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welcome back people of the internet to another episode of the waveform podcast we're your hosts andrew and i'm marquez
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are you you sound different oh got him got him not for videos stuck with me today nerds marquez is out yeah we've had a pretty crazy week marquez is out david and i
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are coming at you on waveform today yeah but david prime not david blaine david prime david blaine will be coming at us
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in this episode it is true we are going to kick off today's episode with a david blaine the uncut interview from mark
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with marquez he put something on his channel but he has the full one here they sat down for a while while david
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blaine played with cards and told him his whole whole kind of story his fortune yeah you
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were here when he was here right i missed it it looks like very weird there's a lot of weird magic going a lot
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of did you get that uh tattoo on your hand no i did not i got pretty disappointed like 100 dm saying that i
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needed to get that tattooed onto my hand wait can you explain that for the listeners yeah so we were hanging out
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with david blaine and he did not get near me at all he was maybe like five feet away from me the entire time and
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then he told me to open my hand and there was an eight like in marker on my hand after he randomly
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drew an eight out of a deck i don't know i it was pretty i i wasn't here but if anyone thinks that was fake the amount of times i've heard these guys talk about how it happened proves
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to me that it definitely tricked them they were not in on that yeah i'm convinced that he is actually a dark
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wizard okay and that he has a few tricks that he'll just like explain to people so to make it seem like he isn't
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actually he has the sled of hand tricks to make up for that yeah because he never tells his like actually insane
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tricks sure i don't think they're tricks i think it's just like that um we also have pixel watch rumors later apple
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repair program and of course stick to the end trivia question answers we'll be there first off
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we kind of have to mention it um elon musk buying twitter the deal like was approved yeah it's still going through yeah still going through it's a
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broad spectrum of things happening right now there's a lot of stuff going on with it a lot of different sides of it the
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thing about it right now is it's all speculation right like what's gonna happen pretty much i i had to i actually tweeted last week like wow not even
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daily podcasts can keep up with what's going on exactly i i think like if we were to attempt on wednesday to say
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something it would be different it would be it would be different by friday yeah um this is probably already going to be outdated yeah exactly so we'll talk
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about it sometime in the future uh we'll see what happens because a million things could happen or almost nothing
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could happen even if he does buy it so yeah we don't really it could they said that the deal should go through by the end of the year but that's a long time
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yeah it's we're in q2 right now yeah we've got some time okay cool so maybe you'll hear us talk about that next year
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possibly yeah next week right yeah um all right cool so we're gonna hop into the david blaine interview stick around
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it's super super interesting especially if you haven't watched the youtube video yet and we'll be back soon all right david i
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have so many questions for you i guess last time we spoke we were in the middle of the desert in arizona you had just come down from this balloon trip
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from was it twenty thousand feet how how'd you go something crazy i actually went to twenty five thousand twenty five
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thousand which was on my watch but he yelled no no don't pull you after he said go go go and it was really so registered as 24 9
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on there okay but i was at 25 on my watch i was on the ground i could see everybody like talking to you and like
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the whole broadcast set up and that was a fun time you know what threw me for a loop i'm happy it was safe and it was for my daughter and she was there and i
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wanted to keep it happy and fun and all that stuff yeah so the dangerous part of this number is
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really in the training not in the actual stunt itself and the part that i really was concerned
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about was the recovery afterwards obviously which is that's where the whole team was
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around to think about that yeah but i wanted to go higher than anything on earth so mount
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everest was 29 000 feet a little more than 29 072 feet or something like that yeah and i guess because the fa and everybody suddenly thought that i was going to go hypoxic
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because i wasn't doing the proper o2 breathing so suddenly i'm being remote popped down and i can't keep i'm like where come on what's going on i want to keep going so
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anyway but but it was a lot of fun when because they were able to remote pop everything yeah they did as soon as i
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deployed jump down they recovered the entire rig that was a high-tech experiment like i
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got to see the like the aftermath of like so you jump out they've got the remote control and like tracking of this
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huge rig essentially an aircraft it continues to fly they they lower it to the ground
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they recover it like i got to see all that happen yeah i was very impressed with the amount of tech happening even
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though at its core it's you with some balloons which was amazing but if it was just me and the balloons then it would
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have actually been something that i wasn't into because i didn't want to just leave balloons to go float away and
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like destroy the invite you know whatever don't pop in the desert yeah so that's that so the big big team and all
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the work really was on how do we recover the rig how do we bring everything back down which is they remote pop every
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single balloon and then lower it so so so you put that on youtube yeah and one of my favorite things about like i'm
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pretty sure i've found and i'm sure a lot of people watching this have found your magic on youtube somewhere
