:09
life. So, >> oh boy. Okay, >> guys. That's right. This final category,
01:29:14
this final consumer product is the great state of New Jersey. >> Well, I'm going to get this wrong.
01:29:23
>> The top half of New Jersey. First fact, >> the first baseball game ever recorded as
01:29:31
being played was played in Hoboken, New Jersey. >> The first baseball game.
01:29:37
>> The first the first baseball game that is like recorded and we have the score
01:29:40
and what happened. >> It's so funny thinking of Hoboka now, >> but like baseball has been around for a
01:29:48
very long time. So, >> in true New Jersey sports fashion, both of the teams were named for New York
01:29:54
City. >> It was the New York Knicker Bachers versus the New York Nine. >> Second New Jersey fact.
01:30:02
>> New Jersey has a spoon museum in Patterson. This spoon museum has over 5600
01:30:10
spoons. >> I can see that >> species of spoons. >> Watch the technicality of 5,599. Third
01:30:18
New Jersey fact. New Jerseyy's very own Atlantic City is the basis for the property names in the
01:30:28
popular board game. Yeah, >> that's true. >> Shoots and Les Candy. You guys ever played Candy Land?
01:30:38
Like, >> hell yeah, bro. >> But you've never been to the gumdrop
01:30:40
forest in New Jersey. >> The gumdrop where B is. >> Okay. Um, the spoons one, I have no
01:30:47
idea. I've never heard of it, but it wouldn't shock me. So, that's where I'm
01:30:51
at with that one. The Monopoly one, I know that that is true and I believe there's no gotchas in there. That sounds
01:30:56
correct. >> Yeah. >> So, the first one is the first ever baseball game recorded was in Hoboken.
01:31:04
>> Was it called Hoboken at the time? >> The first ever baseball game is so long
01:31:09
ago. >> Yeah, so long ago. Hoboken was I mean Hoboken. Okay. To be fair, Stevens was
01:31:16
founded in like the 1870s, but baseball's older than that, right? >> What came first, baseball or Hoboken?
01:31:21
>> What is How old is the first baseball game? >> Yeah. When did the Louisiana Purchase
01:31:25
happened? >> Hold on. I'll be >> The first The first baseball game ever
01:31:29
recorded. >> What year could that be? >> I'm getting it for you.
01:31:34
>> 1894. >> BB before Bing >> cuz I'm fairly sure >> 46.
01:31:40
>> Damn. So Stevens was founded in Hoboken in like 1876. So, I guess it's it's
01:31:44
possible that there was a Hoboken in 1840 something. Wow. >> It's probably called like New York
01:31:50
extension at that point. >> New York across the river. >> New York. Oh, was that part of it that
01:31:56
they're called New York nines and New York Nickerbuckers? >> Probably.
01:32:00
>> I have no idea if that's probably >> that wasn't part of the actual question.
01:32:03
That was just more context. The Hoboken thing. >> No, the New York teams the teams. I
01:32:10
can't believe you haven't commented on anything that this was a technically a
01:32:13
Knicks game. >> I know. >> Yeah, Nicker Buckers was funny. >> New Jersey Knicks.
01:32:18
>> They had Jaylen Brunson. >> I don't know. >> Patterson.
01:32:26
>> Might as well be the Spoon Museum. I have no idea. >> Spoon. >> I know very little about
01:32:30
>> I bet it wasn't called Hoboken. That's my guess. >> I kind of think
01:32:34
>> Is it a fork museum instead? I I kind of think the Spoon Museum >> I think that's
01:32:40
>> I have no opinion. The Spoon Museum seems like one that we would skip over
01:32:44
and just assume it's true. And I think that's what makes it a good lie. >> Can I suggest that maybe we make this
01:32:49
worth four points? >> So either you win or you lose on this answer. >> All right. All right. That's fine.
01:32:56
>> Changes my confidence in this question. >> We're going to just guess anyway.