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and if i look back far enough you're easily one of i don't speak to a lot of people who have been uploading to
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youtube longer than me but you're one of the first people to like blow up on youtube people know david blaine magic
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from yeah it started with youtube so how did you why did you decide to put stuff on youtube because i know my answer but
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like sharing magic i felt like the medium was was changing so i felt like the natural progression and and now it really is now the only way people look at things is on their
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phones which is unfortunate but therefore there's also the fortunate part which is they have lots of access
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to anything that they can think of so you can learn anything from anyone anyone anywhere in the world anytime
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which is really speeding up the process of the learning curve which is amazing but now
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there's youtube instagram uh tick tock which i haven't figured out yet i'm so it's so it's so cool we're on the same page with the exact i think yeah yeah but no no
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but i'm not against any of it because i actually like all of it but it's just i have my brain hasn't understood how to
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do that yet because it's like with youtube it was kind of like magic was perfect because it was like here's a trick here's a reaction boom that's really that that's and that content is
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quick and it's gratifying but then you know it it started to move too like there's no time for anything it has to be like the fastest trick and the fastest reaction couple seconds yeah
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yeah yeah quick hits yep i mean i i remember i've seen a lot of your videos and magic and that was that was actually
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part of the entertaining part was that takes you into a sort of a rabbit hole and you just watch as many as you
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can you can't get enough and the reactions from people when you do a trick to them and blow their mind
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is i think you described it this way it's like this universal language like everyone has the same
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like primal mind-blown reaction to a good trick yeah youtube lets you share that with way
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more people than if it was just one at a time yeah yeah that's right it allows you to
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to reach anybody anywhere in the world which is incredible so now there's a sort of a new chapter
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because i've seen all these i've seen all these tricks and all these incredible things you've done but you've now decided to make a class
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and actually teach magic so i've been reluctant forever to do magic kits or do any of those types of things which is ironic because my mother's a teacher and my brother's a teacher so they're both
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teachers so i always do understand the amazing and important effect that you have by teaching people
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stuff that you're that you worked really hard on but i was still reluctant because magic is such a a confusing area
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because these secrets are so powerful but you don't want to just give them away because that's part of the art itself
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so every time somebody said to me though could you teach me a trick i always feel bad that i can't you know it's like i
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want to of course i want to and often i do teach them something quickly like here i could teach you something but that's not really good enough so the idea of being able to
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create any kind of class that i wanted with studio which is max called me up and he
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was he understood all about magic he did all of his research he could perform magic he also learned how to play chess
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so he could play magnus and he lasted quite a few moves against him and he learned how to memorize a deck so when
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he showed me all these things he said well i'll do whatever you want to make this class something that's incredible
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and amazing yeah i it was it was it was very difficult to say no to that because
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and i know if anybody wants to take the class they're not just going to get the secrets they're going to be they have to actually enroll they have to like commit
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to it it's a month-long class so the idea of a student trying to learn some of the things that were what got me started some of the basic things in
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magic that i love i think that was kind of the inspiration and that's what led me to agree to do
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this yeah yeah and i think uh there's an incredibly high number of people that i could think of right now
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who if i said if you could learn david if you could learn magic from david blaine would you would you take that opportunity i think that i'll say yes
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but it's really hard for you to take that time to teach all of them it's kind of like the same thing you were just saying like
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i want to take the time to talk to everybody about tech but i don't have that amount of time so being able to put out something actually good
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and like that you have control over and that you can really make amazing and share this with as many people as
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possible is that's like 2022 david blaine that's pretty sick it's dope i i also want to ask you like how do you decide what stuff to to share in the class versus what
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stuff you continue to work on and evolve so most of the stuff that i share is actually for
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beginners for people that are you know beginner intermediate people that want to be able to like walk into a situation
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and do some magic and not you know it's i think it's such an amazing art form and it's so
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it's so such a deep dive into psychology it's technical it's math it's science it's
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logic it's all these things combined and there's a philosophy behind it so i feel like the people that you know come come into it
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i feel like they'll have a a a new appreciation for the actual art of magic itself actually i think like you're gonna suddenly realize oh wow when this magician's doing a trick he does it's a
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lot of work it's not just like he's doing this quick trick that has no meaning and it's like oh he learned it
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for three seconds and now he can do it's like oh wow these guys all these magicians out there
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work really hard at their craft and it's special can confirm i mean you're seeing it now but you've taught me a little bit
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i've been working on the tricks i can't even do this every time but you learned it fast wait let me see if i can do one
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right now what is it called again charlie cut yeah he learned it fast is there a person yeah there you go
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yep perfect it's not yeah it's deep no you just did it but you learned it fast but that's the that's the type of the next phase would be like this and the next would be like this these
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are the ones that but these are the ones that i don't go into teaching because these are you know this is
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this is different i do like the those things the evolution of a trick like here's level one here's level two
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here's level three that's that's sick i am also like i think we talked a little bit off
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camera about this but i feel like i learned a lot of how i communicate ideas through making youtube videos like getting creative and like public speaking in a way
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uh i i gave us a talk to some some googlers at this thing and you know i came off stage afterwards and somebody said that was amazing how often do you public speak i was like that's
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the first time i've ever done that but i was really just in like video mode i'm curious like
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does does performing magic sort of have a similar effect for you do you find new ways to
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communicate things does that help you in other parts of life even just developing
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these tricks and working on stuff yeah 100 yeah so the idea of just learning how to
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feel confident enough to go out and actually try something and then it is a performance it is public speaking so
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there's a technical part of it that's really you know difficult that you can master with repetition but then you have to
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learn the other part of it which is how do i go out there and communicate this and that's the part that's the most
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interesting to me because everything is really just a trick but when you apply what your meaning is or why you're doing
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it or who you're doing it to or how you can relate to that person then it becomes something much deeper and much
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more interesting yeah and you've you've done like these tricks to almost any person i
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can name has experienced some sort of incredible magic who's your uh was your favorite reaction you've gotten
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i mean you know there's so many amazing reactions but you mean on somebody like well known or whatever maybe you did a
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trick and you just were like i can't believe this person loved the trick so much i mean i
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i was once at a dinner with a a dear friend of mine and mickey rourke and tupac and you know tupac we were at cafe to back and he was smoking at the table so he's a little buzzed and i start doing
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magic to him and the next thing i know i look over and he's like on the floor laughing like kicking his legs like a
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little kid and that was yeah that was a pretty and he's also tupac you know so that was a pretty exciting
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reaction but there's all kinds of reactions that i get that are amazing and sometimes it's the opposite it might
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just be somebody's completely still like a kid that i did magic to in a barstow and i made a coin disappear off and
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saying it was in my first show i've seen that yeah yeah and he just stood there and he's like cool and that was all and
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i obsessed over him but you know and then i wanted to put that trick on abc and they were like no it's not his
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reaction i was like this is the best thing and then after that i think he got a taco bell commercial or something
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that's an iconic and that's all over youtube that's exactly that's what i'm talking about see and then what was funny was those spoof videos that came
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like not that long ago like 10 years ago or so we had those like david blaine street magic videos
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did you enjoy those you got to watch those as they came out that was some of my favorite videos now that guy mikey
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day has a he got a uh a lead in snl after that that's incredible that's incredible so yeah you know magic these types of things they're all creative i view you
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as a creator basically this is what i'm saying like you you put stuff online you adjust the way you present you you're
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creative in the way you combine things and you're able to to make something new and that it's like amazing and you get to share with people and that's like inspiring for me so i appreciate that thank you yeah who have you not yet
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performed a trick for that you want to that's a good question i mean there's a guy named gregory perlman who i'm obsessed with and he won the fields right he's like a
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mathematician he lives in st petersburg and he's like one of the more famous recluses the other guy would be j.d
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salinger but gregory perlman is like he's unbelievable as a matter of fact he he turned down um the the the the prize
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of a million dollars for solving an impossible conundrum that took him you know once he solved it the math
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community they it took them i think 12 years to even realize that he was right so when they gave him the million dollar
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prize he turned it down and finally a reporter found him they say living in a cockroach infested apartment on his
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mother's floor and they were like how could you turn down a million dollars what's wrong with you like i could eat
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it and he said please don't bother me i'm busy picking mushrooms so that guy would be pretty amazing to
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go through magic i think so i think so we'll try to make it happen through the power of youtube we'll see how long that
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takes but david but hold on i want to say one other thing marquez so so like i said i
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always try to teach people magic yeah right like i'm always like i would the way you are fit with your hands and
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your ability to learn it's it's it's mind-blowing it was a very fast learning curve as you know and i reacted to that
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so it just that was i was very impressed you know and and once again that was part of my excitement in the beginning was just i know you're so athletic you're so smart you're so telling so seeing the immediate
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learning curve was inspiring and then you pulled the stuff off quickly yeah yeah no i i had the best teachers so i
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definitely had a pretty pretty good head start there yeah but you you the way you learned it and the way you pulled it off