01:33:00
>> All right. And your guess is >> Spoon Museum. Spoon. >> Spoon Museum is correct. Not just David.
01:33:06
was correct again. The spoon museum only has 5,400 spoons, not the affforementioned 5600.
01:33:13
>> Wait, so the lie is not that there's a spoon museum. >> No, there is a spoon museum in
01:33:16
Patterson. It just doesn't have quite as many. >> That's actually right. Oh my god.
01:33:20
>> I thought they said there was a fork museum. >> No, earlier in the episode I said I said
01:33:25
watch the technicality is going to be that it has like 5599. >> So they they have they say over 5,400.
01:33:32
So not not the over 5600. I said, which means you guys with your four points have taken it to seven points, meaning
01:33:39
you guys >> Hey, >> beat the hosts. >> Can you play the Can you play the
01:33:44
extravaganza music? >> David, I would take us to trivia. However, I heard because you told me 30
01:33:49
seconds ago that we have breaking news. Breaking news. This is WFRM. We're coming at you with some breaking
01:34:00
news here. Finally, we're not late on a topic. We talked about Ring earlier and
01:34:05
how uh Ring is going to not use Flock for its search party feature. It's kind
01:34:10
of not going forward with it. Um now there is a new report from 404 media that just dropped uh that has some
01:34:18
leaked emails from the CEO of Ring. >> Whoops. >> Where he says, "This is by far the most
01:34:25
innovation that we have ever launched in the history of Ring. And it is not only
01:34:28
the quality but quantity. I believe that the foundation we created with Search Party, first for finding dogs, will end
01:34:36
up becoming one of the most important pieces of tech and innovation to truly unlock the impact of our mission. You
01:34:42
can now see a future where we are able to zero out crime in neighborhoods. So many things to do when we get there. But
01:34:49
for the first time ever, we have the chance to fully complete compete complete what we started.
01:34:55
>> That was the ring CEO, not the Palanteer CEO. >> Yeah, it was the ring CEO.
01:34:58
>> Oh, okay. So, you know, they're like dogs only, dogs only, dogs only,
01:35:03
>> unless >> unless >> we we are so lucky, man. Like, ring guy
01:35:07
is going to like make crime zero. Sam Alman is going to make cancer zero. Elon is going to make poverty zero. Like,
01:35:14
these guys just are so good. >> They're so good at making alive. >> Thanks, boys.
01:35:19
>> You know, sometimes there's a little bit too much skepticism, but I think that we
01:35:24
have the perfect amount at this moment. >> Um, >> well, you know what? You should have
01:35:28
more skepticism about >> Yep. >> my trivia questions because so often
01:35:33
they require >> Oh my god, we haven't trivia yet. >> No. >> Mhm.
01:35:37
>> But we're about to do it now. >> And then we're going to do another game
01:35:40
in the next episode. >> Surprise. >> We're playing games, boy. I got games,
01:35:47
boy. >> Quick update on Marquez with 14. >> Still. >> Still. >> And still.
01:35:53
>> David with 16. >> Andrew with 17. Carrying the one. >> Carrying the one.
01:35:58
>> How long have I had 17 for? I don't think I have a point in the new year.
01:36:02
>> No, you have a point in the new year. It's just >> I don't have a point since Marquez
01:36:06
complained about not having a point in the new year. >> You think you haven't gotten a point in
01:36:10
like eight episodes? >> Since whenever Marquez whined about it, >> he cursed you.
01:36:16
>> He did curse me. >> It's like you're the Philadelphia 76ers
01:36:20
and Marquez is Jared McCain getting traded away. >> Yeah. God bless Jared McCain. Anyway, we
01:36:26
spoke about the Pixel 10A, but the first A series Pixel was the 3A. Which giant manufacturer made it?
01:36:36
And I mean like the company that actually manufactured it, not the one that designed it, because we all know
01:36:43
Google designed it. >> Oh, >> there's your hint, Andrew. >> BBK,
01:36:52
>> the great >> Who's that? >> Blues musician. I didn't think they I
01:36:55
didn't think they existed anymore. >> Flip them and read. What do you got?