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right away we did it to your crew did it over zoom yeah and you improvised and you came up with stuff so that you know
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that that was for me that wasn't that's worth the whole thing right there like watching you learn and
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adjust and and come up with things and it was fun yeah it's fun the improv the improvisation part is the hard part but
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it is a lot of fun yeah but you were like throwing people you're like oh make sure i don't have some special thing so
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i can see through the camera the odds the tech stuff the odds yeah it's all fun it's all fun all right so
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every podcast everyone we have on the podcast right we give them a keyboard yeah and we just say type the alphabet a
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through z wow and i'm slow [Music] is perfect having your name on the leaderboard is gonna be great slow but i'll do it but i don't know but i
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mean like beyond slo we're gonna hunt pack right yeah i've got one for you of course are
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we recording already all right ready go for it all right chiclet style double digit single digit come on man that's fast is it single
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nine seconds that's not fast that's yeah i was getting like 25 seconds [Music] 9.7 is slower than 9.4 9.7 all right
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well you're still single digits which i don't think is the worst thing in the world you have another one enter you want to
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hit it again let's just see i'm not going to see once you start it's addicting ah [Music]
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let me do it again hold on bumped it down a little bit 9.6 hold on sub nine all right i'm keeping my count eight eight two eight eighty two eighty two is my lucky number there you go we
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can say you're lucky with numbers but i think we know at this point you're gonna get a good number anyway well done all right
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appreciate it thanks for coming on we'll catch you guys next time all right welcome back uh looks like
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dark wizardry doesn't really help typing no you know unfortunately some people have better things to do with them
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i spent like an entire summer just like trying to get better at typing i just because i was really into mechanically
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i've already really like 2014 same here i'm sure a lot of people can relate yeah
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definitely yeah do you have a uh let's do a trivia question oh boy so this is your first trivia i mean it's only my
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third trivia question but let's see what adam's got for us so there's a twist today because marquez
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is out david whatever score you get is getting added to marquez's so don't kill me dude
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so you better okay okay okay first question when did tesla release their first car
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okay i think i have an idea i think i have an idea and i'm probably very wrong marquez would have gotten this yeah
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how could you do this that's why i'm gonna listen to this afterwards all right we're gonna hop on a quick ad break and when we get back pixel watch i know you're excited to talk about this
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[Music] all right welcome back we are going to talk about pixel watch something we've definitely never said on this podcast
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before just kidding probably like 30 different times yeah it seems like would you say this is the closest we've gotten to seeing a pixel watch yeah i mean we saw what is allegedly an actual
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pixel watch yeah in the wild and we've this thing has been rumored for as long as i can remember since i started working here i mean i i am pretty sure that after the apple
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watch came out everyone probably started talking about the pixel watch but it's been years now since the first render
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started leaking and like there were rumors it was going to ship with the pixel 6 and then it didn't and
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now there are rumors that it might ship with pixel 7 but we might see rumors of it
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or uh we might see like a intro to it at i o okay that would be interesting so what
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was that i o last year where they talked about like the partnership with tizen is that why like samsung stuff
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thanks it was where they were like outside and it was eerily quiet yeah because of code yeah yeah well they also shut down uh the air
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traffic over mountain view that was definitely when they talked about their partnership so that was kind of to me that made it feel like maybe i should
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stop thinking about pixel watch because it made it seem like they gave up and they're just like let's work with samsung instead yeah yeah i mean they
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kind of the funny thing is like tizen is quote-unquote dead but they sort of made tizen into wear os
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okay and tyson was a lot better optimized than wear os like wear os generally was just kind of laggy but so
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it looks like wear os but it has like a lot of ties and features okay anyway um wear os is very different now than it
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used to be yeah yeah um but like you said we saw one yeah sort of or we think we saw one okay it's kind of the classic
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the old iphone left at a bar there's this wacky story that happened um where this guy basically left a pixel watch prototype at a restaurant
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so the story goes that this guy's friend works at the restaurant and he found the pixel watch and he apparently held on to it for a couple of weeks but nobody came got came back to
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claim it yeah so then he gave it to his friend who is apparently like self-proclaimed tech nerd yeah i think
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that's what he called himself yeah online and then he posted about it on on reddit and it got pretty big it got
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pretty big and then obviously everybody there's a million articles about it because wearables are hot yeah yeah yeah
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especially pixel watch he posted a bunch of photos of his like wrist with it on and all these things i think the
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craziest part about it is that it looks pretty much like all of the renders that we have been seeing for literally years
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yeah it it does look very similar to some of them some of the most recent renders we've seen
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since google acquired fitbit had that very like fitbit rounded like really domed rounded edge on it i think
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it looks so much like the louis vuitton like the louis vuitton watch it's like super domed and they actually do a kind of cool thing where it like bleeds to the edges and you can see it from the sides but isn't there a picture like of
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the bezel there's no thick bezel on this thing so i don't think it's going to do that yeah
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yeah there were some linked renders that may or may not be real again like everything that's leaked is speculation
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yeah um but some photos from like a powerpoint presentation that said like almost bezel-less design but then you look at the photos that the guy took photos of
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very not bezel-less yeah and so it might be a touch-sensitive um ring though like ring on the outside that would be really cool have we seen that i think the galaxy watch for
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non-classic has a digital ring okay that's really cool could be wrong i think so we'll double check that yeah um
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but so all right he found it at a bar yeah gave it to this guy yeah it does not turn off correct so he
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tried to boot it and it shows a google logo yeah and that's why it's pretty much like oh this is like a pixel watch prototype okay and there's also like pins on the side that probably will not
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be in the final design so it's almost definitely like a internal version and it had a box too
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and the box was like this product has not been certified with the fcc and like all of this someone left the box at the
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bar yeah it was like with the whole thing and on reddit everyone was like this is definitely a plan leak and ah
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i don't know so i don't think so but i definitely there's a storyline i could see where this would be planned and my
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biggest speculation there is how he like he posted it and then he's like oh yeah my friend forgot to give me the bands to
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it and then made a whole second post of it like then on his wrist yeah i mean i i think this guy is is
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telling the truth i think it's legit yeah whether or not somebody like intentionally left it at a bar and then
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didn't come back for it like if you if you leave something like that at a bar you should probably be looking
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for it yeah um why bring it in the first place yeah yeah you should probably be checking leave it in your car don't bring it in a restaurant why would you bring in a restaurant that's so strange it's there's miners
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skeptical yeah there but uh anyway yeah he tried to boot it it showed the google logo and wouldn't get past that so
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people are thinking that it has doesn't even have an os on it right now okay um but then it died and there was no
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charger with it so he had no way to like recharge it to try to get to the logo again and all that stuff
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um but yeah like his friend did have separate bands that were in another box that were in a separate box and it looks
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like it's a proprietary band system just like the apple watch okay um which is like good and bad i don't know
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how much support for bands google is gonna have that's sort of the thing with the apple watch is that like they
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release new bands all the time yeah and i hope the third party ecosystem of bands would get good on the pixel watch
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because the apple watch third party bands there's so many people make them on etsy exactly and they're all really
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good and you can get really good ones for really cheap yeah so we've talked about it before i was using a braided loop from etsy and it's fantastic where
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funny enough i got a different band for the garmin watch i'm wearing right now that was third party from etsy and i was like reaching down
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to top my shoe and it just this right now is the normal one it just fell off because garmin has these little
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connector pins that i don't think are great and when you're third party making that it just bent and just pulled the
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whole band off so yeah i was i was thinking that like third party bands are awesome there's a million of them
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but when you're apple and you have that sales number they can like way more people are gonna
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make those and you can find better ones where then you're looking for third party and for whatever reason every first party band feels like it costs an
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arm and a lot yeah yeah yeah yeah it hurts to like spend 80 bucks on it dudes they're so expensive it's crazy the nice apple
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watch ones are a hundred dollars for like and you can get almost this exact same quality on amazon or like on etsy for
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like 20 bucks and it's really a bummer it's great to do that because like you're wearing a watch all the time you know switch it up every once in a while
00:28:26
exactly that's like the fun thing it's also a great gift if you have a friend with an apple watch an app watch band is
00:28:31
like one of the best true true true yeah i think people have been wanting a pixel watch for so long because the
00:28:37
apple watch has been so dominant there have not been like a ton of great android wear well wear os smart watches
00:28:46
the uh samsung galaxy watch four is definitely pretty good and probably up there for like one of the best
00:28:51
alternatives if you want a wear os watch so considering google partnered so intensely with samsung on the new wear os and then apparently on this pixel watch
00:29:02
that's going to be a big deal the rumors are actually that it's going to be running an exynos chipset okay which is good news in my opinion um
00:29:10
because most of the snapdragon wear chipsets in the snapdragon ones just have terrible battery life bad like
00:29:17
performance they've never been great they went a super long time between the first generation the second generation
00:29:23
chip and then the second generation chip wasn't that much better and it was just like oh it was such a mess
00:29:28
um but considering the galaxy watch four has pretty darn good performance and decent battery life lasts a little over
00:29:34
a day i mean it would be nice that's better quick question there what would you say is an ideal watch battery life i mean
00:29:41
ideal for a smart watch i would love at least two days but the apple watch right now is like a day and a quarter yeah and i think that's about what the galaxy watch for is as well okay i i
00:29:54
like go back and forth on what i think is good so i've been trying this garmin for a month i mean those last four it's insane like
00:30:00
working out in one week or i i had an eight day battery life on this for a week and that's with like
00:30:06
four or five of those days with at least an hour of working out and tracking which i thought was incredible yeah but at the same time it's too clunky i don't
00:30:14
wear it to bed so like why do i care that much so it's nice i had two days feels like perfect to me you can forget
00:30:21
of charging it and be okay you know what's always been weird for me is the apple watch like it has all these sleep tracking features but i
00:30:28
would never wear it to sleep i i was i need to charge it at nighttime because it's almost dead by the evening