01:37:02
>> What' you say? >> I hope I'm right. >> Uh, I said HTC.
01:37:06
>> David, what' you say? >> I said HTC. >> It's right.
01:37:11
>> Wrong. Andrew, what' you say? >> LG. >> Also wrong. It was Foxcon.
01:37:17
>> Really? >> Yeah. You guys looking it up before confused you. >> Well, that's a bummer.
01:37:21
>> I definitely thought you guys were going to get that one. I was trying to throw
01:37:25
you a bone. Now you're stuck with >> Foxcon. You thought Foxcon was throwing
01:37:28
us a bone. >> They make most of the phones in the world. >> Yeah, they made every phone actually. I
01:37:34
thought they Okay. Well, >> question number two, guys. Ring was not always called Ring. Before they were
01:37:44
Ring, they were called >> A. Doorbot, B. Ham bell C. Stoop watcher. Also, I should have
01:37:56
said stoop watcher does not have an E. It's just Stoop Watcher >> with an R.
01:38:00
>> Yeah, because this is like a real >> Oh, that does sound really un
01:38:04
>> Yeah. >> I mean, it depends where they were headquartered. >> Sesame Street.
01:38:11
>> Is that a real place? >> Sesame Street. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's in Atlantic City with the
01:38:14
rest of the Monopoly properties. Right next to the gumdrop floor. It's right into the gumdrop for
01:38:21
>> it's in New York City. >> You're at Taco Bell. >> Just read
01:38:29
>> Campbell. >> Who? Okay. What? What? >> We all put something different.
01:38:33
>> No, Marcus and I put the same thing. >> Yeah. Andrew and I put B. Campbell.
01:38:36
>> Campbell. Like the soup. >> Yeah. >> I wanted that to be right so bad.
01:38:42
>> I put C stoop watcher. >> No, it was called doorbot. >> My god,
01:38:47
>> you guys are on one. Dorba is a what? Doorbot. >> It's a horrible name.
01:38:52
>> This makes it easy for me cuz I don't have to update the sword graphic. So,
01:38:55
>> it's the same graphic for like 6 weeks. >> We thought it was called Camell.
01:39:00
>> Instant. That was >> instant cease and desist. >> You guys are getting good at when we ask
01:39:04
questions to like >> answer the questions on the fake things really believably.
01:39:10
>> Honestly, when Ellis said with an R, I should have known it wasn't that one.
01:39:13
Well, we tried. Um, doorbot. I think like most of this podcast was just Adam and I not telling the truth
01:39:20
>> like >> and us like floundering and Yeah, it's but >> yeah,
01:39:25
>> what makes it a bot? >> I don't know. It just seems like a cool
01:39:28
thing to say. >> But yeah, thanks for uh subscribing. Thanks for hyping if you are still
01:39:36
hyping or able to. We appreciate that. Uh thanks for liking and thanks for uh rating us on whatever podcast app you
01:39:42
choose. We'll be back with you next week in uh that'll be what? Samsung event
01:39:47
first. Yeah. See you see you soon after the Samsung event and then the other event and then the other event after
01:39:52
that where nothing new will be announced. >> No, something from nothing will be new
01:39:56
and >> that's next next week. >> Okay. So nothing new will be announced
01:40:01
from anyone. >> New nothing is in two weeks. Nothing new is next week. >> Amazing. Thank you so much.
01:40:07
>> Yeah. Perfect. >> Wait for produced by Adam and Elsen. Why did that sound so weird?
01:40:12
>> Great sweetie. >> Waveform is produced by Adam Molina and Ellis and partnered with Vox Media
01:40:16
Podcast Network and Entra Music was created by Vain Still. >> Bingo. This is all pure speculation. I'm not
01:40:35
holding any of them in my pockets right now. By the way, these are facts. Are you
01:40:39
>> These are facts. So,