00:30:34
true i also and i don't know if this is only me if you put your arm under your pillow and you're wearing a watch like
00:30:40
ever i hate it it'll like wake me up because it gets stuck on the pillow like sliding your arm under it or so that's
00:30:46
why i feel like i can't i didn't like my apple watch you're typing with a ring on or a watch on something yeah weird but
00:30:52
yeah but i think everyone's just been like really wanting google to have prosperity like ecosystem parody with
00:30:58
apple and there's the pixel buds but they're pretty buggy there's no pixel watch
00:31:05
and they have chromebooks so like right now they don't really have device parity but if they can get a watch out
00:31:12
hopefully they'll get closer it's just that apple's had almost eight generations to improve before google
00:31:18
even released one for sure i mean it was the big talking point also with google doing its own chip in the pixel this year which was like you know everyone
00:31:25
always says apple's got their ecosystem because they're making their own stuff so now google's making it are we going to get there so it
00:31:31
it tracks on to there you know you did say they do have their chromebooks and there is some
00:31:36
minor connectivity like this yeah so hopefully pixel buds could get better but pixel watch feels like the big yeah
00:31:44
like devices and wearables are really hot so yeah but i think a lot of people the reason people a lot of people say they're staying on iphone is like imessage and the apple watch
00:31:55
like so many people get attached to the apple watch because it gamifies fitness in such a good way yep um yeah so
00:32:01
apparently there was a reference to the pixel watch in a recent pixel update that 95 google found it is codenamed
00:32:08
rohan which could mean a couple of different things one it is the fictional kingdom of men in middle earth okay in tolkien's world interesting um and then
00:32:19
it is also in japanese it means accompanying do these are just things i found on
00:32:25
wikipedia and so i was like because there's multiple like possibilities of what it could mean but these are the
00:32:30
only two things that sound feasible and how i accompanying do would be like oh it comes with you and it's sticky so it like sticks to you like it's it's accompanying your i don't know this is
00:32:42
like i like no no i like it i like it i don't know i'm like totally guessing i mean you're talking about a bunch of like software developers and stuff that
00:32:49
make some crazy code yeah so that wouldn't be i wouldn't be surprised yeah all the pixels are always like marlin
00:32:55
and like they're all fish they are a lot of fish shamu yeah um but otherwise you have rohan lord of
00:33:02
the rings i don't know uh but yeah anyway they might be showing it off at i o and then releasing it with the pixel
00:33:07
seven that's like the current rumor i don't know if that's gonna be the case but considering they like already had a
00:33:13
hardware unit in the wild it's probably pretty close to them yeah i think that sounds totally plausible especially with
00:33:19
talking about watch stuff last google ido and then were google i o s two months away uh coming up pretty quick actually really soon okay i think it's been a couple weeks so we might see
00:33:30
it pretty soon yeah yeah so that'd be dope if we saw it soon okay ideal pic what right now
00:33:37
in this new pixel watch what would be like a key feature that would make you super excited for it and and like we are
00:33:42
also you know this has been rumored for so long the it will never live up to the hype right i think we can agree with
00:33:48
that we've been talking about this for how long i think that's most pixels to be honest that's like this year it's going to be the year but
00:33:55
you think you'll be the best you have five years of nothing pretty much of like first generation everything is so
00:34:01
clunky though it's gonna be tough but like what's something that would look really promising on this to
00:34:06
you i they need to match apple in terms of like the fitness stuff that i think that's gonna be what keeps people in it and with google fit already yeah and they've got a head start on
00:34:19
google has done a pretty good job of making their fitness stuff more robust like they had this whole campaign like
00:34:25
get fit with google either last year the year before i think it was 2020 actually i think it was two years and they revamped google fit and it's nicer now i
00:34:33
don't think they have t they might have team stuff um i don't know there are a few because i'm using a weird thing
00:34:39
right now or google fit works in the challenges app that we use we have found it's a little clunky but that's
00:34:45
challenges that's not google fit um but there are a lot of ways to connect things to google fit yeah which is kind of awesome i think that they they're
00:34:51
gonna need they're going to need ways to compete against your friends and they're going if they added group competition
00:34:58
yeah take one step up that would be one step up on apple so um and maybe force apple to add it but yeah i don't know the design right now is i know a lot of people like round smart watches so that's good uh but that
00:35:10
bezel is very thick it looks thick it looks tall which is usually a gripe of mine yeah on watches
00:35:16
i like like it thin i don't like it to be huge and clunky i think watch him screaming internally because he has like the
00:35:22
tallest watch ever this is a cool watch though that's not like a nerdy smart watch
00:35:28
mr wonderful told marquez these watches are all 20 off retail or something like that he's a not a big smartwatch fan yeah he said that when he walks into a room and someone's wearing an apple watch it
00:35:39
tells him that they're 20 off retail like whatever deal you're about to get you can get for 20 cheaper because they're wearing an apple watch oh wow
00:35:47
interesting yeah okay it's watch snobs don't love smartwatch yeah i think it's the safe bet there yeah um but yeah yeah
00:35:55
exciting so you think we might see something about this possibly in may yeah i mean that's that's the rumor oh
00:36:01
they're gonna do that i'll burn you at the stage literally that's just all it that's what it that's the rumor i don't i'm just
00:36:08
retelling i get no no i'm telling you i think this is fun we've had as much as we've talked about pixel watch we've had
00:36:15
twice as many opportunities because there are renders all the time like we've said this is the closest thing we've gotten to actual feeling like it's
00:36:21
there seeing a thing actually in the wild is like this is definitely coming up it also and it just has that fun old
00:36:28
tech news nostalgia feel of the iphone being left like we don't get that very often it's usually leaking themselves so yeah if
00:36:35
this was planned out it was brilliantly planned yeah and i'm all here there was a funny reddit comment someone was like
00:36:40
oh this was definitely left at a bar and someone was like isn't it weird that someone knew what it was like they
00:36:48
it seems like they would have left it and no one would have known what it was and they would have just like thrown it away or something and then someone said
00:36:53
like this is probably the 25th one they've left just hoping there's some nerd watching
00:36:59
and found boxing yeah totally i'm excited for what the next thing will be able to fall out of
00:37:05
sundar's pocket while he's doing while he's doing io maybe that's how it will announce it he'll just be wearing it
00:37:10
yeah just wear it no don't say sex i could see hiroshi doing that yeah roshi was like using her she was using a galaxy fold like during the period where they had to
00:37:23
where everyone needed to return theirs he just kept using it and like he's the best yeah he's just been using a fold
00:37:29
forever that's amazing yeah so in a way this is kind of giving me like moto 360 vives because in a way the moto 360 was sort of the original pixel watch the flat tire it was the first well it
00:37:40
wasn't the first android wear smart watch uh because there was the lg g watch that came out i had that i loved
00:37:46
it it was so ugly it was like square and had huge bezels but then the yeah the moto 360 came out i remember and it had the flat tire of course but that was such an attractive smart watch it
00:37:59
was so nice i think i bought 10 of them really um which yeah that was way back in the day when i was a poor college
00:38:05
student and had no money that definitely tracks buying i'm gonna sell them to all my friends
00:38:11
so i yeah i like stayed up until 2 a.m and like ordered a bunch and then sold them to all my friends and we all just
00:38:16
like were the only ones wearing smart watches because it was like one of the first smart watches you guys are probably the coolest kids on campus you
00:38:23
could say that yeah yeah you could say that yeah uh but yeah i mean that was such an incredible smartwatch and in my opinion
00:38:30
at a much nicer design than this and that was like what 2013. i think that was 2013. possibly 2014 max it was it
00:38:38
was a long time ago they've had a few iterations since then but they haven't quite gotten they had the second gen
00:38:43
that was a little nicer and then the third gen was made by a completely different person yeah they just took the they like sold them the brand name or
00:38:50
something and then someone else made it and apparently it was decent but we still think someone else we never tried
00:38:56
it we just never had time to maybe i'll give it a shot i never reminded the flat tire thing and that was like the peak
00:39:02
days of facer do you remember facer i do not uh it was this app that you could use to like design your own android faces cool and it was like this whole
00:39:12
thing i made all these ridiculous android wear faces that's that was back when people were making like fallout
00:39:18
faces yeah everything right yeah yeah yeah they got the boy with like the arm that would tick yeah by the way it was
00:39:24
2014. okay yeah because i was a freshman in college but it must have been after christmas i guess
00:39:31
i just remembered that io oh yeah it was i o i remember the i o and i was like that was the most stoked i've been about
00:39:37
anything that might have also been the i o where they announced google glass they did a little better yeah that's true that's true but anyway i i hope to get as much hype from
00:39:51
this physical device as the moto 360 but i still think the modis 360 had a superior design even with the flat tire even i mean yeah that's just nostalgic at this point yeah
00:40:02
it's fun so um trivia question oh right you're ready for number two yeah yeah just they kind of sneak up on you once you you guys we're getting the second one and we answer at the very end
00:40:12
yeah okay okay trivia question number two andrew does not use chrome or safari he
00:40:19
uses mozilla firefox what was it originally named oh yep it was not originally called fireball nope wow i used to live like right down
00:40:31
the street from firefox really yeah and they were definitely mozilla save this discussion for the end please oh sorry okay we're gonna take a quick break yeah and uh we'll ponder this a
00:40:43
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00:40:56
now we're going to talk about the apple repair kit yeah we talked about repair kits like two or
00:41:02
three weeks ago and specifically mentioned apple announcement just kind of i think they announced it in november
00:41:08
september of november yeah we're in april now this will come out almost in may i just remember that a couple of
00:41:14
weeks ago um i was with brandon and he like broke the back of his iphone and we went to the apple store together and he brought it up to the employee there he was like
00:41:26
so what about that self fixing apple repair like program and they were like i have no idea what you're talking about
00:41:32
so we came back to the studio and we were like wait wasn't that supposed to be a thing and people gave them like a ton of props for like aiding right to
00:41:39
repair and all this thing yeah i'm pretty sure we're all eager to give them credit for any right to repair just
00:41:45
because we want it to actually happen but but it did release this week this week um it's so it's finally here this is after
00:41:53
samsung and google both just released a partnership with ifixit and i believe also like valve and microsoft for doing
00:41:58
stuff as well it seems like repairability is becoming a thing and i do think a lot of it has to do with
00:42:03
potential repairability scores coming in in other countries and hopefully to the us
00:42:08
um but so they announced it they have when you go to their website there's now a
00:42:14
self a self repair link i guess that leads you to you read the manual first then
00:42:19
you can order the parts it's all pretty i want to say straightforward repairing stuff is never straightforward is not an easy task um it's completely did you get a chance to look at any of it i did look at the
00:42:32
manuals um they're pretty well designed manuals uh but i think the one thing that people
00:42:37
are pointing out is that it's you're only saving a little bit of money if you do it yourself so for a battery it's 60
00:42:45
to just get a replacement battery at apple and if you buy the battery repair kit it's like 59
00:42:51
but if you send your old battery back they give you like a 20 discount or something now is that is it 50
00:42:57
dollars for the battery because it's 60 60. so it's like 49 for the rental stuff
00:43:02
right um do you need the rental stuff oh maybe not for a battery maybe yeah i'm mistaken i don't know if you need that
00:43:08
they have like a kit you can get though for the battery for everything yeah for everything open it up some of the things
00:43:15
on there are super intense yeah there's like a whole press for the screen for the screen and
00:43:21
there's the one there's a different one to take the screen off it looks like it's like two feet by two feet by two feet big thing
00:43:27
that would have to go on your desk and it basically is it like warms the screen up suction cups it and then pulls it off
00:43:34
i imagine that it's probably for repair centers that are not like official apple places that want to do it for other
00:43:41
people that's what i thought but there is a part in their newsroom article that says um the rental kits will ship to
00:43:47
customers for free so the fact that they're putting the term customers in there and it also says apple tools available
00:43:53
to customers on self-service repair store are the same that are used by apple repair network wow
00:43:58
situations yeah can you imagine just being like i want to save like 20 bucks i feel like the shipping on that is
00:44:04
going to cost apple more than 20 bucks it feels kind of ridiculous yeah and if we want to jump back to what you said
00:44:11
about price we were sort of talking about this right before the podcast started it seems like this is sort of a
00:44:16
reason a way for apple to say like hey we will technically let you do this yourself and you will save money but the delta is like twenty dollars yeah which
00:44:27
i think and we don't that's if you send your old part back if you send it back i think we agreed i think mark has agreed
00:44:33
with us and i saw a bunch of comments on reddit is like you're saving 20 to 30 which seems totally reasonable for labor
00:44:39
for someone else that's insanely cheap for labor especially for something that's like a little difficult and you
00:44:46
could potentially break your device yeah that's why most repair shops are like a hundred dollars because if they break
00:44:52
the part they have to buy another one and then the time it just the time it takes like that's good exactly probably
00:44:57
an hour and you should be really careful and just if you go to a store you might be able
00:45:03
to have it the same day and most of us don't have a backup phone or like or the time to wait for first like a press a
00:45:11
screen press to ship to you and then learn how to do that i mean if you're able to use that press
00:45:18
to fix other people's devices is that the case or do you have to send it back within a specific i don't know there also was a
00:45:25
on the site a part that just showed the flat out price for some of those i believe they're like two to three hundred dollars which that was
00:45:32
so i'm wondering if they're also doing that to help potentially stores who are non-apple authorized stores people like
00:45:38
lewis rossman and stuff like that to have some of the genuine parts um i'm gonna have to listen
00:45:45
thing to see that's his thinks because he's a guy that's actually repairing apple's stuff yeah we should probably try and get him on yeah sometimes yeah
00:45:52
see what he thinks about this um so all of that felt kind of strange and almost unneces not unnecessary but it feels like the harder thing to do you have to go get it fixed right yeah um
00:46:02
my initial thought on this was if we do see repair repairability scores or they're in other places this is going to
00:46:09
automatically make their score better right it's going to make their number on that score better which will look better to selling it this is true like we
00:46:16
talked about on the right to repair deep dive episode like countries like france yeah will have full repairability scores
00:46:23
that are like put on the boxes of things and on the websites as well like right next to the buy button um and there was
00:46:29
a study that showed a very large amount of people if a phone were the same price or even slightly different they would
00:46:35
pick the one with the better score yeah even if they've been using a device yeah but it's kind of like a review in a way right and it gives you that peace of
00:46:41
mind that you're going to be able to exactly fix it so it only goes back to the iphone 12 yeah
00:46:47
right now i'm guessing that's just because it was last generation and they maybe don't have i don't know what
00:46:52
they're doing with all the parts of the old old stuff so i'm hoping you know when the iphone 16 is out they still have repairability
00:46:58
for iphone 12. we don't know that right now yeah i mean if you bought like applecare is what three years
00:47:05
i don't know i've never had a knife i believe applecare lasts three years i need to double check that but i thought
00:47:11
it was two i'll double check now right but but i'm pretty sure apple probably has parts for
00:47:16
iphone 11s they still sell iphone 11s which means they almost definitely have parts so i think they'll you'll probably
00:47:22
see being able to order iphone 12 stuff for a while just right now it's only two generations because it's a new whole new
00:47:29
program and everything no david's correct three years yeah three years well if it's three years like if they can repair your iphone 11 you should
00:47:35
probably be able to as well and yeah that feels a little cd because it's kind of like well if people have iphone 11s
00:47:42
and they break they should pro they're they're like trying to get you to upgrade to an iphone 13 or 14. yeah you know it's going to be the
00:47:48
people with the 11s and with the 10s that are gonna start needing fixing or just to get a new phone and
00:47:54
they want you to get i would venture that would be their their reasoning for that is if you're on a four-year-old phone it's like oh you're probably
00:48:00
thinking of upgrading soon already if you're on a brand new 13 you're probably like i want to get this fixed i just got
00:48:05
this phone um whether that's the right reason of thinking or not i think it would be really fun we'll
00:48:11
we'll see if we can make this happen but it'd be really fun for us to try to repair 100 percent wanted yeah with apple products i want to try it with
00:48:17
google and samsung i want to see what all of them are like um and what all these kits are like all of this said and
00:48:22
done though i mean the fact that you can yes is good we we might be ripping this
00:48:28
apart but the fact that apple is taking a step i think a lot of people are gonna be super pumped about just the manuals being out
00:48:34
because that's been a huge thing lewis rossman's talking about i think mostly with macbooks and we don't see that right now but just seeing manuals of
00:48:41
internals of things is i think a good step yeah um and i don't think a lot of people thought that was
00:48:47
ever going to happen yeah especially with apple right especially with that yeah yeah yeah so all in all really cool
00:48:53
like you said we should definitely do like a video i want to try it really bad i really want to try it and i want to
00:48:59
see what if they actually ship those giant presses or whatever yeah yeah yeah but that sounds really cool and we'll
00:49:05
see how it goes in the future um yeah i'm kind of itching to uh the trivia answers the itching you're making me yeah feel now took a pre-workout before
00:49:18
an accidental pre-workout before the podcast so he's ready to go you better get both these answers right
00:49:23
with and rip the microphone off the table as you do it i'm gonna get these so wrong all right the first question okay
00:49:31
when did tesla release its first car what do you guys think can i give two answers
00:49:36
no dude pod master adam here has a strict rulebook i have a guess do you want me to go first or i'm gonna go first cool my original
00:49:47
like the first thing that came to mind in my head was 2009 don't know if that's too early so my second guess was going to be 2011 but because we can only have one guess i
00:49:58
will go with 2009 and it's going to be wrong it's probably going to be 2011. but anyway my roadster right
00:50:04
the original lotus yeah so that lotus has been around for so long it has been around for a bit yeah my guess is 2012. um oh right i guess i also don't know
00:50:16
did you say this is like when it started selling or when it was announced or it doesn't change my answers but i think 2012 is when i remember but
00:50:27
i might also be wrong that might be model s that original lotus one was in such short supply
00:50:34
didn't they only make like 50 of them or something i think it was more than 50 but there's not a lot um so like the way
00:50:39
i kind of think about it is i first met marquez playing ultima in 2013 and he was really excited to test drive a model
00:50:46
s then a model s oh so 2012 is probably too late yeah i'm gonna stick with it because my 2009 answer
00:50:52
might be it might the answer 2008. oh my gosh good guess does that make me right no no that was one year off
00:51:05
still off that was on pod he usually gives you one or one in one year either way but um oh
00:51:11
this isn't podcast this isn't pod quiz baby this is wave four bing well it's okay it's not yours
00:51:17
it's marquez's points yeah it's marquez's point tonight yours so it's fine he definitely okay whatever what i
00:51:23
keep if you're listening if you're listening to this i think i should have gotten those points for you
00:51:28
but okay all right next one oh no this next one oh yeah i don't think there's no no i have to give you guys a hard one
00:51:34
can you give me an easier one mozilla firefox was originally named what i'm just gonna say it was named just mozilla mozilla i've always said mozilla
00:51:47
i think it's mozilla oh i don't know modzilla mostly moses mr podmaster i only read this i lived down the street
00:51:53
from mozilla for like three years but it always they always had the firefox logo out there
00:51:59
i would also wager it was just mozilla all right the correct answer oh no it's gonna be like
00:52:05
turtle or something mozilla i guess phoenix enix it's first name originally was mozilla phoenix with a ph or with an interstate ph i wanna see like the logo for that yeah
00:52:19
i wonder why they decided to do a fox oh their old logo is so bad oh my god we'll show it on the screen for anyone listen there it's like it oh my how do i even describe this it looks like clip
00:52:32
art yeah it looks like a duck that's on fire like a swan with its wings out yeah
00:52:38
that's on fire like a swan that's trying to intimidate you that's on fire but in like really bad microsoft word clip art
00:52:45
i mean it looks like pretty web one point yeah these old ones um yeah yeah new firefox logo much much better very
00:52:52
good great logo actually yes i use edge here's do you really on my phone on your phone is the edge on my phone that's even weirder
00:53:02
yeah i mean i don't judge people's browsers on phones i feel like yeah i'm sure there's a lot of people who are very
00:53:08
dedicated to what they have i'm not that dedicated i just want to ruin my life so i use edge on my phone safari on my
00:53:14
laptop and chrome on my windows computer so i just don't want any of my masochists
00:53:26
all right that was a fun episode thank you for filling in for us we appreciate it i hope everyone had a good time um i
00:53:32
think that was a fun episode and uh catch you all in the next one goodbye friends
00:53:39
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